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B
A
Tonight
is
our
first
budget
work
session.
We
had
a
preliminary
meeting
earlier,
but
tonight
we
actually
get
into
the
funding
and
we
have
another
one
scheduled
for
july
28th
and
the
city
manager
has
broken
up
the
departments.
There's
actually
three
parts
to
this
evening.
A
One
is
the
department
budgets,
but
we're
only
going
to
hear
from
public
services,
procurement,
human
resources,
fire
police
information
technology
and
finance
on
july,
28th,
we'll
hear
from
the
building
department,
cultural,
economic
development,
city,
clerk
planning,
public
works
and
public
administration,
and
then
also
we're
going
to
talk
this
evening
about
the
capital
projects
and
the
american
rescue
plan
act
as
far
as
the
funding
for
those
and
then
also
the
city
manager,
has
some
miscellaneous
items
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
as
well.
A
So
for
the
purposes
of
the
meeting,
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
this
done
smoothly
so
that
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
repetition,
each
department
head
will
get
up
and
be
ready
to
answer
questions.
A
Let's
get
those
questions
out
of
the
way,
so
we
don't
example
do
vice
mayor
lunt
and
then,
when
we
get
around
to
commissioner
he's
got
a
question
on
that
same
line
minimum
as
well,
so
we
can
see
if
we
can
expedite
this
process.
So
let's
get
started
city
manager
la
course.
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
you
now.
Okay,.
C
Again,
this
is
the
this
is
the
first
start
where
we
don't
have
any
presentations
to
give
you
we're
already
here
to
answer
questions,
as
the
mayor
said,
so
paul's
available
and
available
for
any
questions
on
the
many
areas
that
he
has
under
control.
D
If
I
may
just
start
with
a
few
comments,
paul
smith,
public
services
director-
thank
you-
I
want
to
mention
my
leadership
teams
here
tonight
from
various
divisions
provide
any
other
background
information.
If
we
need
that,
and
also
the
sustainability
budget
is
a
brand
new
budget
proposed
for
fiscal
year,
23
and
you'll
notice.
It's
not
listed
under
the
public
services
divisions,
but
it
is
one
of
our
functions
and
sustainability
coordinator.
Robin
reeves
is
here
as
well
tonight
to
answer
any
questions
on
that
brand
new
budget
proposed.
Thank
you.
A
F
I
just
had
a
quick
question
paul
at
one
point,
you're
working
on
some
type
of
a
solar
panel
program
for
the
whole
city.
I
know
there's
some
solar
panel
additional
solar
panels
going
in
out
at
the
water
plant,
which
is
great
to
see.
Has
there
been
any
other
progress
with
the
solar
panels
for
other
buildings
like
city
hall
or
the
library
or
the
gym,
or
the
public
safety
building.
D
That's
a
project
that
I've
been
talking
to
both
project
administration,
bob
robertson
and
public
works
tom
function
about.
I
think
it's
going
to
take
a
team
effort,
probably
with
the
inclusion
of
building
development
as
well
or
building
department,
to
make
sure
that
what
we
propose
is
actually
going
to
be
feasible.
We've
spoken
with
procurement
on
the
best
way
to
do
it.
I've
also
talked
to
some
other
cities,
so
we've
done
a
lot
of
groundwork
to
try
to
get
this
project
planned
out
and
proposed,
but
that's
about
the
extent
of
the
progress
so
far.
A
A
Eisner,
I'm
good
commissioner
curios
go
ahead
and
I'll
get
back
to
you,
commissioner.
Carr
go
ahead,
no
comment,
commissioner.
Carr.
F
I
see
sewage
collection,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
thinking
of
trash
collection,
that's
under
tom
funchkin,
right
mark,
yes,
okay,
all
right,
nevermind.
A
Okay,
the
only
thing
that
I'm
gonna
and
I
haven't
seen
it
yet
as
far
as
the
golf
course
if
we
can
still
get
that
list
of-
and
you
may
already
be
working
on
this-
the
list
of
improvements
that
from
remember-
we
talked
about
a
to
z
as
far
as
what
the
golf
course
would
like
to
do
over,
let's
say
a
five
or
ten
year
period
to
actually
program
those
out,
so
we
can
include
them
in
some
kind
of
a
planning
document
for
programming.
A
G
G
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
was
I
crunched
some
numbers
and
they
don't
add
up
not
yours
per
se,
but
it
just
seems
that
we
have
more
requests
for
needs
versus
the
funds
that
we
have
so
I
kind
of
gave,
as
I
spoke
with
city
manager
earlier,
some
of
the
some
of
the
ideas
that
we
could
come
up
with,
and
this
is
just
for
everybody.
G
G
Cutting
everybody
and
and
not
us
making
the
decision,
but
the
department
heads
making
the
decision,
because
I
I
don't
know
what
you
where
you
can
sharpen
your
pencil
where
you
can't,
but
I
know
as
it
sits
right
now.
I
had
an
issue
where
I
don't
know
how
the
other
commissioners
looked
it
over,
but
there's
from
what
I
saw
at
least
from
the
numbers
that
I
got,
which
I
later
found
out
were
not
100,
but
we
were
off
by
about
eight
million
dollars.
So
I
don't
know
how
to
make
that
up.
G
A
So
that's
we
always
have
more
projects
than
we
have
money
and
one
of
the
issues
has
been.
We
haven't
really
associated
a
year
an
out
year,
a
program
year,
an
estimated
date
of
when
we
would
begin
construction,
even
if
it's
beyond
the
five-year
horizon-
and
I
think
that's
what
the
city
manager
is
going
to
talk
about.
So
it's
something
that
I
think
from
my
perspective.
We
should
have
been
doing
a
long
time
ago,
but
we're
going
to
start
doing
it
now.
So.
H
D
That's
something
we
put
together
a
proposal
for
arpa
rather
quickly,
and
that
was
one
of
the
projects
that
was
put
forward
as
a
possibility,
as
as
you
know,
and
we'll
talk
about
it
more
in
item
too,
it's
very
over
subscribed
at
this
point,
so
we're
going
to
continue
at
least
we've
got
some
ideas.
We've
got
a
concept,
but
we've
got
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
pay
for
it.
D
If
the
arpa
funding
isn't
going
to
be
available.
For
that,
you
know
rough
numbers,
one
and
a
half
million
dollars,
probably
something
in
that
range.
It's
a
big
project,
then
we're
looking
at
you
know
handling
our
debt
first.
The
good
news
on
the
whole
thing
is
the
golf
course
is
doing
historically.
Well,
I
mean
we're
already
past
our
whole
year,
whole
fiscal
year's
revenue,
and
at
the
end
of
may
we
already
passed
it
up
our
projections,
so
we're
doing
way
better
than
expected,
and
we
hope
that
trend
continues.
D
D
H
C
C
A
All
I'm
going
to
say
is
that
I,
I
know
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
challenging
time.
Many
of
our
projects
are
rfps
are
coming
back
a
lot
more
a
lot
higher
than
what
our
budget
estimates
are
or
cost
estimates
are.
So
we
realize
it's
not
your
fault.
I
don't
need
to
say
that,
but
but
I
understand
it's
a
challenging
time
too.
So
the
other
issue
is,
of
course,
unexpected
situations
with
contractors
deciding
to
bail
out
on
us
like
the
gross
avenue
thing.
A
So
I'm
mentioning
these
for
primarily
for
the
residents
that
are
watching
to
recognize
that
a
lot
of
these
things
are
beyond
our
control
and
and
we
just
we
don't-
have
a
crystal
ball
to
expect
these
things
and
and
they
are
coming
back
higher
than
what
we
expected,
and
I
think
you
do
an
excellent
job.
Thank.
E
E
Rashmir
alone
catch
up
time.
We
do
a
lot
of
our
procuring
by
piggybacking
onto
other
entities
contracts.
B
The
departments
are
responsible
for
their
individual
contract
management
and
then
we
do
like
a
spreadsheet
of
the
overall
contracts
that
are
on
a
term
so
every
year
we
know
what's
coming
due,
we
check
the
balances.
We
make
sure
that
the
departments
are
keeping
in
line
with
what
needs
to
be
renewed.
B
We
on
the
spreadsheet,
we
we
mark
the
dates,
so
we
have
a
a
master
spreadsheet
that
we
keep
in
our
office
for
everyone
and
then,
basically,
it
has
the
the
beginning
date,
the
end
date,
and
then
we
issue
the.
If
it's
a
blanket
purchase
order,
we'll
issue
the
blanket
purchase
order
and
it
will
also
have
the
expiration
date
with
the
amount.
So
we
know
when
each
one
is
due
that
they're
within
the
time
frame.
I.
B
C
B
Oh
okay,
so
we
have
several
avenues.
Excuse
me,
one
of
our
main
ones
is
the
tampa
cooperative
tampa
bay
cooperative.
So
they
really
do
a
lot
of
bids
that
we
are
included
on
as
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
and
we
give
them
our
estimates
every
year.
So
that's
one
way
we
find
contracts
is
that
am
I
going
down
the
right
avenue.
B
So
that's
one
way
we
get
a
majority
of
our
contracts
are
local,
like
pinellas
county
city
of
clearwater,
the
tampa
bay
cooperative.
We
use
a
lot
of
those.
We
also
look
within
the
state
of
florida,
such
as
a
few
of
the
chemical
contracts,
because
the
pricing
is
much
better,
then
there's
the
national
contracts.
So
there
are
several
national
cooperatives
out
there.
We
have
one
called
omnia,
we
have
the
source.
Well,
we
have
the
sheriff's
association
contracts.
B
So
when
someone
comes
to
us
and
they
want
to
use
one
of
these
contracts,
our
first
thing
is
to
look
up
the
contract
make
sure
it's
still
valid.
We
check
all
the
the
bid
procedures,
the
bid
tabs.
We
get
all
the
information
that
we
can
to
try
and
make
sure
everything
is
good
to
go
with
using
that
contract.
A
Good
question
anything
else
from
ms
lewis:
go
ahead.
H
B
We
advertise,
we
have
the
city
advertisement,
then
there's
the
state
of
florida
jobs
board,
and
then
we
also
use
our
own
internal
contracting
sites,
which
is
the
florida
organization
purchasing
procurement.
And
then
we
use
the
national
as
well.
H
A
Thank
you,
ms
niffen
vice
mayor
lon,.
I
Targeting
tarpon
springs
high
school
students
who
were
going
to
go
into
grade
12
in
the
fall,
so
we
would
send
out
the
applications
for
people.
Students
to
fill
in
the
police
department
was
very
helpful
with
their
sros
and
getting
applications
back
department
heads
were
able
to
have
jobs
that
they
needed
filled.
For
example
I.t.
A
Commissioner,
we'll
do
that.
One
later,
commissioner
clark
proceed.
F
The
other
question
is
pertaining
to
the
liability,
insurance
and
property
casualty.
We
talked
about
that.
I
think
that
was
going
out
the
bit
at
some
point.
Yes,.
I
F
I
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Eisner
nothing,
commissioner
curias.
I
H
I
I
A
Okay,
thank
you,
ma'am.
Does
anybody
else
have
a
question,
a
question
on
that
there
is
a
that's
the
one
thing
I
I
went
through
the
budget
advisory
committee
recommendations
and
they
were
given
a
list.
It's
a
little
dated
right
now
as
far
as
openings
and
and
things
of
that
nature
and
where
we
were
in
the
hiring
process-
and
it
may
be
a
good
thing
if
I
I
was
assuming
you've
got
a
plan
of
updating
that
and
then
providing
that
to
the
commission
as
well.
C
Yes,
and
tomorrow
I
was
going
to
as
I
talked
I
talked
to
you
today,
we
need
to
update.
We
gave
that
list
a
budget
advisor,
but
I
know
I've.
I've
been
signing,
we've
been
finding
some
people
hire
I've
been
signing
the
hiring
thing
so
we'll
get
it
updated
up
to
now
a
new
one
and
we'll
send
it
to
all
the
commissioners
of
where
we
are
with
open
positions.
A
The
reason
why
that's
important
is
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
money,
that's
been
budgeted,
but
these
positions
have
been
open.
So
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
september
30th
there
may
or
may
not
be
some
money
from
that
that
would
be
rolled
over
into
this
current
budget,
which
would
be
available
for
some
of
the
other
things
as
well.
So
that's
a
good
question.
Okay,.
F
K
C
C
C
C
We
have
a
fire
department
and
chief
meisner
is
he's
going
to
be
presenting
taking
chief
young's
place
tonight.
A
Okay,
vice
mayor
lon,.
F
Yeah,
thanks
for
being
here,
craig
yeah,
with
the
additional
calls
going
out
of
station
six.
Nine.
Do
you
feel
like
you
need
more
staff
there
to
help
with
that?
I
know:
there's
some
applications
out
for
safer
grant
and
some
other
things
with
the
county.
Do
you
think
we
could
get
along
until
those
come
along
in
the
next
year
or
yeah.
J
The
majority
reason
for
the
safer
grant
and
the
staff
is
to
try
and
get
the
rescue
unit
staffed.
So
we
have
two
als
units
running
out
of
that
station,
because
the
volume
has
gotten
to
a
point
where
that's
going
to
be
a
need,
but
I
think
we'll
wait
and
see
how
that
goes,
because
we
have
both
the
safer
grant
out
and
then
we
have
we've
been
working
with
the
county.
C
Tell
them
a
little
bit
about
the
county
and
the
opportunity,
which
is
why,
when
I
gave
you
the
list
of
positions,
I
said
the
police
were
on
it,
because
the
fire
has
a
good
chance,
we're
very
close
with
numbers
for
the
county
to
fund
more.
Could
you
tell
them
a
little
about
that,
because
that's
important
in
in
where
we
were
talking
about
positions
and
the
great
opportunity
of
us
being
real
close
to
getting
county
funded
positions?
To
add
to
that
so.
J
10
calls
per
shift
per
day
out
of
that
one
station,
and
right
now,
last
year
we
averaged
about
nine
calls
eight
point
just
about
nine
calls,
and
this
year
right
now
we're
currently
somewhere
averaging
so
far
this
year,
around
11
little
over
11
calls.
So,
of
course,
it's
obviously
in
arrears
when
the
county
does
that
so
they'll
be
looking
at
this
upcoming
years
through
january.
J
For
that
number,
so,
when
they're
doing
their
budget
for
next
year,
hopefully
we'll
fit
those
volume
and
that
will
qualify
us
for
that
extra
staffing
from
the
county
and
they
would
staff.
Basically
it's
three
more
medic
positions
and
the
the
and
a
little
extra
for
the
backfill
for
vacation
days
and
things
like
that,
so
it
would
be
they
call
it.
It
would
be
one
full
fte,
a
b
and
c
shift.
So
it's
three
medics,
that's
what
that
would
end
up
being.
C
J
We
did
we
went
this
past
this
year
during
the
budget
process
and
we
didn't
qualify
because
it
was
last
year's
numbers,
so
it
was
nine
calls
per
shift
okay
a
little
under,
but
this
year's
been
busier.
So
if
we
go
and
buy
this
year's
numbers
up
to
date
year
to
date,
of
course,
if
for
some
reason
it
were
to
slow
down,
but
it
doesn't
look
that
way.
F
And
can
you
get
me
some
of
those
numbers
I
would
like
to
connect
with
or
mark?
I
would
like
to
connect
with
our
county
commission
about
that
sure,
try
to
push
that
along
further
to
make
sure
that's
funded
next
year
and
maybe,
if
they
could
do
it
earlier,
yeah.
J
F
J
J
If
one
of
our
units
is
out
on
a
call,
it's
the
concurrent
call
that
comes
in
so
about
response
times.
It's
usually
a
concurrency
issue
for
our
area,
because
we
have
one
unit
running
out
of
each
station.
So
when
six
nine
runs
a
call
and
another
call
comes
in
the
six
nines
area
for
station
70
to
come
up
to
69
dario
station
71
to
come
up,
they
generally
won't
make
that
first
response
call
but
we're
seeing
better
times
with
the
new
system
with
avl,
which
is
the
gps
location,
closest
unit
response.
J
A
I
have
a
question
along
that
line.
Does
anybody
else
have
a
question
on
that
line
or
what
we're
talking
about
right
now?
So
I
guess
the
bottom
line.
Is
you
a
couple
of
things
one?
You
don't
hire
the
people
ahead
of
time
because
then
they
wouldn't
reimburse
us
for
that
and
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
hire
people
until
we've
got
the
medal
in
place
and
we
don't
have
that
yet.
Is
that
correct
or
or
is?
Am
I
wrong
about
that.
J
C
J
Yeah,
so
the
rescue
unit
is
probably
a
year
year
and
a
half
to
build.
So
that's.
C
J
B
J
J
J
That
safer
grant
is
just
like
our
the
time
we
had
before
it's
percentages,
so
they
would
pay
for
a
percentage
of
75
percent
for
the
first
year
and
then
it
drops
in
the
second
year,
and
then
it
drops
down
the
third
year
and
then
the
city
would
be
responsible
for
maintaining
those
levels.
After
that,
okay.
J
I'm
not
exactly
sure
we
don't
set
that
you
know
that's
usually
set
from
ron.
Do
you
know
the
water
and
sewage
on
our
yes.
K
Yeah
we've
been
looking
at
the
history
of,
in
fact
I
asked
scott
and
his
staff
to
look
into
it
because
we
did
see
an
increase
in
our
water
and
sewer.
So
we
are
looking
at
to
see
what's
going
on
with
why
it
increased
so
much,
but
usually
we
do
it
based
on
the
averages
for
the
past
three
years
and
what's
going
on
the
current
year
when
we're
looking
at
it,
but
we
did
see
a
spike
up
in
it,
so
we're
trying
to
look
into
see
what's
going
on
there.
K
G
G
F
I
think,
commissioner
eisner,
if
you
look,
there's
the
top
rows.
There's
the
original
budget,
the
revised
budget
and
the
actual
year
to
date-
and
I
think
the
year
to
date
between
the
year
to
date
and
the
proposed
budget
for
23
could
look
larger
because
we
still
have
june
july
august
september,
four
months
left
in
this
year's
budget.
So
that's
why
it
could
look
even
higher
because.
K
G
Yeah,
what
is
the
inter-department
allocation.
K
I
was
wondering
if
somebody
would
ask
about
that
ready
for
that
one.
Well,
what
that
is
we?
What
we
do
we
get
money
from
the
county
for
both
you'll,
see
it
in
the
library
and
the
fire
department.
So
what
mostly?
What
it
is?
It's
administrative
charges
like
for
finance?
What
does
finance
do
for
the
fire
department,
so
we're
allocating
those
charges?
You'll
see
a
credit
in
the
finance
department,
but
you'll
see
a
charge
going
into
the
fire
department.
K
Basically,
we're
allowed
to
put
those
charges
into
the
fire
department
and
the
library
department
and
increases
the
reimbursement
that
we
will
get
from
the
county
for
the
fire
for
the
finance
department,
services,
procurement,
I.t,
building
maintenance
parks,
if
they're
maintaining
the
yards
there.
So
our
way
of
handling
it
is
to
charge
the
fire
and
library
departments
for
those
we
charge
those
departments
and
then
credit
the
other
departments
within
the
city
that
makes
sense.
G
G
K
C
C
In
these
budget
meetings,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
times
of
september
and
the
public
hearings
and
stuff
we
open
ourselves
up
running
departments
for
additional
questions
or
or
big
there'll,
be
many
items
you
get
to,
otherwise
that
that
needs
some
explanation
too,
and
all
of
you
are
available
to
set
up
times
and
we'll
go
over
that.
In
fact,
all
inner
apartment
allocation
stuff
would
be
a
good
item
to
sit
down
and
go
through.
C
So
any
commissioner,
this
is
not
the
end,
paul
smith
and
everybody's
sitting
down
and
you
had
one
crack
at
and
stuff.
You've
got
plenty
of
time
to
look
through
and
find
other
things
and
then
and
then
the
apartments
are
open
to
sit
down
and
meet
with
you
and
and
get
you
the
resting
answers.
It's
not
your
only
chance
to
get
answers.
We
got
two
more
months
to
get
answers
before
the
the
budget's
finished
and
stuff.
C
So
I
just
wanted
that's
one
of
the
things
I'll
say
at
the
end
on
these
things
and
and
some
of
these
things
believe
me,
I
have
to
be
explained
to
three
or
four
times
with
accounting
and
stuff
to
understand,
so
these
are
good
things
to
set
up
meetings
and
sit
down
and
I'm
making
everybody
available
for
the
whole
duration
of
the
budget.
I'm
for
that
and
that'd
be
a
good
place
to
to
do
that
with
for
any
of
you
who
want
to
talk
about
certain
things
like
that,
that's
really
detailed.
H
Yes,
as
commissioner
carr
brought
up,
the
the
resp
is
the
response
time
from
the
palm
harbor
station
that
comes
in
services,
klostermann,
road
and
carlton
good.
J
Yeah
so
palm
harvard's,
six,
seven
station
six,
seven
to
certain
areas
off
of
classroom
and
road.
They
will
because
of
avl.
Their
gps
is
actually
located
closer
than
six
nine
traveling
up
19
then
down
classroom,
and
they
can
come
right
up
basically
belcher
road
and
right
across
distant
into
certain
areas
of
oakley
village.
They
will
get
there
generally
a
little
bit
faster
than
691,
but
it's
we're
talking
about.
You
know
like
a
30-second
difference
or
so,
but
abl
is
set
for
that,
so
they
they
do
it
that
way.
H
C
J
C
List,
if,
for
some
reason,
when
we
get
to
the
next
part-
and
we
decide
to
move
the,
you
know-
state
move
the
fire
station.
If
we
were
to
move
the
fire
station
down
in
years
like
move
it
back
a
couple
years
or
space
it
that
way,
then
we
would
do.
We
would
need
to
do
some
improvements
to
the
to
the
pre.
Those
things
would
need
to
be
brought
forward
and
funded
because
we
need
to
improve
so
we're
not
looking
at
the
next
three
or
three
or
so
years
of
of
getting
a
fire
station.
C
Then
there'd
be
some
things
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
do
now
with
it,
so
a
lot's
going
to
depend
on
where,
where
the
the
building
of
the
new
fire
station
comes
in
in
your
budgeting,
but
that's
why
you
see
items
that
are
still
on
the
not
funded
list?
Yes,
because
they
may
need
to
be
funded
depending
on
the
years
we
space
out
when
the
fire
station
is
going
to
be
built.
Okay,.
H
K
Well,
our
practice
through
our
payroll
budget
module
has
been
to
budget.
You
talk
about
the
retirement,
we're
funding
the
what
the
actuary
tells
us.
We
need
to
fund
for
the
fire
and
police
pension
union
contracts.
Our
practice
has
been
just
to
fund
through
the
position
title.
What
the
position
is
and
fund
the
amounts.
It's
not
that
they're
getting
that
pension.
The
actuary
tells
us.
How
much
is
the
city's
contribution
required
because
the
fire
might
be
about
850
000,
so
it
but
we're
just.
K
G
Going
back
to
what
commissioner
cooley
has
said,
regarding
that
firehouse,
can
we
have
a
listing
of
what
is
needed
to
maintain
what's
presently
there
and
how
much
it'll
cost
to
kind
of
do
an
upgrade
versus
the
price
of
replacement
so
that
we
have
a
a
way
to
justify
whether
it's
a
go
or
no.
C
Yeah
what
we
have
now
is
in
the
list
that
you
have
that
I
gave
you
on
things
that
I
c
my
cut
list.
I
don't
know
what
ron
titled
it
when
we
gave
it
to
you
last
time,
but
it's
things
that
were
in
the
budget
but
are
not
funded,
because
I
took
it
out
of
the
budget.
We
have
those
and
we'll
put
those
together
with
anything
else.
We
may
be
anticipate.
C
That
would
be
this
year's
that
we
would
do,
but
there
may
be
something
next
year
and
the
year
after.
So
we
look,
we
look
at
those
things
that
we
need
to
do
over
a
couple.
We'll
add
to
those
numbers
that
you
already
have
and
do
one
thing
of
what
it
proves
we
need
in
those
three
years
if
it
was
to
refurbish
and
keep
that
going
until
we
did
a
new
one
later
to
let
you
look.
C
E
Fire
station
does
it,
does
it
fall
under
this
budget
or
does
it
fall
under
defense?
Public
works
budget
who
maintains
the
building
the
fire
station
building.
C
C
Well,
that's
not
complete
your
mind,
that's
the
repairs.
We'd
have
to
do
that.
We
need
to
be
doing.
That's
repairs
we'd
be
needing
to
do.
Oh,
my
god.
Okay,
like
I
forget,
I
forget
the
list,
you
don't
have
that.
I
know
you
got
that
budget
memory.
What
were
the
things
on
the
list
like
flooring,
some
flooring.
E
I'm
sorry,
but
it
sounds
to
me,
like
those
kind
of
repairs
need
to
be
done
anyway,
because
I
don't
think
even
if
we
decide
by
the
time
the
budget's
here
that
we're
going
to
build
a
new
building,
it's
going
to
take
considerable
time
to
let
it
out
to
bid
to
get
it
built
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
they
have
to
live
in
this
station.
For
maybe
the
next
year,
18
months,
two
years.
C
Yeah,
that
may
be
true,
and
that's
where
some
of
those
other
funds
that
we
talked
about
may
become
available,
that
we
might
might
do
during
that
time,
but
there'd
be
more
extensive
ones.
That
would
have,
I
think,
what
might
what
would
be
more
extensive
ones
if
it
was
put
back.
That
would
be
another
list
to
go
on
to
these
of
extensive.
We
weren't
even
going
to
start
for
three
years.
C
There
might
be
some
items
besides
these
just
normal
ones
that
that
we
can
do
and
and
and
move
in
these
would
just
be
ones
to
plug
in
with
money.
If,
if
you
were
looking
at,
what
do
we
need
to
do?
I
think
commissioner's
question:
if
we're
just
going
to
remodel
for
now
and
push
the
fire
station
down
the
road
right,
it
would
obviously
be
more
of
these
things.
These
are
just
some
generic
things.
C
J
On
the
station
commission
the
station's
coming
up
on
it,
it's
going
to
be
close
to
almost
50
years
old.
You
know
so,
and
there
is
county
things
as
well
that
they
do
start
talking
about
it
at
that
50-year
mark
is
that
when
they
want
that
those
stations
you
know
upgraded,
so
just
to
keep
that
in
mind
each
time
we
move
the
station
back
further
you're
increasing
the
cost
of
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
to
build
that
station
too.
J
A
A
After
is
a
great
guy,
but
the
one
thing
it
doesn't
even
come
close
to
meeting
the
current
building
codes
for
wind
loads
and
protection,
and
the
one
issue
is
if
we
do
have
a
storm
and
maybe
maybe
the
newer
homes
are
fine
and
everything,
and
that
firehouse
is
damaged
to
the
extent
that
it
can't
be
used
and
we're
really
in
a
bad
situation.
So
I
I'm
not
calling
wolf
for
crying
wolf
or
anything
like
that,
but
that's
something
to
think
about
as
well.
A
Just
the
overall
protective
level
as
far
as
the
storms
go
and.
C
E
J
Yeah,
so
it
would
be
on
the
same
basic
premise
of
the
one:
that's
on
the
new
station
station
71.
The
newest
station
is.
J
J
You
wouldn't
need
the
training
tower,
because
we
have
that
at
71,
so
it
would
be
the
station
and
we
would
be
increasing
the
size
of
the
bay
to
three
bays
instead
of
the
two
small
bays
that
we
have
there,
so
we
would
be
able
to
have
our
marine
unit
there,
the
dive
unit,
so
those
things
that
is
that
right
enough,
I
assume
it
is.
K
H
K
Well,
we
get
that
number
from
the
actuary
and
from
what
we
understand.
A
lot
of
unfunded
liabilities
within
the
in
the
fire
pension
versus
the
police
pension
is
such
as
that's.
Why
you're
probably
wondering
why
the
fire
pension
is
more
than
please
pension
and
from
what
I
found
out,
I
believe
the
fire
pension
one
is
going
to
go
down
a
little
bit
this
year.
It's
not
in
the
budget
right
now.
A
Just
just
on
that
note,
I
want
to
just
disclose
to
my
fellow
commissioners
that
we
do
have
a
request
from
the
police
union
contract.
I'm
sorry,
the
police
union
president
to
discuss
that
aspect
that
five
percent
is
it's
tied
to
the
contracts
and
and
she's
asked
to
meet
with
the
city
manager,
myself
and
the
police
chief
next
week.
Sometime
so
we'll,
let
you
know
what's
going
on
with
that
city
manager?
Will
I
won't
so
in
any
case,
I
just
want
to
let
y'all
know
that
there
is
some
a
request
coming
from
the
pba.
A
F
Yeah,
I
ask
this
question:
pretty
much.
Every
year
overtime
is
budgeted
close
to
a
half
million
dollars.
If
you
had
additional
positions,
would
that
help
in
any
regard?
If
you
had,
I
guess
strategic
staffing
right,
because
you
know
you're
gonna
have
call-outs
and
vacation
things
like
that,
but
I
understand
that
you
do
have
based
on
chief
coaching
tell
me
you
have
overtime
regardless
when
you
have
court
cases
come
up
and
things
like
that
or
other
things
correct.
K
And
we
can't
anticipate
crimes.
You
know
there
could
be
large
call
outs
that
we
have
involving
you
know,
a
triple
homicide.
That
puts
a
lot
of
stress
on
the
department
and
over
time,
and
could
it
have
a
positive
effect,
absolutely
with
short
shifts
and
things
of
that
nature,
certain
items
that
we
can
control
with
personnel
staffing,
but
you
have
a
hurricane
and
we're
working
24
hours
a
day.
You
know
for
three
days
if
it
comes
closer
than
our
overtime
budget,
it's
going
to
be
tenfold
as
well
as
the
fire
departments.
During
any
situation
like
that.
K
Absolutely
the
hurricane
season
and
such,
but
any
other
incident
you
know,
could
happen.
We
have
you
know
numerous
incidents
that
may
happen
throughout
a
year
that
be
taxing
on
the
overtime
that
we
can't
control,
but
I
do
think
that
staffing
has
a
positive
effect
on
short
shifts,
even
court
coverage
and
stuff.
K
G
I
have
just
it's
a
bit
of
a
strange
question,
but
that's
been
known
to
come
out
of
my
mouth
before.
Is
there
any
routine,
for
I
traveled
with
the
officer
for
why
I
mean
the
fuel
charges
are
extremely
high.
We
all
know
it's
doubled.
K
Off
well,
when
they
come
to
the
station,
if
they're
going
to
be
there
for
a
long
time,
they're
required
to
shut
their
vehicles
down.
If
they're
going
to
be
going
out
on
a
call
for
service
out
on
a
traffic
stop
or
something
they
need
to
leave
that
vehicle
running
in
case
they
need
to
move
it
or
anything
else,
plus
their
electronic
equipment.
That's
in
the
car,
the
computer.
H
G
K
G
K
G
Is
a
concern
yeah?
Well
I
mean
I
just
see
the
it's,
your
largest
increase
on
there
and
I
look
at
the
monthly.
K
Fuel
costs
and
just
the
fuel
costs
over
you
know
from
beginning
of
this
year,
fifteen
thousand
up
to
twenty
nine
thousand,
the
last
one
fuel
cost
period,
not
consumption,
just
the
cost
of
a
gallon,
and
I
think
that
is
felt
by
everybody.
In.
G
Society
could
there
be
and
then
just
throwing
this
out
there
when
the
weather
cools
down?
Is
it
a
different
issue
as
far
as
cutting
it
off
then,
when
of
course,
the
heat
index
is
not
there.
K
You
know
again
still
the
the
inside
the
vehicle
still
gets.
Hot
it'll
all
depend
on
what
they're
doing,
but
we
looked
at
ways
to
mitigate
that.
G
H
Yes,
mayor,
I
did
want
to
follow
up
with
the
commissioner
carr
and
the
overtime
wages
the
thing
with
the
overtime,
which
is
that
those
officers
that
and
the
way
we're
staffed
right
now
they
they
sort
of
need
them.
They
keep
their
salaries
up
there
there's
other
nearby
municipalities,
where
you
know
the
pay
may
be
the
same,
but
they're
getting
more
overtime
hours.
So,
whether
you
know
their
salary
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
up.
So
that
is
a
benefit
to
the
police
department.
H
D
H
Is
that
usually
special
events
that
private
companies
or
citizens
pay
for
that's
correct,
but.
K
A
All
I've
got
to
say
is
that
the
special
events,
the
you
know,
I
get
to
talk
to
the
police
officers
and
and
sometimes
they're
doing
double
shifts
and
it
and
it's
a
little
surprise
to
them
because
of
the
need.
So
I
know
there's
tremendous
flexibility
in
our
police
department.
They
all
have
a
can-do
spirit.
They
come
through
there,
smile
and
whatever
is
tossed
at
them.
They
handle
it
exceptionally
well.
So
I
very
much
appreciate
that
I.
K
C
E
Actually,
this
looks
pretty
good
to
me
and
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
her
today.
So
I'm
I'm
good
for
right
now
and
somebody
else
brings
up
something
that
gets
my
attention.
F
How's
that
cyber
security
personnel
going
from
last
year
through
this
year.
B
B
That
is
a
logging
system
where
we
take
all
of
the
logs
from
all
of
the
servers,
the
firewalls
together
and
it's
easier
for
us
to
navigate
all
of
the
information
that's
coming
in.
So
it's
going
very
very
well.
We
are
very
satisfied
with
our
position
with
cyber
security
and
everything
is
going
fantastic.
B
B
B
G
B
A
The
I
should
point
out
that
the
fire
department
the
the
way
that
ron
herring
described
it
comes
from
pinellas,
county
emergency
management,
the
reimbursement
for
the
library,
it's
the
pinellas
county
library,
cooperative
that
funds
us
so
that
that's
where
there's
a
distinct.
You
know
how
do
you,
how
do
you?
How
do
you
get
the
library
and
and
the
fire
department?
Well,
there
are
two
different
county
pots
of
money.
Commissioner
curias.
H
B
Adobe
went
from
having
an
on-prem
solution.
Now
it's
all
subscription-based,
you
can't
have
a
pdf
adobe
anymore.
You
have
to
pay
for
the
prescript
subscription,
so
throughout
the
city
I.t
for
all
of
the
departments
chose
to
manage
that
for
them.
So
I
manage
all
of
the
subscriptions
for
the
entire
city
for
the
individuals.
Well,.
H
That
sounds
right.
It's
for
the
whole
city.
It's
really
fun,
and
just
I
was
looking
at-
and
this
may
be
a
question
for
ron
on
the
the
payroll
projections
are:
is
any
some
of
these
employees
split
up
with
pay
in
other
departments
or
is
that
their
salary?
Okay?
I
just.
E
Yeah,
actually,
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
more
than
questions.
I
I
still
need
to
go
through
the
audit
reports
and
stuff
like
that
and
have
further
conversations
with
you.
I
think
we
need
to
perhaps
readdress.
E
I
don't
believe
that
I
don't
know
when
the
last
time
you
took
a
look
at
it
from
the
aspect
of
the
type
of
firewalls.
You
look
at
right
now,
but
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
gartner
magic
quadrant
for
firewalls,
just
out
of
reference
and
I
sort
of
know
what
kind
of
equipment
you
use
looks
where
it
sits,
I
think
we
need
to
bring
it
up
into
the
right
a
little
bit.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind.
The
next
time
you
you
sort
of
look
at
that
area.
A
I
miss
linton.
I
I
still
think
that
it's
one
of
those
areas
that
people
don't
have
a
full
appreciation
of
everything
that
you
do.
I
mean
you've
got
people
at
the
police
department.
You've
got
people
here,
you're
managing
things
at
the
library
all
over
town
and,
of
course,
we've
got
two
or
three
guys
up
there.
Now
working
these
meetings
and
along
as
well
as
all
the
performances
and
everything
else
that
goes
on.
A
E
You
know
I
have
just
a
general
comment
and
I've
already
sort
of
made
this
to
ron.
We
take
a
look
at
budgets
like
this,
especially
spreadsheets,
and,
and
we
look
at
the
variance
but
we're
looking
at
the
variance
from
the
original
budget
from
the
previous
year.
E
Those
budgets
get
massaged
and
changed
and
so
forth
and
revised
during
the
year.
Personally-
and
you
know,
I'm
not
a
finance
person,
so
take
this
with
a
grain
of
salt.
I
I
really
got
a
lot.
I
haven't
finished
sort
of
looking
at
what
I
was
looking,
but
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
variance
from
what
our
revised
budget
was,
because
the
revised
budget
is
reality.
E
A
That's
an
excellent
point
and
a
lot
of
people
overlook
that
as
as
well,
the
budget
that
we're
doing
that's
going
to
be
approved
isn't
going
to
be
quite
that
way
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
and
and
then
for
the
future.
I
think
what
it's
it's
especially
appropriate
with
some
of
the
areas
and
mr
smith
and
I've
had
conversation
about
that
and
starting
out
with
really
really.
I
don't
call
it
good
intention
but
meaningful
intention,
but
there's
things
that
happen.
A
Things
don't
go
as
quickly
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
a
lot
of
the
projects
either
the
project's
getting
cumbered
which
they
roll
in
they
haven't
been
completed.
They
roll
over
or
else
we
just
don't
quite
get
to
that
one
and
that
money
rolls
over
to
the
future
too.
So
I
understand
what
you're
saying
yeah.
E
I
understand
it's
just
for
me.
It
was
an
interesting
analysis.
It
wasn't
that
it
showed
any
great
disparities
or
anything,
but
there
was
some
significant
stuff
it
pointed
out
overall.
So
I
just
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
sort
of
look
at
that
sometime
and
I
know
it's
probably
not
standard
operating
procedures.
So
my
apologies
for
trying
to
tell
you
how
to
do
your
job.
K
Yeah
and
I
guess
when
you're
talking
the
revised
budget,
I
think
in
the
past
they'd
like
to
compare
the
original
ones
when
you
get
the
revised
budget
you're
getting
all
the
projects,
capital
projects
and
encumbrances
from
the
previous
year
are
being
carried
over
in
into
the
into
the.
If
the
budget
you
were
looking
at
is
a
2022
budget.
So
that's
what
the
different.
The
main
point
of
the
difference
is
those
outstanding
items
from
2021
being
carried
over
to
2022.
G
Well,
I
am
back
at
the
inter-department
allocation
again
I'm
going
to
go
right
back
to
that,
but
you're
going
to
say
that
it's
a
I'll,
let
you
say
what
it
is
well.
K
What
I
can
do
is
I
can
provide
you
how
we
work
it
up
each
year
for
the
different
departments
and
stuff
and
based
on
for
the.
I
think
this
one
was
mostly
the
fire
department,
their
budget
increased
as
a
percentage,
so
the
allocation
to
the
fire
for
the
finance
department
increased
well,
like
I
said
I
can
give
you
the
actual
spreadsheet,
to
show
you
how
we
calculate
it
up.
F
So
year
over
year,
over
the
past,
I
don't
know
five
years
I
brought
this
up.
Is
I
can't
remember
what
it's
called?
It's,
not
the
inner
company.
What
you're
talking
about
commissioner
eisner,
but
it's
something
similar
to
where,
like
the
the
water
department,
the
sanitation
department,
I
can't
remember
what
other
departments
are.
The
enterprise
funds
are
actually
putting
money
back
into
the
city's
general
funds.
Can
you
touch
on
that?
A
little
bit
I
mean
I
haven't
been
for
that
in
the
past.
K
Of
dollars
into
the
general
fund
yeah,
it's
a
standard
government
accounting
practice
of
allocating.
Since
the
the
water
and
sewer
funds
stormwater
fund
sanitation
fund
do
not
have
administrative
staff.
All
the
work
administratively
is
being
done
by
the
general
fund.
So
what
we
do
is
we
transfer,
and
what
we've
been
doing
is
that
one
of
the
standards
was
when
we
did
a
survey
for
it
and
we
base
it
on
eight
percent
of
the
charges
for
services
the
revenue
amount.
K
So
each
year
we
calculate
okay,
what's
eight
percent
of
the
charges
for
services
for
water
and
sewer
fund,
and
we
make
that
the
transfer
going
from
the
water
and
sewer
fund
to
the
general
fund
to
help
pay
for
the
administrative
staff
work
that's
being
done
on
on
a
part
of
the
water
and
sewer
funds,
sanitation
fund
and
storm
water
fund?
We
don't
do
one
for
the
golf
course
fund
or
the
marina
fund
due
to
their
financial
constraints.
F
Got
it
all
right
again,
I
I'm
not
in
support
of
eight
percent
and
it's
something
I've
harped
on
over
years
past.
H
And
I
appreciate
the
the
five
percent
across
the
board
for
the
general
employees,
but
is
there
a
way
we
can?
And
hopefully
I
can
get
some
support
on
this
board-
that
some
of
the
salaries
on
some
departments
and
positions
are
really
low,
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
there
if
there
was
a
way
to
have
a
tiered
system.
H
H
You
are
waiting
at
the
beck
and
call
of
the
city
any
point
in
time
to
make
sure
that
something
can
get
done
for
the
resident.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
thoughts
on
that
and
see
if
we
could
come
back,
maybe
in
the
future,
with
either
a
tiered
system
or
making
sure
the
you
know
rank
and
file
lower
level.
Individual
gets
a
higher
percentage
for
this
year
because
it's
out
of
control
right
now,
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
here.
H
C
Number
two
is
look
out
the
audience
and
look
at
paul
smith
trying
to
hide
his
smile.
Go
ahead,
paul,
stop
trying
to
hide
it
and
stuff.
He
has
been
on
a
committee
that
I
formed
about
on-call
pay
and
they've
been
working
on.
They
have
recommendations
still
to
be
incorporated
in
this
budget
and
you'll
start
seeing
salary,
some
additional
salary
stuff
all
you're.
Seeing
now,
but
in
august
we
actually
have
to
come
to
the
board
with
changes
in
grades
and
positions.
Individual
positions
are
low.
C
What
we're
doing
that
end
that
end
is,
is
coming
and
that'll
be
in
in
when
you
when
and
the
reason
we
have
to
go
to
the
board,
not
in
budget
but
to
the
board,
because
the
board
has
to
prove
any
position,
changes
things
like
that,
but
you're
going
to
see
that
policy
on
the
increase
of
call
pay
coming
and
on
the
tiered.
What
what
I'll
get
for
you
and
the
rest
of
the
commission,
especially
the
new
commissioners.
We
have
been
doing
a
tiered.
C
We
have
been
doing
a
tiered,
raise
for
probably
the
last
at
least
four
to
five
years,
getting
those
lowered
people
up
we're
the
point
now
when
you
see
that
personal
life,
which
it's
usually
the
second
meeting
of
august,
when
we
bring
that
to
an
actual
board
meeting
and
talk
about
the
ranges
and
and
everything
you're
gonna
see
the
last
five
years
we've
been
doing,
starting
at
six,
sometimes
seven,
but
at
least
six
five,
four
and
three
going
from
the
lower
ones
and
we've
done
that
to
get
to
the
point
where
you're
gonna
see
this
year,
we
were
working
on
the
goal
that
you
know.
C
I
don't
like
these
national
goals
and
these
goals
people
said,
but
the
thing
to
get
to
15
an
hour
by
2025
or
whatever.
We
tiered
all
those
tier
races
to
get
there
a
couple
years
early
and
we're
going
to
achieve
that
this
year
and
stuff.
So
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
get
to
you
to
show
you
those
tears
that
we're
doing
and
right
now,
we've
got
all
those
level.
C
That's
why,
for
the
first
time,
this
will
be
the
first
time
in
at
least
five
years
that
it's
an
even
across
the
board
to
try
to
move
everybody,
because
we're
also
going
to
ask
to
move
the
ranges.
Five
percent
also
just
to
keep
up
with
the
other
people.
This
is
one
where
we
need
to
do
everybody,
because
everybody's
going
to
catch
us
in
the
county
or
stuff.
C
So
you're
going
to
see
this
a
lot
more
detailed
when
we
actually
come
to
you
with
the
salary
and
some
different
positions
we
want
to
increase
and
that
you're
going
to
be
seeing
that
soon,
it's
usually
not
in
these
first
two
budget
meetings,
but
it's
when
it
comes
to
you
so
you're
going
to
be
seeing
all
this
coming
up
and
they're
working
on
those
kind
of
things.
Right
now
that
you
mentioned
to
look
at
there
are
in
the
process
of
working.
That's
awesome.
A
If
there's
some
other
things,
though,
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
just
list
all
your
thoughts,
yes
and
let
the
city
manager
address,
I
think
we
used
to
call
it
the
living
wage.
You
know
when
I
first
came
on
board.
It
was
called
the
living
wage.
I
asked
the
exact
same
question
and-
and
it's
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
go
on
here-
that
we
don't.
G
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
I
agree
with
the
commissioner
coulis
what
he
just
said,
but
I
also
wanted
to
add
if
we
could
put
in
on
merit
increase,
so
you
know
just
and
have
it
run
more
so
by
department
head.
If
somebody's
you
know
really
putting
out
that
they
should
be
in
a
position
to
move
up
the
tier
just
better
than
someone
who's
not,
and
that's
I'd
like
to
see
that
go
in
as
well.
C
I'll
be
glad
to
talk
personally
about
that.
There's
real
issues
with
that.
We
had
that
here
before
and
there
was
real
irene.
I'm
sure
and
any
of
the
old-timers
can
tell
you
the
real
problems
with
each
department
head
and
what
day
what
they
did
to
try
to
get
a
consistent
pattern
of
of
who
is
meritorious
and
to
get
more
and
stuff
it
was.
It
was
nightmarish,
but
we'll
have
an
individual
that'll,
be
a
long
sit
down
with
you
and
talk
to
you
about
some
of
the
well.
G
E
C
To
do
if,
depending
on
the
rating
ability
of
the
department
heads
who
are
unfortunately
not
on
the
same
plane
about
what
you
just
what
merit
is
and
what
it
is
and
stuff
so.
B
A
That's
a
good
question,
though
yeah
commissioner,
could
ask
you
having
another
question,
because.
H
Commissioner
did
bring
up
the
merit
base
and
I
I've
heard
both
sides
of
the
situation,
but
if
we
could
also
potentially
increase
funding
available
for
and
maybe
incentivize
you
know,
training
and
you
know
we
want
people
to
stay
here.
We
don't
want
people
to
get
trained
and
then
take
off
a
few
months
after
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
incentive
base
or
a
pay
increase,
but
you
know
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to.
You
know,
take
care
of
our
employees
and
give
them
the
most
incentive
they
can.
A
Yeah,
I
think
we're
going
to
get
hit
built
from
both
ends,
one
retention,
people
moving
on
because
the
county,
as
we
had
that
one
one
example
already
an
excellent
employee
going
to
the
county
and
then
also
the
challenge
of
hiring
people
as
well,
that
that's
we're
going
to
get
it
at
both
ends.
Okay,
let's
see,
was
there
anything
else
from
mr
heron?
C
We
need
you
and
really
paul
is
paul
paul
and
tom
they're,
covering
bob
robertson's
on
vacation,
hopefully
they're
up
to
date
to
ask
any
questions
on
these
some
of
these,
these
specific
things,
but
mainly
I
want
to
continue
from
our
conversation
at
the
pre-budget
workshop
hearing
and
stuff
and
what
I
talked
about
the
different
funds
of
money,
the
amount
of
money
that's
available
and
where
it's
the
the
duty
of
this
board,
not
only
for
this
year
but
again
this
this
board,
and
this
budget
is
unusual
because
usually
the
board
does
not
have
a
lot
of
discretionary
money
to
spread
out
and
and
some
years
it's
been
under
200
000
after
you
cover
everything
you
have
to
cover,
there's
been
very
little
money
to
decide
on
projects
and
this
budget
and
next
year's
budget
is
really
going
to
set
the
course
for
the
next
five
years
and
that's
where
all
those
things
were.
C
What
this
big
piece
of
paper,
I
think
in
the
back
up,
you
had
a
little
piece
of
paper,
but
judy
was
able
to
make
this
bigger
this
we
got
together
with
some
other
staff.
Besides
paul
and
stuff,
we
all
got
together
and
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
worksheet
that
if
it
was,
if
it
was
our
decision
from
a
staff
level
and
obviously
you've
got
a
lot
of
other,
you
know
decision
making
things
you
have
to
make
as
a
commission,
but
we
wanted
to
show
you
a
slotting
that
we
would
do
with
the
money.
C
Obviously
there
are
some
things
left
off.
Those
things
left
off
may
be
very
important
to
the
group.
Let's
use
one
as
an
example:
the
hospital
requests
for
funding
from
oprah.
Obviously,
it
wouldn't
be
a
staff
thing
to
put
in
how
staff
would
do
the
money,
but
it
may
be
very
important
to
this
commission
if
it
is
important
to
this
commission.
C
That's
where
you
have
to
look
where
staff
kind
of
put
these
things
and
say
well,
if
we
put
the
million
one
or
whatever
it
is
from
the
hospital
for
the
overhang
project,
we
need
to
move
something
out
of
where
the
staff
put
it
and
we
can
either
move
it
down
the
road.
We
can
move
it
to
penny.
We
can
move
it,
it's
a
lot
of
putting
putting
pegs
in
in
the
slot
type
thing,
so
we
just
this
is
a
working
document.
C
This
isn't
this
isn't
what
we're
in
the
budget,
but
this
is
us
distributing
the
money
to
start
this
process
and,
as
you
see,
we've
done
a
lot
of
different
things
than
we
gave
you
the
things
we've
slotted,
what
we
thought,
there's
a
column
in
here
where
what
we
thought
we'd
have
a
decent
chance
to
get
from
grant
funding
right
about
to
the
end
of
the
light
blues
before
that
was
in
the
list
of
you
know:
40
million
dollars
of
projects,
with
only
you
know,
10
million
whatever
to
do
so,
we
put
a
good
the
portion
that
we
thought
would
have
the
most
advantageous
over
the
next
few
years
of
getting
grant
funding.
C
We
took
that
off
the
equation
and
we
decided
to
put
it
there.
There
may
be
some
more
of
the
projects
that
we
slotted
for
arpa
that
may
be
eligible
for
grant
funding
the
the
problem
with
some
of
these
major
ones
is,
if
you
don't
get
that
funding,
probably
next
year,
you're
going
to
be
running
on
the
time
constraints
to
be
able
to
use
the
offer
money,
and
if
you
wait
too
long,
you
can't
go
back
and
use
it
because
you
won't
meet
the
time
constraints.
C
We
found
some
other
places
go,
for
instance,
on
the,
when
you
look
at
the
cyber
security,
we're
able
to
look
and
in
the
water
ron
and
paul,
and
everybody
found
in
the
water
reserves
and
stuff
an
ability
to
to
budget
a
million
to
take
a
million
off
the
2
million
we
that
and
and
budget
a
million
there,
whereas
only
a
million
of
the
arp
money,
would
have
to
be
used
which
again
freed
up
freed
up
another
bit.
C
In
another
column,
we
found
impact
one
place,
which
was
the
the
potable
water
line
replacements
in
the
third
light
blue
column.
You
see
where
we
we
put
it
from
we
found
there
was
enough
money
in
water
impact.
So
we
tried
to
find
other
funds
that
we
could
find
to
take
some
of
these
numbers
off
of
there
and
and
and
just
sliding
them
into
different
places.
C
Obviously
the
you
know
the
big
ticket
item.
We
already
talked
about
that
the
fire
station's
a
big
ticket
item
and
you
see
how
we
distributed
the
design
part
of
the
build,
and
then
we
went
out
a
couple
years
with
a
penny
and
put
some
money
out.
Plus
we
had
money
from
the
cell
tower
in
the
first
blue
column,
so
we've
taken
tried
to
find
every
other
source
of
money.
We
could
think
of
now
find
some
things
that
could
go
to
grant
and
distributed
distributed
the
money
throughout
these
projects.
C
So
you
could
have
the
maximum
usage
within
the
arpa
using
the
penny.
Your
job
is
knowing
all
the
other
things
on
the
list
that
we
have
the
requests,
the
things
that
we
want,
maybe
some
items
that
we
don't
know
about
again.
C
We
can
take
them,
but
they're
going
to
have
to
go
somewhere
on
this
list
and
something
needs
to
be
moved
out
and
then
we've
got
to
decide
the
one
that's
moved
out
where
we
want
to
slide
it
for
for
funding.
So
again,
this
is
just
a
worksheet
to
use
some
of
you
might
have
a
better
method
of
worksheets
to
utilize.
To
do
it.
C
We're
trying
to,
for
you
know,
vice
mayor
lund
has
one
and
stuff,
but
this
is
just
get
your
general
thing
of
where
we've
tried
to
look
at
every
available
fund
for
these
money.
Try
to
do
the
maximum
amount
of
projects
over
on
the
on
the
left
hand,
side.
Obviously,
one
two
three
four
five:
six
right
now
we've
got
in
grant
grant
fund
pending
or
seven
and
grant
fund
pending.
We
don't
know
if
we're
gonna,
you
know
we
don't
know.
C
If
we'll
get
someone
or
not,
we
think
we
have
a
good
chance
by
seeing
what
grandson
can
be
awarded
and,
as
you
can
see,
lately,
we've
been
real
successful,
in
fact
to
the
point
we're
going
to
have
trouble
managing
the
amount
of
grants
we're
getting-
and
these
includes
you
know,
money
from
the
state.
The
next
year's
appropriations.
A
couple
of
these
things
in
that
other
column
could
come
from
the
state
and
also
it's
been
brought
up
today.
C
For
instance,
commissioner
eisner
brought
up
about
bonds,
you
could
do
there's
other
ways
besides
the
ones
we
have
here,
that
you
could
get
another
pot
of
money
to
do
some
of
these
projects.
So
it's
a
lot
of
decisions.
It's
a
lot
of
important
projects,
they're
all
good
and
we're
trying
to
give
you
every
bit
of
information
we
can
on
them
to
help
you
whatever.
C
We
need
to
help
you
with
to
decide
which
projects
are
these,
which
which
are
fitting
most
to
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we're
doing,
which
ones
which
ones
fit
most
into
there,
which
ones
are
the
ones
that
the
citizens,
when
we've
been
doing
the
citizen
survey,
that
the
citizens
are
looking
for
in
the
future,
to
improve
the
town
again,
you've
got
a
tremendous
job
to
set
these
out
and
set
the
course
you
can
go
and
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
major
things
aside
from
what
we're
doing
in
one
about
moving
apartments
around
a
lot
of
big
good
projects.
C
That's
going
to
be
going
on
for
the
next
five
years
that
that
you
have
the
ability
to
control
the
winds
of.
So
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
discussion,
brainstorming
and
getting
to
consensuses
of
of
of
what
we
do
want
to
do,
what
we
want
to
move
and
then,
where
we're
going
to
move
it.
So
this
this
is
the
good
thing
about
a
workstation
is
an
open
discussion
with
everybody.
So
I've
got
some
of
my
team
out
there
to
you
and
and
how
we
want
to
start
again.
C
This
will
be
a
night.
This
will
be
on
the
next
one.
The
28th
item
two
the
same
thing
to
discuss
more
because
obviously
this
is
way
too
much
for
one
night.
So
I'm
just
hoping
to
get
started
tonight
and-
and
I
know
the
mayor
may
have
some
ideas
about
you-
know
some
ideas
to
to
lead
how
we're
going
to
do
this.
Maybe
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
mayor
and
get
to
get
his
thoughts
well.
A
This
is
probably
the
most
complex
thing
that
that
I've
looked
at
so
far
with
the
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why,
with
the
budget,
I
want
to
get
some
clarification,
though,
for
ron
for
everybody
here
ron.
A
If
you
could
mr
herring,
I
want
to
confirm
that
on
just
these
projects
that
are
the
staff
recommendations
for
the
arbor
projects,
if
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
arpa
funding,
but
it
gets
into
some
of
the
other
funding
if
we've
got
the
current
year
penny,
I
understand
that
the
next
year
penny,
what
we're
saying
is
that
what
you
project
that
would
be
left
over
for
other
projects.
A
That
would
not
that,
for
that,
the
penny
would
not
go
to
these
other.
That
we
have
listed
here
would
be
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
right.
K
A
And
then
for
2024
it
would
be
six
six
hundred
and
seven
thousand
remaining.
K
A
Okay,
so
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
it's
complex
because
it
just
doesn't
affect
this
year-
it
affects
this
commission's
budget
for
next
year
and
the
year
after
right,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
is
kind
of
like
suggesting
to
do
a
lot
of
programming
into
the
out
years,
and
things
like
that
now.
What
you
see
here
is
the
staff's
recommendations
which,
quite
frankly
I
think,
is
important
and
I'm
always
probably
at
first
inclination
to
go
with
that
and
simply
approve
it
and
go
with
that.
A
But
I
also
want
to
in
commissioner
eisner's
point
on
bonds
is
extremely
important,
because
some
of
these
things
that
we've
left
list
here
would
may
be
more
conducive
for
a
bond
issue
than
than
the
arpa
money
and
then
also
mr
herring.
Our
deadline
for
obligating
the
arpa
funds
is
december.
31St
2024.
Is
that
right,
correct
and
then
we
actually
have
to
have
it
all
spent
by
the
20
december
31st
cash.
A
So,
in
addition
to
these,
we
also
have
some
current
projects
that
are
in
the
works.
We've
got
budget
estimates
for
those
that
are
old,
we're
experiencing
some
significant
increases
with
what
was
the
latest
one
that
we
had
that
went
to
3.5.
A
A
So
there's
some
other
things
that
the
designs
are
working
on,
that
we
haven't
even
put
out
the
rfp
yet
and
that
that's
gonna
that
could
very
well
wind
up
with
some
additional
money.
In
addition,
we've
got
what
you
have
in
your
backup
in
your
packets
is
the
citizen
initiatives,
which
is
the
union
academy
museum,
the
greek
town
vision
plan,
which,
quite
frankly,
I
I
think
we're
working.
The
staff
is
working
pretty
well
without
to
the.
A
Then
the
pickleball
courts
is
another
one:
we've
got
the
property
purchases
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
paid
for
somehow
the
hospital
city
manager,
of
course
mentioned
that
the
hot
in
the
hospital
thing.
I
want
to
talk
about
some
of
these
specific,
but
let
me
just
go
through
this
for
sustainability.
You
also
have
a
memorandum
somewhere
in
your
backup
on
the
sustainability
action
committee,
our
sustainability
committee's
recommendations
as
well.
I
think
those
are
important.
A
We
haven't
even
discussed
those,
but
but
those
are
there
in
your
background
and
also
other
things
like
the
whitcomb
bayou
in
all
the
other
areas
that
are
being
flooded,
we're
just
not
going
to.
For
example,
the
the
sponge
docks
pump
station
is
just
for
the
intersection
of
athens
and
dotakanese
3.5
million
dollars.
A
We've
got
the
same
thing
at
roosevelt,
dota
canis.
We've
got
the
same
thing
at
hope.
Street
in
dota
can
ease
and
we
just
can't
afford
10
million
dollars,
for
you
know
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I've
got
an
idea
that
I
asked
a
c
manager
to
discuss
with
somebody
as
far
as
maybe
extending
the
capability
of
that
down
towards
hope
street,
but
that
all
that's
going
to
do
is
add
more
cost
to
the
project,
but
it
would
be
less.
A
So
this
is
this
is
a
real,
real,
complicated
thing
and
then
we
like,
I
said
the
other
projects
that
have
been
approved
and
we're
in
the
pro
orange
street
is
another
one.
For
example,
I
could
imagine
that's
going
to
be
a
fairly
expensive
thing
once
we
get
that
ready
for
to
to
be
bid
lemon
street
shattuck.
All
of
those
are
on
the
same
same
in
the
same
boat.
A
So
I
I
want
us
to
be
careful
with
budgeting,
because
one
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
here
and
then
it
also
affects
the
money
that
will
be
allocated
for
capital
projects
in
the
out
years,
for
us
particularly,
would
be
2023
and
20
fiscal
year,
2024
and
2025..
A
So
let's
just
get
started
with
that.
I
hope
I
scared
you.
You
should
be
scared,
you're,
not
okay,
commissioner
you're,
good,
all
right.
Vice
mayor
lunt
lot,
I
get
worried
about
this
stuff.
This
is
what
I
worry
about.
You
know
so
go
ahead.
F
E
All
right,
so
I
took
a
look
at
it
and
I've
kind
of
been
harping
on
the
arpa
stuff
since
day.
One
and
my
sort
of
intellectualization
of
of
of
the
grant
money
from
arpa
is
that
it
should
be
going
towards
improvement
that
benefit
all
the
people.
It's
really
a
it's
really
was
meant
to
be
a
subsidiation,
for
whatever
economic
impacts
happened
over
the
couple
of
years
that
we
put
up
with
kovid
and
hopefully
it's
over
and
doesn't
reoccur
anyway.
E
E
Basically
that
didn't
have
some
of
this
on
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
the
the
3.9
million
dollars
of
potential
grant
funding
for
cops
and
kids,
because
that's
pretty
high
on
my
list-
and
I
don't
know
anything
about
grant
funding
for
that
particular
project.
I
do
know
I've
toured
the
building.
I've
spent
time
with
the
kids.
I've
spent
time
with
the
people
there
and
it's
falling
apart.
E
E
C
Well
again,
if
you
look
at
the
funding
that
that's
been
going
out
there
from
federal
funding
and
all
the
funding
and
stuff
the
important
and
jeff
jeff's
working
on
on
that
process
and
with
all
the
services
to
the
to
the
community
that
that
that
that
building
would
offer
not
just
the
cops
of
kin
center,
but
the
services
that
are
now
offered
in
clearwater
and
stuff,
I
think
that
would
be
prime
either
for
state
appropriation.
C
Maybe
something
from
the
congressman
and
the
federal
that
just
all
the
things
that's
doing
there
aligns
with
what
with
what
the
the
nature
of
what
we're
seeing
for
grounds.
For
instance,
three
years
ago,
a
lot
of
grants
from
the
state
and
stuff
were
coming
for
fire
stations,
but
if
you
and
we
thought-
oh-
maybe
the
future
fire
station
be
doing.
But
you
look
at
the
last
few,
fire
stations
are
out
and
sustainability,
and-
and
things
like
this
are
in
and
stuff.
C
C
Why
it'd
be
there?
Why
it's
slotted
in
and
it's
all
those
are
based
on
the
potential
of
what
we're
seeing
in
the
last
year
or
so,
and
what
we're
hearing
the
future
grants
going,
that
those
have
a
higher
chance
of
being
us
being
able
to
gain
the
grant
for
them,
and
that's
why
they're
placed
there.
Obviously
any
of
them
can
be
placed
back
over
there
and
stuff,
but
we
tried
to
bring
the
ones
out
of
here.
That
would
be
most
yeah.
E
E
E
C
We're
seeing
coming
up
what
we're
seeing
in
the
grants
that
are
coming
out
and
the
grants
that
they've
been
awarding
there's
a
lot
of
money
for
that
that
that
we're
seeing
out
there
to
get
now.
You
know
where
we
fall
and
get
there's
just
more
capability
of
getting
those
things
and
remember
that's
something!
That's
right!
Now,
slotted,
we've
already
got
that
paula,
tell
you
and
go
a
little
further
into
our
action
plan,
but
it's
slotted
for
2026..
C
So
it's
already
in
our
program
to
do
in
26..
The
efforts
are,
there's
an
opportunity
to
move
it
up
and
looking
for
the
grants
is
not
that
worried.
We
don't
have
it
anywhere
in
the
water
and
sewer
funding.
If
the
funding
stays
the
same,
it's
it's
programmed
already,
but
the
hope
is
the
sooner
you
can
get
sewer.
You
know
for
the
environment,
the
sooner
you
can
do
it
the
better
and
we
think
the
capabilities
of
moving
up.
You
know
there's
a
good
chance
to
get
to
get
the
grants
that
way.
So.
E
A
E
E
Ron
probably
could
back
this
up
for
me,
but
I
know
we
carry
a
very
low
profile
as
far
as
amount
of
debt
per
per
capita
that
we
carry,
and
that's
really
really
nice
to
see,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
realistic
it
is
because
we
have
such
severe
infrastructure
problems
that
are
just
not
gonna
go
away.
They're,
just
gonna
we're
putting
band-aids
here
we're
putting
band-aids
there
and
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
next
20
years
of
fixing
band-aids
and
that's
just
way
too
long.
E
That's
just
that's
not
doing
a
service
to
the
to
the
people
of
tarpon
springs
when
we
could
fix
them
over
the
next
five
years
and
then
pay
for
them
over
the
next
20
and
they'd
they'd
be
actually
doing
some
useful
use
rather
than
trying
to
mandate
anyway.
That's
my
thoughts
on
those
kind
of
things
so
further
on
this.
I
understand
there's
additional
money
for
the
you
know
the
public
safety
roof
chiller
project,
I'm
other
money,
also
that
that
is
being
requested
of
arpa.
E
For
for
excuse
me
over
talking
here
for
the
the
bayshore
septic
to
sewer
that
it's
already
been.
I
don't
know
where
it
is
in
its
planning
or
or
whatever,
about
design
yeah.
It's
already
in
the
design
stage
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
think
that's
fine.
I
think
we
should
put
that
aside,
maybe
as
a
contingency,
because
it's
already
part
of
the
arpa
stuff,
that's
been
funded
and,
and
that
would
be
a
good
continuation.
E
There
might
be
the
way
we've
been
doing
things
these
days.
We
damn
well
need
a
contingency
fund.
Everything
seems
to
be
coming
in
30
more
expensive
than
we
figured
in
a
six-month
period,
and
you
know
we.
We
just
need
to
respect
that
as
far
as
the
non-funded
stuff,
again
back
to
my
principle,
of
of
or
at
least
my
personal
thoughts
on
where
this
arpa
money
really
needed
to
go,
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
the
hospital,
not
so
much
for
the
overhang.
E
I
think
the
roof
needs
to
be
fixed,
so
it's
roughly
around
the
same
same
dollar
amount,
but
I'm
thinking
it's
not
much
good.
If
you
can
get
into
a
hospital
if
your
patient
areas
are
being
damn,
no,
nobody
wants
to
be
lying
in
a
bed
and
and
that
bedpan's
catching
other
things,
and
it
should.
I
guess
I
heard
that
we're
progressing
with
the
greek
historic
societies
plan,
which
is
fine
by
me.
It's
got
my
full
support.
E
Arpa
money
would
be
a
great
use
for
that.
As
far
as
I'm
sure
the
urban
tree
inventory,
I
don't
think
we're
doing
enough
with
it.
I
know
coaster
probably
agrees
with
me.
We
need
to
plant
more
trees
in
this
town
and
well.
I
think
we
also
need
a
good
idea
of
where
those
trees
need
to
be
planted.
We
just.
E
Fine
never
mind,
never
mind.
Next
again,
I've
heard
from
numerous
residents-
and
it's
probably
because
of
my
association
with
my
wife
but
pickleball
courts
were
or
being
in
a
demand
for
a
couple
years
now,
and
it's
not
going
away.
E
I
have
two
things
that
didn't
appear
to
be
in
the
budget,
for
facilities
maintenance
and
for
the
fire
department.
One
was
379
thousand
one
was
704
000.,
it's
my
strong
feeling
that
we
don't
do
enough
proactive
maintenance
on
our
facilities
in
this
town.
E
E
Beckett
bridge
still
needs
to
be
paid
for,
even
though
the
county's
not
planning
on
doing
anything
for
another
year.
We
still
need
to
reroute
all
the
facilities
under
becca
bridge,
not
a
small
undertaking.
I
think
that's
something
that
could
be
funded
as
well.
A
bunch
of
people
use
that
bridge,
so
it
should
be
part
of
that
whole
thing
and
I
think
we're
giving
short
shrift
overall
to
rec
center
stuff.
E
E
You
know
there's
they
they've
they've
asked
for
striping
lighting
and
stuff
like
that
and
also
hurricane
hardening,
which
I
think
is
a
bit
much
for
this
particular
budget.
So
anyway,
then
general,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
thinking
and
obviously
I
have
lists
so
if
you
need
to
see
it
I'll,
be
glad
to
pass
it
on.
A
Well,
I
I
the
answer
is
yes
and
no?
Yes,
we're
talking
about
the
arpa
funding
this
evening,
but
then
there's
a
whole
lot
of
other
things
that
are
attached
to
that
and
my
as
I
said,
the
fir
initial
inclination
would
just
go
ahead
and
take
the
staff's
recommendations
and
go
with
it
sure.
A
But
then
it
affects
the
out
years
and
then
we've
got
a
whole
ton
of
other
things,
and
I
think
for
me,
as
I
said,
the
the
challenge
is
to
integrate
everything
in
the
in
a
way
of
getting
back
to
vice
mayor
lund.
Getting
these
things
done
rather
than
just
talking
about
them,
and
and
so
I
I
think
the
idea
is
to
talk
about
arpa
and
then
bring
in
some
of
these
other
things
that
you
might
feel
would
be
important.
Or
how
do
we
go
about?
It
got.
F
It
yeah
no,
I
mean
it's
an
art
for
sure
balancing
all
this
together
different
different
areas,
different
parts
of
the
city,
different
departments.
So
for
sure
I
I
respect
the
staff's
recommendation,
so
I
would
like
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
from
staff,
so
the
city
received
some
type
of
grant
from
the
state.
It
was
last
year
that
the
state
approved
multiple
phases
of
grants
for
sea
level
rise.
So
one
was
the
study
to
be
done.
F
I
believe
the
city
received
that
grant
and
then
the
second
one
is
actually
getting
the
money
to
fix
all
the
stuff
that
you
come
back
with
the
the
report
on
the
sea
level
rise.
So
I'm
not
aware
of
that
how
we're
going
to
go
target
that
money,
there's
a
huge
bucket
of
money
out
there
that
the
state
put
out
there.
I
don't
remember
how
many
millions,
but
it
was
a
significant
amount
of
millions.
F
F
F
Advent
health
has
invested
a
significant
amount
of
money
into
the
hospital,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
needs
to
be
invested
still
and
if
the
city
shows
them
that
the
city
is
willing
to
put
some
money
into
the
building
that
they
own,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
good
faith
to
have
additional
investments
from
advent
health
coming
from
their
corporate
office
back
into
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
It's
a
great
asset
that
we
have
here
in
tarpon
springs
it's
getting
better
and
better
as
a
building
itself,
so
I
do
think
that's
an
important
one.
F
I'm
encouraged
by
the
bayou
dredging,
that's
on
here
as
well
too
again,
there's
feet
of
silt
or
silt
in
the
bottom
of
the
bayous.
There's
no
way
for
the
sea
grass
to
grow
to
help
out
the
marine
life.
It's
just
a
really
it's
a
it's
polluted
and
then
also
when
you're
looking
at
the
runoffs.
It
would
be
additional
space
for
runoff
to
go
too
if
you're
able
to
dredge
that
if
you're
looking
for
areas,
don't
me
wrong.
I
completely
support
our
library,
but
I
think
the
library
might
be
an
area
that
we
could.
F
F
So
the
the
the
library
is
an
area
I
think
we
could
pull
back
from
and
maybe
try
to
go
for
a
grant
one
more
year
try
to
get
some
other
people
involved
with
that
grant
the
portable
water.
I
think
it's
important
the
way
that
the
arpa
funding
was
written.
It's
really
to
address
moving
water
and
that's,
I
think,
a
no-brainer
to
have
that
million
dollars
there.
It's
going
to
help
the
water
quality
worth
replacing
the
many
many
miles
that
we
have
of
cast
iron
pipes
within
the
city.
F
One
thing
I
want
to
bring
up
is
the
just
a
thought
process
behind
this.
I
know
we
have
a
community
initiative
about
doing.
F
F
There's
plenty
of
space
there
for
a
museum,
but
then,
as
I
thought,
a
bit
further
about
an
opportunity
within
the
union
academy,
if
there's
a
goal
to
build
a
new
cops
and
kids
building,
you've
got
the
youth
in
the
building
at
that
building.
Already
that's
a
great
opportunity
to
have
a
museum
tied
in
with
some
type
of
area
of
the
history
of
the
union
academy
to
really
teach
the
youth
of
where
this
neighborhood
has
come
from,
where
it's
been
and
and
really
get
the
history
back
to
the
youth.
F
F
From
a
fire
station
standpoint,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
move
forward
with
the
fire
station.
It's
a
significant
amount
of
money.
About
a
year
and
a
half
ago
I
had
the
city
clerk's
office,
pulled
together
some
pricing
for
some
of
the
new
fire
departments
that
were
being
built,
that
I
saw
dunedin
siesta,
key
sarasota
they're
in
the
three
plus
million
dollar
range.
F
Now
a
year
and
a
half
later,
the
fire
chief
was
telling
me
that
you're
looking
at
these
fire
stations
doubling
in
pricing
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
right
now
with
this
quote-
that's
come
before
us.
So
to
me,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
have
that
built
out
of
the
flood
zone
hardened
for
a
hurricane,
so
it
could
service
that
side
of
tarpon
springs.
F
A
couple
of
individuals
brought
up
the
idea
about
bonding,
and
that
was
one
of
the
discussions
I
had
with
mark
at
one
point
about
the
solar
panels
on
some
of
the
larger
buildings.
You
could
look
at
it
from
a
green
initiative
or
you
could
look
at
it
from
a
business
initiative
or
look
at
it
together
right.
F
The
solar
panels
eventually
pay
for
themselves
after
a
certain
amount
of
years
and
at
that
point,
you're
not
putting
that
money
back
into
duke
energy
you're,
putting
it
right
back
into
the
general
funds.
So
after
let's
say
seven
years
after
they're
paid
off,
you've
got
another
15
20
years
to
where
you
can
use
that
money
for
staffing
increases
or
things
along
those
lines.
F
C
C
F
C
In
the
design,
they'll
tell
you
how
best
to
do
it,
but
obviously
they'll
have
to
be
some
some
raising
and
securing
that
street
when
it
gets
to
the
design.
They'll
start
doing
and
that's
the
money
we
got.
We
asked
for
four
million
from
congressman
bilarakis.
He
got
his
2
million,
obviously,
and
surprisingly
fast.
He
got
us
that
2
million.
Obviously
now,
instead,
you
know
we
asked
for
4
because
we
thought
we
could
find
a
million
to
do,
but
obviously
we
have
to
find
3
million.
C
C
But
after
that
hurdle
they'll
be
ready
to
work
on
their
process,
which
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
months
or
more,
but
they'll
be
handing
us
that
money
expecting
us
to
go
forward
with
that
project.
So
and
again,
that's
just
that's
just
the
best
estimate
we
got
from
our
people
we
consulted
with.
I
think
he
was
involved.
That's
the
number
we
thought
we'd
have.
F
F
C
F
Yeah
I
mean
you
look
at
pictures
from
like
the
early
1900s,
and
that
was
that
was
there
the
sidewalk
going
around
bayou
was
there.
So
no,
I
think
it's
an
important
thing.
I
do
think
that
there's
opportunity
to
get
state
funding
through
the
the
sea
level
rise
portion
of
the
state
dollars
that
are
out
there.
I
mean
there's
a
significant
amount
of
millions.
F
A
couple.
Other
things
is
the
north
pinellas
corridor
that
has
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
listed
there
mark,
I
think,
under
unfunded
department.
Capital
request
is
that
right.
C
And
where
we've
got
most
of
them,
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you,
we've
we've
found
most
of
the
money
for
our
recommendations,
some
other
places
to
move
that
from
the
unfunded
to
the
funded
list.
That
doesn't
doesn't
involve
what
you
have
here:
okay,
so
that
that's
coming
coming
in
the
budget.
That
was
one
of
the
top
priorities,
because
the
reason
is
is
because
it's
looking
like
we're
finally
going
to
get
a
decision
from
fdot
within
a
month
for
four
to
six
weeks,
we'll
get
that
decision
to
go
forward.
C
If
we
get
that
decision
go
forward,
we
need
to
go
before
they
change
their
mind,
so
that
was
one
of
the
number
one
things
of
the
unfunded
that
we
wanted
to
find
within
some
places.
Within
the
budget
we
have
now
and
we'll
we'll
be
we'll
be
having
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you,
with
with
the
ability
to
fund
it
not
affecting
not
affecting
this
list.
You
have
in
front
of
you.
F
F
Desperately
got
it,
I
I
mean
I'm
full
support
of
that.
That's
just
a
an
eyesore
of
tarpon
springs
for
the
majority
of
our
tourists.
Going
by
that
a
couple
things.
That's
all
multiple
roofs
seem
to
be
replaced
from
different
areas.
F
Small
large,
something
if
you
could
look
into
from
a
staff
standpoint,
is
looking
to
replacing
with
metal
instead
of
like
traditional
shingles
metal,
roofs,
10,
bad
examples,
the
library
but
metal
roofs
tend
to
have
a
significantly
long
life
span
than
a
traditional
shingle
roof,
and
so,
if
cities
could
pay
another
20
30
more
for
metal,
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
move
with
the
metal
route.
Just
from
a
longevity
standpoint
for
the
roofs
yeah.
C
And
again,
that's
one
thing:
we're
going
back
and
evaluating
the
reason
it
was
on
the
cut
list
is
we
thought
it
could
wait
another
year,
but
we're
doing
one
more
reevaluation
to
make
sure
that
we
were
correct
in
that
assumption
and
that
we
don't
need
to
add
that
to
the
list
that
we
find
funding
for.
But
the
reason
it
was
moved
is
the
thought
that
he
was
trying
to
get
it
done
now.
But
but
it
could
wait
another
year
without
any
chance.
C
But
but
again
we're
going
to
reaffirm
that,
because
before
this
budget
ends
and
when
we
dedicate
things,
if
there's
anything
and
of
course,
because
of
vice
mayor
lund
and
some
of
what
the
others
said,
we'll
go
back
and
evaluate
all
those
things
that
we
talked
about
about
building
main
we're
going
to
reabout
I'll
reevaluate,
all
those
things
and,
in
course
of
it
and
maybe
look
for
some
alternatives
within
the
funding
of
the
budget.
As
we
have
it
as
we
have
it
now
got
it.
F
I
did
see
one
of
the
fence,
I
think
the
fencing
around
the
tennis
courts
and
riverside
it's
just
really.
It's
been
in
rough
shape
for
many
many
years
from
a
rusty
standpoint.
I
think
that's
on
one
of
the
lists
of
unfunded,
but
it's
listed
there
and
another
area,
too,
is
just
the
security
cameras
at
certain
parts
of
our
parks.
F
C
C
That
that's
on
hold
because
the
biggest
problem
was
it's
not
going
to
be
able
to
accomplish
what
the
citizen
who
came
to
us
and
went
forward
with
it's
not
able
to
accomplish
that.
Because
of
the
regulatory
issues.
C
C
F
Got
it
and
then
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
from
a
city
standpoint
we're
going
to
be
requesting
fundings
from
the
county
and
the
state.
I
think
we've
done
a
great
job
requesting
money
from
the
state
over
the
past
few
years.
I
think
we
need
to
step
up
and
ask
money
for
the
county
this
year
as
well
too,
for
a
special
project
outside
of
what
the
county
jurisdiction
is,
but
actually
city
project
from
the
county.
F
G
G
Subsequent
to
that
I
had
found
the
number
to
be.
I
believe
it
is
now.
G
So
if
we
accept
all
of
what
the
recommendations
are,
which
I'm
not
looking
to
do,
we
still
would
be
shy,
13
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we
have
to
find
out
and
that's
with
not
including
anything
else
that
has
come
before
us.
That's
not
the
florida
purchases
or
the
stafford,
the
stovers,
no,
no
projects,
so
I
am
in
agreement.
I
don't
know
who
mentioned
it
as
far
as
you
know
at
least
stalling
or
pulling
back
the
library.
That's
a
half
a
million
dollars.
G
G
So
I
had
down
here
again,
I
don't
know
where
I'm
taking
it
from,
but
I
have
here
at
least
587
000
and
we
could
pull
the
500
from
the
library.
I
hope
the
library
doesn't
want
to
take
my
head
off.
But
what
can
I
say?
It's
it's
either
replacing
carpet
and
fixing
things
up
or
having
people
not
being
able
to
live.
So
if
I
have
to
make
that
choice,
that's
the
choice
I'm
going
to
go
with.
G
G
I
do
believe
I
I
wouldn't
go
with
the.
As
commissioner
carr
said,
the
you
know
the
fence,
but
the
riverside
tennis
courts
over
there
was
the
only
thing
that
I
tend
to
look
at.
I
pass
by
it
every
single
day.
They
use
it
extensively,
and
I
also
think
that
they're
in
poor
condition
and
we
do
need
security
cameras
there.
I
know
there's
been
damage
done
to
the
concession
stand
it
it's
it's
a
place
where
the
lights
are
on,
and
it's
bright,
it's
great.
When
it's
not,
we
do
need
to
have
some
security
cameras
there.
G
I
know
that
they've
allotted
200
000,
I
don't
think
that's
the
end
of
the
world.
I
think
that
can
be
done
again
where
we're
going
to
get
it
from
is
pulling
money
out
of
the
recommendation.
You
know
from
the
planning
the
fire
station.
I
have
here
it's
it's
a
lot
of
money
and
I
would
either
do
it
on
a
five-year
payment
plan.
G
So
that's
about,
as
far
as
I
went,
I
believe.
G
If
we
can't
balance
it
as
much
as
I'd
like
not
to
move
the
village
rate
at
all,
I
would
then
need
to
have
somebody
give
me
some
figures
on
how
much
we
could
move
it
to
make
back
how
much
we're
short,
because
they
still
don't
know
what
else
we
need
to
put
money
towards.
You
know
I
still
need
a
hard
copy
of
the
haftas.
G
G
We
need
to
do
this
because
it's
just
not
attractive
or
not
safe
versus
you
know
and
just
go
down
the
line,
because
without
us
all
of
us
going
to
inspect
each
and
every
one
of
these
facilities,
you
don't
know
exactly
to
what
extent
the
condition
of
it
is.
Can
we
wait
a
year
or
is
it
no?
Can
we
wait
two
years
or
is
it
a?
No?
G
G
I
don't
and
I
don't
want
to
bring
up
the
prior
boards
or
the
decisions
that
were
made,
but
there
was
some
really
important
stuff
here
that
had
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
I
just
watched
money
get
squandered
and
I
don't
know
why
that
was
done.
But
it's
done
so
I
mean
these
look
like
all
important
things.
You
know
the
dredging
needs
to
be
done.
The
stormwater
needs
to
be
done.
G
You
know,
I
just
need
to
know
a
priority
list
of
where
we
really
have,
because
we
just
don't
have
all
this
money
and
that's
what
I
do
see
and
I
don't
like
I
said
I
don't
want
to
go
up
in
the
millage
so
or
we
have
to
do
bonds.
You
know
we
could
have
to
do
something,
you
can't
we
don't
have
a
money
machine
and
I'm
not
looking
to
hurt
any
one
person,
but
I've
got
to
be
here
to
make
a
decision
of
the
lesser
of
two
evils.
So
that's
my
take
on
it.
H
H
Just
from
the
the
packet
that
we'd
got,
I'm
all
for
the
greek
town
preservation
place,
making
vision
I'll
support
the
pickleball
courts
this
time
around.
But
I
I
will
put
a
request
in
for
next
year,
the
following
year
for
a
basketball
court
at
riverside
park
riverside
field,
and
I
hope
that
could
be
a
fair
trade-off.
H
H
The
million
dollars
for
the
roof
for
the
the
hospital-
and
I
did
see
on
that
they
placed
the
higher
priority
for
the
awning,
so
I
don't
know
which
one's
more
important
I'd
like
to
try
to
get
one
of
the
two
this
year,
but
I
would
think
the
roof
overall
from
the
top
would
be
more
important,
but
so
just
something
to
consider,
but
the
fire
station
fire
station
70
absolutely
designed
we
got
to
start.
You
know
that's
a
good
infrastructure
for
the
west
side
of
town
for
service
and
everything.
H
A
lot
of
these
are
just
staff
recommendations,
and
you
know
if
we
can
just
get
ron
and
all
of
us
work
together,
we
decide
we're
gonna,
do
bonds
or
how
we're
gonna
split
it
up
it's
fairly
open
to
it
all.
So,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
okay.
Well
I
I
want
to
take
the
big
picture
approach
because
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the.
I
know
that
the
staff
is
looking
for
guidance
on
on
funding
for
this
year.
We
need
to
get
that
done,
but
I
also
think
we
need
to
create
some
kind
of
a
policy
or
philosophy
of
what
we're
going
to
do
before
we
make
those
decisions.
A
In
addition
to
the
supplemental
funding
funding,
that's
needed
for
the
the
sponge,
docs
flooding
plus
three
more
of
those
packages,
and
that
comes
out
to
about
25
million
dollars
that
you
can
do
is
I've.
That
would
be
a
minimum
as
far
as
an
infrastructure
bond
issue,
so
that
would
this
is
kind
of
a
policy,
a
policy
big
picture
approach
before
we
start
spending
money,
so
you
know
either
we're
going
to
address
flooding
or
we're
just
going
to
continue
talking
about
it.
A
The
the
whitcomb
bayou
thing
has
just
gone
on
and
on
and
on
and
on,
and
it
started
with
riprap
and
now
we're
all
and
we're
working
toward
towards.
I
think
in
a
very
methodical
way:
it's
not
quick
but
we're
working
towards
that,
but
nevertheless
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
know
how
to
fix
them.
We
need
the
money
and
I
think
that
we're
talking
about
trade-offs
here
and
there
they
all
need
to
be
fixed
and
they
should
have
been
fixed
many
years
ago.
A
A
You
have
to
get
an
idea
of
how
much
you
could
what
your
credit
would
be
for
the
whole
thing,
the
interest
rates
and
everything
so
so
you've
got
that
the
hospital,
the
difference
in
and
there's
nuances
to
everything,
that's
being
produced
that
that
is
being
proposed
here.
That
you
need
to
think
your
way
through
this,
the
hospital,
I'm
pretty
sure
the
awning
is
fiost.
If
they
actually
identify
that
memorandum
as
a
priority,
the
reason
why
it's
priority
is
because
they
they
can't
do
the
wrap
to
hurricane
harden
that
building
until
they
do
the
awning.
A
I
think
the
the
roof
is
going
to
get
done,
but
when
I
spoke
to
jason,
dunkle
and
he's
leaving,
but
the
point
was
we
need
to
get
the
awning
done
to
get
the
wrap
okay.
So
the
wrap
is
25
million
dollars,
but
I
suspect
it
might
be
a
little
easier
for
them
to
to
justify
that
hardening
their
facility,
so
they
don't
have
to
evacuate.
I
don't
know
how
many
beds-
and
that
was
a
nightmare,
to
evacuate
all
those
beds
to
some
other.
A
A
We
wound
up
getting
that
grant
today
for
creating
actually
it's
for
inventorying,
the
neighborhood
buildings
and
it's
the
first
step
in
moving
towards
creating
a
character
or
preservation
district
for
union
academy
and
the
museum,
as
we
would
call
it
on
oakwood
street,
is
very
much
a
part
of
that
sort
of
effort
community
pride,
and
so
why
is
that
so
important?
Well,
if
you
talk
to
many
of
the
realtors,
the
inventory
is
basically
gone
from
within
town.
A
So
now
we've
got
these
people
institutional
buyers,
deep
pocket
buyers
coming
in
and
picking
houses
off
of
the
the
fringe
of
the
union
academy,
neighborhood
and
gentrifying
it
and
gentrifying.
Okay
is
great
for
people
who
are
down
in
you
know
like
tampa
and
some
of
these
other
places,
but
for
tarpon
it
just
basically
prices
people
out
of
their
homes,
and
we
got
problems
enough.
So
that's
the
whole.
From
my
perspective,
that's
the
priority
of
of
that.
A
What
we're
working
on
with
union
academy,
it's
to
kind
of
preserve
the
culture,
the
character
of
that
neighborhood,
and
that's
where
mrs
dabs
is
coming
from
as
far
as
this
oakwood
building
is.
Actually
she
stated
it
was
a
community
center
and
she's
got
some
ideas
on
it.
So
I
don't
want
to
rule
that
out
right
now,
I'm
not
ready
to
make
a
decision
on
it,
of
course
tonight,
but
I'm
not
ready
to
rule
that
out
the
greek
town
vision.
A
I've
had
several
conversations
with
ms
vincent
ms
vincent's
had
several
conversations
with
trina
bucca,
bucavales
and
bibalikis
from
the
greektown
tarpon
springs,
greektown
heritage
association
and
where
I
think
the
city
is
moving
towards
right
now,
is
to
create
a
preservation
district
for
that
and
there's
a
variety
of
ways
to
do
it.
Ms
vinson
is
moving
in
that
regard.
She's
got
to
do
some
thinking
about
it
either
you
extend
the
sponge
doc
special
area
plan.
A
You
create
a
new
area
plan,
but
it's
more
of
a
preservation,
not
like
you
have
a
historic
district
where
they
have
to
go
before
board
to
get
certain
things,
but
there
are
guidelines
that
have
to
be
created
in
the
whole
thing
so
that
60
thousand
dollars-
I
don't
know,
is
that
important
right
now
in
the
sense,
but
it
has
to
be
part
of
our
general
fund
funding
for
the
planning
department.
So
that's
real
important,
but
that's
the
big
picture,
part
of
that
the
pickleball
courts.
A
A
The
city
manager
and
I
have
had
it's
targeted
for
that
area
across
the
street
from
the
from
the
dog
park,
and
there
was
an
attempt
to
do
that
last
time
and
we
kind
of
got
wrapped
up
into
taking
out
green
space
and
and
re
having
to
do
a
new
land
use
for
that
particular
parcel
and
because
recreation
did
not
fit
in
the
land
use
category
that
it
called
for.
A
So
I
don't
know-
and
I
don't
obviously
at
this
point-
we
we've
got
there,
what
we've
got
but
expanding
recreation
there,
I'm
not
so
sure
from
a
planning
perspective.
At
least
the
way
I
see
it
is
is
a
is
a
good
thing.
If
we're
considering
that
truly
to
be
a
gateway,
I
mean,
for
example,
you
could
use
the
analogy:
you've
got
the
the
vacant
property
next
to
the
scooters
building
and
the
theophilopolis
law
office.
Why
don't
we
put
pickleball
courts
in
there?
Well,
you're,
just
not
going
to
do
that.
A
That's
a
gateway
into
the
city,
same
thing
down
at
the
corner
of
mirrors
and
in
alternate
19..
Why
not
put
pickleball
courts
in
that
vacant
spot?
It's
just
a
gateway.
You
don't
do
that.
So
why
would
we
do
that
in
this
community
gateway?
That's
the
entryway
to
the
into
the
sponge
docs.
So
I
think
from
my
perspective,
I
don't
have
an
issue.
An
alternative
would
be
in
the
city
manager.
I
I
basically
asked
him
about
it.
A
I
don't
know
how
he
feels
about
it,
but
if
we're
going
to
have
a
cops
and
kids
center-
and
I
know
that
there's
this
complex
down
there-
that
we
could
create-
I
don't
know
how
much
land
is
available,
but
I
don't
understand
why
we
wouldn't
start
focusing
in
on
our
recreation
assets
in
in
that
area.
If
we've
got
the
room,
pickleball
bocce.
A
Courts
down
where
the
cops
and
kids
would
go,
and
I
don't
again,
I
don't
know
how,
whether
there's
enough
room
or
not
it's.
I
think
it's
some
school
board
property
that
we
would.
E
A
A
Area
is,
I
think,
it's
city
property.
I
might
be
wrong,
but
what
I'm
getting
at
is.
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
that.
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
really
we
could
fund
them,
it's
just
where
do
we
put
them,
and-
and
so
that's
how
I
feel
about
that-
we
haven't
talked
about
the
property
purchases.
We've
got
several
property
purchases
they're
not
here
on
the
radar
screen.
A
A
A
I
mean
the
whole
sea
wall
and
everything
was
dilapidated
and
it
was
fixed
in
the
60s.
So
it's
60
years
old
right
now
and
there's
been
this
infiltration
of
salt
water
into
the
concrete
and
all
the
reinforcing
steel
is
gone.
That's
why
you
have
these
these
failures
that
are
going
on,
but
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
just
do
from.
I
guess
it's
all
the
way
around
by
the
we've
done
a
part
around
by
the
tourist
club,
the
sea
wall.
A
Then,
from
the
dock,
all
the
way
down
to
where
reed
street
is
is
basically
easement,
that
the
city
has
from
the
property
owners
that
live
across
the
street.
I'd
like
to
do
I'd
like
to
whatever
we
do
to
to
do
the
funding
for
all
of
it.
So
once
we
start,
we
do
the
whole
thing.
I
just
can't
envision
having
part
of
the
sidewalk,
maybe
your
foot
or
two
higher
and
then
the
other
one's
still
low.
I
just
don't
I
don't.
Why
would
we
do
that?
A
I
think
we
needed
to
do
the
either
none
of
it
or
do
the
whole
thing,
and
we've
got
the
two
million
dollars
from
the
congress,
but
we're
going
to
obviously
need
a
lot
more.
A
So
so
that's
why
I'm
saying
for
me:
it's
a
complicated
thing,
it's
more
than
just
you
know,
giving
these
projects
a
go,
because
some
of
them
are
a
little
more
complicated
than
just
funding
them
and
having
them
built.
I
really
think
that
there's
some
policy
or
some
philosophical
aspects
to
some
of
these,
that
we
need
to
think
our
way
through
before
they're
funded
now.
Have
I
helped
us
make
any
progress
towards
this
tonight?
No,
but
still,
I
think
you
see
the
challenge
that
we're
facing.
A
If
you
agree
with
me,
fine,
if
you
don't,
then
we
can
just
move
ahead.
The
way
things
have
happened
in
the
past,
maybe,
but
I
just
don't
like
the
fact
that
we
talk
about
things
every
year
that
are
important
like
flooding
and
stuff.
Like
that,
really
we
don't.
We
don't
make
any
progress
in
that
the
bond
was
something
that
has
been
on
my
mind
a
while
it
would
have
to
be,
in
my
opinion,
out
of
the
storm
water
or
combination,
storm,
water,
sew
and
water
bonds.
A
Out
of
the
general
fund,
you,
basically
you,
basically
what
you
use
collat.
You
use
your
taxing
revenue
as
collateral,
that's
generally
a
no-no,
so
you
would
want
to
do
your
infrastructure
projects
from
from
sewer
water
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
leave
your
general
fund
alone.
At
least
that's
that's
the
way
it's
been
done
in
the
past.
A
So
if
the
commission
has
some
kind
of
thoughts
along
that
line,
I
would
like
for
you
all
to
share
that
with
the
city
manager
and-
and
at
least
that's
my
spiel
for
tonight,
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
anything
that
was
presented
as
far
as
needing
to
be
done.
I
really
don't
it's
just
how
we
go
about
funding
it
and
and
where
some
of
these
things
go
is
what
we
do.
I
mean
I
I
just
we
need
to
have
a
vision.
A
G
Mayor,
I
did
want
to
explain
to
you.
I
didn't
know
that
the
craig
park
was
only
up
until
that
point
yeah.
So
if
they're
coming
in
at
5.2
million
dollars
up
to
that
point,
it's
easily
estimated
that
that
would
be
10
million
dollars
beside
the
fact.
You
then
would
have
issues
with
all
of
the
docks
that
were
built
as
well.
G
You
know
only,
I
think,
only
one
dock
just
recently
caved
in
at
the
same
time
private
docks,
private
dock
right.
I
know
one
person
built
a
dock
and
they
built
it
up,
maybe
a
foot
higher,
but
if
we
are
looking
to
build
it
up
two
feet
higher
I
mean
who
gets
who's
responsible
for
the
docks
being
changed.
G
We
start
getting
into
some
sticky
areas
and
that's
all
I
I'm
sure
you
realize
all
this.
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
because.
A
There's
a
lot
of
nuances,
we
can
make
a
decision
tonight
and
the
city
manager
can
come
back
two
weeks
three
weeks
a
month
from
now
and
say:
well,
we
got
a
problem,
I
mean
I
you
know,
and
I
don't
want
that
to
happen.
I
think
we
need
to
think
things
through.
I'm
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't
approve
projects
tonight.
I'm
not.
We
wouldn't
shouldn't,
have
obviously
proved
projects
in
this
budget,
but
we
need
the
ones
that
we
do
approve.
A
F
A
F
Want
to
reiterate,
so
you
bring
up
a
good
point
about
the
bonding
situation.
Again,
however,
that
can
be
tied
into
the
state
funding
like
there's
significant
funds
that
the
governor
put
out
there
with
the
state
speaker
and
when
they,
I
think,
even
signed
the
the
bills
and
at
rusty
bellies
when
they
did
it
right.
So
there's
some
type
of
correlation
in
time.
I
think
what
we
could
do
into
that,
so,
hopefully
we
could
tap
into.
A
That's
I
mean
you're
right
and
that's
the
that's
the
complication
of
it.
I
mean
it
really.
Is
I
mean
the
first
thing
that
you
do.
Is
you
do
a
financial
study
to
see
what
our
credit
rating
would
be
or
what
we're
capable
of
by
borrowing?
Then
you
hire
a
bond
attorney
then
he
does
through
the
necessary
paperwork.
Then
you
find
somebody
that
you
actually
established
a
bond
with
and
then
those
actually
have
to
be
sold
as
investments
to
people.
A
So
there
it's
I've
gone
through
this
before
we
did
that
with
the
it
never
came
to
fruition.
But
there
was
a
middle
school.
Remember
the
medical
school.
It
was
an
osteopathic
college
that
they
were
going
to
build
associated
with
our
our
hospital
and
they
went
through
the
whole
deal.
We
were
going
to
issue
the
bonds
for
that
hospital
for
that
medical
school
and
it
never
it
for
whatever
reason
it
didn't
happen,
but
we
actually
went
through
the
drill
of
issuing
the
the
bonds
for
that
paul.
A
I
know
you're
there
and
probably
falling
asleep.
Don't
we
have
a
bond
for
the
ro
plant
and,
and
we
have
a
bond,
we
still
have
an
outstanding
bond
for
the
septic.
I'm
sorry
for
the
treatment
plan
as
well.
Is
that
correct.
D
No
not
for
the
wastewater
plant,
but
I
did
want
to
say
mayor.
Thank
you
paul
smith.
Here
I
did
want
you
to
consider
that
these
bonds,
the
debt
service
I
mean
they're,
just
basically
giant
loans
and
the
debt
service
is
significant.
I
mean,
if
I
recall,
ron
we're
paying
about
two
million
dollars
a
year
for
that
ro
plant
bond
series
and
that's
with
a
huge
grant
that
we
won
from
the
swift
mud
to
pay
for
almost
half
the
project.
D
So
I
just
want
you
to
understand
that
if
you
do
vote
to
do
big
projects
with
bonds,
that'll
be
a
drain
on
your
operating
costs
through
a
20
30
year
period.
So
it's
a
big
commitment,
there's
some
upsides
to
them
as
well
and
something
they
call
intergenerational
equity,
where
you're
having
generations
pay
for
improvements,
not
just
putting
it
all
on
the
people
right
now
to
pay
for
a
big
project
that
has
a
long
life.
So
just
some
things
to
think
about.
A
Yeah-
and
on
that
point
you
that's
the
one
thing:
I've
always
had
a
pet
peeve
with
condominiums
that
continue
kicking
down
improvements
down.
You
know
they
when
they
need
to
be
done,
they
keep,
you
know,
kicking
them
down
the
road
and
what
happens
the
people
that
were
that
actually
created
the
problem
were
gone
and
the
people
that
own
them
at
that
particular
time
have
to
pay
for
all
of
them.
So
it's
it's.
It's
not
a
good
situation
when
you've
got
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
because
they
haven't
been
addressed.
A
You
know,
as
we've
gone
along
and
now
we
reach
the
point.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
live
with
some
of
these
things
continue
living
with
some
of
these
things,
but
you
know,
there's
got
to
be
something.
That's
got
to
be
done
so
that
the
residents
understand
that
that
they
they
just
have
to
be
they
that
we're
going
to
be
addressing
them,
and
it's
not
going
to
happen
and
who,
who
asked
me
about
the
three
years.
Was
it
you,
commissioner,
could
yes
about
whether
everything
is
going
to
be
done
by
2026.?
B
A
Yeah,
it's
not
going
to
be
done
in
my
three
years.
I
can
tell
you
that
all
these
things,
but
somehow
there
needs
to
be
some
some
plan
in
place
that
we
could
see
this.
We
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
right
now.
That's
why
I'm
saying
this
thing
to
me
is
a
little
scary,
because
I
don't
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
it's
overwhelming
with
the
amount
of
stuff
that
we
have
to
do,
and
so
anyway,
I
don't
know
what
I
don't
want
to
belabor.
A
This
point
we're
not
going
to
solve
any
problems
tonight,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
my
and
that's
an
excellent
point
paul
because
I
I
don't
know
what
our
our
credit
rating
is.
I
don't
know
what
our
the
deal
is,
but
that's
something
that
we
would
have
to
look
into.
A
E
Do
know
our
credit
rating
for
me
I
said
I
do
know
our
credit
rating
right
currently
singing
a
double
a
from
a
bond
position.
I
think,
as
a
as
a
commission,
we're
allowed
to
go
up
to
the
10
million
dollar
mark
without
having
to
go
for
a
referendum.
E
E
Everybody
always
talks
about
how
really
cool
dunedin
is
and
how
they
got
all
this
stuff
done,
etc,
etc,
etc.
They're
they
did
the
bond
thing,
that's
how
they
got
there.
They
carry
a
much
much
higher
per
capita
expense
for
bonds
and
stuff.
Like
that,
however,
they
seem
which
is
one
of
the
deciding
factors
when
they
decided
to
stay
with
pinellas,
county
police
and
stuff,
like
that
was
to
carry
their
bond
issues,
so
we
need
to.
We
need
to
really
think
about
it.
It's
we
pay.
E
What
was
it
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
million
dollars
a
year
right
now
for
the
for
the
ro
facility,
bonds
and
so
forth?
This
bond
looks
to
be
just
about
similarly
sized
or
maybe
bigger.
So
that's
another
thing
out
of
our
operating
budget.
That's
this!
That's
going
to
be
heavy
consideration
for
an
aspect
of
looking
at
all
these
projects
and
saying
what
has
to
be
done
now.
What
can
we
live
with,
etc?
E
A
I've
also
got
some
concerns
about
how
much
work
the
state
staff
is
facing
right
now,
too,
there's
a
they're,
not
it's
not
like
they're
just
sitting
there
wondering
about
what
they
do
next
they're,
all
pretty,
especially
the
planning
staff
is
extremely
busy
with
stuff,
and
that
would
be
up
to
the
city
manager.
As
far
as
how
to
deal
with
that.
A
I've
always
told
ms
vincent
not
to
be
shy
about
asking
for
help.
You
know
a
level
of
service
contract
or
something
like
that.
Maybe
there
is
something
that
she
could
use
in
that
regard.
I
don't
think
it
would
just
be
mrs
vincent,
I
think
mr
smith
and
his
crew
would
have
to
get
involved
as
far
as
the
infrastructure
yeah
I
I
know
that
probably
shocked
the
city
manager
a
little
bit
the,
but
that's
that's
really
how
I
feel
this
is
a
very
for
example.
A
You
know
my
conscience
would
bother
me
to
tell
the
residents
were
spending
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
at
the
corner
of
athens
and
dota
kinese.
While
we
still
continue
with
flooding
at
hope
and
roosevelt
and
elsewhere
down
there,
I
mean
it's
like
you've
still
got
to
go
from
one
end
to
dotakanese
to
the
other.
Okay,
you
get
past
stathon
street,
but
now
you
hit
hope
street
and
roosevelt.
A
That's
a
good
discussion
and
you
know
I
I
want
to
apologize.
We
didn't
have
any
more
specific
questions
for
you,
but
they're,
more
philosophical
and
political.
C
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
what
you
all
are
doing
are
great,
it's
just
worse.
For
me,
I'm
struggling
with
a
little
more
of
a
you
know
higher
level.
How
do
we
do
it
and
not
leave
any
part
of
the
community
out
and
not
tell
people?
Well,
we
can't
you
know
this
has
been
this
way
for,
let's
say
10
15
20
years,
and
why
we
can't
take
care
of
it
in
the
next
five
ten
twenty
years.
I
don't
know.
G
A
K
You
know
you're
talking,
I
just
wanted
to
interject
a
little
bit
you're
talking
about
the
bonding
and
financing.
I
know
one
thing
you
might
want
to
think
about
is
it's
a
revenue
note
and
it
would
be
the
penny
fund
as
a
backing
and
as
the
vice
mayor
lund
says
you
keep
it
under
the
10
million
there.
You
don't
have
to
go
for
referendum,
but
a
popular
thing
is
a
revenue
note,
often
with
the
penny
fund,
as
a
backing.
A
And
stuff
there's
I
mean
you're
right
and
that's
what
I
don't
know
enough
about
it
yet
or
thought
through
it
enough,
but
it's
kind
of
overwhelming
and
we
need
to
kind
of
look
at
it.
We've
got
all
these
things
are
all
important
it
it's
you
know,
you've
got
the
staff
recommendations,
but
then
you've
got
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
people
want
to
get
done.
So
how
do
we
deal
with
it
and
and
you've
got
the
knowledge?
The
staff
has
got
the
knowledge
and
there's
some
outside
people
that
have
got
the
knowledge
of
of.
A
K
A
C
Okay,
the
last
item-
and
it
was
depending
a
lot
on
there-
was
depending
how
we
did
time-wise
and
stuff.
So
I
think
in
three-ron.
C
I
think
all
we
want
to
cover
with
with
three
was
some
different
areas
of
the
budget
being
the
time
and
we've
had
a
good
discussion,
and
I
think
the
only
thing
we'll
talk
about
in
miscellaneous
is
an
item.
That's
not
one
of
the
department's
heads
coming
up.
It's
the
non-departmental
general
and
I
think
it's
the
page
on
here
that
got
144
in
in
your
budget.
If
you
took
the
big,
the
big
budget
book,
if
you
look
at
page
144,
that's
an
item
that
everything
that's
not
assigned
to
the
department.
C
C
If
you
go
we'll
just
start
on
page
145,
at
the
beginning,
in
line
31
professional
services,
you'll
see
a
new
item.
There
that's
estimated
at
45
000,
that's
the
budget
for
next
year,
the
possible
the
transition,
the
city
manager
transition
and
the
need.
If
you
do
that,
you'll
need
to
hire
firms
and
stuff
to
to
look
and
get
the
you
know
the
quality,
the
other
cities
that
are
doing
is
going
to
pay.
C
So
I
want
to
make
sure
in
this
budget,
whenever
we
talk
at
a
later
time
about
when
that
time
would
come,
that
that
money
would
be
in
there
and
that's
that's
the
professional
services
item
and
the
estimates
in
there
and
there's
some
cities
going
through
that,
so
we'll
kind
of
look
at
the
cost
of
theirs
and
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
adjust
down
much
from
from
some
of
them
look
at
some
of
what
their
searches
did
and
what
they
cost.
But
I
just
put
a
placeholder
in
there
for
that.
C
So
that's
that's
something
to
note
on
there.
The
other
big
thing
on
the
next
page,
the
two
big
things
to
note
at
in
49.
C
The
question
is
asked:
what
happens
if
something
happens
that
you
don't
have
in
the
budget?
One
of
the
big
air
conditioner
units
breaks
down.
One
of
the
other
things
happened:
that's
the
line
where
you
see
maintenance
reserve
other
that's
and
we've
upped
that
150
180
last
year.
Last.
C
That
is
the
money
we
have
for
those
unforeseen
things
that
that
that
break
and
that
are
cost
and
that
we
need
to
do
so.
So
it's
not
a
slush
when
somebody
sees
that
whoa,
that's
money
sacked
away
there
every
year,
and
I
think
I
don't
think
we've
had
many
years
when
we
haven't
when
we've
given
some
of
that
money
back.
When
we
transition
over
to
budget
there's
not
many
times,
we
usually
have
to
search
the
budget
for
more
money,
but.
C
We
account
for
things
we,
you
can't
account
for
you,
don't
anticipate
happening,
something
of
major
cost,
just
breaks
and
that's
where
that
happens
and
the
last
item,
which
is
kind
of
the
way
we
we.
If
we
had
known
about
the
budget
advisory
resume,
we
probably
wouldn't
have
caused
it
called
it
reserve
funding.
It's
called
reserve
funding
here,
but
it's
not
in
that
last
column
in
the
last
column,
where
it
has
the
sixth
that
is
the
that
is
the
money.
It
is
not
the
going
reserved
or
it's
not
reserved,
that's
the
money.
C
When
I
gave
you
those
worksheets
last
week
where
I
had
the
money
you
had
left
in
general
fund
the
money
where,
if
you
do
the
positions
that
I
told
you
that's
where
that
money
in
essence,
that's
the
we
had
a
balanced
budget
that
we
brought
to
the
budget
advisory
committee.
It
was,
it
was
balanced.
C
This
is
the
extra
money
minus
some,
because
we
use
some
of
the
money
to
go
from
the
three
percent
to
five
percent,
but
this
is
what's
left
from
the
property
tax
increase,
and
this
is
the
money
you
have
available
for
positions.
This
is
the
money
available
from
any
other
general
fund
budget.
Some
of
the
items-
maybe
we
talked
about-
may
be
funded
from
here.
C
This
is
the
item
where,
where
your
budget
advisory
committee
and
one
of
the
recommendations
said
they'd
like
to
see
some
of
that
actually
go
to
the
reserves,
I
don't
think
they
saw
it
as
that.
But
again
it's
money
for
you
to
allocate
and-
and
I
think
in
my
mind
in
in
later
either
the
next
meeting
or
as
we
get
to
the
personnel.
C
The
one
thing
you
have
to
decide
is
you
know
what
positions
you're
going
to
look
for,
because
then,
when
you
subtract
that
out,
you'll
have
another
set
of
money
and
that's
the
money
that
you
have
discretionary
to
do
with
what
you
want,
whether
it's
again
with
one
of
the
items
there
there's
usually
not
that
much
money
in
the
general
fund
for
the
city
committee
to
city
commission
to
decide
what
to
do
with
it's,
usually
under
200,
000
or
sometimes
less
so,
but
again
we
we
have
no
positions
funded
in
the
budget.
C
I
gave
you
a
list,
not
necessarily
the
ones
that
I
recommend,
but
those
are
the
ones
from
the
list
that
we
did
last
year
that
I
think
are
most
important
or
less
likely.
For
instance,
I
said
why
I
picked
the
police
instead
of
a
fire.
I
think
we're
almost
assured
to
get
the
at
least
those
three
positions,
but
I
say
they
gave
us
the
truck
because
they
know
they're
out
the
fund,
so
the
county
money
for
three
positions
for
them
is
signed
so
the
priority
in
that
area.
C
E
C
I'll
say
yeah
we'll
send
we'll
send
it
to
everybody
again,
there's
a
bunch
of
other
things
in
I
mean
this
this.
This
is
the
hodgepodge
of
things
that
aren't
in
every
any
particular
budget.
This
is
one
of
the
things
I
was
talking
about,
especially
with
three
new
commissioners
on
here
that
there's
a
lot
of
department,
but
there's
this
one
here
at
the
end,
and
again
I
wanted
to
emphasize
some
of
the
new.
C
You
know
again
the
funding,
the
funding
for
a
possible
future
city
manager,
search
where
we
put
the
reserve
money
for
things
that
happen
that
happen,
and
we
don't
expect
them
and
we
don't
have
them
budgeted
and
that
to
explain
this
bottom
column,
which
is
usually
not
there
that
that,
but
that
reserve
fund
is
not
there
and
it
probably
should
become
access
fund.
I
don't
know
what
the
other
title
besides
reserve,
but
the
reserve.
You
know
some
of
you
asked
questions
likely.
C
E
C
Allocator
is
probably
the
best
word
to
put
it
in
and
again
with
all
the
other
decisions
that
have,
but
again
there's
there,
as
you
see
through
there's
the
there's,
a
variety
of
things,
this
funds
that
doesn't
quite
fit
a
particular
area,
so
we
didn't
put
there
on
there
for
you
to
look
at
so
again.
A
F
E
K
C
C
We
still
run
it
down
and
we
still
have
people
and
we're
encouraging
people
to
fix
up
their
where
encourages
people
to
and
if
they
ever
reach.
The
point,
like
I
told
them,
the
problem
is
down
at
the
docks
a
lot
of
times
in
the
past,
we've
offered
grants,
but
they
won't
take
advantage
of
them.
We,
we
beg
them
to,
and
we've
told
them
we're
out
we're
allocating
this
and
keep
moving
it.
C
If
you
go
over
and
there's
more
need
that
we'll
come
back
to
the
commission
and
ask
for
another
20,
we'll
ask
for
an
extension,
but
we're
not
going
to
ask
until
you
use
the
first
25
and
stuff.
So
so
the
reason
that's
in
there
again
we
can
fund
the
cra,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
money
in
the
cra
to
be
able
to
fund
programs
like
that,
but
the
docs
is
excluded
from
that
money.
So
because
it's
not
there,
so
they
created
that
for
that
grant
all.
C
No
just
one
okay,
but
this
is
because
they
aren't
one
they're
able
to
do
the
same
their
businesses.
They
will
take
the
same
advantages
of
downtown
and
we've
got
interest.
There
is
some
interest
in
there.
It
is
starting
to
be
used
now
and
anything
to
improve
the
looks
is
is
a
win-win
for
the
city
and
for
the
for
the
docs
owners.
E
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
company
that
they
professed
to
use
during
this
whole
thing
they
did
basically
an
island
in
my
hometown
and
basically
turned
it
from
somewhere.
Where.
E
You
sort
of
had
to
go
out
of
your
way
to
want
to
go
there
to
some
place.
That's
one
of
the
most
popular
places
on
the
pacific
west
coast.
They
do
a
tremendous
job
and
I
actually
hadn't
at
the
time
that
I
knew
the
proposal
was
going
through
and
stuff,
but
I
have
discussed
with
with
some
of
the
the
people
that
were
there
in
the
city,
council
and
so
forth.
A
The
project
for
public
spaces-
yes,
my
pitch-
was
actually
here
in
the
late
90s
and
told
us
what
to
do
with
our
downtown.
A
So
there
they
are,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
the
the
we
didn't
have.
The
report
and
the
clerk's
office
are
in
the
records
or
anywhere,
and
I
called
the
project
for
guess
what
they
dug
it
up.
They
still
had
it
and
the
two
people
that
actually
came
here
are
there
emeratus
too
they're
still
there,
but
they
just
consult
when
they
have
to.
C
Right,
yeah
and
remember:
we
had
a
third
one
set,
but
it
falls.
It
falls
right
with
your
league
of
cities
thing
so
we'll
have
to
look
for
another
date.
That's
why
we
took
the
11.
It
ended
up
falling
on
the
league
of
cities
day
so
we'll
have
to
just
if
we
have
a
third
one,
we're
we're
looking
for
another
date
to
give
you
in
august
to
replace
the
the
the
one
where
two
of
our
commissioners
are
gone
representing
the
city
and
hollywood.
A
All
right,
let
let
me
say
a
couple
of
things-
one
and
the
the
the
the
the
one
that
was
six
hundred,
something
thousand,
that
that
was
a
good
one
and
and
something
that
the
city
manager
and
I
discussed
about
where
the
money
was
coming
from,
and
he
and
mr
herring
explain
that.
The
other
thing
was
the
the
the
45
000
for
recruitment
of
senior
staff
positions.
A
That's
basically
for
a
head
hunter,
and
that
was
some
in
the
city
management
and
I've
had
some
ongoing
conversations
about
this.
As
far
as
how
to
approach
this
sort
of
thing
and-
and
there
was
some
initial
time
frame
of
the
spring
of
next
year-
is
what
the
city
manager
was
thinking
about.
A
But
from
my
perspective,
I
I've
shared
this
with
them
and
I
think
it's
too
early
for
that,
just
because
the
union
contracts
and
some
challenges
as
you're
saying
now
that
we've
got
to
go
through
so
at
some
point
each
of
the
each
of
you
need
to
talk
to
the
city
manager
about
this.
As
far
as
your
your
timing,
I
know
that
during
the
campaign
everybody
here
made
certain
as
a
matter
of
fact.
Seven
out
of
the
eight
candidates,
I
think
there
were
eight
candidates,
made
certain
representations
to
this
fact.
A
So
I
think
you
have
to
have
some
conversations
with
the
city
manager
on
this.
Also,
I
I
there's
just
because
you
put
out
a
search
doesn't
mean
that
you're
going
to
have
viable
candidates,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear
that
I'm
not
ready
to
start
talking
about
transitions,
and
is
you
know
unless
there's
some
a
better
situation
than
you're
going
to
wind
up
with
so
bel
air
just
went
through
that
and
it
didn't
work
out
real
well
for
them.
A
They
hired
an
interim
for
ten
thousand
dollars
a
month
until
they
figure
out
what
they're
going
to
do
next,
they
just
didn't
have
in
their
eyes
good
candidates
or
somebody
that
was
satisfactory
for
them,
and
so
I
don't
know
what
what's
going
to
happen
for
us,
but
just
keep
that
in
mind.
I
also
think
it's
very
important
city
manager
has
been
here
for
40
next
year
will
be
45
years
right,
he's
been
a
city
employee
for
45
years,
he's
extremely
important
to
the
city
and
believe
it
or
not.
A
Old
city
managers
are
important
as
far
as
resources.
So
you
you
want
to
have
people
like
long-term
employees
still
available
for
questions
and
things
like
that
and
and
having
the
full
confidence
of
whoever
is
there
and
their
place
can
go
to
them
for
information
and
things,
so
that's
not
easily
replaced,
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
experience
to
do
that.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
that
this
has
got
to
be
done
in
a
very
methodical
way,
a
very
mature
way,
and
certainly
not
in
a
personal
way,
and
and
and
just
have
your
conversation
with
the
city
manager.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
remind
everybody
is
that
our
charter
requires
us
to
have
personnel
evaluations
done
in
august,
so
please
obtain
copies
of
the
personnel
evaluation
forms
they're
new
this
year
right.
A
We
finally
improved
each
custom
ones
for
each
position,
including
mr
poulos,
ms
jacobs,
the
city
attorney
and
mr
licorice
of
the
four.
Please
work
on
those
ahead
of
time
and
let's
get
them
in
and
the
reason
why
theoretically,
they're
they're
tied
to
what
kind
of
a
salary
adjustment
that
that
individual
would
get
going
forward,
whether
they're
doing
a
good
job
or
not,
but
but
usually
it
it's.
It's
worked
out
that
they
get
their
their
salary
adjustment,
as
it's
budgeted.
A
I
can't
remember
where,
but
actually
it
happened
with
me
with
mr
trask,
mr
I
can't
remember,
but
there
was
one
or
two
of
them
that
were
only
here
for
just
a
couple
of
months,
the
exact
same
situation,
and
I
I
gave
the
evaluation
the
extent
I
can
and
I
just
simply
said
that
I'd
reserve
the
rest
of
it
until
I've
had
another
year
of
observing
to
be
able
to
make
a
full
evaluation
the
following
year,
but
the
charter
still
requires
one,
and
so,
if
you
have
you'll
see
that
there's
some
things
that
you
can
do
some
things
that
are
going
to
take
more
time
for
you
to
to
get
experience
with
that
individual
before
you
make
some
comments
with
them.
A
I
I
went
through
that
and
that's
that's
what
I
did
and
and
that
that's
all
I
have
on
that
note.
Is
there
anything
else
that
anybody's
got
to
say
any.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
end
the
meeting
now.
Yes,
chief
young,
no
commenting
mr
herring!
I
want
to
give
you
you
have
anything
to
say
they're,
so
patient.
B
H
Yeah,
commission
curiosity
mayor:
I
wanted
to
follow
up
yeah.
I
I'm
in
no
rush
for
the
transition.
Putting
money
to
this
side
is
a
smart
thing,
but
our
city
manager
worked,
I
believe
well
with
all
of
us.
Ever
since
we've
got
on
board
it's
it's
been,
it's
been
great
so
far,
and
I
did
have
the
florida
league
orientation
in
which
they
did
talk
about
the
annual
reviews
and,
more
often
than
not
those
those
beatings
are
at
least
going
over.
H
A
A
The
commission
was
well
represented
there.
A
couple
of
the
wives
were
there,
which
was
very
nice.
The
general
had
his
wife
and
a
couple
of
the
other
two
star
flag
officers
had
their
wives
as
well
there,
so
that
that
was
very
nice
and
I've.
Also,
as
a
result
of
this
asked
for
a
policy
to
be
written
on
this,
because
the
the
general
had
an
on
a
fairly
large
entourage,
which
was
a
little
overwhelming.
A
So
the
idea
behind
the
policy
would
be
that,
once
we
get
a
request
for
a
visit
like
that,
we
would
send
them
the
policy,
so
they
they
understand
what
the
what
the,
if
they
want
to
accept
the
invid
they
invite
themselves.
But
then
we
provide
them
the
policy
of
what
they
should
expect
to
get
here.
As
far
as
what
the
city's
willing
to
do.
A
Entourage,
that's
basically
it,
but
with
a
person
that
senior
that's,
not
that's,
not
unusual
at
all.
To
have
that
many
people
accompany
him.
So
yeah.
A
E
A
For
little
old
tarpon
springs,
you
don't
want
to
get
a
into
a
habit
of
of
entertaining
foreign
ministers
on
a
bi-weekly
basis.
You
know,
I
know
the
key
to
the
city
is
real
popular
with
these
guys,
but
but
you
know
just
what
are
we
going
to
get
out
of
it?
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at
so
city
manager.
Of
course,.
G
G
I
mean
that
was
unbelievable.
He
was
just
lost,
but
all
kidding
aside.
I
also
agree
with
what
commissioner
cooley
has
said.
I
get
along
with
the
city
manager
very
well,
he
knows
when
I'm
not
happy-
and
I
know
when
he's
not
happy
and
I
usually
win
those
any
which
way.
So
it
really
doesn't
matter,
but
I
I
have
no
qualms
right
now,
I'm
just
glad
that
we
spoke
about
it.
G
I
do
have
an
issue
that's
coming
up
on
tuesday
and
I
do
want
to
bring
it
up
not
now,
of
course,
I'll
just
leave
you
all
in
suspense,
but
I
I
think
this
was
a
good
meeting.
I
we
do
have
a
lot
of
this
elephant
to
eat
and
you
can
only
just
do
whatever
you
can
do.
G
It's
it's
not
easy
to
have
a
budget
where
it's.
You
really
need
a
lot
more
money
than
we
have
to
spend
and
no
matter
what
we
do.
Somebody's
gonna
be
unhappy,
and
that's
all
I
can
say
so
and
I
did
have
a
good
time
that
was
a
the
general
was
very
nice.
All
the
people
were
nice.
I
was
very
impressed
to
be
there
and
very
proud
to
be
there
to
represent
the
city.
So
that's
it
yeah.
A
I
I
think
many
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
is
just
not
a
matter
of
convenience
and
a
hassle.
I
think
some
of
them
are
just
go
to
the
heart
of
tarpon
springs.
I
I
think
that,
having
sidewalks
around
craig
park
that
flood
fail
have
to
have
cones
on
with
with
ribbons
and
things
like
that
is
not
just
a
matter
of
convenience
having
to
drive
or
drive
around
you
know,
for
example,
you
know
once
that
bridge
starts
working
and
we've
got
the
intersection
of
of
you
know
spring
boulevard.
A
G
A
A
I
do
encourage
you
to
I'm
sorry,
ms
jacobs,
do
you
have
anything?
I
do
encourage
you
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
city
manager.
This
is
one
of
my
reasons,
for
he
knows
that
this
is
one
of
my
reasons
to
bring
this
up
tonight
to
get
some
feedback
for
him
as
well.
So,
okay
is
that
all
we
have
yes,
okay,
meeting
adjourned
at
10,
10
pm.