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A
B
D
B
E
Is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Board
of
Adjustment
acts
on
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing?
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
criticized
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
confidence
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
A
E
B
B
We're
allowed
to
deviate
from
the
order
on
the
agenda
for
extraordinary
purposes.
If
say,
anybody
has
any
sick
children
at
a
home
or
needs
to
catch
a
plane.
Please
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
try
and
make
certain
arrangements
for
you,
but
right
now
the
order
is
first
is
Athens.
Place
Apartments,
which
is
just
west
of
city
hall
by
the
Pinellas
Trail,
then
Seabreeze,
Drive
variants
and
last
is
variants
Sunset
Beach.
So
anybody
have
any
problem
with
that
order
of
the
agenda
all
right.
F
Evening
board
members
louis
Serna,
with
calvin
Giordano
and
Associates
consultant
for
the
planning
department
presenting
staff
comments.
This
application
is
to
authorize
a
three
part
variance
lotin.
This
property
is
located
in
transect
t4c,
it's
to
allow
for
parking
within
the
first
tier
of
the
district.
It's
to
allow
for
the
dumpster
to
be
located
within
the
second
tier
and
to
reduce
the
minimum,
require
a
minimum
requirement
of
5
feet
between
stormwater
ponds
and
the
property
lines.
F
F
This
applicant
was
granted
a
variance
for
the
same
three
requests
in
December
of
2016.
The
variance
expired
in
June
on
June
28th
of
2019.
The
the
staff
report
does
include
a
typo
there.
It's
not
December
of
this
year.
It's
June
28th
of
2019,
our
we
have
reviewed
this
for
the
criteria
for
granting
variances
and
I'll
just
go
through
them
briefly.
F
The
first
is
that
the
request
of
the
very
earth
arises
out
of
the
physical
surroundings,
shape
topographic
conditions
of
the
property.
Again,
this
parcel.
This
variance
is
a
result
of
the
parcels
covering
multiple
Lots
and
including
multiple
Street
frontages.
We've
included
there
that
it
includes
four
Street
frontages,
which
makes
it
challenging
for
the
compliance
with
the
special
area
plan
districts.
The
conditions
are
special
special
circumstances.
I
have
not
been
self
created
or
not
the
result
of
actions
by
the
applicant,
the
stuff.
F
F
Doing
littoral
enforcement
will
the
third
criteria-
literal
literal
enforcement
of
the
requirements
of
the
code,
will
have
the
effect
of
denying
the
applicant
reasonable
use
of
the
property
we
have
found
based
on
the
dump
because
of
the
Doster
location
requirements
in
the
parking
that
it
would.
Compliance
with
those
strict
regulations
because
of
the
multiple
street
frontages
would
make
the
development
not
feasible
and
would
be
a
hardship.
F
The
stormwater
pond
setback
as
well
would
significantly
reduce
the
developable
area
of
the
site,
which
would
make
the
development
unfeasible,
and
we
cannot
find
a
code
rationale
for
the
5-foot
setback
there
as
well.
So,
and
then
the
fourth
criteria
is
a
granting.
The
variance
will
not
confer
any
special
privileges
that
it's
not
allowed
for
other
lands
or
buildings.
F
The
granting
of
the
variance
would
not
confer
special
privilege
on
the
property
they
would
not
be
allowed
for
other
lands,
buildings
or
structures
in
the
same
zoning
district
for
the
same
type
of
unified
development
and
finally,
granting
of
the
variance
will
not
substantial
well,
that's
substantial
diminished
property
values
in
the
surrounding
areas.
Again,
this
is
a
sort
of
development
that
is
envisioned
in
the
special
area
plan
and
it
would
not
result
in
negative
into
impacts
to
surrounding
property
values.
B
F
I'll
do
my
best
the
transect.
The
special
area
plan
is
divided
into
transects,
which
are
basically
depending
on
the
type
of
development
and
density
and
intensity
of
development.
It
governs
the
type
of
development,
the
form
of
development,
basically
not
so
much
the
uses,
but
the
form
of
development,
it's
as
far
as
Street
setbacks
and
where
buildings
should
be
placed
and
height
and
bulk,
and
things
like
that.
That's
how
the
track!
That's
that's
how
the
transects
are
laid
out,
the
tiers,
unlike
conventional
zoning
and
the
rest
of
the
code,
rather
than
having
minimum
setbacks.
F
The
transect
district
has
maximum
setbacks
or
bill-to
lines,
so
the
buildings
should
generally
be
oriented
towards
the
road
with
parking
behind
it
and
dumpsters
and
and
accessory
uses
behind
it,
and
that's
where
to
talk.
That's
where
it
mentions
the
tiers.
Now
that's
sort
of
a
an
explanation
of
what
is
sort
more
of
a
visual
sort
of
code,
but
basically
these
these
regulations
govern
placements
of
those
features,
and
that
is
what
the
the
variance
request
is
for.
F
B
From
my
understanding
in
the
past,
the
transect
is
like:
there
are
a
series
of
concentric
circles
around
a
center
of
a
building,
let's
say
and
then,
as
you
go
further
away
from
the
building,
then
the
transects
change
or
the
tiers.
It's
not
a
vertical
type
of
separation.
It's
horizontal
regulations
are
different
depending
on
how
where
you
are
away
toward
the
periphery
of
the
property.
F
Yeah,
generally
speaking,
that
the
building
should
be
prominent
along
the
road
parking
should
be
secondary
and
that's
where
it
talks
about
the
second
tier
and
then
parking
and
dumpsters,
and
things
like
that
should
be
further
in
in
later
tiers.
I,
guess
that's
a
simpler
explanation,
and
because
of
all
the
street
frontages
with
this
development,
it
makes
it
hard
to
meet
those
requirements
with
the
building,
always
in
the
prominent
along
the
roadways.
Okay,.
B
B
H
F
H
I
It's
very,
very
difficult
with
our
engineer
and
there's
a
couple
of
issues
that
have
not
quite
been
cleared
up
and
at
some
point
we
decided
not
to
do
the
development
because
it
was
just
becoming
more
and
more
complex
and
then
we
changed
our
minds
and
figured
let's.
You
know,
go
ahead
and
go
ahead
with
the
project
so.
H
I
Haven't
been
any
changes,
it's
the
challenges
of
the
site,
it's
very
challenging
there
you
have
and
as
it's
progressed
quite
frankly,
it
seems
like
every
time
we
would
have
a
meeting.
Something
else
would
be
brought
up.
Well
now
we
have
to
face
and
bring
this
up
and
bring
this
up.
So
what
we
were
doing
is
continually
creating
the
cost
on
that
development
more
and
more
to
develop
it,
and
so
that's
when
we
said
you
know
what.
Maybe
it's
not
the
right
thing
to
do.
G
You
mentioned
that
there's
some
drainage
challenges
that
you're
currently
working
on
correct.
Yes,
so
on
the
one
part
of
the
variance
request
where
it's
requests
regarding
the
five-foot
minimum
setback
between
the
stormwater
pond
and
the
property
line,
what
does
this
variance
request
were
you're
requesting
for
it
to
go
from
a
varying
width
of
100
one
and
a
half
feet
to
5
feet
along,
but
that
length
of
that
pond?
How
does
that
impact?
Or
what's
the
relationship
between
this
variance
request
and
those
challenges
you're
facing
with
drainage?
None.
I
I
B
A
E
Can
but
I'm
gonna
say
before
you
answer
and
you
feel
free.
Obviously
you
can
offer
testimony,
but
whether
or
not
he's
gonna
have
enough
for
stormwater
drainage.
It's
gonna
be
a
question
for
the
building
department
and
potentially
Swift
mud
depending
upon
how
large
it
is
to
get
to
get
his
drainage
and
his
other
permitting
done
out.
D
I
Asked
you
can
I
ask
a
question
once
again:
what
is
the
relevancy
to
that
to
the
request
for
the
variance
anything
what
I
do
has
to
be
approved
by
the
building
department,
or
we
can't
do
it
well,
the
other.
Let
us
do
it,
I
mean
we
have
our
swift
mud.
Permit
that's
been.
We
have
that
in
place.
There's
just
a
couple
of
points
in
there
that
we
have
to
get
through
with
the
city
engineers
to
finalize
the
site
plan.
E
E
I
J
Nice
principal
planner,
just
a
quick
clarification.
The
site
plan
has
been
approved,
the
applicant
isn't
a
building
permit
stage.
There
are
some
details
being
worked
out
with
the
drainage;
it
does
not
affect
the
layout.
So
what
the
site
went
plan
was
approved
with
those
conditions,
that's
that
the
drainage
details
be
worked
out.
So
this
is
the
site
plan
that
has
been
approved.
Thank
you.
B
E
B
F
F
This
lot
was
planted
in
1951
as
a
part
of
the
Seabreeze
Island
subdivision
and
the
residence
was
constructed
at
the
site
was
constructed
in
1972
prior
to
prior
to
the
current
setback
requirements,
because
the
principal
structure
does
not
meet
the
minimum
side
setback
requirements,
it
is
considered
a
non-conforming
structure.
The
applicant
survey
shows
a
curt
setback
of
7
feet
on
the
west
side
of
the
existing
house
and
a
setback
a
7.5
feet
on
the
east
side.
Therefore,
the
current
non-conforming
setbacks
are
minimum
of
7
feet
and
a
total
setback
of
fourteen
point
five
feet.
F
The
applicants
have
indicated
they're
proposing
this
garage
on
the
front
of
the
existing
house.
They've
indicated
that
the
side
yard
variances
are
required
in
order
to
align
the
proposed
garage
with
the
side
edge
of
the
existing
house
and
to
avoid
blocking
an
existing
window
along
the
front
of
the
house.
F
They'd
also
noted
that
the
garage
is
being
built
over
the
location
of
a
previous
location
of
a
carport
that
was
removed
for
safety
reasons
earlier
this
year,
against
staff
hasn't
reviewed
this
for
compliance
with
the
review
criteria
for
granting
variances,
and
we
find
that
it
does
meet
the
criteria.
The
the
variance
is
primarily
due
to
the
narrow
width
of
the
lot
and
that
it
was
a
lot
was
created
prior
to
the
current
zoning
setback
requirements
and
the
house
was
built
prior
to
the
Sounion
setback
requirements.
F
B
B
B
B
B
F
Application
is
for
our
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
rear
yard
setback
from
30
feet
to
15
feet
and
to
reduce
a
minimum
side.
Street
setback
from
15
feet
to
12
feet,
11
inches
for
the
construction
of
a
single-family
residence.
This
property
is
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Shore
Drive
and
Tallahassee
Drive.
F
The
applicant
was
granted
a
variance
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
for
this
property
from
30
feet
to
20
feet,
which
is
the
the
same
variance
being
requested
on
in
2015.
The
variance
expired,
second
variance
for
the
same
request
was
granted
and
made
24th
of
2017.
The
six-month
extension
of
this
variance
was
granted
on
May
22nd
2019.
F
The
applicant
is
currently
requesting
a
variance
due
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
from
30
feet
to
15
feet
so
I'm.
Sorry,
it
is
a
different
variance
request
in
the
rear
and
to
reduce
a
side
street
setback
from
a
minimum
of
15
feet
to
12
feet.
11
inches
the
applicant
has
reduced
the
footprint
area
of
the
proposed
single-family
residence
from
the
previous
proposal.
However,
the
the
revised
building
design
will
require
a
small
encroachment
into
the
side
street
setback
for
the
proposed
for
a
proposed
privacy
wall.
F
That
is
really
a
structural
component
of
the
building
and
therefore
requires
variance
the
requested
variances
are
needed
for
the
construction
of
the
residents,
primarily
due
to
the
irregular
shape
of
the
property.
This
lot
was
created
in
1924
as
a
part
of
the
HC
Clark
subdivision
plat
and
therefore
is
a
legal
non-conforming.
A
lot
of
record
and
again,
we've
reviewed
this
application
for
the
criteria
for
granting
variances
and
find
that
it
does
meet
the
criteria.
F
The
variance
is
primarily
due
to
this
irregular
shape
of
the
law
is
24
feet
wide
at
one
end
at
90
feet
wide
at
the
other
end.
So
again,
this
has
gone
for
previous
variances
to
build
on
this
irregularly
shaped
lot,
so
it
that
is
a
unique
hardship
with
this
site
and
again,
this
law
is
was
legally
created
back
in.
K
B
G
Maybe
just
a
point
of
clarification
because
we're
talking
about
the
the
rear
yard
and
side
yard,
sometimes
on
these
irregular
shaped
Lots,
it's
like
where's
your
ear,
where
your
side
so
requesting
the
15
foot,
rear
setback.
That's
and
this
schematic
here.
That's
this
part,
that's
sticking
out
here!
Am
I
correct?
Yes,.
L
G
G
L
The
rear
phases-
and
this
encroachment
is
what
we're
talking
about
the
box.
Where
you
have,
we
also
have
a
we
are.
You
also
have
a
rear
version
of
this,
and
it
gives
a
little
bit
deeper
and
dimension
wise
and
show
a
lot
more
detail,
but
that
is
the
only
encroachment
as
far
as
the
real
property
goes.
H
L
H
L
L
M
Don't
know
how
to
say
how
ugly
that
picture
is
and
I
don't
want
to
look
out
my
front
door,
my
windows
at
it
every
day,
plus
now
you're
going
for
less
setback,
you're,
going
back
to
a
pre-war
40
years
ago
to
a
house.
You
can
DIMP
and
had
torn
down
and
you're
going
to
put
another
house
right
back
in
the
same
place,
where's
the
sense
in
this
and
then
you're
coming
up
with
this
this
house.
It
doesn't
fit
anything
into
neighborhood
I,
don't
understand
how
we
can
allow
this.
M
A
E
And
as
I
said
before
this
board,
only
the
only
thing
this
board
can
do
is
take
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
it
to
the
criteria
in
the
code
of
ordinance
and
determine
whether
or
not
the
applicant
qualifies
for
a
variance
whether
or
not
what
the
aesthetic
appeal
of
the
building
is
or
or
whether
someone
likes
it
or
not,
is
not
relevant
to
this
application.
And
that's
something
that
is
determined
if
by
anybody
through
the
building
permitting
process.
M
M
B
M
G
M
H
I
could
answer
that
one
for
you,
we
don't.
We
don't
make
the
decision
on
what
your
request
is,
whether
it
be
good,
bad
or
indifferent.
That's
the
real
deal,
that's
just
in
a
nutshell,
so
you
could
give
us
the
the
bomb
of
an
answer
and
we're
still
gonna.
Just
look
at
you
because
there's
nothing
else.
H
We
don't
make
decisions
on
medic
things
at
all
and
we've
had
this
with
other
cases
where
people
have
filled
our
audience
because
they
didn't
want
a
gas
station
in
the
town
of
Tarpon
and
we
couldn't
make
a
decision
whether
we
wanted
or
didn't
want
it.
It's
does.
It
fall
within
our
criteria.
Then
it's
a
go.
If
it
doesn't
fall
within
our
criteria,
then
it's
a
no-go,
and
it's
just
that
simple
but
I'll.
Listen
to
you
say
it
again.
Well,.
M
G
M
H
D
N
N
N
N
N
They
went.
The
concrete
wall
like
he
said
and
does
that
conform
to
people
walking
their
dogs
going
to
Sunset
Beach
by
encroaching
on
the
public
space
on
the
variances?
How
does
that
help
the
neighborhood
when
he
purchased
it?
He
knew
there's
people
here
that
looked
at
it
to
buy
it
and
said
its
non-conforming
I
wouldn't
take
that
gamble,
there's
nothing
you
can
put
on
it,
but
I
have
seven
cards
of
every
time
that
he's
trying
to
keep
changing
and
keeps
going
through.
I
went
through
the
neighborhood,
with
my
husband
and
neighbors.
N
We
got
a
petition
sign
from
three
streets.
Only
one
day,
66
signatures
of
the
neighbors
that
don't
want.
The
variance
has
changed.
They
had
to
follow
the
setbacks.
They
had
to
go
by
the
codes
on
every
single
Street
and
there's
three
people
that
couldn't
make
it
tonight
that
were
denied
things
they
wanted
to
do
on
their
property
or
things.
But
here's
the
codes,
here's
the
variances
you
deal
with
it.
N
Now
he
says
you
have
to
find
a
builder
where
geez
I
think
the
guy's
is
a
builder
and
as
far
as
a
hardship
he's
claiming
a
hardship
to
change
this,
because
it's
the
long
conforming
lot
because
he
wants
to
build
his
dream
home.
That's
what
he
said
in
the
first
application.
Okay,
I
have
on
Zillow
before
it
was
taken
down
he'll.
N
My
allergies
are
back.
So
please
forgive
me
now
when
he
shows
this
picture
of
the
house.
I
have
no
problem
with
people
build,
but
you
follow
the
law.
Just
like
everybody
else.
My
father
was
building
a
Family
Center
at
the
church.
They
had
wetland
areas,
he
had
to
plant
75
trees
and
put
water,
and
you
know-
and
it
wasn't
even
their
property-
to
intake
to
take
three
trees
down
I.
N
So
I
don't
know
how
the
rules
can
change
for
somebody
else.
Knowing
you
know,
here's
your
space,
you
have,
if
I'm,
if
I
have
a
living
room
when
I
go
to
get
furniture,
I'm
not
gonna,
sit
and
get
an
entire
room
full
of
furniture.
You
have
to
measure
your
wall
and
say:
okay.
This
is
what
you
can
put
in
it
period
and
he
knew
it
and
he's
just
using
the
law,
the
hardship
law
to
say
my
dream
home
when
he's
gonna
sell
it
and
I
just
think
it's
unfair
yeah.
N
Let's
far
as
this
bump
out
in
the
back
for
his
variance
in
the
backyard
two
setbacks
Bruce's
home,
his
backyard
is
Bruce's
front
door.
That's
his
living
room
window
that
he
wants
to
that
point.
Is
it
directly
in
his
living
room
window?
That
is
his
view
that
he
will
see
on
his
door.
It's
gonna
be
bad
enough.
If
there's
a
house
there,
but
can
you
imagine
it
being
for
me
to
hurt
for
me
to
here
15
feet?
I,
don't
think
it's
to
you!
I
think
it'd
be
right
here.
If.
L
A
N
N
It's
not
bad
enough
that
you're
not
getting
your
30
feet
in
you're,
going
20.
Okay!
Now
you
want
15
feet,
and
now
you
want
to
encroach
further
into
the
main
road.
So
when
you're
coming
down,
Tallahassee
Drive
all
you're
going
to
see
you
know
you
have
nice
uniformed
homes
like
this
and
all
you're
gonna
see
is
a
big
box
that
can
weigh
out
encroaching
on
the
main
view.
N
E
E
N
E
E
N
Then,
if
you're
standing
outside
your
front,
porch
and
you're,
looking
down
the
street
and
you're
looking
at
the
Gulf
and
you're
paying
taxes
for
that,
Gulf
View
for
years
and
I'm
talking
60
years
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
you're
gonna,
look
at
like
this
from
your
driveway
and
you've
got
a
building,
encroaching
it's
not
enough.
You
know
it's
gonna
be
built.
Okay,
it's
still
I,
don't
hear
what's
afoot,
you
look
at
all
the
trees
growing
down
there
all
right
they
used
to
put
it.
We
used
to
put
our
canoes
right
there.
N
E
Get
up
and
they
can,
if
they
can
demonstrate
that
they
have
an
affected
party
status,
then
they
can
speak.
They
have
the
right
to
ask
questions
of
the
applicant.
They
have
the
right
to
ask
questions
of
staff
and
they
have
the
right
to
present
evidence
either
expert
testimony
or
their
own
testimony,
but
otherwise
it's
public
equipment
and
public
comment
is
not
does
not
bear
on
whether
or
not
a
variant
should
be
granted
or
not.
I.
H
H
H
N
H
N
H
H
Is
you
said
that
this
gentleman
that's
building
this
house
knows
that
this
was
going
to
be
what
you
call
an
eyesore,
but
Bruce
would
have
had
to
know
that
when
he
built
his
house
and
made
his
house
that
the
front
door
was
going
to
be
facing
something
right,
so
I'm
trying
to
clarify
your
comment
to
this
gentleman
about
how
he
knew
this
was
an
eyesore
Bruce
had
to
know
that
he
was
going
to
have
something,
as
he
called
mr.
monstrosity
built
there
correct.
M
H
Right,
let
me
answer
that,
for
you,
that's
why
we
have
bored
you
and
yes
you're
correct
as
far
as
the
correct
setbacks
for
permit.
But
what
we
do
here
is
we
look
at
the
extenuating
circumstances,
particularly
with
a
property
like
this
they're
entitled
to
build
on
it,
whether
it's
a
monstrosity
or
not,
whether
you
like
it
or
not,
and
what
I'm
looking
at
honestly
is
not
a
15-foot
setback.
I'm
looking
at
a
corner
of
it
is
sticking
out
so
its.
G
E
Can
I
interrupt
here?
That's
not
and
I
know
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
that's
not
relevant
to
this
application.
What
was
there
before
what
you
have
a
right
to
a
view
you
do
not
any
of
that.
That's
not
relevant
I'm,
just
gonna
ask
just
for
the
purposes
of
the
record.
We
need
to
stick
to
the
criteria
and
evidence
that
is
relevant
to
the
criteria.
Okay,.
A
A
E
G
E
Can
bear
him
in
when
he,
sir,
before
you
begin
I
just
need
to
swear
you
and
do
swear,
affirm
that
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
us
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
And
if
you
could
just
state
your
address
for
the
record
as
well.
So
we
can
make
sure
you
are
an
affected
party.
C
O
Creed
I
have
a
question
about
the
rendering
that
rendering
is
nothing,
that's
actually
going
to
be
built
right.
There's
no
guarantee
that
you're
building
that
right,
your
thing
you're
talking
about
building
it.
So
so,
let's,
if
you
take
that
box
that
you
have
on
there
rendering
and
you
set
agree-
approve
this
setback,
then
anybody
gives
in
he
can
next
week
say
well,
wait
a
minute!
O
I
want
to
build
right
to
that
corner
all
the
way
to
the
box,
because
the
setback
will
be
approved
by
you
all
so
I
have
the
feeling
that
could
be
what's
happening
here
and
there's
no
guarantee
that
he's
gonna
build
this
rendering
and
he
did
and
these
architects
and
all
these
other
people
that
are
involved.
We
don't
really
know
anything
about
that
so,
but
I
was
just
wondering:
there's
no
he's
not
required
to
build
that
exact
rendering.
O
So
if
you
approve
those
variants,
he
can
build
right
to
that
corner
of
the
box
that
this
gentleman
was
talking
about
right
here
and
that
house
will
then
look
when
you
come
down
the
street.
It
will
clearly
set
out
from
the
rest
of
the
street
as
you
come
down
Tallahassee,
and
the
second
question
is:
why
is
sure
Drive
the
front
of
the
house?
Why
isn't
Tallahassee
at
the
front
of
the
house,
like
all
the
rest
of
the
houses
on
the
street.
P
O
G
E
O
B
L
B
L
B
P
P
I've
seen
because
I
seen
the
sign
go
up
in
the
past
and
it
was
went
up
and
got
another
extension
on
the
variance
to
put
the
house
on
with
the
setback
on
closer
to
the
neighbor's
property.
I
understand
that
they
have
no
complaint,
but
now
I
see
the
sign
pop
up
and
I'm
there
Oh
women
now
we're
gonna
expand
it
again.
P
My
question
to
the
board
is
that
is
this
the
only
house
design
that
can
fit
on
this
property
or
where
was
the
design
of
the
first
house
that
was
going
to
be
up
the
footprint
that
could
have
fit
there,
that
we
gave
the
original
variance
on
now
all
of
a
sudden
you're
asking
for
an
extension
of
another
way
with
the
variance,
because
we
want
to
put
a
so
well,
maybe
bigger
structure
or
something
are
you
gonna?
Is
that
part
of
the
issue?
Well?
Could
I
could
a
property
house
fit
on
the
property?
G
Far
as
what
could
fit
on
the
property
that
that
would
be,
you
know,
for
the
applicant,
but
I
do
see.
You
know
in
our
notes
here
that
the
this
design
that's
before
us
today
does
indeed
have
a
smaller
footprint
than
the
plan
that
was
submitted
with
the
variance
two
years
ago.
So
this
is
a
smaller
footprint,
so.
E
Can
I
clarify
that's
not
necessarily
true,
so
this
board
doesn't
issue
permits.
All
this
board
does
is
take
the
evidence.
That's
presented
and
look
at
seven
criteria
and
say
doesn't
meet
these
criteria
in
order
to
vary.
What's
in
the
code,
then,
if
the
variance
is
approved
that
hurt
the
applicant
has
to
then
go
through
the
permitting
process,
there's
no
guarantee
that
that
project
will
ever
get
permitted
because
there's
other
things
that
have
to
be
considered
in
steps
to
go
through.
Most
people
come
to
the
variance
board.
E
E
P
So
I'm,
here's
what
I
got,
though,
before
this
board?
Okay,
my
car
I'm,
just
common
sense
person.
Okay,
if
we
had
the
original
variance,
you
gave
it
out
and
we
were
gonna
build
a
structure
there.
We
just
you
know
for
some
reason
or
another:
it
just
kept
getting
dragged
on
and
on
pushed
out
because
it
could
be
fermented
permitting
financial.
It
could
be
some
reason
why
it's
been
put
out.
So
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
coming
back
and
hey
I'm
gonna
go
for
a
different
variance.
P
If
why
would
you
guys
approve
the
first
variance
if
you
couldn't
the
property
on
it
in
the
first
place
and
the
permitting
when
it
now
this
is
going
on
for
years?
So
I
might
not
even
be
any
of
your
responsibility,
but
if
this
has
been
going
on
for
years
so
that
first
pot
had
it
gets
somewhere
along
the
permitting
property
who
gets
a
variance
and
waits
two
three
four
years.
G
P
My
question
really
is
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
really
gonna
have
you
guys
have.
The
responsibility
is
if
another
structure
is
gonna
fit
on
that
property,
with
the
original
variance,
I
would
say
that
we
have.
We
should
keep
within
those
guidelines,
not
say
hey,
let's
just
stretch
the
variance
this
way
now
in
this
way,
because
we
got
a
different
design,
we
should
try
if
something
can
fit
in
that,
and
you
guys
are
all
pretty
smart.
You've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time.
I
bet
that
you've
seen
a
lot
from
what
I'm.
P
Listening
to
the
first
couple
and
listening
to
you
talk
and
everybody
else,
you
guys,
you
know
what
you're
doing
okay
but
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
on
a
common-sense
approach.
Why
we
have
to
expand
this
one
out,
and
this
doesn't
I
live
nearby,
but
it's
not
like
my
window.
Hey
I,
expect
to
have
neighbors
but
I'm
just
trying
to
feed
common
sense.
This
should
have
been
taken
care
of
in
the
first
time
now
we're
coming
back
and
trying
to
expand
it
and
then.
H
Concerns
me:
let
me
answer
your
question
for
you.
We
deal
with
every
single
variance
as
each
as
it
is
its
own.
So
last
week,
last
month,
last
year
or
ten
years
ago,
you
could
bring
a
case
here
and
say
somebody
as
a
six
foot
fence
and
we
could
deny
the
six
foot
fence
and
you
could
say
but
look
you
gave
it
to
somebody
else
that
has
no
bearing
on
us
whatsoever
so
in
to
answer
your
common
sense
with
common
sense.
That's
not
how
we
make
our
decisions
each.
P
H
That's
being
brought
up,
this
is
to
us
we'll,
ask
questions
about
what
happened,
because
we
want
to
see
that
things
are
not
just
sitting
there
and
and
lollygag
as
they
say,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
a
determination
of
how
we
make
our
decisions.
We
have
to
make
our
decisions
according
to
the
evidence
that
the
client
brings
us
and
the
people
in
the
neighborhood.
P
H
G
H
Have
public
input
do
we
have
no
idea
and
we
don't
speak
on
how
the
permit
department
gets
done,
but
we
have
to
speak
about
whether
this
fills
all
the
criteria.
We
have
our
criteria
here
that
we
read
and
we
have
the
response
to
it
and
if
it
jives
with
all
of
those
criteria,
it's
a
go.
Unless
somebody
could
come
in
here
and
explain
why
one
of
these
are
not,
and
it's
not
a
cosmetic
thing.
It's
not.
H
H
A
A
K
I
can
I
piggy
on
that
because
it's
similar
question
in
the
staff
analysis
it
says
under
4.
It
says:
granting
of
the
variance
requests
will
allow
construction
of
a
single-family
residence
that
is
generally
comparable
in
size
and
configuration
to
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
that's
what
he's
asking
so
in
your
opinion,
are
you
using
that
word
configuration
differently,
then
I
think
some
of
the
neighbors
and
the
size
and
the
structure
and
everything
the
aesthetic
is
very
different
to
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
K
F
F
Yeah,
that's
really
what
I
mean
by
compatible
and
consistent
with
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
conventional
design
house,
although
it
doesn't
look
aesthetically
like
other
houses,
it
uses.
You
know
right,
angle,
sort
of
development.
That's
you
know,
common
construction
technique
exactly
correct.
There
question.
Yes,.
A
A
E
And
I
believe
what
mr.
sir--no
just
said
is
character
in
the
in
the
planning
context
and
in
the
code
is
not
defined
as
aesthetics
it's
defined
as
the
size
of
the
property
it's
defined
as
how
the
property
is
built
that
it's
a
single-family
home.
That's
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Don't
see
that
that's
specifically
called
out
so.
G
F
F
B
P
Okay
I
understand
when
this
house
this
lot
was
bought.
We
knew
it
was
a
small
lot.
I
looked
at
it
myself,
okay,
I
knew
a
tiny
house
was
gonna
have
to
go
on
this.
If
I
bought
it
I
really
did
not
buy
it
and
I
bought
another
property,
but
I
understood
that
a
small
one
was
gonna.
Go
there
now
I
understand
about
the
variance
and
I
underst
I
got
this
thing.
They
learned
tonight
that
you
guys.
O
P
P
B
E
Q
That's
why
my
name
is
Richard
Renner
and
I
live
at
1706.
Gulf
Road
in
the
back
of
my
house,
is
right
on
Tallahassee.
Now
this
is
a
cobblestone
street,
a
brick
Street
that
I
don't
know
how
many
years
that
that's
been
there,
but
to
me
living
there.
It
seems
historical
and
I
love
it,
and
we
have
so
many
people.
I
heard
that
you
said:
there's
not
going
to
be
a
sidewalk
I
think
there
should
be
a
sidewalk
because
there's
one
there
now
there's
so
many
people
that
walk.
F
F
Q
Other
comment:
I'm
from
Ohio
and
I,
moved
here,
especially
to
this
town,
because
I
looked
around
and
it's
a
beautiful
place
to
live
and
I
like
how
the
city's
so
slow
I.
Just
it's
taken
me
to
get
a
permit
seven
months
now
to
just
to
put
in
a
Generac
generator,
okay
long
story,
but
anyway,
I
like
how
you
take
your
time
and
and
make
sure
that
these
things
are
right
before
you
approve
them.
So
that's
all
I'm,
hoping
you
look
at
this
and
I
know.
Q
G
If
I
can
it's,
when
I
saw
and
in
my
board
packet
that
this
picture,
because
I
to
live
on
a
brick
Street
of
homes
that
most
built
in
the
70s,
but
you
know
some
from
the
20s
on
up
and
we
have
a
home-
not
it's
not
my
home.
That
is
that
very
similar
kind
of
this
modern
sexy
type
of
you
know
concrete
and
glass
and
everything.
And
oddly
enough,
it's
like
the
primo
house
on
our
street
and
it
recently
sold
for
crazy
top
dollar.
No
complaints
for
me
on
our
property
value.
G
Q
That's
why
we're
our
neighbors
are
here
tonight,
because
you
know
we
want
to
keep
tarping
like
it
is.
We
don't
want
to
change
everything,
because
it's
one
of
the
greatest
places
to
live
there
is
right
ends.
Are
some
people
up
in
Panama
City
just
recently
and
they
said
we're
gonna
move
to
Florida
and
we
said
where
they
didn't
know
where
we're
from
they
said
Parkman
Springs
because
they
loved
it
so
much,
but
anyway,
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
N
Let
me
see
if
I
get
this
right,
you're
saying
that
in
any
applicant
can
come
in
and
ask
for
a
variance
on
setbacks
and
no
matter
what
they've
done
before.
So,
if
I
want
to
put
a
structure
in
this
big
and
I
get
approved,
we
could
nope.
We
want
variance
this
big,
and
now
we
want
this
big
and
it
can
be
accepted
and
it
has
to
be
accepted.
It's.
G
No
not
has
to
be
accepted.
You
can
put
in
as
many
applications
as
you
want.
This
lovely
family
up
here
that
had
an
application
that
was
put
in
that
was
approved
today
we
could
have
denied
it.
They
can
maybe
come
back
to
us
six
months
a
year,
two
years,
ten
years
down
the
road
and
they
want
to
do
something
else.
That's
another
application
for
another
thing.
Yes,
and
you
can
do
the
same
and.
N
D
G
H
Do
want
to
give
you
an
explanation
and
I
hope.
You
understand
a
number
of
months
ago
we
had
a
case
that
came
before
our
board
and
it
was
a
case
on
the
water
where
they
wanted
to
build
on
top
and
block
the
view
of
a
number
of
other
homes,
and
we
had
a
number
of
people
just
like
this
is
today,
and
they
all
complained
about
blocking
of
the
view.
We
are
not
in
charge
of
whether
the
person
is
going
to
block
the
view
or
not.
H
That
is
up
to
the
permit,
Department
and
other
people
to
decide
whether
we're
allowed
to
build
10
feet,
high
20
feet,
high
30,
feet,
high
or
etc.
We've
also
had
people
that
have
come
in
front
of
our
board
that
can
only
build
approximately
30
feet.
High
I
wanted
to
build
a
hotel,
40
or
50
feet
high,
and
they
got
turned
down
because
that's
again
something
we
cannot
deal
with
that's
above
our
pay
scale,
as
they
say
so.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
say
these.
H
Poor
people
are
sitting
there
and
they've
lost
their
view,
but
that's
not
something
that
we
can
deal
with
now.
If
it
was
where
they
were
encroaching
and
blocking
around
the
blind
turn
where
they
were
completely
blocking
somebody's
view
around
and
it'd
be
dangerous,
that's
something
that
I
would
look
at.
This
is
his
biggest
encroachment
is
in
the
back
of
the
house,
and
it's
only
a
triangle.
So
I
have
to
look.
N
H
I
understand
it,
but
it's
not
just
at
this
point
because
we're
going
to
make
a
stipulation
if
it
goes
in
his
favor
that
it
would
be
according
to
what
this
diagram
is
not
what
he
wants
to
build.
The
15
foot
setback
all
around
the
house
or
anything
else
like
that.
We
don't
just
approve
something
and
then
the
person
just
decides
to
do
whatever
they
want
all.
N
F
And
and
the
permitting
review
will
be
well
hold
them
to
the
requirements
of
the
of
the
variance.
So
there's
not
a
public
hearing,
because
the
review
at
that
point
is
really
just
for
review
to
meeting
the
Florida
standard,
Building
Code,
but
they
will
be
held
to
the
requirements
of
the
variance
and
any
conditions
that
are
attached
to
that.
The
review
will
include
compliance
with
those
conditions.
N
N
G
H
G
E
To
be,
it
has
to
be
a
hardship
of
the
land,
so,
like
I
said,
there
are
seven
criteria
that
have
to
be
met.
The
first
one
is
that
it's
that
there's
a
hardship
of
the
land
that
what
what's
reasonably
to
be
built
there
can't
because
of
you
know
the
most
common
I
think
it's
like
a
pie
shape
a
lot.
This
is
even
worse
than
that.
This
is
a
complete
triangle,
so
right
see.
H
Let
me
let
me
give
you
just
a
little
bit
more,
so
you
have
an
idea
if
the
homes
in
the
area
with
2,500
square
feet
and
he's
then
looking
to
build
something,
that's
five,
six,
seven
thousand
square
feet
that
would
not
fly
because
it's
just
ridiculously
you
know
he
doesn't
have
the
area
to
build
on
this
particular
lot.
When
you
look
at
it,
you
would
have
to
admit
it
is
a
very
small
lot.
H
We've
had
people
prior
explain
how
small
it
is
so
as
long
as
he's
not
building
something
that
we
heard
earlier
was
a
monstrosity.
He
was
saying
monstrosity,
as
is
a
eyesore,
but
it's
really
it's
just
the
biggest
thing
that
he
could
build
within
that
span.
So
I
know
you
don't
have
to
like
it
and
I
understand
that.
A
N
D
A
B
E
B
L
H
D
B
All
right,
Thank
You
mr.
Hoffman,
can
I
ask
you
the
question.
Bruce.
Can
you
come
up?
Your
your
building
sets
back,
looks
like
21
feet.
Your
side
yard
is
21
feet,
I
believe
it
is,
and
the
proposed
setback
of
this
building,
except
for
the
triangle,
is
going
to
be.
I,
can't
help
my
classes
on
20
feet,
20
and
123.
Oh,
that's
gonna
be
40
feet
away
from
your
building,
except
for
the
little
tricep.
M
M
G
M
G
So
if
you,
if
you
are
because
word
my
I'm
sorry
I
boss,
shuffling
my
paper
because
the
requirements,
the
code
requirements
in
that
area
is
for
the
side
yard
to
have
a
minimum
setback
of
ten
feet
with
a
total
of
25
feet
for
both
sides,
you
could
have
like
10
on
one
side
right
15
on
another
as
long
as
they
add
up
to
25,
so
you're
a
minimum
of
10
feet.
Yes,.
M
G
G
A
M
G
E
E
So
I
can
answer
that
question.
Maybe
these
are
under
findings
of
fact,
I,
don't
know
what
evidence
was
presented
without
looking
at
the
record.
What
evidence
was
presented
at
the
last
hearing
on
this
bit
on
the
this
variance
of
this
order?
Okay,
all
right
so
I'm
not
sure
these
are
the
findings
of
fact
of
this
board,
so
this
board
found
regardless
of
the
criteria,
found
number
seven.
So
that
was
a
determination
that
was
made
by
this
board
in
the
drafting
of
that
orden.
Of
that
order.
Oh,
can
we
get
that.
A
E
B
L
Believe
the
board
cleared
up
the
questions
that
I
was
going
to
bring
and
the
comments
that
I
would
make
which
I
appreciate.
My
client
has
worked
many
hours
on
this
with
many
people
over
the
last
four
or
five
years.
If
he
gets.
If
we're
approved,
he's
ready
to
go
into
design
permitting
and
hopefully
construction,
he
has
no
intention
of
changing
anything
I
believe
he
went
through
painstakingly
to
make
changes,
and
this
is
where
we,
this
is
what
we
arrived
to.
A
E
E
H
B
B
H
Well,
I
do
want
to
thank
everybody
for
everybody,
giving
their
opinions
and
their
thoughts
I
want
to
share
my
opinion
of
why
I'm
asking
for
the
approval
of
it.
As
we
read
all
of
these
findings,
of
fact,
at
least
I
am
reading
them
each
and
every
one
of
them.
This
particular
diagram
is
an
agreement
to
our
criteria
and
opinions
of
whether
this
thing
looks
monstrosity
or
not.
H
It
does
fit
within
the
criteria
that
we
have
to
decide
on
whether
it's
a
go
or
no
and
I
mean
I
could
read
you
each
section
of
it
if
you'd
like,
but
there's
nobody's
shown
any
persuading
fact
that
it's
not
whether
you
like
the
design
or
not
I'm,
not
here,
to
decide
that
it's
that's
not
what's
up
for
grabs
in
this.
It's
just
whether
this
fits
or
it
doesn't,
and
the
other
thing
is
I
would
like
it
to
be
a
Pete
appeasing
to
everybody.
H
H
Even
more
is
when
you
probably
come
before
our
board
complaining,
possibly
I'm,
not
saying
you
will,
but
on
these
two
other
areas,
because
that's
what
one
well,
whether
they
build
one
house,
so
they
build
two
houses
up
to
them,
but
you're
kind
of
like
sandwiched
in
there
as
I
can
see,
and
you
know
it
is
what
it
is.
So
that's
my
thing
now.
You
prefer.
B
B
No
public
access
I
mean
there's,
there
could
be
a
private
easement,
but
there
was
none.
These
none
mentioned
mr.
Hoffman's
property.
It
looks
for
the
survey
here
is
21
feet,
side
setback
on
the
west
and
the
proposed
applicants
is
16
feet
at
the
minimum,
more
like
20
or
25,
which
is
a
fairly
wide
distance
and
if
there's
a
problem
with
the
appearance
of
the
structure,
trees
are
a
great
way
to
visually
screen
properties
in
my
house,
there's
three
or
four
houses
around
me.
B
B
People
may
not
like
the
way
the
building
might
look,
but
again
it's
this
gentleman's
private
property
and
he
has
the
right
to
build
so
long
as
he
meets
the
building
code
and
the
building
code
does
not
address.
To
my
knowledge,
any
particular
aesthetics
I
could
say
a
lot
more,
but
I
won't.
So
that's
pretty
much
what
I
had
to
say
anybody
else
all
right.
Let's
hear
a
roll
call,
please
miss.
G
A
D
Q
D
E
B
H
H
B
K
B
B
Over
the
last
several
years,
we've
been
trying
to
get
a
common
sense
approach
to
the
Code
of
Ordinances.
You
missed
a
lot
of
that
and
that's
luckily
and
I
didn't
miss
it,
because
I
did
try
to
nail
me,
but
that
didn't
happen,
but
in
any
event
I
guess
I
had
friends
in
the
Ukraine
they
just
passed
a
motion
to.
Let
me
stay
I,
just
kind
of
made
that
out
that's
for
the.
B
They
they
they
were.
Apparently
the
regulations
did
not
make
sense,
like
our
regulations,
often
don't
make
sense.
In
particular
cases,
you've
been
trying
to
get
them
to
change
that
they've
refused
you.
Let
us
go
ahead
and
vote
the
way
we
want
to,
but
they
won't
change
the
ordinance
to
make
it
legal
in
a
sense
or
valid.
More
I
shouldn't
say
that
that's.
D
B
C
J
Is
discussions
and
I
would
say,
I
can
bring
that
back.
We
can
bring
that
back
the
next
meeting
or
you
can
contact
the
clerk
directly.
We
do
have
one
vacancy,
as
you
know,
mr.
Glen,
sirs,
resignation
and
I
believe
there
is
an
applicant
or
one
or
more
applicants
for
that
position
and
I
believe
that
will
come
to
the
board
in
at
one
of
their
November
meetings,
but
as
far
as
term
limits,
I
think
that's
still
something
that
the
clerk
is
looking
at.
B
B
Like
to
bring
up
this
placard
that
the
sign
placard
in
the
front
sometime
not
tonight,
maybe
but
the
ordinance
to
say
they're
supposed
to
be,
there
has
to
be
a
placard
advertising
the
public
hearing
and
consistently
the
placards
are
removed
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
we've
been
told
we
have
to
have
the
hearing.
Despite
that
which
makes
sense.
However,
I'd
like
to
have
some
discussion.
I
think
those
placards
are
important.
Yeah.