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From YouTube: Board of Adjustments July 26, 2023
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B
Fine
you're
fine,
if
you
could
please
call
roll
please.
B
E
Yes,
you,
madam
chair:
the
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Board
of
adjustment
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections.
E
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
approve
the
application.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
does
not
meet
the
criteria
in
the
code,
then
the
board
is
required
to
deny
the
application
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
E
All
testimony
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
applications,
utter
consideration
by
this
board,
any
board
members
who
has
disclosures,
such
as
ex
parte,
Communications
or
conflicts
of
interest.
Please
make
your
disclosures
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
E
The
following
is
the
established
procedure
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
First,
the
city
will
present
the
application
to
the
board
and
the
applicant
will
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
the
city
and
any
City
Witnesses.
Then
the
applicant
will
have
the
opportunity
to
present
their
application,
and
the
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
of
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants
Witnesses.
E
Then,
proponents
and
opponents
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
than
the
applicant,
and
this
then
the
city
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
a
rebuttal
before
the
public
hearing
is
closed
and
the
board
makes
a
determination
on
this
matter
at
this
time.
Anybody
who
would
like
to
to
speak
at
this
hearing
please
stand
and
receive
the
oath.
E
B
Thank
you.
So
we
will
call
our
first
application
of
the
evening,
which
is
application,
number
23-53
and
23-54
these
two
applications
together
for
same
common
properties,
which
is
a
variance
to
allow
non-conforming
lots
of
record
to
be
built
upon
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
a
single-family
home
on
each
lot.
This
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Ashland
Avenue,
approximately
373
feet
west
of
Whitcomb
Boulevard
intersection.
B
B
F
I
have
a
conflict
with
application
number
23-56.
E
For
us
and
for
that,
since
we
have
alternates
present,
the
alternate
will
go
ahead
and
sit
in
for
that
application.
G
G
The
subject
properties
are
located
on
the
south
side
of
Ashland
Avenue
they're
outlined
in
red
here
on
the
screen.
This
area
is
primarily
single
family
residential
zoning,
which
is
the
r100
zoning
district.
There
is
a
church
property
to
the
south
of
the
site,
and
this
is
just
west
of
Whitcomb
Boulevard.
G
The
applicants
are
here
tonight
requesting
variance
approval
to
allow
two
non-conforming
lots
of
record
Lots,
six
and
seven
that
are
under
common
ownership
to
be
separate,
buildable
Lots
they're,
asking
for
recognition
of
the
historic
lot
layout
of
the
properties
which
is
shown
here
on
the
screen,
lot
7
to
the
west
and
six
to
the
East,
and
the
shared
lot
line.
Right
now
is
the
dash
yellow
line
here
in
the
center.
G
The
Land
Development
code
states
that
if,
at
any
time
the
owner
of
a
non-conforming
lot
of
record
owns
adjoining
land,
the
lot
shall
be
combined
to
meet
the
minimum
lot
requirements
and
again
they're
asking
recognition
of
each
lot
as
a
separate
buildable
lot
again.
These
properties
are
located
in
the
r100
zoning
District.
The
minimum
lot
area
is
10
000
square
feet,
the
minimum
lot
width
is
75
feet
and
the
subject.
G
Properties
are
each
just
over
6
700
square
feet
in
area
and
are
both
55
feet
wide,
so
they're
not
conforming
in
both
area
and
width.
Looking
at
the
site,
history
of
the
property,
they
are
originally
plotted
back
in
1925
as
lot
6
and
7
of
the
Innis
Park
extension
flat.
This
did
predate
our
City's
first
Land
Development
code
that
went
into
effect
in
1944..
At
that
time
the
properties
were
placed
into
the
r1aa
zoning
district
and
that
required
a
minimum
lot
area
of
7
500
square
feet.
So
lots
became
legally
non-conforming
at
that
time.
G
G
When
zooming
out
a
little
bit
looking
at
the
immediate
neighborhood,
all
of
these
lots
are
within
the
same
Subdivision
plat
back
in
1925.
how
it's
developed
over
time.
There
are
some
properties,
such
as
the
ones
to
the
east
of
the
site
that
are
the
same
lock
configuration
with
the
home
constructed
some
Lots
or
some
homes
are
built
on
a
combination
of
two
and,
in
this
case
three
different
Lots,
but
they're,
primarily
single
family,
residential
and
again
on
this
historic
plotted
property.
H
Just
I'm
trying
to
get
my
head
I
know
that
their
requests,
if,
as
it
is
right
now
with
common
ownership,
they
wouldn't
need
a
variance
if
it
was
one
home,
but
because
it's
two
homes
they
would
need
the
variance,
even
because.
G
Correct,
yes,
so
if
they
were
to
build
one
home
on
this
entire
subject,
site
accommodating
both
Lots,
then
no
no
variance
would
be
required.
If
each
lot
were
owned
separately
with
different
owners
and
they
weren't
in
common
ownership
in
the
past,
then
they
could
be
built
individually.
G
It's
in
1944
it
was
still
two
lots.
The
reason
why
the
variance
is
before
you,
because
back
in
2011,
the
property
owner
of
lot
7
purchased
lot
six,
so
it
placed
them
all
in
common
ownership.
There's
still
two
lots,
but
because
the
code
states
that,
if
non-conforming
lots,
are
a
lot
smaller
than
what
they're
required
to
be
go
under
common
ownership,
they're
supposed
to
be
developed
as
one
okay.
F
G
F
B
Have
any
other
questions
because
I
had
a
couple
questions
so
so,
as
you
said,
if
two
different
people
owned,
if
person
a
owned
lot,
7
person
B
owned
lot.
Six,
we
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
right.
G
Correct
so
if
we
have
someone
come
into
the
city
say
that
they're
coming
to
inquire
about
lot
six,
we
would
look
at
the
property
appraisal
records
to
see
if
it
ever
was
under
common
ownership,
and
if
it
is
that's
what
kicks
it
to
the
board.
B
Okay,
another
question
I
had
just
as
a
point
of
information
or
reference
as
Miss
Rich
has
about
the
driveway.
What
are
the
minimum
two
questions?
What,
if
any,
is
minimum
square
footage
for
homes
being
constructed
in
this
area
or.
B
And
maybe,
while
you're
looking
at
it
might
be
in
the
same
area.
My
next
question,
for
you,
miss
Keane,
is
what
is
the
front
rear
and
side
setbacks?
Sure.
G
For
that
area,
so
for
r100
zoning
District,
the
minimum
front
setback
is
25
feet.
The
minimum
rear
setback
is
30
feet
and
then
the
minimum
side
setback
is
10
feet,
but
a
total
of
25
feet.
So
one
side
15
feet,
one
side,
10
feet
got
it
and
then
let
me
just
verify
that
minimum
net
floor
well.
B
While
you
do
that,
I
will
do
my
high
level
math,
just
as
a
point
of
reference
to
where,
if
there
would
be,
you
know
two
single-family
homes
that
could
be
constructed
on
these
Lots,
given
that
side
yard
setback,
without
a
variance
for
a
setback,
you're
talking
about
a
30
foot
wide
home
and
I
30
40,
yes,
because
it's
a
55
foot
wide
one
right,
okay,
so
just
to
put
that
out
there,
so
that
would
be
a
35
foot
wide
and
then,
if
we're
like
at
122
minus
our
55.
B
Oh
that's
a
lot
of
math
for
me
today!
Isn't
it
that's
a
68
foot,
deep
home
right?
G
B
B
B
I
All
right
so
the
two
Lots
seven
and
six
there
and
house
right
to
the
east
right
there
Sterling
and
his
wife
Diamond,
who
lived
there.
That's
a
55-foot
lot
to
the
house
to
the
next
Frank
and
Candy
55-foot
lot.
Now
to
the
next
of
that.
That's
a
combined
lot
and
then
on
the
corner.
There's
a
real
nice
big
house
now
I
want
to
explain
a
little
something
that
you
may
have
read
the
backup
about
the
history.
I
A
I
Now,
in
the
meantime,
let's
talk
about
lot:
six,
who
owned
lot
six
before
Irene
did
and
you
all
know,
I
didn't
see
that
in
the
backup
City
at
Tarpon
Springs.
That
was
their
lot.
That
was
their
lot
so
one
it
wouldn't
have
been
buildable
because
I
looked
at
the
research
years
ago,
and
that
lot
was
deeded
to
the
city.
It
was
given
to
him
as
a
back
access
for
a
roadway
behind
the
church
to
collect
with
poolless
Lane,
so
that
land
was
actually
donated
to
the
city
she
bought
it.
I
I
I
Ding
dong
code
enforcement
clean
up
the
lot
she
went
through
hell
with
code
enforcement
on
that
they
ended
up
finding
her
for
both
Lots
she's,
been
I,
know
it's
irrelevant,
but
she's
been
through
hardships
in
this.
So
I
guess
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
and
I
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
my
neighbors,
but
I
did
speak
to
Frank
and
I.
I
B
D
I
mean
Mr
delacos
brought
up
the
construction
of
two
homes.
That's
what
that's!
What
in
fact,
they're
asking
to
do
right,
correct
a
single
family
home
on
each
lot,
correct
I,
believe
that's
and
does
the
fact
that
the
city
owned
that
property
bear
any
on.
B
Okay
and
if
you
could
just
for
the
benefit
of
not
only
of
our
board
but
of
everyone
present
today,
maybe
go
to
the
slide
where
you
had
the
R3
review
standards
regarding
the
non-conforming
lot
of
record
right
there.
So,
as
the
reiteration
that
we
are
looking
at
these
three
standards,
which
is
the
block
consisting
of
at
least
one
entire
lot
of
record
on
the
effective
date
of
the
code,
which,
in
my
judgment
on
the
evidence
given
before
us
that
does
meet,
it
was
not
created
in
a
violation
of
reading
previous
zoning
ordinance.
B
B
So
if
we
have
any
other
discussion,
if
not,
we
can
look
for
a
motion
or
to
Mr
Boris.
Did
you.
E
Have
any
questions
or
comments?
You
also
did
not
ask
I,
don't
think
they
have
some,
but
you
still
have
to
at
least
see
if
there
was
rebuttal
from
the
applicant
or
from
the
city
on
anything.
B
I
Yeah
well,
if
you
read
the
language,
it
says
the
lot
was
combined
in
order
to
allow
existing
improvements
on
the
neighboring
developed
lot.
There
is
no
existing
improvements
on
the
neighborhood
lot
now
or
ever
so
it
does
meet
in
that
because,
in
your
backup
that
the
planning
staff
had
put
in
number
three,
they
said
they
didn't
meet
that
standard,
but
I
think
by
the
wording
here
it
does.
Thank.
I
B
B
So
if
we
may
have
I'd
like
to
call
for
a
motion,
if
we
may
I'm.
G
F
Question:
that's!
Okay!
Yes
I'm!
So
sorry!
Sorry!
Yes,
that's!
Okay,
since
the
important
now
is
to
be
7
500
square
feet,
and
we
only
have
6
700
square
feet
from
the
previous
history
that
we
have
on
this
Can
it
can
be
attached
to
this.
Easements
will
be
given
in
the
future.
E
For
in
this
application-
and
you
have
to
wait
until
they
actually
have
a
plan
where
they
know
what,
if
they
want,
that
additional
variances
to
the
setbacks
as
it
stands
today,
the
only
thing
that
you're
deciding
on
is
this
particular
issue
with
respect
to
recognizing
a
non-conforming
lot
of
record
than
if
they
want
additional
variances.
They
will
have
to
come
back
through
through
this
process
to
get
the
variances
to
the
side
to
the
front
if
they
need
anything
like
that,.
H
Oh,
did
you
have
anything?
Oh.
F
H
D
D
H
D
D
B
E
B
B
Off-Building
for
close
to
19.,
so
if
we
could,
please
have
the.
G
Staff
presentation,
okay,
again
Ali
hean
senior,
planner
planning
and
zoning,
and
yes,
this
property
is
located
in
the
Publix
Shopping
Center.
The
entire
parcel
is
outlined
in
yellow
here
on
the
screen.
The
specific
project
area
that's
applicable
to
this
application
is
outlined
here
in
white
and
it
is
the
TD
Bank
location
which
is
one
of
the
outbuildings
on
the
parcel
surrounding
zoning
is
primarily
Highway
business
along
US
19,
there's
some
residential
and
neighborhood
business
further
west
of
the
site.
G
The
applicants
are
here
requesting
a
variance
to
reduce
the
required
number
of
vehicle
stacking
spaces
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
a
new
drive-through,
ATM
and
Tube
service
facility
for
the
existing
TD
Bank
location.
The
Land
Development
code
requires
a
minimum
of
six
spaces
for
finance
stacking
spaces
for
a
drive-through
with
one
lane
for
financial
institutions,
and
they
are
proposing
a
total
of
four
spaces.
G
This
is
looking
at
their
site
plan
just
in
context
of
the
entire
site
and
then
zooming
in
a
little
bit
more.
So
it's
easier
to
see
the
TD
Bank
again
is
one
of
the
end
units
on
the
property,
and
this
has
been
shifted
a
little
bit.
So
this
is
the
US
19
Frontage
for
context,
so
the
bank
location
is
outlined
here
in
blue
and
the
proposed
ATM
and
construction
will
be
taking
place
in
this
area
in
Orange
along
the
US-19
Frontage.
G
The
entire
project
consists
of
removing
a
total
of
13
parking
spaces,
relocating
an
existing
landscape,
aisle,
adding
new,
concrete,
curbing
and
Island
Lane
striping,
the
installation
of
the
underground
tube
service
and
then
also
the
construction
of
the
remote
ATM
structure.
As
you
can
see
here,
a
total
of
four
stacking
spaces,
starting
from
the
ATM
Booth,
are
able
to
be
accommodated
in
this
new
area.
One
thing
to
note
is
they
are
removing
13
parking
spaces.
G
As
a
part
of
the
application,
they
provided
some
additional
information
about
the
bank
operations.
One
was
the
average
transaction
times
for
a
drive
up
tube
Services
average
time
is
two
to
four
minutes,
and
then
the
drive
of
APN
services
are
approximately
one
to
three
minutes
for
each
transaction.
They
also
provided
information
about
their
existing
customer
volume
and
I
just
outlined
it's
pretty
consistent
throughout
the
day,
but
the
highest
traffic
time
that
I
saw
was
between
10
a.m
and
1
pm
and
then
Fridays
with
most
of
the
traffic
taking
place
kind
of
after
business
hours.
G
Zooming
out
and
looking
at
the
project
site,
even
though
this
Bank
location
is
an
end
unit
on
the
building,
there
are
some
limitations
to
putting
an
ATM
service
on
the
building
or
close
to
that
facility.
One
and
one
of
the
most
prominent
one
is
the
existing
retention
Pond,
which
is
just
to
the
north
of
the
site.
This
really
prevents
any
sort
of
construction
taking
place
along
the
side
of
their
tenant
space
and
then
along
the
south
portion
is
one
of
the
primary
access
drives
for
the
shopping
center.
G
The
location
of
any
sort
of
drive-through
at
this
location
would
severely
impact
the
circulation
on
site,
I'm
sure
you've
all
been
there
and
know
that
that
drive
is
actively
used,
which
is
why
it's
most
appropriately
placed
in
this
location
and
then
beyond
the
site
limitations.
The
applicant
has
indicated
there
are
some
lease
agreements
with
all
the
other
tenants
that
are
on
the
property
that
limit
where
they
can
locate
this
facility.
K
Dinner
hours
so
likely,
the
other
two
tenants
are
not
gonna.
So
the
question
is
the
Overflow,
though,
so
we
have
four
vehicles
that
can
be
tucked
in
there
out
of
the
way.
So
I
guess.
The
question
is:
if
it's
a
peak
time
and
there's
more
than
four
vehicles,
it's
gonna
impact,
the
other
two
tenants,
but
they're
primarily
different
hours
on
the
bank.
G
That
that's
my
that's
my
estimation,
based
on
the
type
of
use
of
the
business
I,
don't
know
their
exact
peak
hours,
but
based
off
of
the
information
provided
by
the
applicant.
It
seems
like
they
have
the
most
activity
during
the
lunch
time.
K
And
my
next
question
was
the
retention
fund
I
understand
you
can't
build
in
the
retention
pond,
because
it's
there
to
to
take
the
excess
water
and
do
something
with
it.
I
have
seen
some
decking
put
over
retention.
Pods
is
that
is
a
is
a
a
driveway
like
a
like.
A
graded
driveway.
Is
that
a
a
even
a
possibility
to
put
over
the
retention
Pond
to
create
a
space
next
to
the
building,
instead
of
where
it's
at
so.
G
During
the
review
of
the
application,
we
did
ask
the
applicant
to
provide
information
of
why
they
couldn't
necessarily
make
modifications
to
their
retention.
Pond
I
think
Beyond,
just
one
the
the
financial
investment
I
have
to
go
into
to
relocate.
It
modify
it
to
still
adequately
take
the
storm
water
for
the
entire
property.
I
think
there's
some
lease
limitations,
but
I'll
defer
to
the
applicant
to
maybe
elaborate
on
that.
H
Ellie,
when
you
look
at
your
the
screen
before
that
that
had
the
back
parking
lot
as
a
part
of
it,
there's
like
limitations
or
something
like
that.
H
E
G
So
yes,
when
we
calculate
parking,
we
have
a
calculation
for
shopping
center
and
I
can
give
you
that
number
two,
but
it's
for
the
entire
parcel.
So
we
look
at
the
entire
parcel,
not
necessarily
individual
spaces
and
the
shopping
center
calculation
is,
and
this
is
for
shopping
centers
with
the
that
exceed
75
000
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area,
so
they
provided
that
number
to
us
for
basically,
every
building
and
space
on
the
site
and
they're
required
one
space
per
300
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area.
G
G
H
How
it
would
even
work
without
taking
that
green
space
to
add
more
cars
right
there,
because
you're
saying
you're,
removing
the
spaces
but
you're
actually
by
putting
those
cars
in
there
for
traffic
flow?
It's
a
narrow
traffic
flow
in
that
small
area.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
like
when
you're
maneuvering
around
the
vehicles
so.
G
From
this
area,
just
maybe
for
some
context,
this
area
here
where
the
parking
spaces
are,
is
what
they're
proposing
to
to
remove
right
and
then,
if
I
go
back
to
the
drawings
and
how
it's
flipped.
So
here's
your
pond
back
here
so
they're
removing
you
can
see
the
spaces
kind
of
underneath
the
drawing
and
they're
taking
up
that
space
to
create
a
dry
vial
with
the
median
but
they're
not
impacting
the
actual
Drive
Cross
Drive
aisle
that's
existing
there,
but
this
is
where
the
spaces
are
being
removed.
K
D
The
rights
of
others,
whose
property
would
be
affected
by
approval
of
the
variants,
alter
the
S
and
essential
character
of
the
neighborhood
or
create
a
nuisance,
and
it
seems
like
13
spaces
and
putting
that
configuration
that
would
affect
the
other
businesses.
I,
don't
know
how
it
wouldn't,
but
since
you
haven't
heard
from
them,
but
haven't
also
directly
contacted
the
other
businesses.
I
don't
know
I
mean
they
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
I'm
sure
figure
out.
B
And
on
that,
because
I
I
believe
Ms
Keane,
if
you
can
clarify
you
had
said
notice,
was
given
to
the
adjacent
Property
Owners
but,
as
we
know,
the
property
owners
aren't
necessarily
the
business
owners.
G
Right
so,
but
in
addition
to
the
mailed
notice,
we
put
signs
on
the
property
that
say
what
the
request
is,
the
dates
and
times
as
well
as
contact
information
for
our
department,
and
then
we
also
run
an
ad
in
the
paper.
But
the
purpose
of
having
the
sign
on
property
is
also
to
notify
individuals
that
may
not
be
mailed
notice.
K
I
just
wanted
to
oh
I'm.
Sorry
go
ahead.
I
just
wanted
to
understand
where
you're
saying
that
the
it's
going
to
impact
the
other
businesses,
how
how
do
you
see
it
impacting
the
other
businesses,
because
I'm
looking
at
it
and
I,
see
that
if
it
we
only
have
four
vehicles
at
a
time
which,
from
these
numbers
probably
would
be
right,
it
looks
like
they
are
tucked
in
there.
K
I
I
do
see
what
Miss
Rich
says
about
the
it's
tight
and
I
drive
a
dually,
so
I
understand
tight,
but
that's
a
fact
of
life
in
malls
that
it's
tight
but
I'm,
saying
I'm
coming
in
instead
of
parking
in
a
parking
place,
I
just
see
him
going
into
that
drive
through
I.
Don't
see
I'm,
not
seeing
a
big
difference,
I'm
trying
to
understand
yeah.
D
C
D
The
way
the
traffic
which
we
know
is
already
kind
of
moving
through
there,
people
cutting
through
now
they'll
also
be
diverted
into
this
other
thing.
Now
they
they
will
eventually
get
out
of
the
way.
But
at
what
point
are
they
still
backing
up
traffic
which
disallows
people
from
coming
in
and
out
of
the
other
spot?
So.
K
I
get
what
you're
saying,
but
when
I,
when
I
was
looking
at
it
and
studying
it,
the
there's
parking
places
on
the
side
of
the
retention,
Pond
and
I,
don't
believe
you
can
see
it,
but
at
the
other
end
of
the
building,
which
I,
don't
think
is
all
that
far
to
the
left.
I
believe
there
are
parking
spaces
along
the
building
there
as
well.
K
So
it's
so
instead
of
using
the
ones
in
front
of
the
bank,
they
would
just
use
the
ones
on
the
side.
That's
what
I
was
thinking.
It's
okay
kind
of
like
if
you're
a
bank
you
want
to
have
a
you.
J
K
You
know
a
remote,
you
know
facility
like
that
I
mean
I
I.
You
know,
I
I
got
drenched
the
other
day
get
into
my
office
just
from
in
my
parking
lot.
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
it
to
do
my
banking,
so
I,
understand
I.
Think
a
bank
would
need
it,
but
I
think
there's
other
parking
places
on
the
side
of
that
building
there
that
they
might
be
able
to
utilize
to.
D
B
K
H
H
G
If
they
were
able
to
take
up
additional
parking
spaces
along
that
Frontage
to
accommodate
the
full
six
stacking
spaces,
they
could
just
go
through
a
typical
site
plan
process.
They
would
not
need
a
variant,
so
the
variance
is
to
reduce
those
stacking
spaces
and-
and
that's
what
but
like
I
said
if
they
came
in
with
something
that
complied,
they
would
be
able
to
do
that.
B
This
do
you
have
the
one
where
it's
the
blowout
this
one
here?
Yes,
okay,
it
would
be
so
you
have
your
orange
rectangle
area.
It
would
actually
be
gobbling
up,
which
is
a
very
official
term,
several
more
parking
spaces
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
six
stack
cute.
B
So
if
we
can
have
the
applicant
present,
if
the
applicant
is,
if
you
could
please
step
forward
to
the
podium
I
believe
you,
if
you
can
state
your
name
and
address
and
if
you've
been
sworn
in,
sir,
yes,.
L
I
have
been
sworn
in,
my
name
is
Scott
Griffin
I
reside
at
3794,
Cathedral,
Cove,
Road,
Jacksonville,
Florida,
3224,
32217,
sorry
to
follow
up
with
Miss
Keane
you
and
Miss
Beach.
You
are
correct
when
we
initially
looked
at
this,
we
planed
it
out
with
six
and
we
were
courteous
to
our
neighbors
and
we
were
concerned
about
the
limited
parking
in
that
front
area
as
well
and
I.
Think
Miss
Keane
was
part
of
the
TRC
committee
meetings
that
we
had
and
which
we've
gone
through
a
couple
times
we
initially
brought
in.
L
We
wanted
to
do
a
lot
less
parking
or
a
lot
less
stacking
under
the
TRC
recommendation.
They
they
kind
of
nudged
us
to
go
with
four
instead
of
a
much
lower
number,
but
I
do
have
just
to
elaborate.
Arby's
does
have
lease
rights
to
the
stacking
of
parking,
that's
to
the
right
of
the
retention
pond.
So
if
we
would
even
try
to
do
that,
we'd
have
to
negotiate
a
deal
with
the
landlord
who'd
negotiate
with
Arby's
and
working
with
our
landlord.
The
areas
that
we
picked
right.
L
There
were
the
most
convenient
that
really
nobody
had
lease
rights
too.
To
answer
some
of
the
questions,
I
know
they
were
concerned.
L
We
are
maintaining
the
two-lane
Drive
aisle,
so
we
were
karate,
courteous
of
that
and
making
sure
that
is
and
watching
this
and
I've
been
to
the
site
numerous
times
during
multiple
times
of
the
day,
majority
of
the
traffic
does
come
in
from
the
left
and
flow
and
come
out
past
that
RB
site
and
that's
one
reason
why
we
configured
it
that
way
so
that
the
traffic
it
we
didn't
have
to
worry
about
so
many
trying
to
cross
traffic
to
get
into
our
ATM
and
then,
when
they
exit
it,
they
would
be
going
with
that
flow
of
traffic
through
that
parking
lot
as
well.
C
B
Anyone
have
questions
of
the
applicant
yeah
hold
tight.
We're
probably
gonna.
Ask
you
some
questions.
Sir
I
I
actually
had
a
couple
questions.
So
I
know
that
you,
it's
being
called
a
you
know,
drive
through
ATM
is
the.
Is
it
one
of
those
ATMs
that
is
really
like
a
drive
through
also
where
you
have
the
tube
and
I
could
talk
to
the
person
to
the
teller
on
the
screen
and
yes,.
B
L
Correct
and
on
our
records
that
we
show
at
a
normal
Bank,
even
our
busiest
Banks,
we're
averaging
between
two
and
four
minutes
using
the
pneumatic
tube
systems.
There
are
occasions
where
there
goes
longer
and
a
lot
of
times.
What
we
see
is
that's
when
somebody
needs
or
has
a
language
barrier,
they
need
extra
communication.
We
have
to
pull
in
another
staff.
B
The
existing
customer
volume
I'm,
assuming,
of
course
that's
your
customer
volume
of
people,
parking
their
car
and
walking
into
the
existing
Branch.
Does
your
existing
branch
have
a
ATM
on
the
wall
to
where
I
could
park
my
car
and
not
go
inside,
but
I
can
be
kind
of
like
it
in
front
of
Publix,
like
one
of
those
kind
of.
L
B
L
We'll
most
likely
keep
it
just
as
a
courtesy,
because
there
are
Bank
members
as
they're
as
they
come
in.
They
stop
at
the
ATM
on
the
way,
through
they'll
deposit,
a
check
and
realize
oh
I
forgot
to
get
money
out,
so
they
do
stop
occasionally
on
the
way
out,
but
we
we
typically
will
operate
with
both
so.
B
L
L
Not
necessarily
explore
going
over
it,
we
did
look
at
that
and
one
reason
why
we
weren't
touching
that
or
looking
at
is
because,
regardless
we
would
still
be
here
in
front
of
this
group,
because
looking
at
the
building
with
and
coming
down,
we
still
would
not
meet
the
six
cars
stacking
and
we
fell.
Also
with
that
it
creates
more
of
an
exiting
issue.
L
We
would
hate
to
have
it
exit
out
on
the
rear
of
the
building
where
that
main
Drive
aisle
is
the
busiest
and
I
assume
we
would
also
hate
to
have
people
come
in
that
way
as
well,
knowing
that
that
is
the
busiest
section
of
the
of
the
actual
site?
Okay,.
K
B
And
I
I
believe
you
alluded
to
that.
You
have
already
been
before
the
technical
Review
Committee
you've
already
worked
through.
That
process
was
that
correct
and
correct
yeah
correct
so
and
that
that
is
where
what
is
before
us
today.
It's
the
resulting
plan
from
that
TRC
process.
Okay,
are
there
any
other
questions
of
the
applicant.
B
J
Sir
yeah
hi
I'm
Chris
Ralph
I'm
with
bricksmore
Property
Group,
the
owner
of
the
shopping
center
or
publicly
traded
Reit
and
where
the
owners
have
been
for
a
long
time,
I'm,
Chris,
Ralph
or
Christopher
Ralph
at
4915,
Kensington,
Park,
Boulevard,
Orlando,
Florida,
32819
and.
J
Thank
you
definitely
so,
hopefully,
I
can
clear
up
a
few
things.
Scott
did
a
great
job
on
kind
of
explaining
we've
been
walking
working
hand
in
hand
with
TD
Bank
our
tenant
and
trying
to
figure
out
a
compromise
here
on
what
works
for
them.
What
works
for
us
and
I
can
probably
answer
a
couple.
Questions.
I've
been
doing
this
a
long
time.
J
We
own
400
shopping,
centers,
I've,
probably
been
associated
with
a
thousand
shopping
centers
in
my
career,
so
I
have
some
visibility
into
how
things
kind
of
work
in
parking
fields
and
how
the
landlords
manage
things.
The
way
that
is
stacking
today
psychologically
people
see
what's
going
on,
I
watch
ATM
machines,
two
cars
stacked
three
cars.
People
generally
won't
stop.
You
know
it
just
looks
like
I'll
I'll
park
and
I'll
go
in
or
I'll
come
by
another
day,
they're
very
lightly
used
it's
a
quick
transaction
and
they
move
on.
J
Someone
asked
about
going
over
the
retention
pond.
That's
called
vaulting
and
you
go
over
with
just
like
it
sounds
with
comp,
Port
pre-port
concrete,
and
you
Vault
you
cover
up
what's
there,
even
though
you're
able
to
still
contain
the
water
like
code
requires
it's
extremely
expensive,
not
to
say
we
wouldn't
do
it
at
other
shopping
centers
where
it
might
make
sense.
You
know
the
birds,
don't
like
it,
the
Ducks,
don't
like
it.
J
It's
better
the
way
it
is
today
and
we
like
to
leave
it
the
way
it
is
today
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
there
between
that
building
and
19
and
going
to
Arby's.
So
it
does
have
some
appeal
to
and
we'd
rather
just
leave
it
like
that.
Not
to
say
we
didn't
look
at
that
as
an
alternative
I
went
through
the
best
of
our
experiences.
We
were
way
over
parked
as
Steph
noted
here,
and
one
thing
we
can
do
to
help
with
the
situation.
J
It
is
tight
in
here
it's
tight
in
every
shopping
center,
a
million
people
have
moved
to
Florida
since
2016
or
something
so
we're
all
experiencing
tight
parking
lots.
We
have
the
right
as
a
landlord
to
set
rules
and
regulations.
So
one
thing
we
can
offer
is:
we
can
have
the
tenants
that
in
this
building
Park
their
employees
in
the
main
parking
field
in
front
of
Publix,
which
would
likely
relieve
some
of
the
parking
spaces
that
are
blocked
up
for
eight
hour
shift
a
day.
J
Something
like
that
and
another
thing
we're
very
sensitive
to
is
what
we
call
pressure
on
parking.
So
we
try
to
find
complementary
uses
and
that's
why
we
like
the
bank
against
the
fast
casual
you
know
the
peak
and
peaking
in
these
fast
casuals
would
be
typically
on
Saturdays
and
weekends
and
things
when
they're,
not
there.
They're
closed
at
six
I
believe
you're
closed
at,
so
it
helps
for
the
dinner
traffic.
So
we're
always
not
only
in
this
shopping
center.
All
shopping
is
kind
of
looking
at.
These
are
complementary
tenants.
J
J
I've
mentioned
the
rules
and
regulations,
and
you
know
we're
in
favor
of
it
I'd
like
the
idea
that
you
know
they're
using
only
for
the
spaces
and
like
I,
said
I
think
just
human
nature
is
it
won't
stack
and
it'll
just
be
a
nice
compliment
to
them.
The
alternate
is
I'm
in
leasing
I'm
vice
president
of
leasing
for
Brix
Moore
I.
Think
the
likely
all
likelihood
is
that,
after
their
lease
expires,
if
they
don't
get
it
get
this
operation,
this
ATM
pneumatic
tube
set
up.
They
likely
won't
stay.
J
So
then,
as
a
company
we'll
be
backfilling
them
and
what
can
tell
you
around
the
State
of
Florida
outbuildings
we're
backfilling
with
fast
casual
food.
That's
like
so
we
would
backfill
them
with
fast
casual
food
which
puts
us
right
back
in
the
same
boat
with
more
pressure
on
the
parking.
So
we
think
this
is
the
best
alternative.
I
have
food
food
bank,
complimentary,
I,
think
I
can
move
the
employee,
so
I
think
there's
a
win-win
here
for
everybody
and
we're
trying
to
be
good,
neighbors
and
good
partners
with
the
city.
So
thank
you.
B
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
the
the
parking
is
issue
I
hadn't
thought
of
the
requirement
of
asking
you
know:
staff
to
park,
I
mean
I,
just
always
know
and
remember
you
know.
When
you're
in
those
service
oriented
positions
that
I
mean
you
know,
Ms
Keen
you're
not
allowed
to
park
your
car
in
the
front
of
city
hall.
There's
you
know
you,
you
leave
those
Prime
spots
available
for
your
customers,
so
we
certainly
can't
add
that
I,
don't
believe
into
our
decision
here.
B
But
I
I
do
appreciate
that
as
a
resident
that
you
know
the
these
businesses
very
transactional
in
nature,
you're
you're
running
in
to
get
a
smoothie
you're
running
into
a
Pokeball.
So
on
that
I
I
had
a
notation
here,
the
parking
spaces
that
are
in
this
diagram
that
would
be
remaining
to
the
left
of
the
ATM
drive-through
area.
There's
like
six
or
seven
of
them,
that's
like
directly
across
from
the
two
restaurants.
B
J
People
I've
got
a
challenge
in
doing
that,
because
that's
called
dedicated
parking
right
and
I
have
promised
other
tenants
in
the
center.
That
I
would
not
do
dedicated
parking,
but
I
can't
obligate
myself
to
do
that.
Right,
I
understand,
but
I
can't
obligate
myself
to
rules
and
regulations
and
I
can
assure
you
we
are
not
a
one-off
landlord,
we're
professional
landlords.
We
do
this
all
over.
J
The
country
I've
been
doing
this
for
many
many
years,
so
we're
very
sensitive
to
how
this
the
jigsaw
pieces
all
fit
together
with
a
shopping
center
and
how
it
all
works,
and
we
recognize
that
this
is
not
chops
of
Tarpon
to
the
people
who
live
here.
This
is
my
Publix
to
the
people
who
live
here
and
it's
part
of
their
lives,
and
so
it's
all
very
important
how
it
all
works
and
the
convenience
level
so
which,
like
I,
said
we're
trying
to
partner
with
our
tenant
we're
trying
to
partner
with
the
city.
J
We
didn't
formally
notify
him
I.
Was
there
today
I
ate
dinner
at
Tropical
Smoothie,
there's
a
sign
right
in
front
facing
those
two
entrances,
bright,
yellow
I!
Think
it
is
it's!
The
first
thing
I
saw
when
I
pulled
up
today.
It's
it's
well
known
and
I.
Think
I
can't
speak
for
them,
but
I'm
would
be
fairly
confident.
They
know
what
we're
doing
here.
B
B
Okay,
if
not,
then
we
will
close
the
public
comment
if
the
board
had
any
questions
or
comments
for
anyone
for
any
points
of
consideration
before
we
make
a
motion.
D
D
Because
you
could
make
that
argument
about
any
application
that
it
was
self-created
because
they
wanted
something,
and
this
is
a
specific
design,
so
that
I
don't
have
a
problem.
It
was
just
number
five,
but.
K
B
G
Okay,
so
this
property
is
located
in
the
Riverbend
subdivision
outlined
in
red
here
on
the
screen.
It
is
adjacent
to
the
Riverbend
Industrial
Park,
which
is
the
purple
pink
shaded
area
to
the
north,
and
it
is
separated
from
that
industrial
park
by
the
retention
Pond
for
the
entire
development.
G
G
The
applicants
are
requesting
variance
approval
to
reduce
the
required
separation
distance
between
a
pool
and
the
pool
screen
enclosure.
The
applicants
are
looking
to
install
a
pool
on
the
property
in
this
location
here
on
the
site
plan
and
they
would
like
to
have
a
screen
enclosure
around
that
pool,
which
is
the
red
line
shaded
here.
G
The
Land
Development
code
requires
a
minimum
separation,
distance
of
three
feet
between
the
enclosure
and
the
water's
edge
of
the
pool
and
they're
requesting
relief
to
13
inches,
and
it's
just
along
the
rear
portion
of
the
the
pool
zooming
into
the
proposed
site
plan.
The
lane
development
code
has
specific
setbacks
and
allowances
for
swimming
pools
and
pool
Screen
Enclosures.
The
minimum
rear
setback
for
a
pool-
and
this
is
measured
from
the
deck
of
the
pool-
is
five
feet
which
they
are
proposing
to
meet.
G
This
is
five
feet
from
the
rear
property
line,
and
an
enclosure
is
also
a
minimum
of
five
feet,
so
the
enclosure
will
meet
the
minimum
setback
of
the
rear.
But
in
addition,
when
you
have
a
pool
screen
enclosure
on
the
property,
the
code
requires
you
to
have
three
feet
in
between
the
water
and
the
enclosure.
G
So
really,
you
would
need
eight
feet
from
the
property
line
in
order
to
comply,
and
in
this
case,
along
the
rear,
they
only
have
13
inches
between
the
enclosure
and
the
pool
they
do
meet
the
required
separation
distance
on
both
sides.
They
also
have
three
feet
between
the
home
and
the
water's
edge,
and
they
do
meet
the
side,
setbacks
for
the
enclosure
and
the
pool.
G
G
They
have
15
feet
to
work
with
to
put
a
pool
in
the
backyard
when
looking
at
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
this
property
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
is
it
abuts
the
large
retention
Pond
that
then
separates
it
from
the
industrial
park
for
Riverbend,
and
so
there
are
no
residences
to
the
rear
of
the
subject
property.
G
Another
thing
to
consider
is
the
Board
of
Commissioners
has
instructed
planning
staff
to
review
the
Land
Development
code
for
some
potential
interim
updates,
and
this
is
some
simple
things
that
we
can
make
updates
to
in
advance
of
a
larger
update.
Once
our
comprehensive
plan
is
updated
and
adopted.
This
provision,
the
enclosure
separation
distance,
has
been
flagged
for
review.
G
I
know
that
you
may
all
recall
that
you've
seen
several
variances
in
the
past,
related
to
setbacks
of
the
pools
and
closures
and
the
separation,
which
is
why
it's
one
of
those
items
that
have
been
flagged
staff
has
pulled
other
Pinellas
County
jurisdictions,
whether
or
not
they
have
this
requirement
or
something
similar
to
the
requirement.
Just
for
some
comparisons,
we
did
receive
responses
from
the
cities
of
Clearwater,
Dunedin,
Oldsmar
and
Seminole
of
those
cities.
Seminole
was
the
only
one
to
have
a
similar
requirement,
but
it
was
only
one
foot
separation
at
this
time.
H
On
this
map,
the
two
doors
down
to
the
when
I'm,
looking
at
it
to
the
left
that
larger
lot
size
is
that
a
pool
in
that
picture
get
back.
Okay,
yes,
I
just
was
curious.
If
there
is
with
building
that
close
to
the
retention
area,
does
retention
areas
have
any
environmental.
G
Not
not
necessarily
in
a
in
a
general
context.
One
thing
is
the
retention.
Pond
is
within
its
own
parcel
configuration
so
when
that
pond
was
constructed,
the
slopes
of
the
pond,
how
it's
constructed,
how
it
drains
fills,
is
all
accommodated
within
those
property
lines.
So
it's
on
its
own
I'll,
say
private
piece
of
property
for
separation
as
far
as
impacts
to
environmental
I
I,
don't.
H
Have
anything
I'm
singing
like
do
they
need
a
Swift
Mud
permit
to
build
to
you
know
if
we
approve
the
variants
and
they're
building
that
much
closer
digging
deep
that
much
closer.
You
know
in
an
area
that
you
know,
Tarpon
Springs
is
known
to
have
a
lot
of
sinkholes
if
you're
digging
that
close
to
a
retention,
if
Swift
Mud
was
involved
in
the
design
of
that
I'm,
just
wondering
how
that
affects
the
design
of
the
retention
pond
in
any
environment.
You
know
because
some
of
the
variances
were
put
in
historically
because
of
stuff
like
that.
H
G
What
I
will
say
too,
so
if
this
moved
forward
to
building
permit
stage
during
that
stage,
any
sort
of
outside
jurisdiction
approval
that
we
require,
which
includes
Swift
Mud,
if
it's
required
for
this
review,
has
to
be
provided
at
that
time.
So
if
that
is
something
that
comes
up
during
the
permit
review,
then
we'd
have
to
obtain
it.
If,
for
some
reason,
they
can't
get
approval
from
Swift
Mud
or
whoever
what
other
ever,
what
other
entity
they
would
have
to
modify
their
plans.
G
Altavera,
it's
a
planned
development,
so
it's
a
little
different
than
our
typical
zoning
districts
and
I
will
pull
that
up
on
my
computer
I.
It's
either
I
think
it
might
be
10
feet
and
that
would
apply
to
the
the
structure
of
the
home.
The
pools
and
the
enclosures
have
different
setback
requirements,
but
let
me
pull
that
up
for
you.
B
For
a
point
of
clarification,
while
you're
doing
that,
we
are
looking
at
the
variance
for
the
setback
or
the
distance
I
guess
you
would
say
from
the
water's
edge
to
the
screen
where
it's
they're
asking
for
13
inches
and
the
code
is
three
feet
correct,
correct,
correct,
but
they
are
still
in
compliance
if
they
moved
forward
with
no
screen
they're
still
in
compliance
with
the
current
standards.
G
Correct
if
they
were
not
putting
enclosure
in
the
setbacks
would
be
met,
but
the
addition
of
that
enclosure,
because
we
have
that
separation
distance.
It
requires
more
space.
G
And
the
pool
I
I,
don't
believe
they've
submitted
plans
for
review
for
the
actual
pool
either
they
knew
that
when
they're
putting
the
pool
in
they
wanted
a
screen
enclosure,
they
were
informed
that
they
wouldn't
meet
the
setbacks.
They're
going
through
this
process
prior
to
submitting
okay.
F
F
G
M
Gulfstream
Port
3916
Tampa
Road
in
holzbar,
just
sandever,
yes,
is
one
of
the
owners,
primarily
with
this
pool
being
that
the
house
has
a
20-foot
setback
which
is
unusually
short
even
for
Tarpon
I.
Think
it's
25
in
the
homes
that
I've
done
out
here
for
many
years.
It's
a
very
tight
fit
Tarpon
Springs
is
the
only
community
and
I
work,
all
Three
Counties.
Sorry.
M
Sorry,
I'm
not
used
to
that
Tarpon
Springs,
the
only
community
that
I've
run
into
where
the
three
foot
requirement
on
all
sides
is
is
prevalent.
I,
understand,
you're,
going
into
review
of
that
beginning
of
next
year.
Being
that
the
house
is
so
tight
for
space
pools
are
typically
going
to
be
14
by
28.
M
So
you're
gonna
have
your
three
feet
like
anybody
else
would
want
from
the
house
out
as
a
minimum,
and
then
the
side
says
the
three:
the
width
of
the
pool
is
only
ten
and
a
half
feet
wide.
It's
not
like
Somebody's
gotta
swim
15
feet
across
water
to
help
somebody
it's
a
it's
very
short,
I
mean
10
and
a
half
feet
is
from
here
to
the
front
chairs
here.
So
it's
a
very
small
pool
to
begin
with
and
we're
just
asking
for
that
relief.
M
Being
in
the
business
like
I
said,
I've
worked
all
of
Pinellas
County
and,
as
you
stated
that
some
areas
apparently
have
this
rule
too,
you
are
the
only
municipality
where
I
have
run
into
it,
where
it's
come
up
several
times
in
other
areas,
out
of
ignorance
or
whatever.
It's
never
happened
to
me.
It's
just
it's
just
there.
So
we
just
like
that
relief
and
hope
that
we
can
do
that
for
for
The
Neighbors
here
in
Tarpon,
Springs.
B
So
I
had
a
question
because
you
know
my
and
I
think
Mr
Boris
he
hit
on
it
the
the
13
inches.
You
know
essentially
we're
talking
a
foot
there
that
that
kind
of
pinged
a
safety
issue
with
me
now.
That's
not
one
of
our
criteria
but
I
would
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
bring
that
to
the
attention.
Is
this
something
that
you
are
seeing
I
mean
this?
Is
your
industry
in.
M
Our
industry,
it's
not
so
much
really
the
I
think
people
come
to
some
conclusion
that
if,
if
somebody's
hurt
in
a
pool
you're
going
to
grab
them
and
put
them
out
on
a
deck
and
lay
them
out
for
for
help
and
so
forth,
the
only
requirement
that
the
pool
industry
has
is
in
the
deep
end.
If
it's
over
four
and
a
half
feet
deep,
you
need
to
put
in
a
bench
which
is
called
a
swim
out
because
it's
in
the
deep
end,
as
opposed
to
a
ladder
to
get
them
out.
M
M
So
getting
somebody
out
is
not
going
to
be
any
more
of
a
problem
than
typical
yeah.
There's
only
the
foot.
Let's
say
it's
a
foot
wide
in
the
back
side.
I've
done
plenty
of
pools
and
Hillsborough
County,
Pasco,
County
and
Pinellas
County,
where
you
do
have
just
a
foot
and
you
nobody
wants
a
foot,
and
nobody
comes
up
to
us
in
this
business
and
say:
hey
I
only
want
a
foot
of
deck
on
the
back
side.
You
only
do
it
because
you
have
to
your
your
lot
area
is
so
small.
M
Your
restrictions
from
an
oversized
house,
especially
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
comes
in
they're
building
mansions
on
these
small
Lots.
You
wind
up
realizing
that
a
12
by
24
foot
pool
in
some
areas
is
now
becoming
a
big
pool
when
I
had
brown
hair
and
a
lot
more
of
it.
I
mean
20
by
40
was
a
pool
18
by
36.
M
15
by
30
was
small
so
and
now
I
do
12
by
24s
12
by
26
12
by
27
all
day
long
just
to
meet
these
requirements
because
the
houses
get
bigger.
The
Lots
start
shrinking
the
municipalities,
allow
houses
to
be
20
feet
away
from
the
back
of
the
yard,
25
feet
so
forth,
and
let's
face
it,
many
yards
back
in
the
day.
We're
40
50
feet
deep.
M
You
could
do
just
about
anything.
You
want
I
had
a
house
in
Clearwater
the
back
of
that
it
was
a
very
small
lot
55
wide,
but
from
the
back
of
the
house,
I
had
100
feet.
I
ran
the
pool,
lengthwise
I
had
so
much
space,
so
these
yards
have
been
really
cut
down
so
that
the
builders
could
provide
more
houses
for
the
community.
M
So
for
them
that's
an
advantage,
and
quite
frankly,
for
it's
an
advantage
to
the
homeowners
too.
There's
places
to
live
and
it
helps
provide
housing
for
for
many
people,
but
it
does
make
it
tough
for
homeowners
to
enjoy
Florida
and
as
far
as
getting
a
pool
and,
quite
frankly,
a
10
and
a
half
foot
wide
pool
seems
crazy
to
me,
but
I
sell
them
all
the
time.
It's
because
there's
no
room
the
safety
Factor
in
the
pool
industry.
It's
it's
nice
to
think.
M
In
those
terms,
it
really
is
to
say:
oh
if
you
have
three
feet
of
deck
reality,
if
somebody's
drowning
out
in
a
pool,
it's
usually
because
they're
by
themselves
and
I,
don't
care
if
they
have
10
feet
of
deck
they're
not
going
to
make
it.
If
there's
people
out
there
they're
going
to
be
saved
and
a
10
and
a
half
foot
wide
pool
is
only
five
and
a
half
feet
deep
you're
going
to
get
somebody
out
of
that
water.
Pretty
quick.
B
A
B
I'm
beyond
shocked
that
I
am
saying
yes
on
this
I.
Never
thought
I
would
do
it,
but
there's
compelling
evidence
to
the
contrary,
so
happy
swimming.
B
Happy
happy
screening
screening,
yes,
okay,
so
those
are
our
three
applications
in
front
of
us
today.
Are
there
any
comments
or
notifications
from
our
staff?
We
have
the
new
person.
G
Yes,
look
at
that
smile
I
do
have
comments.
I
just
want
to
introduce
all
of
you
to
your
new
alternate
board
member
Robert
Wood
he's
here,
observing
your
fine
work
tonight
excellent
questioning
all
day,
and
we
will
be
doing
an
orientation
with
him.
I
believe
next
week,
I'll
be
working
with
him
and
then
I'll
get
with
the
clerks
and
hopefully
next
meeting
he'll
be
able
to
participate
if
needed.
So
we're
happy
to
have
a.
We
have
a
full
board
with
right
now.
H
B
Well,
that
is
fantastic.
So
any
board
comments.
G
Clerk
on
the
terms,
so
we
can
always
follow
up.
B
B
Well,
fantastic,
so
you
know
what
we'll
have
another
meeting
to
enjoy
a
full
board
with
two
full
applicant
or
alternates
and
then
you're
just
going
to
upset
the
apple
card.
I.
Don't.
B
Okay,
do
you
have
a
meeting
in
August
fantastic?
So
any
other
board
comments.
You
know
that
don't
mean
resignation.
B
Well,
Mr
wood
welcome.
We
typically
do
not
have
ATMs.
That
was
a
new
one
for
us,
so
you
know
Mr
Grossman
has
been
amazing.
You
know
catching
on
to
things.
Thank
you
so
much
for
stepping
up
today.
So
we
do
have
a
meeting
next
month.