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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners March 10, 2020
Description
Regular Session and CRA
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The
Lord
be
with
you:
gracious
Lord
Lord
of
Hosts.
We
give
you
thanks
for
this
beautiful
town
that
you've
given
us
to
live
in
help
us
to
be
good
stewards
of
it.
We
ask
that
you
would
be
with
our
commissioners,
give
them
wisdom
and
guide
them
with
your
counsel.
We
ask
that
you
would
also
watch
over
our
children,
protect
us
from
the
evil
one
and
guide
us
in
ways
that
bring
you
glory.
We
ask
all
of
this.
In
the
name
of
the
Most
High
God,
the
Father,
the
Son
and
the
Holy
Spirit
amen.
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E
My
name
is
Reverend
James
Wong
I
met
a
girl,
Evelyn,
sighs
distant
Avenue
and
mr.
Abbas's
on
the
corner
right
there
8:03
I'm,
just
concerned
about
the
speed
limit.
I
wouldn't
have
speed
bumps
along
there,
because
that
I'm
looking
at
the
road
it's
going
toward
miss
Deb's
house
but
I,
said
port.
You
have
an
idiot
coming
speeding
alone
there
and
can't
stop
and
miss
miss
Deb's
house
and
going
through
mines,
I'm
concerned
about
that
y'all
prepared
to
put
some
speed
bumps
along
there
in
cool
water.
They
got
a
run
about.
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You
know
right
about
the
slow
traffic
down
to
because
early
in
the
morning,
I
walked
with
this
older
gentleman
from
the
trailer
apartment,
some
tiny
walk
and
school
bus
along
there.
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
citizen.
I'm
not
yelling,
raise
hell,
mind
s
concerned
about
that
citizen
and
the
speeders.
You
know
if
y'all
could
put
this
one
of
the
thing
that
know
how
fast
you're
going,
maybe
that'll
help
too,
and
then
they
don't
have
no
excuse
when
the
officer
get
my
ticket
from
speeding,
slow
it
down
I
think
about.
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Pierre
du
Lac
is
five
one
for
Ashland,
Avenue
and
I.
Think
wherever
and
Warren
did
bring
up
some
valid
considerations
as
that
road
progresses
to
be
built.
In
fact,
part
of
my
notes
here
will
maybe
address
that
a
little
bit
later,
but
I
do
have
a
couple
things
I
want
to
go
over.
First
is
meetings
access
and
process
access?
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And
George
of
Pioneer
Development
hear
me
now.
I
know
you're
not
here,
but
this
is
my
challenge
to
you.
You
say
you
love
tarpon,
but
yet
you
go
out
and
you
rape
virgin
land
to
put
in
homes.
If
you
go
out
by
the
fire
station
water
plant
they've
cleared
out
a
whole
bunch
of
areas
for
town
house
and
they're
trying
to
do
the
same
thing
in
East
Lake.
My
challenge
to
pioneer
development
is
to
get
without
Hoffman,
get
with
Karen
get
with
the
banks.
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G
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H
Thank
you
well,
I.
Last
left
off
with
the
transcripts
that
we
were
trying
to
request
for
Mark
Lycoris.
We
have
not
received
them
from
the
city,
yet
I,
don't
know
why,
what's
taking
so
long
to
receive
them,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
verify
you
know
your
education
as
well
as
everything
moving
forward
with
your
credentials.
I
was
able
to
pull
the
salary
for
mr.
H
Merkle,
of
course,
and
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
his
actual
salary
for
2019,
it's
one
hundred
thirty
thousand
six
hundred
twenty-two
dollars
and
thirteen
cents
I
checked
her
a
3%
increase
from
the
2018,
which
was
126
thousand
eight
hundred
seventeen
dollars
and
sixty
cents
I've
been
informed
by
some
city
workers
that
when
they
before
they
can
even
receive
an
increase
in
any
type
of
salary,
they
must
get
an
annual
review
and
we
have
a
hydrating
overview.
Yet
we're
still
is
there
stuff
in
the
works
of
it.
H
As
far
as
the
pension
and
I
also
mention
the
salary,
because
I
requested
his
pension
from
the
Tarpon
Springs
Police
Department,
we
have
not
received
that
yet
either
I.
Don't
know
why
the
police
department
is
holding
it.
We'd
like
to
be
able
to
show
the
income
that
you're
making
on
your
monthly
pension
to
show
the
double-dipping.
Now
double
dipping
isn't
necessary.
It's
not
illegal,
but
speaking
ethically
I.
Don't
think
it's
ethical
for
us
to
be
the
people
of
Tarpon
Springs
on
our
on
the
back
of
our
taxpayer.
Dollars
would
be
double
dipping
on
us.
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It's
only
supposed
to
be
used
in
an
emergency,
for
example,
a
school
resource
officer,
there's
not
enough
officers
for
our
Police
Department
to
send
a
school
resource
officer
to
the
city.
So
what
do
we
do?
We
hire
somebody
who's
retired,
and
we
agree
that
we
will
pay
them
why
they
receive
their
pension.
It's
actually
in
the
case
of
emergency
Marc
you're
double-dipping
is
not
in
the
case
of
emergency
or
necessity
and
Mayor.
Last
time,
I
got
off
the
stage
you
made.
Another
public
comment
about
me
not
representing
the
Greek
community.
H
If
you're
not
going
to
engage
in
conversation
or
questions
that
I
asked,
that
and
I
have
plenty
of
questions
to
ask,
then
please
do
not
comment
after
I
get
done.
Please
just
say
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
move
on.
You
know,
but
in
fact
I
do
represent
the
Greek
community.
I
do
represent
a
portion
of
them.
I
represent
a
portion
of
a
lot
of
people
who
have
their
opinions
and
really
want
to
speak
out.
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The
truth
you
know,
did
you
forget
to
mention
that
the
people
who
see
me
exactly
the
ones
where
you
left
the
mayor
over
there?
You
were
supposed
to
meet
the
mayor
and
see
me
in
colleague
notes,
and
you
left
the
board
of
commissions
there
by
themselves.
They
remember
that
so
what
we're
trying
to
get
out
here
all
this
is
all
because
our
city
manager,
the
time
of
this
chief,
he
hired
some
dirty
cops.
H
Hence
public
gas
officer
Gaston
and
here
we
have
from
November
15
2002
mark
Lycoris,
gave
a
written
reprimand
for
not
processing
the
crime
scene
for
officer
gassen
that
was
2002.
We
got
an
officer
who
just
sits.
There
completely
violates
General
Orders
time
and
time
again,
and
here
we
go
chief
koushin
just
baby.
Send
me
a
couple
covers
him
up.
It's
no
different
because
he's
part
of
the
lakorn
air
he's
part
of
the
Quarian
wait.
Everybody
who's
been
hired
from
Markel.
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Of
course,
the
ones
who
are
sitting
here
at
the
top
of
management
are
the
most
corrupt
ones.
We
also
have
September
2nd
2011
as
well
as
September
22nd
2011.
Mr.
Gaston
went
to
the
scene
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
High
School.
What
has
caught
with
his
police
vehicle
car
actually
tried
to
act
like
an
officer
when
he
wasn't
supposed
to
had
three
General
Order
violations,
and
if
that
was
happening
today's
day,
everybody
all
the
parents
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
High
they'd
be
getting
text
messages.
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I
Double-Dipping
I
hate
that
word
when
you've
worked
as
many
years
in
the
city
and
put
in
your
time,
you've
earned
your
pension.
You
should
not
judge
a
pension
with
a
new
job
and
what
someone
makes
that's
dirty
and
that's
nasty
I,
don't
like
it.
People
see
it
on
TV.
You
know,
and
you
come
up
here.
If
these
accusations
are
right,
then
bring
the
proof.
So
we
can
see
if
you
can't
get
your
answers.
I
Go
to
the
State
Attorney's
Office
file,
a
complaint
go
to
8
on
your
side
and,
let's
see
what's
really
happening,
don't
make
accusations
with
no
backup.
It
hurts
the
community,
it
hurts
the
Greek
community,
it
hurts
the
non
Greek
community.
It
hurts
us
so
every
which
way
in
this
town
we
must
have
facts.
We
have
to
know
what
we're
doing
and
what
we're
saying.
If
it's
the
truth,
then
it'll
come
out
and
you'll
be
vindicated,
but
until
then
don't
come
and
make
accusations
or
talk
about
people's
salaries.
I'm
gonna
be
78
in
a
few
weeks.
I
I
want
a
job.
I
can't
go
to
my
old
job
anymore.
It'll
kill
me
I,
want
a
job.
I
have
a
pinch
too
pensions
and
Social
Security.
So
if
I
go
out
and
work,
are
you
gonna
come
while
I'm
working
say
fire
her,
because
she's
double-dipping?
No
that's
a
peep,
that's
someone's
right
and
to
say
that
someone's
dirty
give
us
the
facts.
Get
the
paperwork
go
to
the
st.,
the
Tampa
Tribune
and
tell
them
this?
Is
it
publish
it,
but
don't
come
up
here
and
make
accusations
where
everyone's
going
to
hear?
I
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A
A
F
A
A
Don't
have
accused
the
minutes,
a
September
3rd
2019
regulation
B
is
September
10th
2019
regular
session
C
is
January
14
2020
regular
session
D
January
28
2020
regular
session
E
is
February
11th
2020
regular
session
F
February
18th
2020
the
executive
session
number
3
is
a
special
events.
A
is
a
salsa
Cinco
de
Mayo
made
second
2020.
B
is
flags
for
freedom
made
16
2020
C
is
Athens
by
night.
A
K
A
A
M
Evening,
Paul
Smith
public
services.
Director.
This
item
is
our
utility
rehabilitation
and
construction
services
contracts.
It
has
to
do
with
construction
for
our
water
line,
sewer
lines
and
reclaim
water
lines.
We've
got
a
few
projects,
urgent
ones,
that
we
need
to
complete
and
it's
going
to
go
over
our
current
authorization
with
the
board.
So
this
item
will
requesting
you
to
increase
that
authorization
by
300,000.
So
we
can
complete
these
two
projects.
These
include
a
manhole
on
MLK
right
near
Sanford
Avenue.
You
might
have
noticed
it
driving
through
there.
M
It's
it's
starting
to
sink,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
major
project
to
get
everything
replaced
and
we
lifted
there
and
then
the
other
project.
We've
got
a
water
line
on
Division
Street.
This
is
over
by
Athens
and
a
sewer
manhole
on
that
street.
So
the
total
of
those
projects
is
going
to
be
over
the
the
limit.
We
currently
have
Thank
You.
J
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J
A
B
M
On
that
sure,
it's
really
a
combination
of
many
things,
but
it
starts
with
the
staff
that
works
with
it,
the
most,
which
is
our
water
conveyance
division.
These
are
the
staff
that
repair
the
pipes,
and
so
they
look
at
work
orders
where
they've
been
out
there
for
repairs
in
this
case
also,
water
quality,
we've
gotten
complaints
about
water
having
a
color
to
it.
That's
usually
if
the
pipe
is
corroding
badly,
so
that'll
be
another
thing
to
put
it
higher
up
on
the
list.
M
Other
things
maybe
like
you
mentioned
there
might
be
areas
with
certain
materials
of
pipes
that
just
make
them
prone
to
failure.
So
we
put
all
these
factors
together,
knowing
we've
got
more
need
than
we
could
have
funding
to
stay
within
our
rates,
but
we
prioritize
and
do
the
most
urgent
things.
First,
thank.
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N
Is
ordinance
2020,
dysarthria,
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Turpan
Springs
Florida,
mending
section
18-12
fines
established
of
division,
1
generally
of
article
two
parking:
stopping
and
standing
of
chapter
18
traffic
of
the
Code
of
Ordinances
to
establish
a
fine
for
non
electric
vehicles,
parked
within
any
parking
space
specifically
designated
for
charging
electric
vehicle
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
There
was
a
second
final
reading
of
wardens,
2020
0
3.
N
It
was
published
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
by
title
only
on
February
28
28
2020
in
your
backup
you'll
see
that
there
were
answers
to
your
questions
relative
to
at
least
one
of
the
commissioners
relative
to
wanting
to
reference
a
cross-reference,
the
city
code
with
the
city
or
a
state
statute.
The
police
department
has
done
that
and
the
attachment
behind
the
ordinance.
That
is
not
part
of
the
ordinance,
but
it's
just
additional
backup
to
answer
any
questions
relative
to
that
connection
between
our
code
and
that
state
statute.
B
Mary
yeah
I
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
getting
some
data
back
to
me.
That
I
had
asked
about
I
mentioned
at
our
last
meeting
that
I
just
wasn't
seeing
the
parking
spaces
being
used
as
often
as
we
would
like
so
I
went
back
and
our
staff
went
back
and
got
that
data
for
me.
So
since
the
unit's
came
online,
which
was
last
March
and
last
June
we're
actually
tracking
the
charging
sessions
which
are
charging
session
is
just
when
one
person
parks
in
the
spot
and
uses
the
charger.
B
So
just
some
data
to
back
up,
not
seeing
them
being
used
and
keep
in
mind.
A
few
of
these
have
been
open
for
a
year
now,
City
Hall
has
only
had
45
charging
Sessions
Court
Street
has
had
180
charging
sessions,
and
the
splash
park
has
only
had
charging
stations.
So
that's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind.
Moving
forward.
F
L
A
A
Next
is
item
number
10.
Is
the
resolution
2020
2
0
4?
This
is
the
application
19
1
6
to
7
condition
of
use
for
short-term
residential
rental
for
6
or
9
Hope
Street
item
number
10
and
number
11
now
quasi-judicial.
The
city
attorney
will
read
the
titles
and
it
will
explain
the
quasi
judicial
process.
Yes,.
N
Resolution
2020
0
for
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
approving
application,
19
167,
requesting
contingent
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
the
operation
of
a
seasonal,
short-term,
residential
rental
at
609,
Hope
Street,
located
on
the
west
side
of
Hope
Street
between
Hill
Street
and
cross
street
in
the
t4a
district
of
the
special
area
plan
providing
for
findings
providing
for
conditions
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
That
was
a
reading
of
resolution
number
2020
0
for
by
title.
Only
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
the
quasi
judicial
procedures.
N
N
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
to
make
by
law,
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings.
In
fact,
the
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
N
If
the
competent
substantial
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
With
that
being
said,
that's
gonna
speak
on
this
item.
Number
10.
N
O
F
P
Good
evening
Lois
Lerner
presenting
staff
comments,
this
is
a
request
for
conditional
use
approval
to
operate
a
seasonal,
short-term
rental
of
an
existing
single-family
residence
located
at
609
Hope
Street.
It
is
in
the
t4a
district
of
the
special
area
plan
staff
has
reviewed
the
request
for
compliance
with
the
standards
of
review
for
conditional
uses
of
the
land
development
code,
and
we
find
that
it
does
meet
the
standards.
I
won't
go
through
all
the
standards,
but
I'll
hit
the
highlights
of
it.
P
The
property
is
in
the
sponge.
Sponge
docks
character,
district
of
the
city
special
area
plan.
This
is
an
area
that
encourages
activity
of
a
mixed
and
a
mix
of
uses.
The
pro
the
proposed
use
meets
the
definition
of
a
seasonal,
short-term
rental
and
is
located
close
to
the
Sponge
Docks
tourist
oriented
area,
so
primarily
because
of
its
location,
and,
what's
surrounding
it,
we
do
find
that
this
doesn't
meet
the
criteria
of
the
code.
P
P
A
B
N
B
J
J
J
Where
people
can,
you
know,
walk
to
walk
and
eat
and
take
advantage
of
all
the
things
that
we
have
to
offer
so
we're
seeing
it
more
and
more
and
I
think
that
it's
possibly
making
the
areas
in
town
where
we
have
legal
zoning
or
zoning
through
conditional
use
for
these
Airbnb
zits
I
believe
it's
making
it
more
valuable
as
it
relates
to
that.
So
it's
encouraging
for
me
to
see,
and
also
this
application
right
so.
N
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
John
Corliss
and
I
am
the
applicant
and
the
owner
of
the
home
at
609,
Hope
Street
I
just
wanted
to
come
in
and
say
I'm
thrilled
to
be
here
in
Tarpon,
Springs
I'm
a
transplant
from
Denver
and
I
just
have
fallen
in
love
with
tarpon
springs.
I
never
knew
it
was
on
the
map
until
I
kind
of
just
happenstance
to
found
this
home.
So
it's
a
great
great
property,
great
location
and
I'm
excited
to
be
able
to
offer
it
in
to
transient
vacationers.
A
N
Okay.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
now
is
the
opportunity
for
anybody
in
the
public
wish
to
step
forward
and
make
comment
or
a
presentation.
Please
do
so
now
now
there
being
none
is
the
does
the
city
want
to
make
any
type
of
closing
argument,
and
specifically,
are
you
interested
in
tendering
into
evidence
of
staff
report.
A
L
A
N
Commissioners
resolution
2020
0
5
resolution
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
approving
application,
19
109,
requesting
a
conditional
use,
permit
and
associated
site
plan
to
allow
for
establishment
of
a
surface
parking
lot
on
0.15
acres
of
land
located
on
the
north
side
of
Hill
Street
between
Hope
Street
and
Roosevelt
Boulevard,
and
the
t5c
dodecanese
Avenue
Main
Street,
transact
district,
providing
for
findings
providing
for
conditions
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
There
was
a
reading
of
resolution,
20
2005
by
title
only
anyone!
N
That's
wishing
to
speak
on
this
particular
item
other
than
staff
who's
already
been
sworn
in.
If
you'd
stand
up,
raise
your
right
hand
and
be
sworn
under
oath.
If
you
have
to
make
any
type
of
presentation,
you
swear
that
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
is
going
to
be
the
truth.
The
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
Thank
You
staff
presentation,
please.
P
Yes,
as
the
resolution
states,
this
is
a
conditional
use
approval
for
a
permanent
surface
parking
lot.
The
property
is
located
on
the
on
the
north
side
of
Hill
Street
between
Hope
Street
and
Roosevelt
Boulevard.
This
property
is
in
the
t5c
district
staff
has
reviewed
this
again
for
the
standards
of
review
for
the
conditional
use
that
are
in
the
Klan
development
code,
and
our
findings
are
in
the
staff
report
again
I'll
just
hit
the
highlights.
This
is
in
the
Sponge
Docks
characteristic
district
of
the
spitty
City
special
area
plan,
like
the
other
one.
P
This
is
the
tourist
oriented
commercial
area,
it
encourages
activity,
commercial
activities
and
a
mixture
of
uses.
The
general
area
is
occupied
mainly
by
commercial
development
and
waterfront
uses.
There
are
also
multiple
private
parking
lots
designated
to
accommodate
tourists
in
this
area.
Again,
that
is
primarily
because
of
the
location
factors
and
the
proposed
use
the
staff
finding
is
that
the
request
does
meet
the
standards
of
the
conditional
use
approval.
P
One,
the
an
engineer
certification
of
the
existing
retaining
wall
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
Slash
parking
lot
shall
be
submitted
attesting
to
the
walls,
structural
integrity,
to
support
the
existing
fill
and
proposed
permanent
parking
lot
use
to
the
applicant.
Shall
supply
and
updated
letter
of
exemption
from
the
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District
for
the
use
of
the
proposed
year
textile
parking
surface
three
striping
shall
be
is
installed
across
the
entrance
exit
driveway
to
mark
crosswalk
access
connecting
to
the
existing
walk.
P
This
delineation
shall
be
shown
on
the
final
set
of
plans
submitted
for
building
permit
for
the
developers
responsible
for
acquiring
all
jurisdictional
permits
and
for
meeting
the
minimum
criteria
of
the
land
development
code
and
five.
The
construction
plans
shall
be
consistent
with
the
site
plan.
All
requisite
fees
attended
to
the
project
shall
be
paid
in
accordance
with
the
land
development
code.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
heard
this
item
On
February
24th.
There
was
one
member
of
the
public
who
spoke
regarding
the
application
that
that
information
is
in
your
packets.
P
L
P
L
Q
At
McNeese
principal
planner,
the
way
we
looked
at
this
commissioner
car
the
transit
code
landscaping
requirements
are
fairly
minimal.
As
you
might
know,
so,
the
one
tree
satisfies
the
transect
code.
The
transect
code
also
requires
a
three
and
a
half
to
eight
foot
screen
of
parking
planning.
We
recommended
that
that
might
be
an
issue
in
this
area
because
of
the
sidewalk
heavy
pedestrian
traffic,
but
we
could
ask
the
applicant
but
I'm
sure
if
there's
some
sort
of
screening
that
you'd
like
for
the
parking
that
we
can,
we
can
work
something
out
of
screaming
yeah.
L
Just
on
the
I
mean
on
the
Southside
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
lights.
I
mean
it's
ironic,
that's
the
same
house
that
we
just
approved
for
a
short-term
rentals
like
right
in
the
backyard
of
this.
But
if
you
were
to
pull
out
with
your
lights
on
at
night,
it
would
go
like
right
in
their
backyard.
So
that's
that's
a
concern
I
have
because
of
the
residential
area
right
next
door.
Basically,
so
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
that
Southside.
L
Q
N
R
Brett
craftsman,
five
five
four
bay
would
drive
north
I'm,
the
engineer
record
for
the
project.
Okay,
if
you
got
any
questions
for
me,
I'm
here
you're
talking
about
a
retaining
wall
that
retaining
wall
the
base
of
the
wall
is
five
point.
Six.
The
top
of
the
wall
is
six
point
two.
So
this
wall
is
one
row
of
concrete
blocks
this
high.
So
don't
go
thinking
that
there's
some
massive
wall.
It's
one
row
of
concrete
blocks,
it's
three
foot
onto
the
property.
R
N
A
R
We're
doing
a
grass
parking
lot.
So
it's
the
same
thing:
it's
there.
Grass
grass
we're
doing
a
stable,
a
geoweb
stabilization,
underneath
the
grass
so
it'll
be
a
be
able
to
hold
a
firetruck.
Essentially
so
we're
gonna
lay
that
down
then
put
the
grass
overtop,
but
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
have
a
concrete
curb
around
it,
so
the
water
will
actually
be
caught
by
that
curb
and
be
allowed
and
percolate
in
the.
R
A
R
F
L
F
R
I
know
the
area
very
well
yeah,
you
were
looking
at
a
60
foot,
wide
piece
of
property
and
people
are
taking
the
wall
all
the
way
down
the
alley,
we're
only
looking
at
a
60
foot
wide
piece.
That's
that
the
Topa
or
the
topographic
survey
from
the
surveyor
has
one
course
a
block
that
is
seven
tenths
of
a
foot
high.
Okay,.
A
A
L
L
R
They're,
coming
in
and
they're
turning
away
from
the
house,
you're
there's
they're
turning
away
from
the
house,
they're,
not
turning
headlights
up
into
the
house
they're
turning
away.
But
again
this
is
a
pretty
much
a
daytime.
You
slot
this
we're
not
gonna
have
parking
there
at
night
there's
plenty
of
lots
that
are
much
closer.
If
you
know
for
nighttime,
you.
L
L
L
L
L
R
Not
gonna
be
effective
because
when
you
back
out
you're
gonna
back
out
into
the
drive
aisle
and
that
drive
aisle
you
can't
put
foliage
across
so
whatever
they're
driving
in
those
lights
are
gonna
go
and
that's
the
case
for
any
driveway
any
parking
lot.
You
know
we
can't
put
trees
across
every
driveway
just
to
block
lights,
so.
F
L
Okay,
so
I
appreciate
the
comment,
but
as
a
statement,
you've
got
lights
going
south
you've
got
lights
going
west
and
you
have
lights
coming
back
going
north.
So
it's
every
direction
but
east
in
this
statement.
So
almost
every
direction
but
east.
So
with
that
I
really
think
it.
It
should
have
some
type
of
30
at
least
36
inches.
All
the
way
around
this
piece
of
property,
like
every
other
parking
lot
in
our
city,
does
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
staff,
the
library
a
little
bit
further.
Now
that
understand
the
direction
of
the
parking
lot.
N
N
P
In
regard
to
the
landscaping
it
that
the
standards
are
a
bit
different
in
the
transect
code,
because
it's
an
infill
type
code-
and
it
does,
it
has
been
reviewed
for
that
compliance
with
those
standards
and
it
does
meet
the
standards
which
is
a
little
different
with
the
hedging
and
all
that.
So
it
will
work
with
the
applicant
on
that.
But
you
know,
based
on
our
review
of
the
transect,
that
it's
in
it
does
meet
the
minimum
standards.
Okay,.
N
Other
questions
of
staff,
then
it
now
is
the
opportunity
for
anybody
in
the
public
that
wishes
to
address
this
issue
to
step
forward.
Anyone
wishing
to
address
this
application
there
being
none
the
city
have
any
closing
statement.
They
want
to
make
miss
McNeese,
mister,
sir.
No
specifically,
whether
or
not
you
want
to
add
your
staff
report
into
evidence.
Yes,.
N
L
L
A
L
L
L
A
P
Good
evening
this
item
went
to
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
on
January
13th.
The
applicant
is
requesting
appeal
of
the
decision,
the
applicants,
the
decision
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
at
that
time
was
they
reviewed
and
denied
the
request
for
a
certificate
of
approval.
The
applicant
has
provided
a
basis
for
the
appeal
which
is
included
in
your
packets.
It
includes
in
letters
from
an
engineer
and
contractor
indicating
that
rehabilitation
of
the
structure
is
not
feasible.
P
A
N
S
My
name
is
John
Cooley,
honest,
my
wife
and
I
live
on
1020
Peninsula
Avenue,
we
owned
the
property
located
at
220,
Orange
Street,
our
attorney
Mike
dress,
is
here
to
speak
as
needed.
An
affidavit
was
submitted
as
such.
My
wife,
Kay
and
I
purchased
the
land
and
structure
behind
our
ring
Avenue
office
in
mid-2004.
The
structure
was
uninhabitable
at
the
time
of
the
purchase
and
remained
vacant,
since
we
do
not
have
a
use
for
it.
I
was
approached
in
2006
by
officer
ed
Hayden
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Police
Department,
about
demolishing
the
structure.
E
S
Was
implementing
the
use
of
state
grant
money
to
demolish
dilapidated
buildings
in
our
town,
several
factors,
mostly
programmatic,
as
we
understood
it,
caused
our
demolition
to
be
pushed
back
considerably
and
state
funds
dried
up.
As
the
recession
arrived
in
2008
we've
kept,
the
structure
boarded
up
ever
since
I
was
cited
by
code
enforcement
this
past
summer
for
the
condition
of
the
structure.
The
code
enforcement
personnel
referred
me
to
Karen,
lemons
and
and
and
staff
at
City
Planning,
with
their
guidance,
I
contracted
a
structural
engineer,
a
general
contractor
and
pest
control
company
to
evaluate
the
structural.
S
All
the
findings
should
have
been
provided
to
you
by
city
staff.
It
is
clear
upon
reading
the
professional
reports
that
the
building
is
beyond
repair.
Furthermore,
on
October
18
2009,
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
condemned
the
structure.
The
notice
of
unsafe
structure
issued
by
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
code
enforcement
departments,
corrective
action.
States
quote.
S
Quote
the
structure
must
be
demolished
through
the
proper
permitting
process
on
January,
8th,
2020
I
received
the
staff
report
from
the
city
with
the
following
recommendations.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
application
for
complete
demolition
and
removal
of
the
contributing
structure.
However,
we
received
a
revised
report:
On
January
10th
with
the
same
date
January
8th,
dating
the
revised
Commission.
S
The
revised
recommendation,
that
was,
that
quote,
the
staff,
recommends
that
The
Heretic
Preservation
Board
consider
all
evidence
as
presented
in
this
packet
and
the
hearing
to
inform
their
decision
regarding
the
complete
demolition
and
removing
of
the
contributing
structure.
This
directly
contradicts
the
notice
of
unsafe
structure
from
the
city,
whereby
the
the
building
development,
director
and
chief
building
officer,
writes
quote,
structure
is
uninhabitable
and
irreparable
structure
must
be
must
be
demolished
through
the
proper
permitting
process.
S
We
were
instructed
that
we
must
go
before
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board.
The
meeting
was
on
January
13th,
resulting
in
their
denial
of
our
request
to
demolish
the
structure.
Our
appeal
before
this
board
is
based
upon
our
assertion
that
the
HPB
did
not
properly
apply
the
law.
In
this
case,
article
7
paragraph
1,
10
B
of
the
demolition
section
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
code
states
that
the
board
must
consider
the
all
the
following
criteria:
1,
the
historic,
architectural
and
cultural
significance
of
the
building
or
structure
the
app
may
be.
S
The
structure
has
not
been
used
in
any
form
or
fashion
within
the
sponge
industry
of
Tarpon
Springs
for
more
than
50
years.
Furthermore,
is
not
located
in
the
sponge
dock.
The
Cindy,
where
the
majority
of
sponging
industry
was
located
and
thus
does
not
follow
the
pattern
of
land
use
of
the
downtown
area.
S
The
building
is
structurally
unstable
and
visibly
unattractive
and
does
not
contribute
to
ambiance
of
a
thriving,
energetic,
downtown
community
envisioned
by
the
city
planners
3,
the
difficulty
or
impossibility
of
replicating
such
a
building
or
structure
because
of
its
design,
texture,
material,
detail
or
unique
location.
The
city's
staff
analysis
states
quote
the
building
itself,
is
a
fairly
simple
frame.
Vernacular
structure
consisting
of
wood,
material,
corrugated,
metal
roof
and
a
concrete
block
foundation.
The
design
and
detail
can
be
easily
replicated
at
almost
any
location.
S
That's
staff
saying
that
for
whether
the
building
or
structure
is
one
of
the
last
remaining
examples
of
its
kind
in
the
district
or
in
the
city,
there
are
six
other
structures
previously
used
as
sponge
packing
warehouses
within
a
one
point,
two
five
mile
radius
of
the
center
of
town
using
st.
Nicholas.
As
that
Center.
F
S
The
future
utilization
of
the
site
or
a
group
occupancy
of
the
structure,
the
property
is
in
eighty
four:
a
trance
transect
district
of
the
city's
special
area
plan,
si
P
city
staff
and
emic
economic
development
departments
are
encouraging
multi-use,
retail
and
residential
buildings
in
the
area
of
downtown.
This
dilapidated
and
blighted
structure
only
hinders
such
opportunities
for
this
and
the
adjacent
properties.
S
Six,
whether
reasonable
measures
can
be
taken
to
save
the
building
structure
or
traditional
cultural
property.
The
city
of
tarpon
springs
staff
report
dated
January,
eighth
2020
response
to
this
point
stated
quote:
the
applicant
has
submitted
an
engineer's
report
and
the
statement
from
a
building
contractor
that
outlined
the
basic
issues
with
this
building.
Both
the
engineer
and
the
contractor
have
rendered
professional
opinions
advising
the
demolition
of
the
structure
in
lieu
of
any
attempt
to
rehabilitate
it.
S
The
structure
was
condemned
was
condemned
by
the
city's
chief
building
official
Kevin
Powell
in
October
2000
nineteen,
based
on
the
submit
all
of
these
three
written
spirt
opinions.
It
is
concluded
that
the
building
is
beyond
repair
and
there
are
no
reasonable
measures
that
can
be
taken
to
save
it.
In
quote
again,
that's
city
staff,
seven,
whether.
S
Structure
or
traditional
cultural
property
is
capable
of
earning
a
reasonable
economic
return
on
its
value
and
whether
the
perpetuation
of
the
building
or
structure,
considering
its
physical
condition,
its
location
and
anticipated
expensive
rehabilitation
would
be
economically
feasible.
The
city
staff
report
dated
January
8
2020
states
quote
rehabilitation
is
not
feasible.
It's
not
a
feasible
option
due
to
the
instability
of
the
building.
S
Unquote
quote
again.
This
compilation
of
evidence
supports
the
conclusion
that
the
rehabilitation
of
the
building
is
not
economically
or
even
or
even
physically,
feasible.
Again,
that's
coming
from
staff
and
it's
coming
from
the
city
staff
report.
We
contend
that
we
contend
that
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
did
not
properly
apply
the
elements
of
article
7,
paragraph
1,
10
B
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
guidelines.
S
In
addition
to
the
above
evidence
of
the
structural
safety
hazard,
this
structure
has
become
an
attractive
nuisance
to
the
surrounding
community
due
to
the
increased
number
of
homeless
people
in
the
in
the
downtown
area.
Despite
our
constant
boarding
up
of
all
points
of
entry
and
posting
of
no
trespassing
signs,
vagrants
have
repeatedly
broken
into
the
structure
as
a
temporary
accommodation,
shelter,
drugs
and
alcohol
have
been
consumed
on
the
property
as
well.
My
wife
and
I
pick
up
empty
beer
and
alcohol
containers
on
the
property
on
a
regular
basis.
S
S
Chased
off
vagrants
we
found
urinating
and
defecating
around
the
property.
The
fire
department
was
deployed
as
vagrants
set
a
bonfire
at
that
at
night
that
caught
trees
on
fire
on
the
property
beyond
the
structural
dilapidation
of
this
building,
the
overall
safety
of
the
area
will
be
enhanced
by
the
removal
of
this
structure.
I'm
sure
chief
Cochin
could
more
intelligently
speak
on
this
problem.
S
F
S
Been
put
in
an
untenable
situation
by
the
city,
the
city
has
condemned
the
building
that
also
deems
the
structure
uninsurable
and
furthermore,
as
citizen
I
question
whether
the
city
now
enjoined,
it
is
enjoined
by
liability
if
anyone
were
to
be
injured
on
the
structural
it
injured
by
the
structural
instability
of
this
property,
since
they
have
demanded
its
demolition
by
one
department
and
are
preventing
us
from
following
its
directive
by
another
city
entity.
In.
S
S
J
Mayor
that
it's
I've
always
found
it
difficult
to
talk
out
of
both
sides
of
my
mouth
and
I.
Think
in
this
circumstance
being
that
we're
saying
that's
condemned
and
unsafe,
that
needs
to
be
knocked
down.
I
think
we
should
grant
them
an
approval
to
knock
it
down.
Okay,
I
understand
that
it's
historically
significant
you
know,
but
at
a
certain
point,
once
the
building's
gone
too
long,
it's
going
to
long
yeah.
B
Thank
You
mayor
just
echo
a
couple
of
the
points
in
our
backup
for
the
public.
It's
saying
that
the
building
is
beyond
repair
and
there
are
no
reasonable
measures
that
can
be
taken
to
save
it
and
that
the
structure
must
be
demolished
through
the
proper
permitting
process,
because
it's
uninhabitable
and
irreparable
I
would
assume-
and
this
is
I
guess-
a
question
for
staff-
just
that.
That
also
means
that
the
building
could
not
be
moved
I'm.
B
Assuming
if
all
of
these
official
engineer
reports
and
contractor
reports
say
that
the
building
needs
to
be
torn
down,
because
the
structure
is
so
bad
and
that
also
means
that
the
structure
cannot
be
moved
because
I
know
that
had
been
mentioned.
I
think
from
the
for
the
past
board
meeting
and
then
also
to
echo
I
think
as
a
responsibility
that
our
board
has,
because
we
hate
to
see
a
piece
of
history
go
because
once
that
happens,
you
know
it's
gone
forever.
So
how
can
we
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen
again?
B
B
You
know
biannually
or
something
like
that
and
just
make
sure
that
there's
there's
nothing
that
they
need
to
maintain
the
property
and
I
understand
that
this
building
was
in
bad
condition
when
it
was
bought
in
2004,
so
I'm
not
putting
any
of
them
on
the
current
property
owner
for
this
I'm.
Just
saying,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
another
one
of
these
in
the
future.
So
again,
I
think
it'd
be
prudent
if
we
got
with
staff,
maybe
develop
some
type
of
relationship
with
our
other
sponge
warehouse
owners
just
to
see
hey.
L
L
Yeah
and
mr.
Cooley
honest
thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
This
is,
has
nothing
to
do
against
you
and
your
wife
I'm
just
frustrated
as
a
city
I
think
we
let
our
residents
down
the
situation.
This
is
a
piece
of
history
for
our
Greek
heritage
on
our
sponging
industry
that
has
been
part
of
our
community
for
many
many
years.
L
L
So
that's
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
in
the
situation
is.
We
need
to
be
more
proactive
on
the
code
enforcement
side
on
these
types
of
buildings,
from
a
proactive
approach
when
we're
seeing
these
buildings,
because
with
losing
more
and
more
historic
buildings
on
historic
districts.
At
some
point,
our
historic
district
doesn't
become
a
historic
district
anymore
because
of
neglect
of
the
buildings,
and
then
at
that
point
you
get
to
tear
them
down
because
it's
too
expensive
to
replace
them
or
I'm,
sorry
too
expensive
to
fix
them.
L
L
Though,
in
the
backup
that
I
feel
that-
and
this
is
a
formality,
in
my
opinion-
that
I
have
a
hard
time
supporting
it
tonight,
it
sounds
like
there's
potential
support
on
the
board
tonight
to
move
forward
with
this.
But
it
talks
about
the
engineer's
report:
how
it's
not
financially
I
forget
exactly
how
it's
phrased.
L
Something
to
do
with
financial,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
move
anything
forward
financially,
it's
too
expensive
to
fix,
but
there's
really
no
numbers
provided
for
me
to
make
that
decision
to
say:
yes,
that's
true,
it
is
a
historic
structure
and
then
number
five
I
think
was
another
and
then
that
number
five
is
there's
not
really
a
plan
for
the
site
other
than
using
a
zoning
district.
Again,
there's
nothing
against
you.
Mr.
Cooley,
honest
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
forward
and
sharing
some
of
this,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
see
what
the
plans
are.
L
S
You
can
do
this
and
put
your
fingers
through
the
wood,
okay,
I,
even
the
outside,
when
I'm
trying
to
board
it
up.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
one
of
your
remember
what
I
called
you
about
your
officer
that
did
a
I
know:
I'm
not
supposed
to
talk
to
staff
directly,
but
but
officer,
coach
and
one
of
his
officers
and
just
to
make
a
note.
I
served
on
the
police
pension
board
for
15
years,
I
served
chief
Lycoris
and
I've
served
chief
Scotian
and
I
was
proud
of
that.
S
S
The
nails
were
just
pop
right
out,
so
you
know:
I've
been
I've
been
called
by
several
people,
I
think
even
I
think
you
even
knew
Commissioner
had
called
my
office
and
asked
my
wife
like
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
property
and
I
appreciate
that
it
was
kind
of
like
an
open-ended
question
but
awkward
it
I
would
say
at
the
time.
But
you
know
you
know
what
my
real.
S
What
my
desire
was
is
is
one
of
the
reasons
I
didn't
tear
her
down
earlier
was
that
I'm
a
CPA
by
trade,
okay,
so
I'm
thinking
numbers
all
the
time
and
I
was
thinking
I'd
rather
tear
it
down.
When
I
was
going
to
develop
the
property
and
then
incorporate
those
costs
into
the
development
you
know,
I'd
like
to
build
and
I
spoke
to
Karen
about.
It
is
I
like
to
relocate
my
office
I'd
like
to
build
in
a
new
office.
S
Might
you
know
my
Oh
is
up
on
orange
and
ring
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
just
again
just
to
make
this
clear
about
I'm,
a
citizen
that
cares
about
this
town?
My
father
was
born
here
in
1915.
My
grandfather
came
here
in
1898,
so
I
go
back
just
like
the
tariff
auntie,
so
we
go
way
back.
It's
a
matter
of
fact.
Your
your
grandfather,
Abe
and
my
wife's
grandfather
whitey
were
best
buddies.
S
Okay,
so
I
care
about
the
town
and
I
love
it
and
I
want
to
see
it
be
good
and
and
when
I
bought,
the
property
I
bought
the
old
health
department
building
in
as
well-
and
you
see
where
I
converted
that
to
my
office
and
I,
think
I
was
even
given
some
kinda
accolades
from
city
staff
that
we
did
a
pretty
nice
job
of
fixing
up.
That
was
an
old,
dilapidated
building
as
well,
but
I
couldn't
do
anything
with
this.
S
With
that
old
warehouse
in
the
back,
it
was
just
too
bad,
so
you
know
I
I,
just
like
mr.
cocoa
lacus.
When
he,
when
he
prepared
all
that
property,
you
know
he
didn't
develop
it,
because
we
were
all
waiting
for
comps
to
come
up
in
town
right
so
that
we
could,
you
know,
spend
money
and
develop
the
property
and
and
get
good
rents
or
and
and
be
able
to
get
good
financing.
So
I
think
we're.
S
There
I
think
we're
there
and
I
was
talking
to
Karen
about
putting
retail
on
Sanford
Avenue,
putting
my
actually
moving
my
office
from
where
the,
where
is
now
into
an
office
on
on
on
the
side
of
orange
and
actually
putting
a
residence
above
it
and
my
wife
and
I
want
to
live
there.
So
we
want
to
be
part
of
that
of
that
urban
change
of
Tarpon.
So
but
that's
not
again,
remember
I
didn't
come
here
because
I
wanted
to
tear
the
building
down.
S
I
came
here
because
somebody
code
enforcement
came
after
me
and
then
I
got
a
condemnation
which
said:
I
must
demolish
the
building.
Okay,
so
you
could
see
the
the
awkward
kind
of
catch-22
situation
I'm
in
is
I
got
one
I
got
one
part
of
the
city
saying
you
must
tear
it
down.
I
got
this
other
part
of
said.
You
say
you
can't
tear
it
down
and
by
the
way,
if
you
don't
tear
it
down,
we're
gonna
find
you,
but
you
can't
tear
it
down.
L
S
Think
that
would
be
I.
President
I
think
that
would
be
ideal
and
I
have
enough.
I
have
enough
space
because
I
own
the
property
I
own
from
corner
to
corner
so
I
will
own
from
Safford
all
the
way
to
ring,
and
then
I
also,
all
the
way
up
to
my
next-door
neighbor
he's
right
on
the
property
line.
So
I
have
all
that
space
as
well.
So
there's
lots
of
opportunities
to
do
something
there
and
I'd
love
to
do
that.
F
L
Reiterate
the
staff
back
up
it
talks
about
the
beams
of
the
support
of
the
structure,
how
they're
fully
rotted
that
run
on
the
outside
of
the
building,
but
the
one
in
the
middle
is
partially
rotted
I
suppose
so,
can
you
touch
a
little
bit
more
about
the
dry
rot
and
what
that
looks
like
from
there?
It's.
L
S
You
know
and
again,
like
I
said
my
my
my
grandfather
was
Captain
George.
He
had
sponge
boats.
You
obviously
know
my
father,
okay
and
you
know
I
care
about
the
sponge
industry
as
much
as
any
of
you
all
do
and
I'd
love
to
keep
that
building.
I
have
no
intentions
of
it's
just
I,
just
can't
act
economically
and
you
have.
When
we
talked
about
the
economics.
I
have
a
report
in
there
from
a
contractor
who's.
You
know
brought
brought
her
over
and
she
said
she
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
I
asked
her.
S
A
Look
in
the
back
of
information
in
January
13
2020,
the
HPV
denied
the
request
to
turn
this
tourneys
building
down,
even
though
that
is
falling
down.
But
I
want
to
thank
the
board.
I
want
to
thank
the
Historical
Preservation
Board
for
doing
such
a
good
job
and
preserving
do
their
best
to
preserve
in
all
the
buildings,
the
historical
buildings
that
we
have
in
town.
A
This
property
is
also
has
an
active
coating
force.
In
the
case,
we
received
a
notice
from
the
building
department
that
it's
unsafe
structure
the
opinion
from
the
instruction
engineering
that
this
building
is
unfeasible
due
to
the
economic
and
safety
concerns,
and
the
contractor
says
that
this
building
is
not
feasible
to
to
the
instability
of
the
other
building.
A
I
like
to
know
actually
I
like
to
know
what
options
do
we
have?
Is
there
any
possibility
in
the
world
that
can
be
saved
is
any
way
they
can
actually
place
some
braces
that
it
can
be
relocated
to
do
for
place,
for
that
can
be
restored
to
place
where
we
can
save
our
out
heritage?
Looking
that
information
that
it
was
provided
to
us,
it
doesn't
look
like
that
we
did
and
commissioned
on
Evette.
You
had
a
very
valid
question:
what
we're
going
to
do
to
prevent
that
in
the
future
we
discussed
that
with
mr.
A
liquors
before
and
we
need
to
identify
all
the
sponge
warehouses
evaluate
their
condition
and
work
with
the
owners
to
make
sure
we
repair
this
building.
So
we
don't
have
to
face
that
again.
These
sponge
warehouse
is
so
important
to
our
heritage.
You
want
to
prevent
anything
like
that
to
happen
again.
It's
we,
it's
very
important
that
we
maintain
them
and
maintain
them
in
order
that
we
all
can
be
proud
of.
A
The
question
still
I
have
is:
is
this
builder
is
unbuildable?
Is
unrepaired?
Is
unsafe,
I
think
we
we
miss
the
you
know.
We
missed
a
good
opportunity
all
these
years
for
not
taking.
You
know
the
leadership
that
was
you
have
from
years
back
to
preserve
this
building.
So
I'll,
be
honest
with
you.
I
am
very
very
embarrassed
for
that.
I
I
need
a
protist
901,
Bayshore
Drive,
when
this
first
came
up.
I
spoke
to
try
to
preserve
it,
move
it.
How
many
of
you
went
down
there
to
see
this
sponge
packing
house
I
went
down
there,
it
I'm
surprised
it
hasn't
fallen.
I
grew
up
on
the
North
corner
of
orange
and
gross
I.
Remember
the
building.
I
touched
the
building
that
big
holes,
where
my
thumb
and
finger
went
through
the
wood.
I
I
The
only
saving
grace
we
have
now
is
to
take
photographs
of
it
and
I've
got
a
lady
going
to
take
pictures
I.
Remember
we
used
to
go
down
there
with
the
Sedonas
children
and
look
in
there
and
run
around,
but
not
anymore,
to
go
in
there
you're
going
to
fall
through
I'm
thankful
that
he
bought
it
when
he
did,
and
at
that
time
I
tried
to
get
help
in
a
grant.
I
For
our
house
on
Orange
Street,
because
that
was
the
first
hospital
in
for
tarpon
springs
where
my
husband
grew
up
and
we
couldn't
get
a
grant
to
preserve
the
house,
and
then
we
tried
with
mr.
Hayden
to
try
to
get
it
for
the
sponge
packing
and
we
couldn't
get
it.
But
now
we've
learned
a
lesson.
We
must
be
very
active
in
this
community
with
our
Historic
Preservation
Board
working
in
Tallahassee.
I
We
have
excellent
people
who
know
what
they're
doing
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
that
aren't
on
the
that's,
not
on
the
Historic
Preservation
Board,
but
they've
worked
in
Tallahassee.
We
need
to
work
as
a
city
to
start
going
after
grants
to
preserve
these
and
help
the
owners
of
these
packing
houses
and,
let's
save
them.
As
you
know,
I'm
up
here,
all
the
time
I've
got
the
plan
that
you're
going
to
talk
about
to
preserve
the
Bayou
with
what
I
would
think
we
should
do
with
it
and
we
need
to
preserve
what
we've
got
left.
I
I
Termite
written
it
is
I,
wouldn't
even
go
through
the
door
if
they
offered
to
take
me
in
there
anymore,
it's
gone
and
we
have
a
chance
now
to
do
something
with
what
we've
got
left
and
another
thing.
He
has
a
right
to
do
what
he
wants
with
his
property.
I
said
here
and
listens
like
I.
Just
get
stopped
Oh.
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
it?
That's
his
property.
He
has
a
right
to
do
whatever
he
wants
with
in
the
zoning
there
with
his
property.
I
We
cannot
mandate
what
he
does,
but
there
and
I
hear
this:
what
kind
of
plants
what
kind
of
trees
we
want
this?
That's
not
what
we're
here
for
we're
here
to
help
not
stand
like
a
guard
over
property
and
what
people
want
to
do.
I,
don't
care
for
that!
That's
like
blackmailing
up
here!
That's
wrong,
but
it's
you
know
for
me
to
say
the
building's
gone
and
how
I
like
to
preserve
historic
preservation.
His
building
is
gone
and
let
me
tell
you,
there's
some
real
old
termites
in
their
beers.
A
T
Name
is
Laura
Milford
and
I
reside
at
617,
Fair
Oaks
Drive
I
serve
on
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board,
as
the
current
chairman
and
I
understood
when
we
reviewed
this
case,
the
condition
of
the
building
and
his
experts.
What
we
had
really
wanted
to
see
was
a
30
day
or
a
60
day
time
period
to
take
one
more
expert.
Look
at
it
to
say:
we've
done
the
right
things
because,
as
you
all
know,
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
require
that
we
preserve
these
properties,
and
none
of
us
are
experts
on
that
property.
T
So
we
wanted
in
an
expert
opinion
from
other
than
their
experts.
I'm
not
saying
they're.
Experts
are
wrong.
I'm
saying
we
wanted
that
one
last
thing
so
that
when
the
Secretary
of
Standards,
the
Secretary
of
Interior
reviews
this
they're
going
to
say,
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
took
that
one
last
step
to
ensure
that
that
property
did
in
fact
need
to
come
down.
T
Our
report
that
we
were
received
from
the
city
said
that
this
is
one
of
four
remaining
properties
so
tonight,
when
this
board
overturns
the
Heritage
Preservation
decision
which,
if
it
had
done
the
30
days,
we
had
already
had
the
proof
now
tonight
and
it
could
have
already
been
done,
but
they
chose
to
have
us
vote
on
it.
We
voted
on
it
and
we
denied
it,
and
we
understand
that
you
have
the
right
to
overturn
that.
T
That's,
not
the
question,
but
I
do
wish
this
board
would
annually
send
out
mailers
to
all
whether
it's
commercial
or
residential
properties
in
the
historic
district
it
states.
This
is
the
guidelines.
This
is
what's
expected
of
you
when
you
own
a
property
in
a
historic
district
and
give
them
a
link
to
the
website,
given
whatever
data
you
need
annually,
so
that
anybody
moving
in
and
around
the
area,
that's
in
a
historic
district
is
gonna
know
who
they
have
to
go
to
what
the
processes,
because
this
is
not
first
property
that
has
been
demolition
by
neglect.
T
There
was
at
least
one
other
case.
Did
you
reviewed
and
yeah
actually
in
a
way
supported
what
we
said?
Because
the
one
thing
we
wanted
was
that
one
more
expert-
and
they
didn't
want
to
do
it
when
they
came
here-
you
ruled
that
they
needed
that
30-day
and
to
show
us
one
more
piece
of
information,
and
so
after
that,
then
you
did
mala
SH
that
one
and
we
would
have
done
the
same
thing
had
we
had
that
one
more
piece.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
that.
T
A
A
U
Costa
vatikiotis
538,
West,
Cedar
Street
I've,
been
in
the
packinghouse
a
long
time
ago,
I
think
maybe
about
10
or
15
years
ago.
I
was
actually
looking
for
a
Model
T
Ford.
That
I
was
sure
was
there
was
not.
It
was
in
bad
shape
there,
but
I
really
I
understand
what
everybody's
saying
but
I
think
mr.
Cooley
anise
is
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place.
If
you
ask
him,
would
he
prefer
to
have
the
the
warehouse
moved?
U
He
he'd
tell
you
yes,
because
it
would
save
him
thirty
thousand
dollars
or
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
the
demolition.
I
think
the
actual
estimates
twenty
two
thousand
dollars.
This
action
has
been
going
on
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
wanted
just
my
personal
knowledge
of
this.
Not
one
person
other
than
a
private
resident
has
approached
mr.
Cooley
honest
about
moving
the
warehouse.
Not
one
person
from
the
city
has
approached
him
about
maybe
working
something
out
and
I.
U
Think
one
of
the
reasons
we
get
ourselves
into
these
situations
is,
for
example,
one
side
of
the
city
staff
doesn't
talk
to
the
other.
The
code
enforcement
officer
issued
a
citation
on
this
started.
The
wheels
moving
got
mr.
Cooley
honest
before
the
code
enforcement
board.
Then
he
had
to
go
to
get
some
advice
from
staff
about
going
to
historic
preservation,
board.
I
guess
the
point
is
before
we
put
a
resident
in
a
situation
like
this,
where
there
is
no
option.
U
I
think
we
need
to
stop
and
think
that
we're
going
to
cite
a
stork
preservation
property
for
condemnation,
and
we
need
to
rethink
that
real
hard
before
we
do
that
and
maybe
get
city
staff
and
others
to
help
that
individual
understand
we're.
Where
you're
heading
on
this,
where
this
journey
is
going
to
take
you,
if
you
don't
do
anything
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem
and
I
do
know
that
the
Historic
Preservation
guidelines
are
going
to
be
discussed
at
a
workshop
in
the
future.
U
I
know,
I
think
somebody
brought
that
up
perhaps
from
the
Historic
Preservation
Board
about
putting
something
in
this
door.
Preservation
Board
guidelines
to
require
people
to
keep
up
their
properties,
I
understand
that
it's
a
complicated
matter
and
I'm
kind
of
looking
forward
to
getting
to
that
point.
But
I
think
we
can
talk
about
a
lot
of
things
of
what
we
should
have
done
with
mr.
Cooley,
honest,
but
I.
Think
all
of
that's
too
late
at
this
point,
I
think
we
put
him
in
this
situation
six
months
ago.
U
He
was
very,
very
happy
just
minding
his
own
business,
doing
his
work,
but
we
had
the
code
enforcement
next
step
was
condemning
the
building.
The
next
step
was
going
to
be
for
the
Historic
Preservation
Board
and
as
if
it
wasn't
for
the
city
staff,
or
at
least
those
responsible
for
intervening,
he'd
have
a
fine
running
today.
U
Fortunately,
that
was
state
until
this
whole
matter
got
resolved.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
Commission
for
that,
and
also
I
want
to
thank
the
Historic
Preservation
Board.
They
do
their
job.
That's
not
even
a
question,
but
we
put
them
in
these
situations
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
kind
of
rethink
this
whole
process
of
what
we
do
with
our
historic
properties.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
F
G
Where
are
you
gonna
move
it
to
you're
gonna.
Tell
mr.
Cooley
honest,
you
have
to
provide
another
property,
move,
a
dilapidated
building
to
are
you
wanting
to
provide
property
and
take
that
assumption
on
you?
That's
one
question
you
have
to
think
about.
Secondly,
it
was
mentioned
about
sending
out
notices
to
people
in
the
historic
district.
Well,
we.
F
G
Need
to
well,
you
can
look
at
the
definition
of
the
historic
district,
but
if
you
check
back
in
the
records
and
I'm
not
sure
if
patty
or
Karen
can
help,
but
years
ago,
we
got
a
grant
to
do
a
survey
and
we
have
a
list
of
properties
already
that
are
historic,
semi,
historic,
whole
historic
versus
contributing
structures.
That's
there.
So
if
you
have
concerns,
you've
got
a
list
of
where
you
can
start
focusing
on.
G
G
G
F
A
A
L
A
We're
not
going
to
end
end
item
number,
one
identify
item
number
one
is
reject
donation
of
Rock
and
that
item
was
actually
placed
on
the
agenda
by
me
since
then
we
received
actually
yesterday
afternoon,
we
receive
an
email
from
the
contractor
from
the
contractor,
with
the
suggestion
of
commission
Sieber
that
the
donation
has
been
withdraw.
So
therefore,
I
don't
think
we
need
any
discussion.
A
N
N
U
C
Tell
you
next
Tuesday
is
the
election.
The
polls
will
be
open
from
7:00
to
7:00
it's
too
late
to
ask
for
a
mail
ballot.
However,
early
voting
locations
are
open
at
3:00
supervisor
of
election
sites
and,
being
that,
it's
a
presidential
preference
primary.
If
you
do
have
a
mail
ballot
that
you
haven't
returned,
you
could
also
return
it.
Our
library
is
a
drop-off
location
and
the
times
that
you
can
drop
off
are
Monday
through
Friday
10:00
to
5:00
and
Saturday
10:00
to
4:00,
and
that
would
be
through
the
16th
Thank.
A
L
B
Thank
You
mayor
I
did
just
want
to
mention
that
there
is
a
workshop.
It's
an
update
of
National
Register,
local
historic
district
design,
review
guidelines
and
the
manual
and
hosted
by
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Heritage
Preservation,
Board,
Monday,
April
6
2020
at
6:30
p.m.
and
it's
right
here
in
this
room.
Just
a
heads
up
to
the
public.
A
Thank
you.
I
have
several
announcements
to
make
Saturday
and
Sunday
March
14
and
15.
We
have
the
Fine
Arts
Festival
at
the
craig
park
that
starts
on
saturday,
9
a.m.
and
on
Sunday
at
10
a.m.
Saturday
March
11th.
We
have
movies
in
a
park
at
actually
the
splash
park.
That's
been
no
be
given
by
the
Recreation
Department
Sunday
March
22nd.
A
We
also
discussed
projects
relating
to
the
sea-level
rise.
That's
the
House
bill
31
through
19
I'd,
like
to
report
to
you
that
the
House
bill
31
21
it's
on
the
right
track,
but
the
whole
amount
of
$112,000
that
we
need
was
not
appropriated,
but
Commissioner.
Excuse
me,
you
represent.
This
process
is
working
to
increase
the
number
that
we
need.
The
other
House
bill,
which
is
31:19,
was
not
voted,
and
but
we
will
be
working
with
representatives.
A
Our
representative
see
Tallahassee
senator
Hooper
and
representative
Sproles
and
also
represent
a
lot
valo,
who
has
been
very
a
lot
of
help
to
us
to
make
sure
that
we
get
funding
during
the
next
cycle.
All
selectin
I'd
like
to
tell
the
board
that
I
pay
for
all
these
expenses
out
of
my
pocket
when
I
went
off
to
tell
our
houses
so
with
that.
That
concludes
the
regular
session
meeting
and
it's
adjourned
at
8:08
p.m.
A
A
A
P
A
L
O
V
Lemons
economic
development
manager
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
to
present
the
annual
report.
State
statutes
require
series
to
provide
annually
in
March
reporting
of
activities
from
that
fiscal
year,
along
with
the
financial
statement.
So
this
is
the
report
from
FY
19,
which
covers
October
of
2018
to
September
of
2019
just
for
a
little
background.
I
think
you're
all
familiar
with
our
CRA,
but
it
was
created
in
2001
sunsets
in
2030.
Right
now,
the
county
is
looking
at
its
rules
and
procedures
regarding
CRA
s,
but
right
now
we
could
request
a
20-year
extension.
V
If
we
would
want
to.
The
goal
is
obviously
to
stimulate
revitalization
in
the
in
the
mood
in
the
CRA
by
in
reinvesting
the
property
tax,
increment
dollars
into
the
CRA
and
creating
an
attraction
for
private
and
and
and
then
over,
the
life
of
the
CRA.
To
date,
the
taxable
municipal
values
have
increased
an
average
of
about
five
percent
per
year.
V
We've
had
a
lot
of
activity
within
the
CRA
we've
had
several
business
openings,
we've
had
a
few
closings
and
we've
had
some
relocations
and
expansions
as
nice.
It
is
to
attract
new
businesses,
the
relocations
and
the
expansions
are
really
important
and
shows
that
we
have
a
robust
business
community
and
climate
when
a
business
can
expand
and
when
it
chooses
to
relocate
and
stay
within
the
city,
we've
got
several
new
business
openings.
Most
of
them
are
restaurants
as
a
new
wine
bar
a
new
brewery
which
will
make
five
now
within
the
CRA.
V
V
The
facade
improvement
grant
started
in
2011,
that's
a
50%
reimbursement
up
to
10,000
or
15,000,
depending
on
the
number
of
stories
of
the
building
we
have
approved
to
date,
71
grams
and
then
in
2015
we
began
a
restaurant
recruitment
grant
and
that's
when
we
were
trying
to
revitalize
the
downtown
and
trying
to
attract
new
restaurants
and
nighttime
foot
traffic
and
trying
to
look
at
some
of
those
retail
buildings
and
repurpose
them
into
restaurants.
So,
since
that
time
we
have
given
out
16
of
those
grands
and.
F
V
V
V
The
cultural
centers
you
know
was
under
restoration
and
then
we've
been
discussing
a
lot
of
beautification
and
signage
within
the
CRA.
We've
got
the
historic
street
signs
and
that
there
was
some
talk
earlier
with
HPV.
That
really
came
up
from
the
Historic
Preservation
Board.
When
they
were
talking
about
do
people
know
they
live
in
a
historic
district,
and
how
can
we
notify
them?
And
this
was
one
of
the
ways
we
came
up
with
as
having
these
street
signs.
So
people
would
know
this
is
a
different
area
and
you
live
in
a
historic
district.
V
Now
the
wayfinding
signs
which
were
approved
earlier
and
we're
getting
ready
for
the
bid
specifications
for
those,
the
historic
building,
plaques
and
the
historic
markers
those
are
out,
we're
looking
for
resident
feedback
on
the
text
and
once
we
finalize
that
we'll
be
putting
those
plaques
on
the
downtown
buildings
and
going
the
state
for
the
historic
markers
and
then
we've
got
a
lot
of
new
lighting
downtown.
This
is
hibiscus
Avenue,
where
there's
new
lights
on
mirrors
I
know,
there's
additional
projects
underway
for
lighting
in
the
downtown
area
and
residentially.
These
are
the
orange
street
residences.
V
Two
single-family
homes
that
went
up
across
from
Tarpon
tavern,
one
of
them
has
been
sold.
It
was
mentioned
earlier
about
property
values
in
this
area.
How
we're
trying
to
increase
those
property
values
to
incentivize
additional
redevelopment?
So
the
fact
that
this
residents
sold
for
the
price
that
it
did
is
good
for
our
local
developers,
the
plain
Street
Apartments.
These
are
just
north
on
Stafford
Avenue,
two
buildings
again
on
the
Pinellas
Trail.
As
you
see
we're
filling
in
along
the
trail
with
that
linkage
from
the
Sponge
Docks
to
downtown
and
then
our
commercial
projects.
V
This
is
a
lemon
street
trade
center.
This
has
had
some
challenges.
It's
still
not
completed,
but
once
it
does
get
complete
eventually,
it
will
provide
some
new
jobs
in
the
area
and
walking
distance
to
our
downtown
Sanford
Avenue
and
Centre
Street.
This
is
201
East
Center
again
along
the
Pinellas
Trail.
This
is
a
former
warehouse
building
that
was
recently
completely
renovated
to
a
new,
modern
and
industrial.
Looking
building
they've
attracted
a
great
tenant
who's,
a
world-renowned
artist
from
st.
Petersburg
who
moved
here
we're
working
with
them
were
working
at
the
owner.
V
He
has
a
vision
for
what
types
of
tenants
he
would
like
to
see
in
that
building
and
we're
working
to
get
a
good
synergy
of
tenants
that
will
really
add
to
the
diversity
of
downtown
and
provide
a
place
that
people
want
to
come
and
congregate,
and
then
our
festivals
and
events
continue
happening
in
the
downtown
area.
Obviously,
the
first
Friday
is
our
most
popular
most
successful
snow
place
and
the
arts
and
crafts,
festivals
and
they've
been
trying
over
the
years
to
have
some
of
the
festival's
move
off
of
the
up
Tarpon
Avenue
to
relieve
traffic.
V
They
are
moving
on
to
Court,
Street
or
Orange
Street
and
then
future
and
ongoing
projects
we're
working
on
a
Business
Survey
of
business
owners
and
property
owners
that
will
be
online
and
also
I
have
a
high
school
intern.
That's
working
with
me
he's
been
staying.
He's
been
with
me
since
the
high
school
internship
program
in
the
summer
and
we're
working
on
a
survey
of
high
school
students
to
see
what
they,
what
their
thoughts
are
of
the
city
and
what
kind
of
businesses
they
do.
Well,
they
may
be.
V
If
they're
going
away
to
college,
will
they
come
back
so
I
think
it
would
be
really
great
to
get
a
youth
perspective
of
what
they
think
about
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
then
West
tarpon
Avenue.
Obviously
these
are
the
properties
at
the
West
End,
the
one
that's
owned
by
the
CRA
and
the
to
private
parcels
and
you'll
hear
about
those
later.
V
The
downtown
vacant
lot.
I
think
we'd
be
talking
a
little
bit
later
about
a
process.
We
do
have
two
redevelopment
proposals,
so
that's
another
good
sign,
downtown
parking
we've
been
looking
at
parking
needs
addressing
a
future
parking
garage.
I
have
reached
out
to
both
Sun
Trust
Bank
and
Wells
Fargo.
They
were
both
very
appreciative
of
being
contacted.
V
They
said
the
only
issues
they
really
have
are
on
First
Fridays,
and
they
really
only
asked
for
us
to
help
clean
up
the
parking
lots
they
plan
on
keeping
those
lots
open.
They
said
they
don't
tow
cars,
they
both
are
invested
in
the
city
and
in
downtown
and
they're.
Looking
forward
to
our
future
needs
for
parking
in
a
future
parking
garage,
but
they
were
very
receptive
to
us
reaching
out
for
them
and
then
the
Manatee
Plaza
I
think
this
was
brought
up
earlier
as
well.
V
V
So
obviously
we
have
a
lot
ongoing.
We
have
a
lot
more
to
do,
but
we
really
come
a
long
way
in
the
last
several
years.
You
know:
we've
attracted
ten
new
restaurants.
We've
got
five
breweries.
Now,
a
sixth
on
the
on
the
docks.
We
have
a
new
craft
distillery
that
again,
referring
back
to
the
HPP,
was
an
old
sponge
warehouse,
so
that
was
our
first
repurpose
of
a
sponge
warehouse
into
a
really
good
business,
so
we're
moving
forward.
The
CRA
merchants
are
are
excellent
to
work
with
they
support
each
other.
V
They
do
a
lot
of
cross
marketing,
co-op
programs
together.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
continuing
our
progress
and
thank
you
for
all
for
your
support
and
and
your
guidance
as
we
move
forward.
So
with
that,
if
you
have
any
questions,
oh
one
thing:
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
thank
you
to
kyriakos
backless,
who
is
my
student
intern
from
Tarpon
high.
He
took
a
lot
of
the
pictures
here,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
him
up
a
kudos
for
that.
Thank.
A
You,
okay
yeah.
It
was
a
good
guy,
very
good,
guy,
there's
levels.
Thank
you
for
the
report.
Congratulations
on!
You
are
accomplishments.
You
know
this
is
really
a
good
information
that
you're
providing
with
us
tonight.
I'm
just
surprised
that
I
haven't
seen
any
members
from
our
business
community
to
be
get
an
idea
to
look
at
all
this
information
that
will
be
so
useful
to
them.
A
This.
This
annual
report
covers,
as
you
said,
he
covers
activities
and
financial
statements
from
October
1st
2018
to
September
30th
2019.
That
was
five
months
ago,
where
that
report
is
that
going
to
the
talent
out
to
the
state
as
well.
It
goes
to
the
county
goes
to
the
county.
When
did
you
have
to
submit
that
by
the
end
of
March?
Okay?
So
so
you
have
five
months
to
do
its
31st.
Okay.
A
Thank
you,
I'm,
very
glad
that
we
were
able
to
provide
71,
see
ras
facade,
improvement
grants
and
16
grants
for
restaurant
improvements
is
any
possibility
that
can
we
get
the
names
and
the
amount
of
money
that
were
actually
you
know
gave
the
god.
Yes,
if
you
would
please
that
way,
we
have
that
information,
because
a
lot
of
times
people
asking
about
it,
so
we
can
actually
show
how
much
money
that
it
were
and
what
kind
of
a
financial
help
were
able
to
provide.
A
We
were
able
to
provide
parking
in
two
areas.
The
ring
Avenue
and
Court
Street,
but
we
still
need
to
have
a
parking
garage,
is
something
that
we
must
start
looking
more
effective,
more
actively.
I
know
mr.
Lee
Curtis
and
I.
We
went
to
a
couple
places
and
we
saw
the
property
I
hope,
mr.
liquors,
that
you
have
a
luck
with
that
flash
Mira,
Tara
Penny
Hellman
thanks.
J
Karen
for
your
presentation
always
look
forward
to
the
CRA
urine
review
a
couple
things
that
I
think
are
worth
just
mentioning
again.
You
said
that
over
the
course
of,
however
long
we've
offered
the
grants
going
on
ten
years,
close
fight,
we've
given
away
five
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
grant
money,
which
was
has
resulted
in
3.4
million
dollars
in
private
investment
and
can
be
looked
at
as
a
seven
hundred
percent
return
on
investment.
J
So
I
think
that
that's
outstanding
I
can
remember
a
time
where
you
literally
were
going
door-to-door
to
try
and
give
the
money
away.
Like
literally
we
couldn't
even
get
people
to
take
advantage
of
the
of
the
grants,
and
now
you
know
to
see
some
numbers
like
that.
I
think
is
really
a
positive
thing
and
really
speaks
truth
to
the
idea
of
public
initiative
is
followed
by
private
investments.
J
So
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
be
thinking
like
that,
always
not
just
in
dollars
and
cents,
but
also
whether
it's
an
infrastructure
project
or
a
beautification
project.
Our
our
initiative
is
generally
followed
by
private
investment.
I
think
that's
being
shown
pretty
evidently
throughout
town
in
today's
time.
So,
thank
you
for
that.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
the
new
grant
has
to
offer
and
how
that
is
utilized
in
terms
of
updating
some
building
codes.
J
If
someone
is
willing
to
jump
through
the
hoops
to
utilize
the
grant
funds,
it
kind
of
separates
them
in
terms
of
their
seriousness
and
business
and
more
times
than
not.
When
we
see
somebody
take
advantage
of
these
grants,
it
appears
to
me
that
they
stay
in
business.
So,
thanks
for
what
you
do
and
we
look
forward
to
another
good
year.
L
Mayor
I
believe
we
live
in
a
great
town
here
in
Tampa
Bay
that
we
call
home
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
Karen.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
from
the
economic
standpoint
over
the
city
and
the
report.
Our
downtown
is
thriving
I
believe
we've
got
people
all
over
the
place
up
and
down
Pinellas
Avenue
throughout
the
Sponge
Docks
and
all-over
tarp,
and
so
seeing
the
growth
that
you
provided
here.
Is
it
great
to
see
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
great
assets
in
our
town.
B
B
Thank
you,
Karen,
for
putting
together
this
report.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
for
our
CRA
and
economic
development
as
a
whole.
I
did
have
a
couple
questions
of
the
3.4
million
dollars
and
private
investment,
where,
where
is
that
like?
Is
there
like
a
building
or
two
that,
like
included
the
bulk
of
that
investment,
just
a
I'm
just
as
far
as
we
got
a
3.4
million
number
yeah.
V
That's
based
on
her
the
application
they
give
the
construction
value.
So
that's
it.
So
that's,
probably
a
low
number,
some
of
the
ones
I'm
thinking
about
were
ours,
Creole
smokehouse,
because
it
was
a
real
big
one.
Tuscan
Sun
was
a
real
big
one.
A
lot
of
them
are
small.
You
know
smaller
projects,
but
there's
a
couple
that
were
you
know,
complete
renovations.
B
And
then,
as
far
as
the
grants
go
since,
since
we've
been
doing
the
grants,
I
saw
that
it
said
you
know:
we
approved
71,
facade
grants
and
16
restaurant
recruitment
grants
and
I
don't
expect
you
have
this
number
on
you,
but
I
would
be
interested
to
see
how
many
recipients
of
the
grants
have
closed,
just
to
kind
of
see
like
the
the
full
proof
or
the
effectiveness
of
them.
So
again,
I
do
you
have
that
number
I
assume
well.
V
I
can
give
you
the
entire
list
of
the
of
all
the
grants,
but
I'll
tell
you:
there's
only
been
a
handful
and
from
that
they've
immediately
been
attracted
a
new
business
because
of
the
grants,
for
example,
sweetles
bakery
cafe.
Pulley
is
there
now
because
of
the
grant
it
was
turnkey.
Kcq
barbecue
went
out.
Hours
went
in
so
for
the
for
the
stores
that
had
grams
made
it
much
easier
to
attract
a
new
business
because
the
building
was
up
to
date
and
it
looked
nice,
but
I
can
I
can
give
you
the
numbers.
Okay,.
B
And
do
we
do
any
follow
up
with
our
grants,
so
I
say
a
year
after
you
got
the
grant
and
business
is
up
and
running
or
the
grant
has
been
initiated
or
for
the
ones
that
the
businesses
that
failed
and
had
to
leave
and
receive
the
grant?
Is
there
any
follow
up
that
we
do
where
you
say
hey?
How
did
the
grant
impact
your
ability
to
do
business
within
the
city.
V
I
do
follow
ups
after
the
grant,
shortly
after
we
give
the
grant
and
in
terms
of
you
know
any
businesses
that
leave
that's
part
of
the
retention
program,
so
you
know
we
talk
with
them
about
what
you
know
is
anything
the
city
could
have
done,
or
why
did
you
leave
so
we
get
an
idea
if
there's
something
that
we
could
do
or
if
they
love,
for
you
know
other
reasons.
Okay,.
F
B
V
We're
working
on
that
now
that's
I'm
kind
of
signing
that
to
him
as
a
project,
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
it
cuz.
He
knows
better
than
I
do
with
students.
We're
gonna
use
a
QR
code
on
a
flyer
to
be
distributed
in
the
school,
so
the
kids
can
just
use
their
camera,
but
the
QR
code
will
tie
it
in
to
our
website
and
it'll,
be
an
online
survey
that
they
can
just
do
right
there
and
we're.
Looking
at
like
eight
to
ten
questions,
nothing,
that's
gonna
be
yeah.
B
B
I,
just
personally
would
caution
is
the
survey
type
of
stuff
with
kids
under
18,
most
surveys,
at
least
that
I've
researched
and
the
survey
classes
I've
taken.
If
you
answer
anything
that
says
you're
under
the
age
of
18,
it
immediately
kicks
you
out
of
the
survey
and
says
you
know,
thank
you
for
your
response
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
ask
those
demographic
questions
early,
because
it's
really
difficult
with
kids
under
18.
You
know
you
have.
B
The
legal
aspect
of
their
parents
would
need
to
consent
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
then
also
you
know
just
just
the
amount
of
responses
so
I
think
some
good
demographic
questions
early
would
definitely
be
necessary
to
kind
of
ensure
the
validity
of
it.
And
then
my
main
focus
from
the
presentation
is
something
that
we
talked
about
at
a
work
session.
I
think
last
fall,
which
is
the
Business
Survey
I'm,
really
excited
to
see.
That
done.
I
think.
V
B
Know
who
better
to
tell
us
than
what
our
CRA
needs
and
the
businesses
with
them
some
miters
questions
are:
how
straightforward
is
it?
Is
it
gonna
be?
Is
it
gonna
be
like
hey
we're
with
the
city?
What
can
we
do
to
help
you
with
your
business?
What
can
we
be
doing
better?
What
our
current
strengths
helping
your
business,
those
kind
of
questions
we're.
V
Gonna
have
multiple
choice:
we're
gonna
have
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten.
You
know
how
would
you
rate
city
services?
How
would
you
rate
this?
How
would
you
rate
that?
Do
you
know
that
you're
in
a
CRA
I,
don't
even
know
if
some
of
them
know
that
they're
in
the
area
we're
gonna
ask
them
if
they
are
aware
of
the
facade
grants
I'm
aware
of
them,
if
they're
aware
of
any
of
incentive
grants,
we're
gonna
ask
them
if
they
have
any
challenges
in
their
business
or
any
asking
about
their
workforce,
their
employment.
V
B
Even
like
a
rank
order
question
where
it's
a
rank,
how
important
the
following
is
to
you
parking.
You
know
facade
grants
that
kind
of
stuff.
Again,
that's
one
where
I
think
it's
gonna
be
really
important
as
far
as
the
response
rate
for
the
survey,
because
if
we
do
this
survey,
we
put
all
this
work
into
it,
we
put
it
out
there
and
it
gets
like
a
thirty
five
percent
response
rate
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
it's
worthless.
We
can't
do
anything
with
that
because
we
didn't
reach
enough
people.
B
So
as
far
as
the
online
survey
goes,
how
are
we
going
to
distribute
that?
Is
that
going
to
be
like
hey,
we'll
contact
the
Chamber
of
Commerce?
The
merchants
will
work
with
them,
we'll
get
it
all
out
there
and
we'll
have
one-time
links,
because
the
problem
with
some
links
is
that
you
know
if
I
get
the
link
and
I'm
Joe,
Schmo
and
I
want
to
take
the
survey,
even
though
I
may
not
own
a
business.
I
can
say
that
I
did
how
we're
gonna
make
sure
that
each
business
gets
one
shot
at
it.
We.
V
B
B
V
A
F
V
You
just
for
some
background
back
in
December
of
2018.
Another
board
authorized
the
city
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
forward
Pinellas
for
a
highest
and
best
use
study
for
the
West,
tarpon
avenue
properties,
and
it
was
really
spurred
on
by
the
series
purchase
of
the
Sun
Bay
motel
and
the
you
know
the
expenditure
of
those
dollars.
V
We
felt
it
was
incumbent
to
be
good
stewards
of
those
tax
dollars
and
do
what
we
can
to
find
out
what
could
be
done
with
those
properties
and
looking
at
both
of
them,
not
just
to
see
our
a
property,
because
we
know
we
can't
really
do
anything
with
ours
without
the
adjacent
property
and
they
Jason
property
owner
all
probably
have
difficulty
doing
anything
with
that
without
our.
So
we
put
those
two
parcels
together
and
applied
for
the
grant.
V
We
were
looking
for
some
data
and
some
strategic
guidance
for
the
future,
as
we
know
that
the
CRA
Board
will
look
at
some
point
and
doing
something
with
that
property.
So
that
was
the
impetus
for
applying
for
that
grant.
We
received
the
grant
and
we
threw
that
grant.
We've
got
our
consultant.
Who
did
the
study?
We've
had
two
public
public
meetings
on
them,
one
to
introduce
it
to
the
public
and
in
the
second
meeting,
to
talk
a
little
bit
further
about
the
concepts
when
they
had
some
concepts
and
that
latest
one
was
in
February.
V
So
with
that,
the
report
is
now
finished
and
there's
no
action
needed
on
this.
We've
got
Eric
live
from
Lambert
advisory
to
preview.
To
present
the
report
to
you-
and
you
know
after
that,
if
you
have
any
questions
but
again,
this
is
for
information
and
we
hope
it's
good
data
that
the
CRA
Board
and
the
city
can
use
moving
forward.
Not
only
for
these
parcels
but.
E
W
W
It
is
the
regional,
reasonable,
probable
and
legal
use
of
vacant
land
or
an
improved
property
which
is
physically
possible,
appropriately
supported,
financially
feasible
and
the
results
in
the
highest
value.
So
there's
there's
really
it
is
you
know
steeped
in
economic
evaluation
if
you
will,
but
it
also
takes
into
consideration
that
appropriateness
and
and
the
uses
within
the
area,
and
that
make
it
you
know
it's
in
its
appropriate
desirable
as
well.
So
let
me
take
you
real
quickly
through
our
approach
in
our
process.
W
W
We
use
primary
sources
of
information
when
we
go
out
and
do
field
interviews
of
property
owners,
we
did
meet
with
stakeholders
and
we
also
use
second
or
Erie
sources
of
information
for
some
higher
level
research
as
such
as
a
costar
or
a
CB
Richard
Ellis,
some
of
the
bigger
real
estate
companies
to
get
the
trends
I
think
that
it's
important,
though,
to
note,
while
the
you
know
this
is
done
independently.
The
city
did
undertake,
as
Karen
had
mentioned,
to
public
meetings.
W
So
we
did
introduce
this
process
to
to
the
public
and
and
receive
input
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
some
of
the
desires,
if
you
will
for
for
for
this
property,
the
key
components
of
the
eyes
and
best
use
evaluation
and
then
go
through
this
quick.
It's
really
comprehensive
regional
and
local
economic
market
assessment,
demographics,
real
estate
market
assessments.
We
look
at
the
supply
and
demand
commit
conditions
among
the
key
uses
that
are
appropriate
for
the
site,
residential
or
potential.
W
You
know:
potential
residential
office,
retail
and
and
hotel,
and
from
there
we
look
at
the
market
and
understand
what
is
the
demand
for
each
of
these
uses,
as
it
applies
to
what
we
look
at
is
kind
of
the
trade
area.
The
broad
area
from
which
this
property
would
would
capture
demand,
and
then
you
know
and
then
kind
of
understand
what
they.
W
What
the
kind
of
the
envelope
for
development
is
based
upon
those
demand
parameters,
then
we
move
forward
with
working
with
CGA
and
kind
of
in
creating
alternative
concepts
to
test
the
viability
based
upon
the
market
and
that,
obviously,
you
have
to
do
within
the
regulatory
framework
of
what
is
given
to
us
and
what
is
just
today
and
then.
Lastly,
we
do
a
financial
evaluation.
At
this
point,
it's
relatively
and
we'll
talk
about
this
a
little
bit.
W
It's
relatively
high
level
because
we
don't
go
through
the
cost
analysis
of
construction,
but
we
certainly
have
benchmark
industry
and
the
information
that
gets
us
to
be
able
to
get
to
a
pretty
good
point
of
you
know:
identifying
land
value.
I.
Think
it's
important,
also
to
note
that
it's
Canada
mentioned
there
is
we're
not
making
any
recommendation.
The
goal
of
this
is
to
put
out
as
much
information
for
the
city
and
the
stakeholders
and
the
residents
to
understand
what
their
opportunities
are
for
the
property
in
terms
of
value,
and
what
does
that
mean?
W
You
know
in
turn,
especially
as
we
look
at
alternative
uses
where
we're
looking
at
revenue
generating,
but
then
there's
also
discussion
of
other
uses
that
might
be
introduced,
so
it
does
it
just
hopefully
provide
you
with
enough
information
to
make
certain
decisions,
as
you
move
forward
with
with
planning
for
this
property.
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
you
know
I
think
it's
also
important
that
as
part
of
this
process,
we
did
want
to
make
sure
that
we
provided
the
city
with
information
pertaining
to
economic
and
market
and
real
estate
conditions
within
the
downtown
CRA.
W
To
hopefully,
you
know,
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
planning
and
in
care
and
with
all
any
investment
that
provides
the
data
needed
to
hopefully
provide.
You
know,
give
it
more
information
to
you
and
understand
where
some
of
the
opportunity
is
going
forward,
and
maybe
some
you
know
short-term
or
longer-term
planning
efforts
in
terms
of
the
market
findings.
What
is
you
know,
as
this
is
guided
by
the
market?
W
The
residential
sector
is
the
strongest
sector
within
this
area,
residential
sales,
both
single
family
in
town
house,
condos,
have
been
relatively
strong
for
the
past
few
years,
both
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
volume
of
sale
and
and
pricing.
You've
got
new
new
townhome
product
that
we've
observed.
That's
pricing
above
$350,000.
W
There
are
kind
of
in
kind
of
the
coastal
communities
and
those
with
amenities,
but
certainly
attainable
within
a
desirable
location
and
the
rental
market
is
stable,
though
we
believe
the
rental
rates
are
relatively
sensitive
to
new
development
they're,
not
quite
at
that
level
that
we
do
know.
Obviously
there
is
new
development
out
there
with
the
Mears
crossing
a
large
236
unit.
Development
probably
would
absorb
a
lot
of
the
demand
over
the
short
term.
The
retail
environment,
as
you
know,
and
we
all
read
about
is,
is-
is
going
through
a
major
transition
to
say
the
least.
W
The
Karen
had
pointed
out
and
the
restaurants,
where
there's
activity
around
and
there's
more
entertain
and
entertainment
and
in
a
longer
stay
so
I
think
that
that
bodes
very
well
for
for
the
downtown,
CRA
and
and
and
this
property
office
development
is
very,
has
been
very
modest.
The
market
is
somewhat
it's
it's
it's
it's
stable,
but
it
just
hasn't
really
moved
rates
are
still
relatively
low
low.
In
terms
of
being
able
to
support
new
construction,
you
haven't
had
much
canoe
development
for
over
20
years.
W
Now
there
is
some
new
development
in
the
making,
mostly
though
medical-related
so
not
you
know
you
get
a
you
look
at
the
use
in
how
it
pertains
to
the
the
downtown
area
in
the
CRA
and
this
property
and
kind
of
see,
if
that,
in
fact,
that
does
fit
in
with
with
with
with
a
desirable
use
and
then
whether
it
creates
any
value.
Lastly,
hotel
hotel
market
I
just
say,
has
kind
of
cruised
along
again
in
this
market.
W
Focusing
then
on
what
we
determined
to
be
the
highest.
You
know
some
of
the
strongest
uses
that
being
residential.
We
looked
at
the
zoning
that
currently
allows
for
12
units
per
acre
on
this
property,
which
is
a
it's
a
0.58
just
over
a
half,
an
acre
in
size.
So
you
can
have
six
units
on
the
property.
However,
there
is
a
potential
for
creating
up
to
22
acres
or
12
units
on
the
property
in
this
transect.
W
If
you
do,
if
you
do,
engage
in
the
process
of
TDRs
and
we
can
get
into
that,
but
right
now
we're
staying
within
confines
of
what
can
be
built
and
it's
relatively
modest
in
terms
of
residential
and
six
units,
and
then
we
also
have
ability
to
create
some
commercial
space.
So
we've
integrated
that
in
and
what
we've
done
now
is
we
said:
okay,
let's
look
at
two
potential
programs.
Let's
look
at
a
program.
W
That's
a
you
know,
pushes
density
a
little
bit
harder
and
says:
okay,
let's
put
some
ground-floor
retail
in
and
maybe
some
you
know
upper
level
residential
condominiums
and
try
to
and
kind
of
make
this
into
a
mixed-use
development
and
then
the
second
one
we
said:
okay,
let's,
let's
not
intensify,
go
with
the
the
what
is
basically
the
strongest
value
in
terms
of
your
residential,
which
is
townhome
and
C.
You
know
you
minimize
that,
but
create
nice,
bigger
units
and
say
six
townhomes
on
the
development
and
see
what
that
brings
us.
W
So
in
terms
of
concept,
one
again
when
I
talk
about
residual
land
value,
it's
it's
kind
of
order
of
magnitude,
because
costs
are
so
important,
but
we
do
have
an
understanding
of
where
the
market
is
in
terms
of
the
performance
side
concept,
one
where
you've
got
the
mixed-use
land
is
in
the
range
of
$400,000.
For
this
you
know
the
valuation
that
would
come
out
of
this
is
about
$400,000
in
concept
to
its
kind
of
in
the
the
low
to
mid
$200,000
range.
W
A
lot
of
that,
obviously
related
to
the
higher
density,
creating
more
revenue
producing
uses
in
the
retail.
That
kind
of
gives
you
that
added
value
under
concept,
one
if
we
go
and
look
at
that
specifically
it
generates
I,
believe
it
was
2.7
million
in
total
construction
costs,
and
that's
where
we
would
basically
put
that
in
terms
of
value
and
and
added
and
in
at
land
value
would
generate
about
three
thirty,
three
thousand
dollars
in
annual
net
new
taxes
to
the
CRA
I.
W
And
it's
really
just
case
a
there
is
no.
It
is.
It
is
very
complex,
but
we've
understood
that
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
boil
this
down
as
quick
as
I
can
that
that
basically,
property
retail
commercial,
commercial
properties
within
a
within
a
half
mile
I'm?
Sorry,
five
hundred
feet
of
a
property
and
residential
properties
within
a
third
of
a
mile
are
primarily
impacted
and
the
values
can
increase
anywhere
between
two
points:
two
percent
and
five
percent,
and
it's
kind
of
laid
out
in
there
and
and
really
this
goes
beyond
the
scope.
W
To
be
honest
with
you
in
this
process,
but
I
wanted
to
make
that
introduction,
because
it
is
important
to
know
that
there
is
that
there
is
a
value
that,
and
you
know
in
open
space.
So
if
we
were
to
look
at
that
and
say
in
the
same
methodology,
it
would
generate
about
twelve
thousand
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
new
tax
revenue
to
the
city.
W
However,
it's
also
important
to
note
that
there
would
have
to
be
some
capital
investment
to
create
that
parks
and
open
space
that
would
make
it
desirable
location
and
a
desirable
park
with
with
some
kind
of
amenities
and
foliage
and
so
forth.
So
you
got
to
realize
there
would
be
an
offsetting
cost
to
be
able
to
get
to
that.
At
that
point,
the
other.
The
other
option
was,
you
know,
we've
heard
was
in
the
relocation
of
the
Safford
house,
and
so
we
didn't
look
at
that.
W
I
mean
that
requires
its
own
cost
analysis,
but
the
fact
is,
if
that
were
an
opportunity
that
would
be
a
again
another
capital
outlay
to
the
city
and
to
be
honest,
if
it
were
to
be
used
as
perhaps
a
recreation
or
some
type
of
event,
space.
That
would
be
a
great
you
know,
even
an
additional,
and
you
know
in
in
investment
by
the
city
and
typically,
what
we're
seeing
is
in
in.
In
most
cases
the
you
know,
event
public
event,
space
really
does
not.
It
has
a
lot
of
difficulty,
maintaining
revenue-neutral
it.
W
A
You
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
also
like
to
thank
the
forward
fidelity
providers,
the
other
grant
of
$25,000,
to
be
able
to
do
this
analysis.
You
provide
us
with
two
concepts:
concept
number
one
which
is
six
condominiums
on
the
top
and
rich
Kevin
on
the
bottom.
Is
that
the
more
favorable
option
do
you
think
well,.
W
Yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
not
no
matter.
I
can't
pine
on
whether
it's
favorable
I
I
would
only
go
again
by
what
I
was
tasked
to
do
in
terms
of
a
highest
and
best
use
in
terms
of
evaluation.
Then
it
would
be
more
favorable
if
you're
talking
about
value
and
a
creative
value
from
a
fiscal
standpoint,
then
it's
more
than
it's
more
valuable.
W
A
The
other
question
that
I
have
is
the
analysis
included
the
possibility
to
use
a
property
as
open
space,
and
you
also
said
that
it
will
increase
the
value
of
the
properties
anywhere
from
2%
to
5%
and
that
will
generate
$12,000
taxes
to
the
area.
How
much
area
did
you
cover
to
come
out
to
come
up
with
this
calculation?
It's.
W
And
I
can
and
again
I
apologize.
It's
I
can
I
can
go
on
this
for
a
long
time,
no
and
every
piece
of
this
long
time,
but
and
kind
of
laid
it
out.
The
the
what
we've
learned
in
our
in
our
case
studies
is
that
the
most
affected
properties
are
commercial
properties
within
500
feet
of
that
property
and
residential
properties
within
1/3
of
a
mile.
W
W
W
It's
very
hard
to
say,
because
I'd
have
to
look
at
what
the
property
appraisers
database
has
in
terms
of
the
value,
because
it's
assigned
to
the
value
that's
within
that
area.
But
it
sounds
like
if
you're
increasing
it
20
percent
say
then
you
know,
maybe
that
theoretically
values
we
couldn't.
You
couldn't
increase
20%,
but
I.
Can't
that
can't
say
definitively
the.
W
No
not
if
financial
standpoint
no,
it
would
be
it
wouldn't
because
you,
the
first
of
all,
given
that
space
right
now
I
would
have
to
attribute
some
of
that
improvement
cuz.
There
would
be
some
streetscape
and
sidewalk
improvement,
so
I
think
that
needs
to
get
that
redevelopment
concept
also
needs
to
get
the
benefit
of
that
improvement
to
the
surrounding
area.
W
So
I
would
add
that,
on
to
the
$33,000
that
the
property
that
the
concept,
one
development
on
its
own,
the
residential
and
retail,
is
generating
so
I
would
add
that
on
so
it
fiscally
from
a
fiscal
standpoint
or
a
purely
an
economic
standpoint.
It
would
be
concept
one
and
don't
forget
and
again
I,
don't
you're
not
to
interrupt
but
remember,
to
get
the
park
into
a
into
a
condition
to
be
able
to
have
the
impact
on
the
surrounding
properties.
W
They
were
saying
where
there
was
five
hundred
feet
a
third
of
a
mile,
and
if
you
wanted
to
extend
beyond
that,
the
city
would
have
to
make
some
kind
of
a
memory.
You
can't
just
have
it
as
as
open
space.
So
what
happened?
Some
kind
of
improvement
in
terms
of
foliage
and
kind
of
landscaping
and
so
forth.
So
you
know
you
would
net
that
out
of
the
net
taxi
I
just.
A
Want
to
make
a
clear
that,
even
though
that
we
have
all
the
scenarios
to
properties,
I
belong
to
a
private
person,
so
it's
probably
on
it's,
not
the
city
property.
So
correct
way.
You
know
we're
discussing
here,
but
this
don't
know
if
the
that
owner
of
properties
are
actually
going
to
be
interesting
to
sell
or.
W
But
and
I
totally
agree
and
we've
you
know:
we've
had
we've
addressed
that
obviously
before
and
talked
about
it,
but
I
think
it
gives
the
city
a
very
good
understanding
and
I
think
through
even
some
of
the
you
know,
the
I
would
imagine
that
there's
you
know
an
opportunity,
maybe
to
approach
him
and
do
a
joint
development
where
the
city,
you
know
you
can
share
and
the
responsibilities
and
kind
of
create
the
plan
that
you
want
to
see.
Yeah.
A
W
A
I
bring
this
up
because,
a
couple
years
ago,
I
met
with
the
owner
of
the
two
properties,
along
with
our
economic
development
manager,
mister
Karen
lemons
and
the
owner
shared
with
us.
His
plans
that
he
was
actually
interesting
to
build
a
mix
use
here
in
there,
because
he
can't
do
his
part
either.
Unless
current
uses
the
the
city-owned
property.
A
J
You
mr.
luff
I
appreciate
your
presentation
tonight.
I
can
imagine
how
hard
it
is
to
come
into
a
close-knit
community
like
Tarpon
Springs
and
make
a
presentation
in
terms
of
highest
and
best
use,
especially
enough
being
from
here.
So
I
can
appreciate
that
I
certainly
believe
that
some
of
the
highest
and
best
use
analysis
is
relatively
subjective
in
terms
of
what
we're
trying
to
study
just
for
a
little
bit
of
perspective.
I
didn't
see
anything
about
who
Lambert
advisors
is
in
the
back
up.
So
could
you
give
some
qualifications
as
to
the
company
sure.
W
We
are
an
economic
and
real
estate,
consulting
company,
we're
based
out
of
Miami.
We
do
you
know.
Our
focus
is
community
heavy
community
development
work
both
with
the
public
and
private
sector.
I
mean
just
half
the
top.
My
head,
I
would
say
about.
75%
of
our
work
is
with
the
public
sector,
Community
Development
CRA
s
and
a
growing
discipline
in
public-private
partnership,
structuring
we've
worked
with,
probably
oh
I,
don't
know
well
more
than
50
70
municipalities
throughout
the
state
in
your
community
development
organizations
and
our
practice
extends
nationally
and
internationally
as
well.
W
J
So
you
know
some
of
what
was
as
presented
as
is
helpful,
I
guess
in
terms
of
some
numbers
and
some
market
research
I'm
sure
we'll
be
able
to
refer
back
to
this
at
a
future
date
personally,
I
feel
at
the
last
public
meeting.
I
attend
I
had
to
attend
a
private
event
in
Dunedin,
and
a
lot
of
people
want
to
compare
this
site
to
some
mixed
use:
retail
and
residential
in
downtown
Dunedin,
which
we
were
over
by
bone
Appetit
right,
which
for
me,
is
not
necessarily
comparing
apples
to
apples.
J
I
felt
that
that
night,
when
I
was
there,
while
this
meeting
was
going
on
that,
if
you
were
to
try
and
replicate
the
same
thing
that
everybody
wants
to
potentially
compare
to
and
put
that
right
on
this
parcel
in
the
golden
in
the
golden
Crescent
that
it
wouldn't
be
compatible.
So
for
me,
I'm
looking
for
something
that
is
a
lot
less
intensive,
maintains
more
open
space
and
potentially
has
some
form
of
a
event
or
gathering
area
and
I
think
that
that
will
help
tie
in
the
downtown
to
the
to
craig
park.
J
A
lot
of
people
want
to
talk
about
and
reflect
on,
mother
Mears
Park
and
what
that
was
like
back
in
the
day
and
obviously
it
was
a
lot
different,
because
we
had
a
railroad
and
less
cars
on
the
road
etc,
and
a
lot
of
people
want
to
try
and
replicate
that
which
I
think
is
great
and
I,
think
that
this
is
a
great
spot
for
it
being
that
it's
only
a
block
away
and
it
will
help
tie
into
Craig
Park.
So
we'll
look
forward
to
that
discussion
in
the
future.
L
Just
to
echo
what
vice-mayor
talked
about
I
had
to
desire
to
see,
though
all
West
End
I,
think
one
of
the
shoes
was
that
we
only
received
the
$25,000
grant
instead
of
the
higher
rated
grant.
So
they
said
they
were
only
gonna
do
part
of
it,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
whole
west
side
as
well.
I,
don't
have
any
questions
on
your
presentation.
I
appreciate
the
information,
it's
nice
to
have
this
some
ammunition
from
a
city
side
to
show
some
of
the
stats
of
what
it
could
be
and
what
it
could
look
like.
A
B
B
L
B
B
So,
on
page
five
it
mentions
some
of
the
retail
space
and
it
talks
about
how
much
lower
our
average
asking
rent
is
for
retail
space
and
some
of
these
other
factors,
I
just
I,
was
curious
when
it
comes
to
the
averages
in
Pinellas
County.
Do
you
find
that
it's
kind
of
skewed
because
of
places
like
downtown,
st.
P
or
Clearwater
Beach
sure
I
mean
there.
W
Are
markets
that
that
that
you
know
have
a
been
influence
on
value,
but
then
that
you
know
when,
if
you're
just
trying
to
do
a
comparison
of
market
rates
between
areas,
it's
gonna
factor
in
what
you
know.
Obviously
a
CBD
I
can
see
you
know,
st.
P
versus
a
tarpon
springs
or
some
other
areas,
so
that
does
factor
in.
But
you
know
at
this
point
we're
just
trying
to
understand
kind
of
comparative
liebe
where
the
rates
where
the
rates
stand
more
important,
though,
is
in
the
trends,
were
in
there.
W
I
think
we
talk
about
kind
of
where
the
where
the
grow.
You
know
where
rate
growth-
and
you
know
the
great
growth
trends
I-
think
that's
the
more
important
and
understand
where
the
great
you
know.
If
it's
you
know
it's
kind
of
been
a
little
more
stable,
say
in
this
in
this
market
compared
to
to
st.
Pete.
Even
though
st.
Pete
has
the
higher
value
yeah.
B
B
B
W
I
mean
we
came
up
and
we
decided
that
we
were
gonna
hold
meetings,
I
think
was
a
full-day
set
of
meetings,
and
so
we
were
able
to
contact
six.
That's
just
the
the
kind
of
the
stakeholders
that
we
had
worked
with
the
city
to
identify.
It's,
not
the
only
stakeholders
in
the
in
the
market,
because
we
did
talk
to
industry
representatives,
some
of
the
developers
properly
represented,
is
leasing,
companies
and
so
forth.
So
it
went
beyond
just
those
six
in
terms
of
stakeholder,
but
we
were
collectivist
and
just
to
identify
six.
W
So
again
we
met
you
know,
given
the
prey
on
which
the
study
you
know
really,
we
were
our
focus.
We
usually
only
do
kind
of
the
the
field,
research
and
talking
to
the
developers
and
the
operators
themselves,
but
in
this
case
we
wanted
to
extend
this
think.
You
know
some
stakeholders
at
least
to
get
that
input.
Okay
and
then,
and
obviously
the
the
public
meetings
were
helpful
as
well
where
people
were
to
come
forward
and
give.
B
W
B
L
W
B
B
As
far
as
the
to
concept
goes,
the
mixed-use
concept
seems
to
be
a
trend
of
a
lot
of
downtown's
happening
right
now,
I'd
like
to
go
more
unique,
growl
tarpon
springs,
I,
don't
know
how
well
a
mixed-use
would
fit
there.
I
mean
again.
I
know
these
are
just
concept
designs,
but
I
mean
I'm.
Just
thinking
of
you
know
them
throwing
the
cross
for
epiphany
and
then,
in
the
background,
it's
a
mixed
use
with
like
a
Jamba
Juice
downstairs
or
something
like
that.
B
I
mean
it's
just
you
know
it's
it's
hard
to
picture
the
townhomes
and
again
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this
I
understand
that
this
is
just
the
highest
and
and
best
use
analysis.
But
townhomes
are
probably
the
last
thing
I'd
like
to
see
there
I
think
it'd
be
very
out
of
place,
given
the
historic
nature
of
our
downtown.
Also
I
I.
Just
think
this
would
have
been
a
lot
of
trouble
to
go
through
so
that
six
people
could
have
townhomes.
You
know
right
there.
B
You
know
so
so,
just
as
far
as
kind
of
show
my
cards,
where
I'm
leaning
have
it
not
seen
anything
and
having
the
knowledge
of
mine
that
you
know
there,
there
is
privately
owned
property.
There
I'd
be
more
open
to
like
an
expansion
of
craig
park
or
green
space.
Something
of
that
nature.
But
again
I
I
know
we're
early
on
the
process
so
other
than
that.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
The
debt
keeps
going
up
the
money
spent
into
it,
you're
going
to
talk
$12,000
a
year
about
Lisa's
next,
but
your
haven't
solved
the
basic
problem:
Charlie
got
killed.
Somebody
else
got
killed.
It's
sunbae,
you
felt
like
God,
do
something:
let's
buy
the
Sun
Bay,
but
there
we
go.
This
is
reporting
le
o
Michael
trill
on
December
3rd
at
approximately
2:42
p.m.
G
dispatch
advised
of
a
call
at
the
tarpon
in
located
110
West
tarpon
Avenue
regarding
a
male
with
blood
on
his
face
waving,
a
knife
and
yelling
at
the
time
and
I
was
near
the
intersection,
Pinellas,
Avenue
and
tarpon
Avenue
and
may
they
responded
at
approximately
243
p.m.
I.
Arrived
on
scene
observed
several
people
in
the
parking
lot
near
motel
rooms.
G
Have
another
individual
match,
description
of
white
male
wearing
no
shirt
and
had
blood
on
his
face
as
I
stopped
my
vehicle
male
later
identified
as
Robert
pesto
began
waving
me
advises
mail,
I
pulled
a
knife
on
him
and
an
orb
room.
103
had
notified
dispatch.
Another
unit.
Additional
officers
could
assist
a
female
later
identified,
as
Deborah
Warren,
who
was
uninvolved
in
the
incident,
was
standing
nearby
on
a
bicycle
and
approached
license.
She
had
called
drove
the
male
one
night.
G
She
stayed
the
male
gun
in
room
103,
requested
that
she
stay
on
scene,
but
leave
the
immediate
area
of
the
room
as
I
was
retrieving.
My
department
issued
pepper,
ball
launcher
and
projectiles
from
my
vehicle.
Robert
stayed.
He
wouldn't
tell
me
what
happened.
They
mentioned
that
his
wife
was
also
in
room
103,
initially
I,
concerned
about
the
welfare
of
the
female
and
the
intention
of
the
man
concerned
of
a
possible
hostage
situation.
However,
the
male
then
relayed
that
he
need
to
tell
me
about
the
incident
in
case
he
goes
to
jail.
G
I
asked
why
he
would
go
to
jail,
which
he
respond,
that
he
beat
up
the
other
male
asked
if
he
had
beat
him
up
after
he
pulled
a
knife.
I'm
thinking
was
referring.
Self-Defense
Murat
advised
that
he
had
beat
him
up
before,
because
he
come
back
to
the
apartment
to
find
the
male
and
his
wife
showering
together.
He
said
it
was
at
that
time.
He
grabbed
the
male
pull
him
out
of
shower
the
male
later
identified
as
Michael
Stevens
later
on
himself,
a
knife
start
chasing
Robert.
G
Just
prior
to
my
arrival,
I
entered
the
motel
room
again.
Will
Roberts
wife
is
located,
Robert
get
consent
for
me
to
enter
the
room,
but
not
have
his
key
card
on
him.
Staying
there,
I
was
still
in
the
room.
I
made
contact
with
the
motel
manager.
Provided
me
with
a
master
key
I
had
maintained
position
to
these
the
motel
room
with
an
unobstructed
view
of
the
door.
Other
units
began
to
arrive
to
include
sergeant.
G
Oh
sorry,
officer,
Hammond
and
officer
Melton
I
advised
that
I
had
less
lethal
coverage
and
requested
coverage
with
firearms
is
all
as
well.
I
was
utilizing
the
pepper
ball
launcher
with
inert
VXR
projectiles
other
responding
units
provided
cover
with
their
handguns.
We
then
approached
the
door
and
observed
that
it
was
not
fully
closed.
That's
the
kicked
the
door
which
opened
into
the
room
and
to
the
left
open
immediately,
observed
Michael
holding
clothing
and
a
folding
knife
in
the
locked
open
position,
so
the
blade
was
visible.
G
Sergeant
no
Sark
and
I'm
usually
immediately
gave
loud
clear
verbal
commands
for
Michael
to
drop
the
knife
which
he
did
I
then
ordered
him
to
walk
forward
out
of
the
room
and
walk
away
where
he
was
destructed.
Take
a
kneeling
position,
Michael
complied
and
was
secured
in
handcuffs.
We
observed
that
Michael
had
blood
coming
from
a
relatively.
F
G
I
Neri
vais
fais
I
need
a
prose
and
I
don't
want
Bayshore
Drive.
The
motion
was
made
long
ago
about
discussing
buying
the
Sun
Bay
and
the
the
property
next
to
it.
Well,
we
didn't
have
a
discussion
about
what
they
wanted
with
for
the
property
next
to
it,
and
we
don't
know
what
was
discussed
but
I.
Don't
care
for
this
report.
We're
talking
about
historic
property,
the
golden
Crescent,
where
all
our
beautiful
Victorian
homes
are.
I
As
you
know,
I
want
the
Sandford
house
there
we
have
a
beautiful
historic
home,
it's
up
on
a
hill
down
a
road
that
nobody
goes
to
see.
We
don't
have
not
discussed
how
we
could
move
it
by
the
property
that
the
community
wants.
We
haven't
discussed
how
we
could
make
money
and
give
services
out
of
that
home
to
the
community.
We
haven't
discussed
the
beauty
of
what
we've
got.
Let's
not
give
it
away.
They
do
the
economic
development
on
it.
I
Miami
West
Palm
Beach
they're,
not
talking
Springs,
we've
lost
a
packing
house
tonight:
let's
not
lose
our
Sandford
house
and
that
piece
of
property
to
finish
the
golden
Crescent
with
what
belongs
to
be
there
and
make
it
what
tarpon
is
known
for
in
the
paper.
There
was
a
picture
of
the
golden
Crescent
years
ago
last
week,
what
it
means
to
our
community
what
it
means
in
the
state
of
Florida
our
reputation.
I
How
come
we're
not
talking
about
that?
How
come
we're
not
talking
to
the
people
who
want
to
have
a
historic
area
there?
Who
were
the
stakeholders
that
they
spoke
to?
Did
they
talk
to
stakeholders
in
the
golden
Crescent
in
the
fruit
section
out
in
Tarpon,
Springs
Greektown,
the
older
sections
of
Tarpon?
What
we
have
here,
economic
value?
What
if
we
can
think
about
what
we're
going
to
give
away
here?
I
I
don't
want
condos
there
I,
don't
even
want
a
business
down
there
next
to
those
homes
and
that
will
trash
the
the
area
of
our
golden
Crescent.
Let's
do
a
study
please
on
moving
the
Stafford
house
and
I
bet
you
anything
that
we
can
get
donations
throughout
the
community
to
help
buy
the
property
move.
The
cypher
house,
the
Hat
sovereign
house,
can
be
moved
and
others
grants.
We
need
a
grant
Department
here
in
this
city,
that
studies
all
the
grants
that
we
can
go
for
we're
losing
money
every
day,
we're
not
applying
to
anything
making.
I
Money
and
taxes
isn't
the
only
thing
in
this
community.
Yes,
it
is
important,
but
we're
losing
and
trashing
what
we
have
to
make
something
beautiful
and
the
golden
Crescent.
As
you
know,
I've
talked
about
it
for
many
many
years,
let's
not
lose.
What
we've
got.
Let's
put
the
corsage
at
that
corner,
which
is
the
Safford
house.
Let
the
community
use
it.
Let
our
businesses
offer
a
services
of
bringing
in
food
for
affairs.
Let
our
organizations
use
it.
Let's
leave
something
to
our
grandchildren,
our
nieces
and
nephews
that
they
can
be
proud
of.
I
They
can't
be
proud
of
condos
down
there
with
businesses,
Manatee
village
nothing's
there,
just
a
few
businesses.
We've
got
the
ugly
condos
on
the
other
side
of
it
and
nobody
likes
them.
We
have
empty
places
that
businesses
need
to
go
in
and
tarpon
springs.
We
need
to
fill
this
all
up
with
businesses
before
we
put
something
else
down
there
and
have
empty
buildings.
Please
me
Rallo
who's,
us.
Let's
do
a
study
on
the
Saffir
house
being
moved
there
and
let's
do
the
right
thing
and
not
lose
what
we've
got.
Thank.
A
U
Costa
vatikiotis
5:38
was
Cedar
Street
mayor,
my
wife
Darlene
is
here
if
I
need
more
than
four
minutes,
she's
consented
to
giving
her
two
minutes
to
my
time.
I,
don't
think
I'm
gonna
need
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
I
appreciate
what
the
consultants
have
done.
I
think
they
did
a
lot
for
$25,000.
Surprisingly
a
lot,
they
may
have
not
answered
the
questions
that
the
Commission
had,
but
I
think
that
they
did
what
they
were
tasked
to
do.
I
very
much
appreciate
all
the
sentiment
of
the
Commission.
U
It's
it's
it's
the
sort
of
comments
that
I
personally
like
to
hear
I
thought
it
was
going
to
go
one
way
completely,
which
is
not
the
case.
What
I
wanted
to
do
is
provide
some
additional
information
that
is
embedded
in
the
study,
but
really
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
there.
I
want
to
point
out
the
fact.
U
Both
historical
and
economic
I
want
to
point
out
the
fact
that
this
is
not
virgin
land
that
we're
talking
about
something
was
there
before
and
if
you
look
at
the
Sanborn
map
from
1919
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
the
larger
the
two
parcels
that
are
owned
by
mr.
Hoffman,
he
had
the
wood
roof
on
there.
Mr.
wood
Herbert
Woodruff
was
a
an
associate
and
a
friend
of
Hamilton
distant.
U
He
was
also
a
better
friend
of
Jacob
distant,
which
was
Hamilton's
younger
brother,
and
he
was
also
friends
and
a
business
associate
of
George
Clemson
George
Clemson
is
the
one
who
built
the
house
on
the
corner
of
grand
and
spring
Boulevard
that
Mary
Marion
Nexen
currently
owns
the
smaller
home
that
you
see
on
that
smaller
parcel.
Mr.
Hoffman's
I
suspect
was
built
by
Richard
Clemson,
which
was
mr.
Woodruff's
brother-in-law.
His
sister
was
married
to
mr.
U
Clemson's,
so
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
we're
dealing
with
a
very,
in
my
opinion,
a
very
historic
piece
of
property,
mrs.
Chapman,
Alice,
Woodruff
Chapman,
kept
this
property
until
1958
or
parent's
home,
and
both
those
houses
were
demolished
about
1968
the
best
that
I
can
tell
again
it's
a
very
historic
piece
of
property.
U
Think
right
now,
I
think
it's
owned
by
an
investment
property
fund
which
is
still
within
the
Sykes
family,
but
it
was
miss
Lilly,
Miss,
Leakes,
Louise,
Sykes,
home
and
that
property
is
actually
the
exact
same
size
as
the
property.
We're
talking
about.
It's
also
valued
at
the
exact
same
amount,
320
assessed
at
exactly
the
same
amount,
three
hundred
and
twenty-two
thousand
dollars.
It's
also
got
the
same
zoning
as
what
we're
talking
about
right
now,
so
be
careful.
U
What
you
wish
for-
or
at
least
I,
don't
hear
anybody
wishing
for
something
like
what
was
proposed
as
far
as
the
highest
use,
but
be
careful.
We've
got
this
big
piece
of
property
just
to
the
south.
That's
identical
to
the
property
that
we're
talking
about
now
and
if
you
allow
one
or
encourage
one
type
of
development
on
that,
mr.
Hoffman's
property
don't
be
surprised
if
somebody
else
comes
up
wanting
the
same
opportunity
for
that.
U
The
the
one
unintended
consequence
I
think
the
consultants
have
learned
from
the
two
workshops
or
public
meetings
that
occurred
is
it's
pretty
much
when
they
see
these
highest
uses
that
are
being
looked
at
or
being
suggested.
As
far
as
the
final
report,
those
people
have
this
opposite
reaction
and
it's
galvanizing
a
lot
of
the
residents
to
some
expectation
on
what
they'd
like
to
see
on
that
property.
It's
very
similar.
U
What
I've
heard
you
say:
kind
of
inclined
to
more
of
an
open
space
of
public
space,
which
I
think
is
good
and
the
the
one
thing
is
the
the
Sanford
house
that
could
be
brought
there
and
and
I
know.
The
consultants
mentioned
a
couple
of
times
that
it
would
take
some
capital
outlay
for
the
city,
but
I
think
most
of
us
who
have
kind
of
looked
at
this,
also
recognized
that
the
park
and
core
property
could
be
sold
as
well.
You.
U
It's
just
it's
just
the
thought,
but
I
think
that's
as
much
a
realistic
scenario.
Some
of
the
things
that
the
consultants
had
brought
up
I
think
that
was
it
I
just
wanted
to
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
history.
I
want
you
to
bring
up
the
Sykes
property
and
point
that
out
to
you
and
also
I,
think
that
their
public
space
and
it
does
have
economic
divot
benefits
that
weren't
really
discussed
this
evening.
Thinking
there,
thank
you
any.
A
V
You
this
is
the
second
amendment
to
the
commercial
lease
at
61,
tarpon
Avenue.
This
says
the
lease
for
the
building
that
we
created
the
Community
Redevelopment
Center
and
the
vacant
parcels
to
the
West
it
was
entered
into
in
March
of
2018.
It
was
amended
for
the
first
time
last
year
in
2019
for
another
year,
and
the
lease
expires
now
March
30th
of
this
year,
and
so
this
is
asking
for
a
second
amendment.
The
lease
terms
are
unchanged
from
the
initial
terms
and
in
the
past
year,
obviously
we've
got
a
Community
Redevelopment
Center.
V
There
that's
used
for
meetings
of
businesses,
it's
used
for
the
merchants,
it's
used
for
special
event
space.
We
have
meetings
there
with
developers
and
Realtors
and
people
feel
comfortable
going
there,
especially
downtown
business
owners
that
I
interact
with
quite
a
quite
a
bit.
We've
also
committed
this
for
an
open
house
for
the
historic
design
guidelines
having
an
open
house
later
for
people
to
come
in
and
look
at
the
document
once
it
gets
too
close
to
its
final
form.
V
The
police
department
uses
it
and
it's
been
used
by
other
organizations.
We've
had
the
pinellas
pasco
county
community
on
Aging
meeting
there
and
we
held
those
stakeholder
interviews
that
were
discussed
there
as
well.
So
that's
that's
how
the
building
is
used.
It's
also
being
used
now
for
First
Friday
event
parking.
J
V
L
V
L
E
L
E
L
Property
owner
area
in
the
past
has
been
nice
enough
to
allow
the
city
to
use
the
property
at
times
or
you
have
other
organizations
use
it
for
parking,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
to
not
take
advantage
of
a
property
owner
in
that
Sand,
Point
and
I.
Think
it's
a
fair
lease
amount.
L
I
mean
it's
not
that
much,
maybe
a
thousand
dollars
less
than
$1,000
a
month
for
leasing
that,
for
the
city,
standpoint
to
use
it
from
security
standpoint
for
epiphany
and
other
other
events
with
first
Friday
and,
like
you
mentioned
I,
think
it's
a
seam.
It
makes
sense
to
me
I,
don't
any
further
questions.
B
Thank
You
meryt,
not
necessarily
any
questions
more
so
just
I
want
to
see
a
decision
made
on
the
property.
Obviously
we
want
to
reach
out
to
the
community
and
continue
to
get
that
kind
of
input,
but
I
mean
obviously
our
end
game.
Here,
isn't
just
to
keep
extending
this
lease
and
just
have
this
little
outpost
because
I
mean
really
it's
not.
A
Yeah
I
think
it's
very
useful
to
have
the
city.
Have
a
satellite
office
in
downtown
I
think
it
helps
the
economic
development
caring
you
meeting
with
a
lot
of
customers
they're.
Also
the
police
departments.
Constantly
there
he
there,
he
there
I
see
them
there
every
day,
the
edge
you
say,
the
Merchants
Association
they
use
in
them
as
well
and
parking
is
the
vice
mayor
had
mentioned,
and
we
use
it
in
so
many
different
events.
A
V
U
Costa
vatikiotis
5:38
was
Cedar
Street
I
handed
out.
This
second
photo,
which
is
actually
mother,
Mears
Park.
If
you
look
at
the
center
you'll
see
the
yearn,
that's
up
there
on
the
intersection
right
now,
that's
the
best
photo
I
could
find
I
told
the
city
manager
before
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
lease.
If
I've
passed
by
this
property
for
50
years,
I've
been
deluged
with,
sign,
clutter
cars
parked
on
their
trailers
parked
on
their
almost
on
a
daily
basis.
I
think
the
city's
done.
U
It
was
weary,
very
wise
to
rent
this
property,
if
not
just
to
keep
it
clean.
The
only
thing
I
would
like
to
see
was
is
actually
extend.
The
lease
I
think
the
city
manager
has
said
that
this
is
I.
Think
he's
addressed
other
people
that
what
we're
looking
at
is
a
two
or
three
year
process
for
this
property.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
be
the
case
or
not,
but
in
other
words
to
make
a
determination.
U
If
that's
the
case,
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
longer,
lease
and
I'd
like
to
see
some
improvements,
such
as
sodding
irrigation,
and
maybe
some
landscaping,
perhaps
something
similar
to
what
you
have
with
the
mother
Mears
Park.
It
is
the
gateway
to
our
parks.
It
is
what
connects
to
downtown
to
Kraig
Park.
If
we're
going
to
just
continue
kicking
the
can
down
the
street
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
more
substantive,
but
at
this
point
I
very
much.
Thank
you
for
continuing
on
with
this
lease.
Thank
you
thank.
A
U
G
Peter
Lexus
fight
one
for
Ashland
Avenue,
as
you
see
you're
in
a
perpetual
motion,
hole
you're
dependent
on
eventually,
maybe
somebody
coming
to
propose
something
that
will
mollify
everybody.
Yet
you
have
other
constituents
who
want
the
city
to
take
the
whole
property
we've
already
probably
into
this
over
a
million
and
yet,
as
I
explained,
we're
still
not
solving
the
problem
there,
as
I
left
off
michael
complied,
was
secured
in
handcuffs.
He
we
observed
the
michael
I
blood,
coming
from
a
relatively
large
gash
to
the
right
side
of
the
top
of
his
head.
G
Note
michael
advised
that
robert
had
caused
the
injury,
but
was
not
sure
what
robert
hit
him
with
thinking
it
was
his
hand.
I
observed
a
nude
white
female
sitting
on
the
far
bed
facing
the
door
with
a
towel
sheet
wrapped
around
her
lower
body
and
her
breasts
exposed.
I
asked
her
if
she
was
okay,
she
requested
she
cover
up
put
on
some
clothing.
The
female
did
not
comply
and
simply
sat
there
staring
at
me
advised
her
numerous
times
to
cover
up
and/or
put
on
clothing.
However,
she
did
not
do
so.
G
Rather,
she
began
to
talk
with
heavily
slurred
speech,
asking
what
we
were
doing
from
my
vantage
point.
Just
inside
the
front
door.
I
could
see
that
no
other
persons
were
within
the
living
portion
of
the
room.
I
was
able
to
clear
the
bathroom
area
which
had
its
entrance
on
the
west
wall.
Just
inside
the
front
door
then
maintained
a
position
near
the
front
doors.
Patrol
officers
were
conducting
interviews
and
continuing
their
investigation.
I
requested
detectives
karpati,
who
had
arrived
on
the
scene
to
assist
when
dealing
with
the
naked
female
later
identified
as
Kimmy
man.
G
His
note
that
we
had
to
obtain
her
name
from
Richard
as
man,
because
Kimmy
peered
him
talks
hey
levels.
You
could
either
not
understand
the
question.
What's
your
name
or
could
not
formulate
the
words
detective
scar
party
attempted
numerous
time
to
persuade
Kimmy
to
put
clothing
on.
However,
she
would
not
respond
with
any
actions.
Detective
Skaar,
potty
advice,
Kimmy's
only
statements
were
slurred
and
responses
were
in
regard
to
vampires
I,
then
instructed
detectives
karpati
to
find
a
shirt
and
place
it
on
ur,
which
she
did.
G
Ems
had
been
notified
to
respondent
references,
Michael,
head
injury
and
evaluate
Kimmy
for
medical
assistance.
At
first,
we
were
unaware
of
Kimmy
had
been
the
Vic
the
battery
as
well.
Although
the
investigation
later
revealed
that
she
was
not
while
waiting
for
EMS
to
respond
and
throughout
their
time
on
the
scene,
Kimmi
became
more
verbal.
G
Although
much
of
what
was
spoken
was
unintelligible,
we
were
only
able
to
understand
some,
which
include
included
repeatedly
asking
what
we
were
doing
cursing
a
detective
scar,
potty
for
no
known
reason
and
professing
their
love
to
Michael,
who
she
thought
was
her
husband.
Although
she
was
advised
he
was
not
her
husband,
numerous
times
based
on
their
level
of
intoxication
or
lack
of
self-control.
G
In
regard
to
alcohol,
she
continued
to
attempt
to
consume
that,
while
we
were
on
the
scene
with
her
and
her
inability
to
function
or
care
for
herself,
there
was
a
concern
for
her
safety.
Thus
I
advised
that
she
would
need
to
be
transported
the
hospital
consistent
with
the
Marchman
Act
TS
F,
our
EMS
ed
evaluator,
on-scene
transfer
to
Advent
health.
It
also
noticed
noted
that
officers
had
established
probable
cause
for
the
rest
of
Robert
for
aggravated
battery
Michael
for
aggravated
assault.
Both
were
placed
under
arrest,
Robert
was
transported,
police
departments.
G
Processing
Michael's
transported
to
have
been
help
from
the
investigation
was
determined
that
Robert,
Michael
and
Kimmel
were
inside
the
room
drinking
alcoholic
beverages
as
it
appeared
they
consumed
most.
The
alcohol
Robert
went
to
the
store
to
purchase
more
when
he
arrived
back
at
the
location
he
found
Michael
and
Kim
in
the
shower
together,
angry
Robert
grabbed
Michael
began
to
batter
and
ultimately
causing
laceration
gas
to
Michael's
head
after
the
physical
alteration.
G
Altercation
Michael
got
dressed
to
include
pants
a
hat
in
a
backpack
armed
himself
with
a
knife
began
chasing
Robert
with
the
knife
and
placing
him
in
fear
of
being
stabbed.
That's
neither
male
appeared
to
act
in
self-defense
while
at
the
hospital
detective
Skaar
potty,
assisted
by
standing
by
with
Michael
as
he
was
treated
for
his
injuries
and
ultimately
Michael
received
several
staples
that
closed
the
room
during
the
treatment
process,
however,
Michael
would
range
from
appearing
angry
and
cursing
to
crying,
often
stating
he
did
not
understand.
Why
he's
being
arrested
at
one
point?
G
A
nurse
asked
me
to
assist
as
Michael
was
being
uncooperative
and
causing
a
disturbance.
It
was
know
that
Mike
was
in
an
area
with
two
other
individuals
separated
only
by
drape
seeking
mental
attention
for
injuries
and
illness.
That's
disruptive
Haber
could
affect
them.
I
entered
the
room
heard
Michael
by
Z,
didn't
understand
why
he
was
arrested,
I
slowly
and
clearly
explained
it
to
him
s
previous
notice
in
this
report
and
the
rest
is
on
file.
Thank
you.
F
A
A
N
Mayor
commissioner's
resolution
2020
year,
one
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
Turpan
springs:
Community,
Redevelopment,
Agency,
establishing
a
CRA
Building
Code
assistance
program,
grant,
establishing
application
and
guidelines
for
the
administration
of
the
grant
and
establishing
an
effective
date.
There
was
reading
of
resolution
2020
0
1
by
title
only
thank.
V
You
Carolyn
men's
economic
development
manager.
This
song,
we
discussed
at
our
January
28th
CRA
workshop
the
new
building
code
assistance
program
grant.
This
would
provide
grants
for
interior
renovations
that
are
required
by
Building
Code
fire
code,
FEMA
or
other
safety
type
codes.
We
have
a
lot
of
older
buildings,
some
are
being
repurposed,
some
have
a
change
of
use.
We
have
some
buildings
that
are
retail
and
now
we've
got
restaurants
coming
in
that
triggers
a
whole
new
Building
Code,
and
sometimes
they
need
elevators.
V
They
need
fire
sprinkling,
they
need
suppression
systems
and
if
the
building
owner
isn't
willing
to
do
it,
the
tenant
usually
isn't
wanting
to
pay
those
capital
improvements.
So
this
grant
would
go
a
long
way
both
for
new
tenants
coming
into
buildings
and
for
owners
of
buildings
to
upgrade
their
properties
and
to
provide
that
fire
suppression
or
elevators
or
things
that
they
might
need
to
do
in
order
to
attract
businesses.
So
it
operates
the
same
as
the
other
grants.
We
have
it's
a
50%
reimbursement.
V
A
You
thinking
Karen
I
was
going
to
say
this
is
something
the
way
you
already
discussed.
Everybody
was
in
favor
afford,
but
this
is
really
a
good
incentive
to
bring
some
of
the
older
buildings
that
have
up
Chira
to
the
code,
so
they
can
be
utilized
and
bring
more
businesses
to
tarplin.
Do
we
have
any
idea
how
many
buildings
still
we
have
that
they
need
to
be
upgraded?
V
About
10
or
20,
no
I
mean
I.
Just
today,
I
talked
with
somebody
who's
interested
in
the
old
Oxford
tea
house
at
118,
East,
Orange
Street,
and
you
know
that
building
is
pretty
much
has
nothing
in
it.
So
we
talked
about
the
different
incentive
grants,
so
they
would
qualify
for
the
facade
grant
for
15,000.
They
would
be
able
to
get
this
building
grand
for
7,500
and
what
they
were
proposing
to
do.
They
could
get
the
restaurant
grant
for
7,500.
V
So
you
know
by
bundling
these
grants
together
is
another
help
to
attracting
businesses
that
and
I
qualify.
So
that's
a
building.
The
old
cliche
building
we
know
needs
fire
suppression
and
they
don't
have
it.
The
court
of
two
sisters
has
been
looking
to
do
some
things
on
the
upstairs
that's
going
to
require
new
building
code.
We've
got
a
couple
buildings
that
may
need
elevators
the
produce
stand
on
South
Pinellas
Avenue
we've
had
lots
of
people
look
at,
but
that's
got
FEMA
issues.
V
J
You,
as
you
know,
I'm
in
support
of
this
Karen
I,
just
I
do
have
one
thing
that
I
think
might
be
a
little
problematic
within
your
application
and
that's
the
requirement
for
all
applicants
to
have
a
current
local
business
tax
and
my
experience
in
some
of
these
cases
as
you're
recruiting.
You
know
these
new
business
concepts
to
come
to
these
buildings
in
a
lot
of
cases.
J
We're
taking
these
grants
into
consideration
and
utilizing
the
grants
prior
to
opening
the
business
so
I
just
think
that
that's
worth
pointing
out-
and
you
might
want
to
try
and
take
that
into
consideration
within
your
application.
So
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
someone
would
already
be
in
business
if,
for
example,
they
can't
go
into
business
because
the
building's
not
suitable
for
whatever
building
codes
right.
So
it's
advantageous
to
use
the
the
grant
monies
to
bring
the
building
into
compliance.
So
then
they
can
occupy
it
and
get
a
business
license.
So.
F
L
L
B
F
B
V
They
have
to
fill
out
the
application,
and
then
they
go
through
the
Technical,
Review
Committee
so
and
once
they're
approved
they
can
move
forward
on
it.
If
we
have
15
people
and
they
all
go
through
a
technical
review
and
they're
all
approved,
I
would
come
back
to
you
and
ask
for
some
more.
Some
more
dollars
want
to
see
all
right,
gotcha.
B
J
O
J
C
A
N
The
attorney
yes
I'll
be
I'm,
happy
to
talk
to
you
about
this
tonight.
As
you
know,
and
2018
an
RFP
was
issued
for
this
property
and
ultimately,
the
proposer
backed
out
of
the
the
award
of
that
RFP
subsequent
to
that
there
was
very
little
interest
in
the
property,
even
with
extensive
marketing
and
discussions
with
developers.
Karen's
Department,
though,
put
together
a
general
information
sheet,
and
that's
provided
that
to
you
it's
on
the
desk
in
front
of
you
tonight.
This
is
the
document
that
is
provided
to
anyone.
That
is
interested.
N
It's
my
understanding
that
there
are
two
proposals
and
the
pipeline
relative
to
this
property,
and
so
that's
the
reason
why
this
is
being
brought
forward
to
give
you
to
actually
to
you
know
to
get
some
direction
from
the
Commission,
as
you
know
that
the
RFP
process
was
used
in
the
past.
The
question
is:
is
whether
or
not
you
want
to
use
it
again
when
you
went
through
the
process
before
my
partner,
Jay
ganyo
gave
you
two
memos
addressing
a
couple
of
issues
relative
to
the
RFP
process.
N
One
was
specifically
to
address
the
issue
of
how
the
presentations
would
be
made.
If
they
are
going
to
go
through
the
RFP
process
of
all
that
memorandum,
it's
dated
April
23rd
2018,
and
in
that
memo
memorandum
he
basically
talks
about
the
fact.
If
it
is
an
RFP,
if
it
is
a
sealed
bid
process,
then
you
can
use
the
Optoma.
N
You
can
use
the
statute
relative
to
the
confidentiality
of
the
presentations
being
provided
to
you
in
a
closed-door
session,
and
that
is
the
way
that
the
presentations
were
made
back
in
2008
in
a
closed-door
session
where
the
presentations
were
made.
But
ultimately
you
came
in
to
the
public
and
to
discuss.
You
know
the
presentation
so
that
you
could
also
receive
public
comment
and
ultimately
award
the
bid.
N
Also
in
the
packet
of
these
three
items
that
have
given
you
tonight
is
the
memo
from
Jay
relative
to
the
sale
of
property
in
the
CRA
you'll.
Remember
that
because
the
property
is
in
the
CRA,
there's
a
requirement
that
you
place
an
advertisement
than
their
newspaper
at
least
30
days
before
you
make
any
award.
So
there
needs
to
be
some
thought
across
some
thought
about
that.
When
you
go
through
this
proposal
process,
you
can
either
go
through
the
process
where
you
you
address
the
to
and
the
pipeline.
N
Currently,
you
can
go
out
for
an
RFP
in
either
event
you're
going
to
need
to
do
this
advertisement
so
I'm,
not
sure
that
actual
any
action
needs
to
be
taken
tonight.
Ultimately,
though,
Karin
is
looking
for
some
direction
from
the
Commission,
whether
it's
tonight
or
sometime
in
the
future.
As
to
how
you
want
to
approach
the
two
that
are
in
the
pipeline,
do
you
want
them
to
be
brought
to
you
directly?
Do
you
want
a
presentation
made?
N
Do
you
want
to
go
back
out
for
sealed,
sealed
proposals
so
that
everybody
gets
the
same
information
at
the
same
time?
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that
you
probably
want
to
go
ahead
and
discuss
if
you
do
go
at
go
through
with
the
process
of
having
presentation
with
the
two
that
are
currently
in
the
pipeline.
Remember
that
you
still
have
to
make
it
available
to
anybody
else.
N
A
lot
of
different
ways
that
you
can
do
it
so
one
way
is
move
through
the
process.
Right
now,
look
at
these
two
proposals
as
they're
coming
through
the
pipeline.
They
don't
have
to
be
sealed.
You
can
do
it.
Have
them
do
a
presentation
or
you
can
go
back
out
and
tell
these
two
to
rethink
about
their
proposals
and
provide
a
sealed
proposal
along
with
everybody
else,
once
you
give
the
30-day
notice
so
that
you
can
do
all
of
at
the
same
time,.
J
You
just
my
take
on
it
is
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
there's
a
need
for
us
to
go
back
out
to
RFP
again.
This
has
been
years
and
years
and
years.
So
we
have
two
applicants
that
pretty
much
have
complete
completed
the
application.
So
it
would
be
my
personal
desire
to
just
hear
the
applicant
applicants
and
select
one
or
the
other
as
it
relates
to
the
30
day
notice,
mr.
Trask
being
we're
going
about
it
in
such
a
way
to
where
it
would
be
initially
a
lease
term.
J
N
J
N
With
respect
thereto
under
the
first
of
this
section
and
vite
proposals
from
and
make
all
pertinent
information
available
to,
private
redevelop
errs
or
any
persons
interested
in
undertaking
to
redevelop
or
rehabilitate
the
a
Community
Redevelopment
area,
or
any
part
thereof.
So,
to
answer
your
question
whether
you
sell
it
or
you
lease
it,
you
have
to
Verte
eyes
it.
What.
N
L
So
speaking
from
experience,
I
really
have
no
desire
to
go
through
the
RFP
process.
Again,
I
felt
it
was
not
beneficial
to
any
party
from
the
city
staff
to
the
CRA
board
to
the
applicants.
It
was
almost
embarrassing
at
times
so
not
being
able
to
really
speak
to
the
applicants
until
the
RFP
process
started
was
difficult.
In
my
opinion,
from
a
board
member
I
felt
like
the
public
comment
and
the
public
didn't
really
get
to
see
what
was
being
proposed
as
well
from
a
transparency
standpoint.
L
A
B
B
A
V
A
N
F
N
About
how
that
process
was
going
to
work?
Okay,
so
20
minutes
for
presentation,
followed
by
questions
and
answers.
The
presentations
would
be
made
based
upon
the
order
of
when
the
proposals
were
received.
Only
1%
of
group
would
be
allowed
in
the
room
at
a
time
here.
I
think
that,
because
you're
not
doing
it
by
RFP,
you
know
should
be
open
to
the
public
and
the
second
presenter
should
be
in
the
room
as
the
same
as
the
first
presenter.
So
they
get
the
information
at
the
same
time.
J
V
J
J
Can
I
mean
I
think
we
would
probably
need
the
board's
direction
to
do
that
right.
But
if
we,
if
the
understanding
is,
is
that
we
have
two
applicants
who
are
basically
near-complete
within
their
application
and
we
have
to
wait
30
days
to
begin
with
right.
Mr.
Turney,
that's
right!
Okay!
So
why
not
go
ahead
and
initiate
the
advertisement
on
Monday,
so
the
clock
will
start
ticking
because
we
can't
even
hear
for
30
days.
So
if
the
applicants
are
in
so.
N
There's
two
ways
to
do
it:
you
can
do
the
30
day
notice
and
then
have
the
presentations
made
some
time
after
that
30
days
or
you
can
move
forward.
With
regard
to
the
two
that
you
currently
have.
You
just
need
to
understand
that
if
anybody
comes
in
in
that
30
day
cap
that
you
would
also
have
to
hear
that
sometime
in
the
future,
obviously
it
would
be
smarter
to
hear
them
all
at
the
same
time,
right.
N
Is
getting
the
upper
hand
on
so
those
people
that
are
looking
at
the
advertisement
can't
look
at
the
proposal
number
one
a
proposal
number
two
and
take
advantage
basically
of
you
know
what
they're
seeing
by
making
a
proposal
that
would
basically
outweigh
the
proposals
that
you
currently
have.
So
my
suggestion
is:
do
the
presentation,
after
the
30
day
window
was
passed
for
everyone,
including
the
two
that
are
currently
in
the
pipeline?
I
agree.
A
P
U
Vatikiotis
538
West
Cedar
Street
I'm,
going
to
be
a
little
selfish
here.
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Terry
as
far
as
a
30
day
notice
and
the
settlement
of
the
rest
of
commission,
the
first
real
meeting
in
April
is
going
to
be
April,
28th,
I,
believe
and
I.
Think
that
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
earliest
opportunity
that
you'll
be
able
to
hear
any
of
the
presentations
unless
I'm
wrong
that
this
will
be
through
the
CRA
and
perhaps
other
than
the
swearing-in
ceremony,
which
would
be
April
14th.
You
could
have
a
CRNA
meeting
after
that.
U
So
I'd
like
to
be
part
of
this,
because
we're
so
close
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at
and
then
the
other
question.
A
couple
of
other
questions
is
just
something
on
ex
parte
communications,
as
part
of
I
know
that
one
group
that
has
proposed
something
has
been.
This
is
their
third
iteration
I'm
sure
they've
had
conversations
with
commissioners
as
far
as
being
on
their
third
iteration
of
answering
the
mail.
One
was
a
letter
of
intent.
Second
was
a
answering
the
application,
which
evidently
wasn't
good
enough
and
now
they're.
You
know
who
you
know.
U
Just
basically
putting
plans
together
and
everything
to
try
and
satisfy
the
requirements,
and
if
that's
the
case-
and
we
take
a
little
more
informal
approach,
I
think
that
we
need
to
recognize
that
at
some
point
the
applications
need
to
be
deemed
complete
and
I
understand
the
application
process,
but
right
now
somewhat
nebulous
as
far
as
what
that
means,
completing
the
application
process,
so
I
wouldn't
want
some
defect
or
something
on
the
part
of
the
staff
saying
well.
You
didn't
provide
this
to
us.
U
Therefore
you're
not
going
to
be
one
of
the
two
proposers
on
whatever
date
you
choose
to
have
it
so
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
little
more
clarity
on
that
one
would
be
the
ex
parte
communication
and
number
two
would
be
the
what's
expected
of
the
respondents
at
this
point
in
terms
of
an
application
process
and
again
from
a
realistic
perspective.
Unless
you
decide
to
have
a
separate
CRA
on
the
night,
every
sworn-in,
the
earliest
state
would
be
April
28th.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
Building
that
we
lost
there,
a
beautiful
historic
building,
because
of
then
at
that
time
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
didn't
want
to
allow
us.
You
weren't
on
the
board,
then
did
not
allow
us
to
go
and
try
to.
We
asked
them
to.
Let
us
try
to
get
some
grant
money
to
restore
the
building
and
they
refused
and
gave
a
presentation
to
the
board
at
that
time
and
said:
no,
no,
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
I
It
needs
to
come
down
and
the
previous
owner
of
Acropolis
meat
market
also
came
and
offered
to
help
monetarily
to
save
the
building.
We
lost
a
beautiful
building
and
I.
Just
do
it.
I,
don't
know
if
you
knew
that
Commissioner
Donovan
or
not,
but
it
was
a
beautiful
hardware
store
years
ago.
An
outstanding
hardware
store
all
the
way
around
the
Panhandle
screws
chains,
boat
equipment
that
was
needed,
nails
that
came
there
Pete
they
ordered
from
that
hardware
store
and
the
Fanta
was
a
feint.
I
N
Yeah,
so
here's
some
additional
information
we
need
from
you.
So
it
was
a
really
good
point
when
mr.
vadik
Yoda
said
relative
to
having
a
completion
date
for
applications,
so
I
guess
we
need
to
work
backwards.
So
we
need
to
pick
a
date
for
the
CRA
meeting
and
then,
let's
pick
a
cut-off
date
for
when
the
applications
or
proposals
must
be
complete.
Obviously
you
know
there
should
be
at
least
10
days
prior
to
the
meeting.
F
N
L
K
Probably
if
the
ad
goes
out,
you
know,
even
you
know,
by
the
time
you
know
we
got
to
get
it
when
the
newspapers
go.
Is
gonna,
be
sometime
mid
next
week,
so
you're
still
talking
about
you
know
30
days
you're
still
talking
around
the
week
of
the
20th,
the
24th
would
be
the
earliest.
Those
30
days
would
be
up
because
you
got
to
get
it
into
circulation,
so
it
could
be
ready
when
they
hope
we
work
on
this.
K
O
A
K
N
D
A
L
F
L
B
A
N
U
S
N
L
K
L
J
N
Don't
do
that?
Okay,
when
I
have
a
regular
Commission
meeting
with
my
Commission
I
focus
on
them,
and
so
when
my
other
cities
change
a
date
or
at
a
date,
you
know
that's
the
open
door
for
another
attorney
to
cover
it.
So
I
don't
feel
comfortable
I
wouldn't
do
that
to
you.
I,
wouldn't
not
a
regular
media
that
that's!
Why
that's
the
case,
yeah
I'm,
okay,
I,
read
it
all
the
same.
When
you
have
a
meeting
I'm
gonna
be
here,
won't.
N
B
K
L
L
F
N
N
A
N
Just
one
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
at
the
prior
meeting
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
just
recently
had
a
hearing
I
think
I
provided
the
documentation
to
everyone
here
about
the
surplus
dollars
that
we
had
yeah
I
provided
the
check
to
Irene
tonight.
It
was
for
roughly
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars,
recovery
on
some
abatement,
liens
and
code
enforcement
liens
on
the
duty,
more
pettite
property,
so
that
that
issue
has
been
closed
at
this
point
and
obviously
those
funds
will
be
placed
wherever
the
city
manager
puts
those
funds.
I.
K
Note
that
note
was
going
on
for
our
city,
man,
that
that
case
and
getting
a
settlement
on
the
thing
is
well
over
ten
years
Wow
going
on
that
we
never
thought
we'd
get
resolved
in
getting
sixty
seven,
thousands,
just
amazing.
They
get
that
nuisance
of
no
Cleave
village.
That's
been
a
nuisance
for
twelve
thirteen
fourteen
years
to
get
that
done
and
then
get
that
kind
of
money
back
and
nice
long
long
process
sometimes,
but
it's
coming
to
fruition.
K
E
L
To
be
set
aside,
this
coming
budget
year
in
2020
and
then
also
playing
for
2022
I
know,
interest
rates
are
low.
Also,
so
I
think
we
within
this
area
we
should
be
able
to
get
pretty
creative
on
addressing
a
pretty
big
need
of
which
is
parking
within
the
downtown
district.
A
couple
things
I
want
to
follow
up
on
an
F
Karen
came
back
pretty
quick
with
the
grant
the
grant
language
for
the
within
the
CRA
I
know.
There's
we
also
discussed
about
the
clock
and
then
the
archway
over
the
trail.
L
K
Right
now,
what
the
concentrations
I
work
on
is
the
video
for
the
archway
of
the
docks,
so
I
was
working
on
that
first
and
then
next,
in
my
line,
would
you
do
hopefully
see
soon
we're
gonna
put
on
a
request
for
proposals
or
something
like
that.
Looking
at
some
plans
for
the
archway,
it
may
be
the
same
process.
We
look
at
something
across
there
for
the
CRA.
If
we
look
at
with
the
process
and
since
we've
got
someone
local
who
we
know
he's
gonna
make
a
proposal
on
it
and
stuff.
K
The
clock
we
should
be
ready.
We
should
be
ready
with
the
new
board
to
bring
back
some
ideas
and
a
couple
places
the
load.
We
should
be
able
to
do
that
pretty
fast.
The
list,
all
the
list
of
things
that
you
decide
on
the
CRA
we're
actively
working
on
and
getting
going
to
bring
back
those
items
that
we
went
through
electricity
for
the
up
lining
all
those
things
we
talked
about
the
department's
responsible
or
actively
doing
that
and
you're
going
to
see
those
coming
back
real
soon
in
the
new
commission
year.