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A
A
Okay
tonight
this
is
a
more
or
less
a
preliminary
work
session
on
the
budget
that
we
added
on
to
it.
Before
we
get
into
the
crux
of
everything.
Beginning
july
18th,
the
city
managers
put
the
agenda
together
and
brought
some
of
the
department
heads
in
here
to
present
some
information
and
mr
la
course,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you.
Okay,.
E
E
The
conventional
thing
is
the
first
part,
which
is
a
very
condensed
presentation
of
the
of
the
proposed
budget
overview
that
mr
herring
will
give
it's
very
condensed.
I
sent
you
a
lot
of
things.
That's
been
going
on
and
a
lot
of
the
presentations
that
be
made
to
the
budget
advisory
committee.
That
is
just
for
information
as
we
as
we
go
through
this
process.
So
so
we
will
do
that.
E
First
kind
of
the
whole
goal
of
tonight
and
bringing
you
here
before
we
get
into
the
budget
session
is
to
deal
with
the
big
ticket
issues.
First,
to
get
you
thinking
about
those
big
ticket
issues,
because
this
board
for
this
year
and
the
next
couple
years
will
have
the
chance
to
allocate
a
lot
of
money
towards
projects
some
which
are
new
and
some
which
has
been
waiting
a
long
time
to
be
allocated
to
when
we
get
the
item.
E
Two
I
put
together
at
the
end
of
the
packet
that
you
have
for
tonight
in
the
packet
for
tonight
does
have
some
new
information
that
I
didn't
send
to
you
sunday.
We
worked
on
that
information
today
to
get
to
you
and
again
it's
all
discussion.
There's
no
decisions,
no
definite
decisions
on
the
budget
you're
going
to
make
tonight
it's
just
to
let
you
know
the
big
picture,
everything
we've
got
out
there
and
what
we
need
to
do
over
july
and
august
before
we
get
to
the
public
hearings
on
the
budget
in
september.
E
So
we'll
go
over
that
again,
there's
a
worksheet
at
the
end.
That
tells
you
all
the
areas
for
this
year
and
for
some
upcoming
budgets
of
the
money
that
we
have
available
for
this
board
to
designate
to
the
priorities
that
they've
seen
not
only
in
the
community
engagement
we've
done
some
of
the
progress
we've
made
into
strategic
plan
and
what
we're
looking
at
in
there
and,
of
course,
it's
got
to
start
somewhere.
E
So
we
can
prepare
for
not
only
this
year
but
the
next
two
or
three
years
after
that,
with
the
process
we've
done.
And
then
the
last
item
is
just
to
talk
about
the
future
budget
work
sessions.
Every
commission
likes
to
do
the
work
sessions
a
different
way.
So
we
want
to
talk
about
how
we
want
to
do
those
two
sessions,
the
procedures
and
just
a
little
bit.
So
we're
prepared
for
how
to
do
the
19th
and
the
28th.
E
So
we'll
start
out
with
the
conventional
portion
of
the
meeting
I'll
have
ron.
Do
the
proposed
budget
outline
an
overview
that
he's
given
you
that
we've
given
you
here
tonight,
mr
mccoy.
A
Ms
daring,
before
you
start,
I
want
to
make
sure,
does
any
commissioner
have
any
questions
for
mr
la
course
about
tonight?
There's
not
going
to
be
any
decisions
that
are
going
to
be
made,
but
if
you've
got
any
questions
concerning
what
his
expectations
are
for
you
tonight,
please
ask
those
now.
F
Good
evening
mayor
commissioners,
ron
hearing
finance
director
and
congratulations
as
a
first
budget
workshop
for
the
new
year
for
you
all
and,
like
the
city
manager,
said,
I'm
just
trying
to
go
over
some
of
the
major
revenue
and
expenditure
assumptions
within
the
budget,
but
then
trying
to
get
into
the
the
major
funds
that
have
some
of
the
capital
items
that
we
need
to
have
some
decisions
on
and
just
an
overview.
The
budget
process
started
in
march
with
all
the
departments
keying
in
their
budget
in
april,
finance
did
the
payroll
calculation
and
revenue
projections.
F
Funds
were
balanced.
General
fund
was
balanced,
with
no
use
of
re
unrest,
unassigned
reserves
and
in
may
and
june,
the
budget
advisory
committee
met
with
the
departments
they've
spent
three
days
going
with
all
through
all
the
departments
with
their
budgets
with
them,
so
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
them.
F
Some
of
the
revenues
assumptions
of
the
of
the
major
revenues,
basically
projecting
them,
based
on
historicals
the
current
year
to
date
and
any
other
economic
factors,
property
taxes,
taxable
value,
increase
of
12
percent
per
county
estimate
and
the
millage
rate
remaining
at
5.37
is
in
the
budget.
F
Since
then,
on
july
1st,
we
got
the
certified
values
and
the
increase
is
14
percent.
Now
in
the
taxable
values-
and
I
I
gotta
say
I-
I
love
the
high
number-
you
know
usually
we're
in
six
to
seven
percent,
but
I
sort
of
worry
when
something's
that
high
and
there's
recession
talk
out
there
and
last
time
we
had
numbers.
This
high
was
in
2008.
F
2009
was
the
start
of
the
recession
and
we
had
five
years
of
property
taxes
going
down
for
five
years.
So
I
I
hope
it
stays,
but
I
decide
sometimes
maybe
it's
me
I'm
in
finance
and
we
worry
a
lot
and
stuff,
but
water
and
sewer
fees.
Of
course,
no
increase
per
the
ordinance
sanitation
fees
projected
on
the
new
contract.
F
F
Expenditure
assumptions,
police
and
fire
union
increases
per
their
contract.
The
rest
of
the
general
employees
we've
funded
at
five
percent
increase.
There
are
no
new
positions
at
the
budget
at
this
time.
Health
insurance
increase
is
estimated
at
five
percent
property
liability
insurance
increase
at
ten
percent
and
workers,
comp
insurance
increase
estimated
at
10
percent.
We
haven't
gotten
those
final
numbers,
yet
usually
we
get
them
in
august.
F
The
summary
information
for
the
general
fund,
the
general
fund
budget,
is
30
million,
774
000
property
taxes
within
there.
The
revenues
is
12.2
million,
that's
40
percent
of
the
general
fund
revenues
and
the
millage
rate
at
5.37,
and
we
did
not
use
any
unassigned
reserves
and
revenues
over
expenditures
be
allocated.
This
is
money
available
to
be
allocated
at
482
000,
but
this
was
based
on
the
12
taxable
values,
so
that
number
has
now
gone
up
to
638
000,
that's
available
that
bottom
number
there
just
to
go
over
the
american
rescue
plan
a
little
bit.
F
You
know
we're
receiving
the
12.8
million.
We
got
6.4
million
last
september,
we're
supposed
to
get
the
remaining
6.4
million
in
september
of
2022.
We're
required
to
do
quarterly
reporting,
since
we
got
over
10
million.
We
did
our
first
quarterback
at
the
end
of
march.
31St
projects
approved
so
far
are
south
spring
tidal
flooding,
94
000,
the
roofs
chiller
at
the
public
safety
building,
900
000
mental
health
crisis
center
vision,
intervention
for
public
safety
employees,
48,
000,
bayshore
septic
to
sewer
1
million
city-wide
advertising
marketing
100
000..
F
F
Just
some
important
information
on
the
american
rescue
plan,
all
the
funds
have
to
be
obligated
and
like
in
the
form
of
a
purchase
order
contract
by
december
31st
2024,
that's
two
and
a
half
years
from
now
and
all
the
funds
have
to
be
expended
cash
out
the
door
all
gone
by
december,
31st,
2026
and
interest
earnings
per
arpa.
We
can
use
for
any
city
purpose.
F
Hopefully
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
hopefully
read
this,
but
this
is
the
arpa
fund
and
it's
showing
the
revenues
up
top
and
trying
to
show
the
current
year.
Oh
sorry,
wrong.
Button
like
a
current
year
2022
with
the
revenues
here
up
to
12.8
million,
and
then
these
expenditures
we
just
mentioned
and
then
highlighted
down
here
in
yellow,
is
what's
remaining
the
10.7
million.
If
you
take
out
that
360
000
I
just
mentioned
for
the
for
the
roof,
chiller
public
safety
building,
it
brings
maybe
about
10.3
million
available
to
allocate
for
the
arpa
money.
F
I
know
there's
a
lot
on
here,
but
this
is
a
penny
fund
and
these
are
all
the
projects
that
are
budgeted
within
the
penny
fund
for
this
current
year.
F
This
is
2023
and
we
usually
have
our
standard
annual
ones
here
for
the
police,
fire
and
brick
streets,
but
it
leaves
about
2.5
million
left
in
the
penny
fund.
We
like
to
keep
about
200
000
in
there,
so
we're
saying.
Maybe
we
got
2.3
million
available
for
expenditure
in
the
penny
fund,
the
cra,
you
know
just
a
little
information.
You
probably
already
know
this,
but
you
know
was
created
in
2001
expires
after
30
years,
the
area
of
it
from
alternate
19
from
mirrors
to
the
sponge
docks
the
base
year.
Taxable
value
was
41
million.
F
F
And
this
is
a
cra
again
showing
the
cur
your
projects
that
are
out
there
and
then
here's
2023
with
the
revenues
expenditures
going
down
here
within
highlighted
in
yellow,
there's
537
000
remaining
to
be
allocated.
We
like
to
keep
about
a
hundred
thousand
in
there,
so
we
got
about
430,
437
000
that
can
be
allocated.
F
And
one
last
slide
just
going
over
the
the
timeline
for
the
budget
process.
F
You
know
we
got
the
certified
values
friday
tonight
we're
meeting
trying
to
get
another
proposed
budget
book
to
you
all
by
july
11th
before
the
next
meeting,
the
first,
I
guess
the
first
official
budget
workshop
on
july
19th,
the
city
commission
on
tuesday
the
26th
establishes
a
maximum
millage
rate.
It's
required
per
state
requirements
that
the
maximum
millage
rate
be
established,
so
that
will
be
coming
before
the
board.
F
The
second
budget
workshop
is
planned
for
july
28th
still
to
be
determined
if
there's
a
third
budget
workshop,
and
then
we
get
into
the
public
hearings
on
tuesday
september
6
and
then
wednesday,
sept
21st
21st,
and
then
the
budget's
done
and
we
go
october.
1St
is
the
start
of
the
new
fiscal
year.
With
that.
A
Okay,
I
want
to
just
ask
you're:
okay
with
that,
okay,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
commissioner
if
you'd
like
to
make
comments
now,
question
of
lunt
wow.
A
Okay,
no,
our
comments
are
that's.
C
Fine
commissioner,.
A
G
F
A
A
D
D
F
Well,
currently
that
we
have
that
in
a
reserve
for
funding,
I
know
some
of
the
thoughts
are,
you
could
put
it
back
into
unassigned
fund
balance
and
just
okay.
Let's
build
up
the
unassigned
fund
balance
from
8.8
million
to
you
know,
9.4
million.
So
that's
one
choice.
I
guess
the
other
is
it's
going
to
depend
on
the
board
of
positions
or
whatever
else
might
be
requested
within
the
general
fund?
This
is
just
a
general
fund.
D
Right,
I
know
we
would
make
the
decision,
but
what
kind
of
recommendation
from
your
gut
would?
It
is
what
I'm
asking.
F
What
I
see
a
lot
of
time
is,
you
know
we
during
coven
stuff,
we
had
a
lot
of
operating
expenses
that
you
know
we
cut
back
on
operating.
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
money
go
into
operating,
I'd
like
to
also
have
a
maintenance
reserve,
so
we
have
money
in
case
I
don't
know.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
somebody
comes
up
to
my
office
and
needs
a
new
air,
conditioner
and
stuff.
I
won't
mention
you
know
just
okay,.
D
F
Think
what
we've
put
in
there
we've
looked
at
all
the
other
communities
in
the
area
and
a
lot
of
them
are
doing
between
about
averaging
five
percent.
Some
are
doing
six
percent,
so
we
thought
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
losing
you
know,
personnel
and
stuff,
like
that,
let's,
let's
put
it,
let's
put
five
percent
in
there
instead
of
three
percent.
I.
D
Agree,
I
just
was
curious
what
your
take
on
that
was.
Let
me
just
see,
because
I
had
one
more
question
on
the
american
rescue
plan.
Have
we
looked
into
at
all
speaking
to
people
who
really
got
financially
strapped
by
the
covid
events
lost
jobs
or
their
income
changed
drastically
lost
to
business?
D
You
know
I
keep
seeing
and
it's
I've
spoken
about
this
on
a
number
of
occasions.
It's
easy
to
spend
12
million
dollars.
I
I
know
I
looked
at
the
wish
list.
The
wish
list
is
40
million
dollars.
What
we'd
like
to
have?
How
do
we
get
that
money
to
the
people
that
really
are
destitute.
F
I
guess
that
would
determine
on
trying
to
go
out
to
the
community.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
have
somebody
like
your
economic
development
person
and
going
out
to
try
to
figure
what
do
you
have
to
figure
out?
How
do
you
want
to
be
distributing
this
money
to
the
community
in
what
fashion
you
know
if
it's
to
help
out
with
utility
bills
or
what
other
item
there
might
be
well.
F
D
We
set
aside
an
x
amount
of
dollars
as
a
commission
to
put
that
aside
to
be
distributed
later
down
the
road.
I
mean
not
far
down
the
road.
I
understand,
but
I
mean
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
people
that
are
really
hurting
in
town,
get
something
that
we're
not
just
distributing
to
infrastructure
and
we,
you
know,
we'll,
take
care
of
the
sewer.
D
F
A
You,
commissioner,
let
me
go
to
commissioner
kulias
next.
B
I
just
wanted.
I
was
happy
that
commissioner
eiser
asked
a
question
about
the
pay
increase
for
the
general
employees.
I
think
we
need
to
be
competitive
with
all
the
nearby
cities,
and
that
was
the
only
question
I
had
and
it
was
answered
right
now.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah
thanks
mary
had
a
couple
other
clarifying
aspects
so
mark
we
in
in
the
past
board,
we
talked
about
pnc
insurance
and
workman's
comp
insurance
going
out
to
bid.
Is
there
any
plan
for
that?
I
think
jane
at
the
time
said
it
was
a
good
idea
and
you
all
talked
about
doing
that.
G
Okay
yeah,
so
we
don't
know
where
that's
going
to
come
back,
so
that
would
be
interesting
to
see
where
that
lands
and
then
also,
I
know,
ron
you're,
very
conservative
with
everything
that
you
do
and
you're
talking
about
how
it's
we're
having
more
revenue
increase.
But
I
can
tell
you
from
a
the
standpoint
just
like
we're
giving
the
employees
an
increase
in
their
wages,
five
percent
on
average.
G
The
homeowners
also
are
paying
more
in
tax
dollars.
So
we
have
to
be
conscious
about
the
millage
rate
and
where
that's
at
also,
I
know
mark
sent
out
an
email
with
the
link
to
an
article
that
was
written
in
tampa
bay
times.
I
understand
costs
are
going
up,
but
as
public
servants
we
need
to
be
cautious
and
aware
of
our
values
are
going
up
and
our
millage
rate
should
be
going
down.
Also,
I'm
not
saying
a
drastic
millage
rate
change,
but
it's
something
that
we
really
should
be
looking
at
as
a
whole
picture.
G
A
A
Creating
some
kind
of
design
guidelines
for
the
greektown
historic
district,
which
I
think
need
to
be
done,
but
then,
when
you
ask
the
planning
director
about
it,
basically
they
haven't
even
been
adopted
as
a
local
district.
Yet
so
I
think
the
more
appropriate
question
that
regard
is:
what
do
we
do?
What
do
we
need
in
order
to
adopt
them
as
a
historic
district?
Do
we
to
create
these
design
guidelines
and
what
else
would
be
needed
in
that
process?
A
A
If
you
will
be
talking,
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
so
to
the
unions
at
some
point
in
the
future,
to
get
a
sense,
and
also
our
to
our
police,
chief
and
fire
chief,
to
get
a
sense
of
what
others
are
having
to
experience
with
increases
in
public
safety
pay
and
also
what
we're
beginning
to
see
in
other
community
surrounding
communities.
A
With
regard
to
pay
everything
that
you
see
that
you
experience
in
a
grocery
store
with
increased
prices,
gets
pushed
back
to
those
employees
as
well,
they
exceed
they
experience
them
as
well.
So
I
I
think
that
the
job
market
we're
just
on
the
verge
of
it
becoming
very
competitive,
and
I
I
would
like
for
us
to
kind
of
stay
ahead
of
the
curve.
So
we
don't
wind
up
getting
into
an
extrema
situation
where
some
of
our
employees
have
gone
to
better
pay.
A
A
I,
if
that's
what
this
commission
wants
to,
do,
that's
fine,
but
for
me
I
I
tend
to
go
down
and
look
at
the
trends
of
what
the
increases
are
and
what
the
decreases
are
for
each
department
and
if
it's
consistent,
then
I've
got
my
trust
in
departments
of
managing
their
own
and
and
of
course
they
do
a
good
job.
They've
kept
us
out
of
trouble
so
far.
It
seems
that
all
the
decisions
that
get
us
into
trouble
are
months
made
by
the
community
by
the
commission.
At
least.
A
That's
been
my
experience
in
the
past,
so
any
case
we'll
see
how
that
goes
going
forward,
but
I
really
don't
the
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
too
ron
herring
counts
money,
it's
plus
minus.
He
doesn't
ask.
Why
is
this
happening
or
why
is
that?
Unless
something
isn't
adding
up
and
he
really
doesn't
get
into
the
policy
end
of
it
with
regard
to
some
of
the
departments
and
things
like
that,
those
questions
are
more
appropriate
for
the
department.
A
Is
he
can
tell
you
as
far
as
revenues
and
and
maybe
things
that
we
aren't
going
to
be
seeing
this
year
from
from
a
budgeting
from
dollars
and
and
coming
from
the
state
in
terms
of
taxes
and
things
like
that,
but,
for
example,
the
allocation
of
money,
the
the
arpa
money
for
distributing
would
be
something
that
I
think
that
we
would
have
to
have.
Somebody
else
work
on
that
other
than
right,
yeah
and-
and
so
that's
all.
A
I
I
see
that
happen
on
occasion
with
ron
and
you're
ron's,
always
really
wanting
to
answer
the
question,
but
sometimes
it
might
be
better
to
have.
Somebody
else
answer
that
too,
at
the
at
a
better
time.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
for
the
follow-up
anything
else?
Okay,
see
manager.
E
For
item
two
capital
projects
and
I've
got
three
divisions:
arpa
penny
and
sierra
we're
going
to
kind
of
do
them
all
together.
I
think
I
think
where
to
start
the
packet
that
you
had
left
out,
go
to
the
end
where
it
has
a
funds.
Worksheet
and
again
that's
for
you,
you
may
throw
it
away
leader,
you
may
computerize!
You
may
do
something.
This
is
my
cheat
sheet
that
I'm
going
to
be
using
during
the
broad
the
budget
process.
E
E
This
year's
general
fund
budget
penny
and
cra
of
the
amount
of
money
we
do
not
have
expended
yet.
So
this
is
the
money
that
this
board
is
going
to
allocate
what
to
do
with
in
the
budget
general
fund.
You
you
heard
from
his
presentation,
638
011
penny
for
pinellas
right
now:
unobligated
2
million
268
000
and
change
cra
437.
E
G
E
Are
those
are
the
major
projects
you're
going
to
see
the
major
water,
the
major
buildings,
the
whole
list?
What
we'll
be
going
over
when
you,
when
you
see
the
things
we're
going
on
the
other
list?
Those
are
going
to
be
those
type
of
projects
that
are
that
are
in
there.
Obviously,
there
may
be
some
other
things
that
are
slotted
in
some
things.
Some
wishes
of
commissioner.
That
may
come
up
in
the
other
things,
but
those
are
the
those
are
the
main
things
you're
going
to
see:
capital
expenditures.
E
When
you
look
at
the
second
page,
that
shows
you
the
outlook
again,
this
commission
is
going
to
be
involved
in
setting
the
course
for
the
next
three
years.
So
what
you
see
in
the
second
page
is
when
you
set
the
basis
you're
going
to
set
the
start
of
the
processes
with
this
year's
budget
of
what
are
the
priorities?
What
do
we
need
to
do
first,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
very
important,
that
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
slot
in
the
first
year.
E
If
you
want
to
decide
if
you
want
to
split
a
big
project
up
in
over
several
years,
this
is
the
estimated
money
you're
going
to
have
for
penny
in
2023,
24
and
2024
25,
and
for
cra
for
both
those
two
years
again
unallocated
money
that
you'll
have
discretion
over
of
the
items
that
come
after
what
you
budget
for
the
first
year
and,
of
course
the
last
page
is
just
that's
where
you
have
the
arpa
funding
and
obviously
the
projects
you
slot
in
there
you're
not
going
to
have
to
slot
them
into
one
of
these
places.
E
So
this
is
kind
of
a
three-year
worksheet
as
we
go
through
the
different
things.
This
is
where
you
know
I'm
going
to
be
placed
in
the
projects
at
this
board
in
our
budget
process
in
the
next
two
meetings.
Friends,
just
to
give
an
example,
I
think
under
arpa
I
think
the
federal
government
kind
of
dictated
with
giving
it
with
congressman
bill.
Iraq
has
given
us
two
men,
it
kind
of
obligates
us
to
find
the
other
3.3
million
for
the
craig
park
project.
Now
again,
remember
we
asked
for
four
million
from
the
federal
government.
E
We
got
two
obviously
they're
ready
to
allocate
we're
ready
to
start
the
design.
All
of
you
know
the
importance
of
that
project.
We're
ready
to
go
with
it,
but
somewhere
we
got
to
allocate
3.2
3.3
million.
Obviously
I
think
that's
the
that's
the
one
place
where
you're
going
to
have
some
money
plugged
into
probably
arpa.
E
Obviously
you
could
use
one
of
these
other
places
to
plug
3.3
million,
but
that's
probably
the
logical
place
it
does
and
of
course,
then,
that
total
will
be
10,
3
minus
minus,
whatever
we
allocate
for
that
and
that's
the
r
for
money.
That's
how
I'm
saying
this
is
kind
of
a
worksheet
we're
going
to
be
using,
but
that's
an
example
of
one
project
that
kind
of
accelerated,
because
you
know
he
put
it
in.
We
got
it:
it's
not
absolutely
100.
E
When
you
talk
to
him,
it's
not
absolutely,
but
it's
real
close,
because
it
met
that
important
second
step.
Right
mayor
there
was
two:
the
first
steps
of
putting
in
was
okay,
pretty
good.
The
second
step
was
the
big
one,
and
now
obviously
it
can
get
cut,
but
if
it
doesn't
get
cut,
they're
going
to
be
ready
to
give
us
two
million
dollars
and
we're
going
to
need
to
come
up
with
the
other
three
to
do
it.
So
that's
where
that
would
be
be
slotted.
E
Some
of
the
new
material
I
gave
you
and
again
is
things
to
think
about.
Some
of
you
already
have,
for
instance,
the
arp
of
funding,
starting,
I
put
in
the
packet.
You
know
the
staff
recommendation
they've
been
revised,
some
and
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
those
a
little
bit.
As
you
see
up
number
one
in
the
arpa
is
the
craig
park
seawall
project.
E
Obviously
it
got
moved
up
and
the
rest
of
them
aren't
in
any
order
really,
but
that
was
kind
of
up
to
number
one,
because
that's
the
one
we
got
to
decide
for
where
funding
is
next
project
and
it's
it's
based
on
the
audit.
We
did-
and
I
know
tommy
and
paul-
are
here
to
talk
about
it
either
tonight
or
when
it
comes
to
the
budget
meetings.
E
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
want
to
talk
to
them
about
it
from
our
audit
of
security,
a
major
hit
with
the
cyber
security
for
water,
sewer
and
stormwater.
That's
under
talk
about
the
fire
station.
You
see
the
estimate
has
gone
up
a
little
bit
because
of
the
cost.
That's
happened,
that's
moved
up.
Remember
you
don't
need
the
finances
all.
If
you
decide
to
use
arpa
funds,
you
don't
need
to
decide
all
of
it.
If
you
remember
when
we
permanently
leased
or
sold
or
whatever
you
whatever,
we
call,
the
structure
remain
for
the
cell
tower.
E
We've
got
about
eight
hundred
thousand
set
aside
dedicated.
That's
was
getting
bad
interest,
maybe
to
get
a
little
better
interest
now,
but
so
we'll
have
just
under
a
million
dollars.
That's
already
allocated
from
there.
There
also
could
be
over
a
couple
years,
depending
on
the
timing.
You
want
to
do
for
the
fire
station,
some
million
dollar
allocations.
You
could
do
in
the
penny
money.
So
just
because
you
see
six
million
from
arpa.
That
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
finance
the
whole
fire
station
project.
E
If
you
choose
from
ark,
but
you
give
it
a
good
portion
to
to
make
it
move
along
faster
again
as
you
slot
slot
the
cost,
if
you
decided
something
originally,
when
we
first
did
it
probably
in
2018
2018
2019,
we
kind
of
said
the
design
somewhere
in
2023
24
and
build
2025-26
again,
that
was
based,
probably
four
or
five
years
ago.
Last
time
we
did
that
the
importance
of
it
is
where
you
want
to
slide
it
over
the
next
five
years.
E
E
I
think,
because
it's
a
it's
a
center,
that's
going
to
incorporate
services
to
to
the
underserved,
not
just
the
cops
and
kids
but
to
bring
in
those
services
to
the
community
that
people
have
to
go
to
clearwater
now
go
down
county
for
that
it'll
be
a
center
to
house
services
right
there
for
people
in
need,
especially
the
community.
E
If
we
wanted
to
accelerate
that
and
replace
more
pipes,
then
that's
where
that
allocation
comes
in
to
to
kind
of
double
up
and
start
moving
those
pipes
and
moving
the
timeline
of
changing
those
pipes
up
up
sooner,
the
septic,
the
sewer
florida
avenue
phase
one.
We,
if
you
remember,
we
had
a
big
phase,
a
five
million
dollar
phase.
We
decided
to
to
cut
that
down
to
be
a
little
more
reasonable.
E
So
that's
a
right!
Now
a
dedicated
2026
project
if
the
board
was
a
thing
that
it
needed
to
be
moved
up,
because
the
importance
of
the
the
septic
close
to
waters
for
sustainability
and
other
reasons
is
slotted
in
there,
but
it's
not
slotted
to
2026,
probably
done
27-28.
E
Obviously
that
can
stay
in
the
rotation
to
be
done
at
that
time.
If
this
board
thought
it
was
important
where
we
could
use
the
narpa
money
or
another
set
of
money
to
move
that
up
which,
again,
when
that
moves
up
the
number
two
project,
which
would
be
the
phase
two
that
would
probably
move
up
to
2026
and
we'd
slide
it
along
the
lines.
E
In
addition,
you
see
is
just
a
preliminary
estimate
we're
going
to
be
going
next
after
we
get
done
with
the
big
dredging
project.
Looking
at
the
river
and
bayou's
dredging,
again,
you
could
allocate
some
of
our
money
or
again
you
could
slot
it
in
the
penny
slots
when
you're
doing
the
budget
for
coming
up
in
the
next
few
years.
E
A
couple
storm
water
projects
are
in
there
again.
The
purpose
of
them
would
be
to
speed
them
up,
I'm
not
sure
when
they're
allotted
but
to
speed
them
up,
we've
got
two
smaller
projects,
that'll
probably
be
moved
to
penny.
I
probably
recommend
they
move
to
penny,
but
they
could
also
be
moved
to
arpa.
E
The
new
one
is
the
heritage
museum
building
improvements,
we're
in
negotiation
with
christopher
stiller
right
now
to
do
a
very
large,
christopher,
still
permanent
display
at
the
heritage
museum,
which
I
think
would
be
a
boom
for
that
for
that
building
and
the
usage
and
getting
people
with
we're
talking
about
some
major
pieces,
including
one
the
size
of
one
of
those
panels,
are
bigger
on
the
wall
displayed
in
there.
E
We
need
money
to
make
that
display,
look
right
and
he
is
putting
in
some
of
his
money.
Also
in
some
of
these
things.
To
do
that.
So
that's
an
addition
that
you'll
see
on
there.
The
library
improvement
was
important.
Obviously,
last
commission
meeting,
you
know
I
had
to
send
an
email
before
july.
First
that
we
were
going
to
extend
the
grant
to
ask
again
for
the
state
ground
on
libraries
this
year,
no
library
got
a
grant
from
the
state.
E
So
I'm
not
thinking
the
chances
are
next
year.
If
we
apply
for
that
grant
that
we
have
a
chance
to
get
it
next
year,
my
recommendation
is
somehow
and
again
this
is
just
for
the
interior
improvements.
There's
also,
I
talked
to
the
mayor
today
about
another
phase
that
would
go
after
the
improvement.
Go
every
want,
but
about
some
expansion
of
the
library,
but
this
is
the
interior
that
kerry's
been
putting
in
grants
for
for
a
couple
of
years.
E
Yes,
we
can
go
for,
we've
already
got
500
000
budgeted.
We
were
going
for
the
match
from
this
the
state.
Again
we
didn't
get
it.
If
I
apply
again-
and
I
come
to
you
in
in
july
with
the
thing
to
extend
it-
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
hope
in
getting
it
then
so,
obviously,
in
two
years
we're
gonna
do
it,
but
that
interior
and
the
the
rooms
and
we'll
have
carrie
to
talk
to
you
a
little
more
about
that.
I
just
we
tried
for
the
grant.
E
I
think
it's
the
time
in
with
the
library
and
how
many
people
in
the
community,
the
library
affects
that
500,
that
extra
500
we
need
that
we
need
the
slot
and
then
we
need
to
talk
about
what
point
in
the
years
years
of
the
process
and
what
will
we
be
looking
at
to
see
about
the
opportunity
for
maybe
an
expansion
of
that
building?
So
you
know
how
much
it's
used,
but
this
would
get
the
first.
This
will
get
all
the
interior
work
we
need
to
do
done,
ready
to
go
and
set.
E
While
we
talked
about
that.
So
that's
just
my
recommendation
again.
It's
for
our
budget
meetings
and
stuff
to
talk
about
which
way
the
board
wants
to
go
on
that,
and
then
we
talked
about
the
end,
the
two
extensions
for
the
the
chiller
and
maybe
for
the
sewer
projects.
We
might
need
extra
money
from
again
that
money
can
come
from
arpa
money
or
you
can
slot
that
extra.
We
need.
You
could
slot
that
in
the
penny
for
pinellas
money
and
we
could
we
could
do
that
there.
You
got
a
lot
of
options.
E
E
You
know,
I
agree
with
jason
dunkel
if
a
pandemic
or
another
emergency
happens
again.
That
is
probably
the
biggest
need
to
have
that
on
him,
because
a
lot
of,
if
you
remember
during
covid,
they
had
to
stage
people
outside
so
an
awning
all
the
way
around
with
those
people
staging
outside
or
undercover,
is
their
highest
priority,
and
I
would
think
of
this
1.1
million,
but
again
we're
consider
arpa.
Then
that's
a
consideration.
E
We
also
have
some
recommendations
from
the
sustainability
committee.
Again,
these
can
be
either
arpa.
The
tree
inventory
and
tree
inventory
number
four.
We
just
got
a
big
grant
for
so
so
that's
covered,
but
that's
just
some
of
their
ideas
to
consider
as
we
go
along
and
I'm
sure
we
may
have
some
more
come
in,
but
but
this
is
the
sheet
right
now
of
of
things
we
we
have
to
consider
that
I
included
in
your
backup.
E
I
also
gave
you
a
sheet
and
not
any
order,
some
not
to
do
with
arpa
but
anywhere
in
the
budget.
I
gave
you
some
citizen
initiatives,
we
know
about
so
far.
E
One
is
the
union
academy,
museum
and
and
again
that
wasn't
sent
out
in
my
sunday
mass
emailing,
because
I
tried
I
had
to
get
kevin
to
try
to
find
some
of
the
paperwork
on
it.
That's
about
an
african-american
history,
museum
of
500
000
at
that
property
we
gained
when
we
tore
down
the
building
at
five
500
oakwood
street.
E
The
greek
town
vision
plan,
which
the
mayor
talked
about
a
little
bit
and,
of
course,
that
we've
seen
from
our
last
meetings
and
we
got
some
for
the
12th
if,
if,
if
we're
going
to
begin
the
process
of
pickleball
courts,
that's
something
for
consideration
when
we're
when
we're
doing
all
of
our
our
slotting,
I
gave
you
a
brief
sheet
of
some
of
the
potential
property
purchases
that
we
may
need
to
fund
somewhere
in
these.
In
in
the
budgeting
processes,
I
pretty
much
have
an
idea
on
the
first
two,
the
ross
property
and
cocoa's.
E
Again,
this
is
potential.
We
still
have
to
negotiate
deals
and
commission
has
to
decide
they
want
to
move
forward
with
them.
If
you
remember
the
ross
properties,
the
great
storm
water
and
land
preservation
to
keep
an
area
of
storm
water
from
being
maybe
a
couple
homes
or
something
like
that
and
the
core
is
parked
the
unknowns
which
are
some
big
ticket
items.
These
are
big
ticket
money
items
why
I
don't
even
want
to
speculate
on
them?
E
Obviously
the
stamis
property
for,
for
you
know
to
have
a
permanent
place
for
the
dredging
and
the
staffer
property.
Those
are
unknowns
and,
and
it's
unknown
when
we
need
to
slot
them
in,
but
again
it's
something
for
you
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
deciding
during
the
budget
process
where
we're
gonna,
where
we're
gonna
put
these
items.
E
We
are
real,
close,
very
close,
so
obviously
they
put
in
for
funds
last
year
too,
but
I
really
see
a
potential
of
us
getting
those
that's
why
the
police
officer
is
not
in
there,
because
I
used
to
be
chief
and
I
like
them
more
than
fire,
it's
it's
that
I
think
we're
real
close
to
getting
with
the
counties
a
lot
of
the
counties,
dime
three
of
those
firefighters
and
maybe
even
as
soon
as
october,
depending
on
the
numbers,
we
may
be
a
little
off,
but
I
think
by
next
year
we
should
have
that
to
be
so.
E
That's
why
those
were
in
there.
The
one
civilian
position
is
just
one
that
jeff
is
begging
me
for,
and
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
which
we
predicted
with
the
cameras
and
the
videos
and
redacting
and
you're
taking
officers,
time
and
stuff
off
the
road,
and
it's
big.
It's
almost
begin
what
you
have
to
do
before
you,
it's
not
as
easy
as
you
want
a
video
put
it
in.
They
got
the
the
whole
process.
Jeff,
I'm
sure
we'll
talk
to
you
about
so
the
civilian
position
wasn't
in
here.
E
It
wasn't
on
my
list
that
I
was
working
on
five
days
ago,
but
and
it's
not
something
maybe
something
next
year,
but
eventually
we
have
to
stop
pulling
officers
to
do
this
and
have
somebody
dedicated
to
that
down
the
line.
E
So
that's
the
rationale
why
the
pl
and
obviously
the
police
officers,
all
they're
doing
if,
if
you
just
think
about
officer
boone
and
what
he
does
if
he
had
a
couple
more
officers
where
he
could
dedicate
another
officer,
boone
just
think
what
that
could
do
with
the
problems
and
the
stuff.
The
calls
you
get
every
day
in
the
community.
Those
officers
go
out
and
problem
solve.
E
The
second
area,
of
course,
of
great
need,
if
we
want
to
do,
is,
is
in
public
works
and
the
two
biggest
needs,
I'm
old
school
and
probably
the
city
manager.
Only
the
the
mayor
only
knows
from
the
city
manager
today
is
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
the
two
parks
position
are
more
of
a
blitz
crew.
We
used
to
call
them
back
in
day
of
blitz
crew.
These
were
your
troubleshooters
who
went
out
with
whatever
problems
you
had
in
the
community
that
come
up
and
they
would
be
there
to
take
care
of
it.
E
E
We've
been
trying
to
hit
off,
probably
for
four
months,
pick
areas
and
neighborhoods,
where
we'd
pay
particular
attention
and
go
street
by
street
and
look
for
problems
overgrown
grass
and
the
sidewalk
different
things.
We
identified
those
two
neighborhoods
as
greek
town
in
the
union
academy
neighborhood.
E
We
have
not
been
able
to
put
a
crew
together
because
of
our
workload,
people
out
again
openings.
We
have
not
even
be
able
to
start
that
project.
We
talked
about
four
months
ago
and
started
going
street
by
street.
We
just
haven't.
Had
the
personnel
we've
been
trying
to
keep
up
so
if
there's
any
need
and
a
need
that
the
citizens
would
see.
E
It'd
probably
be
there
and,
of
course,
that
that,
second,
that
third
position,
which
is
the
amount
of
signage
and
street
striping
and
crosswalks
and
stuff
that
needs
to
be
done,
have
to
be
done
with
the
future
to
get
all
those
things
done
in
a
timely
manner.
We,
the
poor
one,
sign
guy,
we
work
him
to
death
and
we
still
can't
keep
up
so
so
to
move
those
things
like
crosswalks,
intersection,
striping,
signage
and
all
that
stuff.
Further,
that's
a
real
need
somewhere
down
the
road.
E
If
not
this
year,
it's
probably
going
to
be
next
year
and
then
the
last
position,
and
it
relates
to
a
lot
of
what
people
were
talking
about
last
year
we
talked
about
the
grant
water
rider,
but
we
need
more.
If
we're
going
to
do
that
position,
we
need
more
of
a
grant
writer
and
a
grant
project
coordinator.
E
That's
why
you
see
the
cost
a
little
higher
on
that
and
again
you
see
the
costs,
they're,
not
recommendations
for
me
they're.
Just
if
you
ask
me
the
priorities
from
the
list,
you
had
done
not
you
because
some
of
you
weren't
on
when
last
year
the
mayor
was
and
and
mr
carr
was
about
everybody-
put
in
what
and
yet
a
long
list
of
positions
from
a
lot
of
departments.
E
E
Where
are
we
going
to
start
what
projects
can
we
start
on
in
what
order?
And
how
are
we
going
to
look
forward
in
the
next
two
or
three
years
to
do
these?
Obviously,
you
have
to
have
a
starting
point
and
that's
going
to
be
the
hard
decisions
that
again
we
can
bring.
We
talk
about
the
procedures
and
number
three.
You
know
how
we
want
to
bring
the
departments
in
the
budget.
E
What
you
want
to
talk
about,
what
more
information
do
you
have,
so
you
can
make
the
decisions
and
where
this
board
collectively
in
their
mind,
are
going
to
slot
these
needs.
What
they
see
important
the
slot,
what
they
don't
slot
and
where
and
what
funding
source
do
we
have?
Are
they
going
to
put
those
in?
I
know
it's
a
lot
that
that's
one
of
the
important
reasons
we
thought
we
need
to
have
that
meeting,
because
we
didn't
want
to
throw
all
of
this
on
you,
the
19th.
E
We
want
to
give
a
couple
weeks
of
of
looking
at
what
you
have
set
in
front
of
you
and
again
it's
not
only
for
this
year.
It
almost
equated
to
enlightening
talk
about
their
trade
of
mcdonough,
and
it
wasn't
just
for
this
year,
it's
for
next
year
and
the
year
after
again,
this
board
is
going
to
have
the
chance
when
we
have
the
elect
reliable,
have
for
the
five
commissioners
here
on
board
next
april.
E
That
board
has
two
years
because
there's
no
election
in
between,
so
this
board
not
only
is
going
to
set
the
starting,
but
the
majority
of
this
board
is
going
to
set
those
next
two
years
and
have
these
all
put
into
place.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
look
at
three
years
and
even
maybe
up
to
five
and
this
board
is
gonna,
have
a
very
important
place,
because
you're
gonna
dictate
the
history
of
of
of
what
gets
done
and
believe
me,
the
town.
We
start
working
on
the
sponge
docks
drainage
start
working
very
soon.
E
On
the
light
on
19,
we
finished
our
mirrors
portion.
We
do
the
craig
park
seawall
there.
This
board
is
going
to
see
construction
all
over
this
town
of
improvements
they're
going
to
see.
So
that's
why
this
budget
and
the
upcoming
ones
are
a
little
different
than
some
of
the
other
years
and
very
important
to
go
forward
with,
and
I
tried
to
give
you
as
many
things,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
more.
I
don't
have
commission
initiatives,
I'm
not
sure
there
may
be
some
of
your
initiatives.
You
want
for
the
budget.
E
They're
gonna
be
talked
about
in
the
future,
that'll
be
added
to
these
different
phases
and
stuff.
So
basically,
I
want
to
give
you
overview
and
questions
of
of
you
know
what
the
chore
is:
the
19th
and
the
28th
to
move
forward
to
can.
A
You
just
give
about
30
seconds
about
the
unfunded
capital
projects
that
you've
got
in
the
back
up.
It's
the
staff
requested,
but
unfunded.
Oh
yes,
just
the
philosophy
behind
that.
So
yes,.
E
Those
those
those
those
are
those
are
real
important.
That's
one
thing
I
didn't
include
in
the
back:
if
I
probably
should
I
and
what
I
sent
to
you.
Obviously
the
the
departments
sent
us
items
for
this
upcoming
budget.
Those
are
items
that
didn't
make
the
cutting
block
of
the
original
budget,
so
those
need
to
be
looked
at.
Also,
you
may
want
to
talk
to
the
different
departments
when
we
come
to
those
two
budget
meetings,
a
lot
of
them
are
very
important
to
the
to
the
departments.
E
But
again
we
we
wanted
to
especially
this
year.
Leave
this
board
a
lot
of
latitude
is
fun.
Sometimes
we
bring
you
a
budget
and
there's,
maybe
a
hundred
thousand
two
hundred
thousand
to
consider,
because
we've
already
slide
some
things
in
so
we
wanted
to
give
some
the
maximum
ability
to
yours
to
look
over
those
things
in
your
consideration.
E
In
your
consideration
of
all
the
other
things
we
talked
about,
some
departments
are
very
passionate
that
they
need
these.
These
things
they
like
them
this
year.
Maybe
we
think
about
sliding
them
in
in
penny's
monies
for
next
year,
but
those
are
things
you
may
hear
about
when
you
depart
to
department
heads.
E
I
know
one
of
the
things
in
past
years.
You've
asked:
what
are
what
did
you
get
cut
out
of
the
budget?
That
you
really
think
you
need?
Those
are
some
of
the
things
they'll
bring
you
not
all
of
them.
Obviously,
some
of
them
they
probably
put
in
knowing
they
were
going
to
get
cut
and
their
ways
away,
but
there's
some
of
them
in
there
they're
important
and
so
those
those
are
considerations
too.
When
we
ask
of
you,
know,
vehicles
or
whatever
they
put
in.
E
C
I
think
I'm
getting
a
good
general
idea
on
probably
have
more
firmer
questions
on
some
of
the
capital
improvement
projects
where
we're
getting
into,
and
you
know,
balancing
them
against
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
citizens
is
priorities.
I
don't
always
jive
with
some
of
this
stuff.
I
need
more
time
to
go
through
this
in
detail.
That's
fine!
C
G
Yeah
thanks
mary
just
for
the
rest
of
the
board.
This
is
a
significant
amount
of
information,
so
obviously
talk.
I
would
recommend
talking
to
mark
multiple
times
and
talking
to
different
staff
members
multiple
times,
because
there's
is
a
lot
to
take
in.
This
is
a
lot
of
information
I
mean
being
on
here
almost
this
is
my
sixth
time.
G
It's
still
a
lot
of
information,
but
I
understand
a
lot
of
different
things
that
are
going
on
so
ask
as
many
questions
as
you
can
question
mark
on
it
question
staff
on
it
with
mark's
permission
to
speak
with
them,
of
course,
so
one
thing
real,
quick
mark.
I
want
a
couple
questions
for
you.
When
you
have
potential
property
purchases,
can
that
be
done
by
penny
fund
for
properties?
Yeah?
Yes,
it
can.
G
Okay,
one
of
the
things
that
the
mark
and
ron
has
done
pretty
creative
with
is
looking
at
inter-company
loan
or
inner
fund
loans
and
that's
an
op,
an
opportunity
to
borrow
money
from
other
funds
that
have
more
money
set
aside
for
capital
projects
in
the
future.
So,
ultimately,
you
could
maybe
buy
something
and
you
use
that
loan
and
you
transfer
it
and
you
pay
it
off
the
next
year.
So
it
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
use
some
other
flexibility
with
some
funds
too.
G
So
that
could
be
something
where
we
could
look
at
some
of
these
property
purchases.
So
it's
not
just
all
penny
this
year,
so
you
could
use
partial
penny
this
year
and
partial
penny
next
year
and
have
that
pay
back
to
the
other
fund.
So
there's
definitely
some
creative
things
to
do
across
this
across
this
budget
year.
G
I
mentioned
already
there
I
do
believe,
there's
some
importance.
We
have
struggled
as
a
city
with
public
works
as
some
of
the
beautification
aspects
or
just
keeping
up
the
facade
of
the
city.
When
I
say
facade,
it's
not
the
city
hall
facade
but
like
our
sidewalks
that
need
to
be
pressure
washed,
different
things
along
those
lines
that
mark
talked
about
in
some
of
the
neighborhoods.
G
G
The
arpa
funds
I
do
want
to
put
a
heavier
emphasis
on
the
additional
portable
water
lines.
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
that
there's
a
million
dollars
already
in
the
capital
budget,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
push
those
as
well
too,
and
also
when
we
talked
about
the
cyber
security
for
water,
sewer
and
storm
water
infrastructure.
G
G
I
do
believe
the
hospital
is
an
important
one
to
address,
though
as
well,
but
there's
plenty
of
things
on
here.
The
parking
garage
in
downtown
wasn't
really
discussed
within
the
cra
or
the
penny
fund
and
parking,
and
the
sponge
docks
also
is
another
area.
We
could
look
a
bit
further
into,
but
I
do
think
that's
an
important
thing.
We
need
to
look
at
from
the
penny
fund
the
cra
looking
out
into
the
future.
G
It
may
not
be
building
it
and
breaking
ground
in
2023,
but
setting
funds
aside
is
an
important
thing,
because
we
need
to
plan
for
the
future
and
what
that
looks
like.
We
don't
want
to
be
caught
with
a
3
million
parking
garage
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
fund
it,
and
then
you
have
another
three
five
years
of
trying
to
fund
it.
So
it
is
important
that
something
has
been
discussed
for
six
seven
eight
years
now,
but
we
really
haven't
gained
the
steam
that
we
need
to
for
that
funding
aspect.
G
A
couple
other
items
here
we
talked
about
the
project
and
grant
that
mark
brought
up
too
again
I
mean
I'm
for
a
reduction
in
the
millage
rate,
but
I
do
see
and
understand
the
the
need
to
pull
back,
I'm
sorry
to
increase
some
of
our
staff
in
some
of
our
areas,
because
obviously,
there's
been
complaints
for
many
years
now
about
not
having
enough
staff
to
do
certain
projects.
G
So
I
understand
that,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
good
balance
to
try
to
figure
out
a
millage
rate
and
also
be
able
to
add
staff
to
the
to
the
city
and
with
that,
I'm
looking
forward
to
meeting
with
you
more
mark
to
discuss
further
about
it
and
staff
and
and
ron
as
well
too.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
was
just
curious
if
there
was
any
outstanding
projects
that
we
have,
that
have
either
been
cost
overruns
or
have
been
not
finished
that
we
have
to
look
at
that.
You
might
not
have
in
here
from
existing.
E
Right
now,
I
believe
we
have
both
most
of
those
funded
in
here.
That's
why
you
only
see
at
the
end
of
the
penny,
like
about
four,
where
ron
says
he
likes
250
000
and
we
have
like
14
000.
now,
obviously
we're
not
going
to
spend
all
those
that
year,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
at
the
bottom.
We've
incorporated
some
of
that
into
there.
E
D
Well,
I
ask
that
because
of
course
we
can
be
very
happy
spending
this,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
conservative
enough
to
have
everything
covered-
that's
already
existing
out
there,
because
you
always
get
a
a
curveball
thrown
at
you.
This
also
covers
like
existing
projects
like
the
bridge
and
things
like
that,
or
that
has
to
come
about
no.
D
So,
okay,
I
have
an
idea
now
just
to
give
me
an
idea,
because
I've
not
done
this
before,
are
we
supposed
to
be
putting
arbitrary
figures
in
along
this
or
is
that
coming
at
a
different
date?
What
should
we
be
doing
from
here
on.
E
It
just
gives
you
an
idea
and
something
we
haven't
given
the
board
for
here's,
the
money,
that's
available
and
stuff
for
you
to
kind
of
look
at
just
mainly
to
make
notes.
So
when
you
come
together
and
have
to
make
collective
decisions,
everybody's,
however,
they
want
to
do
their
people,
do
budgeting
a
lot
different
or
deciding
things.
So
it
would
just
be
to
have
in
your
mind
the
important
things
where
you
think
they
should
be
funded.
Then
we
all
come
together
and
actually
decide
where
to
put
them.
E
You
just
have
a
little
basis
to
do
with
it.
Again,
you
can
make
your
own
cheat
sheet.
I
just
made
the
cheat
sheet
I'm
going
to
use,
but
to
show
you
about
how
with
funds
and
stuff
and
how,
when
you
give
me
projects
as
a
board,
you
know
you
give
me
five
projects
and
where
to
fund
them,
then
I
put
them
in
here
where
they
belong
subtracted
and
now
the
board
has
this
much
money
in
the
budget
to
do
with
so
so.
D
Let
me
let
me
ask
it
this
way.
Okay,
so
one
commissioner,
has
a
twelve
thousand
dollar
project
or
ten
thousand
dollar
project.
None
of
the
other
commissioners
wanna
get
involved
in
that.
How
is
that
distributed?
Do
we
take
a
vote
on
it?
That's
this
is
the
question
I'm
asking.
If
somebody
has
two
thousand
I'm
just
throwing
numbers
out
here,
two
thousand
dollars
is
put
in
by
me
and
three
thousand
by
vice
mayor
and
two
thousand
by
that
person.
Do
we
average
it
out?
E
Done
in
the
past
I
say
the
one
sheet
I
don't
have:
is
the
sheet
of
commission
initiated
your
ideas?
I
don't
have
that
yet,
because
I
haven't
talked
to
any
about
that.
I
imagine
you
would
come
at
them
and
then
collectively
you
would
decide
if
you're
going
to
vote
majority
rule
of
doom.
If,
because
they'll
be
they'll,
be
hopefully
additional
monies
that'll
come
forward
in
the
budget
process.
Besides
these
say,
you
collectively
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
projects
between
you.
E
D
C
C
B
Don't
have
many
questions
as
I
am
soaking
all
this
in
and
I
will
have
questions
and
emails
for
mark.
I
would
just
have
this
board
to
please
consider
maybe
opening
up
one
more
position
for
the
tarpon
housing
authority
to
help
give
them
some
help
with
maybe
some
grant
writing
or
helping
them
with
their
issues
that
they
have
so.
E
That
would
be
yeah,
I've
got
them.
That
would
be
when
I
start.
I
didn't
start
the
list
of
of
commission
generated
projects
list,
but
I've
got
his.
That
was
one
thing
yet
to
help
us
fund
the
position
for
them.
That
would
be
they're,
not
obviously
our
employees,
but
it
would
be
almost
like
we
did
for
the
depot
we
we
do.
We
do
an
allotment
of
money
that
we
would
do
towards
them
to
go
towards
that
similar.
We
do
it
to
the
depot
now
for
an
employee
at
the
depot,
so
it'd
be
a
similar
situation.
E
D
E
D
E
Allotment
of
you
know,
whatever
we
dedicate
20
000
towards
them
for
a
position
for
public.
It
may
be
something
you
use
under
the
need
for
affordable
housing
and
public
housing,
where
you
use
the
money
to
set
aside
for
them
to
help
get
grants
for
properties
but
home
buying.
Whatever
we
need
for.
As
you
know,
one
of
the
major
problems
we
have
in
this
town
is
is
the
affordability
of
housing.
So
that
may
be
a
position.
You
would
allocate
money
for.
C
Somewhere
in
here,
I
saw
that
we
had
allocated
three
hundred
dollars
in
a
three
hundred
thousand
in
the
budget
for
sidewalk
improvements
and
that
the
typical
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
sidewalk
fund.
How
did
that
happen?
I
want
to
tell.
E
G
E
So
so,
there's
the
fun
that
we
had
that
we
we
had
to
keep.
We
had
to
keep
a
maximum
on,
we
had
to
keep
two
million
in
it
or
something,
and
we
did.
E
E
And
then
we
get
the
match
from
that
sidewalk
fund.
It
used
to
be
you
kept
2
million
there,
no
matter
what,
but
under
the
charter,
the
last
charter
time
they
allowed
us
to
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
to
match
what
we
budgeted
they
would
match.
We
budgeted
50
they'd
match
50..
We
we've
we've
consistently
done
100.,
so
that's
another
to
the
other
100
in
there
might
be
another
project
or
something
trying
to
remember
where
the
other,
but
we'll
have
that
for
you.
For
the
nineteen.
C
C
We
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
to
make
sure
that
that,
as
well
as
putting
some
priority,
I'm
assuming
storm
water
in
here
is
referring
to
storm
water.
Is
it
referring
to
flooding,
because
nowhere
in
here
am
I
seeing
flooding
being
addressed.
I
see
storm
water.
G
G
A
C
A
So
we
we've
got
the
existed
funding
projects,
for
example
the
north
pinellas
avenue.
I
didn't
think
that
was
quite
funded
yet
because
we
didn't
know
what
we
wanted
or
right.
So
we
that's
a
high
priority
right.
Okay,.
A
E
G
A
Yeah
there's,
but.
E
A
It
might
be
worth
having
the
staff
go
through
those
and.
A
Also
in
terms
of
getting
to
commissioner
zeissner's
comment
about
how
to
approach
this,
if
you
see
something
that
is
of
interest
to
you,
that
you
don't
see
in
the
in
the
budget
anywhere
anything
anything
that
you
see
in
front
of
you,
I
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
discuss
that
with
the
city
manager.
First
before
you
start
putting
numbers
by
it,
and
everything
like
that,
just
he
may
have
some
history
on
it
that
yeah
we,
you
know
this
is
something
that's
being
done
here
or
there.
A
We've
got
plans
to
do
this,
that
that's
all
so
the
other
part
of
this
is,
I
tried
to
get.
We've
got
these
priorities
that
are
emerging
out
of
our
strategic
plan.
That's
what
its
purpose
is,
so
I
I
would
like
for
us
to
keep
those
in
mind
as
we
as
we
develop
this
project
and
also
there's
when
the
city
manager
talked
about
programming.
I
think
we've
got
we're
like
in
the
arpa
projects
alone.
A
I
think
we're
16
million
dollars
short,
but
those
are
still
things
that
need
to
be
done
and
they
could
be
programmed
into
the
out
years.
That's
that's
what
I've
been
trying
to
do
so
that,
for
example,
I'm
going
to
use
chief
young,
as
is
a
kind
of
an
example,
if
he's
got
something
that
he
wants
something
major,
that's
going
to
be
three
million
dollars
that
he
sees
emerging,
that
he
can
put
that
in
and
it's
okay.
We've
got
all
these
other
priorities.
A
Let's
plan
on
doing
that
in
in
2028,
or
something
like
that,
so
you
just
put
an
expectation
date
of
2028
and
then
you
just
kind
of
move
towards
that
target,
while
you're
trying
to
knock
out
these
other
60
million
dollars.
You
include
that
so
that's
that's
how
I
envision!
That's
the
one
thing
we
don't
have.
We
didn't
have
priorities
and
we
didn't
have
programming
the
priorities.
A
I
hope
will
shuffle
out
to
what
gets
done
first
and
then
the
things
that
aren't
getting
done
first,
certainly
they're
important
enough
not
to
forget
so,
let's
assign
a
date.
The
one
thing
that
I
think
is
important
is
the
new
fire
station.
For
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
is
the
vulnerability
of
the
old
one.
A
We
keep
kicking
that
can
down
the
the
path
and
kind
of
like
the
city
clerk's
office,
that
one's
gotten
a
little
expensive,
and
this
thing
is
every
year
it's
getting
more
and
expensive,
the
firehouse,
the
new
fire
station
out
on
gulf
road.
So
at
some
point
we've
got
to
make
a
decision
on
that
and
just
start
on
it
or
I'm
not
it's
I'm
not
advertising
for
it
in
a
sense,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
project
and
certainly
the
longer
we
delay
on
some
of
these
things,
the
more
expensive
they're
going
to
get.
A
That's
all
the
other
thing
too.
I
think
same
angela,
coors
mentioned
some
of
these
things
may
be
a
higher
priority,
but
they're
they
also
may
be
very
conducive
to
obtaining
a
grant.
A
A
And
don't
ask
me
what
that
break-even
point
is
I
don't
know,
but
it's
a
complicated
sort
of
process
that
we
need
to
kind
of
go
through
and
there's
a
lot
and-
and
I
think
a
little
bit
same
angel
of
course
is
going
to
kind
of
get
it
to
the
point
of
how
do
we
approach
this
for
this
commission
as
compared
to
the
way
the
other
commission
did,
and
I
think
a
decision
has
got
to
be
made
tonight
on
that.
So.
A
A
I
do
know
that
there's,
for
example,
the
pickleball
bocce
shuffleboard
courts,
they're
important
we've
got
some
deficiencies
in
the
comp
plan.
I
know
that
the
city
manager's
got
a
kind
of
a
location
that
seems
to
have
been
the
assumed
location,
but
there's
some
other
aspects
from
the
location
that
if
we
get
to
that
point,
talk
about
these
I'll
I'll
talk
about
it
at
that
time.
A
So
it's
another
variable
in
all
of
this
is:
if
we
want
to
build
something
and
we've
got
an
idea
of
where
it
ought
to
be
built,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
the
location
of
where
we
want
to
build
it.
Not
just
it's
assumed
that
that's
we're
going
to
build
it,
so
we
can
get
that
into
that
a
little
later
on.
But
for
me
this,
is
it
it's
a
lot
of
work,
but
it's
exciting.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
you
had
anything
planned
for
the
department
heads
of
whether
they.
A
A
E
C
H
Yes,
operationally,
this
data
system
is
in
very
good
shape.
You
know,
obviously,
as
there
are
some
components
that
are
coming
up
for
end
of
life
replacements
and
things
like
that.
What
this
is
really
about
is
obviously
we're
all
aware
of
what
happened
with
oldsmar
last
year
they
had
a
cyber
security
intrusion
in
their
water
facility
and
after
that
we
request
or
I'm
sorry,
a
little
tall.
E
H
I'll
have
to
double
check
with
suzanne.
On
that
we're
very
you
know.
Suzanne
rit,
director
is
can
be
a
little
bit
tight
with
that,
but
we
can
we'll
find
a
way
to
make
that
available
for
y'all
to
review,
but
because
it's
you
know
about
our
critical
infrastructure.
Obviously
we
have
to
be
secure
with
that
document.
Okay,.
A
That
was
all
I
have
paul
you're
standing
there
did.
You
want
to
say.
H
A
E
And
again
get
with
me
in
the
next
two
weeks,
so
we
can
well
we're
going
to
talk
about.
The
next
item
is
preparing
for
what
we're
going
to
what
our
setup
is
going
to
be
19th
or
so
so
I
think
I
think
it's
now
that
got
into
again.
I've
seen
been
through
many
different
commissions
in
many
different
ways.
They
want
to
do
the
budget
workshops,
so
the
idea
to
get
from
you
is
what
procedures,
how
you
want
to
operate
it
one
suggestion
of
more
conducive
a
lot
of
times
to
do
these.
E
We
use
the
second
floor
conference
room.
Obviously
we
did
this
one
in
here,
so
we're
gonna
need
to
talk
about
location
structure,
how
we
to
structure
the
meetings.
Obviously
we
usually
have
when
we've
done
the
past
two
years
and
we've
gone
to
the
second
or
third
meeting
many
years.
We
did
it
in
one
night.
E
Obviously,
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
here,
so
it's
probably
not
gonna
be
one
night,
but
how
you
want
to
set
it
up,
set
up
the
appearances
of
department
heads
if
you
want
to
go
over
the
main
items
in
one
meeting,
so
I
think
we
just
need
the
round
table
with
the
mayor
and
mayor
and
come
up
with
a
you
know.
What
are
we
looking
at
as
far
as
setting
and
and
what
the
agenda
is
going
to
be
of
how
we
go
if
we're
going
to
go
department
by
apartment?
E
Are
we
going
to
go
by
the
departments
that
commissioners
have
questions
on
and
divide
them
up
over
two
nights,
so
just
mainly
around
is
what
the
expectations
this
board
and
what
they
want
me
and
the
department
has
to
bring
you
as
you
go
through
these
workshops
to
get
the
information
you
need
to
formulate
and
finalize
in
the
next
couple
months.
This
budget.
A
A
There
may
be
some
other
things
that,
as
as
as
y'all
mentioned
earlier,
that
are
not
being
seen
in
that
department
and
that
would
be
fair
game
to
ask
that
as
well.
But
you
know,
I
would
ask
the
city
manager
that
ahead
of
time
and
maybe
prepare
the
department
head
for
that
meeting,
so
we
can
just
get
that
out
of
the
way.
So
let
me
go
to
questions
about
that
process.
I'll
go
down
the
line
vice
mayor
lund.
A
C
C
I'm
you
know
I,
I
will
probably
go
through
it
line
by
line,
but
I
probably
won't
address
more
than
a
handful
of
some
things
on
a
line-by-line
basis,
which.
A
So
anyway,
so
I
think
maybe
you'll
become
prepared
to
speak
specific
items
that
you
see
might
exactly.
C
D
Eisner,
my
question
is:
how
does
the
budget
advisory
tie
in?
Don't
they
go
through
line
by
line
and
give
us
the
recommendations
that
they
give
us?
D
Yes,
okay,
I
mean
so
I
I
just
don't
see
the
need
to
go
on
a
line
by
line
item.
You
know
per
se.
It's
it's
just
it's!
It's
labor
intensive!
It's
micromanaging
right!
It's
it's!
Just
it's
all
things
that
can
only
cause
those
problems,
especially
because
then
you
have
to
delve
into
every
single
question
on
on
what
they're
doing
with
their
pencil
sharpener.
I
mean
it's
ridiculous.
D
So
now
I'll
look
at
it
on
my
own
time
and
I
prefer
to
deal
with
it
as
a
as
a
whole,
but
I'm
just
curious
how?
When
do
we
get
the
budget
advisory
recommendation?
When
does
that
tie
in?
D
A
They
recommend-
maybe
maybe
ron
you've,
already
gone
through
that
process.
E
Beginning-
and
they
are
in
the
process
of
voting
last
time
to
have
a
recommendation-
usually
usually
they're,
brought
up
in
one
of
the
budget
at
one
of
the
budget
workshops,
they
come
usually
the
first
one.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
last
year,
the
first
budget
workshop
when
you
were
housed,
but
again
it's
it's
the
different.
It's
different
boards
have
been
a
different
way.
They've
done
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
at
the
end,
to
ask
for
the
recommendation
they've
already
composed
some
that
they
had
from
the
last
meeting.
G
C
Good
evening,
just
to
give
you
a
quick
overview-
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
mayor,
because
I
look
at
there's
a
lot
of
decisions
that
you
have
to
make
at
a
higher
level,
but
I
want
you
to
rest
assured
that
in
the
we
spent
three
two
hour
sessions
getting
down
into
that
nitty
gritty
dirty
detail
line
by
line
mark
was
there
and
ron
and
ron
was
also
there,
and
we
did
fire
out
all
the
questions
on
the
line.
C
The
board
has
a
lot
of
higher
level
decisions
to
make
coming
up
with,
and
this
is
kind
of
good
decisions.
We
have
money.
What
do
we
do
with
it
now?
So?
I'd
like
you
to
kind
of
rest
assured
that
all
all
departments
came
in
presented
it
and
anything
that
was
jumping
out
you
know
has
been.
We've
questioned
it.
So
I
just
with
all
the
decisions
that
you
have
to
make
the
important
ones
so.
A
You're,
that's
what
I
was
getting
at
that
process
has
been
completed.
Is
that
right
with
the
entire
product
entire
budget.
C
To
add
one
thing:
the
budget
advisory
committee
put
together
two
or
three
and
it's
being
typed
up
as
we
speak
right
now,
recommendations
at
a
fairly
high
level
for
the
board
to
consider
just
consider.
F
C
A
Probably
more
just
a
question
of
the
process,
the
way
the
process,
the
way
it
worked
in
the
meetings
that
you're
describing
the
staff
and
you
had
a
dialogue
going
back
and
forth
and
then
at
some
it
was
decided
on
which
way
to
go
at
that
particular
moment
correct,
and
so
that
should
be
reflected
in
the
budget.
A
C
Stuff,
okay
and
there's
so
much
to
do
right
now,
so
I
think
your
time.
Okay,
that's.
D
Well,
I'm
glad
he's
bringing
this
up
very
much.
I
I
just
don't
want
to
do
double
work.
If
I
would
like
to
see
what
they're
recommending
and
then
we
decide
on
what
the
discretionary
money
is
and
not
going
line
by
line-
and
this
could
be
a-
I
don't
want
to
say
the
evil
word-
this
could
be
a
smooth
process
just
as
well
as
make
it
very,
very
tough
on
us.
So
I'd
like
to
take
the
easier
route,
and
as
long
I
mean
I
watched
their
budget,
you
know
meetings.
D
I
didn't
really
see
anything
that
came
up.
That
was
an
alarm,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
redo
the
chess
game.
They
did
that.
So
that's
my
take.
C
F
You,
mr
clearly,
could
I
interject
something
that
might
help.
I
know
I
think
budget
advisory
liked
it.
We
put
together
a
sheet
that
showed
each
department,
how
much
it
increased
and
the
percentage,
and
we
had
a
brief
explanations
next
to
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
might
help
just
for
each
department.
With
a
brief
explanation,.
F
C
A
Okay,
that's
all
I
had
as
far
as
the
the
process,
I
think
we're
going
to
take
a
higher
level.
Take
the
important,
not
the
important,
but
the
the
most
numerous
things
first
and
then
that'll
help
you
set
it
up
for
the
next
meeting,
the
location
you
wanted
to
talk
about
that.
A
second
the
location
is.
A
Well,
in
terms
of
I
mean
this
is
great,
but
in
terms
of
having
some
kind
of
a
dialogue
among
the
commissioners
and
things
that
might
be
better
up
in
the
the
corner
room
up
at
the
at
the
what's,
it
called
the
conference
room
up
there
in
the
corner.
This
would
be
okay.
I
don't
have
an
issue
if,
if
you're
comfortable
with
this.
F
A
A
All
right
all
right,
so
we've
got
the
the
approach
and
the
location.
Is
there
anything
else?
As
far
as
that?
Last
no.
E
A
There
may
be
some
things
that
are
evolving,
that
it
would
be
good
for
you
just
to
give
the
city
manager
a
call
ahead
of
time
before
the
july
18th
meetings.
As
far
as
some
of
the
things
here
in
this
budget,
he
and
I
talk
about
a
couple
of
things,
but
it's
probably
better
for
you
to
I'm
not
sure
how
to
describe
it.
Personnel
things
are
good
for
me
are
going
to
be
my
focus
this
month.
A
Just
so,
you
know
is
going
to
be
retention,
police
fire,
we've
got
some
still
some
challenges
and
hiring
people
and
and
the
hiring
process
is
taking
a
lot
longer
than
than
we've
experienced
in
the
past
and
a
lot
more
challenging
to
get
qualified
people,
and
you
know
ultimately,
if
the
quality
of
services
are
gonna
is
gonna
be
affected
as
well.
A
So
just
just
keep
that
in
mind
when
we
go
forward
and
then
the
other
thing
too
is
at
some
point
from
a
policy
perspective,
things
go
up
and
they
go
down
without
city
manager.
We
didn't
use
any
consultants
at
all.
Those
consultants
was
a
dirty
name.
Now
we
use
consultants.
Life
has
gotten
more
complicated.
A
More
details
more
competitive,
and
so
we
have
to
use
specialized
con
consultants,
and
so
when
you
see
some
of
these
things
that
are
coming
forward,
our
staff
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
their
their
journeyman,
but
they're,
not
specialists
they're
good
at
what
they
do,
but
they're,
not
specialists.
So
we
may
need
some
help
and
I
would
hope
the
staff
is
not
shy
about
asking
for
that
help
if
they
need
it,
so
that
that's
all
I
was
getting
at
with
the
talking
to
the
city
manager
about
it.
Thank
you.