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In the sixth chapter of this 12 part series, join status' core contributors as they discuss and debate to which degree they uphold the project's principles enumerated here: https://our.status.im/our-principles/
A
A
We
want
to
have
sort
of
a
stronger
network
with
more
nodes
and
right
now
we
have
this
of
our
own
little
Network
Status,
networking
away
at
least
with
them
when
it
comes
to
whisper
notes,
and
we
need
to
figure
out
ways
to
be
more
part
of
the
film
network
as
well
as
a
strengthened
if
your
network
on
its
own-
and
this
is
different
from
protocol
to
protocol
and
so
on.
But
as
a
specific
example.
A
If
you
look
at
the
whisper
spec,
it's
actually
not
a
standard,
and
there
are
difference
between
Jeff
and
parity
and
they're
also
difference
in
them
to
prove
work
requirements
and
so
on.
So
we
are
essentially
the
only
ones
running
it
right
now,
which
is
a
problem
and
just
trim
the
sort
of
strengthening
to
the
network,
to
make
it
more
robust
and
is
something
that
we
can
measure
and
optimize
for,
and
one
of
our
cards
is
to
have
50
status
nodes.
A
But
we
can
be
much
more
aggressive
and
push
this
up
and
sort
of
push
for
standards
in
the
echo
system
in
terms
of
pairing
sits
on
one
one
way
of
looking
at.
It
is
decentralization
and
inclusivity,
so
I
think
jessic
mentioned
this
a
few
sessions
ago
that
people
generally
want
to
help
out
and
run
notes,
and
so
on,
assuming
it's
fairly
straightforward
and-
and
this
is
not
a
replacement
for
for
money,
but
it's
or
can
kick-start
the
process
and
so
on,
and
there's
also
some
points
around
stuff.
A
It's
easier
to
get
stuck
in
this
idea
that
you
need
to
have
sort
of
micro
payments
and
so
on,
better
sort
of
some.
Some
concerns
with
this
in
terms
of
mental
transaction
costs
that
people
the
barriers
to
entry
for
people
are
more
mental
in
terms
of
accounting.
They
have
to
give
us
as
a
human
in
terms
of
setting
up
nodes
and
so
on,
a
supposes
of
strictly
financial
gains
on
as
a
micro
dollar
level
when
it
comes
to
continuance.
A
This
is
sort
of
an
ongoing
debate,
any
theorem
and
other
other
parts
of
solve
a
ecosystem.
For
example,
there's
no
good
incentives
running
full
nodes
right
now,
which
is
a
problem,
because
it's
a
very
lack
of
price
models
for
various
types
of
assets
that
are
used
in
the
ecosystem,
like
networking
and
bandwidth
and
storage,
and
so
on.
That's
sort
of
an
open
debate,
that's
going
on
and
how
to
solve
that
for
whisper
notices
of
no
and
no
real
incentives
around
them
right
now
and
they
are
not
on
by
default
and
I.
A
B
I'm,
just
thinking
if
this
is,
is
relevant
or
not,
but
take
a
stab
at
it.
Is
there
I
mean
as
I
understand
it?
We
we've
got
the
whisper
protocol
and
then
a
layer
above
the
whisper
protocol.
We've
got
the
status
nodes
which
are
running
a
configured
version
of
whisper
and
then
the
mail
server
software
is
the
goal
in
terms
of
decentralization
and
decentralizing
of
the
computers
that
we
run
on
I
mean
is
the
vision
essentially
that
we
are
going
to
have
we're
going
to
be
building
a
communications
protocol?
B
That's
that's!
That's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
part
from
whisper
because,
as
I
understand
it
what's
been
really
great
about
the
client
that
status
has
built.
Is
it's
being
able
to
to
show
that
running
a
chat
app
for
four
people
on
top
of
just
plain,
vanilla,
whisper?
It
doesn't
crack
it
and
it
perhaps
needs
its
own
type
of
protocol
in
order
to
do
the
job
and
perhaps
we're
the
people
to
make
it.
B
A
C
C
Are
we
are
we
limiting
ourselves
to
only
using
whisper
for
that
for
the
entire
future,
I
mean
as
long
as
we
align
with
the
principles
of
being
as
dark
as
possible
and
whisper
provides
that
it
was
part
of
what
breaking
whisper
does
in
terms
of
like
figuring
out
how
far
we
can
go
since
you
don't
know
that
information
like
what
are
we
gonna
do
if
it
doesn't
go
that
far
or
you
don't
I
mean
like
what?
How
do
we
move
forward
from
that.
C
Because,
right
now,
like
it's
brief
or
somewhat
I,
don't
know
if
or
the
process
of
decentralizing,
then
the
computers
relies
on
us
running
whisper
servers
outside
of
status,
which
means
we
need
something
some
type
of
hire
like
larger,
privileged
node
that
can
operate
as
mail
servers,
so
we
don't
have
to
run
them
and
that's
potentially
set
assess
top
that's
listed.
You
know,
potentially
something
people
run,
that's
incentivize,
it
that's
being
worked
on,
but
what?
C
D
Know
England,
it
was
ever
limited
to
whisper.
Just
so
happened.
Let
me
use
it
I'm
here
from
the
beginning,
so
I
don't
know
the
history
behind
it,
but
I
think
it's
more
or
less
just
a
legacy.
That's
we
are
not
also
super
happy
with
I
think
if
there
would
be
a
better
protocol
example-
and
there
is
a
lot
of
talk
about
walls
based
communication
as
well,
I.
A
Think
it's
no
because
I
just
want
to
like
reiterate
like
this,
is
like
an
an
active
discussion
and
I.
Think
it's
a
bit.
We
like
well
20
for
the
people
and
we
had
a
sort
of
dogma
for
which
it
would
be
really
good
if,
like
every
individual,
would
sort
of
contribute
to
it,
and
it
can
even
be
simply
as
simple
as
questions,
because
this
is
sort
of
supposed
to
be
our
world
Shaymin.
A
It's
not
supposed
to
be
just
two
three
people
talking
and
if
you
don't
know
a
lot
about
it,
just
asking
questions
and
participating
to
the
extent
you
can
it's
valuable,
because
you're
gonna
form
what
we
do.
That's
sort
of
a
group.
So
so
please,
if
you
haven't
sort
of
contributed
or
something
just
have
a
look
there
and
ask
questions
anything
because
it's
really
discussing
for
everyone.
I.
E
Have
a
question
actually
so
on
the
top
of
the
to
qualify,
breaking
whisper,
and
maybe
we
wrote
this
up
somewhere.
So
maybe
somebody
just
post
a
link
somewhere
if
we
have
it's
written
up.
But
how
will
we
know
if
whispers
breaking
like
if
it
starts
to
drop
messages,
especially
with
a
lot
of
us,
leaving
slack
and
moving
to
whisper
like?
How
will
we
know
if,
like
some
message,
like
just
messages,
we're
hitting
capacity
messages
or
not
being
delivered
or
they're
being
dropped?
E
F
D
It
might
be
useful
to
have
like
more
than
one
at
the
same
time,
because,
for
instance,
one
could
be
do
that
real-time
communication,
another
one
would
be
good
for
offline
messaging.
It
might
work
like
that,
so
it
just
depends
on
what
technical
goals
you
want
to
achieve
in
terms
of
my
traffic
consumptions
and
things.
Thank
you.
Essentially,
you
just
being
panel
for
each
additional
protocol.
You
pay
no
penalty
or
support
unit
traffic
and
potentially
security
and
privacy.
G
A
G
H
G
Right
cool
sorry
about
that,
so
so
what
I
was
asking
like
from
the
perspective
of
being
an
mobile
operating
system
or
an
operating
system
in
general,
like
there
are
certain
services
that
are
not
rating
system
offers,
and
one
of
these
is
communication
in
general,
and
then
it's
not
just
chatted
source
of
communication
for
protocols
for
apps
and
so
on,
so
that
they
can
establish
a
service
for
the
user
and
and
we've
been
focusing
our
whisperer
discussion
very
much
in
chat,
but
not
so
much
on
these
other
things
that
are
needed
in
order
to
fulfill
the
vision
of
etherium
being
like
this
world
computer,
where
there
also
deals
with
storage.
A
I
A
Apple
is
not
example,
which
was
the
huge
cocoa
pods
framework
and
all
the
kinds
of
things
you
can
interact
with
from
that
point
of
view.
So,
in
terms
of,
if
you,
you
said
mental
model,
what's
sort
of
missing
or
what
is
there,
what
should
be
developed
further
to
get
to
the
same
kind
of
generality
and
usability
for
developers.
I
Actually,
not
really
a
fan
of
that
technology
and
now
giotto,
I
know
it
was
used
in
a
token
sale.
I
see
it
more
as
a
consensus
mechanism,
so
in
assessing
tabs
of
different
components
that
they
they
use.
It
same
is
one
component
a
very
important
component,
but
the
main
goal
is
really
to
a
consensus
mechanism.
I
Something
and
everyone
agrees
on
what
is
the
the
truth
lies
system
and
which
is
not
quite
the
same
as
a
decentralized
world
computer,
but
I
kind
of
depends
how
someone
interprets
that
and
in
terms
of
it,
is
a
depth
one
big
thing:
that's
still
kind
of
missing
is
a
good
I.
Think
it's
a
good
transport
layer.
So
people
want
to
do
things
like
to
Chrome
I,
don't
think
like
come
state
channels
to
the
supplies
communication.
J
About
the
user
for
the
in
the
users
perspective,
I
see
that
status
looks
long,
looks
more
like
something
like
Facebook,
because
at
Facebook
you
also
have
like
G
apps
Sarge
apps,
not
acts
inside
of
it
that
you,
okay,
you
can
create
up
to
work
inside
of
Facebook,
but
status
is,
is
way
better
because
you
don't
force
anything
like
you
want.
We
are
more
open
than
than
Facebook.
J
We
are
all
about
this
decentralization,
but
also
we
have
this
just
like
Facebook
crap,
and
then
we
have
these
apps,
so
I
think
it's
is
an
evolution
to
add
to
what
Facebook
is
trying
to
do,
but
if
40
users
it
should
be
the
same
final
tool
it's
for
communication
and
for
finding
the
gaps.
There
is
a
lot
of
people
that
that
play
games
that
do
businesses
and
a
lot
of
depends
on
the
user,
but
you
got
idea
so
I
see
that
four
users
are
these
disease
status
for
I.
B
Mean
isn't
the
cross-section
here
really
the
notification
service
that
it's
been
chatted
about
in
slack
and
I?
Think
one
of
the
day
of
meetings,
but
sometime
we're
gonna
table
for
for
Prague
is
how
could
we
create
something
in
a
decentralized
fashion
that
allows
that
she
saying
uses
notifications
when
stuff
happens
which
yeah
it's
pretty
needed,
especially
given
all
the
async
communication?
With
with
that.
D
Name
if
we
compare
it
to
the
operational
system
right
now,
right
now,
they're
like
status
or
any
other
like
the
Emperor's
like
meta
mask
or
anything.
You
just
measure
the
operating
system
like
iris
one
when
you
didn't
have
neither
the
background
mode,
low
notifications,
so
it
works
while
it's
on
the
screen,
but
then
it
can't
really
notify
your
about
anything.
I
think
this
is
a
critical,
so
any
kind
of
background
mode
is
very
critical
training,
yeah
user.
So
it
might
be
informal
for
notifications.
Why
whispers
something
like
that?
So
yeah
I
agree.
G
I
Anything
that's
to
do
with
communication,
it
could
be
obvious.
State
channels
would
be
one
of
them.
I
told
you
the
rating
guys
about
this,
and
they
said
it
did
experiment
with
it,
but
it
didn't
work
too.
Well,
although
I
don't
think
they
are
as
good
at
doing
with
whispers.
Its
status
is
for
as
much
experience,
but
that's
one
that's
one
case.
For
example,
there
could
be
other
cases
with
dots
connect
into
each
other.
I
There's
blurred
the
gas
three
layer
I
think
whispers,
something
that's
also
a
gas
we
layer,
I
can
use
and
other
types
like
metric
transaction
type
of
services,
I
think
we're
gonna,
see
soon.
Discipline,
I
services
that
make
use
of
or
could
very
well
make
use
of,
whisper
but
I
saw
I.
Think
chance
is
really
just
one
of
the
possible
applications.
I.
D
I
D
K
D
Talking
more
about,
like
you
know,
it's
a
sheep
like
protocol
for
like
when
you,
when
you
talk
to
each
other
like
the
old
one,
we
used
to
have
two
protocols,
and
it's
one
is
that
actually
sends
your
data,
the
data
stream
with
my
voice
and
another
one
is
about
sending
to
different
events
about
so
I
started,
calling
UNT,
so
any
CFS
I
super
took
for
our
chat
phones
on
for
other
applications.
They
can
also
combine
whisper
as
a
like
machine-to-machine
real-time
communication
layer
for
like
serving
some
events
between
people
in
a
dark
fashion.
D
E
Actually
looked
at
the
actual
portion
of
the
paper
that
outlines
whisper
used
cases
the
other
day
and
yeah.
One
of
them
was
depth
to
that
communication,
but
it
listed
some
others,
and
it
was
interesting
in
in
that
same
little
section
of
bullets.
One
of
the
use
cases
it
listed
was
for
whistleblowers
who
want
to
stay
anonymous
and
they'll
reveal
information
to
the
public
health
of
those.
An
interesting
use
case.
I
K
I
I
It's
same
as
you
want
shut
down.
You
can
really
shut
down
the
internet
just
because
it's
being
used
for
some
bad
things
or
things
that
you
might
not
not
like,
because
the
vast
majority
is
for
for
good,
let's
just
use
cases.
So
if
that's
the
default,
I
think
makes
the
whole
network
much
more
useful
and
in
long
term,
even
harder
to
justify
censoring.
E
I'm
wondering
if
you
always
in
terms
of
using
a
messenger,
if
you
always
need
darkness
like
it
might,
it
makes
sense
in
public
chat
rooms.
But
if
you
know
two
people
have
a
direct
message
between
each
other
and
they're.
Both
know
the
identities
of
each
other
and
they
have
each
other
in
their
contacts,
do
they
need
to
be
losing,
like
you
know,
whisper
as
a
communicate?
Maybe
they
could
use
something
a
little
less
resource-intensive
for
direct
communication
in
such
a
use
case.
I'm.
D
H
Or
yeah
right,
I
just
tried
to
give
an
example
of
like
so
basically
explain
in
this
system
where
there
would
be
no
middlemen
and
I
say
that
you
could
imagine
a
lot
of
the
applications
or
services
use
today
existing
without
a
middleman,
and
it's
probably
not
the
most
ideal
example,
but
I
might
say
something
like
like
Airbnb,
where
I
could
rent
your
apartment
from
my
vacation,
but
Airbnb
doesn't
handle
the
the
money
or
the
transaction.
It
would
be
directly
from
me
to
you
and
I.
K
K
Sorry
I
was
saying
this
I'm
in
a
similar
boat
as
Rachel
with,
like
my
friends,
where
it's
like
I
use
the
example.
If
they
want
to
sell
something
like
what
platform
do
you
go
to
like
Amazon
or
something,
and
then
you
sell
it
to
somebody,
but
then,
instead
of
like
in
a
decentralized
world,
if
you
wanted
to
sell
something,
instead
of
going
to
like
Amazon
to
sell
like
your
shoes,
you
just
log
into
like
a
portal,
and
you
can
sell
the
shoes
to
somebody
like
peer-to-peer
that
way.
H
L
K
M
M
And,
of
course,
what
Rachel
in
our
you
need
to
say
just
eliminating
the
middleman
from
any
transaction
or
user
experience
you're
trying
to
get
even
if
you're,
trying
to
buy
something
getting
a
service,
but
most
of
the
I
refer
to
freedom,
because
at
least
for
the
Latin
American
community.
That's
something
that
really
empowers
us
and,
and
we
see
a
really
benefit
of
freedom
in
in
order
or
systems
that
we
are
currently
using.
So
yeah.
That's
what
it
is.
A
Cool
awesome
so
I
mean
do
we
feel
like
the
technological
choices
we
make,
that
that's
something
that's
accurate.
It
is
the
same
sort
of
level
of
abstraction
or
does
enable
the
same
things
or
do
people
think
it's
like
different
questions
with
different
layers.
How
do
people
think
about?
How
do
we
bridge
these
two,
these
two
sort
of
ways
to
look
at
this.
A
I
guess
I
mean
like
these
are
like
really
you
two
stories
in
terms
of
sort
of
perceived
benefits
and
sup
and
so
on,
and
then
we're
talking
about
this
technology.
But
what
is
it
for
and
like?
How
do
we
connect
it
like
it's
serving
our
needs,
so
to
speak,
just
taking
it
from
that
angle
and
seeing
if
there's
some
connection
make
a
good
way
of
approaching
it
was
maybe.
A
G
A
G
But
if
I
have
a
banana
and
I
sell
it
to
you,
you
give
me
money,
I,
don't
think
about
the
fact
that
I'm
using
a
centralized
authority
to
control
the
value
of
that
money.
It's
just
like
I'm,
giving
to
you
and
and
and
it
doesn't
even
enter
the
picture
that
that
there's
a
third
party
involved
and-
and
perhaps
it's
a
little
bit
the
same
thing
with
these
decentralized
technologies
that
we're
developing
is
that
when
you.
A
F
That
could
give
you
your
own
version
of
a
Google
like
and
in
probably
slowly
going
on,
that
journey
of
like
showing
what
that
looks
like
very
slowly,
like
even
visually
right,
like
having
immediate
feedback
to
a
decision
you
make
or
showing
giving
people.
You
know
this
idea
around.
If
my
house
is
solar,
I
don't
need
to
pay
the
electric
company
right
legs
with
slow
examples,
but
specifically,
probably
more
in
our
technology.
That
shows.
If
this
message
is
dark
or
whatever
like
you,
can
see,
nobody's
going
to
be
able
to
to
intercept
it.
F
It's
probably
giving
more
like
real
visual
for
me.
Applications
of,
like
oh
I,
see
the
choice
I've
made,
and
this
is
it
doing
its
job.
Rather
than
having
a
lot
of
this
technical
things
that
don't
really
always
creep
into
people's
everyday
life,
they
need
to
see
it
an
application,
I
think
in
a
simpler
form,.
B
I
was
trying
to
explain
to
you
to
some
mates
at
the
pub
the
other
night.
What
with
statuses
and
I
shared
the
at
me
is
like
it's
like
a
chat.
App
I
was
like
yes,
but
it's
it's
like
private
and
it's
permissionless,
and
and
it's
and
it's
secure,
he's
like
oh,
that's
like
what's
up
encrypt
I
was
like
no
nothing
it's
decentralized,
and
then
it
was
like
whoa
yeah.
What
does
that
mean?
I
was
like.
B
Basically,
it
means
that
they
can't
block
your
IP
address,
like
they
blocked
telegrams
IP
address
in
Iran
and
to
the
service
down,
which
I
think
is
the
erratically
tree.
I
think
practically
that's
probably
still
possible,
but
but
that's
how
I
see
it
essentially
decentralization
gives
the
product
resilient.
L
H
Think
that's
a
really
good
example
for
communication,
because
most
of
the
many
of
the
people
I'm
trying
to
explain
this
to
they
don't
quite
connect
with
like
the
benefits
of
decentralized
and
dark
communication,
because
they're
they're
not
suffering
from
any
problems
in
that
area.
They
don't
feel
that
their
communication
abilities
are
restricted
or
they
don't
feel
that
their
communication
is
insecure,
but
I
think
a
lot
more.
People
can
relate
to
the
example
of
just
sort
of
being
fed
a
skewed
perspective.
The
communication
that
we
take
in.
F
It's
also,
then,
seems
to
be
like.
Maybe
we
could
do
a
better
job
around
these
narratives
right,
because
you
have
always
different
user
cases
where
people
find
different
degrees
of
things
important
to
them
or
not,
and
it's
almost
like
trying
to
have
a
good
basis
of
an
understanding
of
what
people
value
and
then
how
to
show
how
these
things
apply.
Value
to
that
right,
like
your
news,
is
unfiltered
or
your
transaction,
there's
no
fees
involved
or
you
know,
you're
safe.
You
can
protect
something
that
you
find
valuable
to
yourself.
G
G
G
G
If
this
is
taken
over
by
a
bad
actor?
What
will
happen,
and
this
like?
Even
if
it's
not
relevant
to
us
today,
we
are
spreading
a
technology
throughout
the
world
that
will
be
there
and
when,
when
something
bad
happens,
we
will
not
be
in
the
position
to
change
it.
So
we
have
to
make
that
change
ahead
of
time.
I.
A
Agree
and
that's
an
interesting
property
with
whisper
as
well,
because
if
I
remember
correctly,
like
doesn't
matter
if
it's
night
all
but
like
two
or
three
notes
are
compromised,
you
still
sort
of
get
darkness,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I
feel
like
this
might
be
different
from
tour
networks
or
make
sense
books.
I'm
not
Zellman,
have
any
more
technical
insights
in
toddler
babe.
In
terms
of
this
type
of
thing,
where
you
can
take
over
exit
notes
and
and
then
you
can
infer
things.
G
K
G
Important
litmus
test
is
like
the
more
special
note
you
have
in
the
system,
the
weaker
it
becomes
and
and
and
I
guess.
The
the
property
of
a
decentralized
system
is
that
most
nodes
are
capable
of
of
handling
most
more
tasks.
You
don't
have
any
special
notes
like
akin
to
an
organization
in
an
organization
in
a
hierarchical
organization.
G
You
have
a
very
strict
limits
on
what
certain
people
can
do
and
and
and
the
same
thing
applies
to
computers
right
it
from
a
decentralization
perspective,
the
network
becomes
weaker,
the
more
specialized
nodes
you
have
so
the
mail
server
is
an
excellent
example
of
this.
It's
a
specialized
node
and
it
performs
the
task
that
none
of
the
other
nodes
are
capable
of,
and
that's
why
intuitively
we're
feeling
that
there's
an
issue
at
this.
F
A
F
G
As
long
as
soon
as
you
have
those
specialized
knowledge,
you
also
need
a
another
mechanism
in
place
to
incentivize
them
to
behave
correctly.
So
in
the
case
of
a
ethereum
and
I'm
watching
we
have
the
miners
that
are
incentivized
to
to
make
sure
that
the
network
works
well.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
weakness
at
the
same
point,
because,
because
it
means
that
you
do
have
these
specialized
now,
instead
of
performing
a
task,
it
can't
do
what
what
the
others
can
and
therefore
make
the
network
more
fragile
and,
like.
B
But
is
not
that
those
nodes
need
to
become
the
new
normal
in
the
sense
that
there's
this
specialized,
because
the
regular
whisperer
network
just
won't,
do
the
job
in
terms
of
reliability
in
delivery,
messages
and
terms
of
storing
offline
messages.
And
then
we
start
looking
at
other
features
like
story
say
heavier
and
fast,
like
like
images.
A
In
the
specific
case
of
mail
service
to
the
main
reason
they
are
specialized
is
because
they
have
a
high
availability
requirement,
the
way
they
set
up
right
now.
So,
if
you
delegate,
if
you're
offline
you
to
people
talking
each
other
and
you
delegate
the
ability
to
store,
misses
when
you're
offline,
you
do
that
right
now
to
one
specific
node
and
if
that
notice
offline.
That
means
that
you
lose
messages
so
that
no
special
node
has
to
be
online
all
the
time.
A
A
Yeah,
what
do
you
think
are
the
main
blockers,
especially
let's
say
that
we
have
swim
notes
and
so
on,
like?
What
do
you
think
are
the
main
blockers
to
you
in
terms
of
mobile
notes
and
having
specific
types
of
capabilities
like
how
do
you
see
that
being
toggled
like
that
is
just
it's
full,
but
it's
a
full
note
by
default.
But
then
maybe
you
have
some
way
of
instrumenting
that
well
there
should
be
a
light
note,
or
do
you
think
that
or
how
do
you
look
at.
D
I'll
also
tell
that
we
probably
shouldn't
underestimate
the
power
of
mobile
devices
in
general.
What
especially
the
modern
wants,
so
I
think
that
yeah,
if
we
would
be
able
to
to
think
a
little
bit
about
this,
come
ground
up
and
to
think
about
slightly
better
mobile
students
notes
they
probably
shouldn't
be
super
light
because
I
don't
know
you.
K
D
An
iPhone
with
hopital,
a
terabyte
of
storage
right
now,
and
then
you
like,
with
the
CPU
powers,
pretty
bigger
same
with,
like
pixels
and
other
high-end
phones,
so
from
some
mobile
phones.
So
two
concerns
are
only
two
concerns:
I,
essentially
the
battery
consumption
and
the
traffic,
and
everything
else
is
like
it's
not
much
like
slower
than
your
computer,
that
you
probably
see
especially
have
a
laptop.
D
A
Guess
with
that
should
probably
finish
up,
it's
been
an
hour
yeah.
We
have
this
vacuum.
The
document
people
can
contribute
to
well
shaming
and
what
positive
discuss
I
guess:
I,
just
wanna
ask
a
question
like
how
do
people
think
we
can
do
better
in
terms
of
active
participation
for
for
filling
up
the
web?
Shame
as
it's
an
example
when
we
were
in
bath,
so
we
were
maybe
seven
people
and
we
managed
to
end
up
with
like
30
items
or
something.
So
it's
considering.
We
refer
to
people
here.