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B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
do
have
a
quorum.
I
do
want
to
mention.
We
have
a
few
peculiarities
with
our
meeting
today.
One
is
our
board
is
typically
comprised
of
five
members.
We
obviously
have
three:
it
three
is
a
quorum.
However,
we
do
want
to
give
any
applicants
the
opportunity
to
defer
their
application
if
they
would
feel
more
comfortable,
presenting
their
application
to
a
full
or
shall
I
say
more
fool.
A
If
there
were
four
members
in
attendance
just
due
to
unforeseen
circumstances
with
the
other
two
members,
so
all
of
our
applicants
do
have
that
option
to
defer
until
the
January
meeting.
A
second
important
note
is
that
we
do
not
have
an
attorney
present.
Typically
at
our
meetings,
we
have
these
City,
the
attorney
or
someone
or
an
attorney
from
the
city
attorney's
firms
staff
present
to
help
help
guide
us.
If
there
are
any
legal
questions
or
concerns
that
come
about,
we
do
not
have
the
benefit
of
an
attorney
this
evening.
A
So
again,
two
things
that
I'd
like
to
have
a
discussion
with
our
fellow
board
members
here
about
how
we
feel
comfortable
or
not
proceeding
without
the
benefit
of
counsel
and
as
well.
Of
course,
just
as
I
said
before,
the
any
applicants
have
the
opportunity
to
defer
the
their
application
until
another
meeting.
Given
that
there
is
not
an
attorney
present
so
and
also
of
note,
the
attorney
is
here
to
represent
the
city.
A
Oh
the
board,
the
board,
the
board
excuse
me,
which
you
know
that
that's
the
role
of
that
the
attorney
so
just
wanting
to
bring
all
those
things
to
light
so
of
Miss,
Simon
and
Miss
Rich.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
on
proceeding
with
out
an
attorney
present.
C
D
A
Miss
Simon
I
feel
the
same
way.
Okay
and-
and
that's
where,
in
discussion
with
our
city
staff
about
this
earlier
is
we
as
a
board,
could
certainly
exercise
our
right
to
defer
an
application.
A
If
we
are
in
the
middle
of
hearing
the
evidence
presented
to
us
and
run
into
some
situations
where
we
feel
that
the
attorney
would
be
of
benefit
in
those
proceedings
that
we
could
then
choose
as
a
board
to
defer
that
application
until
the
January
meeting,
so
don't
foresee,
that
being
an
issue
and
from
what
I
understand
from
the
city
staff
is
that
Planning
and
Zoning
proceeded
with
a
meeting
quite
successfully
a
couple
months
ago,
without
benefit
of
counsel,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
do
the
same.
I
did
want
to
good
evening.
A
Gentlemen
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
I'm
assuming
you're
here
as
an
applicant
on
our
agenda
tonight.
Just
very
briefly,
for
your
benefit.
I
wanted
to
bring
a
couple
things
to
your
attention.
One
is
that
we
do
have
a
quorum
this
evening,
but
it
is
only
three
of
us.
It
would
typically
be
five,
so
we're
letting
all
applicants
know
that
if
you
would
be
more
comfortable
with
a
fuller
board,
you
certainly
can
defer
your
application
to
be
heard
at
our
January
meeting.
A
So
that
is
an
option
and
also,
as
we
were
discussing,
we
do
not
have
the
benefit
of
having
our
attorney
here
this
evening.
The
attorney
is
here
to
provide
counsel
as
needed
for
the
board,
so
that
also,
if
you
are
not
comfortable
proceeding,
given
that
circumstance,
you
certainly
can
defer
till
January
as
well,
and
we
did,
if
you
heard
talked
about,
we
are
comfortable
proceeding,
feel
that
this
would.
A
This
would
be
fair
if
we
ever
if
we
do
get
to
a
point
in
discussion,
any
peculiarities
with
a
certain
application
and
feel
it
would
not
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
or
the
applicant
to
proceed
without
legal
counsel.
We
would
reserve
the
right
to
discontinue
hearing
the
application
until
we
do
have
a
meeting
with
an
attorney
so
just
wanted
to
bring
all
of
that.
You
know
to
everyone's
attention
before
we
proceed.
B
The
matters
before
the
board
of
adjustments
in
Tarpon
Springs
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature.
In
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
the
board
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinance
ordinances.
B
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
the
borders
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
board
of
Board
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
historic
preservation.
B
This
is
the
board
of
adjustments
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
the
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
the
proceeding
with
with
their
testimony.
B
C
D
Before
I
begin
with
this
application
is,
is
there
an
applicant
present
here
for
this
application?
D
A
Given
the
the
the
details
that
are
presented
in
here,
I
in
my
notations
I
did
have
areas
where
I
wanted
to
ask
the
applicants
for
some
clarification
and
I
feel
that
it
would
only
be
fair
to
them
to
present
those
details
right.
D
Okay,
just
to
so,
we
can
formally
have
it
on
the
record.
Could
we
take
a
vote
for
that
to
defer,
and
would
you
like
to
defer
to
the
January
regular
meeting?
Yes,.
D
C
A
C
D
A
All
right
well
moving
on
to
our
next
next
item
on
the
agenda
application
number
22-129,
which
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
required
side
and
rear
yard
setbacks
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
new
storage
buildings
on
site.
The
location
is
773,
Wesley
Avenue.
D
Ali
Keen,
with
planning
and
zoning.
This
property
is
located
here
outlined
in
yellow
it's
off
of
Wesley
Avenue,
just
east
of
Anclote
Road,
the
property
as
well
as
all
the
surrounding
property
is
in
industrial,
heavy
zoning.
The
Orange
Line
shown
here
on
this
map
indicates
the
current
city
boundary,
so
adjacent
property
to
the
south
and
east
of
the
subject.
Site
is
actually
an
unincorporated
Pinellas
County,
but
that
zone
is
also
heavy
Industrial.
D
The
applicants
are
here
today
requesting
side
and
rear
yard
reduction
variances
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
new
storage
buildings
on
site
for
the
side
yard.
They
are
requesting
a
variance
to
allow
a
minimum
of
five
feet,
whereas
20
feet
would
be
typically
required
and
for
the
rear
yard.
They're
asking
for
a
minimum
of
10
feet
where
again
20
feet
would
be
typically
required
in
this
Sony
District.
D
This
is
just
an
aerial
photograph
of
the
site
as
it
is
today.
It
is
a
flag-shaped
lot.
With
a
long
drive
off
of
Wesley
Avenue,
there
is
an
existing
Warehouse
building
at
the
center
of
the
property,
and
a
majority
of
the
Primitive
property
is
utilized
for
storage
and
parking
of
boats,
vehicles
and
things
of
that
nature.
The
applicants
are
asking
variance
approval
in
order
to
construct
new
storage
structures
on
site
to
basically
put
all
of
the
vehicles
and
boats
that
are
on
site
now
to
be
in
covered
storage.
D
This
is
a
look
at
the
proposed
site
plan.
They
are
proposing
a
total
of
five
different
storage
structures
on
site.
The
two
that
you
see
here
outlined
in
green
do
meet
the
required
setbacks,
so
the
variance
does
not
apply
to
those,
but
the
three
outlines
in
blue
one
on
the
North
side
and
two
on
the
South
Side
are
the
ones
that
the
variance
is
being
requested
for
again
they
are
proposing
a
minimum
10
foot
rear
setback,
which
is
this.
The
rear
is
the
purple
shaded
area
and
then
they're
requesting
a
minimum.
D
Five
foot
setback
for
the
area
shaded
in
Orange,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
the
building
on
the
North
has
the
smallest
setback
at
five
feet.
The
buildings
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
have
a
little
bit
larger
setbacks
between
14
and
16
feet,
but
again
they
don't
meet
the
minimum
20
feet,
so
they're
included
in
this
variance.
D
The
applicants
indicated
the
primary
reason
to
ask
for
the
variance
is
to
allow
these
storage
structures
to
be
closer
to
the
property
lines,
with
the
existing
building
being
in
the
center
of
the
property.
This
will
still
allow
for
safe
circulation
for
vehicles
and
trucks
on
site.
D
D
This
is
one
of
the
larger
Lots
within
the
industrial
park,
and
it
has
probably
one
of
the
smallest
exist
current
footprints
for
buildings.
One
consideration
again.
The
current
jurisdiction
line
for
the
city
is
along
the
south
side
of
the
property.
This
property
is
located
in
unincorporated,
Pinellas
County
and
has
again
an
industrial
heavy
zoning
in
the
county
properties
in
the
industrial
Zone
that
are
adjacent
to
other
industrial
properties
do
not
have
a
minimum
side
setback.
They
could
have
a
zero
foot
setback.
C
A
And
that
that's
where
I
just
wanted
the
clarification,
so
the
the
property
there
can
you
forward
to
the
contact
slide,
which
was
the
area
with
the
blue
and
the
yellow?
Oh
yes,
towards
the
end.
A
Yes,
yes,
that
one
so
here
the
south
of
the
property
butting
up
to
that
Pinellas
County
eye
zoning.
So,
as
you
said
that
Pinellas
County
eye
zoning,
they
have
a
zero
foot
setback
requirement
in
that
area.
Yes,.
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Rich
said
our.
We
had
similar
questions
and
concerns
that,
thankfully,
were
clarified
there
and
the
property
to
the
north,
where
they
are
requesting
the
10-foot
setback,
which
is
considered
a
side,
the
side
setback.
Actually
they
were
proposing
the
minimum
five
feet.
It
looks
like
that
is
due
to
the
nature
of
the
angle.
That's
happening
at
that
bottom
right
of
the
image
am
I
correct.
D
A
A
A
Stood
up
if
you
could
just
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
A
Okay.
Thank
you.
Gentlemen.
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
top
area
there,
which
I
believe
is
North.
What
is
the
nature
of
of
the
business
and
what's
happening
with
the
adjacent
property
there.
E
It's
all
basically
RV
and
Boat
store
or
just
boat
storage
and
we're
putting
the
where
the
buildings
up
just
kind
of
beautify.
Everything
make
it
not
look
so
bad
and
keep
it
out
of
the
elements
right
and
the
reason.
We've
we've
selected
five
feet
and
the
reason
we
selected
everything
all
the
buffers
around
isn't
because
that's
the
minimum
we
thought
we
could
do
because
the
county
is
zero.
We
just
had
there's
easements
all
the
way
around
drainage
easements,
so
we
had
to
stay
out
of
those.
E
F
A
That
was
really
and
I
think
that
the
county
setback
was
my
question.
I,
don't
have
any
other
questions,
no
questions
at
this
time.
Okay,
so
Sally
done
with
her
Ally.
Did
you
have
any
other
further
information
for
us?
No
I
do
not
okay,
so
with.
If
we
have
no
other
questions,
we
don't
have
any
public
comment
or
any
public
comments
submitted
to
the
record.
D
A
E
D
Again,
Ali
Keane,
with
planning
and
zoning.
This
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Mears
Boulevard.
It's
outlined
in
red
on
this
Slide
the
properties
in
the
r70a
zoning
District,
which
is
a
single
family.
Zoning
District,
there's
our
100
single-family
zoning
to
the
south
and
west
of
the
site
and
then
across
the
street
to
the
north
is
RM
residential,
multi-family
zoning.
D
The
applicants
are
here
today
proposing
to
replace
their
existing
pool
screen
enclosure
around
their
existing
pool,
they're,
seeking
a
variance
to
allow
the
separation
distance,
that's
required
between
the
edge
of
water
and
the
pool
screen
enclosure
to
be
only
2.67
feet.
Which
is
less
than
the
required
three
foot
separation.
D
This
is
an
aerial
photograph
showing
the
existing
pool
screen
enclosure
they're,
proposing
to
put
the
enclosure
in
the
exact
same
footprint
as
it
is
today,
and
it's
outlined
here
in
the
blue
line
and
then
let's
look
at
the
survey
again
the
pull
screen
closure
as
you're
aware
they
have
their
own
setbacks
in
the
code.
The
minimum
required
rear
setback
is
five
feet.
It's
also
required
to
be
outside
any
sort
of
easement.
In
this
case,
the
pool
screen
enclosure
does
meet
the
five
foot
rear
setback.
D
It
also
is
outside
of
an
existing
five
foot
utility
easement
along
the
rear
of
the
property
which
is
shaded
here
in
purple.
The
minimum
separation
distance
also
requires
a
minimum
three
foot
separation
between
the
water's
edge
and
an
enclosure.
In
this
case,
it's
less
than
the
three
feet
requirement.
A
G
A
G
Yeah
there
might
have
been
a
variance
one
that
was
built,
but
I
mean
we
let
the
records.
Don't
we
can't
find
any
record
to
show
with
any
of
that,
of
course,
okay.
A
I
believe,
sir,
if
I,
if
I
may
ask,
are
you
here
for
the
application
on
Lemon
Street.
A
Yeah
understand:
well,
luckily,
we
we
we
can
make
a
zigzag
here
and.
C
A
A
The
others
so
I
I
didn't
go
to
law
school,
but
I
do
believe
we.
So
just
a
few
things
is
one.
We
did
not
know
that
you
were
present,
which
is
okay.
So
what
we
did
in
the
what
we
felt
was
the
best
interest
of
you
and
the
city.
Was
we
deferred
your
application
until
January?
However,
I
do
believe
we
can
have
another
motion
to
take
that
back
and
to
hear
this
application.
Yes,
he
needs
to
hear
the.
A
A
First,
is
that
the
board
is
typically
a
five-person
board.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
only
three
of
us,
so
if
you
feel
that
you
would
prefer
to
wait
until
you
had
the
benefit
of
being
heard
by
a
full
board
or
full
ER,
if
it
was
four
out
of
five
or
the
maximum
five
out
of
five,
you
certainly
have
the
right
to
do
that.
The
second
is
that
we
do
not
have
the
benefit
of
having
an
attorney
present
tonight.
We
typically
do
have
a
attorney
which
represents
the
board.
A
You
know
that
is
you
know,
with
the
city
to
represent
and
to
provide
us
an
illegal
counsel
if
there
are
such
peculiar
questions
that
arise
as
we
are
reviewing
the
information
and
the
criteria
that's
presented,
so
we
do
not
have
that
attorney
present
we
as
a
board.
We
did
have
open
discussion
about
this
and
we
are
comfortable
proceeding.
A
However,
we
did
state
that
if
we
were
hearing
an
application
and
we
felt
that
it
was
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
or
the
applicant
for
us
to
proceed
with
moving
forward
with
that
application,
without
the
benefit
of
counsel
that
we
would
then
defer
the
Remain
the
the
application
to
be
completed
in
January.
So
you
too,
of
course,
if
you
do
not
want
us
to
hear
the
application
number
one
with
out
having
a
full
board
or
and
or
because
we
do
not
have
counsel.
You
certainly
have
that
right.
A
Yes,
no,
that's
actually
that's
Ali
Keane,
who
is
our
city
planner,.
D
A
That
was
probably
Patricia
McNeese,
so
Ali
holds
a
similar
role
in
the
city
as
Miss
McNeese
yeah.
If
we,
if
we
maybe.
A
Into
that,
yes,
yes,
I'm,
sorry,
yes,
two
things!
If
we
can
have
you
raise
your
right
hand
and
to
be
sworn
in,
Miss
Yothers
can
read
that
do.
B
F
Price,
my
home
address
is
3051
Autumn
Drive.
The
my
office
is
439
East,
Lemon,
Street,
okay,.
C
F
I
mean
I
I,
don't
I'm
not
worried
about
having
legal
counsel
really
because
I
think
it's
pretty
straightforward.
What
we're
doing
and
I've
talked
with
Patricia
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
legal
that
was
here
before
when
I
talked
to
her
about
the
cutting,
because
we
had
gone
through
the
driveway
approval
already
with
the
Heritage
and
then
when
I
talked
with
all
them
afterwards,
they
were
pretty
optimistic
about
it,
and
so
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
it's
pretty
straightforward.
F
You
that
probably
happened.
C
A
Right
and
and
if
you
did
want
to
proceed-
and
you
felt
which
has
happened
before
where
an
applicant
we
have
been
in
the
middle
of
discussing
an
application
and
we've
had
an
applicant
pull
out
like
right
in
the
middle
saying
you
know
what
halt
wait.
A
minute
I
see
the
questions.
You're
asking
I
see
the
concerns.
F
B
C
A
A
In
it
are
our
boards
a
little
bit
different
than
Heritage
preservation
to
where,
if
say,
if
Heritage
preservation
says
no,
you
can't
paint
purple
polka
dots
on
your
house,
you
could
say
I'm
going
to
escalate
this
up
to
the
city
commission.
If
we
were
to
say
no
to
something
it
goes
to
the
Circuit
Court.
A
So,
given
that
the
unique
nature
and
ask
and
the
peculiarities
of
the
application
you
know,
since
you
are,
as
you
know,
in
a
historic
district
and
there's,
you
know
very
specific
codes.
D
Think
if
I
could
just
jump
in
real
quick
I
was
just
like
just
maybe
kind
of
bring
us
all
full
circle.
I
think
that
it's
it's
up
to
the
applicant,
whether
or
not
he
would
like
to
proceed
with
the
hearing
tonight.
If
you
would
like
to
proceed,
then
the
board
would
have
to
vote
to
remove
your
deferral
of
the
item
and
then
just
so.
D
The
applicant
is
where,
because
it's
not
a
full
corner
or
a
full
bore,
there's
a
quorum,
but
you
need
to
have
three
affirmative
votes,
so
they
would
all
have
to
vote
the
same
for
an
item
to
pass
and
in
the
event
you
want
to
defer
to
the
January
meeting.
Just
so
you're
aware
that
date
is
January,
25th,
so
again,
I
think
it's
up
to
the
applicant
whether
they
like
to
proceed.
C
You,
you
seems
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
the
staff
report
that
we've
been
given
is
recommending
to
not
approve
your
variance
really.
So
you
that's.
Why
I'm
saying
if
you
don't
know
that
information
in
and
you're
the
usually
the
applicant,
has
that
and
has
reviewed
that
and
comes
to
us
to
try
to
convince
us
why
the
staff
is
wrong.
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
you
may
it
may.
A
F
A
A
Not
a
typical
mode
of
operation
for
us
to
be
only
three,
you
know
board
members
and
no
attorney,
and
you
know
we
just
want
to
do
what's
right
by
you
and
by
the
city,
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
we've
seen
our
two
applications
and
deferred
our
third.
Are
there
any
comments
from
the
staff.
D
No
I
do
not
have
anything
besides
that
we
do
have
a
new
board
of
adjustment
member
that
will
be
joining
us
in
January
I
believe
so.
We'll
have
another
fun
friendly
face
on
the
board.
Fantastic
and.
D
That
I'm
not
aware
Miss
Simon,
you
just
need
to
reach
out
to
the
clerk's
office.
If
that's
something
that
you
would
like,
and
they
can
work
work
with
you
for
that.
Okay,.
C
Because
I
do
think
we
also
heard
from
Mr
herbowski
at
the
last
meeting
that
that
was
going
to
be
his
last
meeting
and
it
seemed
like
there
was
still
some
confusion.
I.
D
Think
he's
been
in
conversations
with
the
the
city
clerk
about
whether
there's
a
reappointment
or,
if
he's
off
the
board,
so
that
I
think
there's
still
communicating
with
one
another.
A
A
Meeting,
yes
and
and
I
said
we
as
miss
you
know,
Simon
said
we
benefit
from
your
experience
and
knowledge
of
the
unique
nature
of
what
we
do
here
on
the
board.
So
it's
encouraging
him
to
see
if
there
was
a
way
which
I
believe
you
know
talking
with
the
clerk.
You
know
Miss
Jacobs
saying
you
know
we
don't
have
the
benefit
of
applications.
Luckily
we
do
have
now
so.
A
Yes,
I'm,
sorry
that
that
might
be
something
that
we
could
explore
with
that
the
clerk
is:
is
there
an
opportunity
for
Mr
robowski
to
be
an
alternate
yeah.
D
And
like
like
I
said,
I
I
know
that
the
city
clerk
has
been
talking
with
Mr
robotsky
about
his
position
on
the
board
and
so
I
think
that
they'll
kind
of
work
that
out
I
know.
We
still
have
some
positions
available
and
seats
available
for
the
board,
so
they're
still
accepting
applications
and
reviewing
those
so
they're
definitely
actively
seeking
new
members
great
to
hear.
A
Yep,
okay,
so
I
I
believe
if
we
have
any
board
comments,
board
and
staff
comments
seem
to
meld
into
one
for
the
purpose
of
our
of
our
minutes
and
actually
I
I
do
have
a
question.
I,
don't
see
that
we
had
any
minutes
this
evening.
Would
that
maybe
be
something
for
January
for
a
last
meeting?
Yes,
fantastic
all
right
without
seeing
anything
else,
I
believe
we
can
adjourn
and
see
each
other
again
on
January
25th
in
the
New
Year
sounds
great.