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From YouTube: Principles Seminar Session 11: Liberty
Description
In the eleventh session of this 12 part series, join status' core contributors as we discuss and debate to which degree we uphold our principles, how we can improve our performance, and what we're adding to our Wall of Shame.
B
Hello,
everyone
welcome
to
the
final
day
of
the
principle
seminar
this
this
one
will
be
on
Liberty
and
then,
in
the
second
hour,
we'll
have
an
anonymous
chat
in
status,
so
Liberty
its
our
first
principle.
We
believe
in
the
sovereignty
of
individuals
as
a
platform
that
stands
for
the
cause
of
personal
liberty.
We
aim
to
maximize
social,
political
and
economic
freedoms,
and
this
includes
being
curser
resistant
cyber
presentation,
but
will
do
as
we
did
the
last
few
sessions
and
start
with
certain
brainstorm
and
generation
for
wall
of
shame.
C
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
sure,
I
guess
probably
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
for
me
specifically
around
Liberty
is
ensuring
people
have
the
right
tools
based
on
their
skill,
sets
and
cultures,
to
be
able
to
say
what
they
want
our
build.
What
they
want
so
I
think
that
it's
important
to
honor.
You
know
where
people
are
at
culturally
in
the
world
what
the
conditions
are
like,
what
resources
they
have
and
and
find
a
kind
of
balance
between
those
things
that
would
give
us
a
good
understanding
of
how
to
really
scale.
D
C
C
In
shaping
those
tools,
for
example,
you
know
how
often
do
we
test
in
iraq
or
iran
or
Mogadishu,
or
you
know,
Gaza
or
like?
Is
it
helpful
if
you
know
it's
possible
to
switch
the
interface
on
the
other
side
for
I,
don't
know
China
or
something
you
know
like
considering
different
perspectives
in
that
way,
they
were
to
have
their
own.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
when
it
comes
to
studio.
For
example,
one
of
the
one
of
the
features
we
want
to
have
down
the
line
is
that
people
should
be
able
to
choose.
A
developer
should
be
able
to
choose
from
across
various
frameworks
to
develop
on
so,
for
example,
embark
but
also
truffle,
etc,
and
so
we
kind
of
want
it
to
be
a
non-partisan.
F
G
H
B
B
I
B
J
B
L
Didn't
actually
just
thinking
in
terms
of
being
open
system
versus
one
that
tries
to
control
and
post
certain
things
and
with
yes,
we
initially
had
built
the
DNS
resolution
catch
such
that
only
state
of
us
East
addresses
would
be
resolved
properly
and
that's
no
longer
the
case
we
accept.
Now
any
dog
eats
domain
will
resolve
and
I
think
that's
important
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
kind.
N
M
B
You
all
right
so.
A
B
B
All
right,
cool
moot.
You
don't
get
to
speak
right
now.
You
couldn't
speak
the
next
hour.
45
minutes
I
just
want
to
add
this,
this
one,
which
is
a
tweet
that
Vitalik
sent
out
December
like
a
year
ago,
and
it
is
essentially
summed
up
by
as
a
community
as
a
cryptid
community.
If
it's
touched
one
bit
ahead
before
that,
we
haven't
delivered
on
sort
of
our
promises
of
increasing
personal
liberty
and
labeling
economic
freedom,
let
alone
any
class.
You
post.
B
The
end
of
the
tenth
yeah
and
it's
things
like
the
fact
that
we
haven't
done,
but
we
don't
have
any
specific
instance
of
I'm
banking
people
how
much
actually
sensitive
resistant
have.
We
do
have
any
in
examples
of
that
at
all
and
so
on,
and
we
just
haven't
will
have
any
success
stories,
let
alone
any
form
of
scale
in
terms
of
doing
is
lots
of
people
cool
and
if
you
want
to
add
stuff,
just
go
ahead
and
add
it
in
this
document.
With
that
I'll
move
over
to
the
presentation.
B
This
is
this
book
by
translate
milk
called
on
liberty,
it's
written
maybe
hundred
fifty
years
ago,
something
and
it's
kind
of
important
in
terms
of
how
we
think
about
Liberty
today,
as
a
concept,
I
would
say-
and
so
it's
a
very
simple-
it's
much
more
eloquent
at
a
crime
now,
but
it's
it's
a
very
simple
thesis
or
principle,
and
it's
this
idea
of
the
self
summit
of
individual
and
so
set
in
this
context
of
individuality
versus
some
form
of
authority,
I'm
so
tempted
speaking
that
and
really
what
what
do
you
sort
of
arguing
for
is
that
people
should
have
complete
autonomy
of
sort
of
their
life
and
and
their
property
and
everything
they
do
I'm
the
new
condition
that
this
or
don't
harm
other
people,
that
sort
of
the
harm
principle-
and
you
can
go
a
lot
deeper
into
this
resolved
again
so
on
in
terms
of
specific
freedoms.
B
B
The
some
sort
of
institution
start
of
have
very
specific,
metrics
playlists
and
there's
one
example,
and
looking
at
sort
of
business,
freedom
and
and
monetary
freedom
and
investment
and
property
rights,
and
so
on
and
in
general,
is
sort
of
been
been
going
up
for
quite
a
while,
and
it's
also
fairly
correlated
in
terms
of
well-being
and
happiness
for
people
and
opportunity.
And
these
kinds
of
things.
B
So
you
might
note
sir
Hong
Kong
is
number
wonderful
example.
Just
because
you
have
economic
freedom,
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you
have
political
freedom,
so
Hong
Kong's
been
going
through
a
transition
period
where
it
was
sort
of
under
British
British
rule
oddly
for
a
long
time,
and
then
it
was
recently
handed
over
to
China,
and
this
is
sort
of
umbrella
protest
in
2014,
which
I'm
sure
lots
of
many
people
have
heard
about.
B
This
app
that
sort
of
didn't
require
internet
and
it
was
instead
via
bluetooth,
and
this
type
of
mesh
network
and
obviously
touch
on
governance
is
issues
in
these
countries
in
terms
of
social
freedoms.
This
is
say
a
picture
from
the
suffrage
movement
about
hundreds
ago
in
Britain,
and
it's
the
same
kind
of
thing
here
that
if
we
have
sort
of
tools
that
allow
people
to
socially
coordinate
them,
some
work
for
these
types
of
things.
It
can
be
a
platform
for
that
type
of
thing
and
it
does
all
of
applications
that
are
more
modern
than
this.
B
When
we
talk
about
Chris
resistance,
it's
this
is
excuse.
Edie
comic,
about
sort
of
the
difference
between
the
imagination
of
this
sort
of
perfect
system
and
how
easy
it
is
to
attack.
Well,
you
just
have
like
the
rent
attack,
and
you
just
threaten
someone
and
they're
always
around
this.
We're
working
on
it,
partly
with
things
like
automated
builds
and
so
on.
B
So
that's
it
for
sort
of
deliberative
principle,
III
guess
I
just
want
to
say
like
yeah
processors,
so
so
so
this
is
the
glib
comment
by
a
good
remarks.
These
are
my
principles,
if
you
don't
like
them,
while
I
have
others,
and
so
what
he
means
by
this
is
that
you
might
have
you
might
have
principles,
but
the
maybe
some
people
just
data
principles
and
then
they
sort
of
compromise
on
them
and
I.
B
Don't
think
that's
a
way
we
want
to
be
where
we
have
principles
on
one
hand,
and
then
we
subdue
something
else
on
one
hand,
but
that
said
it's
important
to
remember
that
these
principles
are
sort
of
not
set
in
stone.
It's
it's
more
sort
of
waste
of
thinking
about
in
lenses
to
view
things
like
this
is
sort
of
consensus
about
what
we
think
we're
doing.
B
It's
important
and
their
sort
of
self
self
cohesive
in
some
way,
and
it's
more
sort
of
pointing
to
something
and
it's
important
to
not
get
get
too
stuck
in
terms
of
the
literal
interpretation
of
be
literate
about
it.
And
so,
if
it's
it's,
it's
a
more
of
manifestation
of
the
culture
and
the
ideology
that
sort
of
status
or
lack
of
hydraulic
depending
on
anyone
look
at
it.
B
There's
sort
of
easier
this
for
people
to
stay
anonymous,
and
here
you
can
still
talk
about
anything
related
to
principles
and
everyone
watching
on
YouTube.
Please
chime
in
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
community
to
have
any
kind
of
thoughts
about
all
principles
and
wall
of
shame,
and
so,
when
we
talked
about
over
these
last
two
weeks
and
with
other
I
just
want
to
say
like
a
huge
thanks
to
everyone,
who's
been
helping
out
both
sort
of
in
terms
of
arranging
these
seminars
and
participating.
B
We've
seen
like
it's
been
a
big
time
commitment
we're
seen
like
two
weeks
with
two
hours,
two
hours,
three
three
hours
three
times
a
day,
two
hours
each
time
and
that's
like
a
huge
ask
right,
especially
before
an
event
like
Def,
Con
and
I,
think
we've
been
around
20
people
participating
in
soon
and
I.
Think
this
will
shame
and
then
lots
of
people
YouTube's,
so
just
huge
kudos
for
everyone.
B
Who's
participating
and
yeah
I
hope
we'll
make
use
of
this,
and
it
informs
our
thinking
and
we
have
better
discussions
in
Prague
and
we
get
some
sort
of
tangible
full
of
shame
out.
That's
conserved
inform
what
we
do
over
the
next
few
months
and
work
to
be
true
to
ourselves.
So
thank
you
and,
with
that
the
hand
over
to
Michael
for
general
Liberty
discussion,
hey.
D
Hey:
hey
everybody!
Welcome
back!
This
has
been
an
amazing
two
weeks
like
Oscar
said.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
right
up
here.
Getting
I'd
like
to
start
off
right
with
the
first
two
points.
Actually
because
they're
there
they
can
be
combined.
So
those
decision
and
Ned
comments
about
having
tools
for
skill
set
and
and
culture
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
question
in
the
round.
What
people
think
that
we
can
specifically
do
as
action
points
to
combat
this.
This
lack
of
Liberty
that
we're
providing
for
people.
I
One
thing
that
that
has
been
interesting
is
that
we've
had
an
influx
of
Chinese
users
and
heard
from
Oscar
that
they
might
have
come
to
status
because
of
censorship
or
political
reasons.
So
we
might
have
actually
been
promoting
Liberty,
but
we
might
not
know
the
full
details.
So
we
kind
of
have
this
interesting
area
to
explore
and
I
think
we
can
do
a
lot
more
there
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
help.
At
least
this
particular
group,
among
others,.
D
D
D
N
Owners
like
Eduardo,
do
you
know
actually
raised
this
on
a
call
a
few
weeks
ago
about
this
idea
that,
like
you
know,
even
from
a
Content
perspective,
you
know
a
lot
of
content
that
you
know
we
have
a
plethora
of
content
as
English
speakers
and
I
think
that
there
is
definitely
something
that
we
should
try
more
more
actively
to
create
educational
content.
That's
enabling
for
this,
this
community,
that
can
you
know,
educate
them
on
the
technology.
N
You
know
telegram
gets
shut
down
before
a
before
an
election
in
Iran.
So
there's
a
lot,
there's
a
lot
to
do
there,
so
I
think,
I
think,
yeah.
I
think
I
think,
enabling
through
content
and
then
obviously
this
advocacy
program
will
play
a
part
in
all
of
it
in
terms
of
disseminating
the
message,
but
I
definitely
think
education
and
content
will
go
a
long
way.
D
I
think
it
would
be
cool
if
we
set
an
action
point
to
have.
You
know
a
basic,
a
basic.
You
know
global
perspective
on
having
languages
available
for
all
of
our
bases.
Information
that
would
include
the
website,
I
would
say,
would
be
really
really
important
for
people
up
our
technical
documentation.
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
should
set
as
action
point
times.
Everybody
learn
about
that
that
we
set
ourselves
a
deadline
to
get
information.
A
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
action
item
to
have
and
I.
Don't
even
I,
don't
know
much
about
this,
but
I
feel
like
it's
something
that
we
can
crowdsource
and
put
in
place
so
yeah.
It
feels
feasible
and
it
feels
like
a
really
noble
goal
to
have
I
don't
know
if
anyone
on
this
call
knows
a
lot.
Maybe
a
child
like
how
much
effort
is
involved
in
like
translating
or
localizing
certain
things.
I
If
we
don't
have
any
particular
community
members,
there's
also
an
option
to
pay
for
translations
as
well,
and
we
did
that
for
the
Google
Play
Android
listening
and
we
did
I,
don't
know,
maybe
like
nine
or
ten
languages.
That
way
then
had
it
verified
by
the
community.
But
if
there's
like
a
particular
format
like
technical
format
that
we
can
plug
into
then
I'll
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
the
website.
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
translate
the
website.
Currently
cool.
D
So,
rather
than
then
going
deeper
into
this,
maybe
we
can
get
a
small
working
group
together
on
the
side
without
an
appointment
just
just
sort
of
spontaneously,
while
we're
in
Prague
and
set
ourselves
a
timeline
when
the
action
plan
about
how
it
is
that
we
combine
what's
being
built
with
the
Ambassador
Program
and
using
localized,
and
what
people
office
is
doing.
That
would
be
really
cool
that
we'd.
D
Some
okay,
ours
going
about
how
we
actually
implement
this
in
a
plan
and
talk
together
with
marketing
as
well
and
and
and
consider
you
know
a
really
good
push
for
this
year.
Let's
move
off
to
this
point
and
let's
talk
about
a
real
big
elephant
in
the
room.
Let's
talk
about
Tess
Ferry
and
the
ability
of
property
to
be
stolen
and
what
it
that
we're
putting
in
place
where
we
plan
to
put
in
place
to
mitigate
that
factor,
or
you
want
to
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit.
J
Yeah
so
we'll
have
like
tomorrow,
we'll
have
a
post
mortems
about
this
particular
issue,
so
I'm
cannot
right
now
there
are
a
little
bit
of.
I
don't
know
if
everyone
is
on
the
same
page,
but
actually
did
happen.
So
I
really
encourage
you
to
join
the
post
mortem
and
there
it's
actually.
The
sole
purpose
is
to
figure
out
what
exactly
went.
B
J
D
Cool
so
then,
let's,
let's
spend
some
time
then
talking
about
the
lack
of
an
open
protocol
and
what
we
can
do
about
that.
Let's
combine
that
with
the
instructions
on
how
to
use
the
net
the
status
network
protocol
outside
of
the
status
app.
What
are
the
thoughts
there?
People
and
I
want
to
talk
specific
action
items
as
well.
J
Yeah
essentially
like
we
have
a
whisper
as
a
baseline,
and
then
we
have
some
code
in
in
in
the
closure
code
base
that
uses
this
whisper
in
a
specific
way
to
make
chat,
rooms
and
messages,
and
things
like
that.
But
this
isn't
three:
there
isn't
really
a
protocol
like
an
open
protocol.
It's
not
like
you
can
go
somewhere
and
read
a
full
specification
of
that
and
make
your
own
implementation
of
that,
not
in
culture
but
like
in
in
JavaScript
or
in
in
in
whatever
language.
So
that
means
that
we
don't
with
this.
J
We
have
this
knowledge
and
it's
hidden
and
essentially
the
whole
life.
That's
why
it's
hard
to
access
like
our
chat
rooms
at
yd,
abs,
for
instance.
We
can't
provide
an
easy
API
for
the
apps
to
to
send
something
to
our
chat
rooms
or,
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
closed.
It's
a
lot
of
possibilities,
so
essentially
it's
close
to
our
desktop
and
mobile
clients
right
now.
In
this
way
we
are
not.
We
are
a
little
bit
better
than
like,
what's
up,
for
instance
in
that
case,
but
it's
still.
J
D
B
B
No
I
think
you're
Ned
brought
up
a
really
good
point
and
I
think
it
was
like
in
terms
of
let's
say:
I'm,
banking,
the
back
banking,
unbanked
or
whatever.
However,
you
want
to
call
it,
we
have
this
sort
of
you
scale
of
studies
telling
that
work
and
so
on
and
like
we're
sitting
here
with
our
amazing
Wi-Fi
and
MacBook
Air,
Mac
books
and
whatever
right,
but
but
like
people
who
might
not
have
that.
How
do
we
sort
of
reach
them
and
actually
provide
real
utility
for
them?
B
C
I
could
go
into
more
detail
which,
what
I
think
it
with
things
can
be
interesting.
I
mean
I.
Think
if
we
actually,
we
have
connections
with
a
lot
of
these
communities
through
incubate
to
go.
There
I
think
it's
interesting
for
us
to
go
there
with
tools
that
we
have
and
see
how
they
use
tools
and
see
what
comes
together
like
and
I.
Don't
I
think
not
even
in
terms
of
software
I
think
also
in
hardware
I.
C
For
those
people,
like
you
know,
I
think
everybody
has
so
many
different
reasons
why
to
use
the
product
based
on
what
kind
of
narrative
they
have
in
their
life
that
until
we
really
go
into
some
of
these
places
and
find
this
this
audience
that
we're
looking
for
like
it
would
be.
Probably
really
helpful,
rather
than
just
projecting
what
we
think
then,
to
really
get
on
the
ground
and
be
like
test
the
for
ourselves.
C
D
C
I
Just
posted
a
link
to
the
chat,
I
love,
what
this
company
did
it's
a
blockchain
company,
they
went
to
Kenya
and
they're
based
in
Silicon,
Valley
and
Berlin,
and
they
actually
flew
the
team
into
Kenya,
did
feel
notes,
sat
down
and
figured
out
move
our
money.
This
is
a
really
interesting
case,
study
and
team
prepped
to
read
in
that
post.
But
I
would
love
to
see
us
through
something
like
this.
B
On
a
similar
note,
very
you
have
some
interesting
ideas.
This
is
slightly,
maybe
maybe
slightly
different,
because
it's
more
about
of
people
in
the
crypto
space
and
so
on,
but
in
terms
of
what
you
mad
and
status
could
be
instead
of
decrypt
the
world.
When
it
comes
to
all
these
this
infrastructure,
you
need
financials
on.
Do
you
one
talk?
Do
you
know
Alan
talk
about?
You
want
to
mention
it
briefly.
G
Yeah
I
I
guess
it
could
be
more.
I
I
guess
it
could
partially
be
applied
to
this
principle,
but
yeah
I,
guess,
if
you're,
referring
to
what
I
meant
as
like
status,
the
status
protocol
itself
being
coordination,
coordination
protocol
for
other
protocols
like
or
other
things
like,
for
example,
today,
one
one
thing
that
works,
really
good
in
status
is
to
be
the
way
you
could
just
send
tokens
or
ether
in
a
conversation,
and
it
seems
like
that.
Same
sort
of
UX
can
be
applied
to
coordination
in
multi-state
transactions
or
coordination
and
voting,
but
really
coordination.
G
If
you
think
about
any
kind
of
operations
based
activity
that
happens
in
centralized
organizations
that
are
gonna
have
to
be
built
for
decentralized
organizations,
you
could
see
it
it
playing
a
role
in
in
coordinating
those
kind
of
functions
and
protocols
and
we're
not
the
only
organization
trying
to
become
a
doubt.
So
in
theory,
this
is
something
that
could
be
valuable
for
all
these
other
organizations
that
are
trying
to
become
dowse
and
they
could
be
using
status
to
coordinate
these
different
protocols.
They're
building
as
well.
D
I
just
posted
into
the
chat
as
well
a
link
about
a
guy
who
is
doing
Bitcoin
transactions
using
samurai
Wallet
via
radio
of
via
radio
in
his
local
area,
the
very
very
interesting
thread.
Maybe
we
can
do
something
like
this
as
well.
Do
some
some
tests
without
is
that
that
we
can
use
status
over
over
radio
waves,
not
even
over,
not
even
over
mesh
networks
or
internet
or
whatever?
It
just
requires
one
internet
connection,
but
it's
very
interesting
threat
back
to
dis
people.
Take
a
look.
The.
Q
B
Back
briefly
to
what
I
like
about
that,
the
way
I
see
it
in
terms
of
us
really
matters.
Option
is
essentially
two
paths.
One
is
of
center
around
so
cryptic
community
with
us
beings
of
the
guinea-pigs
and
address,
maybe
on
mores
of
markets,
that
need
sense,
resistant
tools
and
and
and
these
are
more
exposed
areas
and
so
on.
But
talking
about
this
is
a
crypto
space.
We
obviously
stop
dog
footing.
Now
we
could
imagine
on
born
in
the
entire
cryptic
community
and
throw
like
a
lot
of
like
I.
B
Think
people
see
this
now,
where
do
you?
People
have
some
visceral
understanding
of
this
when
it
comes
to
getting
some
of
your
salary
in
crypto
and
dealing
with
banks,
and
maybe
you
have
like
a
company
that
you
invoice
from
and
then
like
having
a
separate
wallets
for
that
and
dealing
with
that
and
taxes
and
all
these
things
which
are
blockers
for
for
a
lot
of
economic
freedom
points.
B
G
G
Guess
these
calm,
these
commerce
frictions
that
are
not
necessarily
like
so
I,
don't
think
it's
like
when
you
talk
about
economic
freedom
like
someone
is
actively
trying
to
oppress
it,
but
they're,
just
like
natural
frictions
that
exist
today,
like
I,
think
like,
for
example,
between
large
organizations,
multinational
corporations
and
small
businesses
around
the
world
like
just
coordinating
I.
Guess
this
what's
called
the
supply
chain
between
each
other
is
just
like
very
complex
because
they
all
have
these
closed
silo
databases
and
the.
G
They
literally
spend,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers,
like
hundreds
of
billion
dollars
a
year
on
on
this
coordinate
these
coordination
issues
and
I
don't
know
like
if
this
solves
a
good
chunk
of
that,
and
and
and
I
mean
really
who's
gonna,
be
making
that
money
just
like
big
businesses
and
large
enterprises,
or
will
that
enable
a
new
group
of
small
small
individuals
to
start
small
businesses
to
start
entering
these
markets
and
enable
economic
freedom?
Just
nat
is
hard
to
accomplish,
naturally
today,
just
because
I
guess
like,
but
really
the
the
technology
to
coordinate.
B
This
when
I
point
out
this
has
to
which
I
highly
recommend
people
reading
this
is
written
by
Nick
Szabo
who's
super
influential.
He
turned
there
like
even
a
term
like
smart
context
on
93
about
sort
of
multinational
small
businesses,
and
so,
where
we're
heading
in
terms
of
legal
and
language
and
and
all
these
kinds
of
costs
as
very
shocking
about,
and
it
touches
on
sort
of
the
language
issues,
but
also,
instead
of
in
interaction
with
legal
frameworks
and
so
on
and
yeah.
This
a
lot
pakya
link,
I
guess.
D
G
Right
now,
unfortunately,
doesn't
seem
like
there's
I
guess,
there's
some
people
working
on
it
in
general,
like
in
the
space,
but
probably
not
nearly
enough
like
many
things,
but
even
if
that
sort
of
friction
is
removed,
I
guess
maybe
something
that
comes
back
to
more
of
our
focus
is:
will
those
costs
get
passed
down
to
the
individual
or
the
end
consumer
or
those
cost
savings
right
like
if
large
corporations
are
saving
hundreds
of
billion
dollars?
G
G
B
R
I'm
here,
mm-hmm
well,
I
think
I
could
say
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
don't
know
where
to
start
from
so
to
target
certain
communities
which
are
definitely
not
technically
equipped.
It's
much
harder
and
they'd
definitely
demands
resources
and
some
kind
of
strategy
how
to
approach
them
to
intrigue
them
and
somehow
to
create
some
kind,
no
use
case
that
it
will
actually
change
their
lives.
You
know
because
we
can
show
them
application
and
what
we
are
building,
but
it
doesn't
reflect
in
their
day-to-day
activities.
R
They
will
never
use
it
and,
as
we
were
meant,
as
someone
was
talking
about
that
exactly
we
what
we
should
do-
it's
not
just
flying
once
to
Kenya
to
promote
yourself
in
this
direction.
It's
actually
to
put
together
like
we
all,
are
remote
and
they're
living
in
different
countries,
and
maybe
we
can
find
some
kind
of
examples.
R
What
could
be
like
good
solution
like
what
kind
of
grew
patient
to
make
some
kind
of
pilot
testing
like,
for
instance,
in
big
nation
I,
know
that
we
had
some
certain
group
patients
of
homeless
people,
even
though
they're
homeless,
they
all
have
phones
and
somehow
they're
using
them.
So
how
to
incentivize
them
to
start
using
to
to
be
introduced
with
tokens,
I
think
it's!
It's
really
ambitious
topic
and
definitely
needs
a
lot
of
people
to
to
be
included
and
to
work
on
this
and
I.
Don't
know.
R
R
R
R
So,
even
though
this
is
something
that
is
entering
into
force
in
2020,
but
since
we
are
discussing
this
like
as
a
principle
and
some
kind
of
midterm
or
a
long-term
strategy,
we
have
to
find
solution
that,
actually,
you
know
at
the
same
time
allows
us
to
open
to
different
communities,
but
some
also
to
think
about
to
stay
inside
the
legal
framework
which
it's
not
up
to
us.
We
cannot
influence
it.
Regulations
will
be
placed
and
entered
into
force
and
we
can
choose
how
to
how
to
deal
with
it,
and
it
will
happen.
P
D
Like
a
session
about
that,
I
mean
essentially
it's
a
it's.
An
attempt
to
protect
the
model
monopoly
position
through
regulation
through
the
force
of
the
state
doesn't
mean
that
people
are
going
to
have
to
or
or
will
need
to
do,
that
inside
of,
if
they're
staying
inside
of
crypto
networks
becomes
are
basically
unregulated,
so
I've
said
pretty
much
for
for
about
six
or
seven
years
now
that
Bitcoin
and
cryptocurrencies
can
only
be
regulated
at
the
at
the
edges
of
the
network,
where
they
interface
with
Labour's
legacy
systems.
D
G
And
so
on,
regulation
I
actually
think
status
itself,
as
a
network
in
a
protocol
could
be
very
important
in
combating
poor
regulation
and,
like
proof
that
this
could
be
done
already
exists
like
in
the
past
like
well
like.
Well,
you
could
debate
sort
of
the
ethics
of
uber
as
a
company,
but,
for
example,
when
they
were
coming
up
in
different
cities-
and
you
know
like
taxi
cabs
in
different
cities.
Some
of
them
are
very,
like
unionized,
in
a
very
influential
of
politicians,
but
I
like
in
the
US.
G
For
example,
when
there
was
like
a
like
a
last
minute
vote,
they
tried
to
get
into
some
bill
to
basically
ban
uber
in,
like
Washington
DC,
for
example,
and
uber,
basically
just
texted
all
its
customers
in
DC
and
said.
Call
your
politician
right
now
and
tell
them
not
to
vote
against
this
to
vote
down
this
bill
and
the
bill
didn't
pass,
even
though
they
tried
to
slip
in
at
the
last
moment.
So
the
thing
is
we're
a
messaging
we're
like
a
messaging
platform.
G
You
know
we
do
have
the
power
to
potentially
amplify
people
that
go
up
against
or
try
to
bring
bad
regulation
to
to
get
that
regulation
not
passed
and
I
also
heard
like,
for
example,
in
South
Korea
part
of
the
reason
why
crips
was
taking
off
they're,
particularly-
and
maybe
some
can
confirm
if
this
is
true
or
not.
Is
that
politicians
that
step
up
against
our
proposed
regulation
against
Crips
or
just
voted
out
of
office.
B
So
I
think
it's
also
matter
of
like.
If
you
have
these
stakes
that
continue
to
push
regulation,
maybe
the
future
will
happen
elsewhere
and
maybe
that
sort
of
word
opportunity
lies
in
terms
of
new
markets
and
so
on,
where
you
don't
have
this
kind
of
crazy
bureaucracy
that
sort
of
stopping
people
from
interacting
so
on.
D
Yeah,
so
jurisdictional
arbitrage
is
a
really
really
interesting
topic,
and-
and
so
we
were
talking
also
about
the
Dow
and
where
it's
going
to
be,
and
what
it's
going
to
be-
and
this
could
possibly
be
a
use
case,
for
that
is
that
we
have
specific
entities
and
specific
jurisdictions
that
we
rely
on
for
their
for
their
regulatory
framework.
For
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
is
that
we
can
then
call
back
on
through
international
law
to.
R
Just
don't
have
to
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
the
fact
you
know
the
change
of
jurisdiction
will
not
solve
problem
in
on
EU
level,
because
all
new
EU
directives,
including
GDP,
are
and
copyright
directive
will
have
extraterritorial
scope.
That
means
that,
even
though
your
application
is
registered
outside
of
EU,
just
the
fact
that
your
users
are
in
you
based,
that
means
that
you
have
to
comply
with
it,
and
we
cannot
guarantee
that
we
will
have
0
EU
users,
so
it
will
save
us.
This
is
just
a
comment.
R
D
R
R
That
means
CEOs
can
be
the
one
who
can
be
targeted
in
such
movement,
because
definitely
you
cannot
erase
the
trace
of
pre-existence
of
companies
and
entities
and
if
status
is
status,
if
it's
some
kind
of
like
legally
inheritance,
you
know
turned
into
some
kind
of
structure
which
is
abstract
from
the
regulatory
portal
view
point
of
view
and
more
like
experimental
type.
That
means
that
we
still
have
people
who
can
be
in
charge
on
company.
You
know
which
was
before
so
there.
R
R
The
things
go
in
such
direction
like
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
give
any
percentage,
but
just
you
have
in
mind
if
you
have
to
make
some
kind
of
risk
analysis
and
put
it
on
the
paper
like
what
can
go
wrong
and
who
can
be
blamed
and
what
can
be
potential
fine,
and
why
and
on
what
basis?
So
just
you
know
collecting
what
is
going
on
so.
G
R
Really
there
isn't.
There
is
I,
don't
know
I'm
not
following
the
political
agenda
of
European,
Parliament
I
know.
Definitely
there
some
of
them
from
Estonia
and
from
Finland
who
are
pushing
crypto-
and
there
are
you
know,
quite
like
consensus-
has
contract
directly
with
youĂ
you
to
explore
the
world
of
blockchain,
but
at
the
same
time,
of
course,
they
want
to
control
it,
and
this
is
mostly
because
of
so
it's
not
about
some
kind
of
technology,
they're,
mostly
afraid.
There's
some.
R
You
know,
of
course,
it's
some
kind
of
the
dark
web
beginning
called
Bitcoin
and
they're
catching
on
this,
like
we
all
know
what
cash
and
dollar
can
do,
and
you
don't
you
know,
but
they're,
blaming
town,
crypto
and
that
it's
use
you
know,
even
though
they
have
like
no
proofs,
that
any
kind
of
terrorism
was
ever
financed
by
cryptocurrency
businesses.
So.
A
B
Correct,
yes,
so
that
will
be
the
only
person
on
this
call.
Yeah
moot
it's
already
starting,
and
then
there
won't
be
any
talking.
They
will
just
be
sort
of
this
stream
live
and
then
people
can
join
either,
which
sort
a
common,
sir
or
just
read
straight
new
account,
and
this
continued
conversation
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a
non
chat.