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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners July 10, 2018
Description
Regular Session
A
A
C
God
of
all
you
sustained
us
this
day
today,
Lord,
we
thank
you
for
life's
blessings.
We
thank
you
for
the
green
pastures
and
the
steel
waters
that
restore
us
tonight.
Oh
God,
as
we
head
into
this
meeting,
sustain
our
city,
sustain
our
government
and
give
us
wisdom
and
give
us
a
sense
of
what's
best
in
the
community.
I,
pray,
grace
and
peace
to
all,
amen.
A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
our
Commission
meeting
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight.
We
will
start
our
meeting
tonight
with
a
public
comments
on
the
items
that
will
not
be
discussed
this
evening.
If
you
have
any
comments,
please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
you'll
be
given
four
minutes.
Yes,
sir.
A
You
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
also
I
like
to
let
you
know
that
I
had
a
meeting
with
hucko
Commission
Eggers
yesterday
and
you
sure
me
that
it's
on
the
schedule
to
be
done.
Thank
you.
Any
other
public
comments
on
this
item.
Any
of
any
comments
on
the
items
that
will
not
be
discussed
tonight.
I
hear
none.
Thank
you,
city
clerk.
If
you
please
read
the
public
comments,
public
comments,
public.
B
Comments,
preservation
of
order
and
Decorah
the
city
manager
shall
note
on
the
agenda
and
the
mayor
shall
inform
members
of
the
public
that
no
speaker
shall
have
the
right
to
address
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
more
than
four
minutes
on
any
particular
item.
Members
of
the
public
present
at
the
meeting
may
donate
their
time
to
speaker
to
extend
the
speakers
time,
but
such
donations
shall
forfeit
the
donors
right
to
speak.
B
The
speaker
shall
identify
the
person
who
have
donated
their
speaking
time
by
standing
in
the
audience
when
they're
recognized
each
donation
shall
extend
the
speaker's
time
in
additional
two
minutes.
In
no
event
shall
the
speaker's
time
be
extended
beyond
ten
minutes
of
total
speaking
time.
Any
deviation
from
this
rule
must
be
approved
by
the
consensus
of
the
majority
of
the
board,
but
no
vote
need
be
taken
to
waive
this
requirement.
Each
person
addressing
the
City
Commission
shall
approach
the
podium
shall
give
his
or
her
name
and
address
in
an
audible
tone
of
voice.
B
All
remarks
shall
be
addressed
to
the
City
Commission
as
a
body
and
not
to
any
member
thereof.
All
speakers,
including
City
Commission,
shall
be
recognized
by
the
mayor,
no
person
other
than
members
of
the
City
Commission
and
the
person
having
the
floor
shall
be
permitted
to
enter
into
any
discussion
either
directly
or
through
members
of
the
City
Commission.
B
No
questions
you'll
be
asked
to
individual
Commission
members,
except
through
the
mayor,
any
person
making
personal
and
pertinent
or
slanderous
remarks
or
who
shall
become
boisterous
while
addressing
the
City
Commission
may
be
requested
to
leave
the
meeting
and
may
for
withhe
be
barred
from
further
audience.
At
that
meeting,
the
mayor
shall
preserve
order
and
decorum
and
shall
prevent
attacks
on
personalities
or
the
impinging
of
motives
of
particular
members
and
shall
prevent
digression
from
question
under
discussion.
The
mayor
shall
ensure
that
no
boisterous
conduct
such
as
cheering
clapping
or
the
light
shall
be
permitted
during
debate.
B
A
The
community's
economic
prosperity
through
increased
property
values,
increased
tourism,
the
attraction
and
retention
of
businesses
and
crime
reduction,
and
whereas
bar
recreation
areas
are
fundamental
to
the
environmental
well-being
of
our
community
and
what
has
our
parks
in
nature,
recreation
areas
insert
the
ecological
beauty
of
our
community
and
provide
a
place
for
children
and
adults
to
connect
with
nature
and
recreate
outdoors
and
now,
therefore,
I
crystallises
by
virtue
of
the
authority
vested
in
me.
As
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
do
hereby
proclaim
July
2018
as
Parks
and
Recreation
month.
Mr.
E
Good
evening,
Paul
Smith
public
services,
director
I,
want
to
recognize
Tom,
punchin,
Public
Works
Director
with
me.
It's
a
shared
responsibility.
It's
a
shared
responsibility
that
we
enjoy
fulfilling
and
we
hope
the
community
appreciates
the
fine
parks
and
recreation
programs
that
our
leadership
supports.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
F
F
So
you
know
it's
a
constant
upkeep
and
there's
there's
a
lot
to
be
done
all
the
time
so
and
not
only
the
parks
but
the
recreation
department
does
an
excellent
job
between
the
dance
academy
and
and
the
summer
program
sends
a
happy
feet.
A
soccer
program.
You
guys
do
an
amazing
job
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
How
many
parks
we're
well
together.
G
G
A
H
Future
trends
for
libraries
nationwide
are
pretty
global
because
everybody
is
affected
by
the
same
things
number
one
and
one
dear
to
my
heart
is
aging,
and
people
are
retiring.
Now,
they're
looking
for
things
to
do,
they're
looking
for
places
to
volunteer,
so
our
library
fits
into
all
of
that
very
well.
H
H
H
We
have
a
number
of
different
library
programs,
actually
hundreds
of
programs
over
the
years,
but
we
also
have
programs
for
all
ages.
You'll
have
the
children's
programming.
We
currently
have
a
new
librarian
over
our
youth
services
department,
and
that
would
be
sandy
rodas,
joy,
retired
just
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
sandy
is
not
mr.
step
taking
over
the
children's
programming
in
the
summertime
is
so
important
because
the
kids
really
need
to
have
someplace
to
go
and
play
and
learn.
I.
H
Know
that
Chris
Ella,
who
says,
could
probably
tell
you
much
more
about
this
senior
information
center
than
I
could
even
begin
since
this
has
been
his
baby
right
from
what
years
ago
now
I
guess
the
the
senior
information
center
meets
in
the
conference
room
at
the
library
two
days
a
week
on
Mondays
and
Thursdays
from
10:00
to
2:00.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
the
senior
information
center,
please
do
make
yourself
familiar
with
it.
I
am
sure
that
there
are
many
residents
of
the
city
who
could
use
the
services
being
offered
there.
H
H
We
have
a
number
of
partners
in
the
community
and
even
more
so
as
each
year
goes
on,
we
have
found
that
working
within
partnerships
we
get
more
accomplished
to
be
able
to
produce
programs
that
are
even
more
relevant
to
what's
going
on
in
this
city.
Our
library
staff
attends
First
Fridays
and
makes
people
aware
of
where
the
library
is
and
what
services
are
available
at
the
library
and
I
think
they
have
some
fun
at
first
Friday
as
well.
H
One
of
the
big
partnerships
we
have
as
a
library
is
with
the
Friends
of
the
library,
and
you
know,
I,
wear
another
hat
with
that
when
I'm
the
treasurer,
currently
the
treasurer
of
the
Friends
of
the
library,
we
fully
support
our
library
and
try
to
give
as
much
money
to
it
as
we
possibly
can.
Last
year
we
gave
them
a
total
of
$35,000,
but
not
only
do
we
manage
the
investments
for
gifts
to
the
library.
H
H
We
have
volunteers
who
come
and
provide
help
with
computers.
We
have
people
who
come
to
the
library
to
learn
how
to
use
their
Kindle
or
their
iPad,
and
the
librarians
are
always
willing
to
help.
But
we
also
have
volunteers
who
are
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
do
one
one
training
and
of
course
we
have
volunteers
that
appear
in
the
Christmas
parade
and
the
Christmas
parade.
We
have
a
float.
H
We
have
an
outstanding
selection
of
databases
at
the
library
if
you
have
not
been
online
and
gone
to
the
databases
at
the
library,
you're
really
missing
out
on
some
things.
There
are
a
lot
of
us
who
really
want
to
learn
more
about
something
like
Photoshop
and
you
can
go
to
the
library
and
or
go
on-line
at
the
library.
H
It's
free
and
you
can
do
it
at
home,
the
most
recent
one
that
I'm
really
happy
with
it
has
one
called
novelist
plus
and
if
you
are
one
who
does
book
clubs
or
book
groups,
and
you
need
to
pick
books
for
it,
novelist
is
the
place
to
go.
You
can
get
recommendations
for
good
books
for
for
the
book
club,
but
if
you're
just
looking
to
figure
out
what
you
want
to
read,
you
can
go
to
novelist
and
see
what's
available.
H
H
Recently,
over
the
last
year,
we
have
added
these
wonderful
new
features.
One
of
them
is
the
Museum
Pass
program,
and
we
recently
just
added
the
Mauryan
Art
Center
hand,
the
Chihuly
collection.
We
also
have
the
great
explorations
Children's
Museum,
the
Florida
Holocaust,
Museum
and
and
Museum
of
Fine
Arts
in
st.
Petersburg.
We
are
currently
working
on
getting
the
leaper
Ratner
involved
with
that
they
want
to
do
it.
They
just
have
to
get
their.
H
H
Of
course.
This
is
one
that
I
just
heard
about
last
night.
I
already
knew
about
it,
the
seed
library
but
I
heard
from
someone
at
the
community
garden
and
garden
club
last
night
as
a
matter
of
fact
that
they
didn't
realize
that
when
you
take
a
raised
bed
at
the
community
garden,
you
have
to
plant
it
with
something
within
two
weeks
of
getting
your
raised
bed
that
they
were
trying
to
figure
out.
H
We
have
one
at
Craig
Park,
which
is
one
of
the
easiest
to
get
to
and
I
think
there's
one
at
the
dog
park
too,
but
the
little
free
libraries
you
it.
It
is
the
take
a
book
and
then
leave
a
book
if
you're
coming
to
get
a
book,
bring
a
book
with
you
and
leave
a
book.
But
we
are
checking
out
the
little
libraries
all
the
time
to
be
sure
that
we
have
them
stocked
with
children's
and
adults
books.
H
H
H
The
launch
pads
and
if
you
haven't,
played
with
the
launch
pads,
yet
we
have
three
of
them
for
adults
and
then
we
have
five
I
think
for
teenagers
and
the
rest
is
30-some,
I.
Think
for
children
of
different
ages.
The
launch
pads
are
little
computers
with
educational
games
on
them
and
they
don't
hook
up
to
the
Internet.
H
We
also
have
the
steam
carts.
That
is
things
on
the
cart
that
relate
to
science,
technology,
engineering,
art
and
math,
and
the
kids
can
take
things
off
of
that
cart
to
play
with
educationally
play
with.
We
also
have
the
American
flag
retirement
box
now.
So
if
you
have
an
old
American
flag,
bring
it
to
the
library
and
put
it
in
the
retirement
box
and
the
Boy
Scouts
or
I
guess
it's,
the
Explorer
scouts
will
take
care
of
disposing
of
them
correctly.
I
think
they
normally
take
them
out.
H
H
And
here's
our
mission,
we
usually
would
start
off
with
the
mission,
but
I
think
after
you've
seen
what
what
the
library
does
or
a
compilation
of
what
the
library
does.
You
can
see
that
they
are
living
up
to
the
mission
to
provide
excellent
library
and
information
services
to
fulfill
the
needs
of
the
users,
to
enhance
their
quality
of
life
and
to
be
a
focal
point
of
the
community
and
at
the
end
for
you
all.
H
The
library
when
it
was
at
craig
park
is
one
of
the
major
reasons
that
my
husband
and
I
bought
our
home
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
in
1992,
and
when
you
moved
it
to
build
the
new
one
up
here
on
Lemmon
Street,
you've
just
made
it
even
better.
So
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
be
a
patron
of
the
library
and
I
hope.
People
who
haven't
been
to
the
library
will
take
some
time
to
go
up
there.
It
is
a
major
jewel
in
this
city,
scram,
Thank,
You,.
A
Mrs.
Pearson
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
advisory
board,
the
library,
Advisory
Board,
via
Friends
of
the
library,
all
the
volunteers
and
all
the
staff
for
your
support
and
the
services
that
you're
providing
to
the
library
and
to
the
city
information
side.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
I
Thank
you,
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all.
First,
you
are
board
of
volunteers
and
you
do
excellent
work
at
the
library.
I
know
you've
faced
some
unique,
unique
challenges
there
with
the
location.
You
all
do
a
very
good
job
of
serving
me
and
be
the
the
Montara
community
and
you're
always
thinking
of
innovative
ways
to
but
to
provide
services
on
a
very
limited
budget.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
work.
It
is
it.
It
is
noted.
I
Well,
that
was
I
know
in
the
budget.
This
is
for
us
not
for
you
so
much,
but
we
almost
conditioned
our
renewal
of
our
$5,000
to
the
museum
on
that.
So
I,
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
be
hard-lined
about
it.
You
know
it's
gonna
be
in
the
budget.
I
assume
again
this
summer
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
passes
or
there's
no
excuse
not
have
those
passes
in
our
library,
the
city
giving
$5,000
a
year.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
accomplished
thing.
It's.
A
F
You
sharing,
and
we
appreciate
all
of
you
for
what
you
do
and
Sharon
I.
Don't
wonder
you
wear
two
hats
at
the
library
but
hats
all
over
the
city
with
the
Garden
Club
and
the
Women's
Club,
and
all
the
volunteering
that
you
do.
You're
amazing
woman,
but
yes,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
I
know
the
seed
program
really
took
off
and
I
was
happy
because
of
the
community
garden
initiative,
so
I'm
glad
that
that's
been
successful
and
I
love
the
little
libraries
and
and
Maggie
does
too
so
appreciate
those
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
J
You
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
and
the
library
board
and
the
Friends
of
the
library
and
all
the
volunteers
that
you
have
I
know
you
couldn't
do
half
of
what
you
do
without
all
of
your
volunteers.
It
is
so
important
to
us
as
a
city
as
well
that
we
have
that
people
come
out
and
help.
We
have
a
phenomenal
library
and
I've
supported
you
for
years,
and
the
staff
is
great.
It's
a
great
experience
just
to
go
out
visit
the
library.
It
is
a
great
experience
and
I.
J
You
know
every
year
that
you
present
to
us
there's
always
something
new
coming
up.
You
have
new
ideas.
You
have
new
technology,
so
you're
always
looking
ahead
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
know
you
have
so
many
people
visiting
every
day.
Cuz
I
walk
in
the
library
quite
a
bit
and
got
a
full
full
house
in
there.
So
hopefully,
one
day
like
I
said
before,
I
really
would
like
to
see
the
library
expand.
I
think
that
we
are
ready
for
that
very
soon.
J
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
this
item
here?
None.
Thank
you.
We
are
now
going
through
the
consent
agenda.
Item
number
three:
is
the
award
file
number
1801
29
CCM,
fencing
gate
operators
in
handrails,
Pinellas,
County
cooperative
contract
number
one?
Seventy
eight
zero
one,
two
to
be
L
and
number
four
is
the
ratified
and
increase
revenue
file
and
review
file.
Number
1800,
23
CRS
part
equipment,
parts
supplies
services
to
the
Lake
County
contract,
which
is
17060.
I
I
A
M
2019
October
1
2018
through
September
30
2019,
increasing
water
rates
each
year,
beginning
on
October
1
2019
through
September
30
2028,
establishing
a
flat
monthly
sewer
rate,
decreasing
the
rate
of
increase
for
sewer
rates
for
fiscal
year,
2019
October
1
2018
through
September
30
2019,
increasing
sewer
and
reclaimed
water
rates
each
year,
beginning
October,
1
2019
through
September,
30
2028
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
has
been
in
the
first
reading
or
December
2018
16.
M
E
Good
evening,
Paul
Smith
public
services
director.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
site
here
tonight.
Our
first
public
hearing
for
the
purpose
of
the
public
hearing
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
presentation
that
outlines
what
got
us
to
this
point
and
the
ordinance
in
front
of
you
that
were
asking
you
to
approve
this.
E
First
slide
talks
about
what
got
us
up
to
the
first
public
hearing
on
May
8th.
So
just
please
take
note
of
that.
When
I
read
these
numbers,
that's
the
first
proposal.
That's
since
been
revised,
but
just
by
way
of
history,
the
city's
current
10-year
plan
is
set
to
expire
next
year.
There's
already
an
approved
increase
of
6.75%
in
place.
A
water
and
sewer
rate
study
was
completed
with
a
new
10-year
plan
and
that
would
include
replacing
that
already
approved
6.75%
with
a
new
number
in
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
and
then
carrying
through
to
fiscal
year
2028.
E
The
study
recommended
the
initial
draft
of
a
5%
increase
in
that
first
year,
followed
by
two
point:
nine
percent
thereafter
in
February
2018.
That
plan
was
presented
to
our
budget
Advisory
Committee,
who
unanimously
recommended
approval
of
the
plan,
the
city
mailed
out
notices
to
all
the
customers,
about
the
rate
hearing
on
May,
8th
and
on
May
8th.
That
plan
was
presented
and
it
was
not
approved.
E
We
heard
a
fair
amount
of
input
at
the
hearing
and,
to
summarize
it
quite
simply,
the
main
points
were
the
past:
increases
were
high
and
the
cumulative
affected.
The
proposed
10-year
plan
was
also
a
high
number
community
communities
that
irrigate
with
potable
drinking
water
have
high
bills,
and
there
was
also
a
comment
that
we
need
to
put
all
the
numbers
out
to
the
public.
So
that's
also
something
that
we
heard
and
addressed.
E
So
we
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
based
on
the
input
we
reviewed
the
comments
and
the
concerns
with
the
goals
of
addressing
the
customer
concerns,
also
keeping
up
with
our
continued
infrastructure
needs
and
meeting
the
financial
requirements
of
the
utility.
We
revisited
the
study
and
in
order
to
accomplish
a
reduce
rate,
we
went
and
reduced
our
capital
projects
by
about
three
and
a
half
million
over
the
10-year
period.
E
We
also
wanted
to
provide
an
improved
option
for
those
without
access
to
reclaim
water
or
wells.
So
we
went
back
and
reduced
the
irrigation
meter
charges,
and
so
the
readiness
to
serve
charge,
which
is
$17.40
per
month
currently
is
proposed
to
be
eliminated
for
the
residential
meter
of
the
5/8
inch
by
3/4
size,
and
this
would
be
for
customers
that
already
have
a
water
meter.
E
An
overview
of
the
plan
in
graphical
form.
Here
the
top
is
the
current
plan,
as
you
can
see
fiscal
year,
19
on
the
far
right
and
a
yellow
highlight
that's
that
already
approved
6.75%,
that
overall
average
for
that
prior
10
years
was
six
point
three
percent
per
year.
The
proposed
plan
moving
forward
would
replace
that
with
a
lower
4%
rate
at
first
year,
followed
by
2.75
percent
and
the
overall
average
of
that
is
2.8
percent.
So,
as
you
can
see
it's
less
than
half
of
the
previous
10-year
plan
on
an
annual
average.
E
This
also
compares
very
favorably
with
the
regional
average
for
water
and
sewer
rates
increases
per
year
of
3.6
percent
in
the
southeast.
We're
recommending
two
point:
eight
seven,
five,
it's
also
in
line
with
other
utilities
such
as
cable
and
garbage
collection
and
I-
think
you're
going
to
see
energy
prices
were
artificially
low.
Those
will
probably
start
climbing
up
to
be
closer
to
those
other
averages.
E
So
we
did
a
more
detailed
communication
in
these
bills
that
went
out
leading
up
to
this
hearing.
We've
presented
this
information.
Basically
that's
in
this
presentation
here
tonight
we
talked
about
our
reduced
annual
plan,
the
reduced
irrigation
meter
costs
and
also
advertise
the
hearings
that
are
tonight
and
also
on
July
24th.
We
also
provided
information
where
you
could
get
increased
information
numbers
on
the
website
and
we
provided
a
point
of
contact,
a
single
point
of
contact
for
any
concerns
or
calls.
E
We
also
responded
to
some
of
the
input
we
got.
The
public
hearing,
the
Tarpan
key
community
was
very
well
represented
and
had
some
concerns,
some
of
them
specific
to
their
community,
so
the
city
manager
and
the
Commission
suggested
we
have
a
workshop,
and
we
did
that
on
June
13th,
we
hosted
it
at
the
RO
facility.
I
feel
like
it
was
a
very
productive
meeting.
E
I
did
also
note
that
there
seemed
to
be
a
real
interest
in
more
conservation
type
things,
irrigation
techniques,
watering
restrictions,
those
sorts
of
things
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
of
community-wide,
so
we'll
be
looking
to
do
more
of
that.
It's
really
not
in
the
interest
of
the
utility
for
customers
to
have
high
bills.
It's
a
limited
water
resource.
So
it's
not
something
that
we
want
customers
to
to
waste.
E
The
remaining
recommendations
are
from
the
May
8th
hearing
unchanged
and
that's
applying
the
same
rate
plan
to
the
reclaim
water
rates,
which
are
currently
95
cents
per
thousand
gallons.
Increasing
the
meter
tapping
fee
for
reclaimed
water
service
from
$300
to
$350,
and
this
is
reflecting
the
cost
of
the
meter
and
that's
provided
with
that
service,
establishing
a
flat
monthly
sewer
rate
for
those
without
water
service
and
miscellaneous
administrator
revisions.
E
So
in
closing,
I
want
to
come
back
to
those
four
main
points
with
how
we've
responded
to
those
the
past
increases
were
high.
I
want
to
note
that
they
were
necessary.
Part
of
our
infrastructure,
investment
for
both
water
and
sewer
and
I
feel
they
positioned
us
now
for
a
sustainable
I
call
it
a
low
inflationary
10-year
plan.
You
know
the
rule
of
thumb
you
always
hear
is
3%
is
inflation,
so
we
really
work
to
get
something
even
below
that
at
2.75
percent.
The
cumulative
effect
of
the
tenure
increase
is
high.
E
Again,
we've
responded
to
that
by
lowering
it
further.
I
do
feel
like
this
is
about
as
low
as
I
could
responsibly
recommend
to
you
and
keep
our
infrastructure
going
in
the
right
direction.
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
out
there,
communities
that
irrigate
with
potable
drinking
water
have
high
bills,
I
believe
the
resident
to
irrigation,
meter,
improved
options.
We're
recommending
are
going
to
address
that
concern,
but
I
also
want
to
continue
our
conservation
initiatives
and,
finally,
we've
presented
that
additional
information
on
the
city's
website
to
make
it
available
to
our
customers.
A
Smith,
thank
you
and
mr.
lacor.
Is
that
one?
Thank
you
also,
and
all
the
staff
involved
and
well
thank
you
for
reviewing
the
proposed
water
sewer
plant
and
reducing
even
further,
based
on
the
recommendations
that
we
got
from
the
residents
then
from
the
last
meeting
and
I
also
like
to
congratulate
you
for
a
job
well
done
on
the
Tahoe,
meaning
that
you
have
with
the
residence
with
tarp
and
key.
It
was
very
informative
and
I
got
positive
input.
These
residents
are
very
happy
with
the
information
they
got.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Man.
Vice
mayor
Panther,.
I
As
I
told
you
in
our
executive
session,
I
was
impressed
rable
to
go
back
and
find
further
savings
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much
for
meeting
with
these
communities,
especially
tarpon.
He
has
something
that
has
some
unique
challenges
and
a
finding
ways
that
we
can
count
them.
I
There
might
be
a
little
bit
different
and
I
think
it
just
goes
to
show
you
the
full-service
city,
that
we
offer
here
and
not
a
customer
service
that
you
probably
might
not
find
at
least
to
this
level
in
other
cities,
so
I'm,
very
proud
of
you
and
staff
or
bar
well
what
you've
done
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
thing.
Thank.
J
You
well
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
basically
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
this
I
know
it
kind
of
took
everybody
back
a
little
bit.
Staff
did
we.
You
know,
but
I
think
this
is
a
better
plan
and
you've
told
us
that
of
you
ensured
us
that
this
won't
jeopardize
our
infrastructure
by
cutting
just
back
just
a
little
bit.
So
you
listen
to
the
community,
you
listen
to
our
residents
and
you
listen
to
the
to
our
board
and
I.
J
F
Paul
for
going
back
and
revisiting
the
plan
after
our
mates
meeting
and
the
concerns
that
were
brought
up.
My
concern
back
then,
was
that
we're
still
going
to
be
responsible
and
have
the
the
means
for
the
infrastructure
that
we're
going
to
need
in
the
future
and
that
we
don't
lower
it
to
the
point
that
we
damage
what
we
we
need
to
do
for
the
city.
L
You
mayor
mr.
Smith,
thank
you
for
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
coming
up
with
this
plan
and
to
your
staff.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
hours
that
go
into
this.
We've
had
multiple
conversations
digging
a
little
bit
further
and
I
do
know
it's
a
delicate
balance
between
looking
at
the
current
rates
and
also
looking
at
our
infrastructure,
making
sure
that
Tarpon
has
one
of
the
best
water
supplies
in
the
county
in
the
area.
L
Well,
price
cost
increases
are
never
an
exciting
thing
to
have
to
address,
but
it
is
a
one
of
those
difficult
things
that
we
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
and
I
do
realize
that
the
infrastructure
is
a
very
important
process:
Tarpon
having
one
of
the
top
water
treatment
plants
and
also
one
of
the
top
water
plants
in
the
area.
Is
it
the
southwest
portion
of
Florida
by.
L
N
A
D
The
whole
issue
was
treated
with
dignity
and
respect
objectivity
in
looking
out
for
the
whole
city,
and
we
just
want
you
to
know
that.
We
appreciate
that
we
appreciate
the
town
hall
meetings.
Lots
of
work
went
into
that
lots
of
data
gathering
answering
the
questions.
Presentations
setting
aside
side
shops
conservation,
education
I
mean
it
was
it
was
the
whole
gambit
was
above
and
beyond,
and
I
just
want
everyone
to
know
that.
Thank
you
for
allowing
mr.
Smith
to
re
rehash
that
out
and
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it
again.
D
O
P
My
name
is
Peter
Joseph,
honest
I'm
at
26
parking
court
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I
just
wanted
to
use
this
opportunity
to
just
see
if
everyone's
aware
of
a
couple
of
things
that
are
happening
with
the
water
department,
some
of
the
billing
issues
to
see,
if
perhaps
you
guys
might
want
to
consider
making
a
couple
of
changes.
The
first
thing
is
is
that
the
water
department
charges
roughly
about
$60
a
month
to
a
meter
that
is
having
zero
use.
That's
turned
off.
No
other
utility
is
able
to
do
that.
Electric
company
can't
do
that.
P
A
cable
TV
company
can't
do
that.
Nobody
can
do
it,
but
if
you're
not
getting
service
at
your
house
and
your
meters
off
Tarpons
still
charges
60
a
month,
there's
sewer
charges
in
there
there's
water
charges
in
it.
There's
garbage
charges
in
there
for
a
vacant
property,
for
whatever
reason
it
seems
unfair.
It's
been
going
on
for
years.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
point
out.
I,
don't
know!
If
people
know
that
I
don't
know
the.
P
If
it's
legal
but
I
guess
it
is
because
it's
been
going
on
for
years,
it
doesn't
seem
fair,
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
utility
should
be
able
to
charge
that
kind
of
money
for
no
service
being
provided.
The
second
thing
that
I'd
like
to
bring
up
that's
a
little
bit
more
unique
and
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
aware
of
this
as
well.
Is
that
my
mother
owned
a
property
in
Tarpon
and
she
became
very
sick
and
an
invalid
and
spent
about
three
and
a
half
years
in
a
nursing
home.
P
Her
Social
Security
check
went
to
help
pay
for
the
nursing,
so
she
had
no
other
income
that
came
in
she
paid
for
her
home
and
had
paid
off
her
mortgage
working
hard,
her
whole
life
and
owned
her
home,
free
and
clear,
because
she
was
an
invalid.
The
property
taxes
for
the
county
were
waived
because
they
have
a
clause
there
for
people
do
not
get
taxed
property
taxes,
if
they're
in
wheelchairs
or,
if
they're
invalids.
P
P
There
were
no
other
charges
except
the
water
bill.
The
water
bill
kept
coming,
even
though
the
water
bill
was
turned
off
and
if
her
sons
weren't
paying
her
water
bill
for
on
a
property
that
didn't
have
any
usage
for
three
and
a
half
years,
which
amounted
to
about
$2,000,
the
city
would
have
slapped
liens
on
the
property
of
a
woman
who
had
worked
hard.
Her
whole
life
to
own
her
house
pay.
Her
mortgage
off
was
an
invalid
in
a
nursing
home
and
you
know,
could
have
stood
to
lose
her
house,
which
seems
like
that's
unfair.
P
N
P
Q
Good
evening,
Justin
feci
for
6-7
Brown,
Street
Tarpon
Springs
I
just
wanted
to
speak
strongly
in
favor
of
mr.
Smith's,
and
this
current
proposed
rate
increase
I
might
be
the
only
one
in
the
room
that
thinks
it's
a
good
idea
to
raise
our
rates,
but
it
is
a
good
idea,
because
investing
in
infrastructure
in
the
long
run
is
the
appropriate
response.
I
might
go
so
far
as
that.
It's
unfortunate
that
a
very,
very
small
group
was
able
to
take
good
investment
dollars
that
we're
probably
gonna
regret
10
years
down
the
line.
Q
Those
are
the
kind
of
decisions
that
led
the
city
of
st.
Petersburg
to
have
horrible
flooding
storm
related
issues
because
they
didn't
invest
enough
in
infrastructure,
so
this
resident
is
happily
gonna
pay
his
rate
and
hope
that
we
continue
to
invest
deeply
into
our
sewer
water
and
storm
water
systems.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
R
Hi
Liz
Lieber
freed
1107
Sunset
Drive
Turpin
Springs
I.
It's
my
first
visit
to
a
meeting
like
this
because
I'm
specifically
interested
in
this
information
to
piggyback
off
of
a
couple
of
the
other
comments.
Number
one
I
have
a
question
as
to
what
we're
sacrificing
by
this
trade-off
for
the
rate
decrease,
although
I
think
the
current
rate
and
the
proposed
previous
rate
were
excessively
high
in
comparison
to
other
areas.
I've
lived
in
I
do
agree
with
this
change.
R
But
again
my
concern
is
what's
being
sacrificed
as
far
as
our
infrastructure
or
previous
plan
Roger,
that
I
mean
I
live
in
an
area
that
frequently
floods
and
I
know.
There's
been
different
projects
regarding
drainage
on
street
corners
and
things
like
that
which
would
be
Public
Works
as
well.
I.
Don't
want
to
sacrifice
that,
however,
to
also
comment.
As
far
as
the
no
service
fees
I
was
a
new
resident
to
Tarpon
in
2010
I
bought
a
house
that
was
pre
foreclosure
and
when
I
came
to
the
water
department
to
turn
on
the
water.
R
In
my
name,
there
was
a
69
dollar
bill
there
I.
That
was
not
part
of
my
closing.
It
was
not
announced
to
me
it
was
not
delivered
to
me
at
that
time.
I
contacted
and
luckily
the
previous
owner
was
nice
enough
to
come
and
write
me
a
check
because
I
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
have
service
turned
on
without
paying
that
additional
fee.
I
do
agree,
that's
that's
unfair
and
and
not
expected.
R
R
This
is
the
type
of
information
I
need
to
know
to
break
it
down
for
me
and
I
couldn't
take
notes
fast
enough.
Is
this
available
on
that
website?
Okay,
all
of
this
exactly
had
great
and
the
other
question
I
have.
As
far
as
that
is
on
the
first
page
of
this
notification,
it's
broken
down
differently
than
the
proposed
rates
as
water,
sewage
and
then
the
average
and
then
on
the
the
changes
we
have
it
all
lumped
into
one.
Is
that
the
same
scenario,
or
is
there
a
breakdown
of
the
difference?
R
E
There
were
a
lot
of
questions
in
there
and
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
them.
I'd
like
to
go
back
for
just
a
second
and
explain:
there
are
fixed
charges
and
volumetric
charges
in
the
utility
bill,
and
that
is
a
standard
billing
practice
and
there's
a
purpose
for
it.
The
fixed
charges
are
required
for
the
stability
of
the
utility.
We
have
responsibilities
for
those
water
pipes,
those
fire
hydrants,
those
things
to
be
maintained,
whether
or
not
a
customer's
using
water
at
their
home
and
that's
a
standard
practice
that
goes
beyond
water
and
sewer.
E
It's
on
your
electric
bill
as
well.
It
might
have
a
different
name,
but
it's
the
same
sort
of
thing.
I
recently
had
a
solar
panel
system
on
my
house
and
I'm
still
paying
a
bill,
and
the
reason
is:
there's
some
fixed
charges
in
there
for
the
lines
that
that
carry
electricity
away
or
bring
it
in.
So
that
is
standard
practice.
There's
a
reason
for
it.
It's.
It
is
a
fair
method
of
billing
back
to
the
question
about
what
was
what
was
taken
out
to
make
the
rates
lower.
E
I
can
tell
you
that,
in
summary,
we
have
investment
in
water
lines
and
sewer
lines,
those
two
areas
we
basically
needed
to
reduce
about
$200,000
a
year
for
the
10
year
plan
or
to
achieve
those
lower
rates.
So
what
that
meant
is
on
the
water
side,
which
includes
hydrants
pipes,
valves
those
sorts
of
things
we
had
1.3
million
dollars
per
year
allocated
now
I
think
it's
about
1.15
million
dollars
per
year.
In
other
words,
it's
still
a
healthy
investment.
E
Our
progress
might
be
slowed
slightly,
but
yet
we're
gonna
be
able
to
prioritize
and
achieve
I
would
argue
much
more
than
we
did
10
or
even
20
years
ago.
So
we've
got
a
responsible
plan
moving
forward.
Similarly,
on
the
sewer
end
of
things,
we
have
maybe
a
reduction
of
50
to
100
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
original
million
dollars
per
year,
so
we're
on
a
responsible,
proactive
plan
regarding
puddles
or
storm
water
problems.
That's
not
included
at
all
in
these
water
and
sewer
rates.
E
F
L
A
M
Ordinance
number
2018
15
in
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
extending
the
established
temporary
moratorium
on
the
submission
and
processing
of
any
applications
and
any
issuance
of
any
permit
for
location
of
any
wireless
communication
facilities,
towers
or
antennas,
and
the
city's
rights-of-way
an
additional
period
of
120
days
providing
for
conflicts,
severability,
construction
and
public
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Second,
reading
of
ordinance,
2018
15,
published
in
Tampa
times
on
June
29th
2018.
A
S
The
cell
phones
off
please
mayor
commissioners
good
evening,
Heather,
ruler
and
staff
to
this
at
your
si
Planning
and
Zoning
Director
staff
to
this
application.
I
have
no
additional
information
to
add
to
the
sense
first
reading.
Unless
you
have
any
other
questions,
I
can
answer
any
other
questions.
You
would
have.
B
Sure
kicked
yeah,
sorry,
Commissioner
Khare,
yes,.
L
A
A
I
I
A
I
I
I
I
U
U
Same
thing,
but
I
just
want
to
mention
that
matil
would
be
a
good
candidate
for
somewhere
up
I
mean
openings
where
I
have
budget
Advisory
Board
Oh,
which
was
their
first
choice.
So
I
I,
just
I
just
wanted
me
as
I
walk.
Well.
I.
Don't
want
to
stop
somebody
from
getting
on
the
board,
but.
F
I
Eileen
Scott
Nancy
bar
and
Sheila
hater
hider
wrong,
we'll
put
those
three
individuals
in
those
three
slots
respectively
down
the
list,
how
they
are
and
that's
an
order
of
when
they
were
turned
in
that's
fair
and
they're.
Both
first
choice
is
library,
board
and
we'll
say,
mrs.
Hall
for
her
first
choice
later
on
the
recommendation
of
the
city
management.
Well,.
U
J
You
and
I
would
agree
with
Miss
Scott
as
a
regular,
amber
Sheila
hater
as
a
regular
member
and
Cassy
Paul,
as
the
alternate
like
I
spoke
with
Cassie
and
she
is
in
the
finance.
She
has
a
huge
financial
background
and
she
is
very
interested
in
the
financial
advisory
board
when
those
openings
come
up
as
well,
but
I
encourage
her
to
start
getting
involved
now.
F
F
You
know
I,
you
know
they
wanted
the
life
by
the
library
board,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
keep
someone
from
getting
on
a
budget
advisory
boards
or
committee.
If
that
was
the
first
choice-
and
we
may
have
some
openings
coming
up
in
that
on
that,
so
I
just
thought
that
it'd
be
better
to
let
her
have
her
choice
of
budget
advisory,
if
that
was
her
first
choice.
So
those
are
my
recommendations.
A
L
A
J
You
mayor
first
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
this
should
have
read
on
our
agenda
as
more
of
a
discussion
about
the
vagrancy
issue
in
our
community.
This
is
not
about
the
homeless
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
that
are
here
tonight.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here,
but
this
issue
is
put
on
the
agenda
and
it's
not
to
discuss
the
homeless
is
not
to
discuss
soup
kitchens
or
how
we
ate
our
homeless
here
in
the
community.
J
That's
not
what
this
discussion
item
is
about
and
I'm,
sorry
that
you
were
all
miss
for
misinformed
about
that.
I
did
put
out
an
email
about
that
today.
It
was
distributed
to
various
people
within
the
community.
I
also
sat
with
the
Shepherd
Center
yesterday
and
explained
us
and
some
and
some
other
prominent
people
in
the
community
that
do
help
an
aid
or
homeless.
That
was
not
the
intention
of
this
agenda
item
so
again.
I'm,
sorry
that
you
were
all
misinformed
about
what
the
agenda
item
is
about.
What
the
item
is
about
is
the
board.
J
Here
we
received
some
emails
and
pictures
from
people
within
the
community
of
vandalism.
That's
been
going
on
from
some
vagrance
center
that
are
here
in
the
community
and
they're
very
disturbing
photos
of
what's
happening,
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
was
discussed
with
my
fellow
colleagues
and
the
chief
and
and
the
city
manager
what
we
can
do
to
correct
this
problem.
J
J
It's
disturbing
with
the
pictures
that
we're
getting
and
you
know,
they're
leaving
their
feces
in
town
on
in
our
storefronts
and
stuff,
and
it
needs
to
be
addressed.
That's
that's
what
the
issue
is
this
again,
it's
not
about
our
homelessness,
it's
not
about
soup
kitchens
or
our
helping.
Our
veterans
I
believe
that
we
as
a
city
help
and
work
very
well
with
our
soup
kitchens
of
town
and
all
of
our
agencies
that
are
here
to
help
we
work
as
a
team,
and
we
want
to
continue
that.
J
So
again,
this
is
not
what
the
discussion
is
about,
so
I'm,
sorry
that
you
were
misinformed
or
or
maybe
you're
here
to
help
us
solve
this
problem
with
the
vagrancy
issue.
So
I
wanted
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
and
and
Chifa
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
plans
in
place
right
now,
I
know:
there's
been
some
discussion,
so
I'd
like
to
hear
what
you
know,
what
get
some
ideas
of
what
we
can
do
to
start
leading
this
issue
up
again.
I
Everyone
here
tonight,
I
realize
there's,
but
the
thing
I'm
sure
you'd
rather
be
doing
sitting
here
with
us
tonight.
The
nazarov
practicing
Catholic
someone
who's
amassed
six
days
a
week.
I
greatly
appreciate
the
work
that
each
of
you
all
do,
and
your
individual
organizations
to
feed
the
poor
to
to
clothe
them
and
to
house
them
I
believe
that
is
God's
work
and
each
of
you
all
do
that
in
your
own
ways
and
I
and
I
am
grateful
for
that.
I
I'm
very
proud
that
I
live
in
a
community
where
that's
taken
seriously,
where
we
help
the
poor
in
our
community,
those
that
want
help
those
that
want
to
improve
themselves
and
families
that
are
down
on
their
luck.
And
that's
me
we
shall
be
proud
of
I
could,
through
all
partners
and
assets
in
our
community.
I
agree
with
everything
that
Commissioner
cricket
has
said.
I
It's
kind
of
ironic
to
me,
because
I
in
a
nama
public
meeting,
what
was
it
mark,
maybe
March
or
April,
said
that
I
was
gonna,
bring
that
s
issue
forward,
terming
it
vagrant,
obviously
in
the
fall,
and
so
Commissioner
kick-up
put
this
on
the
agenda.
After
some
recent
reports
that
have
happened
and
I
said,
okay,
we'll
have
this
discussion
earlier
and
now
we're
here
today
and
I
do
think
people
have
been
misinformed.
I
I
Wishing
to
sleep
on
our
streets
and
as
I've
been
told
and
I'm
I'm
free
to
to
to
stand
corrected,
I
was
told
by
our
previous
homeless
outreach
officer
that
has
retired
that
it's
optional
to
be
to
be
to
be
homeless
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
that's
what
he's
home
and
I
and
I
and
I
feel
free
to
be
to
be
corrected
again.
I
If
anybody
thinks
that
this
is
a
rare
event,
these
vagrants
I
invite
you
to
come
to
my
office.
It's
under,
though
at
680
east
tarpon
Avenue,
my
family
in
2013,
made
a
pretty
Saints
a
significant
investment
in
three
buildings
on
East
tarpon
Avenue,
that
without
that
were
fairly
just
kind
of
rundown,
two
of
which
were
overrun
with
vagrants
we've
cleaned
it
up,
I'm
not
had
to
spend
at
least
ten
thousand
dollars
on
fencing
and
security,
keep
them
from
sleeping
in
the
back.
I
We're
asking
my
tenants
for
asking
my
employees,
defecating,
yuqing
and
other
things
that
I
won't
talk
about
it
here.
So
it
is
an
issue
you
can
say
it's
not
an
issue,
but
vagrancy
is
an
issue
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
that's
what
we
need
to
define
the
problem
as
what
it
is
and
separated
from
homelessness,
because
it's
two
very
different
things.
In
my
view,
to
solve
the
problem,
there's
there's
no
magic
bullet,
that's
never
gonna
complete,
just
just
just
just
go
away.
I
So
what
I
would
like
to
see
happen
when
I
was
gonna
propose
when
I
was
gonna?
Bring
this
up
here
in
the
fall
was
to
direct
our
city
manager
and
our
chief
of
police
to
meet
with
the
appropriate
providers
in
town
to
get
their
input
on
what
they
think
we
can
do
better
as
a
as
a
city
when
they
can
do
better
as
partners
to
help
identify
and
help
solve
this
problem
or
mitigate
it.
We're
never
gonna
solve
it,
but
but
to
mitigate
this
problem.
I
So
I'll
see
what
my
colleagues
say
about
that,
but
that
that's
that's.
That's
my
direction
to
staff
tonight
and
then
to
report
back
to
us
no
later
than
a
second
meeting
in
August
of
the
outcome
of
those
meetings.
What
our
partner
says,
what
would
our
partners
in
the
community
say
that
they
can
do
to
help
and
what
we
as
a
city,
can
do
better
as
well
to
prevent
this
vagrancy
from
getting
worse?
It
has
gotten
worse,
I,
don't
have
no
evidence
a
hard
data,
but
I
lived
here.
I
My
entire
life-
and
you
know
again
my
office
basis,
Department
Avenue
all
day,
I
see
it
every
day
all
day,
so
it
has
gotten
worse.
There
has
been
discussion
or
when
I
have
some
discussion,
some
set
some
some
good
discussions
with
some
providers.
Yesterday
they
stressed
that
you
know
we
don't
try
and
bring
people
to
Tarpon
Springs
I'm
sure
they
don't
I,
don't
think
they
advertised
to
come
to
Tarpon
to
get
help.
I
It's
fun,
I
think
they're,
trying
to
help
people
in
Tarpon,
but
nonetheless,
I
think
we
do
such
a
good
job
of
helping
people
that
the
flip
side
of
that
is
people
do
come
here,
for
that
I
mean
I,
just
think.
That's
common
sense,
mom
harbour
holiday,
Eastlake,
Dunedin,
don't
do
negative
job
providing
for
the
poor
and
those
that
that
need
help.
Then
then
within
then
we
do
here
in
Tarpon,
Springs
yeah,
that's
been
to
beat
to
be
proud
of,
but
we
have
to
identify
those
that
are
abusing
the
system
and
then
causing
crime.
I
You
know
in
our
community
the
bandshell
that
commissioner
kicker
talked
about
is
very
true.
My
daughter,
a
few
months
ago
we
were
playing
at
Craig
park.
She
ran
up
there
and
I
had
to
stop
her
because
there
was
drug
paraphernalia
littered
aw
just
all
over
it.
That's
something
we
as
a
city
have
to
do
better.
I
mean
employees
in
us
tu-tu-tu-tu-tu-tu
police
and
monitor
that.
So
in
closing
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
I
I
don't
have
the
skill
set
that
you
all
have
to
to
help
the
poor,
but
I
greatly
admire
it
and
I
look
forward
to
your
participation
with
our
city
manager
and
our
police
chief
and
helping
us
solve
this
problem
to
get
because
we
have
to
solve
it.
I
think
BBB
before
somebody
gets
hurt,
or
it
does
become
such
an
issue
where
it's
gonna
hurt
the
economic
development
issues
that
we've
been
pushing
in
the
downtown
area.
I
F
You
I
agree
with
you
vice
mayor
as
far
as
the
vagrancy
and
the
people
who
don't
want
to
live
anywhere,
but
on
the
street.
Those
are
considered
chronic,
homeless
and
and
we've
known
them
for
years
that
the
ones
that
live
here
but
I
feel
that
the
situation
has
gotten
worse.
I've
talked
to
the
chief
about
it,
I'm
at
the
ban,
shelter
and
Craig
park
and
I
know
someone
lives
there
and
leaves
a
lot
of
garbage
and
we've
gotten
the
emails
from
our
business
owners.
I'm
a
business
owner
and
they're
on
the
sponge
docks
as
well.
F
So
there's
things
happening
there
and
I.
Don't
know
the
chief
is
going
to
make
some
comments
tonight,
but
we're
definitely
at
a
point
that
we
need
to
to
do
something.
My
suggestion
before
we
decided
to
have
this
discussion
was
to
have
a
special
session
with
our
partners
and
our
providers,
because
I
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
all
get
together,
because
it
is
a
partnership
in
the
city.
We
all
need
to
get
together
and
discuss
and
have
some
solutions
with
our
Police
Department
with
our
partners
or
community
partners
and
with
ourselves.
F
So
I
think
that
we
should
be
included
so
that
we
can
have
an
open
discussion
about
what's
happening.
What
are
we
doing?
How
do
we
move
forward
because
we
need
to
move
forward?
We
can't
just
keep
talking
about
it,
so
I
feel
that
we
need
to
be
involved
and
have
a
discussion
with
all
of
our
providers
and
community
partners.
So
that's
my
recommendation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
Mary
drove
in
Tarpon
Springs
my
whole
life
I
lived
one
house
off
spring
by
you.
My
parents
and
my
parents
still
call
the
area
home
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
downtown
still
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
downtown
tarpon
springs,
and
the
sponge
docks
today
very
proud
to
call
tarpon
springs
home,
I
volunteered
with
many
organizations
in
the
past
growing
up
in
high
school
in
college
and
throughout
elementary
and
middle
school.
L
F
L
L
Do
believe,
there's
a
big
difference
between
a
chronic
homeless
person,
which
I
think
some
of
the
other
commissioners
are
calling
vagrants
and
then
also
someone
that's
really
down
their
luck
as
a
young
family,
someone
that
may
have
lost
their
job
who's
just
trying
to
make
make
ends
meet
overall.
I
would
agree
with
the
fellow
commissioners
that
these
are
conversations
that
we
need
to
have
about
the
chronic
homelessness.
L
It's
not
about
the
issues
and
the
struggles
that
a
family
person
is
having
because
they
can't
pay
their
bills
or
pay
the
water
bill
can't
pay
their
power
bill
can't
afford
a
can't
afford
food
at
Publix
or
one
of
the
grocery
stores,
but
we
do
need
to
take
care
of
our
residents
here
in
Tarpon
Springs.
Also,
so
there's
a
balance
between
how
do
we
allow
and
help
the
chronic
homeless?
L
And
how
do
we
respect
the
residents
here
that
purchase
properties
that
have
businesses
on
the
Main,
Street
and
businesses
throughout
town
when
I
walk
through
downtown
done,
even
when
I
walk
through
downtown
safety
harbor
when
I
walk
other
areas
of
the
Tampa
Bay
area,
I'm
not
approached
by
almost
people,
but
there
have
been
other
places
in
st.
Pete
and
Clearwater
that
I
haven't
approached
of
church
by
chronic
homelessness.
L
L
Overall,
we
wanted
to
take
care
of
our
chronic
homeless
that
are
part
of
Tarpon
Springs,
but
we
shouldn't
have
to
take
care
of
the
chronic
homeless
that
are
part
of
palm
harbor,
part
of
Dunedin
or
safety,
harbor
or
Clearwater
part
of
st.
pete.
So
I
think
we
need
to
delicately
look
at
this
to
say
if
you
have
chronic
homeless
in
st.
pete
in
clearwater,
make
sure
you're
not
sending
them
the
tarpon
springs
as
well.
This
is
a
concern,
I
believe,
as
I
mentioned
to
you.
L
L
To
me,
if
we
want
to
be
recognized
as
a
tourist
destination
in
an
area
also,
we
need
to
be
careful
on
how
our
visitors
are
being
approached
as
they're
leaving
certain
establishments
at
different
times
of
the
day.
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
the
public
comment.
Obviously,
I
could
see
there's
a
lot
of
it
here
tonight
and
regardless
which
side
you're
on
there
there's
definitely
shouldn't
needs
to
be
addressed
and
there's
an
opportunity
to
help
many
people
and
it's
something
that
the
city
cannot
continue
to
still
stay
status
quo
with
regardless
what
happens.
Thanks
thank.
A
A
Homeless
is
a
complex
and
very
sensitive
issue,
not
only
in
Tarpon
Springs
Pinellas
County
in
the
host
day
of
board
the
seat
of
Tarpon
Springs
is
one
of
the
few
cities
that
is
providing
the
outreach
program.
The
policeman
has
been
assigned
to
work
with
people
they're
homeless
and
to
provide
the
service,
and
not
very
many
cities.
Do
that.
You
know
we
should
be
very
proud
for
that
services
that
we
provided.
What
the
officer
does
is
connecting
them
with
agencies
depending
on
their
needs
and
their
situation.
A
You
know
the
agency
is
the
directions
for
living
there
providing
health
services
another
one
is
the
Pinellas
safe
harbor,
the
provided
services
for
everyone,
including
felons
drug
and
alcohol
abusers.
Number
four
I
would
say
is
a
very
administration
that
providing
medical
benefits
to
all
the
veterans.
The
way
of
the
YMCA.
Thank
you
for
being
here
tonight,
sir.
They
also
provided
our
services
to
the
families
into
the
children,
religious
community
services,
that
provider
services
for
domestic
violence,
addictions
and
mental
health.
A
So
there
are
six
different
agencies
in
the
area
that
we
work
with,
and
our
policeman
is
constantly
working
to
promote,
to
connect
them
to
connect
the
people
to
get
service.
The
people
of
Darfur
Springs
are
very
generous.
We
have
local
organizations
who
have
churches
and
they're
providing
hot
meals
every
day
and
that
you
providing
the
service,
and
our
thank
you
all
for
doing
that.
We
are
very
appreciative
for
doing
this.
A
In
my
my
opinion,
though,
but
the
long-term
solution
is
should
be
to
convince
and
to
encourage
the
people
they
need
to
help
to
get
with
resource
officer
to
get
do
what
take
them
down
to
those
agencies,
to
get
training,
to
get
assistance
to
get
housing
to
get
jobs
if
you're
productive
into
our
society.
It's
good
that
we
provide
a
meal
every
day,
but
we
have
to
look
for
the
future.
This
is
what
we
should
be
thinking
about,
what
we
should
do
for
the
for
the
future.
A
What
I
mean
time
I
like
to
express
my
appreciation
to
all
of
you
for
providing
the
service
to
our
to
the
people
that
have
this
need
and
I
do
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
we
need
to
have
a
meeting
with
the
providers
to
look
and
see
what
what
we
should
being
proved
on.
What
what
policies
do
we
have?
What
procedures
do
they
have
and
and
look
and
see
what
improvements
we
can
make
and
also
to
prevail
in
sure
the
safety
of
the
people,
because
we've
received
many
complaints
from
the
businesses,
complaints
from
mom?
A
U
U
Three
is
to
say
whether
the
contributing
factors
that
are
causing
the
problem,
those
three
things
that
we
have
to
look
at,
and
the
police
department
and
myself
from
the
time
we
had
that
meeting
commissioner
bath
there
have
begun
that
part,
because
we
need
to
get
a
good
feeling
on
that
part
before
we
do
number
four,
which
is
something
that's
coming
up.
Number
four
is
talking
with
all
those
involved,
which
means
talking
to
the
heads
or
representative
from
a
lot
of
the
organizations
out
there.
U
That's
the
part
we
need
to
get
to
we're
working
on
one
two
and
three
already
from
the
time,
because
I
was
anticipating
this
coming
on
the
budget
later
I
realized
we've
had
some
people
do
complaints
I've
also
told
them
that
I've
talked
to
be
listen.
You
got
to
give
us
some
time
we're
already
working
on
it.
We
got
a
process
to
do
so.
If
you
get
more,
as
you
get
more
in
the
coming
weeks,
you
need
to
tell
the
people
complaining,
we
are
working
on
it.
U
U
Think
again,
myself
have
suggested,
and
the
chief
me,
especially
because
I'm
involved
in
a
lot
of
this
than
my
other
profession,
is
police
chief
and
dealing
with
this,
that
we
get
together
and
and
and
we
identify
and
then
the
next
step
is
to
meet
with
those
organizations
and
meet
with
them.
What
have
we
found
out?
What
do
we
do?
U
What
are
some
of
the
contributing
factors
how
they
can
help
us
with
the
contributing
effect
and
talk
the
whole
situation
out,
and
then
it's
coming
up
with
a
plan
and
coming
back
to
you,
as
you
said
hopefully,
and
the
vog
is
first
step
I.
Think
that's
because
we're
way
ahead
of
starting
so
normally
I
tell
you
it'd
be
about
three
or
four
months,
but
we're
already
into
the
process.
So
I
think
we
can
do
it
by
that
timeframe.
U
U
You
just
did
a
little
time
and
I
think
we
can
keep
with
that
time
frame
to
come
back
and
have
the
meetings
and
and
have
the
ideas
and
the
thing
come
back
to
you
end
of
August,
beginning
of
September,
one
of
those
first
meetings
before
the
new
year
and
and
tell
you
what
we
I
mean:
I
mean
you
know,
the
things
on
both
sides
have
now
seen
some
extreme
things
and
people
complaining
when
I
asked
some
of
them
was
well
when
I
go
into
the
record
or
call
the
police
department.
U
Has
there
be
a
record
of
it?
No,
and
that
doesn't
help
us
and
then,
of
course,
how
this
thing
got
completely
blown
out
of
proportion
of
what
this
on
they're.
Just
it's
the
reason
why
I
tell
you
all
the
hate,
social
media
and
hitting
a
lot
of
that
stuff,
because
nobody
calls
anybody
and
talks
anymore.
Everybody
types
and
prints
things
on
there
and
the
old-fashioned
way
when
I
was
Chief
was
great
cuz
I'm
by
picking
up
the
call
of
the
phone
and
yelled.
What
are
you
doing?
U
U
We're
prepared
to
do
this
and
working
on
the
planning
and
getting
them
I
know
most
of
the
people
in
chief
knows
most
the
people
involved
with
all
these
organizations
and
churches,
so
I
think
we
can
sit
down
and
and
once
we
identify
some
things
that
some
solutions
come
up
with
something
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
plan.
You
know
we
can
talk
tonight
and
hash
things
out,
but
that's
not
going
to
accomplish
nothing.
F
Yeah
I
agree
and
that's
the
only
way
we
can
move
forward.
As
you
all
know,
I
was
on
the
homeless
leadership
board
for
almost
four
years,
and,
and
one
thing
I
learned
is
most
difficult
thing
about.
Homelessness
are
the
chronic
homeless.
There
are
many
agencies
out
there
to
help
the
families
and
to
house
them
and
to
feed
them
and,
to
you
know,
get
them
back
to
work
and
get
get
them
back
on
their
feet
again
and
and
and
it's
important
to
give
them
a
hand
up
and
not
a
hand
down
but
chronic
homeless.
F
Just
really
don't
want
to
go,
live
inside
so
those
and
the
people
mentally
ill
and
and
are
on
drugs
or
what's
causing
most
of
the
problems
in
Tarpon
and
and
I,
also
worry
that
they
may
be
coming
from
st.
Pete
or
Pasco
or
other
areas,
because
we
are
such
a
compassionate
city.
So,
yes,
I
agree.
We
need
to
to
really
meet
with
all
our
agencies
and
and
figure
out
what
we
need
to
do
and
how
we
can
help
this
situation.
L
U
U
L
N
A
V
Good
evening,
I'm
nervous,
so
please
bear
with
me
I
don't
do
this.
My
name
is
michelle.
Museo
Reed,
Miller
I
am
tarpon
springs,
my
father
retired.
As
your
crossing
guard
from
ten
years,
tarpon
middle
he's
gone.
My
mom
served
two
kids,
she
retired
Sunset
Hills
Tarpon,
Springs,
Elementary
and
tarpon
middle.
V
She
served
two
kids,
she
retired
I've,
a
retired
state,
employee
state
of
Florida,
employee
I've
done
food
stamps
at
Mara,
Lake,
AFDC,
Medicaid,
I
retired.
After
20
years,
I've
worked
in
Phillips,
Park
I've
counted
the
homeless
to
census.
I've
done
it
child's
bark
I
was
out
of
child
product
County
homeless.
Where
y'all
are
in
your
beds
that
man
there
we
owned
the
house
at
315,
North
Florida
Avenue,
that
used
to
belong
to
Mike
and
Betty
Museo.
He
called
you
by
your
first
name.
V
He
works
for
the
city
of
Saint
Pete.
He
makes
that
drive
every
day
in
three
years.
He
retires
and
I
can
sleep.
When
he's
driving
in
the
morning.
He
needs
the
feet
on
the
ground
in
st.
Pete
they're,
not
coming
from
Saint
Pete
folks,
st.
Pete
in
Clearwater
are
actually
hubs
themselves.
They've
got
Daystar,
they've
got
st.
Mary's
they've
got
everything
down
there,
they've
actually
got
and
we're
not
supposed
to
say
this.
The
city
of
st.
Pete
actually
does
something
creative
with
their
homeless.
V
Maybe
you
should
talk
to
them,
but
in
any
case,
I
heard
some
good
stuff
when
you're
talking
and
before
I
leave
I'm,
not
here
tonight
representing
any
agency
I'm
here
as
a
human
being
Paul.
Thank
you.
I
have
a
heart
next
to
your
name,
because
you
said
a
lot
of
good
things
about
data
in
front
of
the
public.
I
highly
recommend
you
guys
do
that
before
you
make
statements
about
people
coming
from
other
cities.
How
are
you
documenting
that?
How
do
you
die
and
where
would
they
get
the
money
I've
done,
bus
tokens?
V
V
But
in
any
case
I
know
you
guys
are
going
to
talk
and
I
hope
you
make
some
good
decisions
and
I
hope
that
you
remember
to
listen
to
your
community.
Remember
somebody
said
tonight
earlier
one
of
the
other
speakers:
Tarpon
wants
to
be
a
leader
in
an
example,
the
business
owners
that
are
having
problems,
a
successful
business
deals
with
the
problem
and
even
better
business,
prevents
it
by
reaching
out
to
the
problem.
W
Good
evening
Beverly
Villiers
10:28
Peninsula
Avenue.
It's
interesting
that
we're
still
having
this
conversation,
because
when
I
was
sitting
up
there,
we
had
it
years
ago
and
we
had
the
same
problems
about
the
homeless,
the
different
types
of
homeless.
I
sat
on
the
homeless,
color
coalition
for
six
years
and
know
they're
not
coming
from
st.
Pete
and
lady
is
correct.
They
need
bus
passes
to
get
up
here.
If
they
don't
have
gas,
they
have.
W
We
get
that
over
and
over
again
the
vagrants
that
we're
seeing
is
not
the
whole
picture
of
what
we
have
in
Tarpon
Springs,
yes,
they're
causing
a
problem,
but
we
are
addressing
the
people
who
have
true
needs
and
if
the
lady
that
God
came
in
our
door
that
day
came
from
Palm
Harbor
I'd
like
to
know
who
would
have
turned
her
away,
we
don't
turn
people
away
and
that's
not
what
our
whole
mission
is.
We
don't
ask
for
an
address
and
we
don't
just
feed
we
help.
W
W
Yes,
we
have
those
who
don't
come
to
us
that
are
doing
the
vagrancy
type
things
they're
vagrants
in
the
downtown
I'm
a
business
person.
It
needs
more
police
coverage
if
any
of
those
vagrants
came
to
the
Shepherd
Center
and
did
anything
that
if
they
have
been
doing
in
the
downtown,
we
first
wants
to
call
our
police
officers
and
address
the
issue.
W
But
I
want
to
thank
the
commissioners
for
looking
at
the
bigger
picture
to
sit
down
I'm,
going
to
assume
that
our
agency
would
be
one
of
the
agencies
that
you
would
sit
down
with,
because
we
do
have
the
numbers
and
we
have
that
information
for
you
and
I
think
collectively
as
a
community
as
a
village,
we
can
address
the
problem
correctly,
but
I
will
tell
you
when
I
served
on
this
bored
with
a
previous
city
manager.
Her
answer
was
put
him
on
a
bus
and
some
st.
W
X
Father
Samson
Casa,
Bacchus
I,
am
a
resident
here
of
tarpon
springs
at
16:36,
Palomino
Drive.
Please
do
not
look
me
up.
My
parishioners
back
there
I
like
to
have
my
home
is
my
little
palace.
It's
not
nearly
as
that,
but
forgive
me
for
the
the
banter
I
just
come
before
you
all
as
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
very,
very
much.
It's
a
difficult
place
to
be
in
to
be
able
to
try
to
find
solutions
to
problems,
whether
we
might
see
them
as
problems
or
not.
X
X
X
There's
the
pink
building
I
believe
it
was
called
a
tea
house
and
then
there's
the
one.
That's
right!
Next
to
st.
Nicholas,
preschool
I
see
people
in
there
all
the
time
and
I'm
a
big
guy
I
can
be
intimidating
and
yeah.
Maybe
I
should
call
the
cops,
but
if
I
see
people
in
there,
I'm
like
hey,
get
out
of
there,
because
our
kids
are
right
there.
X
That
would
be
one
thing
on
top
of
all
the
great
ideas
that
you
guys
have
had,
of
course,
as
some
of
the
ones
that
are
to
come
of
thinking
outside
the
box
I
also
in
turn,
also
offer.
My
might
will
kill
me,
but
I
am
volunteering
myself
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
that
you
guys
see
need
fit
as
the
st.
Nicholas
Cathedral,
whatever
we
can
do
to
help
along
the
way
in
empowering
our
homeless
people,
whether
they're
chronic
all
the
way
down
to
just
in
need.
X
O
X
We
will
not
stop
serving
the
meals,
we
can
take
suggestions,
I
guess,
but
we're
not
going
to
stop
serving
them.
So
that
has
to
be
somehow
a
part
of
the
solution
to
hopefully
be
a
place
to
empower
or
meet
these
individuals
where
they're
at
and
be
able
to
empower
them
to
hopefully
get
out
of
the
hole
that
they're
in
again
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
very,
very
much
for
your
time
and
the
dedication
you
guys
are
putting
forth
to
everything.
God
bless
you
all.
Thank
you.
Do.
L
Y
Me
o3o
for
South
Pinellas,
Avenue,
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida,
three,
four,
six,
eight,
nine,
okay,
I
am
truly
happy
that
the
meeting
that
the
meeting
agenda
was
made
clear
that
this
is
not
about
the
community
kitchens
and
feeding
the
homeless
in
our
community,
but
it
is
about
the
vagrants
in
our
community,
of
which
there
are
only
a
handful.
As
you
are
aware,
these
people
suffer
from
some
sort
of
mental
illness
and
it
is
hard
to
reach
them.
A
few
have
come
to
the
Shepherd
Center
in
the
mental
state
trying
to
get
food.
Y
O
Y
Finally,
she
decided
to
go
to
the
community
kitchens
because
she
already
started
to
trust
us
that
the
food
was
not
poisoned.
We
have
a
mental
health,
Suncoast
comes
in
once
a
week
and
we've
you
know:
I've
tried
having
her
come
in
on
the
day
that
they
come
in
and
she
hasn't
made
it
yet.
But
you
know
it
just
takes
time.
It
takes
time
to
reach
these
people
as
much
as
I
would
like
to
say
that
there
are
instantaneous
answers.
I
can
with
none
of
us
can,
but
we
are
working
on
a
solution.
Y
Y
Y
We
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
help
them,
but
we
need
a
place
and
we
have-
and
we
have
proposed-
and
we
are
working
diligently
and
very
hard
to
get
the
Hope
Center,
which
is
the
solution
which
is
our
solution
in
our
County
in
our
city
to
help
meet
those
needs.
Our
intent
is
to
have
the
Shepherd
Center
incorporate
its
partners
with
the
Hope
Center
to
assist
these
displaced
people.
Currently
we
have.
We
have
multiple
partners
in
the
community
who
work
together
to
me.
The
needs
of
this
population,
like
the
Salvation
Army,
oh.
Y
You
thank
you,
sir.
We
have
resources
that
come
at
least
once
or
twice
a
week
to
provide
services
to
our
clients,
such
as
therapists
from
sound
Suncoast,
mental
health
center,
a
representative
from
Pinellas,
County,
homeless,
leadership,
board,
career
sores
and
many
others,
and,
as
you
are
aware,
we
desperately
need
shelters
in
Tarpon
Springs
to
keep
these
people
off
the
streets.
I
believe
that
the
Hope
Center
that
you
can
make
a
big
difference
to
the
residents
and
businesses
in
our
community.
We
need
to
work
together.
You
need
the
churches.
Y
Y
Y
There's
plate,
there's
two
places
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
three
places
in
st.
Petersburg,
Salvation
Army
being
one
of
them
that
get
that
provides
community
kitchens.
We
have
a
community
kitchen
in
Clearwater
from
you
know:
they're
open
seven
days
a
week
from
8:30
to
10:30.
At
night
we
have
community
kitchens
in
Pasco.
Nobody
in
order
for
you
to
get
a
bus
pass.
There
has
to
be
a
reason:
don't
just
give
out
bus
passes
because
we
pay
premium,
they
don't
give
us
the
bus
passes.
Y
O
A
Z
Tim
kefalas
205
leaf
would
drive,
tarpon
springs
and
I'm
the
president
of
the
HEPA
and
we've
been
partnering
with
the
Shepherd
Center
for
several
years,
and
we've
helped
in
other
organizations
as
well
with
anybody
that
asks
us
for
their
for
help.
We
help,
but
tonight
I
heard
from
homeless
I'm
gonna
looked
up
the
definition
of
vagrant,
if
you're
going
to
do
something.
Z
You
can't
in
one
hand
some
of
you
called
them
homeless.
Some
of
you
called
them
vagrants.
It's
synonymous
and
you're
gonna
have
to
first
learn
what
you're
going
to
talk
about.
The
mayor
you
had
seem
to
have
pretty
good
understanding
some
of
the
organizations
that
are
out
there
to
help
I
served
as
director
of
housing,
public
housing
in
the
1990s.
This
problem
went
on
then
for
public
housing
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I
served
on
the
homeless
back
then
homeless.
Community
back
then,
with
the
Salvation,
Army
and
other
organizations
and
I
was
always
asked.
Z
Why
do
we
have
this
problem
annually?
We
would
come
to
the
city
and
tell
about
our
state
of
affairs
at
the
housing
and
I
was
always
asked.
Why
do
we
have
this
problem?
Why
do
we
have
this
problem?
You've
not
addressed
it.
I've
run
for
office
three
times
in
tarp
and
I've
tried
to
bring
this
up
as
an
issue,
and
it's
it's
like
it.
Just
bounces
off
the
only
thing
you're
hearing
is
the
complaints
from
merchants
which
it
may
be
valid,
but
you're
not
doing
anything
to
resolve
it.
Z
Since
the
original
Housing
Authority
was
started,
the
county
has
created
section
8
housing,
and
there
were
many
private
complexes
recently
built
to
help
seniors
who
are
also
struggling,
and
those
are
some
of
the
people
that
we
see
when
we
do
our
dinners
and
they
come
to
the
Shepherd
Center.
Unfortunately,
little
has
been
done
to
address
the
extremely
poor
and
homeless
and
Tarpon
Springs.
The
Police
Department
has
done
a
very
good
job
to
handle
the
homelessness
and
to
help
find
them
a
place
to
stay.
Unfortunately,
there's
little
housing
available
for
homeless
in
Tarpon
Springs.
Z
While
our
city
is
trying
to
become
a
full-service
city
government,
we
have
neglected
our
most
vulnerable
and
most
troubled
at-risk
residents,
leaving
their
fate
to
nonprofits
and
individuals.
A
part
of
Tarpon
Springs
was
recently
placed
on
the
top
note
impoverished
areas
in
the
county
and
it's
getting
worse.
The
homeless
issue
needs
an
unbiased
and
factual
understanding
of
the
problem
and,
to
just
say,
there's
a
problem
will
not
resolve
it,
so
no
secret
that
students
living
in
impoverished
areas
are
more
likely
to
have
health
issues.
Z
They
are
generally
have
low
success
in
school
and
the
neighborhood's
become
further
impoverished
without
a
major
intervention.
You
can't
just
annually
mention,
as
you
have
done
since
I've
been
involved
in
a
city
in
the
1990s
that
we're
going
to
do
something
about
it,
and
then
you
do
nothing.
You
can't
do
it
without
dedicating
money
and
staff
to
the
problem,
as
I've
said
before,
the
police
has
staff,
but
that's
not
enough.
Z
In
the
past,
the
city
created
various
departments
and
agencies
to
help
in
many
ways,
except
in
funding,
to
define
and
determine
the
best
way
to
resolve
this
problem.
If
you
as
a
city
government
and
your
representatives,
I,
could
not
do
more,
you
will
see
the
homeless
issue
escalate
each
year.
You
need
professional
help
to
help
you
with
this
and
a
dedication
to
resolve
it.
I
don't
see
tonight
that
dedication
tonight,
I
heard
you
say
I.
A
Z
A
N
T
Had
written
something
out,
but
I
just
want
to
speak
from
my
heart.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
I
felt,
really
happy
to
hear
that
you're
wanting
to
work
together
with
the
people
who
provide
the
services
and
figure
out
these
solutions.
It
made
me
feel
very,
very
happy
to
hear
that
I'm,
a
retired
social
worker
I,
was
also
the
supervisor
of
a
chronically
mentally
ill
for
one
of
the
major
counties
in
New
York
State
I
was
a
supervisor
for
that
program.
T
I've
worked
with
the
homeless
over
the
years
and
I
have
been
working
in
the
kitchen
within
Mount
Moriah,
and
also
Mount
Hermon,
preparing
food
and
serving
the
food.
So
I
have
been
having
the
opportunity
to
really
meet
some
of
these
people,
and
it's
amazing,
if
you
ever
have
the
opportunity
to
do
this
to
just
sit
down
with
them.
This
is
not
you
can't
lump
them
into
one
category.
Everyone
is
different
who
walks
in
that
door,
and
you
start
to
feel
and
understand
the
struggles
that
each
of
the
people
having
when
they
come
in.
T
They
don't
come
in
because
they
want
to
they
come
in
because
they
have
to
and
I.
You
know,
I
just
want
to
say
that
and
in
terms
of
the
mentally
ill
problem,
there's
no
easy
solutions
to
that.
I
worked
in
I
supervised
a
unit
for
that
and
they
come
in
sometimes,
and
you
can
see
how
how
much
pain
they're
in
and
I
have
to
say
that
what
I
do,
because
sometimes
it's
upsetting
to
me
to
see
that
I
just
think
wow.
T
This
person
is
and
suffers
so
much
in
their
life
and
once
I
do
that,
then
I
could
reach
out
to
that
person
once
I
can
open
my
heart
to
them.
So
I'm,
just
really
inspired
that
you
know
I'm,
so
happy
I
moved
to
put
arpan
Springs
I,
think
it's
a
place
that
does
have
a
heart
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
to
working
even
more
and
having
more
of
the
services
provided
for
this
population.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AA
AA
There
are
far
more
qualified
people
than
I
on
the
homeless
issue
that
have
gotten
up
and
spoken
and
I
for
one
appreciate
everything
that
the
organizations
within
tarpon
springs
do
to
help
the
homeless
I
was
concerned
in
the,
and
especially
the
reason
that
I
came
out
and
yes,
I
saw
different
posts
and
things
being
talked
about
what
well
maybe
what
may
be
discussed
tonight,
and
obviously
that
concerned
me
because
I
have
seen
communities
that
target
homelessness
by
basically
criminalizing
homelessness.
This
is
tell
me
you
may
know.
AA
I
was
arrested
back
in
2011
for
sharing
food
with
the
homeless
in
Orlando
when
they
made
sharing
food
illegal,
I'm
very
concerned,
because
that's
not
the
that's.
That
was
the
law
that
got
all
of
the
publicity.
There
are
lots
of
other
ordinances
and
laws
that
were
put
into
place
that
specifically
targeted
the
homeless
and
those
laws
do
not
target
just
the
vagrants
or
chronic
homeless.
You
know
you
cannot
separate
that
when
we
start
looking
at
those
types
of
solutions,
so
I'm
all
for
exploring
solutions
and
I
think
partnering
with
these
community
members.
AA
That
know
a
lot.
It's
extremely
important,
but
I
want
to
caution,
exploring
certain
ordinances
and
laws
that
would
in
essence,
criminalize
homelessness,
because
this
is
not
an
issue,
unfortunately,
that
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
can
solve
or
any
city
or
any
county.
You
know:
we've
traded
in
mental
health
care
for
jail
cells,
which
is
a
huge
contributing
factor
to
homelessness
in
our
streets.
So
we
can
do
a
lot
as
a
community
and
and
obviously
we
have
lots
of
caring
community
members,
which
is
really
great
to
see
people
come
out
and
and
concerned.
AA
You
know
that
about
this
issue
and
I
definitely
don't
envy
the
position
that
the
city
commissioners
are
in
hearing
it,
obviously
for
merchants
and
from
community
members,
so
I
don't
envy
the
position
and
because
it's
not
an
easy
topic,
a
not
an
easy
solution,
but
it's
a
long
term,
a
long-term
solution,
so
I
know
you
know
was
mentioned.
If
we
can
get
this
done.
Get
this
done.
AA
So
that's
why
I'm
here
I
just
wanted
to
get
up
and-
and
really
you
know,
I
understand
that
that
we
aren't
going
to
talk
about
not
serving
certain
people
and
everything,
but
I
guess
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
reiterate
at
that
point
and
that
you
know
using
ordinances
and
laws
against
the
homeless
can
have
other
effects
as
well,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
in
mind.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
AB
My
name
is
Christopher
Pleiades
I
resided
in
Oakland,
village,
139,
seven
krilov,
good,
tarpon
springs,
I
coordinate
and
oversee
the
kitchen
at
San
Nicolas
and
all
these
years
we
don't
have
any
problems,
but
I
am
NOT
here
for
that
stuff.
I'm
here
to
officially
stop
the
fake
news,
you
call
it
now
the
policy
about
people,
some
peat
or
clear
water,
the
come
to
our
city.
AB
AB
Sometime,
advise
them
guide
them,
chastise
them,
but
they're
all
friendly.
We
have
any
problem
a
but
I,
always
I
see
the
same
faces
except
you
new
faces
who
they
come
for
the
housing
project
and
early
people,
but
nobody
is
from
some
peat
or
any
place
Alice
whatever
we
have
everybody's
from
Tarpon
Springs
and
we
are
a
place
community,
all
of
us
here
as
play,
but
we
need
to
learn
how
to
carry
those
who
left
back
homeless
is
going
back
to
1870
hundred
and
ninety
hundred
during
depression
coming
up
always
going
to
be
homeless.
AB
Now
the
several
Center,
the
director,
a
dimension,
the
Hope
Center,
that's
a
good
solution,
and
because
every
problem
here
solution,
so
we
coming
up
to
service
corner
up
with
the
plans
and
a
couple
who
you
supported
a
reference
to
the
commissioner
mention
at
the
ascent.
That
was
a
mistake.
Buckland
about
that
stuff.
That
stuff
is
an
except
in
our
city,
but
the
Commission
is
to
assign
a
committee
with
a
police
officer,
and
the
police
needs
to
investigate
that,
because
I
have
cop
commissioners
mention
a
property
is
damaged.
AB
AC
Good
evening
name
is
Vasily
feckless
929
your
own
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
and
third-generation
business
owner
for
over
a
hundred
years.
In
this
city
we
love
the
city,
as
all
of
you
do
here
and
I
applaud
everyone
here.
I
applaud
the
the
commissioners.
I
applaud
the
police
department,
our
Fire
Department
paramedics,
all
of
the
agencies
that
are
here
helping
Rana
dad.
We
work
closely
with
him
as
well,
with
all
the
programs
that
he
does
and
in
the
Shepherd
Center
as
well,
and
yes,
I
am
one
of
those
business
owners
that
and
concerned
residents.
AC
That
constantly
are
calling
the
police
department
because
I've
been
told
to
so
it
will
go
on
record
and
notifying
these
commissioners
and
I
won't
share
with
you.
The
pictures,
because
they're
very
graphic
of
defecation
urination
vomit,
urine
blood
clothes,
mattresses,
condoms
that
we're
picking
up
on
a
daily
basis.
I
get
to
my
business
early
I
have
people
passed
out
on
my
doorsteps.
AC
We
have
panhandlers
that
are
constant
pain,
Hatter's
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
Shepherd,
Center
or
Noblin,
saying
that
the
Shepherd
Center
is
causing
this,
but
we
have
to
relook
at
our
programs
together
as
a
community.
We
have
to
look
at
our
ordinances
and,
yes,
we
do
think
outside
the
box
as
a
business.
We
are
a
shoe
store.
So
through
we
used
to
give
shoes
to
an
international
program,
we
stopped
doing
that.
AC
But
whatever
you
call
it,
we
are
talking
about
illegal
things
that
are
going
on
and
I'm
not
knocking
the
police
department.
I
applaud
them,
because
whenever
we
call
them
they
come,
but
this
is
a
chronic
situation,
we're
trying
to
run
businesses.
I
have
customers
that
are
afraid
to
go
into
the
parking
lots.
My
employees
are
afraid
my
employees
are
telling
me
I
have
to
clean
this
on
a
daily
basis.
AC
It's
not
good
for
business,
and
these
businesses
were
the
businesses
that
donate
to
these
programs
in
its
every
time
you
call
they
have
to
they
have
to
respond.
It
looks
like
it's.
You
know
a
high
crime
area,
my
dad
my
88
year
old
father,
who
was
accosted
in
our
back
parking
lot,
the
other
day
by
someone
you
whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
They
were
there
and
he
they
wanted
money
and
he
said
I
don't
have
money
and
they
get
very
aggressive.
AC
These
are
the
people
we're
not
talking
about
everybody,
but
we're
talking
about
these
people
that
get
aggressive
and
they've
told
him
I'm
a
I'm,
a
veteran
I'm,
a
disabled
veteran.
He
says
well
I'm
a
disabled
veteran
too,
and
my
four
minutes
are
approaching,
but
the
we
have
to
we
have
to
change
things
together.
We
can
do
that.
That's
all
we're
saying
we're
not
here
to
attack
we're
here
to
help
and
I
know.
We
can't
do
that
together
as
a
community.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
Nick
Jonas
1021,
a
Moulton
Avenue
I
also
happen
to
be
a
worker
for
the
city
and
I
just
want
the
city
to
acknowledge
that
there
is
a
big
problem
with
the
long
term
or
I'm
gonna
call
them
transients
that
are
coming
through
town
and
causing
problems.
This
is
not
the
people
who
need
a
hand
up
or
help
for
just
a
little
bit
of
temporary
thing.
These
are
the
people
who
are
constantly
out
there.
Like
Vasily
was
just
saying
they'll
accost
you
they
come
up
and
they
always
want
something.
AD
I
could
tell
you
for
a
fact.
Two
days
a
week,
I
go
out
into
the
parks
and
clean
up
in
the
parks.
The
ball
fields
everywhere,
like
everywhere
else
around
the
town,
there's
Craig,
Park
I,
have
found
used
needles
at
around
the
Bayou
I've
found
needles
at
Mother.
Mears
parking
up,
blot
I
found
need
needles
at
behind
the
train.
AD
AD
Recently
saw
a
video
of
a
vagrant
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
exposing
himself
in
front
of
the
Panera
Bread
Store.
That's
not
something
that
anyone
needs
to
see
any
kids
or
anything
like
that.
They're
leaving
garbage
shopping
carts,
they're,
causing
a
lot
of
people
to
do
extra
work
to
clean
up
so
that
other
people
don't
see
it
they're,
starting
to
sleep
down
at
Sunset.
Beach
now
and
I
have
to
disagree
with
some
people
earlier
that
I
spoke
to
a
gentleman.
AD
He
was
laying
on
the
bench
at
the
Sponge,
Docks
and
I
knew
it
looked
bad,
so
I
came
up
to
him
and
asked
them
us.
You
know,
struck
up
a
conversation
and
he
says
aw
man
I
just
love
it
here,
I
love
it
here.
He
goes
I've
been
putting
this
off
for
a
while.
My
friends
have
been
telling
me
to
come
to
Tarpon
for
a
while.
He
goes
it
makes
it
really
easy
for
us
and
he
said
he
came
from
Largo,
so
these
are
just
things
that
I've
experienced
so
anyway.
AD
Just
in
closing,
it
is
a
big
problem
that
is
going
to
start
affecting
tourism
and
pop
property
values,
possibly
though,
and
hopefully
something
that
doesn't
happen
before
that
changes
again
I'm
talking
about
the
people
who
don't
want
help,
the
people
who
have
no
desire
to
improve
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
Shepherd.
Center
are
all
the
good
work
that
they
do
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AE
Karlsville
Megan
one
zero,
zero,
six,
Osprey,
Court
and
tarpon
springs.
It
looks
like
we're
gonna
to
the
place
where,
in
which
we've
been
in
cable,
express
what
our
concerns
are
both
from
the
Commission
as
well
as
for
those
who
have
supported
through
the
agencies
that
try
to
assist
in
making
our
community
welcoming
to
all,
particularly
those
who
have
severe
needs.
I
heard
that
that
we
are
moving
forward
to
having
some
kind
of
a
gathering
where
we
can
have
an
open
discussion
and
we
can
all
be
better
educated
about
the
needs.
AE
The
Commission
sees
as
well
as
what
the
serving
agency
see
as
a
way
that
we
need
the
Commission
to
help
us
and
to
do
a
better
job.
So
does
the
do
you
have
a
plan
for
how
we
will
proceed
then
from
tonight
now
to
get
move
that
forward
down
the
road
and
I
appreciate?
If
someone
could
respond,
how
we
will
move
forward,
because
we
want
to
work
together
and
address
the
needs.
AE
J
A
J
You
and
again
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
tonight,
because
this
is
a
very
sensitive
issue
and
an
important
issue,
and
here
in
our
community
and
like
I,
said
we
want
to
work
together
with
all
the
organizations
here
in
town
that
help
our
homeless
and
our
veterans
and
and
families.
Anyone
in
need.
J
You
know:
local
people
and
our
families
and
all
right,
like
I,
said
in
our
veterans
and-
and
just
so
you
know,
I
I
raised
a
lot
of
money
throughout
the
year
with
the
organization
that
I'm
part
of
the
Elks
Lodge
we
put
on
functions
throughout
the
year,
and
we
raised
a
lot
of
money
for
this
community
and
we
give
back
to
the
community
and
we're
very
proud
of
what
we
do.
We
send
baskets
and
baskets
of
food
and
clothes
throughout
the
community.
J
We
donate
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
and
to
we
send
clothes
down
to
the
veterans,
so
there's
a
lot
that
we
do
as
well
as
an
organization,
so
I
would
like
to
maybe
see
if
I
can
involve
the
lodge
as
well
into
this
discussion
that
we
hopefully
can
have
and
and
come
together
again
as
a
community
and
and
resolve
our
problems.
Thank
you.
A
F
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
I
think
what
the
main
concern
was.
It's
we've
had
the
homeless
issues
and
a
lot
of
issues
in
the
city,
but
the
illegal
issues
with
defecation
and
panhandling
and
those
things
are
what
have
a
lot
of
business
owners
and
citizens
concerned.
People
are
afraid
to
go
out
into
the
alleys
or
come
into
their
businesses.
That's
driving
tourists
away
and-
and
we
really
do
need
to
discuss
these
things
and
again
I.
F
You
know
I
think
that
the
only
way
we
can
move
forward
is
to
have
a
discussion
with
all
the
agencies
and
everyone
involved
and
figure
out
what
we
need
to
do
so
together.
As
a
community,
we
can
figure
out
what
we
need
to
do
with
our
Police,
Department
and
and
I
think
our
board
to
to
see
what
we
need
to
do
to
move
forward,
because
just
discussing
it
isn't
going
to
get
us
anywhere.
So
you
know,
I
had
mentioned
earlier.
F
I
was
on
the
homeless
leadership
board
for
almost
four
years,
and
statistics
show
that
about
40%
of
our
homeless
are
have
severe
mental
illness.
So
that's
that's
a
whole
other
issue,
but
these
illegal
activities
are
what's
you
know?
We
need
to
also
end
somehow
so
so
our
citizens
and
our
tourists
can
can
feel
safe
in
Tarpon
Springs,
so
applaud
everybody
that
that
is
a
service
member
and
helps,
but
we're
not
talking
about
families
and
and
people
who
are
hard
power
up
and
luck
and
and
and
just
need
some
help.
F
N
L
You
mayor,
thank
you
all
for
the
public
comment
for
coming
out
and
speaking
I
do
want
to
reiterate,
I
believe
what
Commissioner
kicked
and
Commissioner
Eber
also
said.
This
is
a
difference
between
someone
that
is
chronic
homeless
and
then
someone
that's
having
a
hard
out
in
their
life
or
having
a
falling
on
hard
luck
with
families,
young
kids.
L
So
if
it
was
misunderstood
that
I'm
saying
anything
about
someone,
that's
in
a
hard
time,
that's
not
what
I'm
trying
to
that's,
not
what
I
was
trying
to
convey,
there's,
definitely
difference,
I,
believe
and
I
think
we
all
know
the
difference
between
someone
that
wants
to
live
in
the
street
and
someone
that's
really
trying
to
get
back
on
their
feet.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
in
here
and
looking
forward
to
discussing
us
further
and
coming
to
a
solution.
Sometime
this
year.
I
That
came
out
tonight
and
waited
around
to
get
to
you
to
give
us
your
comment
and
your
input.
We
look
forward
to
those
that
are
part
of
the
providing
organizations
and
other
that
I'll
be
working
with
our
city
manager
and
she's
the
police
one
one
whatever
it
was
it
was.
It
was
mentioned
by
one
individual
that
perhaps
we
don't
do
anything
for
the
homelessness
as
far
as
financially
mark.
How
much
do
we
give
each
year
to
be
almost
leadership
board
and
then
number
two?
I
You
know
you
know
it's
they're
going
to
cut
me
off
from
out
from
up
from
other
places,
I'm
not
saying
that's
a
bad
thing,
but
it's
a
fact.
So
that's
not
something
that
this
board
can
decide
or
legislate,
but
I
think
as
a
community.
We
have
to
talk
about
and
decided
what
are
we
gonna
be
known
for
and
what's
the
balance
between
helping
those
in
our
community
that
are
in
need
providing
those
services
are
then
attracting
those
from
outside
of
really
as
well
I.
A
Thank
you
I
also
like
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
tonight
and
again,
I
like
to
say
how
grateful
I
am
to
the
organization's
of
the
churches
for
providing
cotton
mills
you
go
to
the
people
who
need
and
I
also
like
to
you
I'm,
looking
forward
to
to
see
the
plan
that
mr.
Lucas
is
going
to
provide
us
to
work
with,
and
I
like
to
thank
my
fellow
commissioners
for
means
to
understanding
and
work
on
this
issue.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight.
A
J
I
I
just
want
to
apologize,
I
was
told
my
demeanor
in
the
last
Commission
meeting
looked
upset
and
tired.
I
was
covering
for
two
people
at
work
and
I
was
hungry,
so
I
apologize
for
my
for
my
facial
expression
and
they
had
doing
the
last
meeting
and
also
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
our
employees
that
worked
on
4th
of
July
with,
and
also
thank
you
to
waste
management
response
for
in
the
event
at
over
act
right
part,
it
was
very
busy
and
I
was
work
knowledge,
our
employees,
that.
J
I
A
J
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A
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F
U
Down
the
next
block
we're
looking
at
what
to
do
there,
so
we
can
certainly
as
we're
looking
at,
which
is
not
easy.
It's
not
a
simple
thing.
You
paint
the
lines
and
you
go
that's
a
very
dangerous
situation
and
working
with
the
police,
you
can't
you
don't
create
a
crosswalk.
That's
going
to
cause
danger
more
dangerous,
though
so,
but
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
coordinate
when
we
work
on
the
configuration
of
that
I'd
stop.
You
know
we're
tarping
Avenue
ends
that
may
be
the
county
working
a
lot.
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F
U
F
U
U
If
we're
gonna
go
strive
to
crosswalk,
can
we
talk
with
them
and
obviously
with
their
row,
we
get
the
measure,
but
we're
like
it
doesn't
take
that
much
to
go
up
to
the
next
intersection
and
stripe
to
so
so
we'll
work
out
something
like
that.
Just
because
they've
left
don't
mean
it's
gonna
be
a
long
time
before
they're
back.
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But
again,
you
know
great
cooperates
for
them
to
do
that
change
and
find
in
their
budget
and
move
up
that
project,
but
that's
just
a
small
sample
what
they
did
on
the
railroad
by
River
Village
in
the
trail
and
working
with
us,
the
to
City
and
County
teams
working
together,
we're
seeing
that
all
over
city
and
they
were
there
responding
as
you,
some
of
you
on
the
Commission
have
been
talking
people
accounting
stuff.
There
there's
the
great
response
and
I
hope
when
the
new
administrator
comes
with
his
philosophy.
A
L
L
I
would
also
like
men,
the
police
chief
on
how
the
traffic
was
escorted
back
out
of
town
with
posing
down
some
of
the
roads,
I'm,
not
sure
how
it
was
fully
how
how
how
was
accepted
by
everybody,
I
thought
was
a
good
idea,
though,
push
him
towards
the
main.
The
main
artery
is
out
of
town
instead
of
around
the
bayous.
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Also,
I
would
like
to
encourage
all
the
commissioners
when
you
see
these
areas
to
reach
out
to
the
county,
because
they
want
to
hear
from
us
and
there's
also
areas
along
mirrors
that
I've
brought
up
as
well
and
need
crosswalks
too.
So
it's
important
that
they
hear
from
us
that
they
said
one
of
their
initiatives
that
they're
looking
at
is
more
pedestrian
safety,
so
they're
very
open
to
looking
at
crosswalks
and
working
with
the
city.
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We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
they
hear
from
us
often
and
when
I
hear
from
more
than
one
of
us,
it's
even
better
louder
voice
right.
So
there
were
some
opportunities
along
that
spring
bolt
or
spring
boulevard
and
grand
intersection,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
look
at
some
alternatives
to
the
4-way,
stop
moving
forward
in
the
future
as
well
that
I'd
like
to
discuss
with
the
city
manager
at
some
point,
don't
no
further
comments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
A
I
also
like
to
congratulate
the
county
commissioners,
David
Eggers
and
Commissioner
Pat
jig,
or
were
they
over
election?
The
both
are
very
good
to
work
with
yesterday,
I
had
my
monthly
meeting
with
Commissioner
Eggers,
and
we
discussed
many
projects
that
we
won
the
accounted
here
to
do
in
the
county
roads,
including
via
doing
shorelines
in
the
Wiccan
Bulevar,
as
well
as
the
anglo
Road
know
that
we
discussed
in
that
and
some
of
the
things
that
not
as
serious
as
the
area
know.
If
anyone
has
any
concerns
I'm
having
a
meeting
with
the
Commission
every
month.
I
I
I
know
you
have
regular
me:
I
mean
I,
appreciate
that
that's
I
do
want
to
thank
missioner.
Are
you
have
and
the
short
year
you've
been
on
this
board
done
Farmar
with
the
county
that
I
had
in
my
five
years,
I
campaigned
on
being
a
watchdog
against
the
county
and
rightfully
so
in
some
areas,
when
we
had
that,
but
I
think
we're
progressing
now
and
I
I
really
do.
Thank
you
for
your
diligence
with
the
county.
I
I
know
you
driven
around
Michener's
that
all
they
have
been
to
talk
them
before
and
you
you
know
I
think
have
helped
mission
directors
as
well
as
the
mayor's
meeting
with
commissioners
on
health
can
be
more
engaged
in
Tarpon
Springs.
Where
I
mean
this
is
we
haven't?
Had
this
kind
of
representation
on
the
county
I'm
in
my
memory,
I
think
y'all's
efforts
and
how
you
all
communicate
with
the
county
really
does
help
that
so,
where
I'm
lacking
that
area,
I
think
you'll
pick
up
that
slack.
So.