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From YouTube: Status Ambassador - Onwrd Interview: No-loss savings game with Pool together on dap.ps.
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Status Ambassador Onwrd Podcast talking to Pool together on dap.ps (https://dap.ps/) through the Status mobile app.
A
B
So
the
defy
movement-
I
didn't
I
I
found
not
super
early
I.
Think
for
me
it
was
I
believe
it
was
like
December
2018
and
my
introduction
to
defy
was
opening
a
maker
CDP,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
people
probably
had
the
same,
inventing
died,
and
that
was
the
first
time
when
I
was
like
wow.
This
is
just
like
so
cool,
it's
like
so
amazing
and
so
different
than
anything
that
exists
like
I
know.
This
will
be
big.
B
Yeah
well,
I
would
say
I'm
passionate
about
blockchain,
because
I
think
that
it
offers
us
a
new
tool
to
basically
reconstruct
our
social
relationships
and
mechanisms
that
we
have
to
coordinate
so
like
I
I'm.
A
lot
of
like
my
introduction
to
this
thinking
was
through
like
nick
szabo
and
his
writing.
I'm
like
social
scalability,
and
this
idea
is
like
blockchains
lower
the
amount
of
the
amount
of
the
cost
of
trust.
B
A
lot
change
make
it
easy,
like
lower
the
cost
of
trust,
which
then
enables
more
sophisticated
social
relationships
to
map
on
top
of
blockchain
technologies,
and
so
I
think
that
thesis
is
like
very,
very,
very
interesting
to
me,
and
and
so
that's
why
I'm
into
blockchain
technologies
and
I
think
D.
Phi
is
a
really
important
part
of
that.
Just
because
it's
you
know
so
much
of
our
lives
are
touch
financial
aspects.
Absolutely.
B
Ya
know
I
was
in
I
would
say:
FinTech
spent
financial
technology
and
kind
of
like
entrepreneurship.
So
my
professional
background
is
I
started
a
fin
tech
company
in
2011,
not
blockchain,
but
just
just
normal
Fiat
stuff
and
and
was
ran
that
until
2017
and
we
sold
it
in
2017,
then
I
left
in
2018.
So
that's
kind
of
my
background.
Okay,.
B
B
Have
it
a
bank,
you
put
your
money
in
it
and
your
money
sits
there
and
it's
safe,
but
instead
of
earning
like
one
or
two
percent
interest,
like
you
do
at
a
bank,
you
don't
earn
any
interest
in
it
and
instead
of
earning
an
interest,
you
have
a
chance
to
win
prizes
and
the
prizes
are
made
up
of
the
interest
that
accrues
on
everyone's
deposits.
So
what
that
means
is
the
prizes
are
very
large
right.
B
So
one
of
the
largest
prize,
saving
programs
in
the
world
is
in
the
UK
and
it's
called
they
call
it
premium
bonds,
but
it's
the
it's
the
exact
same
concept
and
so,
for
example,
in
2019,
in
the
UK
they
had
a
hundred
billion
dollars
in
premium
bonds
and
that
generated
1.3
billion
dollars
in
prizes.
So
of
and
and
there's
20
million
unique
account
holders
of
those
premium
bonds.
B
So
basically,
if
you
own
a
premium
bond,
you
always
get
your
money
back,
but
you
don't
you
don't
have
to,
but
you
don't
earn
any
interest,
but
every
month
you
have
a
chance
to
win
all
these
prizes
that
are
distributed
from
the
1.3
billion
that
they
generate
an
interest
over
the
course
of
the
year.
Your.
B
They
have
this
thing
called
Ernie
they've
like
personified
it
and
that's
like
their
random
number.
Generator
and
Ernie
generates
around
numbers,
and
each
premium
bond
is
associated
with
a
number
and
if
you
hold
one
of
the
ones
that
wins
or
that
that
number
matches
with,
then
you
you
you
do
it
and
so
we're
kind
of
doing
the
same
thing
on
a
theory
I'm
in
terms
of
how
its
law,
if
the
winner,
it's
a
random
number
generator,
but
obviously
it's
a
slightly
different
technology,
but
the
same
the
same
concept
and.
A
B
I
mean
it's
so
pool
like
prize
savings
and
no
loss.
Lotteries
are
used
interchangeably
to
describe
the
same
product
and
it
really
kind
of
depends
on
like
what
market
you're
talking
to
and
like
what
people
are
familiar
with,
but
yeah.
Fundamentally,
what
you're
doing
is
you're
is
you're
wrapping
a
game
mechanic
around
a
healthy
behavior
and
usually
game.
B
Our
ideal
target
user
is
going
to
be
someone
who,
who
has
very
little
little
or
no
savings,
but
is
currently
spending
money
on
like
lottery
tickets
or
other
consumptive
consumptive
activities
that
aren't
like
positive
value
for
them
right.
So
that
would
be
like
our
ideal,
like
that's
who
we
ultimately
want
to
be
reaching.
B
We
want
to
be
getting
people
who
don't
have
savings
and
getting
them
to
start
saving,
and
we
want
to
be
getting
people
who
have
a
little
bit
of
savings
and
encouraging
them
to
save
more
obviously
like
today,
with
where
we're
at
blockchain,
like
our
actual
users,
are
people
who
are
enthusiastic
about
defy
and
cryptocurrency,
and-
and
that's
like
the
reality
of
today,
but
our
ideal
user
is
what
I
just
described.
Okay,.
B
I
probably
been
surprised,
we've
had
we've
had
some
people
put
a
lot
of
money
in
like
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
was
somewhat
surprising
to
me,
like
you
know,
intuitively,
you
think
it
would
be.
Probably
people
put
put
small
amounts,
money
and
people
definitely
do
put
some
months
money
in,
but
I
have
been
surprised
at
how
it
has
appeal
kind
of
across
the
board.
B
Yeah
I
think
that
would
be
something
for
sure.
I
mean
just
for
a
sense
of
like
scale
like
since
September
we've
rewarded
their
pooled.
Well,
not
we,
but
the
protocol
has
awarded
$21,000
in
prizes
and
obviously
no
one
who
saved
their
money
has
lost
any
money,
and
so
basically
it's
like,
if
you,
if
you
put
your
money
and
you
have
a
chance
to
win-
and
you
have
nothing
to
lose
so.
B
I
mean,
hopefully
the
impact
is
that
a
lot
more
people
have
more
financial
security
and
have
more
ability
to
use
their
savings
as
a
stepping-stone
to
get
into
other
financial
assets
right.
So
you
know
going
back
to
like
the
mission
in
the
heart
like
pull
together
started,
because
we
were
basically
looking
and
being
like.
B
How
can
we
help
people
achieve
financial
health
and
the
thing
is
you
can't
help
people
achieve
that
until
they
have
like
money
to
start
saving
with,
and
so
like
savings
is
kind
of
the
first
step
to
financial
freedom,
financial,
health
and
so
I
guess
in
five
years.
Our
hope
would
be
that
there'd
be
a
lot
more
people
who
feel
who
aren't
as
worried
about
money
and
who
have
a
better
shot
at
increasing
their
financial
standing,
because
they're
practicing
better
financial
behaviors
do.
B
B
Withdraw
your
money
like
no
loss
like
that
basic
principle
of
like
savings
like
there's
all
sort
of
like
things
we
could
go
like
you
know,
for
example
the
artery's
project.
I
know
you
interviewed
them
like
that's
an
interesting
thing
where,
like
you,
deposit
your
money,
you
can
take
out
whenever
you
want,
but
the
interest
goes
to
planting
trees.
That's
like
an
awesome
project,
but
we're
really
focused
on
like
this.
Like
savings
savings,
you
know
price
savings,
use
case
yeah.
B
That's
an
interesting
question:
I
mean
I.
Think
yeah
I
mean
there's
nothing,
there's
nothing!
Keeping
me
too
much
a
tutu
out
that
night
I
think
about
the
deep
eye
movement.
You
know,
there's
other
things
keeping
you
up
at
night,
but
you
know
I
think
when
I
do
look
at
it
like
the
whole
dfi
movement.
I.
Think
my
it's
not
really
concerned,
but
there
certainly
is
a
question
of
like
okay.
B
Five
years
from
now
like
which
of
these
technologies
are
gonna
still
be
around
like
I
know,
defy
I
will
still
be
around
in
five
years
but
like
which
of
these
platforms,
which
of
these
things
that
we're
using
and
the
technology
choices
we're
making
like
are
going
to
stay
for
the
long
term
and
I
think
that's
you
know
anytime
you're
dealing
with
an
early
ecosystem.
That's
developing!
B
Obviously
like
compound
finance,
which
is
what
pulled
together,
uses
to
generate
interest.
That's
that's
like
a
really
cool
thing.
I
think
that
some
of
these
new,
like
stable
coin
to
stable
coin,
like
protocols
for
swapping,
are
really
cool
like
balancer
just
launched
their
balance
or
labs,
is
really
cool.
So
yeah,
that's
some
of
the
cool
stuff.
There's
I
mean
there's
there's
the
thing
is
there's
like
there's
stuff
everyday:
it's
it's
really
a
really
fun
place
to
be
working
in,
and
so.
A
You
mentioned
this
a
bit
earlier,
but
to
to
get
to
the
place
where
all
these
tools
have
impact
at
scale.
They
need
to
be
considering
humans
that
aren't
currently
in
the
space.
This
isn't
just
for
the
tech
forward,
the
blockchain
nerds.
What
are
what
are
some
things
that
you
think
that
the
blockchain
space
could
benefit
from
doing,
to
attract
new
users
to
attract
you
know
my
less
tech-savvy
brother
and
cuz
yeah.
B
A
B
Well,
I
think
I
think
the
value
propositions
are
there
right,
so
I
think
like
the
we
do
have
product
market
fit,
but
it's
more
just
like
what
needs
to
get
better
is
the
onboarding
and
the
onboarding
really
boils
down
to
two
things.
Like
your
wallet
like?
How
do
you
create
your
wallet
and
manage
your
wallet
and
do
you
have
like
a
simple
way
to
do
that?
And
how
do
you
convert
your
money
from
your
national
currency
to
a
digital
currency
and
back
you
know?
B
So
how
do
you
take
US
dollars
and
go
into
digital
US
dollars?
And
how
do
you
take
it
back
out
and
so
I
think
those
two,
those
two
things
are
wallets
and
the
conversion
of
the
two
things
that
need
to
get
really
really
easy
and
but
once
that's
done
I,
you
know
the
products
that
you
know,
I'm
a
little
biased
but
like
pool
together,
is
clearly
like
much
better
than
than
like.
Premium
Bonds,
like
in
terms
of
like
the
efficiency
of
the
platform
and
like
the
usability
and
the
being
able
to
do
it.
B
24/7,
like
all
these
things
like
from
a
user
perspective,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
like
from
a
user
perspective.
The
stuff
on
defy
is
already
much
better
than
the
alternatives,
but
what's
not
better
is
like
getting
in
and
out
of
it
and
getting
started
with
it,
and
so
the
wallets
in
the
Fiat
conversion
of
the
two
things
and
and
then
obviously
I
guess.
The
other
thing
is
like
the
security
right
and
that's
kind
of
table
stakes.
A
So
I
found
pulled
together
through
my
status
wallet
and
I'm
I'm,
not
too
tech
forward,
I
like
to
play
nice.
But
what
I
really
about
the
status
follows
the
integration
with
naps
yeah
the
kind
of
dap
store,
I'm
and
it's
just
maybe
the
interfacing,
with
the
incredible
protocols
that
folks,
like
yourself,
yep,
are
developing.
So
what
makes
status
and
apps
a
good
distribution
channel
for
pull
together.
Another
yeah.
B
B
I
do
is
I
like
go
to
the
app
store,
I
get
my
Android
and
the
first
thing
I
do
is
I,
go
to
the
app
store
and
so
I
think
status
is
done,
a
really
good
job
of
like
taking
that
same
mental
construct
and
like
mapping
it
on
to
to
blockchain
with
like
download
the
status
app
and
then
go
to
the
DAP
store,
and
then
you
can
view
these
stats.
So
I
do
really
like
that.
A
A
B
Well,
okay,
so
cool
the
other.
You
can
just
go
to
our
website,
pull
together,
calm,
even
if
you
don't
have
crypto
or
have
a
wallet,
you
can
still
go
there.
You
can
read
this
diet
stuff.
So
that's
that's
easy
teeth.
I
is
hard
because
there's
so
many
different
places
to
go,
I
mean
if
you
want
to
get
just
get
started,
you
can
obviously
can
can
download
status
from
the
App
Store
and
and
use
that
and
then
go
to
the
the
app
store
within
status
and
start
and
start
doing
it.
B
That's
that's
how
you
could
get
started
practically
speaking,
educational
content,
man,
I,
don't
have
I,
don't
have
a
recommendation
right
off
the
top.
My
head
of,
like
the
the
place
for
a
beginner
to
go.
There
definitely
is
a
lot
of
places,
but
I
struggle
with,
like
which
one
it's
the
d1.
Ok,
honest.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
I,
you
know
I'm
not
as
huge
of
a
Bitcoin
person,
obviously
I'm
into
crypto,
so
I
I'm
there,
but
I
haven't
thought
about
it.
Much
maybe
I
will
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
I'll
like
drink
half
a
beer
and
I'm
like
save
the
other
half
for
six
years
from
now
or
whenever.
Whenever
the
next
happening
is
all.
A
B
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
the
thing
you
know
I
mentioned
the
security
thing
I
always
like
to
say
when
I'm
potentially
talking
to
people
who
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
of
crypto
is
like
Security's
a
big
deal
and
there
are
a
lot
of
risks
with
using
g5
that
are
because
it's
a
new
technology
so
just
like
make
sure
you're
aware
of
those
risks
like
for
pool
together.
Specifically,
we
have
like
a
really
good
blog
post
that
is
called
the
risk
of
using
pool
together
as
well
as
in
our
FAQ
etc.