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From YouTube: Environment and Housing - 18-11-2021
Description
A meeting of Stirling Council's Community Planning and Regeneration Committee broadcast live on Microsoft Teams.
The agenda can be viewed online at: https://minutes.stirling.gov.uk/PDFs/Environment%20&%20Housing/Agendas/EnvHousingAgenda.pdf
Items for discussion include:
0:00 Meeting start
8:05 Introductions
9:58 Apologies and Substitutions
10:13 Urgent Business Brought Forward by the Chair
11:02 Minutes of Meeting; September 16 2021
13:02 Rolling Action Log
24:01 Item 6 - Performance & Strategic Priorities Progress Report
34:10 Item 7 - Community Safety Team Update
48:36 Item 8 - Housing Revenue Account - Projected Outturn 2021/22
1:04:25 Item 9 - Strategic Housing Investment Plan 2022/23 to 2026/27
1:34:05 Item 10 - Development of New Build Housing at Graystale Road, St Ninians
1:37:12 Item 11 - Order of Malta Dial-a-Journey Update Report
1:43:20 Item 12 - Sustainable Stirling: Public Bodies' Climate Change Duties Annual Report 2020-21
2:06:45 Item 13 - Designation of Local Nature Conservation Sites
A
A
Okay,
hey
good
morning:
everyone
thanks
for
attending
today's
meeting.
First
of
all,
I've
got
to
to
read
a
statement
of
the
protocols
to
be
followed
during
this
meeting
of
the
environment
housing
committee.
Please
note
that
the
meeting
is
being
broadcast,
live
on
youtube
and
the
recording
will
be
made
available
for
public
viewing.
Following
the
meeting
can
members
please
mute
their
microphones
throughout
the
meeting
when
not
speaking,
this
is
important,
since
it
helps
to
ensure
the
quality
of
the
audio
for
all
present.
A
A
Can
I
also
ask
that
officers
introduce
themselves
by
confirming
their
name
and
role
before
speaking
for
the
first
time
on
any
item
if
any
member
lose
connection
or
have
technical
issues
during
the
meeting,
please
alert
the
clerk
as
soon
as
possible,
either
using
the
chat
function
within
the
meeting
or
by
email
or
telephone
I'll.
Now
ask
the
clerk
to
carry
a
roll
call
of
the
elected
members
participating
in
today's
meeting.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
apologies
and
substitutions
we're
all
present.
So
that's
good
to
know
declarations
of
interest,
I've!
None
anybody
has
anything
to
declare
on
the
agenda.
Nope,
okay,
urgent
business
brought
forward
I've
nothing
to
bring
forward,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
intend
to
withdraw
the
the
paper
on
replacement
of
the
refuge
collection
vehicles.
A
So
what
I
intend
to
do
is
to
take
it
to
a
special
meeting
in
december.
We're
already
preparing
a
special
meeting
to
to
deal
with
a
walk
cycle
live
sterling.
A
contract
award
if
that's
acceptable,
so
we'll
make
it
two
items,
so
that
will
be
sometime
in
december
michelle's,
making
arrangements
to
to
carry
out
that
duty.
Okay,
so
right
minutes
of
meeting
I'll
go
through
it
page
by
page
as
usual.
If
there's
any
corrections,
if
you
could,
let
me
know.
F
G
Thanks
say:
convenience,
it's
a
brushy,
senior
manager
for
environment
and
place
and
yeah
just
confirming
some
of
those
those
figures,
and
we
will
send
that
information
out
and
obviously,
in
terms
of
recording.
We
had
the
sla
information
we're
now
collating
the
total
numbers
that
are
coming
through
they're,
obviously
collected
across
a
number
of
service
departments
who
were
claiming
that
information
together
and
we'll
certainly
provide
that
to
the
council
of
madurai
and
obviously
the
rest
of
the
committee
as
well.
F
G
A
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
jim
first
of
all,
a
general
point,
and
when
you
go
through
this,
this
action
log,
I
think
I
totted
up.
There
were
13
items
that
were
marked
the
latest
in
the
comments
was
marked
5th
of
october
emails,
sent
by
democratic,
requesting,
update
or
words
to
that
effect
I
mean
that's
an
awful
lot
of
items
that
sitting
at
that
status
and
I
would
have
expected
you
know,
responses
to
be
received
by
them
and
you
know
would
would
this
not
have
been
sort
of
sorted
at
pre-agenda.
A
E
A
E
E
E
E
H
E
G
Yes,
thanks
cancer,
thomas
yes,
it
was
just
to
confirm
that,
following
the
consultation,
it
will
come
back
to
committee.
Obviously,
the
plans
for
next
year
will
be
very
much
based
upon
the
engagement
exercise
and
some
of
the
the
feedback
that
we
get
and
but
obviously
we'll
be
picking
up
in
terms
of
some
of
the
lessons
learned
from
this
year's
work
that
we
undertook
in
terms
of
long
grass
areas
and
wildflowers
seeding
as
well
and
equally
in
terms
of
communications
with
with
local
communities.
E
E
A
I
And
then
linda
yeah,
I'll
I'll,
just
that's
a
piece
of
work
that
we
have
been
doing
and
just
to
apologize.
There
are
a
couple
of
updates
in
my
service
that
haven't
been
covered
off,
but
a
lot
of
the
work
has
been
done
based
on
those
items
in
the
rolling
action
login
in
the
coming
days.
Some
of
the
briefings
will
be
coming
out
to
members
on
these
things.
So
we
have.
J
Good
morning
everybody
linda
hill
regulatory
services
manager
acting
and
just
to
confirm
the
briefing
note,
is
drafted
and
should
come
out
to
you
in
the
next
few
days,
but
I
wanted
to
confirm
that
sterling
council
is
a
designated
authority
under
the
road
traffic
commission's
regulations,
section
4
to
utilize
engine
idling
enforcement
powers.
We
are
currently
doing
a
period
of
monitoring
around
areas
in
stirling
to
identify
the
extent
of
the
problem,
and
we
are
working
with
local
schools
around
materials
to
support
the
education
in
relation
to
this
area.
J
We
are
members
of
the
east
of
scotland
vehicle
emissions
partnership.
They
support
this
education
and
advice
work
and
they
are
also
working
with
local
schools
for
what
can
be
provided,
because
we
feel
that
a
change
in
people's
culture
and
behavior
around
engineering
is
going
to
be
what
will
really
make
a
huge
difference
here.
However,
the
authority
is
designated
to
issue
fixed
penalties
for
engineering.
G
Bruce
thanks
councillor
when
we
we
looked
at
the
the
junction
design
and
I
think
it
was
option
three.
We
were
progressing
if
I
remember
correctly
councilor
and
it
was
felt
it
was
best-
actually
come
up
with
a
design
in
the
first
instance,
so
that
we
had
a
better
indication
of
the
actual
sort
of
land
take
and
modifications
that
we
may
require
for
that
junction
improvement,
and
we
wish
to
go
forward
with
that
to
land
on
us,
because
I
think
that
would
be
one
of
the
first
questions.
C
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
eh264
on
page
23.,
I
I
haven't,
received
anything
about
that
that
that's
one
of
them.
So
I
really
would
like
that,
an
update
on
that.
If
I
can
get
it,
but
I
know
jim
you
talked
about,
you
know
the
the
action
log
being
updated
for
the
next
committee
meeting.
I
Just
yeah
drew
leslie
senior
manager
for
infrastructure
yeah
councillor
the
the
initial
briefing
on
the
ctv's
been
done
as
well,
so
that'll
be
circulated
shortly
as
well.
There's
a
fair
bit
of
work
going
into
that
and
there's
obviously
live
work
going
on
with
cctv
ss
at
the
moment
in
in
facility
and
improvement.
So
that
will
be
circulated
in
the
coming
week.
A
C
H
Can
I
suggest
you
that
we
take
it
away
and
we
provide
an
update
to
all
members
and
next
week
within
the
next
five
working
days
on
the
status
of
all
them,
and
that
can
then
be
obviously
updated
formally
to
committee
in
the
next
meeting,
which
is
a
special
one.
But
we
can
make
sure
the
officers
have
got
an
update
on
each
of
those
lines
next
week.
So
that
committee
can
see
that
action
has
been
taken.
You
heard
the
verbal
from
some
officers
today,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
see
your
rendering.
A
A
H
I'll
present
it
to
you
so
brian
roberts
for
the
parts
of
the
video
brian
roberts
chief
operating
officer
for
infrastructure
environment.
So
this
is
the
the
update
for
this
committee
for
the
performance.
The
student
priorities
report
for
the
activities
that
are
governed
under
environment
housing
committee
set
out
in
the
usual
format
appendix
one,
providing
the
indicators,
including
the
local
government,
benchmarking
framework
information
and
appendix
two
providing
the
exception
report
details
on
indicators
that
are
at
risk
and
it
read
there
are
a
number
of
senior
managers
and
service
managers
on
the
call.
H
A
K
Thanks
for
your
question
against
the
tournament
stephen
clark
here,
chief
officer
for
housing
yeah,
this
really
relates
this
that
relates
to
when
people
are
then
provided
with
permanent
accommodations.
So
it's
really
tracking
how
long
they've
been
in
temp
accommodation
for
until
they
receive
a
permanent.
Let
so
it
really
depends
on
the
people
and
the
circumstances
of
them
and
up
to
them
receiving
a
let-
and
I
suppose,
there'll
be
some
longer
delays
that
have
occurred
because
of
last
year,
because
there
was
less
availability
of
social.
K
E
K
Well,
what
we've
done?
We've
increased
our
stock
of
temp
accommodation
quite
significantly,
partly
because
of
the
suitable
accommodation
order
where
we
need
to
stop
using
bed
and
breakfast
accommodation
for
prolonged
periods
of
time.
So
we
have.
We
have
a
bigger
stock
of
temp
accommodation.
Now,
so
most
people
in
temp
accommodation
will
be
using
dispersed,
let's
in
the
community
as
opposed
to
bed
and
breakfast
accommodation.
E
A
Thank
you
I
I
would
agree.
Counselor
ptolemaic
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
the
long-term
issues
here,
but
I
do
know
that
when,
when
we
get
to
the
sustainable
and
sterling
report,
there
is
a
a
section
on
the
waist
and
it
looks
to
be
going
in
the
right
direction.
Irrespective
of
the
the
change
to
the
bin
collection
council,
mcgill.
L
Hi
thanks,
I
just
wondered
if
I
could
ask
a
question
about
the
emergency
and
a
non-emergency
repairs
to
house
and
I'm
not
very
sure
what
page
number
this
is.
Actually
it's
on
the
front
of
the
appendix
one,
and
I
just
wondered-
is
that
all
the
repairs
that
are
reported
in
order
is
that
just
the
repairs
that
are
attempted
to
be
completed?
K
Answer
that
sorry
yeah
thanks
for
your
question,
council
miguel
in
terms
of
the
repair
times,
you'll
notice,
there's
a
there's
a
few
months
where
we
don't
have
data,
it's
not
that
we,
we
don't
have
the
data.
Yet
it's
just
that
the
way
we're
having
to
report
that
it
has
changed
a
little
bit
and
we're
just
revising
our
methods.
K
For
that
you'll
see
that
the
non-emergency
repairs
are
a
little
bit
higher
in
terms
of
the
number
of
days,
and
that's
because
we
were
coming
out
of
a
of
the
lockdown
restriction
period
where
we
weren't
undertaking
non-emergency
repairs.
So
we
had
a
backlog
to
work
through
which
we
completed
around
about
the
end
of
june.
I
believe
so
that'll
be
coming
back
to
a
normal
situation.
K
So
during
the
lockdown
periods,
we
were
undertaking
less
repairs
because
we
were
only
undertaking
emergency
repairs
during
those
periods
where
there
was
you
know,
there
was
a
really
high
risk
and
we
weren't
able
to
enter
properties.
Unless
there
was
an
emergency,
I
I
would
say
that's
pretty
normalized
now
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
non-emergency
and
emergency
repairs,
we're
dealing
with
now.
A
C
A
G
Sorry,
council
thompson:
I
don't
have
a
time
scale
at
this
point
in
time,
but
I
can
certainly
speak
to
the
the
team
to
get
an
update
on
that,
and
I
think
it
was
really
just
to
review
the
indicators
to
to
bring
them
back
so
that
weren't
just
sort
of
data
only
and
they
were
more
relevant
to
to
the
services
that
we
were
providing
at
this
stage.
But
I'll
certainly
pick
up
in
terms
of
time
scale
and
report
back
convener.
A
N
N
C
Right
and
the
other
point
is
page
37,
average
time
taken
to
re-let
properties,
which
has
got
a
comprehensive
narrative
underneath
it
question
that
came
to
me
was:
can
we
get
the
data
that
show
the
voids
by
area
where
indicate
where
it
will
indicate
one
of
the
indicators
to
show
where
properties
are
harder
or
easier
to
to?
Let.
K
Yeah,
thanks
for
your
question,
counselor
earl,
we
can
provide
a
breakdown
of
data
if,
if
it's
something
that
would
be
useful
to
members,
if
it's
harder
to
let
properties
that
you
may
be
interested
in
and
we
could
maybe
just
specifically
focus
on
the
number
of
properties
where
it's
taken
multiple
times
to
let
those
properties,
I
would
say
it's
less-
of
a
less
of
an
issue
about
the
area.
The
property
is
in
it's
more
the
property
type.
C
C
B
J
Thank
you
introduced
this
paper
detailing
the
enforcement
action
undertaken
by
the
community
safety
team
between
the
first
of
july
2020
and
the
year
of
september.
2020
points
from
the
paper
to
mention
the
team.
Restructure
was
finalized
earlier
in
the
year
and
recruitment
has
been
completed.
There
have
been
a
few
further
vacancies
following
some
internal
movement,
and
these
vacancies
are
currently
in
the
recruitment
process
and
expected
to
be
appointed
around
christmas.
J
The
paper
notes,
the
answer
to
behavior
team,
are
utilizing
the
noise
app.
This
is
a
smartphone
app
for
people
with
active
cases
and
allows
them
to
submit
noise
recordings.
These
recordings
can
be
reviewed
by
the
investigating
officer
and
determine
whether
the
noise
can
be
progressed
for
action.
So
the
smartphone
app
is
a
case
management
tool
for
active
cases.
J
J
The
issues
related
to
zones,
but
not
significantly
impacted
upon
the
overall
rollout
and
the
initial
data
indicates
that
ring
will
take
up
across
the
council
area
is
very,
very
positive
and
we're
starting
to
see
the
benefit
of
the
completion
of
our
recruitment
and
restructure
across
the
service
and
a
big
thank
you
to
the
staff
across
the
community
safety
team
for
the
hard
work
bringing
a
very
challenging
year
together.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
you
may
have.
Okay.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
so
just
page
51
appendix
two,
obviously
looking
at
the
anti-social
cases-
and
so
I
can
see-
we
have
two
two
we've
got
the
eviction
action
progressed
format.
Is
that
the
same
two
as
the
cases
progress
to
legal
action
are
those
different
and
some
way
for
the
other
tenancy
enforcement
you've,
given
one
example
of
changing
from
secure
to
the
scottish
short
short
term,
tenancy
and
format,
whatever
sort
of
tenants
enforcement
could
that
could
that
include?
Thank
you.
A
E
E
Yes,
okay
residents
may
think.
There's
been
some.
A
lot
happened
there,
so
just
on
another
thing
on
the
flight
yeah
the
tipping.
What's
the
the
average
length
of
the
of
the
time
before
you,
you
get
a
report
on
fly
tipping
before
it's
picked
up,
because
I
had
a
report,
I
did
one
and
it
was
picked
up
on
the
same
day
and
the
residents
were
very
pleased
with
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
the
average
time
was
for
that.
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
when
we
receive
the
reports
of
light
up
and
the
officers
go
out
as
soon
as
possible,
hopefully
the
same
day
to
ascertain
the
fly
tip
and
ascertain
any
intelligence
or
any
evidence
we
can
gather
regarding
the
perpetrators
of
the
flight
fly
tipping
and
the
matter
is
then
flagged
up
and
is
collected
by
colleagues.
That
is
all
done
as
soon
as
possible.
I
can
ascertain
average
times
for
you
counselor,
but
I
don't
know
the
average
time's
off
the
top
of
my
head.
J
Action,
I
can
get
those
figures
for
you
as
well.
Counsellor
and
action
is
taken
where
we
can
readily
identify
the
person
who
had
undertaken
the
flight
open.
So
research
is
undertaking
of
the
material
to
ascertain
if
there
is
anything
that
would
identify
who's
fly,
tipped
there
and
then
follow
up
actions
taken
with
regards
to
that
person.
E
One
just
one:
if
there
are
any
actions
taken,
any
action
taken
where
did
public?
Where
would
the
public
find
out
that
action
has
been
taken?
So
if
they
reported
a
particular
incident,
would
they
be
able
to
find
out
that
if
the
council
was
able
to
find
out
who
done
it?
What
action
you
think
is
there
a
way
for
the
public
to
find
that
out.
J
I
wouldn't
imagine
so
counsellor,
but
I
could
take
legal
advice
around
this,
because
obviously
the
outcome
of
this
could
be
the
issue,
enough
effects,
penalties
or
further
referral
in
the
the
procreative
fiscal
office,
and
that
would
be
we
are.
We
do
not
usually
disclose
the
specific
details
of
criminal
interventions.
However,
I
can
find
out
from
legal
how
we
could
go
about
that.
A
J
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
jim
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
page
46
2.3
at
the
top
developing
a
new
anti-social
behavior
policy,
which
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
it's
in
draft
format.
A
couple
of
points
about
that.
I
suppose
when
was
the
last
one
agreed,
because
from
my
recollection
it
was
quite
a
while
ago
and-
and
it's
probably
needed
doing
before
now,
but
we'll
get
I'm
not.
C
J
Okay,
so
yes
you're
quite
correct.
The
anti-social
behavior
policy
is
very
much
out
of
date
and
the
review
has
been
commenced.
I
from
my
understanding
of
it.
Well,
it's
not
a
tweak.
It
is
a
full
overhaul
of
the
policy
and
it's
currently
between
our
sales
and
our
colleagues
and
legal
and
senior
managers
for
agreement.
I
I
think
I
saw
the
advice
and
I
would
need
to
clarify
that
it
would
need
to
go
to
council
this
policy
and
I
think
that,
obviously
we
need
to
work
around
various
services
that
are
involved
in
this.
This
policy
as
well,
and
then
there
would
be
engagement
with
members
further
as
well
on
it,
but
for
my
recollection
would
be
to
go
to
council.
So.
I
C
You
yeah
thanks
jim,
because
that'd
be
really
helpful,
because
I
think
that
would
be
be
useful
for
elected
members
to
have
a
chance
to
input
into
this
whether
they
can
see
a
draft
in
confidential
form
or
not.
I
don't
know,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
guide
comments
if
we
had
something
to
respond
to
on
it,
because
you
know
picking
up
on
linda's
point.
C
What
I'd
be
interested
to
know
is
if
there
is
areas
where
that
requires
adjustments
and
changes
to
what's
being
proposed,
because
other
aspects
of
the
council
are
not
content
with
or
raise
other
queries
about
them.
I'd
like
to
know
where
the
friction
points
are
on
this
because
I
suspect
the
desire
is
to
is
to
beef
up
our
anti-social
behavior
policy
as
much
as
possible
and
I'd
like
to
know
if
that's
rubbing
up
against
other
parts
of
the
council,
where
they
might
not
feel
that
that's
appropriate.
C
Sorry,
graham,
I
don't
know,
I've
got
one
just
one
other
point.
I
want
to
ask
about
the
noise
app.
That
was
all
I'd
be
quite.
Could
we
get
some
a
little
note
on
this,
please
about
because
we're
getting
people
asking
us
about
its
use
and
how
it
can
be
used
and
wanting
to
ask
about
having
it
to
utilize
it.
So
it
would
be
quite
useful.
C
I
would
find
it
useful
to
have
some
information
specifically
about
the
noise
app,
and
I
know
a
couple
of
other
counselors
in
our
group
have
asked
about
it
and
asked
me
to
raise
it.
So
that
would
be
useful
and
I'd
quite
like
to
understand
about
the
threshold.
That's
being
talked
about
from
a
point
of
view
of
that,
I'm
assuming
is
nationally
and
legislatively
set,
and
there
is
no
criteria
or
flexibility
with
us
about
how
we
determine
what
an
acceptable
threshold
for
a
complaint
would
be.
J
Yes,
counselor,
we
can
get
a
paper
brought
forward
around
the
a
noise,
a
brief
for
the
counselors
just
to
reconfirm
the
noise
app
as
a
case
management
tool.
That's
how
we're
using
it
we're
using
it
in
comparison
to
the
diary
sheets
that
would
have
been
kept
in
the
past
and
the
noise
app
is
a
smartphone
app
for
an
active
case
that
the
officers
then
have
to
listen
to
the
recordings.
J
O
I
also
wanted
to
ask
about
how
this
sits
alongside
the
review
of
cctv,
because
you
know
the
provision
of
cctv
doesn't
necessarily
make
people
feel
safer.
It
doesn't
do
anything
to
to
enhance
the
or
change
the
actions
that
go
on
it
kind
of
moves
in
an
area
away.
Those
two
things
surely
must
be
considered
together.
O
J
Yes,
counselor.
We
are
you'll
be
aware
that
there
is
also
an
ongoing
review
of
the
public
space
open
cctv
network,
including
upgrades
to
the
network,
we're
currently
working
on
the
command
and
control
center,
and
that
is
with
our
partners
for
quotes,
we're
looking
to
enhance
the
quality
of
the
cameras
that
we
provide
and
modernize
the
entire
network.
J
The.
I
am
aware
that
the
officers
we
are
planning
member
engagement
regarding
the
anti-social,
behavior
policy,
so
I
think
maybe
we've
mentioned
it
here
and
just
maybe
pre-dated
these
meetings,
but
I
am
aware
that
there
was
definitely
a
plan
to
engage
with
members
rather
than
present
you
with
our
finalized
version.
As
you
said,.
A
A
K
K
Section
2.13
and
2.14
of
the
report
provide
a
summary
of
progress
in
terms
of
capital
works
and
appendix
one
shows
our
income
and
expenditure
with
appendix
two
showing
our
spending
on
the
capital
programme.
You
can
see
we're
not
spending
as
much
in
some
of
these
areas
and
things
like
kitchens,
where
there's
been
some
supply
issues
so
in
terms
of
recommendations
committee
is
asked
to
note
that
first
of
all,
expenditure
in
the
housing
revenue
account
for
2021
22
is
projected
to
be
22.701
million.
K
C
Yeah,
thank
you
jim.
Thank
you
stephen.
It
was
just
you
raised
dog
mentioned
2.3.
I
wonder
if
you
could
just
give
an
explanation
of
the
various
factors
that
are
contributing
to
that.
I
think
it'd
be
useful
to
have
that
at
that
committee.
I
know
it's
been
talked
about
in
in
other
forums,
but
that
would
be
helpful.
K
Yes,
certainly,
I
suppose
that
the
main
thing
to
note
really
is
that
it's
not
that
there's
an
overspend
in
repairs
and
maintenance,
it's
normally
just
how
we
apportion
costs,
so
our
team
work
on
capital
works,
and
that
is
how
that
side
of
the
service
receives
an
income.
So
if
we're
not
doing
as
much
capital
works,
the
money
for
salaries
has
to
be
apportioned
somewhere.
My
colleague,
jillian
mckenzie,
might
be
on
the
line
and
she
might
be
able
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
detail
than
that
julian.
P
Are
we're
not
expecting
to
be
able
to
deliver
as
much
in
terms
of
capital
installations
either
because
of
the
the
issues
around
getting
procurement
issues
and
supply
issues
or
or
maybe
just
the
the
restrictions
that
are
meaning
that
the
teams
can't
be
in
at
the
same
level
putting
in
the
the
installations
you're
expecting
less
income.
On
that
basis,
and
as
you
say,
it's
not
specifically
an
overspend.
P
F
You
thanks
for
joining
me,
yeah!
Thank
you
yeah.
So
this
page
page
57,
you
obviously
detail
your
your
brand
news
for
the
internal
works,
your
primary
news
for
external
works
of
the
houses,
so
your
room,
this
voluntation
et
cetera,
and
obviously
you
have
have
a
section
on
the
new
house
building
and
conversions
and
stuff.
But
what
appears
to
be
missing
is
sort
of
an
update
on
ex
exterior
spaces
or
outdoor
spaces
that
are
within
the
purview
of
the
housing
housing
revenue.
So
I
know
you're
responsible
for
some
axis.
F
Housing,
as
opposed
to
themselves
from
that,
would
be
good
to
see
the
plans
you've
got
to
maintain
or
upgrade,
and
some
of
those
spaces
and
formats.
Some
have
been
up
here
and
you've
certainly
appeared
and
been
neglected
for
for
quite
some
time,
so
be
good
to
see
the
detailed
and
report
the
plans
to
update
those
those
areas
that
are
formed
or
thunder
housing,
which
you
know
has
done.
Houses,
perhaps
comes
as
a
surprise
to
some
people
that
do
fall
into
the
house
and
thank
you.
K
Thanks
for
your
question,
counselor
maturity,
I
think
my
colleague,
gregor
whiteman
may
be
able
to
respond
a
little
bit
more
detail
into
the
works
we
do
in
in
this
area.
But
it's
certainly
something
that
I'm
aware
of
that
that
some
of
our
areas,
you
know,
potentially
communal
areas,
might
need
some
work
if
they're
a
bit
neglected
but
gregory
might
be
able
to
provide
a
bit
more
detail.
Q
So
when
you
show
up
on
the
capital
programme
and
from
time
to
time,
we
know,
there's
investment
required,
say
and
unadopted
roads
or
footpaths
that
are
out
with
the
cartilages
of
tenanted
properties
or
owner
occupiers
are
not
responsible
for
a
share.
We
would
then
show
that
in
the
capital
investment
program
in
any
given
year
to
show
that
spain,
so
I
remember
the
last
time
we
did
a
significant
amount
of
upgrade
works
was
in
unadopted
roads
where
we'd
agreed
with
roads.
Q
If
we
brought
certain
roads
and
footpaths
up
to
an
adoptable
standard
and
was
signed
off,
then
they
would
then
take
on
the
maintenance
thereafter,
so
usually
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
It's
maintenance.
Only
it's
small
sums
of
money
in
terms
of
you
know
tarmac
area,
etc,
defence
and
repair,
and
so
it's
not
a
big
enough
item
that
it
would
show
up
on
on
capitol
bend.
F
And
thanks
thank
you
know,
certainly
I'm
aware
of
what
at
least
one
parking
little
path
pass
through
through
a
park
which
is
belongs
to
housing,
so
that's,
perhaps
one
that
could
be
doing
with
with
an
upgrades
that
can
then
be
be
adopted
by
by
iran
services.
From
that
I
think
yeah.
I
can
access
wages,
probably
with
a
transfer
of
being
adopted
by
roads,
but
it
could
probably
do
a
bit
more
actual
investment.
F
O
Houston,
thank
you
chair.
It's
on
page
61,
the
housing
revenue
account
the
second
part
about
the
incomes,
I'm
just
curious
about
the
the
budget
and
the
out
turn
and
the
they're
exactly
matched,
and
given
the
period
of
upheaval
that
we've
gone
through
to
to
see
that
the
outcome
is
exactly
what
was
predicted
in
the
budget
is
somewhat
surprising
to
me.
You
know
garages,
for
instance
229
000,
exactly
I.
O
I
know
the
team
are
under
huge
pressure
working
in
a
backlog,
and
so
I
wonder
why,
given
that
the
backlog
that
working
with
the
pressure
they're
working
on
how
we
can
we
can
say
that
we've
got
that
exactly
what
we
budgeted
for
rents
for
commercial
properties.
Given
the
pressure
the
businesses
have
been
under
exactly
what
we
anticipated.
So
I'm
just
questioning,
I
suppose,
the
veracity
of
the
of
the
numbers
that
we're
looking
at.
In
that,
as
I
say
in
unsettled
and
challenging
times,
we've
got
exactly
an
outcome
that
we've
budgeted
for.
K
For
your
question,
councillor
houston,
it's
important
to
note
that
we
we
really
have
to
have
both
of
these
numbers,
exactly
matching
we're
not
allowed
to
have
an
underspend.
If
you
note
on
the
first
second
and
third
board,
I
think
in
the
fifth
line,
you'll
see,
there's
a
significant
underspend
in
terms
of
what
we
thought:
we'd
transfer
to
the
investment
program
from
revenue,
so
that
has
been
one
of
the
things
that
we've
had
to
do
to
mitigate
against
a
lower
income
because
of
increased
arrears,
etc.
K
My
colleague,
jillian
mckenzie,
might
be
able
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
terms
of
the
projections,
but
we
were
adjusting
these
and
throughout
the
year
you
know
in
to
address
basically
shortfalls
in
terms
of
we
saw
in
terms
of
expenditure
income
coming
in
jillian.
Do
you
maybe
want
to
speak
to
that?
A
little
bit
more?
Please.
P
P
However,
to
address
graham's
point
from
the
information
that
we've
got
coming
through
the
finance
ledger
at
the
moment,
we
are
projecting
that
that
the
income
will
be
at
that
level.
Obviously,
if
we
get
better
intelligence
or
something
changes,
it
would
then
make
a
difference
and
you
would
then
start
to
see
the
difference
coming
coming
through
and
and
obviously,
if
we
were
getting
less
income
coming
through,
it
would
be
reflected
in
that
that
balance
and
figure
up
in
the
transfer
from
the
transfer
from
the
investment
program.
P
But
at
the
moment
the
intelligence
is
telling
us
that
it
is
kind
of
on
on
track.
We
did
make
some
realignments
at
the
start
of
the
year,
but
just
based
on
what
we
were
expecting
so
yeah.
That's
that's
still
our
current
thinking
on
it
again.
It
may
change
because
that
these
papers
were
pulled
together,
maybe
about
kind
of
six
eight
weeks
ago,
so
we're
now
starting
to
work
on
the
next
round
of
projections
and
we
might
start
to
see
some
changes
once
these
get
taken
account
off.
O
So
it
doesn't
flag
up
to
us
any
kind
of
issues
that
we
that
we've
got
and
and
facing
on
an
everyday
basis
where
we
get
adjustments
made
and
then
a
set
of
figures
presented
to
us
which
are
neatly
balanced.
I
wonder
if,
if
it's
possible
just
to
in
some
way
to
reflect
that
and
actually
show
where
the
adjustments
have
been
made,
so
that
we
we
can
see
where
some
of
the
challenges
lie
in
in
the
shorter
term,.
P
Yeah,
as
we
move
forward,
we
will
we.
We
are
very
likely
to
see
changes.
I
can't
see
that
it
would
necessarily
remain
stable
for
the
for
the
full
year,
as
as
we
can
move
forward
and
get
better
intelligence,
and
you
will
see
that
and
we
won't
do
any
more
realignments
that
that
was
just
like
at
the
start
of
the
year.
This
is
what
we
were
expecting
it
to
be
coming
through,
so
you
I
would
expect
to
see
that
if
that
answers
that
question
see
the
changes.
A
R
Your
right,
based
on
the
information
or
you
just
discussed
there
in
terms
of
this
thing,
yes
and
obviously
in
terms
of
this
and
ask
the
question
why
you
need
balance-
and
you
said
they've
got
to
balance
okay,
but
I
think
you've
said
there
are
the
transfer
to
investment
program
and
such
that
it
was
2.2
million
rather
than
the
number
five
or
five
or
six
down
in
the
last
year.
So
what
what
kind
of
figures
are
we
talking
about,
then?
Was
there
a
that's
balanced
now,
but
what
was
the
shortfall
in
the
income
below?
P
At
the
current
time,
we're
not
projecting
our
variance
in
the
income
at
all
councillor
macpherson,
the
difference
is
all
and
and
the
spend
it's
all
in
the
basically,
it's
the
the
kind
of
repairs
and
maintenance
absorbing
the
additional
cost
for
the
tech
services
that
that's
the
bulk
of
it.
We've
got
some
minor
under
spends
around
supervision
and
management,
which
is
effectively
employee
costs.
P
R
N
A
B
K
Thanks
chair,
it's
stephen
clark,
chief
officer
for
housing,
so
this
is
the
strategic
housing
investment
plans.
Long-Standing
committee
members
will
be
aware
of
of
the
annually
produced
ship,
which
is
a
document
we
publish
listing
all
potential
future
developments
are
aware
of
that
could
be
developed
out
within
the
next
five
years
and
we
submit
this
document
to
the
scottish
government
on
an
annual
basis.
K
This
informs
the
allocation
of
scottish
government
resources
so
they're
aware
of
what
the
program
and
grant
requirement
is
for
each
local
authority
area,
and
then
we
can
potentially
to
increase
or
reduce
the
allocation
of
funding.
The
scottish
government
has
recently
upped
the
target
from
100
100
000,
affordable
homes
over
the
next
10
years
to
110
000,
affordable
homes
over
the
next
10
years.
So
I
would
expect
to
see
an
increase
in
the
level
of
funding
going
forward.
K
Section
2.1
of
the
report
notes
that
around
52
million
pounds
in
funding
will
be
available
to
fund
developments
in
sterling
during
the
next
five
years.
Section
two
also
notes
that
we're
targeting
fifty
percent
fifteen
percent
of
properties,
a
specialist
provision
for
needs,
such
as
wheelchair
users,
section
two
point.
Nine
shows
the
potential
for
twelve
hundred
and
sixty
affordable
homes
to
be
delivered
during
the
next
five
years.
K
A
K
Yeah,
I
mean
there's
no
doubt
about
it,
we're
quite
reliant
on
the
affordable
housing
policy
to
access
sites
for
development,
so
the
health
of
the
construction
industry
is
important
to
us.
It's
very,
it
seems
to
be
very
you
know
heated.
It
seems
to
be
very
strong
at
the
moment,
so
we'd
expect
to
see
sites
coming
up
quite
regularly.
K
R
And
I've
said
this
as
well.
I
personally
ever
didn't
see
the
5
wheelchair
accessible
home
that
whole
and
adequate,
and
you
know
you
know
I
think,
look
reading
back
down
papers.
You
know
they
conducted
400
households
relying
on
these
and
going
forward
in
future
years,
and
I
don't
think
the
five
percent
goes
anywhere
near
enough
and
you
know
it's
great
we're
doing
2.6.
R
You
know
that
15
will
always
for
special
provision,
but
that's
not
wheelchair
accessible
homes
here,
and
these
are
life-changing.
We
should
never
underestimate
how
life-changing
is
to
have
us
at
home-
that's
future
accessible
for
somebody
that
relies
on
it.
My
mother,
in
a
lot
of
years
as
a
wheelchair,
and
I
know
the
challenges
she
faced
so
you
know,
I
would
like
to
hear
your
views
on
the
five
percent
and
it's
connected
probably
to
the
next
paper
as
well.
K
Thanks
for
your
question,
mcpherson,
I
mean
it's
a
minimum
target.
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
for
us
is
that
a
lot
of
sites
have
already
been
designed
that
haven't
yet
been
built
out
and
it's
hard
to
change
things
that
have
you
know,
master
plans
or
things
that
have
gone
to
planning
already.
So
that
can
be
difficult
for
terms
of
the
council.
K
But
it's
also
a
concern
to
me
that
there's
not
enough
wheelchair
housing
or
not
enough
specialist
provision
being
provided
by
the
private
sector
either,
and
I
think
that
places
a
pressure
on
the
social
rented
sector
to
provide
that
because
it's
not
something
the
private
sector
is
routinely
developing
and
I
think
that's
it's
a
great
concern
for
me
in
that
area.
But
I
acknowledge
your
concerns
and,
as
I
say,
it
would
be
a
five
percent
minimum
target.
R
Yeah,
can
I
come
back
in
a
few
points
if
it's
even
right
in
relation
to
the
private
sector,
there's
no
planning
conditions
that
we
can
enforce.
Currently,
you
know
they
can
make
builders.
Do
that
and
and
the
reason
they
don't
do
it
bungalow,
then
they
eat
up.
Probably
two
plots
to
land
you'll
have
two
mid
terraces
house
on
them.
It's
something
that's
in
the
construction.
I
know
that's
the
case.
R
We
can't
do
that
with
either
planning
legislation
or
building
standards
legislation,
but
I
think
we
should
be
a
trailblazer.
We
should
be
set
an
example.
We
shouldn't
really
need
to
go
far
beyond
the
five
percent.
I
think
that
background
papers,
I
saw
there's
going
to
be
a
huge
unmet
demand.
You
know
if
we
only
even
meet
five
percent,
so
you
know
it's
a
cause
of
real
concern
to
me
that
and
then
so
you
know,
let's
just
see
what
scottish
government
going
forward.
Now
I've
been
emailed,
I'm
asking
we
should
be
introducing
legislation
to
do
that.
R
You
know
because
unless
we
can
force
developers
to
do
it
through
planning
planning
the
regulations
or
about
regulation,
they
just
won't
do
it
and
they
never
have
done
it,
for
the
very
reasons
are
stated.
So
this
is
a
really
important
issue
and
you
and
I
are
going
to
walk
tomorrow
and
cartoon
state
and
batman
where
the
council
has
about
you,
know
the
wheelchair
and
accessible
homes
and
it
transforms
people's
lives,
and
you
should
never
underestimate
that.
A
I
Me
yeah,
I
was
just
to
follow
up
in
councillor
mcpherson's
point.
The
the
new
national
planning
framework
that
draft
it
was
issued
on
the
10th
of
november,
make
specific
reference
to
local
strategies,
informing
that
in
the
way
forward,
and
I
think
the
opportunity
exists
there.
They
mentioned
bringing
forward
evidence,
reports
and
local
strategies
to
address
these
inequalities
gaps
or
specialist
gaps
as
well.
So
I
think
an
opportunity
exists,
and
I
think
I'm
sure
chris
and
mark
lear
will
be
able
to
support
some
further
discussion
on
that.
A
C
Thank
you,
jim
just
two
points.
One:
following
on
from
council
mcpherson's
point
about
the
wage
wheelchair
accessible
to
what
degree
do
we
ensure
that
our
standard
properties
are
easy
to
convert
if
needed
or
as
and
when
needed,
from
a
point
of
view
of
making
sure
we
put
in
door
width
openings
that
are
compatible
with
wheelchair
access
for
simple
things
in
the
basic
design
that
can
make
later
conversion
much
simpler
and
easier?
It's
one
question.
I've
then
got
a
question
about
the
future
development
program.
K
Thanks
for
your
question,
counselor
earl,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we
meet
at
a
certain
standard,
we're
required
to
meet
a
certain
standard
called
the
housing
for
varian
needs
standard.
This
standard
is
up
for
review,
but
the
scottish
government
at
the
moment
potentially
to
be
increased.
It's
not
a
standard
that
is
applying
to
the
private
sector.
Q
Yeah,
craig
whiteman,
prompting
private
sector
housing
manager,
housing
services,
yes,
steven
explained
as
a
condition
of
scottish
government
brand.
All
new
build
properties
have
to
meet
this
housing
for
varying
needs
standards,
and
that's
exactly
what
it
says
on
the
tin
that
should
a
future
occupier
of
one
of
our
new
build
social
rented
properties
need
adaptations,
whether
it's
for
wet
floor
showers
on
the
ground,
floor,
low
threshold,
entrances
at
front
front,
front,
doors,
etc.
That's
already
built
in
so.
Q
Q
Q
There
will
be
two
ground
large
ground
floor
flats
and
that
will
be
fully
wheelchair
accessible,
and
that
includes
also
the
kitchen
units
as
well,
so
that
you
have
a
rise
and
fall
and
kitchen
units
to
allow
people
and
wheelchair
users
to
be
able
to
live
independently
in
those
in
those
properties.
So
there's
two
standards
that
all
have
to
be
at
least
meeting
the
housing
varying
needs
standards.
C
Thank
you
thanks
greg,
that's
interesting
and
helpful
yeah.
My
other
point
was
just
page
2.9
67,
jim's
kind
of
come
at
this
from
a
land
supply
use
as
well,
but
it's
just
to
get
a
feel
from
yourself,
stephen
and
any
other
relevant
officers
that
the
program
going
forward
on
this
ship
feels
less
secure,
potentially
than
than
it
has
been
in
forward
years.
K
Thanks
for
your
question,
counselor
earl,
you
know
there's
a
number
of
opportunities.
There
are
a
number
of
sites,
some,
as
I
said
before,
it
does
somewhat
rely
some
of
these
sites
on
the
health
of
the
of
the
housing
market
in
terms
of
willingness
for
developers
to
take
on
and
build
out
the
bigger
sites
such
as
south
stirling
gateway
and
jury's
hill
east
fill
in
and
so
on.
K
So
those
are
helpful
in
terms
of
getting
the
numbers
up
and
if
they
don't
come
forward
as
quickly
that
could
have
an
impact
in
terms
of
our
numbers,
we
are
always
willing
to
look
at
other
opportunities.
We
may
you
know,
there's
things
that
we
could
do
to
potentially
mitigate
against
some
sort.
It's
not
coming
forward.
We
could
increase
our
second
home
acquisitions.
K
We
could
be
looking
at
other
sites
generally
the
issue
for
us
that
we
can't
really
go
out
into
the
market
and
buy
buy
land
on
open
market
for
market
rates
because
it
becomes
prohibitively
expensive
for
us
to
develop
out.
I
would
say
that
the
biggest
threat
to
the
to
this
program
isn't
the
necessary
availability
of
land.
K
At
the
same
time,
there's
a
heightened
standards
for
us
to
to
to
address,
such
as
having
fire
suppression
systems
and
a
move
towards
more
zero
emissions
housing,
and
these
are
important
and
useful
things,
but
it
does
place
some
strain
on
us
in
terms
of
being
able
to
deliver
housing
which
are
which
are
cheap
enough
for
us
to
buy
and
rent
and
keep
our
rent
still
low.
However,
grants
that
grant
levels
have
been
increased
by
the
scottish
government
to
partly
mitigate
against
cost
increases
as
well.
I
Sorry,
it's
just
to
follow
on
from
what
stephen
said
there
counselor
ellen,
that
I've
spoke
to
a
number
of
the
developers
through
working
with
the
planning
service
and
and
and
they
are
very
focused
on
delivering
developments
that
are
in
the
sterling
area.
Development
viability
is
a
a
significant
concern
for
them,
and
they've
been
willingly
having
open
conversations
about
what
they
need
to
do.
I
I
I
I
would
say
that
where
things
have
got
more
complex
and
we've
involved
our
colleagues
from
legal
services
to
support
the
discussions,
because
they
are
often
complex
and
the
challenges
and-
and
you
know
the
view
of
the
developer
is
not
always
the
the
fairview
and
how
we
might
approach
it.
We'll
also
look
have
to
look
at
our
our
policies
and
approaches
as
well.
I'd
be
happy,
you
know.
If,
if
you
have
specific
instances,
please
raise
them
with
us.
I
You
know
directly,
because
I
think
this
you
know
that
type
of
feedback
is
useful
as
well
and
we'll
aim
to
provide
clarity.
Obviously
some
of
these
developments
are
there.
The
section
75
discussions
would
need
to
remain
confidential
and
things
like
that,
but
you
know
that
feedback
that
you're
getting
as
well
would
be
useful
to
the
service
yeah.
E
You,
if
of
the
questions
that
I
have
already
been
addressed,
but
I
have
one
question:
what's
the
anticipation
at
the
end
of
this
time
that
the
waiting
list
for
for
houses,
council
and
for
other
providers
will
be
up
or
down
or
about
the
same?
So
what's
the
impact
on
this?
Can
I
have
excuse
me
on
the
waiting
list.
K
Thanks
for
your
question
against
the
tolemash,
I
think
it's
it's.
It's
important
to
note
that
that
the
first
couple
of
years
of
of
the
current
seven
at
the
current
700
homes
target
it
was
quite
slow
progress.
Some
of
the
big
sites,
such
as
rap
block,
were
taking
a
while
to
to
really
start
on
site
and
get
going,
and
so
on
now
we're
in
a
really
positive
year.
Where
we've
got
you
know
several
hundred
affordable
housing
units
coming
forward.
K
That
will
really
help
movement
on
the
waiting
list
really
help
us
with
level
of
homeless,
households,
waking
timber,
accommodation
and
so
on.
The
important
thing
is,
as
far
as
to
have
a
consistent
supply
of
affordable
housing
coming
out
year
on
year
in
in
sites
across
sterling,
and
if
we
can
keep
doing
that,
I
would
I
would
foresee,
as
potentially
bringing
the
the
waiting
list
down
slightly,
but
I
can't
foresee
it
being
significant.
O
Thank
you
chair.
I
was
encouraged
by
gregor
whiteman's
explanation
about
the
use
of
wheelchairs
and
accessibility
etc,
which
kind
of
has
encouraged
me.
It
was
more
than
five
percent
was
being
being
achieved.
I
was
going
to
ask
why
what
implication
does
it
have
if
we
built
more
houses
that
were
wheelchair,
accessible,
I.e,
just
broader
doorways,
for
instance,
because
from
what
mcgregor
was
saying,
some
of
the
the
the
housing
are
already
equipped
with
underfloor
plumbing,
etc
ready
to
be
used
if,
if
required?
O
K
O
K
You,
thanks
for
your
question,
councillor
houston,
a
couple
of
points
to
them
to
provide
a
bit
more
information
on
there
in
terms
of
our
standards.
We
do
find
that
that
some
wheelchair
users
can
make
use
of
our
lower
cottage
flats
a
lot
of
the
lower
cottage
flats
that
we
build
and
we'll
put
wet
floor
showers
in
and
if
we
don't,
they
can
be
easily
adapted
for
a
wheelchair
user.
So
not
every
wheelchair
user
will
require
a
wheelchair
house
standard.
You
know.
So
there
is
that
flexibility
there.
K
I
suppose
the
biggest
barrier
for
wheelchair
users
in
a
standard
sort
of
end
terrorist
house
is
really
the
stairs.
Although
you
can
put
a
through
floor,
lift
in
it's
still
not
it's
not
perfect
solution
but,
as
I
say,
for
the
stock,
where
we
were
building
a
significant
number
of
cottage
floor,
cottage
flats
or
bungalows,
which
aren't
the
wheelchair
standard,
they
may
well
still
be
perfectly
suitable
for
a
number
of
tenants
that
could
have
specialist
provision
requirements
in
terms
of
what
our
intent
is
about:
zero
emissions
homes.
K
It's
a
fair
point.
It's
a
good
question.
You
know
we
are
already
building
very
highly
energy.
Efficient
housing
at
the
moment
you
know
they're
among
the
most
energy
efficient
housing
being
built
in
sterling
at
the
moment,
gregor
whiteman
could
probably
give
us
a
bit
more
detail
on
that.
I
would
say
we're
already
meeting
a
very
high
standard
and
I
think
our
intention
will
be
to
increase
that
standard,
potentially
by
use
of
a
fabric
first
approach
to
properties.
So
that's
increasing
the
insulation
levels
further.
K
We
do
have
some
concerns
that
using
that
type
of
technology
could
increase
the
level
of
fuel
poverty
because
the
running
costs
are
higher
than
gas,
central
heating
and,
additionally,
we're
aware
that
most
of
the
boilers
being
fitted
today
are
easily
converted
to
use
for
hydrogen.
So,
if
we're
building
out
sites
now
and
we're
not
fitting
the
gas
network
in
and
hydrogen
becomes
the
favored
energy
source,
it's
very
expensive
to
then
retrofit
gas
to
effect
gas
or
hydrogen
into
the
grid.
Q
Yeah
science,
cricket
whiteman's,
prompting
private
sector
housing
manager
and
in
terms
of
the
standards
we're
achieving
not
only
for
our
new
builds,
but
also
for
an
existing
stock.
I
mean
we're
way
ahead
of
every
other
registered
social
landlord,
we're
already
sitting
at
near
enough
60
of
our
stock
meeting
the
new
standard
that
all
social
landlords
have
to
meet
by
2032
and
that's
a
minimum
energy
performance
certificate
rating
of
b
or
above,
and
that's
where
it's
deemed
that
the
energy
efficiency
rating
of
a
property
is
removed
as
a
driver
for
for
fuel
poverty.
Q
So
that's
been
our
first
approach.
The
second
approach
is
that
where
the
housing
service
itself
leads
on
the
design
of
new
builds,
we
are
already
playing
about
with
new
values
and
for
properties
whereby,
as
steven
said,
it's
a
fabric
first
approach.
So
by
increasing
the
the
energy
efficiency
of
the
walls,
the
floors,
the
roofs,
you
then
reduce
heat
demand.
So,
whilst
you
may
still
be
putting
in
gas
boilers
at
this
stage,
the
amount
of
gas
required
to
comfortably
heat
a
home
is
significantly
lower
than
it
would
be
for
housing
stock
from
1960s
1970s.
Q
There's
different
interpretations
as
to
how
that
is
interpreted
so,
for
example,
all
our
new
bills
that
we're
delivering
just
now
are
all
achieving
a
very,
very
high,
a
rated
standard
and
the
calculated
environmental
impact
rating
of
those
properties
is
actually
negative.
So
we've
completely
offset
any
carbon
in
those
properties.
Q
R
Just
a
couple
of
quick
things
here:
I
think
that
is
achieving
zero
in
social
housing.
That
others
are.
I
don't
think
that
you're
just
knowing
that
the
zero
emission
of
the
social
housing
task
task
force
report
came
at
the
end
of
august,
so
you
know
I
was
going
to
discuss
a
later
future
meeting
with
housing
officials
august
very,
very
interestingly.
Now
we're
going
to
achieve
that.
But
so
greg
is
right.
There
significant
challenges
and
there
were
pushing
new
housing
down
the
road
off
those
heat
pumps.
R
I've
tried
to
couple
myself
over
the
last
few
years
and
our
expensive
to
run
and
get
that
and
do
the
quiet
maintenance,
but
definitely
ahead
and
and
I've
been
in
contact
with
brian
roberts
over
there
the
super
villains
jurors.
However,
they
want
to
bring
gas
in
there
for
the
3200
houses
up
there.
So
I
know
the
hydrogen
that
you're
not
easily
converting
but
sending
the
wrong
messenger.
R
You
know,
if
you
don't
have
the
the
the
amount
of
house
number
you
know
to
put
in
something
even
more
technology
and
more
zero
zero
achieving
that
than
bringing
gas.
And
you
know,
it's
just
just
beg
your
belief
that
they
want
you
to
do
that.
You've
got
economies,
it's
still
like
three
thousand
few
hundred
houses
to
bring
in
something
a
bit
different.
It
sets
on
coal
geothermal.
R
So
there
are
believe
me,
you
know
I'm
trying
to
drive
forward
change
as
well,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
see
if
stephen
clark
mentioned
that
right
about
not
being
able
to
force
ourselves
to
put
in
more
youtube
housing.
But
what
are
these
other
sides
of
what
to
realize
is
that
the
council
gives
them
one
hr,
a
land
to
build
houses
on
that
form
of
penance
money.
R
R
You
know
I've
spoken
to
the
officials
in
the
past
that
once
that's
done
in
register
orlando
register
and
actually
put
on
the
planning
schedule
to
let
people
see
we've
managed
not
to
extract,
but
you
know
what
we
actually
achieved
through
our
developer
contribution
supplement
plan
gaining,
so
you
know
that
we
will
all
be
at
the
negotiations
of
private.
The
end
result
should
be
published
in
the
planning
schedule.
R
A
You,
okay
thanks
steven.
I
won't
ask
you
to
respond
to
that,
but
I
think
you
you've
picked
up
the
point
about
rsls
and
we
have
representation
on
both
rural
sterling
and
fourth.
So
perhaps
that's
that's
where
we
ought
to
be
pushing
that
right,
no
more
hands!
We're
asked
to
approve
this
report.
Are
we
content
to
put
it
forward
for
submission?
A
K
Thanks
chair,
so
this
report
provides
some
detail
on
our
proposals
to
develop
new
build
council
housing
in
synanians
section.
One
of
the
report
notes
that
this
land
is
owned
by
the
housing
revenue
count
and
we
previously
had
tenement
flats
built
here
in
the
1950s
which
were
knocked
down
as
part
of
regeneration
activity
in
this
area
around
15
to
20
years
ago.
K
K
Section
two
of
the
report
explains
officers,
have
considered
the
options
for
the
site
and
feel
the
development
of
this
site
for
council
housing
is
the
best
option,
given
that
there
is
high
demand
for
social
housing
in
this
area.
Section
2.3
shows
that
we're
looking
at
building
40
properties,
mainly
homes
with
a
range
of
house
types
and
sizes,
including
homes
suitable
for
wheelchair
users.
The
report
also
explains
that
we'll
need
to
apply
for
planning
permission
to
build
homes
here,
and
we
would
then
appoint
a
builder
through
external
procurement.
L
K
Steve,
I
think
I
think
it
was
something
that
counselor
earl
had
raised.
I
think
there
was
maybe
an
issue,
because
it's
quite
a
complex
plotted,
pdf
document
that
it's
maybe
not
been
picked
up
by
the
printer
and
it
is
available
electronically.
If
you
click
on
the
the
electronic
link,
it
should
be
visible
with
that
method,
or
I
can.
Alternatively,
I
can
forward
it
to
you
as
a
pdf
following
the
meeting.
K
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
I've,
no
no
hands
up
to
ask
questions
of
this.
I
mean
it's
a
good
news
story,
more
council
houses
getting
built
and
nice
sites
as
well.
So
we're
asked
to
approve
the
development
and
second,
to
note
that
the
future
procurement
will
come
back.
Are
we
content
with
that?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
steven
for
your
your
input
over
those
last
few
items
and
move
on
to
item
11
order
of
malta,
dialer
journey
update.
S
That'll,
be
me
chair,
david
hopper
service
manager
for
a
sustainable
development
public
transport.
This
report
is
requested
by
committee
to
give
an
update
the
performance,
the
services
provided
by
order
malta
dial
a
journey
over
this
over
over
this
year.
An
appendix
one
contains
some
detailed
statistics
on
the
performance.
S
T
Yeah
jim,
it
was
just
a
highlight
for
the
purposes
of
the
record:
it's
not
registerable
interested
in
that
sense,
but
a
declarable
interest
rather,
but
obviously
there's
a
registered
interest
on
the
council's
nominated
board
member
on
order
a
multi-dialer
journey.
So
it's
just
to
make
that
clear
for
transparency.
L
S
U
Hello
rob
plus
a
public
transport
team
leader
yeah,
then
anyone
who's
can
register
by
following
the
the
link
on
the
the
website.
So
it's
open
to
anyone.
Who's
got
mobility
issues
who
have
problems
accessing
normal
and
regis
bus
services,
so
maybe
they've
got
need
a
wheelchair
or
have
a
walking
frame,
and
so
on
and
they'll
assess
the
application
form.
C
S
U
Yeah,
so
it's
it's
on
our
web
pages,
so
we
can
direct
people
towards
that.
It's
just
on
the
general
public
transport
pages,
where
it
talks
about
finding
information
on
on
public
transport
and
also
expands
to
the
the
additional
services
through
taxicard
or
or
or
the
dialer
journey
services.
In
addition
to
that,
it's
it's
promoted
through
through
dialog
journey
themselves.
U
U
I'm
I'm
not
fully
versed
in
what
they
do
to
promote
it.
However,
I
can
give
additional
information
on
dialog
journey
have
been
involved
in
the
the
vaccination
system,
with
vaccination
transport
throughout
the
pandemic
and
they've
had
new
new
users
through
that
that
have
become
members
because
of
the
service
they've
received
getting
to
and
from
vaccination
appointments
they're
also
looking
at
additional
agreements
with
the
the
care
partnership
and
they'll
be
promoted
through
that
as
well.
E
Thank
you
convina.
What
way
does
dialect
journey
communicate
with
its
members
potentially
are
not
on
the
internet
and
do
not
have
what
way
does
it
communicate
with
them?
What
changes
possible
to
services,
conditions
and
things,
and
is
there
a
regular
communication
like
a
newsletter
to
them
that
you
receive
I'm
just
interested
if
the
numbers
are
to
return?
U
E
A
Yeah
on
that
very
point,
robert,
there
was
a
time
I
did.
I
did
see
on
notice
boards
and
I
think
it
was
current
in
community
council,
but
I
have
no
recollection
of
of
that,
still
being
posted,
but
given
the
numbers
are
down
because
of
the
the
pandemic,
and
it
might
be
that
we
ought
to
be
promoting
this
more
okay.
A
S
Yeah,
that's
me
again:
I've
got
angela
haney
on
the
call
who's.
The
author
of
the
report
can
answer
any
questions,
so
their
support
asked
for
approval
of
the
council's
annual
sustainable
sterling
report,
which
we
are
obligated
to
pull
together
and
send
to
scottish
government
on
an
annual
basis,
part
of
our
public
duties.
It
covers
the
year
from
april
2020
to
march
2021.
S
Over
this
period,
emissions
estimate
are
estimated
to
have
reduced
by
eight
point
three
percent
compared
with
the
previous
year,
taking
our
total
reduction
to
almost
fifty
percent
since
the
baseline
year
of
two
thousand
six
seven.
This
represents
an
average
annual
reduction
of
our
emissions
of
around
three
point.
Six
percent
that,
if
maintained
into
the
future,
would
see
the
council
meet
its
annual
emission
reduction
target
of
seventy
five
percent
by
twenty
thirty.
S
E
S
I
Yeah
very
nicely
senior
manager
for
infrastructure,
yet
council
ptolemas
the
the
consumption's
reviewed
in
a
lot
of
detail.
It
obviously
contributes
to
that
report,
so
the
data
on
a
pair
building
basis
is
available.
I
would
also
note
that
the
the
service,
the
infrastructure
service,
are
commissioning
more
detailed
energy
assessments
on
all
our
properties,
who
obviously
have
epcs
for
those
that
I
think
are
over
250
square
meters.
I
I
think
for
the
larger
properties,
and
but
these
energy
assessments
are
aligned
with
the
expected
work
that
we'll
have
to
do
in
line
with
the
scottish
government's
heat
and
building
strategy.
So
that's
you
know
this
is
our
initial
base
preparation
for
how
we're
going
to
bring
these
up
or
contribute
towards
the
next
euro
target.
E
Removed
the
reduction
of
3.6
when
we're
heating
our
buildings,
whilst
more
people
are
working
from
their
own
properties
from
home,
but
could
part
of
the
3.6
reduction,
be
the
fact
that
we
haven't
been
heating
our
buildings
to
this?
The
same
extent
that
we've
had
before,
and
if
that
is
the
case
to
then
do
an
extrapolation
that
is
3.6
reduction
in
a
period
when
the
buildings
and
other
things
like
we
probably
haven't,
used
our
transport
as
much
as
we
normally
do.
S
S
So
yes,
there
is
quite
a
significant
drop
this
year,
largely
related
to
the
pandemic
and
and
and
related
issues,
but
I
I
believe
we
still
had
to
heat
our
properties.
So
whilst
gas
has
come
down
to
some
extent
in
in
in
buildings-
and
they
still
have
to
continue
to
heat
properties-
and
I
think
I'm
writing
saying
angela-
that
we've
we've
have-
we
captured
the
corresponding
energy
consumption
and
relating
to
and
working
from
home
up
angela's
on
the
call.
V
Hi
angela
heaney
senior,
sustainable
development
officer,
yeah,
there's
a
there's,
a
new
figure
that
we've
been
asked
to
include
in
this
year's
report,
which
is
on
page
1
130
homework
emissions,
it's
a
factor
that
is
based
on
number
of
staff
working
from
home,
and
I
think
it
was
the
carbon
trust
brought
together
this.
This
factor
clearly
there's
a
lot
of
averaging
and
assumptions
made
in
there
and
it
takes
into
account
commuting
and
average
properties,
etc,
etc.
V
But,
as
david
already
mentioned,
we
were
still
having
to
heat
buildings
and
we
actually
saw
an
increase
in
gas
use
of
emissions
from
gas
using
of
three
and
a
half
percent,
and
some
of
that
will
be
down
to
having
to
open
windows
because
of
the
corona
virus.
So
we
were
actually
heating
buildings
more
and
also
some
biomass
boilers.
There
were
some
issues
there,
so
we
were
having
to
use
gas
backup
boilers
as
well.
E
Okay,
if
I
think
of
that
and
my
last
question
is
about
procurement
and
the
amount
that
we're
trying
to
do
when
we
do
procurement
that
we
take
in
carbon
usage
from
the
suppliers,
we
have
into
account
that's
my
question
there.
So
is
that
is
that
thing
that
we
look
at
and
and
we
to
try
and
get
reduction
from.
S
That
the
these
are
essentially
our
emissions
from
immediate
day-to-day
operations,
so
they
don't
factor
in
embedded
carbon
in
our
products
directly
and
that's
a
piece.
That's
a
progressive
piece
of
work
that
we
need
to
do
and
work
closely
through
our
procurement
strategy
so
that
we
are
encouraging.
Suppliers
to
you
know,
embed
low
carbon
ethics
into
their
their
service
designs,
and
it's
there's
a
big
journey
on
this,
as,
as
you
will
appreciate,
councillor
tolmash,
and
but
these
are
direct
emissions
that
we're
measuring
at
this
stage.
W
Jim
my
question
relates
to
page
136
the
paragraph
two
about
improving
understanding
of
flood
risk
and
specifically
the
bit
about
stress,
blame.
It
says
the
flood
study
for
stress
blaine
identified
in
the
clyde
and
loch
lomond
frn
plan
commenced
in
2020.
Currently
at
the
end
of
stage,
one
great
further
data
gathering
will
take
place
until
summer
2022
with
gauges
and
cameras
being
placed
at
strategic
locations.
Now
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
concern
locally
about
surface
water
in
station
road
and
blaine
crescent,
particularly
during
rainstorms.
S
G
Thanks
david
thanks
councillor
for
the
question:
it's
bruce
ricky
senior
manager
for
environment
and
place,
and
certainly
that
that
was
the
plan
and
to
put
engages
in
cameras.
I
know
that
some
of
the
work
has
been
delayed
at
council
richardson,
but
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
get
an
update
from
the
the
team
in
terms
of
the
time
scale
for
their
implementation
and
come
back
to
you.
R
R
Yeah
thanks
chair,
that
is
page
one,
four,
five,
it's
probably
for
angela,
this
one
and
the
table
here.
The
industrial
and
commercial
you've
got
the
co2
emissions
and
I've
all
had
a
long-term
interest
in
the
the
northern
border
and
now
rest
ways
are
planned
and
kevin.
So
angela
david
did
you.
Let
me
know
how
we
actually.
V
Yeah,
this
is
data
that
is
compiled
by
you,
wealth
on
behalf
of
uk
government
and
so
and
it's
always
two
years
behind
by
the
time
it's
been
reviewed
and
agreed
the
analysis
we
don't
have
access
to
the
detail
of
the
analysis.
Unfortunately,
so
a
number
of
consultants
are
involved
in
pulling
together
the
data
on
a
whole
range
of
factors.
R
Okay,
thanks
for
answering,
can
I
come
back
and
and-
and
it's
probably
not
relevant
to
this
paper,
but
a
really
important
issue
here
is
to
do
the
other
emissions
from
factories,
especially
the
one
that
I've
mentioned
in
canada
for
the
residents
of
alpha
staff
that
suffered
dust
pollution
on
a
daily
basis.
Still
so
I
think
going
forward.
You
know
I
would
like
to
see
an
air
quality,
monitor
and
paper
of
a
future
committee
meeting
in
here.
I'll
tell
you.
R
And
and
the
reason
being,
you
know
an
awareness
from
somebody
at
that
meeting
that
during
covert
steeper
or
not
as
proactive
as
they
were
previously
about
monitoring
the
things
been
followed.
Now,
that's
an
allegation.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
true,
but
it
concerns
me
that,
during
cover
the
sheep
officers,
weren't
going
out
there
and
monitoring,
so
you
know
that
concerning
the
allegations
I
must
emphasize,
but
let's
bring
forward
the
paper
and
air
quality
and
all
right
super
glass
of
residence
and
brain
of
the
same
issue
there
we
need
to
be.
R
A
S
We
did
and
we
did
put
in
the
temporary
air
quality
monitoring
systems
and
our
intention
ultimately
because
they
are
not
that
they're
not
measuring
to
the
standard
that
the
eu
directive
requires
and
they're,
not
part
of
our
kind
of
our
our
formal
responses
back
to
government.
But
there
is
an
intention
to
develop
an
air
quality
strategy
and
very
I'm
not
clear
on
the
absolute
time
skills
of
that.
But
I
know
that's
a
piece
of
work.
It's
discussed
in
our
management
team.
Perhaps
true
can
give
a
timeline
on.
I
It
yep
through
leslie
senior
manager
for
infrastructure.
We
we
have
an
officer
that
was
looking
at
that.
Unfortunately,
that
offers
ourselves
sick
at
the
moment,
and
we
will
probably
need
to
bring
an
external
resource
to
support
that
piece
of
work.
But
it
is
a
priority
area
in
the
environmental
health
teams
work
plan,
so
I'll
come
back
around
when
that
would
come
forward.
Councillor
thompson.
R
Throughout
the
world
that
can
cause
nasal
cancers
and
such
and
and
that's
been,
the
experience
of
people
and
killing
the
past
they've
always
accused
that
fact
that
causing
cancers
now
that's
never
ever
been
substantiated.
So
you
know
I
contact
professor
andrew
and
he's
not
backing
me.
So
what
I'm
doing
a
piece
of
work
with
him
and
I'm
not
an
area
using
do
not,
but
I
really
do
think
that
we,
you
know
we
really
need
to
focus
more
on
other
people
in
carmen,
as
well
as
carmen.
A
Drew
I
won't.
I
won't
expect
you
to
answer
that.
I
think
councillor
mcpherson
raises
some
relevant
points
and-
and
I
do
know
that,
as
you
said,
there
was
issues
about
greyhead
recently.
Now
it
is
zipper's
role,
but
we
have
a
part
to
play
and
I
think
we
we
can.
We
have
that
discussion
offline,
please
and
see
how
we
move
this
forward.
Yeah.
C
Thank
you
just
a
general
question.
I
suppose
I
mean
welcome.
Welcome
the
report.
It's
thorough.
It
shows
another
progress
reduction
in
the
emissions,
but
I
mean
as
we're
all
aware
that
the
fruit
is
getting
higher
and
higher
to
pick
off
the
tree,
and
we
can't
expect
this
kind
of
linear
decrease
to
continue.
C
I
suppose
my
question
question
is
is
at
what
point
do
we
have
the
difficult
conversation
collectively
about
the
capacity
and
cost
to
pursue
further
reductions
when
set
against
the
direct
emissions
for
the
council
are
only
two
to
three
percent
of
the
area
wide.
What
what
point
do
we
have
that
discussion?
Because
it's
surely
one
we're
going
to
have
to
have.
A
Well,
that
that,
in
part
is
why
we've
declared
a
climate
emergency
and
we
we
do
have
that
working
group
looking
at
that
very
thing,
you're,
absolutely
right,
so
we
are
doing
our
bit.
But
how
do
we
get
the
public
and
businesses
locally
to
to
join
in,
but
I'll
I'll
invite
david
and
angela
to
see
what
we're
doing
at
the
minute
and
how
we
move
this
forward.
S
But
now
we
realize
we
have
to
get
our
sleeves
rolled
up.
That's
been
very
apparent
in
the
last
two
weeks
discussions
at
cop26.
This
is
now
about
taking
some
quite
challenging
decisions,
particularly
around
transport
and
energy
they're.
The
two
key
areas
and
energy
is
now
going
to
start
to
focus
on
heat
management.
That's
a
big
big
piece
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
the
development
heat
management
systems.
S
The
statute
coming
through,
as
we
speak,
on
putting
more
pressure
on
local
authorities
to
look
to
look
at
that
renewables
against
coming
back
on
the
scene
and
and
how
affordable
renewables
are
energy
efficiency.
As
we've
talked
about
in
previous
papers,
there
is
a
big
big
piece
and
fundamentally
that's
what
we
should
be
looking
at.
First
and
foremost,
and
and
on
the
transport
theme,
which
has
always
been
the
challenging
one,
we
have
seen
limited
improvements
on
transport
over
the
last
20
years.
S
S
S
C
You
it's
it's
just.
I
want
to
try
and
get
a
feel
for
this,
because
indirect
and
direct
emissions
and
enabling
and
facilitating
from
this
local
authority's
point
of
view
is,
can
become
increasingly
the
important
thing
to
do,
and
we
cannot
continue
to
chase
direct
emissions
reductions
when
they
only
equate
to
two
to
three
percent
of
the
total
when
it
gets
beyond
practical
capacity.
C
To
do
so,
we
have
to
direct
our
fire
to
our
wider,
enabling
role
through
our
policies
and
our
interventions
to
make
sure
that
there's
much
bigger
reductions
in
the
especially
in
the
two
key
areas.
You
talk
about
david
and
I
just
I
don't
want
us
chasing
our
tail
unnecessarily.
To
be
honest
with
you,.
T
I
thought
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
to
get
first
bus
to
get
first
bus
on
on
board
or
rather
off
board
in
so
I've
written
some
to
say
you
know,
we've
got
ambitions,
for
you
know
municipal
public
transport.
Here
and
you
know,
can
you
know?
Are
they
going
to
be
open
to
negotiations
with
council
officers
to
explore
the
possibilities
of
services
in
our
area?
T
That
would
be
a
great
thing
to
me
to
raise
that
more
to
be
a
comment
rather
than
a
question
to
david,
because
you
know,
I
know
that
ambition
would
be
shared
with
the
officers
as
much
as
it
would
be
shared
and,
I
think,
actually,
probably
both
counsellors.
I
would
hope
anyway.
You
know
that
we
do
get
that
that
kind
of
great
provision
for
sterling.
So
it
may
be
a
crisis,
but
I
would
also
want
us
to
lose
that
opportunity
to
to
better
public
transport
for
sterling.
S
Chair,
if
I
could
just
jump
in
quickly,
I
know
it
wasn't
a
question
but
just
to
highlight
the
point
that
we
and
that's
absolutely
our
intentions
and
and
agree
with
the
sentiments
of
councillor
gibson.
The
the
one
holding
factor
at
the
moment
is
the
guidance
that's
coming
out
following
the
act,
the
2019
act,
to
allow
municipal
authorities
to
develop.
We
await
that,
hopefully
for
the
early
part
of
next
year,
and
then
we
can.
E
It's
a
comment
just
I
could
I
really
agree
with
councillor
gibson.
What
would
be
possible
if
it's
appropriate
is
an
immediate
briefing
for
all
of
the
counsellors
on
what's
happening
with
the
bus
services
in
sterling
I
mean
that
is
an
important
thing.
We
all
have
constituencies
who
are
stranded,
who
don't
get
the
buses?
E
There's
almost
a
thing
that
the
bus,
okay,
that
okay,
the
services,
will
be
restricted
kind
of
further.
We
have
reports
of
people
not
being
able
to
go
to
doctors,
appointments
and
all
things,
and
I
think
it's
such
a
crisis-
and
I
think
the
word
we
can
use-
is
a
crisis
here.
So
please
can
we
have
some
kind
of
briefing
with
all
right
actually,
with
all
the
counsellors.
Please.
S
A
I
can
imagine
the
amount
of
work
that
has
to
go
into
it,
but
we
get
this
annual
report
and
it's
very
helpful
to
see
how
we
are
managing
and
page
one
to
seven
the
the
trends
in
the
right
direction,
which
is
good
always
the
point
has
been
made:
it's
it's
partly
impacted
by
covert
this
year.
Okay,
thanks
very
much
if
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
item,
designation
of
local
nature
conservation
sites,
is
it
guy?
That's
dealing
with
this
one.
B
M
So
the
paper
presents
recommendations
to
approve
the
procedures
for
the
designation
of
local
nature
conservation
sites
and
to
agree
to
commence
the
process
of
designating
17
sites
within
the
area
covered
by
the
adopted
local
plant
plan.
These
sites
are
shown
maps
one
a
way
of
background
local
nature
conservation
sites
identify
locally
important
natural
heritage,
and
they
also
offer
greater
protection
against
the
impact
of
development
and
the
designations
themselves.
Do
not
excuse.
M
Thank
you
I'll
do
that.
Thank
you
concert
just
in
terms
of
the
policy
context.
Scottish
planning
policy
sets
out
that
local
plan
authorities
have
a
duty
to
further
the
conservation
of
biodiversity
and
in
responding
to
this
duty,
the
local
development
plan
commits
to
the
identification
and
protection
of
local
nature
conservation
sites,
and
it's
also
worth
noting
that,
within
the
the
council's
draft
alive
with
nature
plan,
there's
also
a
commitment
in
there
to
designate
sites
where
appropriate
and
so
yeah
happy
to
take
any
questions
may
have.
R
You
know
it's
a
significant
of
interest
to
me
and
a
triple
s
I,
in
a
fourth
landscape
of
being
involved.
Your
snh
involved
butterfly
conservation,
scotland
involved
because
of
large
heat
butterflies
and
the
the
photos
were
contained
within
the
line
from
nature
plan
and
one.
But
I
don't
see
it
listening,
you
know.
So
why
is
that
the
case
mark
that
one's
missed
out?
Despite
the
fact
we
used
a
photographic
to
publicize
this
alive
of
nature
plan.
M
X
Hello,
everybody,
guy
hairwood
biodiversity
officer
for
sterling
council
yeah,
so
for
bing
and
westermoss
are
considered
two
separate
sites.
Western
moss
is
not
included
in
the
list
of
local
nature
conservation
site
designations
because
it
is
already
a
triple
s.
I,
and
that
designation,
holds
more
weight
and
gives
more
protection
than
a
local
designation
would
so
the
decision
has
been
taken.
I
should
say
that
the
designation
of
these
sites
is
done
in
line
with
a
nationally
nationally
agreed
process
which
has
local
variations
applied
to
it.
X
So
at
national
level
it's
decided
that
where
any
a
designation
already
exists,
you
don't
add
a
local
designation
to
it.
So
that's
why
west
moss
is
not
in
there
for
lin.
Bing
is
down
on
the
longer
list,
I
believe,
of
potential
sites,
but
the
vast
majority
of
the
data
that
goes
into
the
assessment
of
these
local
nature
conservation
sites
is
gathered
by
volunteers,
and
so
we
designate
as
and
when
the
data,
the
biological
data
is
available,
and
I
would
assume
without
knowing
for
sure
that
the.
R
C
Yeah,
thank
you
jim.
Thank
you
guy
mark
for
this
interesting
paper.
I've
got
a
few
questions
about
it.
How
does
this
designation
sit
in
the
hierarchy
of
relevant
designations
that
can
be
used?
It
talks
about
this
being
across
the
entire
council
area
by
twenty
thirty.
A
hundred
designated
sites
is
that
a
hundred
designated
sites
of
this
type
or
various
types
of
designation
and
how
does
that
sit
with
the
ones
within
the
national
park
area
that
I'm
assuming
the
national
park,
have
the
responsibility
for
designating?
C
What
does
this
mean
for
the
landowners?
Is
there
any
financial
implications?
Does
it
open
up
funding
opportunities
and
do
we
have
the
power
to
put
this
in
place,
or
does
it
have
to
be
assessed
by
another
body
to
say
that
the
the
biodiversity
range
is
of
sufficient
type,
or
is
this
a
self-assessment
process.
X
Okay,
I
was
scribbling
down
the
questions
as
they
were
coming,
but
I'll
probably
miss
some.
So
tell
me
if
I
don't
cover
everything
you
asked
them
so
the
landowners
there
are
no
implications
for
landowners.
It's
it's
in
terms
of
hierarchy
this.
This
is
a
planning
designation,
it's
done
through
the
planning
authority.
So
there
is
a
distinction
between
the
area
that
is
within
the
sterling
council
planning
authority
in
the
area.
X
Mark
might
be
able
to
say
a
bit
more
on
this,
but
it
is
referenced
in
national
planning
guidance
that
these
should
have
a
lesser
protection
than
triple
s
eyes,
but
should
still
be
given
some
weight
when
it
comes
to
the
protection
of
the
natural
environment
through
the
planet
system,
so
they
don't
place
any
implications
or
obligations
on
landowners
in
terms
of
finance.
It
is
hoped-
and
there
is
work
going
on-
to
try
and
link
the
enhancement
of
these
designated
sites
to
the
new
rural
payment
system.
X
He
asked
also
about
the
assessment,
so
the
assessment
is
done
in
partnership
for
our
area
with
twit,
which
is
the
wildlife
information
center,
which
is
the
biological
record
center.
That
covers
this
area
and
they
have
the
procedures
in
place.
They
have
the
the
data
and
the
data
management
processes
in
place
to
ensure
that
the
data
that's
used
is
as
robust
as
possible.
X
You
know
the
botanical
society
for
the
british
isles,
the
bsbi
and
others,
and
they
ultimately
put
a
recommendation
to
the
council
as
to
whether
they
deem
the
site
to
be
worthy
of
designation.
The
council
then
has
to
decide
whether
to
designate
it
or
not,
and
that's
that's
what
this
paper
really
focuses
on
at
the
moment.
There
are,
I
think,
it's
17
on
there
that
the
volunteers
have
assessed
as
worthy
of
designation.
C
N
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
more
questions.
We've
got
four
recommendations
on
page
171.
I
won't
go
through
them,
but
I
think
we
will
agree
to
to
support
this
moving
forward.
Okay,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
this
meeting.
Can
I
thank
you
all
for
attending
and
as
usual,
thanks
to
michelle
for
making
it
all
run
smoothly.
Councillor
earl,
you've
got
your
hand
up.
C
C
H
Thanks
convener
thanks
for
the
question
councillor,
brian
roberts,
chief
operating
officer
for
infrastructure
and
environment.
So,
as
chair
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
the
meeting
in
council
arrow,
the
the
paper
that's
tabled
was
originally
supposed
to
come
in
september.
There
are
some
matters
that
aren't
adequately
covered
in
that
paper.
I'm
conscious
that
there's
an
exempt
part
of
that
paper,
so
I
don't
want
to
obviously
say
too
much
in
the
public
forum,
but
there's
elements
and
they
need
to
be
confirmed
around
the
light.
H
So
it
would
certainly
be
the
officer
position
that
we
would
recommend
to
fill
in
the
paper
until
the
next
meeting,
which
hopefully
there's
a
special
being
arranged
for
december.
So
that
would
allow
us
time
to
address
that
issue
and
make
sure
that
the
committee
have
full
information
for
for
visibility
and
accountability.