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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners October 8, 2019 Part 1
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Regular Session & Work Session
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We
also
support
those
courageously
fighting
breast
cancer
and
honor
the
lives
lost
to
the
disease,
and
whereas
this
October,
we
recognize
breast
cancer
survivors,
those
fighting
the
disease,
the
families
of
France
were
tireless
source
of
love
and
encouragement
and
applaud
the
efforts
of
all
medical
professionals
and
researchers
working
to
find
cure
for
this
deadly
disease.
Now,
therefore,
acrylic
oozes
by
the
virtue
of
the
authority
vested
in
me
as
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
October
2018
as
the
Breast
Cancer
Awareness
Month.
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Good
evening,
Heather
all
are
planning
his
owning
director
I'd
like
to
express
my
appreciation
on
behalf
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Department
for
recognizing
Community
Planning
Month.
A
robust
planning
program
is
one
of
the
community's
best
assets.
A
great
planning
program
needs
ample
resources
and
support
from
the
community
to
thrive.
Over
the
last
several
years,
the
city's
planning
program
has
been
transitioning,
attempting
to
better
integrate
the
various
other
city
departments
to
ensure
development
is
completed
in
a
timely
and
fairer
way.
This
is
added.
This
has
added
value.
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You
can
see
all
around
our
community
at
this
point
in
time.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Department
is
going
to
be
transitioning
again
as
I
prepare
to
leave
it's
with
hope
and
gratitude.
That
I
say
goodbye
I'd
like
to
take
a
brief
moment
just
to
say,
thanks
to
a
few
folks,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
Merchants
Association,
who
are
most
representatives
in
the
audience
tonight,
and
all
the
business
owners
and
developers
in
the
community.
You
made
working
with
you
a
joy
I'd
like
to
thank
the
community
members
serving
on
the
various
advisory
boards.
E
You
do
not
always
make
the
job
easy,
but
each
of
you
deeply
cares
for
your
community,
so
the
department
heads
on
the
other
city
staff
I
enjoy
working
with
all
of
you
and
wish
you
all
the
best
to
the
planning
staff
and
Karen
lemons
you're,
all
very
special
people.
Thank
you
for
sharing
my
vision
and
working
so
very
hard.
I'll
miss
you
all
and
finally,
to
city
manager,
Marco
chorus
who
apparently
he's
not
here
tonight.
We
did
not
always
see
eye
to
eye,
but
we
could
always
put
aside
our
differences
and
get
the
job
done.
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Heather,
you
just
bat
made
me
cry.
We
appreciate
how
much
you've
done
or
the
past
has
been
five
years
for
the
city
and
and
how
much
we've
moved
board
with
your
leadership
in
planning
and
zoning
and
I
appreciate
everything.
You've
done
and
I
wish.
You
lots
of
luck
and
your
new
venture
I
want
to
keep
hearing
from
you.
But
again,
thank
you
for
all
you
did
for
the
city
and
and
what
great
changes
you've
made
and
moved
us
forward
so
appreciate
you
very
much.
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Good
evening,
Diane
would
director
of
cultural
and
civic
services.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
honor
all
across
the
United
States
we're
celebrating
the
arts
and
humanities
and
I.
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
our
department
as
Tarpon
arts,
as
well
as
the
library,
because
the
arts
are
so
important
in
the
lives
of
our
young
people
as
well
as
us.
You
know
in
this
day
and
age.
You
know
it's
been
so
proven
that
you
know
the
arts
contributes
to
reducing
stress
and
helping
concentration,
there's
just
so
many
different
things
that
it
contributes
to
our
well-being.
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Mayor
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
Proclamation,
whereas
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
is
committed
to
ensuring
the
safety
and
security
of
all
those
living
and
living
in
and
visiting,
and
whereas
fire
is
a
serious
public.
Safety
concern
both
locally
and
nationally
and
homes
are
locations
where
people
are
at
the
greatest
risk
from
fire.
And
whereas,
when
the
smoke
alarm
sounds,
residents
may
have
less
than
two
minutes
to
escape
to
safety,
and
whereas
residents
who
have
planned
and
practice
a
home
fire
escape
plan,
are
more
prepared
and
will
therefore
be
more
likely
to
survive
a
fire.
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And
whereas
residents
should
make
sure
everyone
in
the
home
knows
how
to
call
9-1-1
or
local
emergency
number.
And
whereas
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
first
responders
are
dedicated
to
reducing
the
occurrence
of
home
fires
and
home
fire
injuries
through
prevention
and
protection,
education
and
whereas
2019
Fire,
Prevention
Week
theme,
not
every
hero
wears
a
cape
plan
and
practice.
Your
escape
effectively
serves
to
remind
us
that
we
need
to
take
personal
steps
to
increase
our
safety
from
fire.
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We
are
now
going
to
the
consent
agenda.
I
know.
Number
five
is
special
events.
A
is
a
sponsor.
Duxi
Festival,
on
November,
8th
through
T
in
2019
B
is
a
snow
place.
December
6,
2009
teen
C
is
the
boat
parade,
December
6,
2009
teen,
the
art
of
health
March
28
2026
is
the
award
file
number
to
0,
0
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15
and
as
CM
synchro
source
purchase
of
van
con
Original
Equipment
Manufacturer
parts
in
services.
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Is
resolution
2019
30
resolution
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
proving
application
19
92,
requesting
final
development
plan
approval
for
caliber
collision
automobile
collision
repair
center,
providing
for
certificate
of
concurrency
providing
for
conditions
of
providing
for
an
effective
date?
That
was
a
reading
of
resolution.
2019
30
by
title
only.
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Evening,
zoning
director
and
staff
to
this
application,
this
application
is
falling
on
an
application
that
we
finished
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
which
was
an
amendment
to
a
planned
development
overlay
district
and
during
that
planned
development.
We
essentially
set
the
zoning
district
to
allow
for
caliber
collision
to
come
in
with
their
final
development
plan,
which
essentially
is
their
final
site
plan.
What
you
have
before
you
is,
in
fact
their
final
site
plan.
It's
a
feather
it's
about
her
large
document.
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If
you
have
any
specific
questions,
we
can
answer
them,
but
essentially
we
tender
the
staff
report.
Nothing
has
really
changed
since
the
preliminary
plan
and
it's
consistent
with
all
of
the
concurrency
requirements
of
the
land
of
elma
code.
It's
consistent
with
all
of
the
technical
specs
and
your
comprehensive
plan
and
your
technical
review
team
has
found
it
could
technically
consistent
with
all
provisions
of
the
land,
development
code
and
and
all
of
the
other
city
codes.
As
a
result,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
application.
There's
been
no
request
for
waivers
staff.
E
Has
a
couple
of
conditions
we'd
like
to
add
on
to
this
approval,
and
essentially
the
staff
recommended
approval
conditions,
are
developers
response
for
attaining
applicable
permits
from
all
of
the
agencies
and
meeting
all
the
new
requirements
of
the
comprehensive
zoning
and
land
development
code
applicant
shall
complete
the
process
for
a
final
plat,
including
all
of
the
attendant
easements
and
covenants.
A
building
permit
application
and
final
construction
plans
shall
be
submitted
within
one
year
of
the
date
of
the
final
development.
Final
planned
development
approval
and
those
are
the
conditions,
as
stated
by
staff.
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Not
the
drinking
age
is
still
handled
by
a
master
drainage
system
that
was
permanent
under
the
original
permit.
It
still
can
the
permit
the
system
is
still
working.
All
of
the
covenants
will
actually
be
required
to
be
in
place
at
the
time
when
the
final
plat
comes
forward,
they're
working
on
the
final
plat
as
we
speak,
so
we
don't
anticipate
any
issues
with
that
and
ask
for
noise
that
those
conditions
have
not
changed.
Most
of
the
work
that
they
have
here
is
done
inside
the
building.
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E
A
trip
is
again:
it's
not
a
trip,
as
you
plan
a
trip
as
an
individual
going
out.
It's
it's
a
it's
an
algorithm,
that's
used
to
account
for
the
number
of
vehicles
that
will
actually
be
entering
and
leaving
a
site
on
any
given
day.
So
some
of
those
trips
are
actually
shared
trips
that
you
might
not
that
you
would
be
picking
up
your
car
always,
but
you
may
be
picking
up
your
car
and
then
going
to
other
places.
So
there's
a
shared
value.
That's.
A
E
Those
are
those
are
actually
determined
based
on
their
standard
model.
Again,
this
facility
may
be
different.
It
again.
It
depends
on
the
traffic
flow
that
actually
comes
to
this
facility
for
repair
they're,
giving
you
their
basic
their
basic
information
based
on
this
size
facility
that
they
utilize
on
their
standard
floor.
They
can
may
be
able
to
actually
speak
to
that
more
that
question
very
more
specifically
to
because
again
they
have
more
criteria.
They
have
more
understanding
of
how
their
actual
operation
operates,
but
we
aren't
anticipating
any
issue
with
those
additional
trips.
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One
I
noticed
the
landscape
playing
there's
a
lot
of
trees,
they're
going
above
and
beyond,
what's
required
right
by
code
to
help
correct
cover
this
building
up
from
the
neighborhood
caucus.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
and
also
I
notice,
the
stop
signs
and
the
street
signs
look
like
they
are
using
the
powder-coated
decorative
sign
too.
So
thank
you
for
working
with
African
on
that
one.
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Specifically
to
your
question
about
traffic,
the
the
508
is
actually
not
the
that
is
not
by
the
caliber.
That
was
a
total
that
was
a
previously
approved
for
the
master
plan.
When
this
was
all
retail.
The
caliber
actually
is
a
good
bit
lower
than
that.
It's
53
on
the
peak
when
you
throw
in
the
retail,
you
have
a
northern
tool,
that's
out
there
and
they
already
a
pro
already
approved
retail.
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The
ite
II
classification
for
automotive
repair
is
specific
to
automotive
repair,
as
if
you
were
actually
going
to
get
your
car
repaired
much
different
than
my
car
got
hit
and
it
has
to
come
in
and
get
you
know
buffed
out
and
painted
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
There
just
doesn't
happen
to
be
an
ite
classification,
automobile
automobile
repair
that
only
deals
with
painting
body.
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A
Well,
we
have
currently
we
have
four
vacancies
on
this
public
art
committee.
Two
members
have
requested
to
be
reappointed.
Number
one
is
to
reappoint
Julie
Ike
Ike
Myers
to
another
three
years
term.
This
term
will
expire,
October,
31st,
2022
and
the
other
reappointment
is
for
Patricia
Gregory
for
the
alternate
number
one
for
another
three-year
term.
This
term
will
expire,
October,
31st,
2022
I
will
support
the
both
of
those
reappointments.
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Just
want
to
tell
everybody
about
salsa
on
the
docks
this
Saturday,
it's
usually
a
huge
event
and
looking
forward
to
it,
we
bring
people
from
all
over
and
buses.
We
don't
the
organizers,
do
the
Merchants,
Association
or
in
charge
of
that
so
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
that,
and
just
want
to
wish
Heather
good
luck
again,
it's
sad
to
see
her
go
and
that's
it
thanks.
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You
I
have
several
announcements
to
make
Friday
October
11th.
We
have
the
free
produce,
giveaway
sponsored
by
the
farm
share
and
Pinellas
County
Board
of
Commissioners
at
the
same
st.
Timothy's,
Lutheran
Church
that
begins
at
9:00
a.m.
you're,
also
looking
for
volunteers.
If
anyone
is
interested
to
help
out,
please
go
there
and
I'm
going
to
be
jumping
out
as
well.
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Sorry,
October
joy.
We
have
the
sunset
beach
cleanup,
sponsored
by
the
city
of
Tartu,
Springs
and
keepin.
Elves
beautiful
begins
in
10
a.m.
to
noon.
The
mission
super
dementia,
but
the
salsa
that's
going
to
be
a
great
event:
Friday
October
18th.
We
have
the
healthy
hop
transportation
for
seniors
workshop.
They
will
be
presented
by
the
PSTA
at
2
p.m.
at
the
library.
People
will
learn
about
senior
transportation,
free
transportation
for
seniors
65
years
or
older
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
very
beneficial
for
people
to
go
not
only
for
the
seniors,
but
also
people.
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A
I
like
to
remind
you,
everyone
that
the
work
sessions
are
primary
design
for
information
gathering
and
guidance.
No
formal,
Commission
decision
approving
or
disapproving
in
item
may
be
made.
Only
staff
members
will
be
included
in
the
work
session
discussion
unless
prior
arrangements
have
been
made
through
the
city
manager,
city,
clerk
or
city
attorney.
The
only
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
Charter
Review
recommendations
and
if
we
remember
on
the
September
24th,
it's
a
last
regular
meeting.
Mr.
A
colleano
is
the
chairman
of
the
Charter
Review
Commission,
presented
to
us
their
proposed
amendments
of
the
Charter
Review
Commission,
and
we
decided
to
have
this
work
session
tonight
to
discuss
these
recommendations
have
requested
that
the
chair,
mr.
colleano,
still
be
present
tonight.
To
answer
any
questions
that
we
might
have
is
a
front
and
Senate
already.
Thank
you
for
being
here
with
Napoleon.
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K
So
it's
my
suggestion
that
we
go
through
each
one
of
these
sections
section
by
section.
Ask
questions
if
you
have
questions
about
the
particular
section
and
then
discussion
on
each
particular
section,
any
specific
changes
that
you
would
request.
I
would
also
remind
you
at
the
end
of
the
day,
whatever
suggestions
that
are
it's
going
to
go
back
to
the
committee
for
consideration.
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So
it's
titled
amendments
and
it
reads
as
follows:
this
charter
may
be
amended,
as
provided
in
section
166
point-o
3-1,
Florida
Statutes,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
shall
appointed
charter
revision
Commission
at
least
every
five
years
to
review
the
provisions
thereof
and
recommend
any
changes
to
this.
In
this
Charter,
such
commission
shall
be
composed
of
seven
members
and
the
affirmative
vote
of
four.
Such
members
shall
be
required
to
propose
any
change
to
this
Charter.
K
So
it's
commission
shall
receive
comment
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
charter
officials
and
the
public
and
then
shall
transmit
the
proposed
charter
amendments
in
ordinance
form
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
further
comment:
that's
where
we
are
today,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
shall,
within
30
days
return
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
Charter
vision
Commission
with
its
recommended
proposals.
Those
are
obviously
changes
to
what
the
Commission
is
suggesting.
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The
Board
of
Commissioners
shall,
within
a
hundred
and
twenty
days
of
such
final
report,
hold
an
election
on
the
recommended
proposals
in
the
same
election,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
may
sponsor
its
own
proposals
and
also
including
public
initiative
proposals.
The
referendum
summary
shall
advise
the
public
as
to
whether
the
proposal
is
sponsored
by
the
charter
revision
Commission
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
or
by
public
initiative
in
the
event
of
any
conflict.
Among
the
proposals
that
proposal
receiving
the
greatest
number
of
affirmative
vote
shall
prevail
to
the
extent
of
that
conflict.
K
Upon
request
of
the
city
attorney
a
charter
revision
Commission
shall
render
an
advisory
opinion
to
the
city
attorney
concerning,
and
interpretation
of
this
charter.
That
was
a
reading
of
section
32
in
its
entirety.
It's
been
in
existence
in
some
form
since
1983.
The
last
amendments
to
this
particular
section
was
in
the
year
2000.
A
K
A
D
That
item
yeah
I
can
I
understand
the
intent
and
I
think
it's
well
designed
to
try
and
give
the
board
and
ultimately
staff
more
purchasing
power,
so
to
speak,
but
I
think.
No,
although
we
have
what
appears
to
be
a
big,
you
know:
62
million
dollar
budget
I
think
that
to
to
be
able
to
spend
a
half
million
dollars,
how
we
basically
choose
on
the
purchase
or
the
sale
of
property
is
it's
too
much.
D
I
could
see
going
up
a
little
bit,
especially
as
it
relates
to
like
our
particular
purchasing
power
and
right
now,
I
get
it
like.
For
example,
the
cemetery
was
a
great.
The
cemetery
expansion
was
a
great
use
of
this
power
right,
so
we
were
able
to
buy
a
piece
of
property
that
was,
you
know,
could
have
been
sold
for
probably
a
lot
more
money
to
anybody
on
the
open
market.
The
seller
wanted
to
make
a
deal
with
the
city,
so
they
kept
it
under
the
$250,000
yeah.
The
$250,000
price
point.
D
So
I
get
the
idea
of
trying
to
have
more
purchasing
power
in
the
event
that
that
parcel
was
sold
at
market
value
for
315.
It
was
something
that
we
really
needed,
but
I'm
not
I,
don't
support
the
half.
A
million
I
think
that
that's
still
too
much
and
I
think
that
the
residents
ultimately
will
also
believe
that
when
it
comes
time
to
vote
on
it
I
could
come.
You
know.
I
would
certainly
be
willing
to
compromise
and
on
a
higher
amount,
but
I
think
that
half
a
million
is
is
too
much.
A
D
A
I
understand
the
logic
behind
that,
but
the
thing
is
when
$250,000
was
actually
placed
into
the
year
to
the
Charter
was
many
years
ago
you
in
real
estate.
You
know
that
if
we're
going
to
buy
it
a
piece
of
property,
let's
say
to
build
a
pool
or
something
else-
the
recreation
$250,000,
not
goanna,
that
we
have
to
wait
till
he
goes
to
referendum.
But
then
you
know
that
deal
may
not
be
available.
A
D
F
A
I
In
this
situation,
I'm
a
little
bit
indifferent
about
it
I
understand
we
should
have
the
ability
we
buy
million-dollar
fire
trucks,
we
buy
million-dollar
equipment
for
the
water
plant.
The
one
thing
I
do
think
it's
beneficial
to
the
Commission
into
the
city.
Is
it
gives
a
city
negotiation
power?
The
two
examples
would
be
the
property
next,
the
Demi's
out
in
Gulf
Road
and
then
also
the
cemetery
needs.
A
new
cemetery
plot
that
vice
mayor
brought
up
is
that
they
both
fell
below
the
$250
for
$250,000
mark.
It
gives
a
city
manager,
negotiation
powers,
they
look.
I
I
can't
go
any
higher
than
this.
If
you
want
to
sell
this,
I
can't
go
any
higher
I'm.
Sorry,
unless
you
want
to
go
to
a
public
referendum
and
then
that's
gonna
take
place
I'm
trying
to
do
it
too.
I
do
understand
from
a
negotiation
standpoint.
It
puts
a
city
and
a
negotiating
power
I,
think
of
it's
less
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm,
never
one
to
stop
something
from
going
to
a
vote
to
the
resident,
so
I'm,
not
against
that.
If
it's
we
want
it.
A
N
For
the
record,
I
would
share
with
you
that
this
was
one
of
the
issues
that
we
handled,
that
there
was
relatively
simple
for
us,
because
everybody
who
came
to
speak
basically
wanted
to
increase
the
$500,000
didn't
seem
to
upset
anybody
the
purchase
of
the
properties
that
happen.
We
even
had
an
attorney
there,
who
told
us
that
the
reason
we
got
the
property
for
the
new
portions
for
the
cemetery
is
because
the
owner,
in
fact,
is
a
tarpon
night
and
he
did
it
for
the
city.
Otherwise
we
were
never
bought
it.
N
F
Yes,
I
know
that
initially
I
really
thought
500,000
was
okay,
but
I
feel
like
where
the
city
should
not
be
in
the
real-estate
business,
and
we
really
need
to
respect
our
residents
and
and
bring
things
to
referendum
to
help
them
decide
rather
than
decide
on
big
projects
like
there's,
like
the
hotel,
didn't
go
to
referendum
I
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
were
upset
about
it.
So
I
just
still
feel
that
our
citizens,
our
residents,
should
have
the
option
to
to
go
to
referendum
if
it's
over
350.
H
A
I
It
reads
as
the
following
to
preserve
and
maintain
city-owned
Park,
Recreation
and
waterfront
property,
no
Park,
Recreation
or
waterfront
property,
and
it
reads
on
etc.
But
the
part
that
I
have
questions
about
is
the
Board
of
Commissioners
by
ordinance
may
change
the
use,
including
the
elimination
of
green
space,
any
City,
Park
or
portion
thereof
only
after
an
affirmative
vote
of
4
members
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
after
three
public
meetings.
I
So
when
I
read
this
I
think
of
elimination
of
green
space,
so
if
I
want
to
get
technical
in
the
situation,
if
I
put
a
sidewalk
in
or
a
trail
and
we're
eliminating
green
space,
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
that
intent
of
this
portion
is
I.
Think
it's
a
rather
restricting
to
put
three
public
meetings
in
when
we
don't
have
any
other
requirements
of
the
Republic
meetings
that
I'm
aware
of
for
anything
else,
I,
just
don't
I
want
a
little
more
information.
N
Three
times
it's
not
a
big
deal
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna,
let's
just
say
hypothetically
you've
decided
Rotary
Park,
would
be
better
for
holding
stormwater
and
you
want
to
get
rid
of
that.
You
know
I'm
going
to
get
rid
of
it
under
this
and
unless
you
have
three
public
meeting
and
let
you
can.
I
If
we
want
to
build
a
bathroom
or
if
we
wanted
to
build
a
trail
out
at
Highland
Park
am
I
I
might
be
reading
too
far
into
this
I
think
this
I
think
it's
a
little
very
I
think
it's
actually
very
restrictive
on
how
it's
done
I
think,
there's
a
middle
ground
to
still
preserve
parks.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
see
is
a
park
paved
over
and
put
a
parking
lot
on
right.
Well,.
N
I
This
is
specifically
for
Craig
Park
than
about
the
boat
storage.
I.
Think
that's
an
issue
with
this,
because
it's
a
specific
item
that
we're
addressing
in
that
situation
myself
so
I
couldn't
support
the
letter
J
with
the
portion
that
I
read,
including
elimination
of
green
space
and
the
three
public
meetings.
I
N
A
passive
park
that
you
drive
by
I
totally
agree
with
you.
You
have
to
review
it
and
give
everything
their
due
diligence
for
you
to
make
a
determination
and
that's
basically
what
the
three
meetings
are
for,
as
you
can
see,
you're
having
a
work
session
and
you
have
regular
sessions
and
the
audience
is
not
here.
Okay,
most
people
when
we
hear
about
it
is
after
the
fact
Craig
Park
you're
going
to
take
out,
maybe
take
out
the
shuffleboard
courts.
The
building's
already
been
removed.
Nobody
remembers
when
that
came
down.
N
Where
do
we
get
that
green
space
back
shouldn't?
The
public
have
every
ample
opportunity
to
come
up
here
and
say?
No,
please
don't
do
the
buildings
gone
there
I
just
found
out
the
other
day.
The
building
was
done.
All
right,
I
found
out
sometime
ago
that
the
considering
parking
for
trailers,
because
that's
where
only
boat,
ramp,
it's
and
I-
think
that's
parking
for
trailers
is
a
necessity,
but
which
is
more
important.
N
N
I'll
tell
you
what
my
responsibility
where
that
trailer
went
when
I
put
the
boat
in
the
water?
Okay,
you
have
an
ordinance,
I,
believe
or
resolution
saying
you
didn't
want
the
people
to
park
trailers
after
they
launch
their
boats
in
the
fruitball
area.
Go
there
any
Saturday
and
Sunday
they're
loaded.
N
I
I
I
D
D
What
he's
saying
I
mean
to
me,
you
know
on
one
hand
we're
saying:
okay,
we
can
spend
a
half
a
million
dollars
right,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we're
saying
you
can't
put
in
a
sidewalk
or
you
can
you
know,
fulfill
a
need
or
a
demand
within
the
park.
The
way
that,
without
having
the
three
mitten
three
meetings
in
the
four
affirmative
votes,
which
I
don't
want
to
lose
any
green
space
either.
D
But
I
do
understand
that
if
you
know,
as
the
city
is
growing
and
we're
trying
to
fulfill
new
demands
as
it
relates
to
sports,
or
you
know,
recreation
or
whatever
the
tie
our
hands
to
this
degree,
you
know
I
think
is
a
little
bit
excessive.
I
mean
if
we
want
to.
You,
know,
try
and
come
up
with
a
better
sentence
that
speaks
to
modifications,
alterations
or
improvements
of
said
Park.
D
You
know
in
the
limitations
that
we
can
go,
then
I
think
that
that
you
know
I
think
that
that
this
sentence
can
be
reworked
to
a
degree.
I
mean
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
an
issue
with
the
four
members
in
the
three
public
hearings,
but
I
don't
want
to
have
to
do
that
to
put
in
a
sidewalk
that
we
think
needs
to
go
in.
You
know
what
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
do
that
to
to
make
some
minor
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
minor
improvement
to
a
park.
D
You
know
when
the
Board
of
Commissioners
were
elected
by
the
community
at
large
to
make
decisions
like
that,
but
I
understand
both
sides.
I
know
where
the
Charter
Review
Committee
is
coming
from,
and
I
think
that
the
majority
of
of
paragraph
J
is
addressed.
You
know
by
the
need
to
go
out
to
referendum
in
terms
of
a
sale
or
things
like
that,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
you
know
we
should
have
our
hands
tied
to
this
degree
for
some
type
of
modification
or
improvement
to
a
city
park.
You.
H
D
F
Not
sure
if
we're
replacing
the
playground
in
an
existing
section,
if
that's
taking
away
from
green
space,
because
there's
already
that
playground
there
I'm
pretty
opposed
to
eliminate
in
green
space,
so
I
I
know
we
were
elected
to
make
these
decisions.
But
I
also
feel
that
we
need
to
respect
our
our
residents
and
hear
what
they
have
to
say
and
if
they're
opposed
to
eliminating
green
space,
we
should
give
them
that
opportunity.
F
F
D
I,
wouldn't
even
propose
taking
that
language
out.
I
would
just
build
on
this
sentence
to
the
degree
that
it
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
flexibility.
For
you
know,
minor
improvements,
I
mean
you
put
a
percentage
in
terms
of
the
calculation
of
the
space.
I
mean.
Do
you,
you
know,
add
some
language
that
says
that
we
can.
You
know
within
our
limitations
and
powers
we
can
I'd
lean
on
the
city
attorney
personal.
You
know,
yeah.
K
I
definitely
think
that
the
use
of
a
percentage-
and
maybe
it
be
a
square
footage
percentage
of
the
square
footage
of
a
park,
or
example.
You
know
10%
of
the
square
footage
of
a
park
you
know,
would
be
considered
a
minor
change
or
50%.
You
guys
picked
the
number,
but
we
could
add,
suggest
the
sentence
to
be
at
it.
Now.
Keep
in
mind
all
these
suggestions,
you're
making
this
commission
can
say
the
Charter
Review
Commission
can
say:
we've
heard
you,
we
don't
agree,
we're
gonna,
keep
it
exactly
the
way
that
that
we've
suggested
it.
K
I
M
Thank
You
mayor,
yeah,
I.
Don't
think
anybody
wants
to
eliminate
green
space
or
sell
any
of
our
parks
but
to
not
be
able
to
put
in
a
sidewalk
or
something
or
playground
just
to
maximize
the
enjoyment
of
the
park.
I
think
might
be
a
little
restrictive
when
I
first
read
this
I
interpreted
it
just
as
selling
places
like
rotary
field
at
Riverside,
Field
or
something
like
that
and
if
that
were
to
occur,
to
eliminate
those
or
to
sell
those,
then
absolutely
I
think
we
need
to
maximize
public
input.
M
I'd
be
fine
with
three
meetings:
I'd
even
want
something
to
be
mailed
but
I.
Think
really.
The
answer
here
is
just
cleaning
up
the
language
of
this,
because
I
really
really
don't
want
our
parks
to
be
touched,
but
at
the
same
time
as
our
city
grows,
if
we
need
to
be
able
to
put
in
a
sidewalk
or
a
different
type
of
path,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
that.
M
You
know
without
three
public
meetings
and
months
of
hoops
to
jump
through
so
I
think
we
can
take
a
look
at
this
language
and
maybe
a
hammer
it
out
a
little
bit
better,
maybe
include
a
sentence
exempting
it
if
it's,
if
it's
a
specific
improvement
of
the
park,
if
it's
like
an
infrastructural
improvement
of
the
park,
I,
don't
want
to
get
too
bogged
down.
Thinking
about
the
Kreg,
Park
boat,
ramp,
issue
and
stuff
like
that,
because
that's
maybe
this
was
me
in
there
to
address
that.
M
K
Think
that
you
would
want
to
get
into
the
specific
name
what
we
can
do
with
it,
because
there's
going
to
be
a
situation
where
there's
something
that
we
didn't
include.
So
how
about
and
I'm
suggesting,
adding
right,
after
the
words
elimination
of
green
space,
of
more
than
blank
percentage
of
the
square
footage
of
the.
K
D
I
think
that
it,
you
know,
we
should
brainstorm
that
calculation
a
little
bit
more,
but
we
have
other
aspects
of
our
code
that
utilize
the
same
type
of
percentage
as
a
relates
like
staff
level.
You
know
of
approval
like
the
hospital
is
a
good
example
of
that,
so
I
mean
it's
certainly
a
mechanism
that
we
already
use
within
our
code.
It's
just
a
matter
of
finding
the
balance
of
you
know
what
our
intentions
are.
I
It's
difficult
to
just
say
a
percentage
I
mean
up
top
I
would
say:
maybe
5%
would
be
an
avenue
to
start
at,
but
really
evaluate
what
our
total
park
spaces
and
a
park
a
better
picture.
What
that
looks
like,
maybe
it's
a
few
percent
I,
don't
really
know
what
it
is:
I'm,
not
against
the
public
meetings.
I.
Think
three
is
too
many,
but
that's
fine.
If
the
rest
of
the
board
wants
to
have
three
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to.
A
I
K
L
D
I
mean
look
at
it
like
this
way
for
a
minute.
You
could
rezone
a
property
and/or,
make
application
to
rezone
a
property
which
could
be
a
lot
bigger
than
this,
and
do
it
in
three
meeting
so
I
mean
when
you
look
at
it
like
that,
you
know
if
you,
if
you're
trying
to
have
some
parking
square
footage
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
you
wouldn't
want
it
to
be
more
of
a
strenuous
process
than
it
would.
If
you
wanted
to
rezone
a
piece
of
property
from
its
least
and
thins
have
used
its
most
offensive
use.
D
I
I
still,
the
elimination
of
green
space
I
still
have
some
issues
with
that.
Because
again
it
goes
back
to
the
I'm
good,
with
the
leaving
of
the
way
to
just
three
public
meetings
based
on
the
discussions
we
had,
but
the
elimination
of
green
space
I
think
is
still
very
restrictive,
so
I
think
having
some
type
of
percentage
in
there
is
key
for
the
discussion
again
sidewalks
and
if
we,
the
board
too
feels
the
best
way
to
go
to
have
a
new
sidewalk
or
water,
fountain
or
playground
is
to
have
a
public
meeting
about
it.
I
D
A
A
K
Only
the
only
thing,
that's
more
limiting
to
you
than
what
you're
doing
right
now
is.
It
requires
four
commissioners
to
vote
on
it
if
you
really
get
it
down
to
its
finest
thing.
You're
gonna
hear
these
things.
Anyhow,
you're
gonna
make
the
decision.
Anyhow,
it's
just
a
question
of
how
many
public
earrings
and
if
you
have
one
outside
of
the
Commission,
you
have
your
normal
two
public
hearings
here,
you're
still
making
the
same
decision.
The
only
limiting
factor
here
is
for
members.
H
A
K
A
D
H
I
K
A
N
N
H
N
N
Computers
weren't
big
deal
in
the
seventies
and
eighties.
Any
of
you
now
can
go
home
and
pull
up
anything
you
want
to
know
about,
including
the
comp
plan
and
everything
else.
So
we
thought
we'd
make
it
easier.
It
doesn't
hurt
anything,
it's
a
duplication
of
what
you
have
access
to
you
now
just
another
place
to
find
no.
A
D
You
know
for
years,
residents
have
been
told
that
the
alleyways
running
behind
their
house
is
their
responsibility
as
it
relates
to
tree
trimming,
and
you
know
overgrowth
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
myself
have
told
that
to
people
many
many
times
as
they
have
called
me
over
the
years
to
ask
if
we
can
get
a
city
crew
down
there
to
clean
the
alleyway,
so
I
support
it.
I
There's
some
I
think
there's
some
some
good
language
in
here
about
the
dredge
and
about
the
river,
and
one
thing
that
I
think
that
it's
easy
to
forget
about
is
the
bayous,
because
this
addresses
the
river
and
the
bayous.
What's
the
safe
depths
and
the
bodies,
because
the
bayous
have
had
I,
don't
know,
but
the
years
of
silt
built
up
in
them.
I
If
you
were
to
go
in
the
Bayou
now,
you'd
probably
sing
past
your
ankles,
maybe
further
just
the
muck
and
silt
that's
been
run
off
in
the
roads
for
many
many
years
so
I
know
the
strongest.
Emphasis
has
been
on
the
river
because
that's
the
the
moneymaker
for
the
town
and
making
sure
that
revival
as
a
town
with
businesses
and
so
on,
but
I
think
it's
nice
at
the
Charter
Review
Committee
brought
into
the
bayous
as
a
part
to
not
forget
about
in
this
area.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
A
You
I
also
like
to
come
in
on
balance.
Well,
you
know
the
the
Inka
River
is
so
important
to
our
guitar
purse
pranks
to
our
local
economy,
and
they
may
agree
with
we're
all
that,
but
we
also
have
so
many
other
roads
under
the
jurisdiction
of
Pinellas
County
in
the
state
and
I
haven't
seen
anything
that
and
the
you
know,
transportation
of
the
people
is
so
important
as
well,
and
that
should
be
and
that's
on
every
day's.
This
is
the
daily
application
and
responsibilities
of
the
of
us
from
Board
of
Commissioners
and
the
city
manager.
N
Back
to
when
excuse
me,
do
you
think
back
to
when
we
we
dredged
to
the
last
time
it
was
very
specific
and
bid
on
the
main
waterways,
but
all
those
waterways
and
cuts
that
led
to
the
residents
homes
were
left
out
because
I
was
told
it
was
too
expensive,
but
so
are
the
taxes
when
you
live
on
the
water?
Okay.
So
if
you
can
achar
me
for
living
on
and
I'm
saying
this
in
the
first-person
case,
okay,
this
is
conversations.
N
N
Between
Riverside
and
anyway,
we
put
the
city,
put
a
drain,
ditch
from
from
Riverside
into
that
canal.
I
just
happened
because
my
brother
lives
across
canal
from
there
I
can
see
the
buildup
of
silt
going
in
there,
but
when
the
contract
was
Len
out,
the
contract
said
you're
gonna
clean
ten
feet
down
the
middle.
You
still
didn't
get
the
public
accepted
high
tide
to
the
water,
we're
just
trying
to
say
treat
everybody
the
same
way.
N
You
guys
didn't
make
that
decision
with
a
lot
of
discussion,
because
you
you
don't
spend
that
amount
of
time
here
you
don't
get
all
the
information
in
a
timely
manner,
sometimes,
but
the
point
of
that
whole
thing
is
if
you're
gonna
dredge
dredge
the
cuts,
so
the
people
who
pay
the
taxes
and
make
up
sixty-two
million
dollars
the
portion
of
it.
It's
the
same
thing
it's
just
like.
N
Why
did
we
cut
the
trees
in
the
road
but
not
in
the
alleys,
but
the
city
maintains
a
alley,
but
no
come
on
logic.
Does
that
make
any
sense
whatsoever
that
you
drain
down
the
middle
but
not
to
the
you
dredge
down
the
middle,
but
not
to
through
the
cuts
to
us?
It
did
not,
and
that's
why
it's
in
here,
okay,
if
it's
it's
not
palatable
to
you,
because
it
may
cost
you
much
and
all
that
there's
an
anything
you
tell
us
tonight.
N
We
look
forward
to
talking
about
and
and
just
because
we
wrote
this
and
said
this
is
what
we
want
doesn't
mean.
We
won't
agree
with
you
if
you
want
to
make
changes
to
it.
The
last
thing
I
would
personally
like
to
see
is
to
send
something
to
the
public
that
says
the
Charter
committee
wants
us,
but
to
city
offices
that
doesn't
show
any
unification
whatsoever
and
that's
not
what
we're
after
we're,
not
after
leaving
the
city.
So
that's
why
it
wasn't
a
total
dredge.
It
didn't
give
access
to
the.
H
M
A
M
Section
I
was
actually
something
when
I
first
spoke
to
the
Charter
Committee
I
thought
would
be
best
suited
as
a
separate
section,
but
I
really
liked
that
they
did
kind
of
make
it
part
of
the
one-stop
shop
for
Commissioner
powers.
I
think
it
fits
in
there.
Just
fine
one
thing
that
I
did
want
to
bring
up
was
just
for
the
sake
of
keeping
it
relevant.
I
mean
we're
still
waiting
on
the
dredging
to
begin
work.
M
I
mean
it's
been
since
1999
I
think
it's
important
that
if
you
look
at
Oh
number
three
where
it
says
the
city
shall
maintain
a
navigation
chart
of
the
local
channels
and
cuts
and
a
bathymetric
survey
shall
be
done
at
least
every
five
years
of
those
navigational
areas.
Beginning
2021
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
we
accompanied
those
surveys
and
put
in
there
that
they're
gonna
be
presented
at
a
public
meeting
and
also
after
the
public
presentation.
M
We
are
gonna,
send
just
a
letter
signed
by
the
Commission
to
the
county,
just
to
give
them
an
update
and
give
them
a
heads-up.
So,
basically,
what
I'm
asking
is
for
number
three
once
we
do
complete
that
survey
or
get
that
survey
done
every
five
years.
We
also
have
it
included
in
a
regular
session.
We
have
it
presented
to
us.
We
get
all
the
updates.
We
send
all
the
updates
to
the
county
and
a
written
letter
saying
hey
just
to
keep
it.
You
know
on
your
table.
This
dredging
is
a
maintenance.
N
N
F
I
I
M
Absolutely
I
think
maybe
the
wording
could
even
just
go
so
far
as
to
say
you
know,
whatever
analysis
and
discussion
comes
from
that
public
meeting
or
whatever
information
is
on
that
survey,
we
send
it
out
to
all
of
our
representatives
at
the
county,
state
and
federal
level,
and
that
way
it's
just
kind
of
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
Fred
Howard
Park
letter
we
sent
out.
We
just
all
sign
it.
H
M
M
L,
so
it's
on
page
seven
at
the
bottom
I
support
it,
but
I
did
just
want
to
get
some
board
discussion
on
it
because
recently,
I
think
we
had
a
conversation
about
this
within
the
past
couple
months
and
we
did
not
have
consensus
from
the
board
to
do
this.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
was
aware
that
this
was
in
here
and
I.
Absolutely
support
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
the
city
manager
and
to
our
residents
and
the
name
of
transparency.
But
I
did
just
want
to
bring
that
to
you.
M
And
and
just
for
those
in
the
audience
or
watching
at
home,
that's
that's
to
evaluate
the
performance
of
charter
officers.
During
the
month
of
August
of
each
fiscal
year,
beginning
2020,
which
time
city
commissioners
shall
submit
individual
written
evaluations
based
on
a
standard
format
adopted
by
the
City
Commission
to
the
Director
of
Human
Resources.
H
N
And
what
we
tried
to
add
to
this
was
your
human
resources
department.
Probably
in
the
private
sector.
I'll
tell
you
that
the
human
resources
department
is
the
one
who
sends
the
forms
out
to
each
one
of
you
to
do
your
evaluation
and
then
they're
tracked
that
way,
so
that
the
public
can,
under
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act,
ask
for
the
evaluations
done
by
each
one
of
you
to
the
city,
commissioner,
to
the
city
manager.
So.
N
A
But
I
think
your
valuation,
it's
a
tool
that
you
can
help
the
employee
to
you
to
do
better
and
you're
discussing
with
the
employee.
It's
like
a
personal
contract.
If
you
will,
what
has
been
you
know
his
performance
or
any
of
what
you
expect
and
the
employee
to
do
something
that
I
do
every
year
with
mr.
Lucas
and
I
think
is
very
successful
with
me,
because
you
know
it's
exactly
what
I
want
if.
N
If
you
think
about
the
results
for
two
reasons,
okay,
the
same
results
will
tell
you
whether
you
want
to
keep
that
person
or
not,
because
once
you
evaluate
him
in
year,
one
and
you
say
I,
really
like
what
you're
doing
except
I'd
like
you
to
get
out
in
the
public
more
often
well
in
year,
two,
if
he's
still
not
getting
out
in
the
public,
guess
what
there's
a
notch
on
this
side.
It's
it's
a!
If
you're
out
in
the
private
sector.
N
F
C
N
I
appreciate
that
and
that
feedback
is
very
important
to
him.
It's
just
just
an
evaluation
in
writing.
Is
him
in
the
public,
a
better
opportunity
of
you
to
understand.
What's
going
on
in
the
city,
I
had
many
of
mine
tell
you
what,
but
my
boss
told
me
Jim
I,
don't
think
you're
doing
this
right.
It
was
right,
it's
the
next
year,
okay
and
and
that's
what
that's,
what
evaluations
do
for
everybody,
not
just
for
the
city
manager,
we're
you're
evaluated
by
the
public
if
they
think
you're
doing
a
good
job,
they
bring
you
back,
yeah.
H
A
N
I
H
I
The
minimum
signatures
and
I
know
the
City
Clerk's
office
provided
an
example
of
Clearwater
Dunedin
old's,
barn
safety,
harbor
and
I
want
to
read
off
what
those
are
clear.
Water
requires
250
petition
cards,
Dunedin
requires
150
petition
cards,
Cole's
Mar
requires
a
150
petition
cards.
Safety
Harbor
requires
a
hundred
petition
cards
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
really
to
increase
this
to
equivalent
to
other
local
communities.
I
think
the
balance
is
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
what
the
most
appropriate
signature
card
requirement
is.
25
is
pretty
easy.
I
You
could
probably
do
that
in
afternoon.
If
you
wanted
to
but
100
150
50,
even
you
gets
a
little
more
effort
into
it
and,
as
we
all
know,
there's
a
lot
of
effort
that
we
had
to
put
into
this
board
from
studying,
committing
and
other
aspects
to
really
prepare
and
I.
Think
it
would
I'm
not
saying
it's
something
that
would
bet
someone
entirely,
but
I
think
it
would
really.
It
really
shows
that
someone's
looking
to
earn
this
position
to
be
elected,
to
be
able
to
run
for
commissioner
or
mayor.
A
If
we
increase
that
to
a
hundred,
that's
another
20
minutes
of
work,
he
go
to
some
restaurants.
They
get.
They
need
the
rest
of
the
signatures
that
does
not
make
the
applicant
any
more
qualified
that
all
been
to
me
is
what
makes
the
person
to
be
qualified.
You
look
at
his
potentials
and
it's
up
to
the
after
the
you
know
to
the
voters
to
select
which
was
the
right
person,
I,
think
the
difference
of
50
signatures
or
a
hundred
signatures.
It's
not
going
to
make
it
unless
you
get
$5,000
or
something
like
this.
A
D
Actually
had
a
note
on
this
as
well,
something
that's
been
on
my
mind
for
several
years.
I
think
that
we
should
also
increase
it.
I
understand
that,
where
you're
coming
from
obviously
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Khare
on
this
and
I,
think
that
you
know
in
a
lot
of
cases
as
we
discuss
things
up
here,
we
look
to
you
know
not
necessarily
recreate
the
wheel
and
look
to
our
other
community
partners
to
see
kind
of
what
they're
doing
as
well,
which
the
Commissioner
has
just
given
you.
D
Some
statistics
on
that
and
I
actually
do
think
that
by
as
diminutives
it
may
sound
to
go
from
25
to
50
or
even
75
I
think
it
does
make
a
difference
and
I
think
it
makes
a
difference
all
the
way
up
until
you
know
the
day
of
qualifying
so
I
I've
been
wanting
to
increase
this
for
some
time
now
and
I've.
Never
really
understood
why
we
haven't
so
I
would
support
an
increase
at
a
minimum
to
50,
and
you
know
if
the
board
wanted
to
go
to
75
or
100.
F
I
attended
one
of
the
charter
meetings.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
agreed
on,
increasing
it
as
well.
I,
don't
feel
like
someone
who's
a
candidate
can
just
go
to
a
restaurant,
get
25
signatures
and
be
done.
I
think
you
do
need
to
work
at
it
and
show
that
your
intent
is
there
to
serve
the
city
and
by
having
7500
signatures.
M
I,
don't
think
we
should
increase
it.
I
just
don't
know
why
we
to
make
it
more
difficult,
at
least
in
that
startup
process.
I,
don't
think
that's
an
issue
right
now.
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
huge
amount
of
people
just
throwing
their
names
on
the
ballot
after
they
get
25
cards
again.
I
feel,
like
you
know,
the
public
decides
who's
qualified
when
they
vote
for
them.
I.
Just
don't
think
that
this
would
add
anything
to
our
system.
M
I,
just
think
it
would
be
a
bigger
hassle,
like
you
said,
maybe
a
couple
hours
I
mean
you
can
stand
outside
public
and
just
ask
for
75
I
mean
I
I.
Think,
however
high
you
want
to
go,
I
think
it
would
be
a
mistake.
I,
don't
know
why
we
increase
it.
I,
don't
think
it's
screening
any
issues
right
now,
the
way
it
is
and
I
don't
think
we
should
make
it
harder
for
people
to
run
for
office.
F
H
F
A
D
A
H
D
A
D
A
N
A
H
A
D
You
again
something
that's
been
discussed
for
a
long
time
and
I
don't
object
to
the
internal
auditor
or
what
they
perform.
I'll
just
make
a
few
observations
as
it
relates
to
going
in-house
with
this
person.
Currently,
our
budget
is
for
$40,000
a
year
for
this
service
and
just
looking
at
the
list
of
duties,
including
but
not
limited
to
the
list
of
duties.
D
With
the
appropriate
license,
or
with
the
right
background,
I
mean,
for
example,
when
we
go
out
when
we
go
to
whatever
firm
that
we
hire
now.
That's
a
public
accounting
firm,
we're
utilizing
the
expertise,
expertise
of
whatever
team
that
they
assigned
within
their
company
to
handle
such
services
and
I.
Just
don't
think
that
one
person
in
City
Hall
is
going
to
be
able
to
handle
all
this
for
the
allotted
budgetary
amount
and
offer
the
same
expertise,
as
you
know,
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
a
national
firm.
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
you
mentioned
that
40,000
is
not
enough
for
the
year
that
we
already
have
budget
and
I
agree
with
that.
Even
$60,000
not
going
to
be
enough
because
you
still
have
to
pay
for
the
person's
benefits,
probably
another
20,000
for
that,
so
probably
80,000
will
be
what
we
need
to
do
budget
for
that.
So
we
need
to
double
that
and
I
am
concerned
by
the
expertise
that
the
person
is
going
to
have,
because
just
like
a
a
city
engineer
now
they
are
so
specialized.
A
I
That
you're
doing
something
wrong.
It's
just
saying:
there's
a
better
way:
that's
doing
this
under
the
control
right,
so
there's
a
control,
it's
written,
that
they
would
come
with
and
say.
Well,
this
is
where
to
require
if
it's
from
the
procurement
department,
if
it's
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Department
or
the
permitting
department,
they
may
say
you
know,
you're
doing
it
this
way.
I
But
this
is
best
practices
and
we
have
a
small
group
there's
a
two
people
that
are
full-time,
but
then
we
have
an
outside
group
that
comes
in,
but
we're
three
billion
dollar
company
right
with
that
I've
had
questions
where
I've
asked
the
city
manager
and
he
doesn't
feel
comfortable
answering
because
one
example
was
I,
wanted
the
more
clarity
on
the
city,
attorneys
fees
that
were
had
on
our
backup.
He
tried
to
get
some
summaries
and
he
wouldn't
allocate
time
because
it
was
against
another
Charter
Committee.
I
Another
Charter
official
and
I
thought
that
was
ridiculous,
but
I
had
I
mean
it's.
It
was
his
choice
and
his
decision
saying
look
I,
don't
feel
comfortable
doing
this.
That
would
be
a
good
example
of
how
we
can
use
an
internal
auditor
to
say
help
me
understand
these
fees,
so
let's
go
through
them
for
the
year,
because
right
now,
I
have
nobody
in
the
city.
I
could
go
to
other
than
the
city
attorney
himself
and
say:
let's
these
correct.
That's
just
one
example
of
what
I've
run
into
this
past
year.
I
I
Looking
over
your
shoulder
as
an
employee
to
say,
we're
checking
your
work
here
and
we're
gonna
report
back
to
the
commission.
So
I
don't
think
it's
a
bad
thing
to
have
a
full-time
employee.
Yes,
they're
gonna
have
to
make
a
lot
more
$40,000
a
year
that
was
discussed.
That
would
need
to
be
found
somewhere
in
the
budget,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
makes
sense
from
my
experience
to
have
an
internal
auditor
within
the
committee
and
just
to
serve
directly
to
the
board
of
Commission
as
well.
Yeah.
A
H
A
I
That
I
mean
a
dual
responsibility,
makes
sense.
There's
a
gray
area,
though,
when
you're
getting
a
dual
responsibility,
because
the
internal
auditor
reports
directly
to
the
board
of
commission
and
then
what
other
elements
would
that
person
then
report
to
the
city
manager
for
the
other
part
of
the
duty,
I
mean
you
bring
up
a
great
point
with
that
I
think
we
could
get
creative
as
a
board
on
what
this
position
potentially
could
look
like,
but
thanks
for
bringing
it
up,
yeah.
A
The
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
there
will
be
times
where
the
auditor
is
not
going
to
have
the
expertise
to
actually
to
perform.
Some
of
the
do
is
it's
going
to
need
to
get
a
contractor
or
some
kind
of
a
a
vendor
or
to
get
some
help
and
because
the
way
it
is
now
technology
and
also
perhaps
if
we
can
use
it
as
a
dual
responsibility
position,
so
we
still
get
is
done,
but
if
we
are,
if
we
know
how
many
hours
do
we
spend
now,
we
can
actually
make
a
decision
on
that
I.
A
I
Want
to
share
one
more
thing:
there's
again:
I
mention,
there's
two
full-time
people
when
it
covers
a
game
it
from
contracting
in
the
procurement
side,
to
the
payer
side,
to
HR
to
all
different
things,
accounting
practices
and
everything
else.
Yeah
I've
questioned
that
with
the
employer
and
they
came
in,
they
really
got
to
know
the
whole
business
and
the
point
of
the
internal
auditor.
Is
they
actually
get
in
and
get
to
know
the
business
and
they
actually
have
the
study,
the
bat
aspect
of
it?
I
They
get
to
know
the
procurement
department,
and
then
they
go
through
best
practices
to
say
these
are
the
standards
of
what
procurement
would
do.
This
is
the
standards
of
what
HR
should
be
doing.
Is
each
head
of
department,
doing
reviews
with
their
employees
etc,
and
they
would
go
through
that
to
make
sure
that's
done
on
the
annual
basis,
so
I
was
I
had
sensitivity
to
that
when
they
would
come
in,
and
this
is
only
a
personal
experience.
I
I'm
talking
on
that
you're
coming
into
my
department,
I
know
my
department
I
know
my
my
trade
you're,
not
a
professional,
and
this
stop
telling
me
what
to
do,
but
they
really
did
do
the
research
and
they
found
out
like
exactly
what
we
should
be
doing
on
that
standpoint.
So
it's
a
it's
easier,
just
to
say,
blankets,
a
blanket
statement,
cuz,
that's
how
I
felt
initially,
but
when
I
saw
actually
work.
I
was
pretty
surprised.
A
And
I
agree
that
the
auditors
very
important
position,
but
we
don't
know
actually
how
much
workload
the
person
is
going
to
have.
Perhaps,
as
I
said
my
suggestion
is
they
have
a
dual
responsibility.
Marketing
position
is
very
important
that
we
don't
have
if
we
can
combine
those
two
responsibilities.
Every
party
directly
to
the
Commission
I
think
it's
something
that
I
was
supported.
F
To
agree
with
the
vice
mayor,
because
I
feel,
like
all
your
responsibilities
are
I,
think
would
you
have
to
be
paying
$100,000
to
somebody
and
we
have
the
power
to
select
our
internal
auditor
or
the
company
that
those
are
audits.
We
selected
this
last
one,
so
we
do
have
power
and
we
can
communicate
with
them.
So
it's
not
completely
out
of
our
hands.
H
F
H
F
F
We
can
give
some
direction.
We
can
call
I
mean
they're
they're
open
to
discussion,
so
having
an
internal
auditor
that
that's
maybe
reports
to
our
city
manager
that
we
might
not
have
that
easy.
A
discussion
with
I'm
not
sure,
is
a
benefit,
and
we
definitely
would
have
to
probably
pay
close
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
somebody
with
this
expertise
that
works
and
as
a
full-time,
employee.
So
I
agree
with
you.
Johnson
can't.
I
I
So
the
way
it
works
today
with
the
internal
auditor
or
the
external
internal
auditor,
third-party
internal
auditor
is
the
board
tax
that
passed
them
with
one
audit
a
year
to
look
at
if
it's
a
full-time
position,
they'd
be
doing
a
lot
more
than
just
one
task,
so,
for
instance,
I
reached
out
to
the
internal
auditors
to
say:
I
have
some
questions
about
some
things
or
like
that.
Those
were
valid
questions,
but
unless
you
give
us
additional
budget,
we're
not
gonna.
I
F
We
have
an
internal
auditor
how
quickly
they
can
audit
everything.
They
may
only
be
able
to
audits
one
area
or
when
departments
every
six
months
I
mean
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
you
know
how
that's
done
with
external
auditor
that
we
have,
but
if
we
have
an
internal
auditor
what's
to
say
that
he
can
do
on
it's
any
faster.
So
you
know
it's
hard
to
know.
A
Well,
there
are
some
other
things
that
a
full-time
or
a
an
auditor
that
is
working
directly
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
will
be
beneficial
is
now
we
have
an
auditor
that
it's
it's
a
third
party.
You
know.
Let's
say
he
finds
some
deficiencies
and
it
reports
it
back
on
the
report.
We
don't
know
if
those
deficiencies
that
actually
being
corrected
and
then
being
done
properly
and
see
what
those
results
will
be
after
this
Corrections
are
done.
So
there
are
some
benefits
to
have
an
auditor
that
is
reporting
directly
to
the
BOC.
A
You
have
more
control,
but
the
question
that
I
have
instilled
in
my
mind,
is:
is
that
enough
workload
for
a
person
to
to
be
as
as
a
full-time
auditor,
because
now
we
pay
$40,000
versus
to
100?
You
know
if
we,
if
we
find
with
another
responsibility
for
the
person,
and
that
would
make
more
sense,
economically
more
sense
for
the
person
to
be.
A
M
F
A
K
D
And
my
only
observation
is:
is
that
you
know
you
have
a
charter
official
as
the
internal
auditor
or
the
two
in
an
effort
to
blend
that
position.
I,
don't
see
how,
unless
the
other
position
that
you
were
gonna
prescribe
to
this
person
is
also
as
a
charter
official.
You
know
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
say:
okay,
I'm
wearing
this
hat,
you
work
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
Wearing
this
that
you
worked
for
the.
A
N
I'm
listening
all
of
this,
you
have
a
charter
official
in
your
charter
right
now.
Okay,
this
isn't
a
new
position.
It
was
modified
previously
by
interesting.
If
you
ever
asked
for
that
information,
where
you
can
read
the
letter
that
was
written
by
mr.
iacovone
at
the
request
of
someone
I,
don't
know
who
I
haven't
been
able
to
run
that
down
yet
which
I
personally
don't
agree
with
that
when
anybody
writes
a
letter
to
the
city,
they
should
be
saying
this
is
my
response
to
Mayor
Alice's
question
so
that
the
public
knows
who
that
is.
N
But
besides
that
you
have
a
charter
official
in
your
in
your
charter.
Now
you
have
that
auditors
in
there
don't
be
fooled
by
that,
and
in
that
same
letter
mr.
iacovone
said
well,
you
don't
really
need
a
full-time,
because
the
charter
doesn't
say:
shall
you
shall
have
a
full-time
charter?
Official,
okay
I
can
tell
you
that
we
were
furnished
as
a
committee
or
five
audits
done
by
your
outside
sources.
N
Okay,
none
of
you
can
tell
me
and
I
can't
answer
because
I
don't
know
what
that
answer
is
because
there's
nothing
written
down.
Did
they
change
that
bad
habit?
Secondly,
a
charter
official
doesn't
just
look
at
money.
He
looks
at
time
and
motion
studies.
Okay.
What
when
you
go
into
a
department
to
do
an
audit,
Commissioner
Khare
is
correct.
You
just
don't
go
in
there.
Look
at
the
dollars
you
go
in
there
and
look
at
the
operation
to
see.
Are
you
running
your
operation
right?
N
N
N
All
you
have
to
do
is
designate
that
party
that
you
hire
to
do
at
that
company,
one
person's
name
and
then
that's
the
Charter
official
for
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
so
you're
hiring
that
one
person
to
do
it,
because
that's
what
the
Charter
says
and
that's
what
the
legal
department
said
you
had
to
do
if
you
think
that
you're
getting
$40,000
worth
because
they
did
one
audit
on
the
water
department
no
come
on,
you
guys
are
business
people
sitting
here.
You.
H
N
What
it
takes
to
keep
a
business
running,
you
don't
keep
a
business
running
just
looking
at
ten
people
over
here.
You
need
to
look
at
the
whole
city,
that's
what
our
envision
was
when
we
went
after
this
hey
this
is
near
and
dear,
and
it
was
near
and
dear
to
everybody
on
the
committee
as
well,
because
it's
the
most
important
thing
you
can
do
for
the
public
is
to
make
sure
that
you're
doing
your
jobs
right.
Okay
and
you
talked
about
40,000
versus
a
hundred
thousand-
oh,
my
goodness,
and
not
terrible.
N
You
got
a
sixty
two
million
dollar
budget.
You
can't
find
enough
money
to
hire
an
auditor
come
on
guys,
do
what
you
want
to
do
with
this,
but
it's
insulting
when
you
say
things
like
that,
because
this
is
a
big
business.
This
isn't
this
isn't
a
mom-and-pop
business.
This
is
a
city
you're
running,
run
it
like
a
city
get
the
top
people
you
can
get
in
here
and
run
it
that
way
and
I
know
you
have
to
save
money
too,
but
you're
saving
it
because
you're
not
cleaning
the
alleyways
bad
eye.
I'm.
N
Sorry
to
say
it
that
way,
but
it's
very
important
that
the
public
is
assured
that
everything
you
do
especially
financially,
and
that
includes
your
labor
force.
Are
they
working
eight
hours
a
day?
Auditors
look
at
that.
Do
they
come
in
on
time?
Do
they
make
their
meetings
on
time?
We
experienced
a
incident
that
didn't
happen.
N
Not
only
didn't
come
on
time
forgot
to
bring
the
paperwork
with
to
us,
so
those
things
don't
happen
unless
they're
allowed
to
happen,
whoever
you
want
to
blame
for
that
I
don't
know,
but
it's
in
it's
in
the
Charter
right
now.
What
we
did
was
added
the
job
descriptions
because
Minister
iacovone
said
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
you
could
go
the
other
way.
So
you
want
it
out.
You
got
to
tell
the
public
mister.
A
A
N
A
A
A
K
So
your
suggestion,
maybe
or
an
option
would
be
first
of
all,
I've
heard
so
far.
Three
of
you
say
no
full-time
employee
that'd
be
an
outside
source.
Maybe
the
recommendation
would
be
to
go
back
to
be
an
employee
and
then
have
the
city
manager
or
actually
you
would
because
it'd
be
a
charter
official
determine
you
know
how
many
hours
a
week
that
particular
individual
it
would
work,
and
would
you
be
able
to
find
someone
with
the.
K
A
F
I
understand
what
you're
saying
mr.
courtly
honest:
I:
don't
think
this
can
be
done
as
a
part-time,
employee
I
think
it
would
need
a
full-time
employee.
My
question
was
that
we
have
to
pay
this
employee
a
lot
more
money
and
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
an
audit
of
every
department.
You
know
within
a
month
either
so
that
you
know
it's
not
like.
We
would
beginning
daily
updates
of
all
departments.
So
it
would
take
a
time
a
lot
of
time
to
get
reports
back
even
from
this
person.
F
But
it
won't
be.
You
know
that
much
quicker,
but
they
will
have
a
better
understanding,
so
I'm
really
feeling
that
it
would
be
okay
to
have
an
internal
auditor,
but
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
we
can
hire
someone
and
we're
having
as
a
city
a
hard
time
hiring
people
that
stay.
For
reasons
of
other,
their
skill
set
is:
is
higher
and
they've
been
recruited
by
other
towns
or
personal
or
private
businesses.
F
F
I've
confused
everybody
because
I
was
against
it
at
first,
but
you
know
having
and
I,
don't
think
it
can
be
a
part-time
position
because
you
know
the
skill
set
here
is
completely
different
from
a
marketing
person.
So
you'd
have
to
have
two
part-time
employees,
but
I,
don't
think
a
part-time
employee
could
do
this
job
I
think
it
would
have
to
be
a
full-time
employee.
A
A
F
A
F
F
F
A
M
I
D
A
D
A
D
That's
that's
the
question
yeah
is
that
a
year's
full
I
mean
instead
of
four
years
worth
the
work
and
then
maintaining
that
the
open
lines
of
communication
between
the
Board
of
Commissioners
on
a
daily
weekly
basis.
You
know
is
that
something
that
we're
all
gonna
do
in
order
to
keep
this
person
occupied
with
what
we
want
him
to
look
into
and
then
does
it
take
a
consensus
among
the
board.
You
have
direction.
D
Where
is
that
hey
I
pick
up
the
phone
and
I
say:
hey
I
want
you
to
look
at
neckline
Z
and
they
do
it.
You
know
what
I
mean,
though
you
know
I,
think
it's
unfortunate
that
we
don't
have
time
to
come
back
to
certain
things
that
we're
building
on
and
elaborating
on,
and
you
know
having
productive
discussions
about,
because
I
think
in
some
in
some
cases
you
do
need
to
step
back,
and
you
know
digest
some
things
that
were
said
and
continue
to
you
know.
F
I
Know
I
would
support
a
3/4
times,
so
that
would
be
maybe
four
days
a
week
if
that
was
and
I
want
to
point
out.
Something,
too
is
that
you
have
a
lot
of
how
would
I
say
individuals
that
retire
that
moved
down
from
northern
cities.
Usually
a
lot
of
people
are
involved
with
large
corporations.
It
could
be.
I
The
husband
is
driving
the
wife,
nuts
and
the
wife's
like
you,
gotta,
go
to
the
house
and
find
a
job
or
the
wife's
driving
the
husband's
nuts
and
you
got
to
get
out
and
find
a
job
somewhere
right,
and
they
have
expertise
and
they've
done
it.
Many
many
years
and
a
larger
corporation
that
they're
just
looking
for
a
maybe
3/4
time,
not
a
job.
That's
five
days
a
week
over
six
days
a
week,
sometimes
at
Derby
requirements,
but
it
could
be
a
four
day
a
week.
Job
and
so
I
wouldn't
be
against
something.
I
That's
a
four
day
week,
job
or
three
and
a
half
day
a
week
job
because
it
opens
up
your
applicant
pool
as
well
for
someone
that
might
be
looking
for
two
and
a
half
days
a
week
or
three
days
a
week
position
that
could
get
some
of
these
audits
done
internally
and
still
report
back
to
the
board.
So
I'm,
not
against
that
from
a
discussion
standpoint.
If
it's
compromised,
I,
think
a
full-time
works
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
they're
really
broadened
the
applicant
base
and
really
to
talk
about
a
compromise
on
the
board.
N
Personally,
can't
tell
you
what
the
Charter
Commission
is
going
to
do.
Okay,
I
can
tell
you
that
Jim
colleano's
took
full
time
in
there,
because
the
attorney
said
specifically
in
the
letter
that
it
didn't
say
full
time.
So
you
can't
have
a
full
time
at
charter
official.
Unless
your
charter
says
he's
full-time
and
it's
not
my
letter,
I
didn't
write
it.
This
is
a
whole.
This
has
all
been
done.
I
can
only
surmise
that
somebody
in
power
at
that
time
decided
that.
N
N
D
A
Well,
it
seems
like
what
we
have
here.
The
consensus
is
we
want
to
have
internal
auditor,
which
is
not
sure
if
a
full
time
is
going
to
be
enough.
It's
going
to
be
enough.
Work
look
for
the
person
to
work,
so
if
we
have
the
option
to
have
some
more
just
like
Commissioner
Khare
said
for
days
instead
of
five
days,
and
if
we
see
that
we
need
to
have
five
days
that
we
can
actually
move
the
person
cheerful.
N
K
Not
concerned
about
mr.
ya
Capone's
opinion
letter
I'm
concerned
about
the
actual
reading
of
the
Charter,
and
if
the
Charter
Rives
that
it's
an
employee,
it's
an
employee,
whether
it's
ten
hours
or
forty
hours,
it
would
be
whatever
the
direction
of
this
commission
would
have
for
that
employee
as
to
how
many
hours
they
work.
So
I
don't
want
to
get
caught
up
on
that.
Okay,
either.
N
K
A
A
D
Was
just
gonna
a
little
bit
and
say
that
if
it
appears
that
we're
circumventing
an
in-house
auditor
by
saying
full-time
or
part-time
I
would
suggest
that
we
just
add,
you
know
if
we're
gonna
go
the
part-time
which,
if
the
attorney
is
clarified,
that
we
don't?
But
this
is
my
train
of
thought
that
we
include
you
know
in.
C
D
Right,
though,
it's
not
an
internal
auditor,
that's
that
we
hire
that's.
You
know
out
of
the
city,
but
an
actual
in-house
person.
That's
walks
within
the
halls
of
City
Hall
has
an
office
here.
You
know
cetera,
but
I
do
support.
You
know
three
to
four
days
a
week
for
sure
be
a
happy
medium
in
terms
of
what
the
board
is
trying
to
the
discussion
where
value
is
added
in
all.
F
K
H
A
K
Do
that
now,
anyway,
we
do
do
it.
It's
just
not
required
under
your
Charter.
Obviously
I
think
it's
important
when
you
have
a
quasi
judicial
board
meeting
that
the
City
Attorney's
Office
attendant
hey
some
of
the
cities.
Don't
want
us
there.
Okay,
for
example,
Oldsmar.
There
is
no
specific
requirement
that
City
Attorney
be
there.
K
A
M
N
N
Slowly,
at
your
decision
you
can
say
after
three
years
we
need
you
to
move
in
town
or
you
can
say
hey,
you
can
stay
there
another
three
years
it
we
tried
to
work
away
around
where
we
could
get
the
people
who
run
our
city
live
in
the
city,
but
the
only
way
to
do
that
in
these
days,
because
employment
is
really
good
right
now,
for
everybody
is
to
try
to
build
something
in
there.
That
says,
if
you
can't
come
right
now,
you
just
bought
a
new
house
or
whatever
we'll
give
you
three
years.
N
M
Will
they
have
to
continue
to
make
that
extension,
so
any
employees
that
are
hired
after
October,
1st
2020?
Well,
let's
say
I'm
a
department
head
and
I
get
hired
and
I
say:
hey
look,
I
live
in,
you
know
Clearwater,
but
I'm
the
best
candidate
for
this
job
and
I
get
hired,
am
I.
Gonna
have
to
make
those
three
year
extensions.
Every
three
years.
M
Was
there
any
thought
given
to
me
making
that
indefinite
or,
if
we're
hiring
an
employee
and
they
want
if
they
want
the
exception
of
being
able
to
not
live
in
the
city
and
they
get
granted
that
exception
and
they
have
that
exception
and
they're
just
as
protected
as
those
that
were
grandfathered
in
just
because
that
might
be
a
little
volatile.
You
know
like
that.
Could
change
with,
however,
that.
N
You
manage
will
take
this
out
because
that
doesn't
let
them
come
in.
You
know.
Right
now,
absolutely
has
to
move
in
is
a
city
manager,
okay,
but
it
doesn't
preclude
an
assistant
if
you
got
one
or
the
Charter
officials
or
anybody
else,
I'm
living
in
Tarpon.
This
is
where
you
make
your
money.
We
hope
you
want
to
live
here
and
spend
it
getting
your
family
here
go
to
our
schools,
but
if
you
can't,
then
the
exception
is
there
to
get
the
best
person
we
can
get,
and
that
was
the
whole
premise.
M
A
O
Singing
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
city
manager,
he
feels
that
adding
all
department
directors
will
impact
recruiting
them.
I
agree
with
him
on
that.
You
have
people
I,
think
we
have
one
position
or
our
planning
is
only
Department
I
think
the
person
lived
just
on
the
other
side.
Classmen
Road
and
people
are
not
gonna,
sell
their
house
and
uproot
everything
to
move
100
feet
to
be
in
the
city.
I
mean
today's
day
and
age.
O
Understand
the
culture
understand
the
needs
and
wants
of
the
people,
and
you
know,
and
the
Charter
Review
Commission
put
that
in
there,
where
you
know
if
you're,
a
city,
employee
and
you're
hired
you
get
an
exemption.
The
exception
of
city
manager,
but
mark
really
feels
that
all
department
heads
is
really
gonna,
hurt
us
in
the
long
run
and
and
that's
his
position.
You
want
me
to
speak
on
tonight.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
mr.
Cole
eNOS
I,
also
feel
the
same
way.
I
agree
that
the
city
manager
and
the
you
know
the
directors
that
relating
to
the
emergency
should
be
in
the
city.
In
case
something
happens,
they
can
actually
respond
to
the
emergency,
but
our
positions
like
the
ax
planning,
is
Oni
director
in
a
building
director.
I,
don't
see
any
emergency
that
is
going
to
happen
that
they
have
to
react
on
the
right
away
in
a
plane
in
a
zonie
I
mean
I'm
sure
they
can
do
that
in
four
or
five
hours.
A
If
the
let's
say
that
are
we,
as
you
know,
we
have
now
we're
looking
for
a
plane
in
a
zonie
director
because
Heather
had
to
she
resigned,
but
if
we,
if
we're
trying
to
recruit
someone
who
lives
on
the
even
in
Harbor
Springs
on
South
Florida
Avenue,
that
it's
not
part
of
the
unincorporated
area,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
person
for
planning
the
zoning.
So
that's
some
of
the
things
I
think
some
of
those
positions
building
director
planning
is
only
project
manager
that
shouldn't
be
excluded
from
that.
N
H
F
A
D
H
D
It
relates
to
our
department
directors,
especially
as
it
relates
to
planning
and
zoning
director
in
the
building
official.
For
me,
it's
very
difficult
to
you
know,
take
advice
from
the
planning
director
here.
What
they
say
have
the
have
the
mutual
respect
to
agree
to
disagree,
as
it
relates
to
things
that
have
large
impacts
on
this
community
and
the
shape
that
they
take,
and
you
know
the
redevelopment
efforts
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
D
If
the
person
is
giving
me,
you
know
their
opinion
and
they're,
not
they
don't
have
the
community
by
and
they're
not
living
in
Tarpon
Springs,
so
I
mean
ultimately
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
do
their
job
and
whatever
recommendations
they've
made
to
the
board.
However,
it
affects
this
community.
They
leave
and
go
home
to
a
different
community
that
doesn't
sit
well
with
me,
so
I'm
all
about
having
it
a
department
directors
as
new
hires
live
within
the
city
of
Tarpon.
Springs.
D
I,
understand
that
you
know
it
might
limit
your
reach
a
little
bit
or
if
somebody
lives
across
the
county
line
that
you
know
they're
not
just
going
to
uproot
their
family.
The
move
here
and
I
think
that
the
Charter
Review
Commission
has
done
a
excellent
job
in
providing
for
exceptions
personally
I
think
the
three
years
is
too
long.
I
would
recommend
you
in
two
years
and
basically
to
me
that
says
you
know:
we've
we've
hired
you
you're
great.
D
We
want
you
to
love
the
community
like
we
love
it
moved
to
Carbon
spring,
though
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
having
said
director
positions
within
the
community.
To
me,
the
the
community
buy-in
is
speaks
volumes.
When
you
hire
this
person,
they
live
within
the
community.
They
have
a
more
you
know.
They
feel
and
touch
the
community
a
little
bit
more
than
just
working
here,
8:00
to
5:00.
So
to
me
this
is
something
that
has
always
stood
out
to
me
as
necessary
within
the
existing
Charter.
D
I
can
appreciate
aspects
of
it
that
were
rewritten,
but
I
mean
I.
100%.
Think
that
department
directors
should
live
within
the
city
limits
now
did
we
provide
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
if
they
don't
live
here
and
we
want
to
hire
them
and
it's
out
in
the
open
that
look
if
we
hire
you
and
you
take
the
job.
You've
got
two
years
to
move
here.
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
wrong
with
that.
I
First
I
want
to
I
want
to
thank
the
Charter
Committee.
That's
here,
you
all
met
in
multiple
meetings.
This
is
the
first
chance
that
the
board
of
Commission
have
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
this.
So
obviously
we
agree.
We
disagree.
Some
of
us
agree
and
some
some
of
us
three
disagree
another.
So
this
is
just
a
really
unique
situation
that
we've
had
that
I
haven't
really
had
an
experience
with
them
before
in
the
past.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
services
and
mr.
Cooley
honest
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
I
Can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
the
date
because
currently
in
the
Charter
today,
it
talks
about?
If
you
were
hired
prior
to
March
14th
2000,
you
would
not
have
to
comply
with
meeting
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
but
the
Charter
would
change
to
October
1st
2020.
Can
we
talk
about
how
we
got
to
that
date
and
why
we
would
eliminate
the
March
14th
they
well.
N
I
I
And
mr.
Cooley
on,
she
brought
up
the
point
that
currently
today
in
the
Charter
has
a
city
clerk,
administrative
services,
director,
fire
chief
police,
chief,
public
services,
director
development
services,
director
and
Planning
and
Zoning
director.
So
it
already
calls
out
and
positions
by
name.
But
what,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
the
Charter
committee
just
summarizes
it
a
little
bit
better
and
might
throw
a
wider
cast
net
to
encompass.
Maybe
a
couple
more
directors,
exact.
N
Would
be
crazy,
it's
the
hardest
issue
in
the
whole.
Charter
is
a
residency
because
you
want
the
best
you
could
possibly
get,
but
you
wanted
to
be
part
of
your
family
yeah,
that's
what
this
is
all
about
and
we
tried
to
do
everything
possible
to
say:
if
that's
the
best
guy
out
there
forget
the
year,
cuz
nobody's
gonna,
move
in
for
just
one
year
and
take
a
chance.
You
know,
I
sell
my
house
moved
to
tarpon
for
a
year.
N
They
may
fire
me
and
that's
why
the
three
years
went
in
and
that's
and
then
we
took
the
limit
off.
You
can
do
three
years
after
three
years
after
three
years,
if
somebody's
had
let's
say
two
excuses
for
up
to
six
years
and
they're
still
worried
about
being
fired,
somebody's
doing
their
job,
they're,
probably
happy
at
what
they're
doing
and
they're
gonna
stay
there
like
I
said
their
kids
will
be
in
school.
They
have
a
college.
You
know
it's
people,
how
do
you
put
everybody
situation
in
one
bag?
I
You
I
mean
from
this
standpoint:
I
would
I
will
support
this
from
a
commissioner
standpoint.
The
part
that
I
would
recommend
is
just
crossing
out.
October,
1st
2020
I,
don't
see
why
we
should
have
a
day
down
there
from
the
board.
If
the
board
feels
that
the
directors
or
charter
office
officers
or
whoever
maybe
should
live
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
why
should
we
say
for
any
new
ones?
When
we
have
currently
a
full
staff,
we
have
a
couple
of
department,
a
department
head
that
will
be
open
tomorrow.
I
Why
are
we
restricted
that
for
our
current
employees
to
say
if
you're,
a
new
employee
we'll
want
to
see
you
be
part
of
the
city
but
I?
Think
myself,
I
would
say
if
you're
a
current
employee
I
would
want
to
see
you
part
of
the
city
as
well
two
to
three
years,
it
doesn't
matter
to
me
I
would
support
either
vice
mayor
brought
up
two
years.
I
I
would
support
that,
but
I
think
the
date
were
just
resetting
the
clock
ultimately
again
from
2000,
because
what
happens
if
you're
promoted
from
another
position
and
at
that
point
you
still
live
in
another
community
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
these
individuals
as
directors
within
the
city
themselves
and
again,
like
it's,
been
brought
up.
There's
an
opportunity,
the
board
bills,
to
support
this,
a
head
of
department
that
it
could
extend
a
time
period
for
no
max
amount
to
extend
the
person
to
live
elsewhere
as
well.
So
I'm
supporting
this
one.
I
H
N
D
N
F
F
I
F
I
F
A
Yeah
Commissioner
Khare,
when
these
people
took
this
position,
it
was
really
agreement
that
they
can
actually
live
outside
the
city.
They
got
the
promotion
wound
up.
You
just
cannot
go
back
now
and
tell
them
hey.
Listen,
we
change
our
mind.
We
want
you
to
move
in.
You
know,
I,
don't
see
that
I
agree
that
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
make
some
requirements.
Let's
deal
with
a
new
employee.
I
But
the
person
who
was
employed
today
and
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
They
wouldn't
have
to
live
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
because
they're
already
an
employee
of
tarpon
before
this
actually
went
into
place.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
if
you
were
to
accept
the
position
for
maybe
a
promotion,
then
at
that
point
the
expectation
would
be
that
you
moved
to
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
as
well.
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
compromise
between
the
two.
D
Make
sense
I
agree
with
I
mean
to
me
the
department
directors,
with
exception
to
the
existing
employees.
I
agree
like
if
you're
an
existing
employee
and
you
you
haven't
been
a
director
or
you
are
a
director
you're,
an
existing
employee
prior
to
this
language,
then
I
get
it
right.
I
mean
there's
got
to
be
an
exception,
but
I
mean
to
me.
This
is
cut
and
dry.
If
you
want
to.
D
M
I,
don't
think
it's
cut
and
dry
I
just
feel
like
if
I
have
it.
You
know
if
I
have
a
family
in
Clearwater
I
got
my
kid
and
Clearwater
middle
or
Clearwater
high
school,
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
that's
just
something
that
I'm
definitely
going
to
consider
before
I
work
here
is
whether
or
not
I'm
gonna
have
those
future
opportunities
or
whether
or
not
I
even
want
to
consider
them,
because
I'm
gonna
have
to
uproot
my
family
to
bring
them
here.
M
A
Actually,
I
I
feel
that
all
the
employees
related
to
the
emergency
response
abilities.
They
should
be
living
in
the
city,
so
it
can
actually
responding
to
to
a
problem
right
away,
but
positions
like
Planning
and
Zoning
director
or
building
director
project
manager.
If
you
live
in
Palm
Harbor
I'm.
Ok
with
that
I.
H
A
D
But
it's
just
known
that
you
got
to
move
within
within
the
city
within
a
couple
years,
I
mean
if
it's
me
this
is
still
enough
of
a
small
town
to
where
you
know,
I
want
the
police,
chief's
kids
at
the
football
game,
I
want
them
playing
football
at
our
high
school.
To
me,
that's
just
that's
the
buy-in
I
mean
that's
the
that's
the
community,
that's
the
type
of
community
that
I
think
we
are.
K
K
That's
not
going
to
happen.
I
love,
tarpon,
springs.
I
grew
up
here
raised
my
kids
here,
but
I'm
happy
where
I'm
currently
living
and
I
don't
see
myself
moving
so
that
date
protects
me
and
in
this
position,
and
so
I
would
just
tell
you
that
now
you're
adding
all
chartered
officials,
including
the
city
attorney.
If
you
take
out
the
date
in
three
years,.
A
I
I
H
D
Like
the
proposal
as
it
is,
I
would
change.
The
I
mean
I
could
leave
the
employment
prior
to
October,
twenty
twenty
or
just
prior
to
the
effective
date
of
this
amendment
or
effective
date
of
this
ratification
of
this
language
or
whatever.
But
I
do
agree
that
if
you're
a
prior
employee
I'm,
not
gonna,
you
know
pull
the
rug
out
from
under
you,
but
I.
D
Don't
think
that
there's
I
think
to
go
from
exception
to
three
your
exception
to
three
your
exception
of
three
or
exception
that
just
sir
convince
the
intent
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
so
I
mean
I,
think
a
couple
years
exception
again
to
be
able
to
reach
out
and
hire
from
a
broader
base.
Understanding
that
you've
got
a
couple
years.
I
think
serves
the
point
and
I
think
that
the
Charter
Review
Committee
did
a
good
job
by
making
it
department
directors
versus
spelling
out
the
individual
directors,
because
a
perfect
example
would
be.
D
We
might
have
a
internal
auditor
director
right.
But
if
that's
it,
if
you
just
leave
it
spelling
out
the
way
things
are
spelled
out
and
the
internal
the
future
positions
aren't
included
there.
Then
you
know
that
they're
being
left
out
of
the
equation,
but
by
stating
department,
directors,
I,
think
it
includes
any
future
department
head
well.
A
I
see
a
little
bit
different
than
that
I
like
to
see
the
city
manager
and
all
the
other
positions
relating
to
the
emergency
related
responsibilities
by
positions.
The
ones
they're
not
like
a
building
department,
as
I
said
earlier,
planning
a
zoning.
If
we
believe
that
I
wish
they
should
be
exempt
from
that,
because
he
will
restrict
us
to
recruit
a
qual
quality
director.
So
that's
the
way
I
wanted
to
see
him.
F
A
A
K
K
I
D
D
K
So
these
city
manager
charter
officers,
which
would
include
the
city
clerk
and
myself
and
your
internal
auditor
now,
if
it
passes
and
if
they
were
employed
before
October
1st
2020,
it
really
doesn't
affect
them.
If
you're
hiring
a
Charter
official
after
October
1,
2020
they're
gonna
have
to
meet
the
requirement
of
presidency
in
the
city.
F
F
K
After
October
1st
2020,
if
you
hired
a
new
city
clerk,
the
city
attorney
or
internal
auditor,
they
would
all
have
reside
within
the
city
so,
but
right
now
and
the
employee,
that's
currently
employed
by
the
city,
including
the
city
attorney
before
October
1
2020.
You
do
not
have
to
live
within
the
city
limits.
D
K
D
K
So
would
read
the
city
manager
charter
officers,
including
the
assistant
city
manager,
police
chief
and
fire
chief,
shall
establish
permanent
residents
legal
residency
within
the
city
within
one
one
year
after
appointment,
provided,
however,
that
this
provision
shall
not
apply
to
such
employees,
including
the
city
attorney
employed
prior
to
October,
1
2020.
Even
if
such
employees
appointed
to
any
position
listed
above
nor
the
temporary
employees
or
temporarily
appointed
employees,
I'm
sorry
officials,
any
person
required
to
establish
residency
within
the
city.
K
Pursuant
to
this
section
upon
relocation,
such
persons
legal
resident
shall
be
required
to
reside
within
the
city
limits
of
the
city.
The
board
of
commissioners
may
excuse
the
residency
requirement
or
such
time
periods
no
one
time
period
to
exceed
three
years
as
it
deems
appropriate
in
the
best
interests
of
the
city
for
all
aforementioned
positions.
In
this
section,
except
for
the
position
of
the
city
manager,.
A
A
I
N
Some
of
the
information
we
got
budget-wise
was
I,
don't
want
to
say
it
was
misleading
because
I'm,
not
a
budget
expert
but
as
it
turned
out
I
just
give
you
a
quick
example:
2017
we
had
$30,000
for
sidewalks
in
2018.
We
had
none
in
2019,
so
we
basically
questioned
that
type
of
budgets
that
one
year
you're
going
to
put
sidewalks
in
one
year,
you're
not
only
to
find
out
later
on
that
they
put
a
lot
more
sidewalks
in
and
another
fund
called
cement.
N
N
N
It's
a
reasonable
way
to
do
it.
It
doesn't
seem
to
make
sense
if
you
spend
money
out
of
the
two
million
bucks
and
if
you
go
back
and
I,
give
you
the
history
on
it.
They
were
no
sidewalks
being
done
a
number
of
years
ago
and
because
it
got
into
charter
this
way
that
you
have
to
save
the
money.
Until
you
get
two
million
dollars,
then
you
have
to
replace
it
and
keep
that
fun.
Active
we've
outgrown
that
and
we're
giving
it
back
to
you
in
a
better
way.
Okay,.
A
Got
a
question
and
I
agreed
to
have
it
as
a
matching
fund
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I
don't
know.
Mr.
lecoeur
is
not
here
today,
but
I
wonder
if
there
are
any
projects
already
calculating
to
use
some
of
the
font
to
a
new
project
like
Muse,
Bulevar
or
speed.
That
has
not
been
done
yet
well.
A
N
So
the
basic
principle
we
decided
on
was
well.
The
cities
are
known
for
the
last
three
to
five
years:
I
got
to
put
sidewalks
out
there
why
the
heck
haven't
they
budgeted
for
it?
Why
don't
you
take
that
sidewalk
money
and
put
it
in
a
special
account,
so
when
they
do
open
the
road
you
got
it
and
you've
had
all
this
time
to
do
it.
N
So
now
we're
gonna
open
up
a
whole
new
area,
and
you
want
to
spend
the
money
from
the
sidewalk
fund
that
we're
trying
to
give
back
to
you
and
it's
not
going
to
go
to
the
people
who
have
been
waiting
for
sidewalks
that
need
to
repairs
and
and
houses
that
have
been
there
for
10
or
15
years
and
still
don't
have
sidewalks.
So
if
you
drop
the
ball
guys.
H
I
I
just
want
to
bring
up
a
couple
points
mayor
and
something
that's
a
little
bit
different,
yet
I
I
think
it
was
a
great
idea
when
this
was
brought
up
many
many
years
ago
to
create
a
fund.
What
this
fund
is
designed
to
do
is
you
have
two
million
dollars
and
use
the
interest
of
this
fund
to
to
repair,
sidewalks
or
put
new
sidewalks
in
or
repair
roads
it?
It
makes
sense
it
made
sense
at
the
time,
but
today
the
Commission
has
the
other
alternatives
to
this.
I
The
penny
fund
would
be
a
good
example
of
that
we
use
on
capital
projects,
there's
some
other
projects
that
are
other
funds
that
chairman
Cooley
Alex
brought
up
about
the
the
sidewalk
fund.
For
instance,
the
city
is
spending
a
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars
in
sidewalks
in
the
2020
budget.
I
recall
that
isn't
coming
strictly
from
the
sidewalk
fund,
it's
coming
from
different
funds
as
well,
so
there's
other
avenues
to
fund
sidewalks
and
street
improvements
in
2020,
which
is
the
budget
we're
in
today.
I
would
like
to
propose
a
couple
ideas.
I
Just
from
a
understanding
is
that
if
the
city
wanted
to
fund
again,
I
brought
the
penny
fund
and
the
way
this
operates
today
is
it's
two
million
dollars
sitting
in
a
bank
account
its
interest
earned.
So
if
the
city
were
to
go
through
this
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
it
would
take
about
28
years
to
go
through
and
deplete
simple
math
says
it
would
take
20,
but
you
have
to
remember
that
there's
interesting
earned
each
year
so
you
take
some
out.
Interest
is
being
built.
I
You
take
some
out,
so
it
takes
about
20
years
to
get
through
the
two
million
dollars,
one
of
the
avenues
that
I
would
like
to
and
I.
This
is
one
of
the
discussions
that
city
manager's
gonna
bring
up,
I
believe
at
some
point
in
the
next
month,
or
so
the
city
has
a
reserve,
a
healthy
reserve
fund
of
eight
million
dollars,
and
one
of
the
avenues
that
the
city
could
take
approach
on
is
allocating
two
million
dollars
and
the
reserve
funds.
The
interest
that's
earned
on
that
two
million
dollars.
I
It
could
be
thirty
to
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
It
goes
to
sidewalks.
So
then,
at
that
point
the
city
just
replaced
a
sidewalk
fund
by
using
the
interest
earned
that's
currently
sitting
on
our
reserve
fund
that
we
have
to
keep
that
we're,
keeping
for
sidewalks
still
so
ultimately
you're
keeping
the
sidewalk
fund
that's
way
of
saying
it
and
then
there's
other
avenues
of
the
penny
fund.
To
do
projects
as
well
I
do
feel
that
the
$100,000
is
pretty
restrictive.
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
some
legacy
projects,
especially
in
a
couple
areas.
I
I
would
make
a
recommendation
jasmine
road
in
front
of
the
Rose
Cemetery
and
in
front
of
Discovery
Park.
It's
been
in
dire
need
of
some
type
of
walkway
for
quite
some
time.
It's
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
for
children.
If
they're
parked
out
by
the
road
with
the
football
and
soccer
fields
there
South
Spring
Boulevard,
that's
an
issue
that
the
board
has
brought
up
multiple
times
with
the
riprap
Rock,
along
with
them
by
you
and
then
also
some
type
of
trail.
I
If
it
could
be
a
recreational
trail
that
connects
the
bayous
to
Sunset
Beach
or
connects
the
values
to
for
Howard
Park.
As
you
go
around
these
areas,
you
see
people
out
there
constantly
biking,
walking
their
dogs
running
walking
your
children,
children
going
to
school.
These
are
all
avenues
but
they're
all
on
small
sidewalks,
and
these
sidewalks
also
have
blood
on
small
reins
too.
So
a
lot
of
them
are
going
into
the
roads
to
avoid
the
flooded
sidewalks.
So
with
this
sidewalk
fund
and
then
also
another
part
is
the
lack
of
bike
lanes.
I
So
I
think
that
it
would
serve
the
city
well
to
see
some
legacy
projects
instead
of
some
small
infill
projects,
because
that's
what
the
board
of
Commission
has
been
doing
for
many
years
now,
it's
been
small
infill
projects,
I
mean
we're
spending
a
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars.
We
just
approved
it
I
think
two
meetings
ago
for
infill
projects
all
around
the
city,
not
just
one
area,
so
it
the
board's
doing
their
job
and
that
I
believe
so.
I
do
feel
that
this
is
pretty
restrictive
and
I.
I
O
Hey
Thank
You
mayor
I
had
the
opportunity
twice
to
go
before
the
Charter
Review
Commission,
on
behalf
of
a
city
manager
and
kind
of
expressed
the
views
of
city
manager's
office.
So
you
really
have
and
what
we
discussed
with
the
Charter
Review
Commission
was
you
have
two
million
dollars?
That's
a
lot
of
capital
sitting
there
and
you
can't
really
use
it.
You
have
to
replace
it.
O
You
can't
really
use
the
interest
so
what
we've
really
been
doing
over
the
years
and
this
initially
included
streets
inside
Waukee,
we
use
Local,
Option,
Sales
Tax
and
we
use
the
general
fund
or
we
use.
You
know
some
other
type
of
funding,
try
and
do
projects,
but
this
money,
you
really
could
never
touch.
You
just
use
the
interest.
O
So
now
you
can
only
use
a
hundred
thousand
of
it
and
you
have
to
match
it
so
and
there's
also
noting
one
of
the
things
that
mark
it
onto
there's
really
nothing
here
for
bike
lanes
or
bike
trails
or
bike
paths,
and
that's
gonna,
be
a
part
of
livable
walkable
communities
going
into
the
future
and
Commissioner
Khare
just
hit
on
that.
But
but
our
position
has
kind
of
always
been
you
have
two
million
dollars
and
and
one
of
the
great
things
about
cities
and
local
governments,
you
grassroot
service,
you
really.
O
You
really
provide
service
that
affects
the
quality
of
life,
whether
it's
bike,
trails,
sidewalks
streets
parks,
but
singing
marriages,
office
fields.
You
have
a
lot
of
money
sitting
here
and
and
your
elected
officials
and
you're,
probably
in
the
best
position,
to
determine
what
to
do
with
that
money.
Reinvest
it
back
into
the
community.
But
if,
if
we
go
down
this
route,
city
managers
say
and
I
had
a
meeting,
he
would
just
ask
that
who
would
be
possible
to
put
some
money
specifically
for
bike
lanes
or
bike
paths?
O
A
F
F
I
Well,
I
want
to
be
sensitive
on
how
it
says
taking
it
from
reserve,
so
we
would
or
if
the
board
feels
that
the
best
Avenue
but
yeah
I've
talked
to
him
about
alternatives
to
allocating,
for
instance,
code
enforcement
funds
to
certain
things,
and
it
would
be
also
the
reserve
interests.
It
would
just
only
be
the
interest
earned
on
the
reserve.
It
wouldn't
be
actually
touching
the
the
egg
of
the
reserve.
It
would
just
be
the
interest
earned
the
the
set-aside
and
maybe
two
million
the
interest
would
go
towards
sidewalks.
I
A
H
A
A
A
This
is
what
we
need
to
be
talked
about,
but
you
made
it
a
good
point
that
and
also
the
other
city
manager,
that,
by
claims
it's
very
important
that
we
need
to
have
in
the
city
and
to
me
that
should
be
included
in
the
sidewalk,
because
you
know
you
know.
In
order
for
us
to
be
a
walking
community,
you
need
to
have
the
sidewalks
to
be
able
to
walk
from
place
to
place,
but
also
we
need
to
have
a
different
way.
It's
like
a
bicycle,
or
something
like
that
to
get
to
different
places.
A
A
N
Money
came
out
of
a
sidewalk
fund,
a
general
fund,
you
one
cent
Local
Option
Sales
Tax
and
whatever
project
TR,
one
nine
zero.
One
is
well.
If
you
did
that
next
year,
you'd
have
two
hundred
and
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
to
spend
so
you're
telling
me
you
don't
have
any
money,
you're
spending
a
hundred
and
sixty-five
thousand
dollars
he's.
J
N
A
N
N
It
depends
on
what
you
pay
for
foot,
how
much
money
you
want
to
spend
for
each
thing.
If
you
spend
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
you
spend
65
for
bike
lanes,
you've
done
what
you
want
to
do,
but
you're
gonna
get
two
hundred
thousand
for
sidewalks
and
65
for
bike
lanes
and
they're.
Only
this
wide
right,
they're,
not
the
four
or
five
foot
wide
and
they're,
usually
along
side
of
a
road,
an
existing
road
that
hopefully
will
only
require
striping.
A
D
You
Mara
I
I
appreciate
where
the
the
board
was
going
with
this
and
I
supported.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
a
couple
of
things
that
I
think
are
worth
mentioning.
If
you
go
down
to
where
they
say,
there's
the
strikeout
lines,
then
it
says
the
Board
of
Commissioners
by
resolution
made
direct
withdrawal,
use
Bubba
ba,
and
it
goes
down
to
the
third
point,
and
it
says
the
proceeds
from
this
fund
shall
not
be
used
for
sidewalks
along
roadways
or
roadway
extensions,
whether
commercial,
residential
or
roadways
or
roadway.
Extensions
are
not
physically
in
existence.
H
D
The
land
development
code
speaks
to
the
developer
being
responsible
for
so
I
think
that
this
is
smart
in
the
sense
that
it
speaks
to
that.
However,
I
would
maybe
add-
or
until
such
time
as
said,
roadways
are
constructed
right,
so
I
mean
the
way
it
reads.
Is
we
can't
utilize
these
funds
for
sidewalks,
along
roadways
that
are
named,
aren't
in
existence,
but
if
they're
create-
and
that
says,
but
but
then
a
caveat
set
to
where
it
says
in
existence
at
the
time
of
this,
adopt
the
adoption
of
this
section
right.
D
So
the
way
it
reads
is
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
Mr.
Turney
is
until
such
time
of
adoption
of
this
section
right.
So,
if
there's
no
roadway
in
existence
today-
and
we
adopted
today
but
two
weeks
from
now,
there's
a
roadway
there,
we
can't
use
and
for
some
reason
it
was
a
development
agreement
where
the
developer,
the
land
development
code.
You
know
the
developer
didn't
have
to
put
this
up
the
sidewalks
in,
and
a
roadways
constructed
after
this
adoption.
It
limits
us
in
the
use
of
the
sidewalk
funds.
Is
that
correct,
yeah.
K
D
I,
like
the
way
it's
written,
I'm
saying
the
way
it's
written
if
it's
adopted
today
in
two
weeks
from
now,
we
utilize
some
development
agreement
or
some
mechanism
to
where
somebody
put
in
a
road
and
didn't
build
the
sidewalk,
contrary
to
what's
required
within
the
land
development
code,
because
it
was
built
two
weeks
after
this
was
adopted.
Now
we
can't
utilize
sidewalk
funds.
That's.
D
I'm
saying
I
like
the
way
it's
written,
but
can
we
add
at
the
end
of
that
sentence
or
until
such
time
as
said
roadways
are
constructed
or
something
to
that
effect?
Basically
saying
that,
after
adoption
of
this
of
this
section,
two
weeks
from
now
for
roadways
built
and
there's
no
sidewalk
constructed
being
it's
built
now
that
it's
physically
built,
we
can
utilize
funds
for
construction
of
sidewalk,
I.
Think.
K
That
we
would
need
to
completely
reword
that
sentence
and
it
you
because
you're
basically
saying
in
the
front
end
of
the
sentence,
you
cannot
use
the
money
in
any
situation
where
the
road
doesn't
currently
exist
and
in
the
back
end
of
the
sentence
you're
saying,
but
if
we
do
have
a
road
sometime
in
the
future
that
we
can
use
it.
So
no
I
don't
think
that
adding
that
to
the
end
of
the
sentence
is
going
to
put
you
in
a
better
position.
One.
D
K
F
H
D
D
I'm
saying
if
given
the
way
it's
read-
and
we
all
understand
that
after
this
is
adopted,
if
a
roadway
is
built
and
there's
no
sidewalk,
we
can't
utilize
the
money.
So
if
we
can
amend
it
to
include
you
know
it
provided
for
or
at
such
time
the
roadway
is
constructed,
then
we
can
utilize
the
money
to
build
the
sidewalk,
then
we're
good.
So.
K
Leaving
the
first
portion
of
the
sentence
in
doesn't
help
you
in
any
way,
so
just
deleting
it
altogether
would
accomplish
the
task
that
you
want
to
accomplish
any
future
roads
could
be
used
or
this
money
could
be
used
for
any
future
roads,
you're,
not
saving
anything.
In
the
end,
the
commission
is
not
saving
anything
by
having
the
first
part
of
the
sentence
in
so
it
I
think
that
what
you're
saying
is
it
it
needs
to
come
out
completely
to
do
what
you
want
it
to.
D
Do
or
does
it
need
to
come
out
completely
if
provided
once
the
roads
built,
the
funds
are
applicable
because
the
intent
of
it
is
to
say
you
can't
use
monies
to
build
sidewalks
if
there's
no
Road
they're
in
existence
right
so
at
a
future
date.
If
the
road
is
there
and
it's
physically
constructed,
then
you
would
be
able
to
use
the
funds.
This.