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From YouTube: Civic Panel 17-02-2022
Description
A meeting of the Civic Panel held on 17th February 2022.
The agenda can be viewed at: https://minutes.stirling.gov.uk/PDFs/Civic%20Panel/Agendas/CivicPanelAgenda.pdf
Items for discussion:
0:00 - Meeting start
8:44 - Introduction
9:45 - Roll Call, Apologies and Substitutions
10:33 - Declarations of Interest
11:01 - Minutes of meetings (23 September 2021; 14 December 2021)
11.40 - Item 5: Makar Progress Report
32:18 - Item 6: Common Good Public Consultation Update
47:53 - Item 7: Smith Art Gallery and Museum Funding
1:00:10 - Item 8: Queen's Platinum Jubilee - Beacon
A
Your
microphone
should
be
switched
on
when
invited
to
speak
and
switched
off.
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you
have
finished
speaking,
please
use
the
raise
hand
button
to
indicate
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and
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it.
When
you
have
finished
speaking,
officers
should
introduce
themselves
by
confirming
their
name
and
role
before
speaking.
For
the
first
time
on
any
item,
I'm
now
going
to
ask
with
clark
to
the
committee
to
carry
out
a
roll
call
of
elected
members
present
michelle.
B
A
A
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
convenient
good
morning
panel
members,
crawford
bell
community
development
manager,
economic
regeneration
and
communities.
I
have
a
pleasure
to
bring
this
report
to
you
this
morning.
It's
the
first
report
on
the
work
of
the
sterling
marker
and
you'll,
see
laura
fife,
who
is
a
stellar
marker
joins
us
today
as
well.
E
It
provides
an
update
on
the
markers
activity
and
also
the
collaborations
and
work
has
been
done
through
this
post,
it's
worth
pointing
out
and
recognizing
that
it's
been
a
difficult
period
for
the
marker,
given
the
the
restrictions
that
lock
down
and
the
pandemic
has
placed
upon
her.
However,
you
see
from
the
appendix
that
the
work
has
been
wide,
varied
and
impressive.
E
A
F
So
the
very
first
thing
that
I
did
as
sterling
markers
I
wanted
to
listen
to
what
sterling's
poetry,
community
and
those
who
are
interested
in
poetry,
whether
it's
performing
or
writing
or
reading
poetry
wanted.
More
of
so
I
have
did
the
consultation
and
learned
from
people
a
little
bit
more
about
what
they
want
from
the
portrait
scene
and
struggling
and
from
myself
as
maca
and
predominantly
what
people
wanted
were
opportunities
to
perform,
which
is
quite
difficult
or
to
go
and
see
live
performances
of
poetry,
which
is
quite
difficult
during
during
pandemic.
F
F
So
that's
been
going
really
well,
it's
just
a
small
group
of
about
five
or
six
people
which
works
very
well
in
terms
of
giving
each
other
feedback.
I've
also
started
back
up
the
poem
of
the
month
and
we
have
those
queued
up
and
teed
up
until
summer.
Now
I
wanted
to
make
that
a
more
open
process
rather
than
just
in
the
past,
what's
happened.
Is
the
marker
has
approached
people
individually
and
said?
Would
you
like
to
see
that
poem?
Would
you
like
to
give
my
poem
and
to
go
up
on
the
website?
F
I
have
opened
that
out
to
people
generally
and
asked
for
submissions.
So
that's
given
us
a
wider
scope
of
poetry,
so
we've
had
poetry
from
people
who
perhaps
haven't
been
published
or
haven't
been
published
that
much
but
also
poetry
from
brilliant
scottish
writers.
So
I'm
doing
my
job
to
raise
the
voices
of
sterling
poetry
as
well,
so
brilliant
scottish
sterling
writers,
such
as
andrew
greg
from
bannockburn
and
billy
letford
from
the
the
rap
clock,
are
the
two
two
of
the
biggest
biggest
names
there.
F
I
was
very
glad
to
have
them
up
on
the
website
and
on
social
media,
because
I'm
on
the
board
of
the
scottish
portrait,
poetry,
library,
I've
started.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
with
the
head
of
the
portugal
library,
as
of
can
the
chance
to
meet
up
with
other
city
makers
from
around
the
country.
So
we
meet
up
now
on
a
monthly
basis
to
discuss
what
marker
ship
is,
what
the
role
of
microship
can
do
and
potential
opportunities.
F
F
The
sterling
photography
festival,
the
art
collection
at
the
university
of
strangling
and
for
portrait
day
asked
for
submissions
of
small
poems
tiny
poems.
So
we
had
a
great
engagement
from
across
the
world
with
quite
a
few
entries
from
america
as
well,
so
try
to
promote
sterling
and
the
sterling
culture
scene
and
get
engagement
internationally
in
the
sterling
courtyard
scene
has
been
really
really
interesting.
F
F
I've
written
a
couple
of
scottish
portuguese
library
brought
blogs.
I
did
a
remembrance
bridge
event
in
which
I
went
and
stood
on
sterling
bridge
and
read
my
my
remembrance
day,
poem
and
broadcast
that
live
on
facebook
and
ask
people
across
scotland
to
read
their
own
remembrance
day
and
relevant.
Poems.
F
Most
recently,
I
was
heavily
involved
in
the
sterling
city
of
culture
bid
as
well,
and
what
started
from
a
very
small
conversation
about
how
can
we
involve
poetry
in
the
culture
bids
that,
by
far
the
easiest
thing
to
do
would
have
been
just
to
write
a
poem
myself,
but
I
said
well,
I
would
like
to
involve.
I
want
to
paint
what
everybody
across
darling
thinks
of
what
about
really
certainly
loves
about
culture
and
sterling.
F
C
F
E
C
F
I
would
say
quite
a
lot
of
the
engagement
has
been
from
people
who
know
the
post
by
far
that
the
biggest
engagement
has
been
with
billy
letford's
home
that
had
on
as
poem
of
the
month
for
december
and
showing
that
I'm
very
careful
to
share
it.
Not
just
in
writing.
Groups
and
people
who
already
engage,
but
working
with
libraries
and
libraries
help
to
promote
it.
F
But
I
also
share
it
in
in
areas
on
facebook
and
on
twitter,
but
on
twitter
you
just
put
it
out
there,
but
you
know
I
connect
and
you
know
tag
in
other
people
and
on
facebook.
I
share
it
and
and
various
different
sterling
facebook
groups
so
that
exposing
people
to
poetry
in
a
certain
gentle
way
and
because
billy
is
a
very
well-known
and
well-liked.
C
G
Thank
you.
I
was
really
delighted
to
read.
This
you've
been
certainly
very
busy
era
in
a
very
challenging
year,
so
my
question
really
is
so
growing
up.
I
mean
I've.
I
love
poetry
and,
however,
growing
up
me
and
my
friends
always
a
bit
scared
of
poetry,
because
I
didn't
really
know
an
awful
lot
about.
It
wondered
sometimes
what
it
meant
and
so
have
you
got
any
insight
or
any
kind
of
a
how.
G
How
would
some
lay
person,
for
example,
learn
a
bit
about
poetry
without
going
and
doing
on
a
formal
course
like
you
would
maybe
do
university
or
something
like
that,
because
when
you
know,
if
you
just
read
the
the
lines
on
a
page
or
hear
somebody
speak,
you
get
one
image,
but
once
you've
looked
into
it
and
studied
it
a
bit
more,
you
get
more
images
and
more
kind
of
understanding
of
it.
So
just
where
would
you
direct
people
to
to
get
that.
F
First
of
all,
I've
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
empathy,
a
lot
of
sympathy
for
people
who
find
poetry
quite
intimidating
or
quite
quite
alien
to
them,
because
I
grew
up
in
a
working-class
household
who-
and
we
read
lots
and
still
reads
lots,
but
it
was.
It
was
novels,
it
wasn't
so
much
poetry
and
it
wasn't
until
I
really
engaged
with
poetry,
with
edwin
years
of
horses,
studying
it
from
a
standard
grade
years.
F
Back
that
I
suddenly
realized
the
power
the
poetry
has
and
oh,
I
think
what
poetry
is
and
what
poetry
does
in
the
academics
have
written
about
this
for
centuries.
But
ultimately,
it's
about
engaging
us
and
in
an
emotional
way,
engaging
your
emotions
and
helping
us
think
about
things
or
become
aware
of
things
think
about
things
in
a
slightly
different
way
than
we
would
have
done.
Otherwise,.
F
F
So
the
best
way,
I
think,
to
engage
with
poetry
is
if
you're,
not
a
reader,
then
and
spoken
word
performance,
so
through
music
as
well,
music
and
poetry
and
spoken
word,
poetry
all
have
the
same.
They'll
come
from
the
same
place
and
when
my
husband
and
I
got
together
and
20
years
ago,
I
remember
him
going
and
talking
about
bruce
springsteen
lex
and
how
you
actually
loved
bruce
springsteen
likes
it.
Oh
god
he
went
on
about
bruce
springsteen
and
neil
young
forever.
F
F
So
I
think
reading
modern
poetry
by
poets,
who
use
really
accessible
language
and
simple
language
to
get
across
wonderful,
deep,
illuminating
things
and
billy
letford
is
one
of
my
favorite
quotes
for
that,
so
we've
got
billy
letford
we've
got
so
many
brilliant
scottish
writers,
norman
mckay
who's
used
quite
a
lot
in
schools
as
well,
so
think
about
that
and
go
to
your
local
libraries
and
ask
in
libraries
nursery
rhymes.
We've
all
engaged
with
poetry,
since
we
were
amy
winnie,
you
know.
A
Yes-
and
I
think
that
long
ago,
when
the
written
word
was
was
not
so
readily
circulated
in
rural
communities,
probably
mostly
poetry
was
their
way
of
of
preserving
their
history
and
it
was
the
written.
The
spoken
word
that
was
handed
down
from
father
to
and
mother
to,
son
and
daughter
and
children,
and
so
I
think
its
importance
can't
be
underestimated.
D
Thanks
promise:
laura
thanks
for
the
report.
I
mean
it
really
makes
great
reading
and
just
the
variety
that
that's
gone
into
it
and,
in
particular,
as
susan
said
in
such
challenging
circumstances.
So
you
have
to
take
that
international
aspect
of
it
as
well
and
bring
in
that
kind
of
the
business
community
and
now
bring
up
the
the
into
the
cultural
bid
as
well.
So
I
can
read
from
it
what
you've
done,
what
you've
put
into
it.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
just
thinking
of
what
is
the
makership
done
for
you?
Is
it?
D
F
Very
much
so
I
think
it's
raised
my
game
when
it
comes
to
poetry.
I
I've
never
been
one
for
sending
the
poetry
I
think
like
because
I
live
such
a
busy
life
and
generally
I've
got
you
know
a
seven-year-old
and
you
know
got
you
know,
lots
of
different
plates
that
I
spent
I've
never
been
one
for
really
sending
my
poems
out
to
publications
or
performing
the
poetry
that
much
so
knowing
that
I'm
going
to
be
in
the
public
eye.
F
We've
seen
sterling
and
artling
central,
so
the
the
chance
to
to
work
with
so
many
people
across
sterling
to
read
to
be
trusted
with
their
words,
to
put
those
together
into
a
collective
poem,
was
a
great
honor
and
never
mind
to
have
it
projected
up
onto
the
lost
monument
and
interviewed
about
on
the
bbc
and
stb,
and
it
was
terrifying,
absolutely
terrifying,
but
it
was.
It
was
wonderful
and
I
don't
know
how
an
earthenware
topped
that
in
my
poetry,
career
to
be
honest,
so
yeah
it's
brought.
It's
brought
a
lot.
So
thank
you.
A
F
Of
course,
yeah,
as
a
teacher
and
a
poet
just
give
me
the
chance
to
make
my
voice
heard
okay
alive,
we
stand
upon
this
earthen
rock
volcanic.
It's
heat
long
cooled
before
us,
occuls
roll
along
their
line
behind
his
graveyard
stones
and
strata,
and
the
fourth
corals
shining
into
the
distance
castle,
closed
city
hushed
underneath
our
fingertips.
This
wall
crumbles
take
a
step
out
of
time.
F
Few
layers
of
history
swell
below
our
feet.
Watch
the
rain
fall
catch,
drops
on
our
tongues
and
taste
the
sky
feel
stories
wash
down
cobbled
streets,
stand
tall
on
the
hill,
with
heroes
and
fools
against
the
pool
of
gravity
open
and
stretch
to
the
furthest
reaches
of
that
horizon
and
return
with
nothing.
But
the
memory
of
notes
playing
the
breath
of
a
crowd,
and
so
the
memory
of
notes
playing
the
breath
of
a
crowd
vibrating
like
the
skin
of
a
drum,
feel
what
thrums
beneath
the
silence
between
it
tells
us.
We
are
one.
A
A
A
H
Morning,
convener
members,
hey
gordon
ray
team
leader
states
and
commercial
property,
and
this
is
an
update
paper
to
advise
members
on
the
outcome
of
our
consultation
on
common
good
income,
good
asset
register
and,
as
members
will
be
aware,
the
community
empowerment
act,
school
2015
requires
councils
to
hold
an
online
register
of
common
good
assets.
Part
of
the
process
required
is
to
undertake
a
public
consultation
telling
members
of
the
public
to
feed
in
and
suggest
assets
which
they
consider
should
be
included
in
common
group
and
the
common
good.
H
Our
consultation
run
for
12
weeks,
completed
on
the
14th
of
december
2021,
and
we
had
74
participants
and
submitted
suggestions
for
common
good
register,
of
which
we
have
68
assets
that
we
are
going
to
consider
and
we
actual
consideration
of
those
assets
will
take
the
form
of
primarily
investigations
of
title
beats
and
borrow
minutes.
Where
required
and
as
you
will
be
aware,
there
are
certain
criteria
which
assets
have
to
fulfill
in
order
to
be
considered
common
good
and
where
we
have
assets
which
are
land
or
property
which
have
title
leads.
H
We
will
investigate
those
where
there
are
no
title
leads,
for
instance,
statues
drinking
food.
That
sort
of
thing
will
investigate
the
paramedics
or
the
relevant
borough
to
see
if
there's
any
information
there,
which
will
allow
us
to
identify
as
common
good
or
not,
and
the
intention
at
the
moment
is
to
put
a
common
good
register
on
in
the
near
future
and
with
the
properties
which
we
are
sure
that
are
common
good
at
the
moment,
and
we
will
work
on
that
register
and
add
assets
organizing
when
we
complete
the
investigative
process.
H
It's
important,
I
think,
just
to
understand
that
the
actual
common
good
register
itself
is
not
a
closed
document.
We're
not
called
we're,
not
closing
off
any
suggestions
and
since
the
end
of
the
actual
consultation
process,
I've
received
a
number
of
inquiries
people
wishing
to
feed
into
the
process.
Despite
fact
consultation,
is
finished,
and
then
we're
encouraging
those
people
to
advise
us
on
the
assets
they
wish
to
be
considered.
H
A
D
D
Will
the
research
be
done
by
then
you,
I
think
it
said
in
the
paper
by
april.
You
think
you
hope
to
have
that
completed.
What?
What
will
that?
What
would
that
look
like?
Will
you
simply
then
look
at
those
lists
see
if
there's
any
kind
of
anything
in
the
records
where
you
can
justify
them
and
then
say?
Yes,
this
is
a
public
asset
or
it's
not
a
public
asset.
H
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
I
think,
first
of
all,
it's
important
to
state
that
this
is
obviously
additional
to
your
normal
workload
april
may
complete
the
investigation.
It
will
be
very
difficult,
probably
for
us
to
do
that
in
addition
to
our
additional
existing
workload,
and
some
of
the
suggestions
are,
to
certain
extent
very
easy
to
answer.
H
Things
like
drinking
fountains
and
calendar
and
doing,
for
instance,
maybe
a
bit
more
difficult
because
we'll
need
to
investigate
the
minutes,
but
once
once
those
assets
are
added
onto
the
register,
they
will
be
on
there
in
the
future
and
because
they
are
coming
good
assets,
they
have
special
protection
in
terms
of
being
able
to
be
disposed
of
so,
and
the
whole
point
is
to
for
transparency
and
clarity
so
that
people,
members
of
the
department
can
see
what
the
common
good
assets
are
within
the
irrelevant
world.
Okay,.
D
H
As
I
said,
we
did
consult
with
a
legal
services
and
what
we
were
informed
was
there
was
no
remit
for
civic
panel.
I
think
that
my
understanding
is
that
if
it
is,
if
it
is
common
good,
then
it's
common
good
and
it's
not
for
me
or
anybody
else
to
say
it's
not
good,
but
perhaps
graham
may
be
better
placed
than
me
to
comment
on.
I
Thank
you.
Promise
karen
foster
lead
solicitor
for
governance.
Yes,
I
mean
in
the
first
instance.
I
suppose
an
apology
of
the
paper
which
has
been
presented
does
contain
the
line
that
the
deputy
conveners
referred
to
paragraph
2.1,
and
I
think
it's
I
I
initially
would
put
forward
in
in
terms
of
maybe
a
bit
unfortunate
at
the
moment.
The
panel
isn't
being
asked
to
do
anything
other
than
to
note
the
content
of
the
the
register
as
as
put
forward.
I
As
you
know,
the
content
of
the
report,
the
as
a
gordon
set
out
the
process
for
identifying
common
good
property,
is
quite
technical.
It's
legal,
technical,
it's
it's,
probably
a
question
of
fact,
rather
than
a
determination
to
be
made
as
to
what
should
be
contained
within
the
register.
The
purpose
behind
the
register
is
to
ensure
that
there
is
public
knowledge
of
the
factual
circumstances.
I
My
understanding,
I
wasn't
directly
involved.
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
way
that
that
line
is
written
came
for
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
the
the
way
in
which
it's
set
out
the
civic
panel
in
terms
of
council
schema
delegation
has
responsibility
for
overseeing
management
and
administration
of
each
of
the
the
common
goods
fund
funds
within
the
area.
I
The
civic
panel
does
have
a
role
in
the
management
of
the
administration
of
those
funds
and
therefore
has
a
role
in
dealing
with
the
way
in
which
assets
which
are
on
the
register
are
managed.
I
think
that
apologies,
the
papers
being
presented
here.
It
was
not
intended
to
have
that
specific
line,
and
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
give
the
impression
that
the
panel
is
restricted
in
its
business
or
the
officer's
view
is
the
panel
don't
have
a
role
to
play
here
at
the
moment.
I
The
report
is
put
forward
to
set
out
the
position
in
terms
of
the
consultation
and
the
panel
were
asked
to
note
that
position
as
it
stands,
with
the
the
actions
of
graph
2.8
set
outs
future
actions.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
clarifies
the
position
in
the
technical
terms
as
to
the
context
of
the
register,
but
I
hope
that's
how
the
the
position
which
we've
been
intended
to
be
presented
to
the
panel
today.
D
Yes,
I
I
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
the
paragraph
as
it
set
out.
I
mean
it's
quite
it's
quite
factual.
I
was
more
concerned
about
that
that
I
understand
the
process
and
you
know
if
there's
a
clear
legal
document,
that
a
property
or
building
was
gifted,
etc
and
done
all
that
and
you
can
show
title
and
it's
been
transferred.
D
D
I
Gordon
may
want
to
expand
upon
this
about
my
understanding
of
the
the
general
processes.
The
the
existence
of
common
good
has
been.
The
common
good
has
existed
for
a
considerable
period
of
time.
There's
always
been
a
degree
of
uncertainty
around
exactly
what
would
com
comprise
the
common
good
in
any
specific
area.
I
The
policy
intention,
I
think,
was
to
try
to
clarify
that
position
to
make
it
more
more
open
and
transparent
as
to
what
is
contained
within
the
common
good.
The
requirement
to
carry
out
a
wide
public
consultation
gordon's
described
just
how
wide
the
public
consultation
has
been
the
time
taken
to
do.
It
would
be
intended
to
hopefully
clarify
a
lot
of
those
circumstances
to
bring
out
into
the
open
differing
views
on
particular
potential
assets.
I
I
H
Yes,
thanks
convenient.
It
was
just
to
say
that
the
assets
that
we
are
considering
and
we
will
consider
our
assets,
which
belong
to
the
council,
which
we
have
a
type
for,
and
we
will
look
at
those
the
tightly-
will
be
our
main
concern
after
that
will
then
be
borrow
minutes
for
things
like,
as
I
say,
statues
it
may
be.
Then
there
are
certain
areas
in
dunblane,
for
instance,
which
we
do
not
have
title
for
but
which
you
could
argue
are
for
the
good
of
the
people
of
dunblane.
H
That
doesn't
mean
to
say
their
common
good,
but
they
don't
belong
to
the
council,
but
they
are
for
the
good
of
the
people.
Another
example
would
be
ladybill
park
in
bannockburn,
it's
for
the
common
good
as
in
the
good
of
the
people,
but
it's
not
common
good
in
the
technical
term
and
that
it
does
the
about
banning
wasn't.
So
I
think
you
know
if
it
was
an
area
which
of
land
which
didn't
belong
to
us.
We
wouldn't
look
at
that.
If
we
had
no
record
of
ownership,
it
can't
have
been
can't
be
common
good.
H
So
we
would
really
only
look
at
the
assets
which
belong
to
the
council.
If
somebody
can
suggest
account
an
asset
that
belongs
to
the
council.
We
can
investigate
it.
That's
fine,
but,
as
I
say
there
are
areas
along
along
the
river
and
don't
blame,
we
have
no
title
for
a
which
you
could
argue
for
the
common
good,
because
people
enjoy
walking
up
and
down
it,
but
they
are
not
technically
calling
good.
In
terms
of
this,
this
process.
C
C
H
A
A
A
H
A
J
J
A
C
B
D
D
J
D
D
Why,
then,
are
you
recommending
maintaining
seven
thousand
pounds
for
the
next
three
years?
I
mean
it's
always
good
for
any
organization
to
know
it's
got
funding
three
years
in
advance.
I
wish
the
council
had
that
benefit
of
knowing
what
it
was
getting
three
years
in
advance,
but
you
know
seven
thousand
we've
got
a
a
new
creative
museum.
They've
got
they've
got
existing
plans.
As
I
understand
it.
D
J
D
J
I
suppose,
because
of
corvette
and
the
change
directors
to
the
smith
art
gallery
as
well,
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
consultation
with
the
director
about
this
funding.
So
it's
just
whether
we
need
to
have
more
of
a
review
with
our
and
the
people's
math
to
see
if
this
is
a
a
fair
amount.
Really,
okay.
D
If
we
decide
that
today
for
three
years
can
that
be
revisited
by
you
know,
as
I
said,
there's
a
new
council
formed
in
in
may
of
next
year.
No
doubt
there'll
be
new
members
on
the
civic
panel.
This
doesn't
does
it
tie
the
council
in
to
to
say
that
we
have
to
do
this
for
three
three
years.
They
could
revisit
it
and
well,
I
suppose,
if
they
could
revisit
it
and
put
it
up
or
down,
I
guess.
J
B
No,
she
doesn't
she's
sitting
chatting
away
herself.
Sorry
about
that
right.
So
the
issue
here
is
that
the
council
have
appointed
the
members
as
trustees
of
the
smith,
art
gallery
or
the
smith
art
museum.
So
the
matter
is
for
the
individual
to
decide
whether
they
wish
to
remove
themselves
given
the.
But
this
is
a
continuing
award.
A
K
K
You
have
a
personal
conflict
by
reason
of
your
actions,
your
connections
or
legal
obligations,
and
I
don't
think
that
would
necessarily
be
the
case
for
the
three
of
you
in
that
case
either.
But
obviously
you
have
to
make
your
own
decisions
as
individual
individual
counselors,
and
if
you
were
to
class
as
a
declarable
interest,
you
would
be
required
to
leave
the
meeting
just
so
that
you
do
know
that
as
well.
So
there
is
a
specific
section
that
does
make
clear
that
it.
K
I
Thank
you
promise.
No,
I
think
the
the
situation
has
been
well
describing
it
generally
in
terms
of
the
the
responsibility
to
declare
interest
access
set
up
the
council's
code
of
conduct.
It
is
a
question
of
an
objective
test
of
the
the
relationship
between
the
the
decisions
being
made
and
the
the
position
that's
held.
I
Counselor
gibson
has
helpfully
pointed
to
the
the
guidance
which
is
provided
by
the
advice
no
provided
by
the
standards
commission
and
which
does
specifically
deal
with
the
question
of
where
your
interest
may
arise
when
membership
of
an
outside
body
is
what
is
at
a
is
up
for
discussion,
and
yes,
that
does
provide
a
mechanism
as
michelle
refers
to
for
the
council.
Having
appointed
members
on
to
the
the
board
of
the
the
smith
gallery
is
a
formal
arrangement
made
by
the
council,
and
that
does
create
a
slightly
different
set
of
circumstances.
I
The
general
responsibility
to
declare
an
interest
in
this
council
gibson
is
highlighted.
The
connection
is
relevant
here.
The
connection
has
set
out
relates
to
being
a
quasi-judicial
or
regulatory
function.
That's
not
relevant
in
this
circumstance
or
where
you
have
a
personal
conflict
by
the
reason
of
your
actions,
your
connections
or
legal
obligations.
I
My
advice
to
you
would
be
that
the
formal
appointment
by
the
council
on
to
the
board
of
the
the
smith
gallery
provides
a
mechanism
for
you
to
take
part
in
the
decision
which
is
presented
to
the
civic
panel.
Today,
the
advice
note
by
the
staff
provider
standards
commission
does
not.
They
highlight
anything
which
would
prevent
you
from
taking
part
in
a
decision
to
be,
unless
you
as
an
individual
member,
consider
yourself
to
have
a
personal
conflict.
D
A
I
I
The
proposal
in
the
paper
includes
to
allocate
some
of
up
to
five
thousand
pounds
from
within
the
civic
budget
to
facilitate
this
celebration
and
the
delegation
of
authority
to
the
chief
officer
governance
in
consultation
with
the
province
to
determine,
spend
from
within
that
allocated
sum
as
set
out
in
the
paper.
The
intention
would
be
to
have
a
beacon
let
at
sterling
castle.
I
There
are
a
number
of
approvals
which
would
need
to
be
in
place
for
that
to
take
place
and
those
who
need
to
be
worked
through
with
the
the
owners
or
managers
of
sterling
cash.
Was
it
a
historical
value
in
scotland,
but
the
the
intention
would
be
to
cite
the
beacon
at
that
location,
that's
something
which
the
council
have
done
before.
So
it's
present
for
that
to
take
place
in
a
mechanism
which
is
work
through
with
between
the
council
and
historic
environment
installed
previously.
I
It's
proposed
to
delegate
the
detailed
responsibility
for
the
event
and
for
the
the
allocation
funding
from
within
the
five
thousand
pound
proposed
sum
to
the
chief
officer
governance,
as
we
will
have
a
change
potential
membership
during
the
period
and
the
particular
celebration
will
follow
quite
shortly
after
the
appointment
of
new
members
and
and
so
therefore,
to
facilitate
the
decision-making
around
that.
The
proposal
is
to
delegate
the
responsibility
to
achieve
officer,
governance
and
consultation
with
the
provost
the
sum
of
five
thousand
pounds
I've
proposed
as
a
as
a
budget
for
the
event.
I
I
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
but
as
set
out
in
the
recommendations
and
reports,
to
note
that
the
circumstances
around
disagree
that
we
can
be
let
in
sterling
agree.
The
sum
of
five
thousand
pounds
be
allocated
in
the
civic
budget
to
enable
the
event
to
take
place
and
to
delegate
authorities
chief
officer
in
consultation
with
the
provost.
A
A
G
E
I
Other
roles
which
I've
held
as
well,
the
the
lighting
the
beacons
is
organized
by,
and
I
will
get
this
terminology
and
correct.
I'm
the
pageant
master
is
the
the
formal,
faithful
individual
who
who
spearheads
this
particular
event.
The
lighting
of
beacons
has
been
a
regular
part
of
major
national
celebrations
over
the
last
number
of
years,
and
I
would
expect
the
sterling
council
has
been
invited
to
take
part
on
each
occasion.
I
Certainly
in
other
organizations,
I've
been
working
in
at
the
invitations
have
been
circulated
and
it's
a
matter
for
individual
organizations,
be
they
councils
or
charitable
organizations
or
in
community
groups
to
determine
themselves
whether
they
would
wish
to
take
part
and
there's
no
obligation
set
out.
But
I
think
that
is
seen
as
quite
a
positive
event
to
take
place,
certainly
as
a
history
of
sterling
taking
part
in
these
events-
and
I
I
understand
they
have
been
well
publicly
attended
to
the
public.
I
So
it's
a
matter
for
the
the
panel
to
decide
whether
it
would
be
a
positive
step
for
the
area
to
take
part
in
this.
To
mark
the.
I
think
it's
set
out
in
the
the
report.
The
first
platinum
jubilee
of
any
british
monarch,
and
so
that
that's
recommendation,
I
think,
is
to
agree
to
take
part
in
the
process
and
so
that's
a
matter
which
is
presented
to
panel
for
a
decision
that
answers
the
question.
D
No
not
really
because
I
you
know
in
this
introduction
appendix
one
your
guide
to
taking
part.
You
know
it
talks
about
a
warm
welcome
to
other
fellow
celebrators,
which
is
which
is
fine,
and
it
details
some
some
people
in
various
places
in
edinburgh,
the
borders
and
clint,
manor,
etc,
and
who's
going
to
do
what,
which
is
fine,
that's
great.
D
So
did
that.
Did
our
invitation
come
in
too
late
for
us
to
say
yes
and
be
included
in
the
in
the
brochure,
or
has
this
been
something
that's
going
on
much
earlier
and
we're
coming
in
as
a
as
an
afterthought?
Is
every
council
gonna
go
to
do
this,
or
is
it
because
of
the
iconic
nature
and
position
of
of
sterling
and
castle,
etc
that
we
should
be
doing
it.
I
The
date
by
which
the
the
pageant
master
the
national
organizers
have
asked
for
confirmation
is
by,
I
think
it
don't
have
the
data,
but
we
have
a
number
of
months
yet
to
make
a
formal
decision
as
to
whether
we
would
want
to
take
part.
In
the
event,
the
publicity
around
the
event
is
probably
picking
up
those
who
have
already
confirmed
their
involvement.
I
think
there's
reference
and
within
that
to
it
being
updated,
or
at
least
to
being
recognition
of
those
who
have
already
confirmed
their
involvement.
I
In
the
event,
the
document
does
set
out
that
the
the
list
of
those
who
are
supporting
the
event
will
be
updated
as
further
organizations
join.
I
don't
know
whether
other
scottish
local
authorities
will
or
have
taken
a
decision
on
whether
to
take
part
in
the
event
where
a
matter
for
each
individual
authority
and
within
their
own
structures
internally,
for
how
they
would
make
such
a
decision
within
the
stirling
council
arrangements,
the
civic
panel
or
the
relevant
body,
to
make
a
decision
whether
to
take
part
in
this,
which
is
a
civic
event.
C
Thank
you
a
little
bit
what
graham
was
saying
in
2002,
there
was
a
beacon
up
at
demayet,
so
I
was
slightly
involved
in
that
trying
to
transport
the
wood
up
there,
which
is
not
easy
at
all,
but
that
appeared
to
then
be
a
clap
manager
sterling
event
and
that
was
organized
by
people
selling
it
in
that.
Actually,
the
demand
thing
you
you
like
the
beacon
and
the
wind
comes
along
and
it's
out
extremely
quickly,
so
I
think
studying
the
castle
will
be
a
better
venue.
A
K
And
it
seems
to
tell
you
all
about
the
the
thing
and
it
doesn't
mention
this
pageant
master
bruno
peak
who's
been
who's
responsible
for
this,
so
it
kind
of
gives
you
some
notion
of
who
the
kind
of
organizers
are
where
it's
emanated
from.
If
that's
helpful,
but
that's
just
as
I
say
from
a
from
a
quick
google
yeah,
I
don't
know
what
the
letter
is
or
where
the
invitation
is.
I
think
your
question
was
who's
invited
us
to
take
part.
K
I
Yes,
I
think
that
that
sad
appears
a
fascination.
It's
a
very
widely
circulated
invitation
to
take
part
in
an
event,
as
said
because
I've
received
the
equivalent
invitation
within
other
organizations
and
my
in
previous
roles.
So
I
expected
this
circulated
very
widely
and
also
being
published
on
the
internet,
etc.
A
G
Sorry
to
be
on
the
plate,
so
you
speak,
but
I
would
like
to
aim
record
my
dissatisfaction
with
us.
I
think,
given
the
fact
that,
with
I
know,
five
thousand
pounds
isn't
a
lot
of
money
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
However,
emma
still
has
public
money
and
given
we've
been
through
a
pandemic,
we're
facing
the
effect
of
brexit
household
expenses
are
increasing
phenomenally,
particularly
in
household
fuel.
G
G
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
expect
my
reservations,
but
I
feel
as
okay,
the
head
of
state
and
the
head
of
state
having
this,
that
we
should
do
some
recognition
of
that,
but
I
would
agree
with
council
mcgill
that
there
could
be
a
reservation
for
that.
So
I
just
want
to
express
my
reservations,
but
I'm
not
going
to
second
the
motion.
Thank
you.