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B
B
B
Thank
you
so
so
so
welcome
to
the
13th
quarter.
Call
we
don't
have
too
much
on
identity.
We
have
follow-up
on
better
pull
request
process
and
then
we
have
Pedro
with
state
of
and
then
I
guess
it's
that
before
we
get
started.
Is
there
something
else
that
someone
wants
to
talk
about?
I'm
gonna?
Add
to
that
Jen
that
we
can
do
it
right
now.
B
D
So,
in
my
part,
I'm
I'm,
researching
on,
because
we
have
this
price
that
dilemma.
We
have
a
lot
of
controller
actions
in
the
sticker
market,
contract
and
I'm
studying
and
trying
to
develop
smart
contract
that
can
control
this
in
a
democratic
way.
Because,
right
now
we
had
devoting
the
app
to
ask
people.
What
what
would
be
the
price
am
idea
would
be
that
instead
of
voting,
what
would
be
the
price?
The
people
votes
directly?
What?
D
C
A
Isn't
much
just
may
be
mentioned
that
the
touchpad
the
non-native
touchpad
is
in
the
designs
is
also
implemented
for
a
keycard,
so
now
we
have
to
implementation
of
it.
So
if
there
is
a
new
design
that
has
a
numpad,
then
please
check
the
one
for
used
for
tribute
to
talk
or
keycard
and
don't
do
a
third
one
at
some
point
we
should
merge
them.
E
Another
thing
on
tribute
to
talk
Barry
in
doing
some
of
the
token
economy,
modeling
stuff,
and
we
kind
of
realized
that,
as
tribute
stalk,
is
currently
implemented.
It's
very
transactional.
So
in
these
models
you
have
to
assume
as
soon
as
it's
not
locked
up
like
state
door
or
otherwise
asks.
If
you
have
to
assume
it's
into
another
token,
so
then
there
might
actually
better
way
to
slightly
readjust.
E
So
you
would
only
would
draw
your
SNT
from
somebody
at
the
at
the
end
of
a
relationship
or
I
can
at
the
time
of
blocking
them,
which
might
be
a
bit
more
beneficial
as
a
sort
of
anti-spam
measure,
and
it's
certainly
more
beneficial
in
terms
of
like
locking
out
more
more
tokens
in
the
network,
because
you're
essentially
moving
from
like
a
transaction
that
might
take
a
matter
of
seconds
to
to
add
a
lesser
to
the
length
of
human
relationships
which
could
be
some
months
if
not
years.
So
so,
there's
definitely
something
to
think
about.
E
D
Think
this
is
what
you
described.
It
looks
like
visibility
steak,
but
for
our
previous
conversation,
III
think
that
that
the
current
model-
it's
it's
good
in
the
way
of
spam,
spam
prevention-
it
might
have
some
overhead
like
present,
because
you
need
is
marked
from
SUNY
to
process
the
message,
even
if
the
brachot
they
are
just
not
going
to
show,
but
what
you
described
it.
D
It's
mostly
like
visibility
staking
and
I
was
thinking
for
something
like
this
for
the
public
chats
as
well
the
governance,
the
democracy
would
be
able
to
maybe
vote
moderators
or
something
like
that
for
these
public
shots
to
slash
this
opposed
and
I'm,
not
sure,
because
we
have
this
to
boot,
to
talk
the
conversation
about
private
conversations
about
group
conversations
in
and
we
also
have
for
the
the
public
sheds.
I,
don't
know
it
is
the
correct
name.
Is
three
budget
talk,
and
also
there
is
something
in
there
I
want
to
bring
on.
D
Is
that
tribute
you
talk,
should
replace
patron
right
now
there
is
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
internet
in
YouTube
the
content
creators
are
getting
mad
about
patron,
burning
people
with
political
bias
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
stages
to
to
build
something
that
is
not
censorship,
not
able
to
be
censored.
So
so
there
is
this
other
version
of
the
tribute
to
top.
That
would
be
something
like
patreon.
So
there
is
this
visibility
stake
way
and
also
this
patron
way
that
you
need
to
pay
every
every
month.
D
Maybe
that
depends
on
the
crane
content
creator
configuration
but
I
guess
every
month
you
would
need
to
pay.
There
is
a
little
bit
problem
on
this
content.
Creator
approach
is
that
we
would
be
using
a
sanity,
and
this
is
there
is
some
volatility
on
this,
and
maybe
the
content
creators
would
not
want
it.
D
So
we
might
want
you
to
to
further
think
about
if
you
really
use
acidity
for
that,
but
I
guess
yes
use
a
sanity,
but
if
the
content
greater
one's
a
stable
coin,
he
can
convert
it
like
immediately,
but
the
payment
is
done
in
S&T,
yes,
so
that
that
was
what
I'm
thinking
about
tribute
all
right
now
we
are
we're
developing
this
first
version
of
the
turbo
to
talk.
That
is
only
for
spawn
spawn
privation
and
I'm
excited
to
go
to
this.
D
D
So
that
star
I'm,
also
working
on
this
and
I
developed
this
ranking
system,
that
is
a
contract
and
another
contract
that
feeds
this
ranking
with
the
subscriptions
of
the
users
%
o
DD
apps
I'm,
building
this
more
generic
to
be
able
to
be
used
for
the
sticker
markets
as
well.
But
today
there
is
this
discussion
on
this
curve
or
how
it
it
would
work.
So
the
the
curve
is
a
boning
curve
only
for
selling
it's
only
for
don't--don't
voting,
sorry
yeah,
but
but
yeah.
It's
not
really
clear
for
me,
so
why
this
is.
A
B
A
B
B
B
It
would
be
yeah
if
you
want
to
join
their
cause,
that
we
could
talk
about
that
more
in
detail,
but
but
yes-
and
that
was
a
deliberate
choice
because
we
don't
want
to
be
tied
down
to
whisper.
It
comes
these
things,
but
we
can
definitely
talk
about
other
method
and
so
on.
It
would
be
best
to
do
it
in
the
in
this
one
cause
I
think
probably.
B
Like
this,
so
we
at
this
point
just
when
I
get
free
sort
of
updates
and
then
people
can
let
everybody
cuz.
We
have
35
people
on
the
call,
and
then
we
have
this
or
two
two
points
in
the
agenda.
We
can
add
some
more
stuff
to
agenda
or
we
can
talk
about
in
specifics,
forms
as
well.
Have
it
sort
of
maximally
useful
for
as
many
people
as
possible?
Okay,
so
core
improvements
and
open
core
here.
B
D
So,
regarding
the
Dow,
it
was
already
talking
about
that
in
the
sticker
market
and
my
research
currently
on
topic,
democracy
was
I'm,
currently
changing
the
idea
of
topical
democracy
to
instead
of
have
civics
having
subtopics,
you
have
soup
democracies
because
that's
kind
of
more
secure.
The
problem
is
that,
if
I
want
to,
for
example,
I
create
this
sticker,
there
is
this
democracy
running,
and
there
is
this
sticker
market.
That
is
a
new
contract
that
would
have
new
actions
to
be
done
by
the
democracy
and
to
include
these
actions.
D
I
would
need
to
pass
a
quorum
to
be
able
to
create
these
topics,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
that.
I
am
making
it
in
a
way
that
I
can
just
create
a
new
democracy
just
for
sticker
markets,
and
that
would
have
a
parents,
democracy
that
would
be
desire
already
running
democracy,
that
people
would
maybe
vote
or
in
this
higher
democracy
or
in
this
lower
democracy
that
have
a
different
forum
that
if,
for
example,
because
if
you
want
to
maybe.
D
Change
some
property.
You
don't
want
to
reach
the
qualified
quorum
like
like
the
absolute
majority
of
influence.
So
that's
my
my
current
take
on
that
and
yeah,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
improve
improvements
in
the
proposal
system
like
I
can
create
these
proposals.
We
fought
in
democracy
just
just
for
for
testing
so
that
that's
that's
it
for
it.
For
democracy,.
B
B
All
right
cool,
so
first
one
is
round
following
up
one
on
better
pull
request
process.
So
we
had
a
this
is
mostly
relevant
for
status,
call
South
score.
We
essentially
had
QA
Deb's
design
and
so
on
and
tried
to
figure
so
the
major
pain
points
we
have
and
then
try
to
figure
out
things
that
are
relevant
in
a
short
term
and
long
term.
So
specific
on
this
list
is
rough.
There's
a
document
linked
to
it.
B
For
a
PR
that
only
make
changes
to
say,
test
branch,
those
are
specific
ones,
and
then
we
had
things
everyone
to
look
into
more
long-term,
which
were
integration,
tests,
headless
test
which
Andrea's
looking
into
and
address
RS
automated
tests
and
supporting
more
platforms
which
antennas
talking
to
I
guess
do
people
have
something
that
were
part
of
this
call
or
not
part,
is
called
add
something
to
this
or
any
questions
or
thoughts.
We
can
talk
about
it
now.
A
C
My
only
concern
is
the
first
point
where
we
have
tests.
Hopefully
it's
easy
enough.
You
know
like
I'm,
not
the
closures
developers
I've
been
able
to
contribute
to
the
to
the
closure
code
bastes,
but
yeah
I'll
have
to
look
into
how
tests
are
written.
It's
not
something
I've
yet
put
much
thought
into.
B
C
Like
the
important
thing
is
to
have
a
good
reference
of
existing
tests
like
there's
a
single
way
that
tests
are
implemented,
that's
the
best
way
to
do
it,
and
we
can
just
use
that
as
a
reference.
That's
good
if
we
don't
have
like
two
or
three
ways,
and
only
one
of
them
is
the
correct
way.
That's
the
most
important.
B
Cool
on
that
I
imagine,
it
will
be
sort
of
basic
unit
test,
indents
or
whatever
integration
tests
that
and
we
are
looking
into
and
then
I
guess.
The
third
level
will
be
automated
tests,
which
would
be
outside
of
closure,
for
example,
and
would
be
more
about
point-and-click
and
so
on.
Those
are
the
three
types
of
tests.
I.
Imagine
there
are
that
wouldn't
be
manual?
Does
anyone
disagree
with
that
drive
either.
B
C
B
C
Okay,
so
I
thought
I'd
start
with
a
with
a
high-level
overview
of
what
Nix
is
just
for
people
who
aren't
familiar
with
it.
Basically,
it's
a
way
of
describing
packages
in
a
functional
way.
You
have
this
read-only
store,
which
is
located
at
the
root
of
your
drive,
slash
mixed
a
folder,
and
that
can
only
be
changed
by
the
admin.
So
normally
it's
not
something
that
one
package
can
go
and
overrides
stuff
from
another
package,
or
even
yourself.
C
That
gives
us
a
lot
of
guarantees
of
the
states
in
the
machine.
It
also
allows
us
to
have
this
next
branch,
for
instance,
running
at
the
same
time
in
the
same
machine
side-by-side
with
the
normal
way
that
we're
doing
stuff
right
now,
which
is
great
for
testing,
because
if
you
want
to
get
into
the
next
environment
you
just
type
Nix
shell,
and
then
it's
does
all
the
stuff
that
it
needs
to
do.
We
define
environment
variables
and
so
on
such
that
you
can
build
on
top
of
the
next
packages.
C
It's
only
the
building
of
the
the
webview
for
for
Mac
OS.
That's
giving
us
problems
right
now
and
that's
what
I'm
currently
looking
at.
Hopefully,
it's
not
something
too
serious
and
we'll
be
able
to
get
them
and
blocked
fairly
soon.
So
once
that's
done,
we
can.
We
have
everything
that
we
need
to
completely
face
out
the
old
way
of
doing
things
and
getting
to
know
much
this
next
branch
and
start
doing
everything
inside
MIT's
and
also
changed
the
CI
servers
yeah,
that's
basically
it
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
has
questions
about.
C
Android
SDK
for
them
for
the
time
being,
it's
not
taking
into
account.
We
still
do
it
your
way,
so
it
will
get
installed
so
automatically,
but
not
inside
of
Nate's,
but
at
least
this
gives
us
the
advantage.
That's
you
know
an
external
contributor.
Well,
let
me
have
to
do
make
setup
and
he
will
have
everything
configured
automatically
and
we
can
guarantee
that
the
build
environment
will
work.
C
A
C
C
When
you
in
the
recipe
that
you
use
to
imports
the
next
packages,
you
could
have
possibly
batch,
that's
there,
it's
not
something
that
I
have,
though,
that
I've
gone
into
depth
at
until
now.
So
but
it's
it's
something
I
had
you
know
in
the
worst
case
scenario,
you
just
maintain
a
fork
of
the
next
packages
and
it
tried
to
keep
it
as
lean
as
possible,
but
you
could
import
those
newer
packages
there
and.
C
C
C
So
if
you
want
to
get
a
newer
version
of
things,
then
you
just
have
to
replace
this
shower
or
tag,
and
then
he
gets
so
it's
hard
like.
If
you
want
to
get
a
specific
version
of
one
tool
and
then
a
specific
version
of
another
tool,
then
yeah
the
the
workflow
is
really
hard
but
like
I,
think
the
important
thing
for
us
is
not
really
to
have
one
specific
tool,
one
specific
version
of
each
tool,
it's
mostly
to
guarantee
that
the
the
versions
of
the
tools
are
locked
down.
C
A
C
God
it's
so
the
nice
thing,
the
nice
side
effect
of
that
is
that
if
I
want
to
build
a
commit
chair
from
release,
you
know
9:33
or
932
from
one
month
ago,
I
can
check
out.
That's
that
tag
and
I'm
guaranteed
that
I'm
I
will
get
the
exact
packages
tools
that
were
used
at
the
time
to
build
that
that
version.
So
even
if
the
tools
moved
on
and
maybe
they
are
no
longer
compatible,
I'm
I
will
still
get
to
the
exactly
the
same
environments
that
I
had.
B
C
C
B
B
Super
small
one
there
is
now
a
transcript,
at
least
for
one
of
the
dev
calls.
You
can
add
it
thanks
to
bounty.
So
we
have
these
notes,
but
now
this
also
transcript
for
the
temp
step.
Call
and
I
have
two
more
bounties
for
for
our
dev
course
as
well.
If
there's
something
you're
looking
for
that,
you
would
like
to
refer
to.
A
B
F
Yeah
I
cannot
give
out
update
above
the
my
server,
but
it
kind
of
depends
what
kind
of
connectivity
problems
you
have,
because
what
we
fixed
is
the
problem
when
you
connect
to
a
server
and
you
lose
a
connection
and
your
your
node,
if
your
node
IDs
taste
in
the
main
server,
actually
they
for
quite
a
long
time,
and
you
cannot
connect
to
that
a
server
anymore
again.
So,
if
that's
the
problem,
then
it
should
be
fixed.
It's
something
a
different,
then
I,
guess
it
depends
exactly
what
what
it
is,
but
that
was
fixed.
D
F
It's
already
fixed
because
it's
only
only
problem
on
the
nodes
running
on
our
server,
so
my
major
is
specifically
but
but
the
autosomes
some
other
improvements
to
the
picking
my
server
and
all
our
things.
I
know
that
there
were
a
couple
of
requests.
Reason
emerge
to
status,
react
but
I
guess
they
are
waiting
for
a
release
which
should
happen
like
tomorrow,
I
guess,
there's.
F
D
F
I
mean
yeah
I'm
available.
So
if
you
would
like
to
get
some
setting
up
my
server
just
debugging
it,
let
me
know,
or
generally
there's
this
status
core
infraction
that
usually
people
hang
out
there.
Who
knows
you
know
what
that
so
yeah
happy
to
help
with
any
problems.
Recently,
octopus,
also
playing
with
my
servers
and
providing
nice
interface
using
the
her
doctor
compost.
So
maybe
that
could
be
helpful
for
you
to
just
simplify
stuff
yeah,
it's
pretty
simple
and
actually
like
makes
it
much
easier
to
run
your
own
a
server.
F
D
Yeah
I
I
was
able
to
run
the
node
in
my
own
computer
and
it
connected
its
image
work,
but
it
did
didn't
it
kept
connected
it.
You
you
like
it:
it's
Lucas
life.
It
was
working,
but
I
never
received
a
message.
So
when
I
switched
it
to
a
mail
server
from
from
the
cluster,
then
I
got
the
messages,
so
that
was
the
problem.
F
F
Like
if
you
run
it
on
a
server
and
you
keep
it
connected
to
the
net
Romi,
it
should
generally
be
the
same
a
baby.
Yes,
our
my
services,
because
they
are
also
not
really
overloaded.
There
was
just
this
problem,
so
if
you
use
the
code
program
for
like
two
weeks
ago
that
that
problem,
or
also
on
New
York
server,
so
yeah
well.
B
On
Death,
Note,
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
mentioned
before,
but
we
have
that
the
chaos
unicorn
day,
April
1st,
so
that's
it's
gonna,
be
a
day
when
we
shut
down
things
like
our
cluster
and
and
access
to
infer
and
FS
can
and
and
so
on,
so
don't
be
fun
and
it's
it's
up
to
you
sort
of
your
swarm
how
relevant
it
is
to
you.
If
you
like
one
end,
you
might
not
want
to
prepare
at
all,
and
it
would
just
be
that
day.
B
Maybe
what
it
would
look
like
without
it,
but
isn't
like
a
fire
drill
where
we're
gonna
turn
off
all
the
things
that
there
we
should
be
ashamed
of
all
the
centralized
aspects
and
if
we
know
any
projects
in
this
space,
please
please
take
it.
Let
me
let
us
know,
and
they
can
also
participate.
Sorry,
bad.
D
Sorry
and
I
think
that's
a
great
point,
because
I
we
need
to
kind
of
be
prepared
to
that
regarding
the
main
servers
and
from
what
I
notice
it.
When
my
when
the
the
mail
server
is
not
working
properly,
I
still
be
able
to
communicate
with
people
which
is
really
really
cool.
So
just
because
I'm,
the
only
whispered,
peer-to-peer
network,
I'm
able
to
send
messages
and
the
other
clients
are
able
to
receive
it,
but
the
only
problem
is
they're
offline
messengers
that
doesn't
work.
D
B
So
even
more
than
that,
well
because
because
you
need
both
notes
as
well
and
if
we
we
host
most
of
the
boot
nodes
right
now,
so
that's
another
thing:
you
can
add
a
custom
boot
node,
but
right
now
it's
not
clear
how
closely
connected
a
network
is,
but
if
we
shut
down
all
the
boots
in
the
cluster,
you
won't
have
actually
be
able
to
talk
at
all.
So
that's
a
good
reason
to
get
rid
of
all
centralization
in
a
cluster
on
the
note
of
message
being
lost
at
all.
B
D
B
We
had
a
call
last
week,
I
think
that
we,
what
we
so
we
we
don't
want
it
to
detract
from
the
focus
of
shipping,
the
white
paper
and
makings
of
status,
reliable,
app
for
sort
of
public
launch.
So
that's
still
priority
number
one
and
nn2
so,
but
that
said
like
to
some
swarms,
they
might
be
more
relevant
to
prepare
for
it,
though,
but
we
don't
want
it
to
be
something
where
people
shift
the
roadmap,
because
we
still,
our
focus,
is
still
on
on
shipping.
The
white
paper
yeah.