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A
A
That
is
a
real
problem
waiting
to
happen,
and
you
ought
to
see
it
I
mean
that
all
of
that
property
was
zoned
for
one
house
for
every
two
acres,
one
house
for
every
two
acres,
another.
A
I
will
but
the
main
point
I'm
making
here
is
about
the
hurricane
preparedness
and
for
the
technical,
Review
Committee
and
the
fire
department's
input
on
that.
Whenever
there's
a
proposal,
where
there's
only
going
to
be
one
way
in
and
out
of
a
development,
to
consider
what
happened
with
those
mobile
homes
and
use
that
information
that
you
just
learned
to
prevent
developments
to
take
place
when
there's
going
to
be
bigger
storms-
and
we
dodged
a
bullet
on
this
one-
I
mean
we
absolutely
it
just
grazed
us.
A
You
know
the
74
Acres
on
the
Anclote
River.
How
are
you
going
to
get
all
those
people
out
of
there
if
those
404
Apartments
had
been
built?
Are
you
going
to
get
a
thousand
cars
out
of
there
on
US-19
hell?
The
last
meeting
two
weeks
ago
there
was
an
accident
on
us
19.,
the
traffic
was
diverted
to
Alt
19..
A
So
I'm
talking
about
evacuation
during
a
hurricane
so
that
these
are
things
that
need
to
be
considered
and
I'll
have
more
to
say
afterwards.
B
Mr
jumper
there,
any
remote
access
comments.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
I'm,
going
to
thank
you
very
much
chief
or
before
we
go
to
public
comments.
I
want
to
take
care
of
a
little
bit
of
an
administrative
matter,
I'd
like
to
introduce
everybody
to
Ms
Regina
Kardash
she's,
one
of
our
two
City
attorneys
Mr
Salzman,
used
to
see
him
up
here.
He
was
our
litigation
attorney.
B
B
Anthony
I
do
appreciate
it
here
with
everybody.
Also
I
think
that
last
couple
of
meetings
were
brought
up,
I've
gotten
Communications
for
at
least
four
people,
basically
putting
some
of
the
what
they
felt
was
inappropriate
discussions
and
and
dialogue
at
my
feet
and
basically
saying
that
I
should
be
using
this
more
and
that's
something.
I've
had
conversation
with
Mrs
Kardash
about
concerning
that
matter.
So
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
little
bit
more
of
a
formal
approach
to
Robert
rules.
E
Mikey
scoot
is
623,
East
Harvard,
Avenue
I
could
tell
you
it
Miss,
cardash
I
said
on
a
planning
and
zoning,
and
you
are
a
gem
and
and
I
hope.
This
commission
appreciates
the
gym
that
you
have
sitting
there
so
kudos
to
you
and
and
and
and
Mr
Mayor.
You
may
have
to
buy
yourself
a
a
bigger
gavel,
I
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
here
tonight.
E
You
know
and
and
I
don't
want
anybody
to
take
this
personally.
But
you
know
on
Tuesday
nights
and
and
tonight's
my
daughter's
birthday
and
I
decided
I
came
here.
I've
got
to
go
meet
them
for
dinner
because
you
know
this
has
been
eating
at
me.
It's
important
for
me
to
say
I,
don't
necessarily
come
to
commission
meetings,
but
I
do
get
the
opportunity
to
to
watch
them
on
TV
later
and
and
when
I
was
been
watching
these
commission
meetings.
E
Quite
honestly,
it's
like
watching
a
soap
opera
and
that's
just
not
coming
from
me.
It's
coming
from
a
lot
of
people
in
this
community
who
talk
with
me,
one
thing
I
remember
and
when
Ronald
Reagan
was
elected
president,
he
always
wore
a
suit
into
the
Oval
Office
when
they
asked
him
why
he
said
it
was
for
the
respect
of
the
office
and
that
he
was
there
to
do
the
business
of
the
American
people.
E
You
were
elected
to
do
the
business
of
the
city
and
not
to
use
your
elected
office
as
a
personal
attack
platform.
Sometimes
it
seems
that
you
lose
sight
of
the
city's
business,
so
you
could
attack
each
other.
Do
that
on
your
own
time
and
not
on
the
city's
time.
You
need
to
raise
the
bar
I
know.
This
is
not
the
White
House,
nor
is
it
the
Oval
Office.
F
F
Again,
as
stated
in
Federalist
Paper
number
one,
the
fire
in
the
Hawaiian
Islands
of
Maui
killed
over
a
hundred
people
with
another
800
people
presumed
to
be
incinerated
by
the
fire,
making
the
death
toll
of
almost
a
thousand
people
that
were
burned
alive.
The
governor
of
Hawaii
blamed
such
fire
on
climate
change.
F
Change
oddly
I
feel
that
the
climate
change
he
is
referring
to
as
a
political
climate
that
is
changing
and
that
the
fire
was
a
tactic
of
warfare
levied
against
the
unsuspecting
indigenous
population
of
Hawaii
levied
by
an
arbitrary
undistinguished
government
playing
both
sides
of
a
constitutional
coin.
Thank
you.
A
A
We
got
tipped
off,
they
were
ripping
out
trees
and
other
vegetation
over
there
with
heavy
machinery,
Crews
of
people
running
around
tearing
up
the
land,
and
we
contacted
all
the
agencies
involved
and
they
did
not
have
their
fish
and
wildlife
permit
according
to
FWC.
At
that
time,
so
I'd
like
to
ask
if
there
was
any
follow-up
on
that
with
the
city.
Did
anybody
find
out?
Did
they
in
fact
ever
get
their
permits?
Did
they
have
the
right
to
do
what
they
were
doing
since
then?
A
The
Machinery
is
just
been
sitting
there
idle
so,
but
they've
already
torn
out
things
that
it
appears
they
did
not
have
the
right
to
do
and
again,
as
I
said,
it
was
originally
one
home
for
every
two
acres
of
land
that
was
supposed
to
be
in
the
overlay
of
that
entire
region.
That
was
state
county
combined.
That
decided
that
should
be
agricultural,
but
the
previous
commission
here
went
ahead
and
let
them
put
in
88
homes,
that's
less
than
a
home
for
every
like
quarter
acre
or
something
now.
A
If
they
had
done
it
the
right
way,
slowly
over
time,
developing
a
two-acre
lot
and
putting
a
home
in
there
over
time,
the
natural
wildlife
of
that
region
would
have
had
a
chance
to
survive.
They
would
have
acclimated,
but
no,
even
on
my
way
over
there
that
afternoon,
I
saw
dead
animals
on
the
road
fleeing
the
destruction.
A
A
It
was
horrible
and
they
were
doing
it
illegally.
I
contacted
the
city
and
I,
don't
know
what
you
can
do
about
it,
but
I
suspect,
there's
something
that
can
be
done.
There
must
be
a
procedure
that
the
city
can
put
into
place
to
make
sure
these
people
follow
the
rules.
A
A
A
To
prevent
further
death
and
destruction
I
mean
that
land
should
have
never
been
annexed,
so
it
was
a
legally
annexed
and
an
illegally
granted
a
development
arm,
and
then
they
went
in
and
decided
since
they
were
getting
away
with
breaking
all
those
laws.
They'd
just
go
in
and
wreck
the
place
without
having
any
permits
that
they
needed.
A
A
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Commissioner
coulianos
mentioned
something
about
Mark
getting
credit
I.
Think
we
asked
to
look
at
the
history
of
the
Emergency
Management
Center
I,
believe
it
was
Miss
pasovich,
who
first
put
it
in,
but
Mark
took
it
to
another
level.
People
need
to
know
that
this
Emergency
Center
has
been
an
example
for
many
that
have
followed
behind
us.
G
C
H
Honorable
Commissioners,
this
is
Mark
Washburn
I'm,
the
president
of
safe
Tarpon,
springs.org,
a
501c
for
the
social
welfare
organization
and
I
live
at
124,
East
Lake
Drive
in
Tarpon
34688.
So
let
me
firstly
that
with
this
current
commission
that
you
guys
are
fantastic
in
most
ways.
Some
of
the
infighting
is
weird.
But
okay,
you
guys
really
are
a
breath
of
fresh
air
compared
to
the
last
group
and
our
organization
and
membership
really
appreciates
it.
The
decision
made
about
the
mcalpin
property,
it
was
huge
and
we
noticed
it.
H
It's
going
to
make
a
difference
to
avoid
conflicts
between,
of
course,
us
agriculturally
Zone
people
with
acreage
and
the
density
of
the
city.
But
moving
on
to
something
that
happened
before
this
commission
was
elected
last
week,
Pioneer
homes,
George,
stamis
and
door
suits
it's
something
awful
and
possibly
criminal.
They
started
land
clearing
on
the
second
largest
all-natural
property
left
in
North
Pinellas.
H
It's
45
Acres,
located
between
East
Lake,
Drive,
North,
Highland,
Ave
and
George
Street
I
know
they've
been
in
business
since
at
least
1999,
and
probably
long
before
that
in
1999
they
hired
me
to
design
a
website
for
their
enclosed
Marina
and
by
the
way
they
never
paid
me
for
it
and
I
know
they
were
around,
at
least
at
that
point,
so
they
they
know
they
should
know
what
they're
doing.
For
some
reason,
they
ignored
the
requirement
for
having
a
current
gopher
tortoise
survey
and
did
not
have
any
permit
from
FWC
to
begin
land
clearing.
H
Luckily,
an
alert
resident
figured
this
out
quickly.
I
called
FWC
who
dispatched
three
deputies
and
since
ABC
Action
News
was
on
site
doing
a
story
about
it.
They
sent
their
informational
officer
as
well
to
be
interviewed.
H
Luckily,
on
construction
was
immediately
stopped
and
all
the
workers
quickly
jumped
into
their
vehicle
and
disappeared,
which
was
kind
of
strange,
except
for
the
foreman
and,
of
course
one
of
the
Georges
showed
up.
So
all
construction
stopped.
A
few
Acres
were
cleared.
Sadly,
I
don't
know
how
many
of
the
tortoises
were
killed
in
the
process,
but
current
status
FWC
won't
comment
at
the
moment
as
Pioneer
homes
is
under
criminal
investigation.
But
we
look
forward
to
a
sufficient
punishment,
especially
since
George
and
George
really
should
have
known
better.
B
H
Yes,
sir,
there
are,
there
were
waivers
that
were
granted
there's
one
way
in
particular
that
we
need
more
information
on.
Hopefully,
Mark
provide
us
with
information
offline,
and
the
key
is
this:
they
are
being
allowed
to
build
88
homes
on
44,
Acres,
44.5,
acres
and
they're,
using
the
ability
to
build
in-law
homes,
along
with
regular
homes,
on
each
property,
which
is.
I
H
J
We
have
anger,
1630,
Lonesome,
Pine,
Lane,
Tarpon
Springs,
dear
mayor
and
Board
of
Commissioners
and
city
manager.
I
wanted
to
be
with
you
in
person
this
evening
to
speak
during
public
comment,
but
unfortunately
have
another
meeting
at
that
time.
I.
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
As
this
is
read
aloud
on
July
20th
I
had
the
honor
of
being
invited
to
speak
and
share
the
work
of
Peace
for
Tarpon.
At
a
congressional
hearing
regarding
the
community
mental
Wellness
resilience
Act
of
2023.,
this
proposed
act
has
bipartisan
support.
J
There
were
1300
registrants
and
capacity
attendance,
five
communities
from
Across,
the
Nation
were
featured,
including
two
in
North
Carolina,
the
state
of
Virginia,
Walla,
Walla,
Washington
and,
of
course,
Tarpon
Springs
piece
for
Tarpon.
It
was
so
successful
that
a
follow-up
hearing
was
requested
once
again,
I'm
invited
to
share
the
community
work.
We
are
doing
here
in
Tarpon
Springs.
This
second
congressional
hearing
will
be
held
on
September
21st
from
12
to
1,
30.
I
hope
you
are
all
able
to
attend.
J
Community
initiatives
such
as
ours
are
increasingly
being
seen
as
having
great
potential
to
help
address
the
growing
need
for
Community
Mental
wellness
and
resilience.
Please
feel
free
to
register
and
share
the
link
with
interested
colleagues.
That's
the
flyer.
That's
sitting
on
your
desk
best
regards
Robin
Sanger,
fun
founding
director
piece
for
tarpon.
B
B
Okay,
let
me
run
through
the
consent
agenda
number
one:
special
events:
Tarpon
Springs
band
boosters
outdoor
Music,
Festival,
I'm,
going
to
be
back
to
school,
Eco
Fest
number,
two
renew
file:
number
20024,
Technology
Solutions
with
related
equipment;
accessories;
number
three
renew
new
file:
two
one:
zero:
zero,
nine,
zero
manhole
structures;
Rehabilitation
number
four
renew
file:
number
21020.
B
Motor
number
seven
award
file
number
two:
three
zero:
two
one
four
cure
in
place:
Pipeline
and
point
repair
services;
number
eight
award
file
number
two:
three
zero:
two
one:
five
Blue
Star
250
kilowatt,
trailer
mounted
generator
number
nine
award
file
number
two:
three
zero:
two
one:
eight
hydraulic
repair
parts
and
service
I
have
a
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
to
public
comments.
Are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
any
of
these
nine
items?.
C
K
J
B
Okay,
we've
got
three
minutes
before
the
resolutions
and
and
ordinances
that
we
have
to
begin
so
I'm
just
going
to
pause
here
for
a
couple
of
minutes.
B
B
B
Okay:
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
the
ordinances
of
resolutions.
Item
12
is
an
application
21170
and
it
actually
involves
three
ordinances
and
basically
their
do-overs
because
of
an
error
in
the
legal
description
of
the
previous
ordinances
that
were
approved
by
the
commission,
so
I'm
gonna.
This
is
also
a
quasi-judicial
process,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
the
the
way
we're
going
to
do.
This
is
to
key
off
the
first
ordinance,
which
would
be
the
annexation
2023112.
B
Listen
to
that
and
then
also
include
that
discussion
and
comments
and
public
comments
as
part
of
B
and
C
and
we'll
do
those
individually
after
we
finish
with
that.
First
ordinance,
2023-12
annexation,
so
Ms
Kardashian
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
to
read
ordinance
2023-1-2
annexation
by
title.
Only
please.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
Ordnance
2023-12,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
annexing
0.92,
Acres,
more
or
less
of
real
property
located
at
38652
U.S,
Highway,
19
North
on
the
northwest
corner
of
U.S
Highway
19
North
and
Klosterman
Road
application,
21-170,
repealing
ordinance,
2022-03,
providing
for
findings
and
providing
an
effective
date.
Okay,.
D
D
Quasi-Judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
the
commission's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
commission.
The
commission
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections.
D
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
application
meets
the
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
commission
is
required
by
law
to
Grant
the
applicant's
request.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
application
does
not
meet
the
code
criteria,
then
the
commission
is
required
to
deny
the
applicant's
request
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
D
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony
all
testimony
and
questioning
it.
This
hearing,
by
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
application
based
on
the
city's
code
of
ordinances.
At
this
time,
if
there
are
any
board
Commissioners
or
the
mayor
who
has
disclosures
such
as
ex
parte
Communications
are
conflicts
of
interest,
please
make
your
disclosures
now.
L
D
All
right
seeing
none
the
following
is
the
established
price
procedure
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
First
will
be
the
staff's
presentation
and
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
City
staff.
D
Then
the
applicant
will
have
the
opportunity
to
present
their
Witnesses
and
evidence,
and
the
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants.
Witnesses
then,
members
of
the
public,
opposing
or
in
support
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
provide
their
testimony
and
evidence,
and
then
the
applicant
and
the
city
may
present
any
rebuttal
testimony
for
consideration
at
this
time.
Anybody
who's
going
to
be
saying
anything
regarding
this
application.
Please
stand
and
be
sworn.
N
Thank
you
good
evening,
Renee
Vincent,
Planning
and
Zoning
director.
As
the
mayor
correctly
stated,
this
application
is
actually
a
set
of
re-hearings
Simply
to
correct
errors
and
legal
descriptions.
It
had
a
bit
of
a
cascading
effect
from
the
annexation
through
the
future
land
use
and
the
zoning
applications
on
this
property,
as
well
as
the
very
small
billboard
property
that
was
processed
at
the
same
time.
So
this
is
a
subject
site.
It's
the
car,
wash
it's
there.
It's
existing
it's
completed
at
Klosterman
and
us
19..
N
So
the
the
the
re-adoption
consist
of,
as
I
said,
is
the
annexation
of
the
0.92
Acres,
a
future
land
use
map
Amendment
from
the
Pinellas
County
designation
of
residential
office,
retail
to
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
commercial
General,
and
are
rezoning
from
Pinellas
County
designation
of
commercial
Parkway
to
the
City
Zoning
designation
of
Highway
business.
N
As
I
stated
back
in
October
of
last
year,
the
board
took
action
on
these
to
add
to
Annex
and
apply
the
land,
use
and
Zoning
on
this
property,
and
there
was
an
error
with
the
legal
descriptions.
So
this
process
simply
is
to
correct
that,
and
in
doing
so
it
will
also
allow
the
the
billboard
and
a
parcel
which
is
right
here
to
for
those
annexation,
land
use
and
zoning
ordinances
to
become
effective
as
well
so
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
jump
to
the
end
of
this.
N
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
did
review
this
on
August
21st
and
did
recommend
approval
of
all
three
of
the
ordinances
and
the
staff
recommendations.
Excuse
me:
I
needed
me
to
click.
That
forward
is
to
approve
ordinance,
2023
annexing
the
property
ordinance
2023
amending
the
future
land
use
map
and
ordinance
2023-11
amending
the
zoning
Atlas.
So
they'll
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
B
We
don't
have
an
applicant
here
this
evening.
We
do
not
have
affected
parties
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
our
let's
go
to
public
comments
and
see
if
any
of
the
public
have
any
comments
concerning
this
matter.
F
Yes,
thanks.
Thank
you
again.
David
Ballard
get
us
Junior,
Georgia,
Avenue,
Palm,
Harbor,
I
I.
Believe
I've
asked
this
question
before
regarding
water
usage
at
the
car
wash,
do
they
use
City
water?
Do
they
have
their
own
well
point
where
they
draw
their
own
water?
Do
they
use
a
mixture
of
reclaimed
water?
F
As
as
the
water
usage,
there
is
a
exorbitant
I
believe,
there's
concerns
regarding
water
use
and
and
where
they
get
it
from
and.
N
So
they
they
do
have
city
services
there.
Just
generally
speaking,
car
washes
they
are
required
through
their
permitting
to
recycle
their
water.
So
it's
not
reclaimed
water.
They
recycle
their
water,
a
multitude
of
times
and
filter
it
and
reuse
it,
so
it
dramatically
reduces
the
the
potable
water
use
on
the
property.
Okay,
thank.
C
B
As
Vincent,
would
you
like
to
make
a
closing
or
summation?
Yes.
B
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
do
I'm
going
to
ask
whether
any
of
the
Commissioners
have
any
comments
before
we
go
to
a
motion.
I'm
sorry
Quest
comments
before
we
go
to
a
motion
in
a
second
any.
O
Comments
yes
mayor.
Well,
the
the
Motions
include,
as
advised
by
staff,
the
repealing
of
the
other
ordinances
inside
them.
D
O
I
B
This
is
to
confirm
that
this
is
ordinance
2023-12
for
the
annexation.
There's
no
further
comments
from
the
commission
roll
call.
Please.
J
B
Yes,
yes,
okay,
let's
move
on
to
ordinance
Item
B
ordinance,
2023-10,
future
land
use
map
Amendment
Ms
cardash.
Can
you
read
that
by
ordinance.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
orange
2023-10,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
future
land
use
map
for
0.92,
Acres,
more
or
less
of
real
property
located
at
38652
U.S
Highway,
19
North
on
the
northwest
corner
of
U.S
Highway
19
North
and
Klosterman
Road
from
Pinellas
County
land
use,
designation,
RoR
residential
office
retail
to
City
of
Tarpon,
Springs
land
use,
designation,
CG,
commercial,
General
application,
number
21-170,
repealing
ordinance,
2022-04,
providing
for
findings
and
providing
an
effective
date.
This
is
first
reading.
D
The
second
reading
will
be
held
on
September
19th
2023
and
was
published
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
by
title,
with
a
map
on
August,
2nd
and
tomorrow.
September
6th
for
this
one
I
would
request
a
motion
of
the
commission
to
incorporate
the
presentation
of
staff
from
the
last
ordinance
so
that
your
planning
director
doesn't
have
to
go
through
it
for
both
this
one
and
the
next
one
and.
D
B
B
B
We're
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
now,
if
there's
no
commission
comments
concerning
this
ordinance,
then
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
2023-10,
the
future
land
use
of
map
Amendment
so
moved.
Second,
if
there's
no
further
comments,
roll
call
please,
commissioner,.
B
B
D
Thank
you,
man,
ordinance
2023-11,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
official
zoning
atlas
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
for
0.92
Acres,
more
or
less
of
real
property
located
at
38652
U.S,
Highway,
19
North
on
the
northwest
corner
of
U.S
Highway
19
North
and
Klosterman
Road
from
Pinellas
County
zoning
designation,
CP,
commercial
Parkway
to
City
of
Tarpon
Springs
zoning,
designation,
HB,
Highway
business
application,
number
21-170,
repealing
ordinance,
2022-05,
providing
for
findings
and
providing
an
effective
date.
This
is
first
reading.
D
B
B
B
Got
you
okay?
Second,
second,
commissioner
coulianos?
Okay,
if
there's
no
further
comments
from
the
commission,
roll
call,
please,
okay,.
J
O
O
O
B
Is
for
that
separate
ordinance,
separate
second
motion:
okay,
is
there
a
second
motion?
I'm,
sorry,
emotion
in
a
second
to
approve
ordinance,
two
zero,
two
three
dash
11
for
the
rezoning,
a.
K
B
J
O
B
Application
2374
it's
conditional
use
for
122
West,
Cedar
Street.
This
is
also
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
Ms
car
dash.
If
we
could
have
the
resolution
read
by
title,
the
instructions
for
the
quasi-judicial
proceeding
and
also
the
question
concerning
ex
parte
and
voting
conflicts
and
also
swearing
any
Witnesses
in.
D
Okay,
this
matter
pending
before
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Board
of
Commissioners,
is
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
commission's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
finding
as
a
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
commission.
D
The
commission
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
get
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
application
based
on
the
city's
code
of
ordinances.
D
B
Any
commissioner
have
anything
ex
parte
voting
conflict.
Okay,
I,
don't
have
any
ex
parte,
but
there
was
a
question
concerning
the
voting
conflict
of
interest.
I
am
considered
an
affected
Party
by
the
planning
department
rules.
I
had
a
conversation
with
Ms
Kardash.
Concerning
the
details
on
circumstances
of
that
and
under
our
state
statutes.
I
would
not
be
considered
to
have
a
voting
conflict
of
interest
and.
D
That's
correct
under
chapter
112
gesture
proximity
to
this
particular
parcel
does
not
in
and
of
itself
create
a
conflict.
You
don't
have
any
direct
financial
interest
in
this
application
based
on
our
discussion
and
review,
and
neither
do
you
have
any
business
interest
in
this
particular
application.
Therefore,
it
doesn't
constitute
a
legal
conflict
of
interest
that
would
preclude
you
from
voting
and
require
you
to
file
the
disclosure
and,
at
this
hearing,
are
you
still
able
to
make
a
fair,
an
impartial
decision
based
on
the
testimony
and
evidence
that
is
presented
this
evening?
D
Yes,
okay,
so
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
swear
in
any
Witnesses
who
are
going
to
speak
on
this
particular
matter?
Please
stand
if
you're
going
to
speak
on
this
and
raise
your
right
hand.
Do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
on
the
matters
before
the
city
Commission
on
this
application
here
this
evening?
Hey,
please,
make
sure
you
state
your
name
and
address
when
you
come
up
to
speak
and
indicate
that
you've
been
sworn.
N
Course,
thank
you
again.
This
is
application
23-74..
This
is
a
conditional
use
request
for
a
small,
infill
single-family
lot,
that
is
in
the
wd-1
zoning
District
at
122
West
Cedar
Street,
the
wd-1
zoning
district
is
primarily
a
working
Waterfront
type
of
designation,
but
when
it
was
established
back
in
the
many
years
ago
that
it
did
allow
for
conditional
uses,
one
of
the
conditional
uses
the
use
of
a
single
family
residence.
So
that's
what's
being
asked
for
here
today.
The
property
contains
a
little
over
3
500
square
feet.
So
it's
a
very
small
infill
lot.
N
N
This
is
the
location,
so
this
is
Athens
Street,
so
this
is
West
Cedar.
This
is
the
lot
primarily
residential
surrounding
the
area
and
just
a
little
bit
better
aerial
photograph
with
no
zoning
overlaid
on
top
of
it.
So
this
is
the
site.
Layout
importantly,
the
the
property
did
receive.
Variance
approvals
from
the
board
of
adjustments,
one
to
establish
it
as
a
non-conforming
lot
of
record,
basically
meaning
that
it's
an
original
planted
lot
of
record,
but
it
does
not
meet
today's
standards
in
terms
of
lots,
size,
width
or
area.
N
N
These
are
the
floor
plans
again.
This
is
a
little
different,
difficult
to
see,
but
you'll
have
a
staircase
entry,
your
garage
and
then
a
small
first
floor
living
area
and
then
in
the
near
kind
of
a
full
Second
Story
living
area.
So
these
are
the
proposed
elevations
again.
So
this
is
your
front
door
leading
into
your
stairs
going
to
the
second
floor.
Obviously,
your
garage.
N
Just
some
additional
elevations
I
think
the
the
applicant
may
wish
to
speak
more
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
additional
architectural
elements
that
they
are.
N
May
want
to
implement
through
the
building
process.
So,
as
we
stated,
the
the
property
has
been
zoned
wd1
since
1976..
There
are
a
lot
of
permitted
uses
by
right.
That
are
very
you
know,
obviously
commercial
in
nature,
which
would
really
be
not
in
keeping
you
know
with
this
surrounding
area.
As
it's
been
developed,
there
are
approximately
the
wd-1
property.
The
zoning
is
a
bit
of
a
holdover.
N
Now,
a
lot
of
the
area
that
was
wd1
was
incorporated
into
the
special
area
plan
in
the
smart
code,
but
we
do
have
some
of
these
Remnant
areas
where
the
zoning
still
does
exist.
So
of
those
you
know
most
were
built
in
the
1920s
we
do
have.
There
is
a
home
directly
next
door
that
was
built
in
2007
with
a
single
family
house
and
then
again
just
the
surrounding
context.
N
The
property
is
in
what
would
be
the
Greektown
National
register
historic,
traditional
Cultural,
District
again
that
District
does
establish
cultural
significance
but
does
not
have
design
guidelines
at
this
time.
So
there's
nothing
to
apply
with
respect
to
that.
At
this
point
in
time
and
just
some
sight
photos.
Q
N
Family
oriented
so
under
the
conditional
use
criteria
they
they
do
have
approval
for
the
reduced
setbacks
by
the
board
of
adjustments,
but
in
all
other
aspects
it
will
be
the
standards
of
the
Land
Development
code,
specifically
building
fire
and
FEMA
floodplain
requirements.
There's
an
elevation
difference
that
has
to
be
made
up
here
to
get
the
first
floor
above
base
flood
elevation.
N
We
don't
have
any
see
any
concerns
with
the
impacts
on
surrounding
areas.
This
is
predominantly
single
family,
residential
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
should
not
adversely
in
fact,
impact
historical
or
environmental
resources.
Again,
as
we
talked
about
this
is
in
the
Greektown
traditional
cultural
property
District,
which
does
recognize
the
cultural
history
of
the
area.
But
again
at
this
point
does
not
establish
design
regulations
for
new
development.
We
don't
think
this
will
affect
adversely
affect
property.
N
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
did
review
this
on
August,
21st
and
recommended
by
a
5-0
vote
to
approve,
including
the
following
conditions
of
the
building
permit
for
the
construction
of
the
single-family
dwelling
shall
be
obtained
within
one
year
and
they
did
add
a
condition
that
the
dwelling
shell
function
is
a
single
family
unit
with
common
utilities.
So
there's
some
discussion
about
a
little
bit
of
separation
of
uses
between
the
first
floor
and
the
second
floor.
Second
floor.
N
N
So
this
was
a
point
of
discussion
that
the
board
did
want
to
ensure
that
the
dwelling
you
know
functions
as
a
single
family
unit
with
common
utilities,
there
was
one
person
who
spoke
in
favor
and
one
member
of
the
public
who
spoke
in
opposition
to
the
request,
so
with
that
I
will
stop
and
answer
any
questions
at
the
appropriate
time.
Thank
you.
O
Yes,
go
ahead,
Renee
how
many
parking
spaces,
which
would
you
drive
when
the
garage
can
the
the
household.
N
Between
it
was
the
reduced
setback
on
the
front
of
if
they
build
to
the
front
setback
that
was
approved
by
the
board
of
adjustments.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
this
right,
I
think
it's
16
feet.
N
C
K
Renee
are
I,
see
on
the
overhead
slide,
the
it
there's
trees
coming
onto
the
lot.
Are
those
trees
going
to
be
removed
any
of
those
trees
removed.
N
The
I
was
out
visiting
the
site
today
and
there's
one
looks
like
a
prominent
tree
in
the
back.
That
is
actually
on
the
adjoining
property.
If
that
was
absurd,
I
need
to
look
at
the.
Let
me
look
at
the
see
if
they
have
the
tree
removals.
It
looks
like
looking
at
the
overhead,
or
at
this
survey
there
may
be
I.
It
doesn't
appear
that
that
they
need
to
remove
any
trees.
If
they
do,
it
would
be
I.
Think,
there's
a
let's
see.
N
There's
a
palm
tree
that
might
have
to
come
out,
but
the
trees
in
the
rear
are
are
largely
not
affected,
and
so
how.
N
K
And
I
I
see
that
there's
there's
only
a
five
foot
setbacks
on
both
sides.
N
N
K
K
N
At
least
not
until
the
the
end
of
the
year,
you
know
with
from
the
consultant
and
then
what
we
decide
to
do
with
you
know.
There's
there's
work
like
a
lot
of
work
left
to
be
done
on
that.
I
wouldn't
expect
anything
informative
until
again,
until
we
get
probably
toward
the
end
of
the
year
as
to
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
try
to
move
forward
with
design
guidelines.
If
it's
going
to
be
a
conservation
overlay
or
what
it
might
be.
N
If
you
look
around
the
neighborhood,
you
will
see
other
similar.
You
know
the
house
there's
the
house
next
door
again.
That's
all
that's
a
that's
a
difficult
question
to
answer,
because
there's
not
a
predominant
architectural
style
in
this
area
because
it's
been
developed
over
so
many
years
and
that's
part
of
the
issue.
I,
don't
want
to
weigh
in
as
to
whether
or
not
I
think
this
comports
with
because
we
don't
have
design
guidelines
whether
or
not
this
comports
with
you
know
the
area.
Overall,
it's
a
single
family
house.
B
B
B
N
B
Sir,
is
there
a
reason
why
we
shouldn't
look
at
that
and
rezone
it
more
appropriately
like
we
did
include
aisles.
N
I
think
this
entire
area
probably
needs
to
to
to
me.
It
really
wants
to
to
be
part
of
the
special
area
plan
in
the
smart
code,
so
we
can
look
at
look
at
it
as
a
unique
area
and
put
in
appropriate
setbacks
and-
and
you
know,
controls
and
things
of
that
nature.
So,
yes,
that
is
something
that
and
I
think
that
will
come
out
of
the
out
of
the
the
overall
historic
study.
That's
going
on.
N
One
of
the
things
that
we
asked
them
to
look
at
was
the
you
know.
The
special
area
plan
is
and
the
character
districts
and
is
is
there
is
that
an
appropriate
mechanism
to
I
mean
for
the
future
for
this
area?
So
yes,
it
does.
This
area
is
a
real
hodgepodge
of
stuff.
You
have
r60,
you've
got
wd1,
you've
got
multi-family,
but
in
reality
a
lot
of
it
most
of
it
is
just
single
family
detached
with
so
it
does
need
some
attention.
B
And
I,
don't
recall:
is
that
part
of
the
tasking
for
the
Greektown
Cultural
District
the
character
or.
I
N
B
I
know:
yes,
we've
gone
a
long
ways
from
that
to
the
special
area
plan
to
now
we're
dealing
with
remnants
of
that
sure.
The
other
question
I
had
was
the
two
kitchens
I
recall
it
one
time
two
kitchens
were
not
allowed
in
a
single
family
residence
and
we
departed
from
that.
This.
N
B
And
then
I
want
to
also
ask
just
for
the
everybody
from
actually
my
education
conditional
uses
are
by
right
or
by
conditional
use
for
this.
Vacation
homes
are
by.
N
The
attorney
Reynolds
I
should
say
the
short-term
rentals
are
conditional
use
in
the
wd-1
okay.
B
And
I
think
it
was
already
asked
we
really
don't
have
any
other.
There
are
no.
This
fits
with
all
the
ordinances
that
we
have
on
board
at
this
time.
It
does
okay
and
it's
very
similar
to
the
observations
that
were
made
for
the
for
the
galarakis
I
want
to
call
it
the
the
the
the
snack
bar
that's
going
to
be
there
on
Athens
Street.
There
was
some
interest
in
I
think
it
was
the
vernacular
at
that
time
right.
B
It
was
a
question
of
asking
the
commission
whether
we
include
that
and
I
think
it
was
commissioner
couliana
says:
well
there
isn't
or
or
could
we
and
then
I
think
your
point
was
we
could
but
who's
going
to
be
the
judge
of
whether
it
fits
with
that.
So
we
have
no
guidelines
for
that
either.
Okay,
all
right!
That's
my
questions.
I've
got
a
couple
of
lights
on
commissioner
Eisner.
Thank.
P
You
thank
you,
mayor
Renee,
just
two
quick
questions
where
the
AC
platform
is
going
to
be.
Is
that
going
to
be
elevated
because,
with
a
five
foot
setback
you
will
not
be
able
to
utilize
that
side
of
the
house.
N
They
can
utilities
are
allowed
to
be
in
that
required
side
yard,
so
they
they
theoretically
could
I'll
I.
Don't
let
me
look
at
the.
Let
me
look
at
the
plan
and
see
if
they
show
where
their
AC
unit
is
going
to
be
because.
N
N
No
I
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
where
the
AC
is
going
to
be
again.
It's
a
conditional
use,
it's
not
a
building
for
it
level.
Detail
I
can
defer
to
the
applicant,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
AC
units
may
be
allowed
in
a
side
yard
setback.
Obviously,
if
they
need
to
be
elevated,
they
need
to
be
elevated.
Otherwise,
they'll
have
to
go
in
the
rear
yard.
P
My
other
question,
thank
you
was
what
was
the
public
complaint
at
the
other
meeting.
N
It
was,
it
was
again
about
the
upcoming
potential
for
design
requirements
for
the
and
waiting
until
something
waiting
until
we
have
whatever
that
might
be
coming
out
of
the
evaluation
of
the
Cultural,
District
and
future
design
guidelines.
So
deferring
action
until
that
until
that.
R
Hi
Renee
it's
hard
for
me
to
tell
from
a
5
000
foot
view
from
the
NHC
slosh
map,
but
is
this
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area?
Yes,
it
is
if
it's
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area
how
and
why
are
we
allowing
any
first
floor
living
space
period?
Well,.
N
R
N
R
N
B
Okay,
are
there
any
other
questions.
D
Are
you
offering
the
city's
file
for
the
commission's
consideration
as
evidence
in
this
matter?
Yes,
ma'am
and
then
also
just
for
the
record
mayor
I
wanted
to
clarify,
because
you
said
we
had
a
discussion
about
this.
Our
discussion
was
not
specifically
about
the
application
itself.
It
was
about
the
efficacy
of
the
wdi
district.
Just
generally.
L
L
B
Okay,
let
me
get
back
all
right,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicants:
do
you
have
any
cross-examination
for
Ms
Vince
and
any
questions
that
you
might
have
of
her
concerning
her
presentation.
S
My
name
is
Tom
zevitt122,
Cedar,
Street
and
I'm,
the
applicant
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
can
answer
any
of
the.
B
S
As
far
as
the
distance
of
the
house
or
the
that's
right
to
the
east
of
it,
that's
my
current
location,
that's
my
residence!
That
house
is
according
to
the
the
the
survey
it's
about
eight
feet
from
the
lot
line,
so
it
plus
five
and
a
half
or
so
because
the
house
is
only
26
foot
wide,
so
it'd
be
at
least
five
and
a
half
on
on
that
side
of
the
house.
So
you're
it's
more
than
five
feet.
The
sidewalk
issue.
There
isn't
a
sidewalk
on
that
side
of
the
street.
S
I,
don't
know
if
it's
something
that's
going
to
be
proposed,
it'd
be
very
hard
to
put
one
in
on
that
side
of
the
street
and
that
would
add
an
additional
10
feet
in
the
driveway.
So
it's
26
feet
from
the
street
to
the
front
of
the
garage
posed
on
that
I.
Try
to
think
air
conditioning.
You
know
we
haven't.
These
are
preliminary
plans.
We
haven't
gotten
into
the
final
plans
and
figuring
it
all
out
I'm
trying
to
get
it
so
that
I
can
put
the
steps
interior
instead
of
exterior,
because
I
think
it
looks
better.
S
L
S
Garage
is
enclosed
and
something
about
the
air
conditioning
units.
We
have
not
figured
out
where
that's
going
to
be
placed
at
this
point,
but
I
did
check
with
the
planning
and
zoning
and
they
said
that
I
could
put
it
on
the
west
side
of
the
house
that
it
would
not
affect
foot
as
long
as
I
kept
it
up
nine
foot
or
not
nine
feet,
yeah
nine
feet
nine
feet
above
sea
level.
So,
okay.
B
B
Would
you
like
to
have
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
add
to
what
you've
just
said?
As
far
as
a
presentation
sure.
S
Just
just
a
quick
comment
that
that
Cedar
Street
is
primarily
residential,
there's
no
commercial
businesses
on
Cedar
Street
per
se
on
the
corner
of
Cedar
and
Alternate
19th.
There
are
but
nothing
on
Cedar
Street,
it's
all
Residential
Properties
I,
don't
and
every
neighbor
that
I've
talked
to
doesn't
want
to
have
a
commercial
property
built
on
this
property.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
for
a
residential
variants
on
that?
So
that's
it.
B
O
S
And
then
there's
a
10-foot
easement
also
to
the
road.
You
have
a
10-foot
easement
to
the
road.
That's
that's
the
easement
debt,
where
people
can
put
their
utilities
and
whatnot.
So
it's
a
total
of
26
feet
is
the
closest
it
would
be
to
the
road
farther
on
the
on
the
west
side.
But
on
the
east
side,
it's
26
feet
to
the
road
from
the
house.
Yes,.
O
Sir
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question
on
our
Ferris
Boulevard.
Is
it
as
you
come
down
south
previously
there
have
been
businesses
there
before?
Are
you
aware
of
potentially
there
there
could
be
any
businesses
on
our
Affairs
behind
your
backyard
over
there
yeah.
S
D
Yes,
I
did
have
an
additional
question.
It
wasn't
something
that
was
discussed
at
the
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting,
but
it
was
kind
of
highlighted
by
the
commissioner's
question
regarding
the
garage
space
I
know
in
coastal
areas
a
lot
of
times.
There
is
a
code
requirement
for
a
non-conversion
agreement
for
those
areas
that
are
in
the
flood
plain
I
am
unaware
of
whether
or
not
there
is
one
that
exists
currently
in
the
tarpon
code.
N
D
You
be
adverse
to
the
commission,
putting
a
second
condition
on
here
that
would
be
for
a
non-conversion
agreement
to
be
executed
and
recorded
in
the
public
records.
What
that
would
do
is
it
would
ensure
that
the
garage
space
that
you
have
built
down
there
could
never
be
converted
into
living
space,
which
would
actually
be
in
violation
of
our
code
anyway,
but
due
to
the
fact
that
it's
a
space
that
isn't
read
readily
visible
after
after
you've
constructed
the
residence
I
think
it
would
be
best
to
have
that
non-conversion
agreement
on
record.
S
B
Mrs
Vincent:
do
you
have
any
cross-examination?
No,
sir,
again,
okay,
thank.
B
B
C
B
R
R
K
Isn't
attorney
Kardash
great
see,
I
worked
with
her
on
the
pnz
and
she
always
had
something
helpful
to
suggest
so.
I
I
concur.
What
the
vice
mayor
said:
I
I,
I
slightly
tempted
to
ask
for
a
deferral
till
this
architectural
design
thing
is,
is
done,
however,
I
I.
K
Don't
think
that
would
be
fair
to
the
applicant
right
now,
since
we
don't
really
know
when
that's
going
to
happen,
I
think
it's
probably
I
mean
it's
tight,
but
it's
pretty
much
all
you
can
do
with
with
a
lot
that
size,
so
I
think
I
would
go
ahead
and
approve
it.
Okay,.
O
Yeah
I'm
looking
to
support
this
application
tonight,
I
do
see
on
Athens
Street.
There
have
been
several
new
buildings
that
have
been
put
up,
constructed
with
a
very
similar
setbacks
to
nearby
properties
and
thankful
that
the
applicants
willing
to
support
the
from
the
advice
that
the
City
attorney
has
given
and
not
utilizing
that
garage
for
any
other
living
space,
because
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
is
is
people
who
are
living
there,
parking
on
Cedar
Street
and
continually
to
to
use
the
brick
road,
a
lot
which
you
can.
O
B
On
that,
what
I'm
going
to
do
is,
if
you
can
just
be
patient
second,
ask
for
a
motion
for
up
to
approve
resolution,
2023-27
an
application
for
the
conditional
use
of
122,
West
Cedar
Street
and
when
I
asked
Ms
Kardash
as
you've
invited
me
to
do
for
a
a
suggested
motion
concerning
concerning,
considering
that
you've
helped
with
this.
Yes,.
D
If
it's
the
desire
of
the
commission
to
approve
this
I
would
request
that
you
approve
it
with
the
conditions
that
are
up
on
the
screen,
so
that
the
building
permit
is
for
the
construction
of
the
single
family
dwelling
within
one
year,
that
the
dwelling
shall
function
as
a
single
family
unit
with
common
utilities
and
then
the
third
condition.
Being
the
execution
and
recording
of
a
non-conversion
agreement.
B
B
D
This
matter
before
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Board
of
Commissioners
is
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
commission's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
commission.
D
The
commission
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
application
based
on
the
city's
code
of
ordinances.
D
D
None
anybody
who
is
going
to
speak,
please
stand
and
receive
the
oath.
Do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
on
this
matter
before
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Board
of
Commissioners
this
evening?
Right,
please
make
sure
you
state
your
name
address
and
indicate
that
you've
been
sworn
when
you
come
up
to
speak.
Thank
you.
N
You
this
is
application
23-59.
This
is
site
plan
approval
for
Tequila's
florist,
located
at
14,
7
417,
South,
Pinellas
Avenue-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
kind
of
project
that
we
always
envisioned
when
we
put
the
smart
code
in
place.
So
it
kind
of
makes
me
happy
to
see
this
come
forward.
Frankly,
the
the
the
existing
florist
building
is
proposed
to
be
expanded,
primarily
on
the
second
floor,
with
a
small
addition
on
the
first
floor
to
provide
for
stair
access
to
the
Second
Story.
N
The
first
floor
will
continue
to
function
as
the
florist
and
workspace.
The
second
floor
will
be
a
residential
unit,
so
this
is
in
as
I
stated,
this
is
in
their
smart
code
area.
It's
in
the
t5a,
the
South
Pinellas
District.
N
You
have
alley
access
to
the
property,
there's
existing
parking
in
the
rear.
So
this
is
the
the
first
floor
kind
of
the
the
footprint.
If
you
will
Edition
that
will
provide
the
stair
access
to
the
Second
Story.
This
is
the
existing
building
footprint
and
so
their
landscape
wise.
There
will
be
a
they're
going
to
put
a
little
bit
of
retention
back
here,
and
then
they
have
Landscaping
along
the
front
of
the
property.
It
is
compliant
that
really
weren't
any
specific
requirements
associated
with
this
for
landscaping,
but
they
are
improving
the
property.
N
So
this
is
these
are
the
elevations
of
what
what
the
proposed
two-story
will
look
like.
So
this
this
is
the
addition
area,
the
kind
of
the
footprint
Edition
for
the
two-story.
You
know
for
the
entry
and
the
stairs
up
to
the
Second,
Story
oops
wrong
way,
sorry
and
then
just
some
more
a
little
more
detailed
building
elevations.
So
this
is
the
existing
building.
As
you
see
it
today,
these
are
what
the
proposed
elevations
will
look
like
when
it's
said
and
done,
and
so
the
these
are
the
this.
N
Is
the
stairways
going
up
and
then
onto
the
the
first
floor.
There
are,
they
are
adding
a
small
bathroom
on
the
first
floor
and
then
the
this
is
getting
reworked
into
work,
room
and
storage.
This
is
a
retail
sales
area
and
then
the
second
floor
is
essentially
a
living
room
living
area.
You
know
full
living
unit
with
a
home
office,
so
there
really
are
no
issues
with
all
the
site
plan
review
criteria,
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
Land
Development,
the
smart
code.
N
So
the
planning
is
only
board
did
hear
this
on
August
21st
and
they
did
recommend
approval
by
a
vote
of
5-0
and
there
was
no
one
who
spoke
in
other
than
the
applicant.
There
were
no
members
of
the
public
who
spoke
on
the
application.
So
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
R
Yeah
go
ahead
actually
I'm,
looking
at
the
condition
as
far
as
the
site
plan
and
expiration
when
the
application
has
been
filed.
Looking
at
our
current
Land
Development
code
changes
should
we
not
maybe
amend
that
to
be
obtained.
N
Right
now,
I
mean
we
have
to
work
under
the
existing
code,
language
and
so
I
think
we
would
be
overstepping
if
we
preemptively
put
in
or
change
the
expiration
to
be
something
that's
not
been
adopted
yet
I'll
defer
to
the
attorney.
However,.
D
B
N
T
My
name
is
Andrew
pavlis,
417,
South,
Pinellas,
Avenue
and
I
was
warning.
My
wife
and
I
are
the
owners
but
I'm
also
the
architect
as
well.
So
we're
definitely
looking
forward
to
this
I'm
going
to
start
the
drawings,
basically
probably
tomorrow
on
it.
So
I'm
hoping
I'll
get
a
permit
before
the
end
of
the
year,
and
hopefully
we
can
start
construction,
probably
by
maybe
December
if
everything
works
out.
But
if
you
have
any
questions
about
the
designer.
K
Good
evening
the
the
florist
is
going
to
stay
there
right.
Yes,
yes,
okay,
thank
God
because
guess
it.
K
And
now
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
this.
This
is
beautiful,
I
mean
this
is
exactly
like.
You
said
this
is
the
dream
of
the
downtown
area
to
have
this
kind
of
you
know,
mix
use.
So
you
have
a
question.
B
Okay,
Ms
Vincent.
Do
you
have
any
cross-examination?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
public
comments.
Are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
this
item.
C
U
Good
evening,
Peter
delacis
from
afar,
you
have
my
address.
I
just
would
like
to
reiterate
what
Renee
started
with
this
is
what
we
envision
the
smart
code
to
do
too
bad.
The
people
who
bought
the
manatee
Village
didn't
raise
it
and
put
residential
above
that
it's
been
over
two
years.
We're
still
looking
at
that,
but
as
far
as
this,
this
is
the.
D
Point
of
ordering
mayor,
yes,
I,
I
apologize
for
interrupting,
but
your
remote
access
Witnesses
have
not
been
sworn
okay.
B
U
No
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
should
maybe
you
know
we
do
incentives
or
facades
and
other
types
of
things.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
incentives
in
the
CRA
for
adding
residential
above
building.
So
it's
just
another
Visionary
thought
to
look
at
as
I
spoke
about
earlier.
We
need
to
have
Vision
on
this
board
and
we
set
the
vision
originally
when
we
put
the
smart
code
into
effect
and
now
you
have
a
chance
to
implement.
I
U
B
Thank
you,
Mr
delacas,
there's
Mr
jumper.
Are
there
any
other
public
comments.
B
To
oh
I'm,
sorry,
Mr
geddis
go
ahead
and.
F
I
have
a
quick
question:
David
Ballard,
Gettys
Jr
Georgia
Avenue
Palm
Harbor.
What
would
be
considered
a
requisite
fee
as
it
applies
to
Redevelopment
practices.
D
That's
something
that
is
determined
through
a
different
process.
I
also
didn't
see
that
you
were
sworn.
If
all
you
have
is
that
question,
then
that's
technically
not
really
relevant
here.
That
can
be
answered
in
a
different
Forum,
but
if
you
did
want
to
make
comment,
I
do
have
to
swear
you
in.
D
F
F
As
the
presentation
with
Mrs
Vincent
was
being
delivered,
there
was
reference
to
a
to
pay
all
requisite
fees
and
such
requisite
fees
as
they
apply
to
a
future
formulations
in
regards
to
Redevelopment
was
my
question.
N
That's
simply
referring
to
the
the
over
the
basket
of
fees
that
come
along
with
any
building.
Permit
fees,
impact
fees,
what
are
sewer
impact
fees,
things
of
that
nature?
There
are
common
fees
that
are
in
our
building
codes
that
were
that
were
required
to
collect
when
buildings
are
going
through
permitting
processes.
I
N
B
R
Huge
fan
of
of
mixed
use
I
think
we
need
to
see
more
of
it.
It's
the
wish.
We
should
do
infill
and
development
in
this
town
and
I'm
extremely
pleased
to
see
this
I
really
am.
Thank.
O
Like
the
application
that
the
the
owners
are
presented
to
us
and
I
mean,
like
I
said,
like
Renee
said
this,
hopefully
we
start
seeing
some
more
buildings
like
this
in
the
future
that
that
fits
our
downtown
area
and
hopefully
more
like
this
going
on
Safford
Avenue
to
try
to
enhance
the
trail
in
the
future.
So
that's
why
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
and,
as
we
start
picking
things
up,
this
could
be
a
domino
for
many
good
things
to
come
in
the
future.
So
thank
you.
L
L
P
Just
want
to
thank
you,
you
should
be
an
architect,
yeah
I
know
that
was
a
joke.
No,
it
happens
to
really
look
beautiful
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you,
because
that
particular
area
could
use
that
a
little
bit
of
an
uplift
and
there's
been
other
locations
that
have
been
built
and
looking
nice
as
well,
and
we
just
appreciate
you
know
that
you're
willing
to
make
that
investment
into
Tarpon.
So
thank
you.
B
You
know
for
me
at
commissioner
coulianos:
did
you
have
anything
else?
Yeah?
It's
it's!
It's
welcomed,
although
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
grew
up
with
a
green
and
white
canopy
in
front
of
the
store,
so
you
don't
have
a
canopy
and
I'm
gonna
miss
that,
but
but
thank
you
very
much
for
investing
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
continuing
to
do
that.
So
and
best
of
luck
in
the
future
I
see
that
this
is
the
way
the
commission
is
going
to
go.
B
L
B
Break
point
of
privilege
we're
going
to
take
a
10
minute
break
we're
going
to
recess
at
8,
35
and
Rincon
reconvene
at
8,
45.
B
B
item
15's
application,
22-109
amending
hurricane
shelter
impact
requirements
and
establishing
Coastal
High
Hazard
area
design
requirements.
This
is
the
first
reading
Ms
Kardash.
If
you
could
read
the
we've
got
to
the
this,
is
not
quasi
digital
Zachary,
okay,
so
I
guess.
What
we'll
do
is
the
presentation
for
both
at
one
time
and
then
key
off
ordinance.
20
22-24,
Land
Development
code
amends.
So
if
you
could
read
that
ordinance
by
title,
please,
yes.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
2022
Dash,
four,
an
ordinance
at
the
city
of
city
of
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
code
of
ordinances,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code,
article
8
amending
section,
122.12,
hurricane
shelter,
impact
study
and
article
9,
adding
section
149,
Coastal,
higher
Hazard
area
development
regulations
and
section
149.01,
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
area
design
standards
providing
for
severability,
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
foreign
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
the
first
reading.
D
B
Okay,
thank
you,
State
Management
course.
N
B
N
Good
evening,
mayor
and
Commissioners,
so
there
there's
two
two
pieces
of
legislation
here.
One
is
an
ordinance
amending
our
current
Land
Development
code
regarding
what
are
the
requirements
for
help.
Does
hurricane
shelter,
impact
studies
and
mitigation
efforts
are
requirements
associated
with
that
and
then
the
second
was
developing
a
new
section
of
the
code
that
established
Coastal
High
Hazard
area
development
standards.
N
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
the
board
has
reviewed
this.
We
had
it.
We
had
a
first
first
reading
back
in
December
of
last
year,
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion.
There
was
honestly
not
a
lot
of
of
consensus,
so
we
we
kind
of
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
again
trying
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
heard
that
night,
with
with
the
board
I,
don't
know
if
I've
been
able
to
to
get
to
get
us
there
frankly,
but
I
do
want
to
continue
the
discussion.
N
If,
if,
if
we
don't
get
through
the
first
reading,
we
don't
we'll
we'll
take
another
swing
at
a
later
date,
so
the
ordinance
20
22-24,
as
I
said
it
amends
our
current
hurricane
shelter
impact
study
requirements.
So,
basically,
if
a
development's
coming
in
that's
in
the
that
is
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area-
and
it
is
for
more
than
you
know
a
threshold
as
it's
written
today,
it's
10
10
units
under
the
under
the
revisions,
then
we
require
a
mitigation
study
on
shelter
impacts.
If
it's
in
an
evacuation
area.
N
So
the
we
tried
to
clean
up
that
section
of
the
Land
Development
code,
we
review
re,
remove
some
references
to
how
the
studies
can
be
conducted.
What
were
acceptable
sources
of
data,
we
have
included
a
requirement
that
any
mitigation
study
that
would
come
before
this
board
would
have
to
also
be
reviewed
by
Pinellas
County
Emergency
Management,
and
then
we
we've
added
to
the
acceptable
mitigation.
N
Acceptable
mitigation,
if
it's
required,
we
added
the
direct
payment
of
a
mitigation
fee
or,
and
we
also
added
utilization
of
the
coastal
Hazard
area,
design
standards,
and
that's
the
next
section,
so
we
were
trying
to
one.
So
this
reduces
the
rig
the
requirements
for
when,
when
or
tightens
up
when
a
shelter
impact
study
has
to
be
done.
N
The
second
section
of
this
ordinance
is
creating
section
149,
which
is
Coastal
High,
Hazard
area
development
regulations
and
then
section
14901,
which
is
the
coastal
Hazard
area
design
standards.
So
again,
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
provide
some
provide
additional
guidance
that
we
don't
have
now
additional
regulations
about
how
things
can
develop
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
We
have
a
lot
of
land.
That's,
and
specifically,
this
is
really
referring
more
to
residential
design
requirements
than
anything
else.
The
design
standards
are
meant
to
apply
to
multi-family
and
single-family
attached.
N
So
multi-family
Apartments,
if
you
will
and
townhome
developments
that
are
in
the
coastal,
High
Hazard
area,
so
that's
an
a
evacuation
Zone,
and
so
it's
an
added
requirement
and
added
layer
of
regulation
to
prevent
flooding
or
mitigate
for
flooding
and
and
and
additional
wind
load
requirements.
So
there's
two
things
that
would
apply
to
those
projects
across
the
board.
N
One
would
be
requirement
to
build
to
base
flood
elevation
plus
three
and
the
second
higher
win
load
category
then,
as
a
project
hit
certain
thresholds
and
we
lowered
those
thresholds
from
our
first
conversation
with
you
any
project
that
has
50
units
shell,
a
minimum
of
50
units,
would
have
to
provide
for
these
additional
mitigation
measures
and
then
at
one
at
100
units
we
lowered
the
threshold.
So
as
the
projects
get
larger,
you
have
to
provide
for
more
of
those
mitigation
measures.
N
N
We
went
that
route
and
that's
what
the
resolution
attached
with
this
is
is.
Basically,
we
pulled
those
mitigation
measures
that
we
were
originally
proposed
to
be
included
in
the
ordinance
we
put
them
in
a
resolution,
and
then
we
put
put
a
reference
into
that.
You
would
have
a
reference
to
that
resolution.
N
I
know
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
Miss
Kardash
indicated
that
that
would
may
not
be
the
best
approach
to
this
because
I
guess
it
I
think
it
dilutes
our
ability
to
enforce
those
mitigation
measures.
I'll
have
to
defer
to
her
as
to
as
to
why.
N
Having
said
all
that,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
felt
very
strongly
that
they
wanted
this
ordinance
and
they
wanted
those
mitigation
measures
brought
back
into
the
ordinance
included
in
some
way.
So
I'm
gonna
stop
there
I
know
you've
read
some
of
four
of
you
have
seen
this
before.
Obviously,
commissioner
colianos
is
not
and
and
see
if
we've
I
don't
know.
If
we've
addressed
your
previous
concerns
again,
it
didn't
have
a
lot
of
consensus
when
we
went
through
this
before,
but
my
yeah
I
think
my
strongest,
you
know
feeling
about
this.
N
D
Yes,
I
would
I
do
want
to
just
take
a
minute
to
make
sure
that
the
commission
understands
why
I
am
recommending
that
if
you
want
these
mitigation
measures
to
be
enforceable,
that
they're
included
in
the
ordinance
and
not
the
resolution.
You
Know,
Your,
Land,
Development
code
and
state
state
requirements
for
adopting
Land,
Development
Co
codes
and
what
you're
going
to
require
developers
to
do
is
stringent
for
a
reason,
because
you
know
you
want
to
have
that
extra
level
of
notice.
D
You
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
you're
going
to
be
enforcing
things,
they
have
the
force
of
law.
That's
accompanies
a
ordinance
resolutions
are
more
temporary
in
nature,
which
is
why
they're
easier
to
amend
and
they
should
be
more
policy
statements
rather
than
actual
building
design
requirements.
I,
don't
think
that
a
resolution
for
mitigation
measures
is
going
to
have
the
same
efficacy
that
a
ordinance
is
going
to
have.
If
you
want
these
to
be
enforceable
and
you
want
to
have
these
mitigation
measures
included.
D
N
So
when
we,
when
we
advertise,
we
did
include,
we
still
included
the
149
and
149.01
sections,
so
we
definitely
advertised
the
the
ordinance
that
we
provided
to
them
shows
those
they're
stricken
through,
and
then
we
had
a
resolution.
So
I
just
want
to
confirm.
If,
if
we
get
through
this
tonight-
and
we
can
want
to
pull
those
back
in,
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
to
Second
reading
at
the
next
meeting.
The
way
it
sits
or
do
you,
what
would
you
want
us
to?
D
The
question
would
be
whether
or
not
you
needed
to
re-advertise
the
title.
The
title,
as
it
currently
reads
specifically
says:
hurricane
impact,
shelter,
study,
adding
sections,
149,
Coastal,
High,
Harriet
development
regulations
and
section
149.01,
Coastal
High,
Hazard
area
design
standards.
This
would
come
under
that
section:
14901,
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
area,
design
standards,
so
I,
don't
think
that
you'd
have
to
re-advertise
the
title,
because
that
sort
of
already
included
in
there-
and
you
already
have
that
advertised
on
August,
2nd
and
and
then
tomorrow,
on
on
September
6th.
B
We
don't,
along
the
lines
of
witnesses,
we've
run
into
situations
where
an
ordinance
has
had
a
substantial
change
from
the
first
to
the
second
and
and
we've
had
instances
where
we've
done
a
new
first
first
reading.
That
would
not
be
would
that
be
something
that
in
an
abundance
of
caution,
as
you
hear
sometimes
to
consider
or
if
we
get
to
that
point
this
evening,.
D
I'm,
not
sure
I,
think
wait
and
see
if
you're
going
to
get
to
that
point
this
evening,
because
I
know
there's
other
questions
regarding
the
mitigation
strategies
and
the
resolution
themselves.
Okay,.
B
V
My
name
is
Trey
strube
I
live
at
12924
Buckhorn
Drive
in
Hudson.
I
am
a
student
in
the
public
policy
and
administration
program
at
St.
Petersburg
College
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
the
Tarpon
Springs
campus
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
voice
my
support
for
ordinance
number
22
2022-24
this
semester,
I'm
working
on
a
case
study
project
involving
hurricane
shelter
mitigation
in
Tarpon
Springs.
V
The
proposed
changes
to
the
Land
Development
code
will
provide
the
city
with
the
best
data
sources
to
make
Emergency
Management
decisions
and
increase
its
preparedness
for
Coastal
storms
as
well
as
future
environmental
changes.
The
lower
thresholds
on
Hurricane
shelter
impact
studies
are
an
important
change
because
of
the
vulnerability
of
the
city
being
mostly
located
within
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area,
as
Coastal
storms
become
more
frequent.
I
think
it's
essential
that
we
hold
future
developers
to
this
higher
standard.
V
Regarding
shelter
mitigation,
I
watched
a
prior
Board
of
Commissioners
meeting
from
back
in
December,
where
the
lack
of
a
hurricane
shelter
in
the
city
was
being
discussed
and
how
the
solutions
listed
under
Section,
122
12C
could
be
utilized.
I
think
these
Provisions
listen,
Under,
Numbers,
eight
and
nine
would
be
beneficial
in
lieu
of
a
shelter
as
Road
elevation
and
improvements
would
benefit
the
community
if
evacuation
were
to
become
necessary.
The
changes
to
the
base,
flood
elevation
and
wind
Zone
risk
categories
will
lessen
potential
losses
after
a
storm
and
help
Property
Owners
with
insurance
costs.
V
I
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
the
last
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting,
and
there
was
concern
expressed
over
those
design
options
listed
in
the
resolution.
This
card
has
said
it
much
better
than
I
could
but
I
wanted
to
recommend
that
those
measures
are
included
in
the
ordinance
or
somewhere
within
the
building
code,
as
it
would
increase
the
resiliency
of
the
city
against
Coastal
storms
and
projected
sea
level
rises.
V
The
addition
of
the
listed
items
would
assist
the
community
in
recovering
from
Coastal
storms
and
ensure
that
infrastructure
remains
functional.
According
to
the
Pinellas
County
local
mitigation
strategy,
every
dollar
invested
in
mitigation
saves
a
Pinellas
County
Community,
an
average
of
six
dollars
in
recovery.
V
The
proposed
changes
to
the
Land
Development
code
will
benefit
the
community
and
they
set
an
example
for
other
coastal
cities
to
adopt
these
similar
design
standards
and,
in
closing,
I
hope
that
the
board
approves
these
proposed
changes
to
the
code,
and
that
includes
those
mitigated
measures
as
well
and
I
wanted
to
thank
Patricia,
McNeese
and
Irene
Jacobs
for
helping
with
my
project
and
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
A
V
A
A
Nowhere
in
here
does
it
say
that
you're
going
to
limit
development
for
human
beings
to
reside
and
oh,
they
can
just
have
one
entrance
and
one
exit
for
hundreds,
maybe
thousands
of
people
in
that
development.
Why
would
you
allow
that?
Why
would
you
allow
any
development
for
residents
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area?
It
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way.
You
don't
have
to
allow
that
I
mean,
and
hopefully
you
will
rewrite
this
and
put
some
real
teeth
in
it.
A
You
know
if
they
want
to
build
a
warehouse
on
there
and
knock
themselves
out,
put
a
warehouse
on
the
river
but
you're
going
to
put
people's
lives
at
risk,
and
you
know
you
might
say
what
a
lot
of
people
say.
Oh
you
know
those
people
know
what
they're
buying
into
no
they
don't.
They
don't
realize.
They
thought
the
government
and
all
the
agencies
did
their
due
diligence
so
that
they
feel
safe
buying
on
the
river.
A
Put
some
real
teeth
in
this
thing:
there's
no
need
for
any
more
development
in
a
place
you
know
is
going
to
flood,
certainly
not
putting
people's
lives
at
risk.
It's
unbelievable
to
me
and
I
hope
that
this
you
will
put
some
mechanism
mechanism
in
there
that
concurrency,
when
the
concurrency
review
happens
specifically
for
the
74
Acres
on
the
ankle
river
that
they
have
to
abide
by
whatever
you
come
up
with
just
because
they
couldn't
get
their
thing
done
in
a
timely
manner,
too
bad
things
change.
A
I
I,
just
can't
imagine
we
just
went
through
this.
I
mean
this,
and
this
was
an
easy
storm
to
get
through
it's
going
to
get
worse.
Maybe
even
this
year
did
you
guys
have
the
power
to
change
that
you
can
save
lives
here
tonight
and
forevermore
just
start.
Thinking
about
that.
Why
would
you
put
anybody
else
at
risk?
A
A
I
mean
just
redraft
this
thing
and
Kick
the
Can
down
the
road
and
fix
a
when
you've
had
more
time
to
think
about
it.
But
this
does
not
seem
to
me
like
something:
that's
going
to
save
lives
and
to
be
able
to
buy
into
a
program
what
the
developer,
who
pays
the
money
to
build
his
project
doesn't
give
a
damn
about
those
people
that
are
going
to
die
in
there.
A
C
U
Good
evening
Peter
delacas
514
Ashland
Avenue.
Let's
get
to
the
root
of
all
this
page,
eight
and
nine
under
the
149
and
149.1
I,
don't
have
any
problems
with
149,
but
I
do
have
issues
with
the
14901.
If
you
look
on
page
nine
you'll
see
all
the
things
that
are
in
the
resolution
was
struck
out
in
red.
They
were
added
and
then
struck
out.
So
as
Miss
Kardash
mentioned,
all
you
have
to
do
is
online
the
what
was
lined
out
and
you
put
it
back
into
the
ordinance.
U
This
does
give
you
the
T
to
enforce
these
things.
Now.
The
point
I
would
like
to
say
all
of
these
are
nice
measures
to
help
improve
the
potential
situation,
but
again
it
does
not
stop
development
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area,
and
these
are
predominantly
for
multi-family
now
I'd
like
to
bring
back
to
everybody's
Vision
a
while
back
during
our
hearings.
It
was
brought
up
that
we
have
somewhere
in
our
ordinances
and
Miss.
Vince
can
maybe
related
that
you
have
to
have
a
balance
within
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
U
You
cannot
develop
more
than
a
certain
level
and
even
miss
karapani
at
the
time.
During
the
hearings
had
mentioned,
there
was
no
mechanism
to
measure
that
as
to
how
to
keep
that
balance.
So
if
anything,
to
start
putting
some
teeth
into
this,
you
need
to
have
some
mechanism
to
determine
what
how
many
areas
in
the
city
or
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
What's
the
residential
development,
and
then
you
have
to
balance
out
what's
the
amount
of
residential
development
you're
going
to
allow
going
further
into
those
areas.
U
So
unless
you
have
a
mechanism
to
measure
what
your
Coastal
Eye
Hazard
residency
rate
of
that
and
not
to
increase
it
from
what
I
remember
that
ordinance
says
not
to
increase
residential
development
in
there,
then
you
need
to
do
that.
Also,
the
fact
that
you're
separating
the
section
as
a
resolution
I
would
again
agree
with
Miss
Kardash.
U
Take
your
attorney's
recommendation
that
this
does
need
to
be
in
the
ordinance,
but
in
the
meantime,
you
do
need
to
find
some
other
ways
to
measure
and
limit
measure
and
limit
the
development
of
residential
and
Coastal
High
Hazard
areas.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
hope
you
have
a
wise
judgment
in
deciding
these
issues.
God.
L
B
I
want
to
go
to
the
commission
for
before
we
do
a
motion
and
a
second
just
to
see
it
get
a
sense
of
where
the
discussion
is
going
to
take
us.
If
I
can
go
to
the
commission
for
any
comments
or
questions
that
you
might
have
of
Ms
Vincent.
Anyone.
R
Are
you
removing
the
list
of
available
mitigation
methods?
I
put
them
at
your
resolution?
I
tend
to
concur
with
our
legal
people
that
that
doesn't
have
the
effect
of
law.
So
it's
it's
not
gonna
I
understand
the
flexibility
there,
but
I
mean
ordinances
could
be
changed
in
Attitude
too,
just
not
that
we
just
have
to
advertise
and
read
them
more
so,
and
the
original
list
was
expanded
to
a
lot
to
allow
any
similar.
R
Resiliency
measures
may
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
city's
technical,
Review
Committee
I
guess
this
is
intended
to
provide
more
flexibility
but
again
I'm,
not
quite
sure
if
it's
enforceable
that
the
technical
Review
Committee
starts,
adding
things
to
subtracting
things
from
from
what
is
an
ordinance
it's.
What
should
be
an
ordinance,
so
I
think
that
that's
enough
about
this
I,
don't
think
it's
ready
to
move
forward
as
it's
written
with
the
you
know,
exculpation
of
of
the
conditions
of
litigation
Etc.
R
As
far
as
the
122.12,
the
hurricane
impact
study,
there's
a
section
in
there
in
that's
in
section
A
that
says
that
they
should
submit
an
analysis
which
indicates
that
available
shelter
space
will
not
be
exceeded.
Wording
needs
to
be
changed
on
this
to
and
revise
to
indicate
Willow
will
not
be
exceeded
so
that
we
get
both
stories
rather
than
just
one.
R
Small
point
for
me
in
section
c
of
that
122.12
impact
study
says
the
study
shall
provide
solutions
for
mitigation
where
shelter
deficit
is
projected.
The
solutions
must
provide
for
mitigation
equivalent
to
the
proposed
developments
anticipated
hurricane
preparedness
impacts
and
may
utilize.
Any
singular
combination
of
the
following
mitigative
techniques
subject
to
review,
buy
and
concurrence
of
the
Pinellas
County
Emergency
Management
Department,
as
applicable
I.
Don't
think
we
want
to
really
get
the
Pinellas
County
Emergency
Management
Department
involved
in
this
whole
process.
R
If
we
do,
it
needs
to
be
codified
somehow
or
there
needs
to
be
a
process
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we've
reached
out
to
them,
if
they're
even
willing
to
do
this
sort
of
thing,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
as
determined
by
and
I
would
like
Mr
liquorice
to
tell
us
who
should
make
those
determinations
within
the
city
government
whether
it's
Mr
Lakers
himself,
whether
it's
the
the
the
building
manager,
whatever
it
should
I,
don't
believe
it
should
go
to
the
to
the
the
PCM
I.
Just
do
not.
R
I
think
it
places
the
pcem
in
a
in
a
position
that
they
probably
do
not
want
to
be
in.
It
also
puts
another
step
in
our
in
our
plan,
which
made
delay
I
mean.
Does
the
PCM
going
to
get
back
to
us
in
30
days,
60
days,
90
days,
so
they're
going
to
want
to
do
it
at
all?
R
That's
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
regarding
May
utilize.
I
think
this
is
actually
getting
into
the
actual
mitigation
part
of
it.
It
says
they
utilize
any
single
or
combination
of
all
the
following
mitigation
techniques,
which
refers
to
the
the
actual
following
resolution:
I'm,
not
a
particular
fan
of
methodology,
which
allows
developers
to
buy
their
way
out
of
anything,
which
is
what
I
think
a
lot
of
those
mitigation
strategies
enable
I
think
there's
a
couple
that
seem
to
be
exceptions
to
this.
R
And
some
of
the
mitigation
techniques,
I,
don't
believe-
should
be
optional
for
new
developments.
Number
six,
the
provision
for
a
limitation
on
density
or
project
phasing
I.
Think
that
needs
to
be
included
should
they
be
inclined
number
seven.
The
provision
and
maintenance
of
Public
Information
Program
and
hurricane
evacuation
fund
within
a
homeowners
association.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
mandatory,
I
think
if
they
don't
discuss
that
when
they're
within
their
homeowners
association,
there's
a
big.
R
You
know
it's
not
doing
Justice
to
the
to
the
homeowners
number,
eight,
the
provision
for
the
elevation
of
all
roads
within
the
proposed
development
above
the
flood
level
of
a
category
three
hurricane
event,
making
evacuation
more
feasible,
I.
Think
that
should
be
strongly
considered
as
a
hard
hard
thing
to
get
by
Otherwise
than
that,
we're
going
to
see
more
flooding,
more
people
not
being
able
to
get
out
of
their
neighborhoods
and
it's.
This
is
not
a
good
thing.
R
R
It's
just
I
know
it
just
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
to
allow
a
developer
to
buy
his
way
out
of
anything,
especially
when
the
concerns
the
safety
of
our
citizens,
because
that's
exactly
what
they
will
do,
they
will
do
the
minimum
possible
and
pay
whatever
they
have
not
to
do
it.
R
So
as
far
as
section
149,
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
development
regulations,
it
mentions
that
vary
below
the
elevation
of
the
cat.
One
storm
surge
line,
as
enabled
by
the
slash
computerized
storm
surge
model,
I
thought
we
had
this
discussion
in
December
I'm,
not
sure
the
slosh
model
is
even
being
used
effectively.
These
days,
I
had
to
dig
for
it
to
find
a
current
one.
R
N
R
N
R
There
was
another
concern
of
mine
where
it
said
that
solid
waste
and
Commercial
hazardous
waste
management
facilities,
including
Regional
storage
treatment
or
transfer
sites,
are
prohibited
in
the
csha
OR
sea,
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
area.
Sorry
I'm
stumbling
here
I
think
that's
a
good
thing,
I'm,
not
quite
sure
if
it
affects
our
current
or
future
plans
for
the
transfer
site,
we
have
for
yard
waste
or
expansion
of
anything
that
we
have
to
do
for
solid
wasted
within
our
town.
I
think
we
need
to
take
that
into
consideration.
R
R
K
K
This
I
mean
we
got
a
taste
small
taste
of
what
can
happen,
that
hurricane
was
125
miles
offshore
and
we
were
flooded
terribly
most
water
I've
seen
in
Tarpon.
In
a
long
time
we
got
to
have
some
teeth
in
you
know
what
gets
built
in
these
Hazard
areas
so
and
I
think
all
the
the
items
that
the
vice
mayor
pointed
out.
The
you
know
this.
This
needs
some
some
more
work,
I
think
it's
a
great
start,
but
I
I
would
recommend
we
defer
and
and
work
on
this
further,
but
we
definitely
have
to.
N
N
N
W
K
Let's
start
before
so
no
I
I'm
happy
that
you
feel
comfortable
enough
to
talk
to
me
like
that.
W
K
Encourage
it
okay,
so
you
know
I
think
this
is
a
great
start,
and
if,
if
we
are,
this
is
the
first
reading,
if
we're
going
to
be
bringing
it
back
and
it's
going
to
get
worked
on
and
then
you
know,
we
can
have
a
second
I'm
fine
with
that
as
well,
but
again,
I,
just
I
haven't
had
enough
time
to
really
unders
to
grasp
everything.
K
Here
again,
the
vice
mayor
pointed
out
a
bunch
of
things
that
that
that
that
that
got
me
thinking
and
got
me
concerned
again
what
this
this
couple-
citizens
that
spoke
again
I'm,
not
saying
I'm,
not
saying
we
should
never
build.
What
I'm
saying
is.
If
we
do,
the
scrutiny
needs
to
be
extensive
because
there
are
people
at
risk
and
we
don't
want
to
have
encourage.
K
We
want
to
save
on
a
building
as
we
can
and
save
as
we
can
for
all
the
the
residents
to
to
get
out
of
places.
If
there's
only
one
exit
out
of
something
and
it's
and
it's
a
dangerous
spot,
then
you
know
those
are
things
that
we
should
address.
And
again
this
is
a
great
start.
I
I
commend
you,
but
I
I
haven't
gotten
my
hands
around
it
enough
to
fair
enough.
K
B
O
To
as
you
know,
the
the
involvement
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
on
this
item
and
with
the
the
city
attorney's
advice
about
possibly
adopting
these
as
ordinances,
do
you
think
that
the
planning
zoning
board
would
like
to
have
it
come
back
in
front
of
them
to
discuss
about
being
changed
into
ordinance.
N
D
That's
a
fair
statement
that
they
did
want
to
see
the
mitigation
measures
included
in
the
ordinance.
What
they
did
not
discuss
was
the
actual
mitigation
measures
themselves.
That's
something
that
that
they
just
didn't
really
touch
on
during
the
discussion,
but
they
did
see
the
need
for
having
mitigation
measures
in
place
and
I
think
part
of
the
reason
that
they
saw
that
as
important
and
wanting
to
move.
D
O
Okay,
now
I
want
to
go
back
to
a
second.
We
talk
about
multi-dwellings
and
you
know
so
much
some
so
much
amount
of
units
and
above
a
single
you
know,
individual
property
owner
has
a
house
and
the
coastal
height
Hazard
older
house.
You
know
either
they
remodel.
What
are
they
subject
to
any
of
these
rules
that
apply
that
we're
looking
at
right
now,
no.
N
Existing
I
mean
existing
platted
single-family
lots
infill
lots.
If
you
will
throughout
the
city,
if
they're
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area,
they
simply
have
to
comply
with
the
fema-based
flood
elevations
plus
we
have
an
additional
requirement
for
one
additional
foot
of
free
board,
so
a
base
flood
elevation,
plus
one
they're,
the
wind
loading
standards
or
whatever's
in
our
Florida
building
code
today,
for
you
know
for
our
area
for
Pinellas
County,
so
there's
none
of
this
would
apply
to
single-family
detached
homes
or
duplexes.
O
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
so
so
I
would
just
recommend
one
of
this
that
you
know
this
board
wants
to
adopt
this
resolution
or
adopt
his
ordinance
and
see
where
we
go
from
there,
but
you
know,
but
to
think
that
there's
going
to
be
no
building
whatsoever
in
the
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
is
just
it's.
A
far-fetched
I
mean
we
live
in
Tarpon
Springs,
definitely
be
tougher
on.
You
know
our
ordinances
and
our
building
code,
but
say
no
building
in
the
coastal
Hyatt
Hazard
is
just
not
going
to
happen.
O
It's
the
city
that
we
are
that
we
live
in,
that
you
choose
to
live
in
too
as
well,
and
you
must
understand
the
property
that
you
buy
and
what
you
plan
to
do
with
it
within
the
code,
so
I'm
not
even
going
to
think
about
supporting
no
building
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
I,
see
there
is
a
lot
of
questions
still
needing
to
be
answered
and
I
understand
that
and
I'm
in
agreement
with
that
as
well.
My
big
question
is,
in
your
opinion,
are
you
more
leaning
for
us
to
possibly
go
ahead
with
this
at
this
point
or
with
the
two
readings
and
then
alter
it
again,
or
is
it
better
to
leave
it
the
way
and
not
move
it
forward,
alter
it
one
shot
and,
and
just
do
it
that
way.
N
It
sounds
like
there's
a
broader
interest
to
to
look
at
a
lot
more
and
I.
Think
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
we
probably
need
some
some
outside
assistance,
maybe
with
regard
to
but
I
am
concerned
and
I'm
glad
that
attorney
Kardash
brought
up
the
live
local
act.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
a
we're
going
to
have
some
multi-family
developments,
affordable,
housing
that
are
going
to
come
to
this
city
under
live
local,
We,
Know,
It
And.
N
If,
if
this
is
in
place,
then
it
applies
to
them
and
that's
probably
our
most
vulnerable
populations,
so
at
least
you're
going
to
have
buildings
that
are
safer,
they're,
more
higher
elevated.
If
people
can't
evacuate
they're
going
to
be
safer,
where
they're
at
in
place
so
I
realize.
Obviously,
we
want
people
to
evacuate
if
they
can
evacuate,
but
there's
always
people
that
aren't
going
to,
and
so
this
only
strengthens
those
multi-family
developments
to
flood
and
when
born
debris,
it
makes
them
less
vulnerable
to
it.
N
So
I
don't
know
how
that's
frankly,
a
bad
thing
at
this
point.
If
we
want
to
look
bigger-
and
it
also
requires
those
resiliency
measures,
so
if
the
power
is
out
there
are
things
like
you
know.
If
those
resiliency
measures
are
put
in
place,
it
might
make
things
a
little
more
comfortable
while
we're
in
a
recovery,
and
so
that's
that's
the
that's.
The
intent
did
that
help
you
well.
P
I'm
trying
to
get
your
take
on
it,
so
so
you're
saying
something
is
better
than
nothing
but
I'm
hearing
just
so
much
that
I'm
trying
to
think
whether
we
should
possibly
do
this
in
a
workshop
where
everybody
gets
to
put
their
input
in
and
we
can
get
to
where
we
can
fine-tune
this.
Otherwise,
this
type
of
of
item
could
just
continue
to
be
kicked
down.
P
The
road
for
I,
don't
know
how
long
so
I
mean
I
I'd
be
in
favor
of
moving
it
ahead
tonight,
but
not
with
you
know,
but
knowing
that
I
want
to
change
certain
things
and
I
know
that
other
Commissioners
want
to
change
other
things.
So
that's
where
sure
that's
where
I'm
at.
L
B
Vincent,
let
me
let
me
try
and
kind
of
Whittle
away
at
this
a
little
bit.
I
know
what
you're
saying
I
I
had
a
letter
today
and
I
looked
and
you
were
copied
on
it,
but
it
wasn't
an
email.
It
was
from
the
county
concerning
some
new
county-wide
land
use,
changes
or
I'm.
Sorry,
county-wide.
B
All
right,
I
know
they're,
proposing
those
it
didn't
have
the
language
it
had
the
ordinance
and
was
asking
us
to
take
a
look
at
it,
okay
and
so,
but
let
me
get
back
to
that
point:
how
does
this
ordinance
mesh
with
our
current
Coastal,
High
Hazard
area
or
comprehensive
plan
that
addresses
that?
Does
this
fit
with
that,
or
are
we
going
to
have
to
change
some
of
the
the
it
fits
with
that,
then.
N
In
fact,
one
of
the,
if
you
recall
the
Amendments,
that
we
that
the
board
adopted
several
months
ago,
we
amended
the
future
land
use
and
the
coastal
elements
of
the
co
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
addressing
some
of
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
concerns
and
strengthening
it.
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
reference
in
there
was
the
need
for.
I
N
Hazard
area
design
requirements,
so
it's
really
already
kind
of
comp
plan.
We
got
a
little
bit
of
a
head
and
which
is
ideal.
So
no
there's
no
conflict
with
our
comp
plan.
Definitely,
okay,.
B
So
basically,
I
agree
with
you
completely
that
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
is
better
than
what
we
have
on
the
books
right
now
and
I
also
appreciate,
because
there's
been
some
brief,
sound
bites
between
us
and
the
city
manager
myself
concerning
the
state
law,
the
new
state
law-
that's
going
to
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
some
of
these
developments
to
move
in
with
not
a
whole
lot
of
say
of
what
this
commissioner,
what
this
commission
has
as
far
as
comments,
so
I
really
think
that
we've
got
three
choices
given
where
we
are
right
now,
with
our
current
ordinance.
B
What
we
have
is
better
than
our
coordinates
at
least
moves
it
in
the
right
direction
and
the
the
only
other
choice
is
to
moratorium
on
the
call
for
construction,
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area.
Until
we
get
this
thing
complete,
that's
those
are
the
choices.
I
see
my
preference
would
be
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
this
thing,
given
that
it's
better
than
what
we've
got
I
agree
also
with
vice
mayor
Lund's,
comment
that
I
don't
think
developers
should
be
able
to
buy
their
way
out
of
things
when
it
comes
to
Public
Safety.
B
So
whatever
we
decide
to
do,
if
we
go
forward
with
this
version
of
it,
in
addition
to
what
your
recommendations
are
Ms
car
dash
is,
I
would
like
to
make
those
Provisions
taken
out
that
they
can
buy
and
buy
them,
buy
their
way
out
of
not
being
able
to
satisfy
some
safety
requirement,
at
least
in
in
the
near
term.
Now
you
know
that's,
given
that
this
is
the
first
step
in
what
we're
doing
I
agree
with
you
that
we
should
revisit
this
again,
maybe
in
a
little
more
less.
L
B
Tonight,
sort
of
thing,
I'm
not
sure,
I'd
like
to
do
a
workshop,
but
we've
got
so
many
things
right
now
lined
up
and
and
that
in
the
next
three
or
four
months
that
I
don't
know
that
we
would
be
able
to
get
to
it,
but
I'd
like
to
ask
actually
once
we
get
if
we
get
this
thing
forward.
Actually
you
know
continue
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Have
conversations
with
the
planning
department
see
where
we
would
need
to
go
to
make
it
even
better
than
what
we
would
have
tonight.
B
So
that's
my
recommendation
is
to
to
adopt
what
we
have
tonight
as
a
first
reading.
Ms
Kardashian
look
at
it
from
whether
we
need
to
do
another
first.
First,
with
pulling
that
resolution
into
the
those
requirements
into
the
ordinance
also
eliminate
any
ability
for
a
developer
to
buy
out
of
the
in
any
requirements
that
he
has
to
do
with
regard
to
Public
Safety
Ms
Kardash.
Your
light
is
on.
D
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
There
was
one
additional
item
that
vice
mayor
Lunt
had
spoken
about,
which
was
the
review
by
Pinellas
County,
Emergency,
Management,
Department
and
Ms
Vincent.
My
understanding
is
that
really
what
you're
trying
to
achieve
there
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
concurrence
between
the
county-wide
Emergency
Management
plan
and
the
the
facilities,
essentially
as
as
their
design,
is
that.
N
Correct
correct
I
mean
whether
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
Pinellas
County
has
the
umbrella
for
shelter
management
for
the
entire
County,
including
all
the
municipalities.
So
I
fully
understand
that
you
know
we
want
a
shelter
here,
finding
a
place
for
a
shelter
here
that
works
for
Pinellas
County
is
really
challenging,
but
they
also
you
know.
N
They
also
are
the
Arbiter
of
of
of
the
methodology
and
making
sure
that
when
someone
gives
us
a
mitigation
study
that
it
comports
with
how
they
how
they
conduct
their
shelter
needs
analysis,
so
you
know
I
I
would
like
and,
and
frankly
they
are
more
than
a
they.
They
want
to
be
involved
in
these.
They
they
really
do.
It
can
slow
up
so
slow
project
down.
But
that's
you
know
to
get
the
you
know.
The
right
mitigation
effort
is
that's
okay,
so.
D
Yes,
so
my
question,
then,
is
what
is
in
place,
then
that
gives
them
the
authority
to
review
or
weigh
in
on
the
cities,
development
plan
or
development
permits
or
development
regulations.
I
just
I
don't
see
that
they
have
that
number
one
I
don't
see
that
they
have
that
legal
Authority
number
two.
If
we
were
going
to
do
something
like
that
and
include
them
in
this,
then
I
would
want
some
sort
of
interlocal
that
would
provide
for
that
review
with
the
terms
of
that
review
is
how
soon
they
have
like.
You
said.
D
You
know
when
they're
going
to
turn
that
around
to
us,
because
then
you're
talking
about
developers,
rights
in
terms
of
the
time
that
they
have
for
the
processing
of
their
applications
to
the
city.
So
that's
a
concern
for
me
with
having
another
agency
that
doesn't
have
another
legal
right
or
authority
to
do
that.
Reviewing
our
development
plans.
N
We
have
we
have
language
policies
in
our
comp
plan
that
require
us
to
allow
Pinellas
County
as
an
affected
jurisdiction
to
review
things
that
are
so
if
it's
their
road,
if
they're,
because
inherently
they
are
the
ones
that
have
to
provide
shelter
for
the
entire
County,
okay
I
think
we
have
that
ability
under
our
comp
plan
to
say
yes,
please
review
this
I
understand,
tightening
that
up.
Okay,.
D
Then
my
other
question,
though,
is
whether
or
not
there
is
the
ability
for
staff
to
actually
review
and
provide
the
opinion
regarding
concurrence
with
the
Pinellas
County
plan.
N
D
Whole
you
could,
you
could
do
the
technical
Review,
Committee
I
know.
Currently,
Mark
is
your
emergency
manager,
so
you
could
have
your
emergency
manager
sign
off
on
that
opinion
or
you
can
have
staff
in
the
form
of
the
TRC.
So
you
have
multiple
staff
members
that
are
having
eyes
on
it
and
providing
that
opinion
through
your
technical,
Review
Committee
or
somebody
like
yourself
or
you
know
your
building
official
or
your
floodplain
manager.
That's
credentialed
in
this
area.
B
D
Could
be
you
know,
it
would
just
be
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
request
that
Amendment
in
the
form
of
your
motion.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
so
are
there
any
other
comments,
because
I'd
like
to
move
the
meeting
forward?
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
this
ordinance
with
some
conditions,
or
at
least
some
some
additions
to
just
the
approval
process,
and
is
there
anybody
that
would
like
to
make
a
motion
I.
D
So,
just
to
be
clear,
the
motion
is
to
approve
ordinance
2022-24,
subject
to
the
amendment,
to
include
the
mitigation
measures
from
the
ordinance
back
into
the
or
from
the
resolution
back
into
the
ordinance
and
to
revise
the
review
by
the
Pinellas
County
Emergency
Management
Department,
to
have
it
in-house
by
staff.
D
B
Roll
call,
please
wait
a
minute,
commissioner.
Vice.
B
R
R
B
Happen
it
in
in
you
know
and
you're
right
and
that's
a
matter
of
priorities.
In
other
words,
if
this
workshop's
more
important
than
something
else
that
has
been
discussed,
then
this
would
take
a
priority
over
that
I
agree,
and
that
would
some
be
something
that
we
could
City.
Imagine
could
come
back
to
you
with
asking
some
guidance
on.
This
is
what
I've
got
a
b
c
and
d,
which
one
do
you
want
done
first
and
we'll
go
from
there?
Is
that?
Okay,
yes,.
W
O
O
J
D
For
well,
first
I
have
to
read
it
by
title
and
the
the
motion
would
be
to
deny
okay
Okay
resolution
2023-26
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida
to
adopt
the
Tarpon
Springs
Coastal
High
Hazard
area
mitigated
measures
for
new
construction,
providing
for
the
pre-approved
options
for
mitigation
of
new
construction
in
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area
chha
pursuant
to
article
9
development
standards,
section
149.01,
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
area
design,
standards
providing
for
severability,
providing
for
reference
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
resolution.
D
And
you
can
either
do
it
in
the
positive
as
a
motion
to
include
that
into
the
ordinance.
C
U
Fear
to
lack
of
514
Ashland
Avenue
I
would
like
to
commend
the
board
for
the
Amendments
that
they
made
to
the
previous
ordinance
that
does
satisfy
this.
As
it
was
pointed
out,
this
is
this
first
step,
so
it
gives
you
a
chance
to
at
least
strengthen
the
rules
for
these
areas
and
then
at
the
next
Point.
U
You
can
at
some
point,
revise
these
things
and
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
listen
to
the
attorney
and
staff
and
the
best
way
to
handle
this
and
again
it's
your
buddies
up
in
Tallahassee
that
keep
passing
these
laws
that
restrict
our
home
rule
and
force
things
down
our
throats
in
unfunded
mandate.
Wake
up!
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
D
That
was
a
motion
to
approve.
Is
the
motion
to
add
the
resolution
to
the
ordinance.
D
M
M
D
B
J
P
B
Of
course,
yeah:
that's:
okay,
all
right
item,
16
ordinance,
2023-08
application,
22-115
Land,
Development
code
fees
and
charges;
Ms
Kardash.
If
he
could
read
that
by
ordinance
some
by
title,
please
thank.
N
Previously
we
discussed
with
the
board
during
a
budget
cycle
the
board
that
basically,
the
city
has
been
absorbing
the
cost
for
storm
water
and
utility
reviews
for
years
and
up
to
and
including
paying
our
private
stormwater
Consultants
when
we're
reviewing
site
plans
and
developer
projects,
and
so
you
did
provide
direction
that
we
wanted
to
Shore
that
up
and
at
least
recoup
some
of
those
costs
that
have
been
by
way
of
creating
a
storm
water
review,
fee
utility
review
fees
and
then
any
other
fees,
Associated
fees
that
are
kind
of
out
of
the
ordinary.
N
So
that's
what's
being
proposed
with
this
ordinance,
so
this
would
update
sections
246
and
247
and
it
establishes
new
new
fees
in
addition
to
what
we
already
have
for.
So
when
a
site
plan
comes
in
for
review.
In
addition
to
our
normal
site
plan
review
fee,
there
will
also
be
a
you
know:
a
requisite
stormwater
review
fee
and
then
it
also
provides
for
when
things
we
get
resubmittals,
so
it
really
kind
of
incentivizes
the
developer
to
get
it
right.
N
The
first
time
you're
not
going
to
get
multiple
reviews
on
on
the
city
dime,
where
we
have
to
pay
our
stormwater
Engineers
of
Records.
So
that's
the
basis
for
this.
Hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
it,
I'm
not
going
to
go
line
by
line
through
all
the
proposed
changes.
We
do
have
a
kind
of
a
catch-all
for
all
other
city,
engineer
and
engineer
record
review
services.
So
if
we're
in
a
major
case
and
we've
got
to
hire
an
outside
Transportation
consultant
to
review
something
to
get
a
peer
review,
we
would
we
have.
N
We
have
built.
We've
tried
to
accommodate
everything.
I
do
know
that
the
mayor
did
bring
up
a
question
regarding,
since
we
don't
have
the
ability
we,
as
staff
cannot
meet
like
with
effort
with
our
technical
Review
Committee.
If
the
developer's
attorney
is
present,
we
need
to
have
an
attorney
present
representing
us.
N
So
I
think
your
question
mayor
was:
is
there
a
way
to
incorporate
the
cost
of
that
to
having
our
attorney
at
a
technical,
Review,
Committee
I
think
we
can
work
that
in
between
first
and
second
readings,
as
as
another,
just
another
line
item
on
the
ver
on
the
first
table
yeah
and
to
cover
that
cost.
So,
but
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions.
We
did
get
input
from
our
Engineers
of
record
on
developing
the
fees,
a
lot
of
us
largely
modeled
after
Hillsborough
County.
N
But
and
again
this
is
the
first.
This
is
a
first
go
around
for
us,
so
this
may
be
something
that,
as
we
start
evaluating
and
how
we're
recouping
you
know,
those
costs
is
it
are
those
are
those
charges
right?
We
also
our
engineers
and
health
reviewed
it
as
well.
For
you
know,
what's
a
reasonable
fee
on,
you
know
to
review
a
sheet
on
a
on
a
plan
set,
so
our
Engineers
really
know
they
know
what
that
cost
is
as
well
in
the
private
sector.
N
F
Junior
Georgia
Avenue
Palm
Harbor
I
just
received
my
trim
notice
from
the
county
regarding
my
property
taxes
and
in
there
was
a
a
non-adv
valorem
assessment
regarding
storm
water
potential.
F
Upcoming
development
practices
in
with
that
trim
notice,
was
a
little
flyer
that
suggested
that
my
title
to
my
property
may
be
subjective
to
such
development
practices
to
include
stormwater
vaults
that
possibly
may
be
placed
underneath
our
driveways,
that
will
be
a
privatized,
storm
water
contrivance
to
pump
excess
rain
water
and
so
forth,
and
water
coffins.
If
you
will
underneath
our
driveways
water
vaults
now,
should
this
development
practice
be
privatized,
will
these
charges
be
levied
against
the
equity
of
my
home
and
when
I
go
to
sell?
F
L
L
B
Okay:
let's
go
to
commission
comments.
Any
commission
comments
on
questions
on
this
item
from
Ms
Vincent
vice
mayor
Alone,.
R
Just
a
a
small
little
question
Renee
if,
like
always
I'm
totally
fine
with
the
charges,
Etc
and
I'm
sure
staff
has
has
gone
over
them
and
I'm
in
no
position
to
to
question
any
of
them.
However,
the
fourth,
whereas
in
this
ordinance,
says
the
City
previously
established
a
new
review
fee
for
temporary
mobile
food
vendors
is
was
that
to
provide
precedence?
Do
we
need
to
fit
a
number
of
warehouses
on
the
ordinance
or.
N
No,
it's
just
it's
because
it
it's
it's,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
there,
but
again,
when
I
do
whereas
clauses
I
like
to
provide
the
rationale
behind
why
some
things
are
included
in
this
particular
set
of
ordinances.
When
we
updated
the
Mobile
Food
Truck
ordinance
several
months
ago,
we
specifically
required
a
permit
fee
to
be
25
of.
N
P
Patronizer,
thank
you
mayor.
Could
we
put
in
a
another
line
that
says
for
100
of
the
course
for
any
legal,
incurring
that
we
have
beside
the
fact
we
could
put
something
in
here
that
just
has
anything
unbeknownst
to
us
any
outside,
because
things
do
come
up
and
you
know
we
shouldn't
be
responsible
for
those.
P
N
That's
what
I
would
like
to
do
and
I
think
we
can
actually
probably
add
that
to
the
first
table,
the
241
24601
Which
is
less
it's
it's
for
fees
and
services.
It's
not
specific
to
the
drainage.
You
know
to
the
engineer
of
record
stuff,
so
I
think
we
can
add
it
to
the
end
of
end
of
table
that
first
table
in
the
ordinance,
especially.
P
If
you
don't
know
whether
there's
going
to
be
legal
representation
or
not,
or
whether
there's
going
to
be
any
other
outside
Consultants
or
not
right,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
covered.
If
we're
going
to
do
this,
make
sure
we
have
the
umbrella.
B
Okay,
anybody
else
commissioneros,
commissioneros;
okay,
if
not
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance.
2023-08
application,
22-115
Land,
Development
code
fees,
charges
so
moved
with.
J
K
I
B
B
L
D
And
just
for
the
record,
the
this
was
first
reading.
The
second
reading
will
be
held
on
September
19th
2023
and
was
published
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
by
title
only
on
August,
2nd
2023
and
then
tomorrow,
September
6,
2023.
B
D
You
mayor
ordinance,
number
2023-09,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code
sections,
82
final
development
plan,
review,
210.05
site
plans,
expirations
and
extensions
and
section
241
definitions
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
first
reading.
D
L
N
Thank
you.
This
is
ordinance
2023-09.
This
ordinance
addresses
some
very
old
and
problematic
regulations
regarding
how
things
certain
development
orders
expire
in
Our,
Land
Development
code.
So
in
the
past
final
plan
developments
site
plans,
for
you
know
any
development
the
the
expirations
were
tied
to
applying
for
a
building
permit,
not
obtaining
a
building
permit
applying
for
building
permit,
and
then
it's
very
silent
after
that.
As
to
what
happens
so,
does
that
mean
once
I
apply?
It
goes
into
suspense
forever.
N
That's
the
current
interpretation,
so
this
ordinance
updates
the
Land
Development
code
for
final
plan
developments
that
they
must
approve
boc
approval
within
one
year
of
preliminary
plan
development
approval.
So
that's
another
place
where
we
have
you
get
preliminary
plan
and
then
it
can
be
two
three
years
in
constant.
You
know
review
and
not
actually
getting
that
final
plan
development
approved.
So
that
was
a
change
once
the
final
plan.
N
Development
is
approved
that
the
building
permit
for
construction
has
to
be
obtained
within
two
years
of
final
plan:
development
approval
and
that's
obtaining
the
bill,
the
actual
site,
construction
or
building
permits
and
then
site
plan.
Construction
must
be
obtained
within
one
year
and
we
do
provide
for
an
extension
period
if
they've
applied
for
the
building
permit
and
they've
kept
it
active
and
they're
reviewing
it.
You
can
request
an
extension
of
an
additional
year
and
we
also
updated
some
definitions.
N
A
A
A
Area
you
know
you
want
to
make
sure
that
whoever
already
has
some
sort
of
a
development
agreement
is
going
to
be
current
with
what
you
guys
agree
to
for
that.
It's
not
going
to
do
the
human
beings
any
good
that
live
in
those
dwellings
that
were
approved.
If
you
know-
and
you
know
where
this
is
going-
they
just
approved.
C
A
Name,
storm
already,
I
think
it's
Irene
or
something
no,
it's
I
forgot
the
name
of
it
already,
but
it's
the
next
letter
in
the
alphabet
or
whatever
so
there's
a
storm
coming
all
right.
So
that's
important
that
you
address
that,
but
this
also
needed
to
be
buttoned
up.
For
the
same
reasons,
I
mean
the
the
problems
we
went
on
with
Walmart
were
going
to
be
dealing
with
with
the
Morgan
group,
obviously
and
they're,
going
to
try
to
pretend
that
this
doesn't
exist,
their
grandfathered
in
and
all
that
nonsense.
A
It's
not
mine,
it's
something
about
the
ACLU,
though
very
interesting
I
must
have
manifested
it
out
of
thin
air.
Just
by
speaking
about
these
things,
so
I
won't
belabor
the
point.
Thank
you
for
fixing
this
and
again
we're
talking
about
saving
lives
here.
It's
not
just
about
you
know,
making
a
developer
jump
through
more
hoops
doing
this
stuff
for
a
reason
if
they
can't
get
their
stuff
built
in
a
timely
manner,
they
want
to
try
to
pretend
that
they
can
still
do
it.
A
The
way
it
was
before
they
got
to
be
held
to
current
standards
for
a
reason,
save
human
lives.
That's
what
this
is
all
about.
That's
what
you
guys
are
supposed
to
be
doing
just
be
working
for
the
people
to
save
human
lives,
not
to
be
working
for
Developers
it
just
doesn't
you
know
it's
not
the
way.
It's
supposed
to
work
this
way
it
was
working
for
a
very
long
time
and
that
didn't
work
out
so
good.
A
Some
people,
anyways
I,
think
you
understand
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
even
though
I'm
not
being
very
articulate
right
now,
tropical
storm
Lee.
Thank
you.
Tropical
storm
Lee!
It's
headed
to
the
East
Coast
United,
States
I,
don't
know
exactly
where
it's
going
so
again.
These
things
that
you
are
deciding
on
and
thank
you
vice
mayor
for
expressing
how
urgent
it
is
that
you
I
mean
we
got
to
get
that
done.
A
B
U
Let's
get
to
some
things
here
on
the
board
that
Renee
has
up
there
on
page
two
where
it
says
site
plan
construction.
Permit
says
it
came
within
one
year
by
plan
construction
should
that
be
by
plan
approval
now
on
page
five
down
at
the
bottom
it
on
under
e.
U
So
you
have
one
thing
saying
one
and
then
another
saying
too
so
I'm
a
little
confused
there
if
that
could
be
clarified,
but
I
really
want
to
get
down
to
page
seven
under
definitions
where
it
talks
about
building
permit,
and
then
you
specifically
have
here
tree
removal
permits,
clearing
and
grubbing
permits.
Dock
permits
and
dredge
still
permits
are
not
considered.
Building
permits
for
the
purpose
of
meeting
expiration
deadlines
associated
with
proof
conditional
uses,
site
plans,
plan
developments,
difficult
development
orders,
building
permits
to
expire
importance
with
the
requirements
of
Florida
statute
Lauren.
U
My
question
will
be:
is
why
are
these
being
excluded
and
secondly,
normally
some
of
these
things
have
to
be
required
before
these
can
start
any
building.
So
to
me,
there's
you
know:
I
I
I'd
like
to
see
a
real
good
explanation
why
these
permits
are
not
considered
under
those
time
frames,
but
otherwise
I
appreciate
the
fact
you're
cleaning
these
things
up,
they
do
need
to
be
specific
timelines
and
I.
Thank
you,
Renee
for
all
your
hard
work
and
appreciate
the
board.
U
B
You
Mr
jump
any
other
comments.
B
R
Excuse
me
under
Section
e,
it
says
unless
amazing
plan
is
specifically
approved,
but
unless
a
phasing
plan,
that's
specifically
approved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
the
applicant
has-
and
one
year
has
been
struck
out
and
two
years
have
been
inserted
from
the
date
of
approval,
to
apply
or
or
rather
to
obtain,
a
construction
permit
or
building
permit
it's
too
long.
Six
months
they
had
six
months
to
obtain.
With
the
six
month
succession
hi.
I
R
I
mean
we
live
in
a
tolling
state,
which
means
every
time
our
delightful
Governor
or
we
have
a
blow
up
somewhere.
It
gets
another
six
months
added
on,
and
this
happens
every
year,
sometimes
twice
a
year
as
as
I,
recollect
and
I
think
almost
three
times
one
year
because
of
covet.
This
is
just
the
fact
of
the
states
that
we
live
in
a
two-year
period
can
be
extended
to
two
and
a
half
to
three
to
three
and
a
half
to
four
and
five
they
could
be.
R
D
Mayor
if
I
may,
there
was
one
item
in
here
where
it
does
have
it
coming
back
to
the
commission
for
a
reasonable
cause,
when
there
is
a
request
for
an
extension
of
the
building
permit
and
I
think
that
for
the
first
go-round
it
would
be
more
appropriate
for
staff
or
you're
building
officials
specifically
to
Grant
those
types
of
extensions
for
good
cause,
rather
than
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
D
You
know
what
Vice
Maryland
said
is
very
accurate
in
terms
of
there
being
a
lot
of
extensions
because
of
Declarations
of
state
of
emergencies
that
do
toll
the
time
for
permits
and
can
extend
permits
and
development
order
dates
pursuant
to
state
law
and
state
statute.
So
that
is
actually
a
very
a
very
real
thing
that
happens
quite
often.
L
B
B
Decision
for
this
right,
I
understand
yeah.
Okay,
any
other
comments,
because
I've
got
I've
got
one
or
two.
P
Go
ahead,
whatever
your
name
is:
okay,
I'll
answer
anything
I
could
see
your
point
vice
mayor,
so
I
would
agree
with
you
with
the
six
months
and
then
we
could
look
to
see
about
having
either
the
permit
department
if
there's
extenuating
circumstances
extending
it,
because
we
do
get
two
three
hurricanes
a
year.
P
What
Mr
brovsky
brought
up
just
now
I
mean
I,
went
to
look
it's
it's
a
tropical
storm
with
145
mile
an
hour
winds,
that's
going
to
grow
into
a
massive.
You
know
storm,
which
is
what
they're
predicting
and
that's
going
to
extend
time
every
which
way
to
Sunday.
So
I
would
be
considering
that
six
months
as
well.
N
B
B
I
in
in
our
development
orders,
we've
been
fairly
con.
We've
been
consistent
not
fairly
consistent,
consistent
that
we
we
add
that
provision
at
the
end
that
all
the
permits
have
I,
don't
recall
the
exact
language,
but
basically
all
the
permits
have
to
have
to
be
in
hand
before
we
issue
a
permit.
Is
that
correct?
We.
N
Have
done
that
for
specifically
with
plan
developments
but
as
I
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
attorney
here
about
whether
or
not
we
have
the
ability
under
State
Statute
to
impose
that
right.
D
There
there
is
a
provision
of
state
law
that
says
that
a
local
government
cannot
withhold
its
permits
based
on
another
jurisdictions,
failure
or
not
having
those
permits
issued
from
another
jurisdiction
that
has
concurrent
ability
to
issue
a
permit.
You
know
a
lot
of
times.
It
can
be
f-dot,
it
can
be
yeah,
Pinellas
County,
so
so
there's
other
agencies
that
can
have
concurrent
jurisdiction
to
issue
permits.
We
can't
base
our
issuance
of
a
permit
on
what
those
other
jurisdictions
are
doing,
because
essentially
they're
different
standards
and
that's
pursuant
to
Florida
Florida
statute.
L
N
Ordinances
for
plan
developments
and
we
have
conditions
of
approval,
especially
on
preliminary
plan
developments
before
they
get
to
final.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
in
the
past,
put
conditions
that
said
you
must
have.
You
know
your
Swift
Mud
permits
and
things
like
that,
they're
to
a
degree
they're
somewhat
negotiated
because
they're
these
planned
developments
for
so
I.
Think
under
that,
under
that
plan
development
process,
that's
a
little
different
than
your
straight
site
plan
permitted
use
by
right.
You
know:
meet
the
Land
Development
code,
get
your
permits
and
go
I.
N
N
N
That
means
you're
going
to
submit
it.
It's
going
to
go
through
our
building
department,
all
these
different
departments
that
review
them
for
everything
and
there's
only
six
months.
So
that's
also
putting
a
burden
on
staff
to
timely
turn.
These
things
around.
So
unless
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
tease
apart
the
the
process
and
that
that
that
makes
me
you
know,
six
months
makes
me
very
uncomfortable
I
would
at
least
go
with
a
year
but
I.
You
know
we
have
things
that
we
have
to
meet
yeah.
That's.
D
D
That's
a
lot
more
pressure
than
the
six
months,
because
you
know
within
that
six
months
it
gives
you
I
think
under
State
Statute
from
the
time
you
receive
the
application.
What
like
180
days,
I
know
you
can
go
back
three
times
at
basically
like
30
30
days,
a
pop
right
back
and
forth,
and
that's
about.
N
We
can
go
over
six
you're.
The
policy
makers,
commissioner,.
I
I
D
So
that's
part
of
the
impetus
and
and
where
you're
going
to
put
that
pressure
and
what
you
want
to
decide
is
your
policy
as
a
city
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you
want
these
developers
to
come
to
you
when
they're
ready
to
develop
and
move
their
projects
forward,
or
you
want
to
allow
for
the
the
sale
of
those
plans
to
subsequent
developers
who
may
or
may
not
follow
everything
that
was
promised
by
the
original
applicant.
That
came
before
you.
P
Something:
yes,
yes,
so
for
a
number
of
years,
I
sat
on
the
board
of
adjustments
and
people
came
before
us
and
they
they
got
a
permit
and
I
won't
mention
which
property
it
was,
but
they
just
held
on
to
it,
and
then
they
put
it
up
for
sale
and
when
they
didn't
get
a
buyer,
they
came
back
to
us
again
to
to
readdress
which
fine,
but
the
kind
of
excuses
that
you
got
for.
Why
it
wasn't
why
it
didn't
go
forward.
It
wound
up
failing
for
that.
P
The
developer
that's
coming
in
to
do
work
here
and
if
we
have
to
extend
it
because
we
can't
meet
there
there
should
you
know
that
that
just
happens.
There's
there's
no.
Two
ways
about
that,
but
we
we
have
our
feet
to
the
fire
with
the
30
days.
Oh
yes,
so
you
know
to
me:
I
am
I
am
for
the
six
month
and
if
there's
extenuating
circumstances
it
could
always
be
changed.
That's
all
I
want
to
say.
O
We
talk
about
this
30-day
rule
with
you
know,
went
for
permit
to
get
issued
and
at
times
we
we
go
beyond
30
days,
I'm
telling
you
developers
right
now,
they're
they're,
going
to
hold
the
city
staff
the
feet
to
the
fire,
if
they're
not
getting
their
documents
within
30
days
and
that's
something
I'm
concerned
about
Russian
city
staff,
although
they
do
have
obligations
to
meet
within
a
certain
amount
of
time.
L
B
R
You
know
it's
six
months,
plus
an
extension
of
six
months
so
that
that
is
a
year.
What
we're
saying
here
is
we're
going
to
limit
that
time
frame
to
a
year
rather
than
start
off
with
the
year
and
then
have
another
extension
and
a
toll
and
and
so
forth,
so
I
don't
see
where
six
months
is
putting.
We
have
to
react
in
30
days.
In
certain
cases,
certainly
the
developer
should
be
ready
to
go
within
six
months.
It's.
R
B
There's
no
further
comments,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion,
and
this
would
be
for
approving
ordinance
2023-09
and
to
add
any
changes
that
you
would
want
amendments
to
that
ordinance
for
this
for
the
second
reading.
P
Sixth
month
that
they,
the
developer,
has
to
be
ready
to
have
a
permit.
D
Then,
were
you
looking
also
to
revise
so
that
your
staff
grants
the
extent
extension?
Yes,
okay,.
B
Gonna
have
MS
Kardash,
read
the
motion
to
make
sure
it's
clear,
that's
why
this
is
something
that
we
can't
be
General
about
as
far
as
to
six
months.
Is
there
any
let's
hear
what
the
commissioner
eisner's
motion
is
through
Mrs
kardash's
words
and
then
we'll
see
if
we'll
get
a
second
to
that.
D
O
Yeah
I
think
we're
micromanaging
I
think
we're
using
our
power
to
try
to
force
development
sooner
than
later
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
move.
I
think
one
year
is
more
than
enough
time
with
what
we
got
going
on
six
months
is
rushing
our
staff,
which
we
know
there's
issues
with
with
permitting
at
times
it's
putting
a
lot
of
stress
on
them
and
who
you
know
here
we
are
telling
developers
and
in
town
it's
time
to
speed
things
up.
O
K
Our
just
for
clarification
use
the
six
months
is
the
final
plan.
Development
approval
obtained
boc
approval
within
one
year,
that's
what's
being
switched
to
six
months
or
the
obtain
within
two
years
of
final
planned.
That's
what's
being
changed
to
six
months.
The
two
years
is
going
to
six
months.
Correct
I.
Think
that's
too
short.
K
B
What
so,
basically,
it's
not
an
easy
choice,
but
quite
frankly,
this
is
the
first
reading.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
in
my
opinion,
we
could
turn
it
down
and
then,
if
we
just
if
we
turn
this
ordinance
down,
then
basically
we
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
again.
Is
that
correct?
We
have
nothing.
B
Okay,
that's
right!
So
that's
our
choices
we
can
do.
We
can
approve
this
one
entertain.
A
second
motion
we
can
take
time
between
if
this
is
approved
between
this
and
the
second
reading,
to
have
conversations
with
the
city
manager,
Ms
Vincent,
to
try
and
recalibrate
everybody's
thinking
on
that.
So
let's,
let's
just
make
a
decision
here.
We've
got
a
motion
and
a
second.
If
there's
no
further
I
I
would
be
interested
in
hearing
a
little
more
about
the
six
months
myself.
But
if
there's
no
further
comments,
roll
call
please.
B
B
Item
18
ordinance,
2023-20
yard,
waste
collection
procedures
and
fees
same
answer
to
the
course.
B
I'm,
just
getting
a
little
late
for
me,
Ms
Kardash,
if
he
could
read
the
ordinance
by
title.
Thank.
D
You
mayor
ordinance,
number
2023-20,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
amending
portions
of
chapter
8
of
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
eliminating
plastic
bags
as
allowable
containers
for
collection
of
yard,
waste,
increasing
the
fees
for
yard
waste
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
first
reading.
The
second
reading
will
be
held
on
September
19th
2023
and
will
be
published
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
by
title.
Only
on
September
6
2023.
M
X
Evening
everybody
polar
works
department
is
implementing
an
environmentally
sustainable
initiative
to
reduce
the
waste
Save
Somebody
and
provide
educational
Outreach
to
residents
on
proper
yard
waste
disposable
procedures.
The
city
driveways
facility
Reserve,
receives
approximately
208
tons
of
yard
waste
monthly.
A
bunch
of
is
bagged
in
plastic
non-compostable
garbage
bags.
As
a
result,
the
yard
waste
cannot
be
processed
as
regular,
regular
yard
waste
is
our
unbag
stuff.
X
Approval
of
this
amendment
will
reduce
waste,
eliminate
the
use
of
plastic
bags
for
yard
waste.
Save
of
course,
save
us
some
money
and
be
a
much
more
environmentally
sustainable
solution
proposed
changes.
The
proposed
changes
except
yard
waste,
including
yard
clippings
grass
cuttings,
leaves
shrubs
palm
fronds
small
tree
limbs
not
exceeding
four
inches
in
a
diameter
or
over
four
feet
in
length
shall
be
collected
in
30
gallon
paper
yard.
Waste
bags
are
placed
Loosely
in
a
30
gallon
reusable
tote.
X
Plastic
bags
will
not
be
collected
for
yard
waste
disposal,
nor
accepted
at
the
city
or
Tarpon
Springs
yard
waste
facility
at
101,
East,
Mears,
Boulevard
you'll
also
see
changes
to
fees
which
are
reflected
in
the
ordinance
which
have
not
been
increased
since
2007..
Now,
there's
two
spots
of
this
ordinance
over
here.
The
first
part
of
the
ordinance
will
be
approved
will
be
beginning
in
this
October
1st
of
23
and
section
5,
which
has
to
do
with
the
bags
would
be
in
effect,
December
1st
2023.
B
C
U
Here
to
watch
514
Ashland
Avenue
I
would
like
to
applaud
the
public
works
department
for
moving
forward
on
this.
This
has
long
been
overdue.
The
important
thing
here,
though,
is
education
getting
word
out
to
the
public
and.
I
U
Again,
this.
U
We
need
to
use
our
media
as
a
way
to
broadcast
this
out,
put
out
a
new,
a
new,
a
little
blurb
on
the
city's
TV
channel
and
maybe
put
something
also
on
the
radio
station.
1610,
that's
underutilized,
but
the
important
thing
is
getting
the
word
out
to
people
I
just
heard.
Tom
say
it
won't
be
in
effect
till
December
of
23,
so
I'm
not
sure
why
it
can't
go
into
effect
sooner.
Maybe
that
can
be
answered,
but
it
does
need
to
be
correctified
because
we
have
a
problem
as
excuse
me.
U
Tom
has
mentioned
where
you're
having
contaminated
yard
waste
and
that's
the
same
thing
also
in
the
contaminated
recycling.
So
we
really
need
to
get
the
word
out
about
how
to
improve
our
recycling
Cycles
such
that
we
are
not
throwing
more
into
the
regular
landfill.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
B
Okay,
Mr
jump
anyone
else.
P
Just
quickly,
we
do
need
to
get
out
of
the
message,
because
I
did
look
this
up
and
the
compostable
bags
are
very
easy
to
come
by
they're
cheap
as
could
be,
and
maybe
we
could
even
have
you
know
some
sort
of
even
distribution
of
them
to
some
degree.
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
looking
for
you
to
put
them
in
every
one
of
the
water
bill.
M
Tom
kind
of
left
that
out
so
yeah.
If
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
you
left
that
plus
the
port
I'm,
the
one
who
who
extended
it
to
December
because
I
wanted
more
time,
I,
don't
think
some
people
realize
the
the
effect
of
this
change
is
going
to
be
a
bit.
So
I
thought
the
time
period
was
too
short
that
was
proposed.
I'm
the
one
who
extended
another
month
to
December
to
try
to
get
the
word
out
and
talk
about
the
program.
You're
talking
about
yeah.
X
Mark
Marcus
approval
as
purchasing
we're
going
to
be
purchasing
about
40
000
bags,
and
then
we
will
distribute
it
to
the
to
our
residents
out
here,
so
they
have
those
bags
in
beautiful.
Thank
you.
M
Just
a
transition
to
get
used
to
it
because,
as
I
know,
a
lot
of
people
that
I
know,
especially
my
age,
is
this
transition
is
not
going
to
be
an
easy
one.
So
we
want
to
give
the
time
we
wanted
to
initially
give
the
first
gesture
of
getting
them
used
to
it
and
and
then
they're
beyond
their
own.
So
that's
why
that
method,
with
the
exact
thoughts,
as
you
said,
was
why
we
we
decided
to
do
that.
Yeah.
P
It's
I
looked
at
it,
I
mean
it's
better
use,
they're,
stronger,
they're,
better
they're,
cheaper
and,
and
they
just
dissolve
so
I
mean
it's.
It's
a
plus
all
the
way
around.
So
we're
talking
about
paper
bags,
no.
I
P
B
Okay,
so
let
me
go
to
other
commissioner
comments
so
there
did
you
have
anything
else.
Okay,
any
other
commissioner
comments.
I.
R
I'm
just
glad
to
see
this
finally
kick
in
I.
Think
taking
plastic
out
of
our
Solid,
Waste
or
guardway
stream
is
the
best
thing
we
could
do.
X
Q
X
P
X
B
So
I
wouldn't
have
a
big
mess
on
my
hand.
My
only
concern
for
what
we're
doing
is
that
I
I
would
hope.
I
would
have
hoped
that
we
would
have
given
it
more
thought.
As
far
as
some
options
and
I
don't
know
what
those
are
I,
don't
think
paper.
Sacks
are
a
solution
and
from
what
I've
seen
and
I've
looked
at
Amazon
and
they're
about
40
50
percent?
B
More
expensive
on
a
per
gallon
basis
than
plastic
bags
and
I,
don't
know
whether
there's
I
do
know
that
there's
soluble
plastic
as
well
I've,
not
even
looked
at
that
and
I
just
don't
want
to.
Even
if
it's
a
two-month
period
don't
impose
going
to
plus
to
paper
bags,
given
the
circumstances
that
of
what
I
just
described,
it's
not
just
leaves
it's
twigs
and
things
where
plastic
bags
are
a
lot
more
forgiving.
B
They
they
stick
out
through
the
sides
rather
than
actually
tearing
so
I
I'm,
not
sure
I'd,
like
I
I,
don't
know
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
tonight,
just
because
I'd
like
for
there
to
be
some
more
homework
done
as
far
as
options,
city
manager
and
I
briefly
talked
about
that
I
understand
that
we
could
provide
put
leaves
in
our
own.
M
B
Basically,
if
I
had
like
even
10
bags,
I'd
have
to
go,
buy
10
trash
cans
and
fill
those
up
and
put
them
at
the
street,
and
then
I'd
have
to
be
dealing
with
10
trash
cans
at
my
house,
I
I'm,
not
sure
there
must
be
some
other
thing
that
we
can
do
that
Waste
Management
can
come
up
with
this.
Is
this?
Is
not
waste
management?
Don't
worry,
it
is
no.
X
B
X
X
You
can
use
almost
a
plastic
tote
almost
like
you
utilize
for
free
recycling
that
that
works.
Fine
I
know
it's
hard
when,
like
you
said,
people
get
10
or
15
bags
out
there,
and
if
you
know
you
can
always
sit
down
and
talk
about.
Maybe
this
is
somehow
where
we
can
change
the
process
of
picking
it
up,
maybe
add
an
additional
service
day
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
all
going
to
cost
yeah
and
the
processes,
as
you
I,
don't
know.
X
X
B
X
The
plastic
over
here
so
it
they
can't
grind
it
it
hungs
up
in
the
equipment.
So
that's
why
they
don't
grind
it
and,
of
course,
it's
very
expensive.
Even
with
that
one
time
we
did
a
while
back
this
better,
bring
the
labor
in
and
trying
to
put
the
bags
out
of
there.
But
you
just.
B
Okay,
it's
the
only
thing
it'll.
It
may
pass
that
there
aren't
a
whole
lot
of
comments
tonight,
but
I'm
not
going
to
support,
because
I
really
would
think
I
would
like
the
first
to
liquid
some
more
options
and
I.
Don't
know
I'll
even
look
at
them
myself
before
we.
We
pass
this
and
you
know
I'm,
just
not
ready
to
tell
people
that
they
need
to
use
paper
bags
to
put
their
leaves
in
there.
B
O
I
do
see
this
right
that
there's
a
potential
five
percent
increase
per
household
on
this
service
right.
We
do
have
another
item
for
the
special
consent
coming
up
about
yard
waste
to
breezel
Disposal
Services.
B
P
P
B
P
Pulling
this
up
as
we're
speaking
here
and
I'm,
just
looking
on
Amazon
there's
1.1
mil
thick,
there's
1.5
mil
thick
there's,
so
many
different
kinds
and
they
show
you
know
55
gallon
30,
gallon
I
mean
we
were
talking
about
30
gallon.
You
know
regular
garbage
bags
of
paper.
These
things
are
holding
a
lot
of
stuff,
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
can
try
and
if
it
doesn't
work,
then
it's
a
different
story.
P
M
P
B
P
Mean
I
I
was
not
in
favor
of
the
paperback
I
told
them
that
okay
matter
of
fact,
I
even
said:
can
the
person
put
it
in
a
plastic
bag,
bring
it
to
the
dump
and
then
dump
it
out
and
take
the
plastic
bag
with
them?
Because,
yes,
that
I
know
this
this
paper
bag
is
going
to
be
a
disaster.
I
know
that,
but
these
they're
they're
out
there
you
know
I
use
them
for
my
dog
as
well
they're,
just
a
lot
smaller,
but
they
are
biodegradable.
So,
okay,.
I
J
B
resolution,
2023-25
rules
of
procedure,
Ms
Kardash.
If
you
could
read
the
resolution
by
title,
please.
J
D
Media
and
I
did
go
over
this
with
vice
mayor
Lunt,
and
there
was
a
section
left
out:
posting
materials
that
could
be
construed
as
malicious
obscene
or
threatening,
or
that
might
constitute
harassment
or
bullying.
It
should
read,
is
prohibited
and
that's
in
section
c,
on
the
social
media
policy
and
then
the
second
item
that
I
discussed
with
Vice
Maryland
was
on
the
personal
devices.
D
The
legislation
is
very
clear
regarding
any
city
issued
devices
and
I
did
take
that
a
step
further,
but
I
think
that,
after
discussing
it
more
with
vice
mayor
Lunt,
that
may
not
be
necessarily
something
that
applies
to
you
all,
because
you
don't
have
the
type
of
remote
access
that
I
thought
you
did
in
terms
of
of
being
able
to
access
certain
city
databases
from
your
personal
devices.
So
as
long
as
your
only
access
is
through
city
issued
devices
that
are
going
to
be
subject
to
the
state
legislation,
we
can
remove
that
particular
provision.
I
M
And
just
to
know
mayor,
there
is
a
small
section
addition
to
allow
us
to
do
what
we're
going
to
do
next
meeting
and
change
the
meeting
meeting
due
to
the
holiday
schedule,
so
that
is
towards
the
bottom,
because
it's
lost
with
social
media
towards
the
bottom.
It's
that
ability
to
change
the
dates
of
meetings
during
the
holiday
months.
That's
the
only
that's
the
other
addition
on
this.
Oh
we
do
that
anyway,
yeah
yeah.
B
M
B
Makes
me
feel
better
sorry
if
there's
no
further
commission.
Does
any
commissioner
have
a
comment,
commissioner.
Coulianos.
K
Who,
who
who
determines
what
constitutes
malicious
obscene
or
threatening
or
harassment
or
bullying,
who
would
determine
that?
Would
we
have
a
vote
on
the
board
to.
D
Could
do
it
via
a
determination
by
the
board
if
you
were
going
to
make
a
determination
that
one
of
your
members
had
violated
your
rules
of
procedure?
Yes,
you
can
do
that
as
a
determination
of
the
board
and
essentially
really
what
your
recourse
at
that
point
in
time
would
be,
would
be
to
require
them
to
remove
it.
D
You
have
other
types
of
prohibitions
in
your
rules
of
procedures
and
you
haven't
really
developed
a
disciplined
process
as
part
of
your
rules.
I
don't
see
that
as
something
that's
necessary
at
this
point.
If
it
comes
to
a
point
where
there's
a
repeated
and
consistent
violation
of
your
rules
of
procedure,
your
rules
of
decorum
and
things
like
that
by
members
of
the
commission,
then
yes,
absolutely
I
would
recommend
putting
something
in
there
that
provides
for
a
sort
of
progressive
discipline
within
this
body,
foreign.
O
Yeah
I'm
not
going
to
support,
and
especially
this
section
c,
what's
malicious,
what's
obscene,
what's
threatening
I
mean
it
seems,
none
of
us
I
mean
we
all
have
a
different
understanding
of
what
those
terms
are.
What
frivolous
is
I
mean,
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
things
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
get
our
feelings
not
hurt
and
to
wipe
away
all
this
extra
stuff.
That's
what
needs
to
happen.
We're
bold
individuals
up
here.
O
We
chose
to
be
up
here
and
you
may
not
like
certain
points
that
are
getting
out
there
at
times,
but
that's
what
they
signed
up
for,
and
so
we
want
to
sit
there
and
get
offended.
This
looks
bad.
This
looks
bad
on
on
many
levels
and
so
I'm
just
not
going
to
support
it.
You're,
basically
trying
to
shut
up
elected
officials
because
they're
strong
points
in
which
some
are
really
strong
that
still
sit
out
there
on
you
know
unanswered
and
so
I
interrupt
here.
O
R
First
of
all,
I
think
I,
understand
that
your
commissioner
kulias's
passion
and
and
stuff
as
far
as
rhetoric
used
on
the
diocese
here,
we're
talking
about
posting,
which
is
a
somewhat
different
thing,
although
who
arbitrates
what
what
is
malicious,
obscene
or
threatening
or
constitute
harassment
or
bullying,
is
pretty
much
in
the
eye
of
beholder
but
we're
all
adults
here,
I
think
we
could
pretty
much
decide
what
that
material
might
be.
R
The
comment
I
want
to
make
is
that
that
is
a
an
orphan
sentence.
It
doesn't
have
any
attributed
anything
to
it.
All
it
says
is
posting
materials
that
could
be
construed
as
malicious
obscene
or
threatening
or
the
might
constitute
harassment
or
bullying
period
does,
it
have
say,
is
prohibited
or,
as
it
probably
should,
but
it
doesn't
have
that
statement
in
there.
R
The
other
comment
that
that
I'll
follow
up
with
that
his
car
dash
made
was
was
the
fact
that,
for
us
to
access
databases
with
our
own
devices
outside
the
city
and
to
restrict
that
access
or
to
shook
applications
on
that
particular
device,
that's
that's
not
supportable
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
R
The
the
state
government
specifically
regulates
government-owned
devices,
and
we
can
do
that
just
as
easily,
but
you
cannot
tell
a
private
citizen,
even
if
it's
a
elected
official,
that
he
has
to
remove
something
off
his
private
device
in
order
to
not
be
able
to
access
something.
It's
just
it's.
How
are
you
ever
going
to
know
it's
on
his
device?
You
can't
be
the
the
hall
monitor
for
every
device
that
ever
has
access
to
your
system.
R
It's
just
not
enforceable
and
I'm
speaking
from
the
basis
of
a
person
that
deals
with
thousands
and
thousands
of
students
every
every
day
with
private
devices,
and
it's
just
you
just
can't
do
it
if
the
devices
are
supplied
by
the
government.
Yes,
you
could
restrict
what
applications
are
on
there,
but
nobody
could
come
up
to
me
and
say:
well.
R
You
can't
have
that
on
your
device
or
you
can't
access
my
email,
which
is
an
application
or
I,
can't
access
the
public
access
to
our
database
for
the
public
access
the
database
for
commissioner
meetings
or
whatever
it's
just,
not
a
supportable
thing,
so
that
needs
to
be
struck
and
the
other
sentence
either
needs
to
be
deleted
entirely.
If
that's
the
way
the
commission
wants
to
go,
or
it
needs
to
put
some
sort
of
prohibition
on
it,
language
associated
with
it
and
that's
my
comments.
Okay,.
B
Somebody
always
tries
to
in
a
comment
spin
it
back
towards
the
city
about
something,
and
so
from
my
perspective
and
we
are
elected
officials
and
we
should
behave
accordingly
as
Mr
Cascada
said
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
meeting
and
and
sometimes
I
kind
of
wonder
about
all
of
that,
and
so
you
know
I
I'm
willing
to
support
anything
that
forces
us
into
a
and
whether
it's
you
know.
My
point
is
whether
you
interpret
it
there's
you
know
the
thing
is
you
you
always
go
to
Webster's
Dictionary.
B
There's
always
you
know
you,
you
convene
something.
We
have
a
meeting
and
decide
whether
something's,
obscene
or
or
something
I
don't
know.
But
right
now
we
don't
have
anything
and
and
I
think
that
the
social
media
thing
with
regard
to
a
lot
of
many
things
is,
is
and
quite
frankly,
I
I'm,
not
even
so
sure
that
shouldn't
even
apply
to
candidates,
although
legally
I
don't
think
you
could
do
that
to
candidates.
But
you
know
I
I,
just
I'm
willing
to
support
anything
right
now.
B
O
O
Of
order,
sir
talking
and
we
need
to
understand
point
of
order
more
and
so
definitions,
we
talk
about
definitions
and
reading
and
interpreting,
but
there's
real
life
too,
and
some
of
you
guys
don't
go
post
on
Facebook,
no
more
because
you
realize
it
doesn't
work
to
your
benefit
and
that's
why
you've
been
advised
to
stop
posting
all
in
all
and
some
have
posted
their
feelings.
The
day
after
a
meeting
an
accused
of
sabotage
and
conspiracy,
I
mean
isn't
that
threatening?
Isn't
that
malicious?
O
K
Yeah
yeah
this
this
is
so
vague
and
again,
like
commissioner
gulia
says
who,
who
determines
you
know
malicious
obscene
threatening
harassment?
I
mean
we.
You
know.
K
Legislate
or
create
ordinance
for
Behavior,
you
know
and
then
we're
going
to
have
the
board
now
politically
decide
who
should
be
reprimanded,
who
shouldn't
be
reprimanded,
I,
just
I.
Don't
like
it
and
and
you
know
we
we
come
on
everybody
posts
stuff,
you
post,
cryptic
stuff,
you
might
post
something.
Oh
some
little
cartoon
that
says
something
hey
I
could
take
that
as
harassment
I
could
take
that
as
threatening
I,
don't
care,
you
know,
I,
think
I,
don't
care
I!
Think
it's
childish!
K
Do
what
you
want,
but
I
don't
want
I,
don't
we
don't
need
these
rules
and
then
again
having
us
sit
here
and
vote?
Oh
this
guy
posted
this
I
think
it's
harassment.
Oh
just
do
three
guys
agree
with
me:
yeah!
Let's
get
that
guy
yeah,
let's
do
it!
I'm
I'm!
Just
this
is
garbage.
I
would
I'm
not
going
here.
So
you
know
you
want
to
behave.
Behave
you
don't
want
to
behave,
don't
behave!
K
I'm,
I,
I'm,
I'm,
not
I!
I,
can't
support
this.
B
B
J
B
Commissioner,
coulianos
anything
else
on
that:
okay,
Ms
Kardash.
Do
you
have
any
suggestions
based
on
what
you're
hearing.
D
K
Me
I'm
fine
with
you
know
the
database
stuff,
the
downloading
things,
the
all
that
it's
just
this
again,
these
this
part
in
C
that
I
have
a
problem
with
Okay.
So.
B
Okay,
if
there's
no
further
questions
I'm
going
to
ask
our
comment
so
when
I
ask
for
a
motion
and
if
one
somebody
wants
to
make
that
and
and
and
remove
that
one
section,
you
can
add
that
as
an
amendment
to
your
to
your
motion
and
then
we'll
get
a
second
on
that.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
resolution
2023-25.
I
O
B
Okay,
if
there's
no
further
comments,
roll
call.
O
J
O
R
B
Approve
this
just
for
that
one
section
and
then
I'd
like
for
us
to
come
back
with
a
second
shot
at
this
thing
that
might
try
and
capture
the
same
sort
of
thing.
So
we
can
not
disapprove
this
thing
altogether.
I
think
part
of
what
you
brought
forward
is
very
important
to
put
in
place,
so
I
did
vote
Yes
on
this
thing,
right,
yeah,
okay,
so
Ms,
Kardash
I'll,
leave
that
up
to
you
for
the
future.
Thank
you.
B
D
M
Again
per
our
procedures,
you
know
I
made
the
original
decoration
I
extended
it
on
on
Monday,
which
is
the
seven
days
I
had
to
Extended,
based
on
the
calls
we
had
Sunday
St
Pete
was
already
going
to
extend
theirs
and
we
have
again
the
pickups
that
were
indulging
this
week
to
get
to
the
residents,
picking
up
debris
and
stuff,
so
I
extended
it
on
Monday.
Thank
you,
Irene
for
being
available,
Labor
Day
for
us
to
do
that
early
morning,
Labor
Day,
so
we'd
we'd
have
the
seven
day
extension.
M
B
Need
a
clear
motion
on
that
or
just
to
adopt
what
just
city
manager
just
described.
You.
B
Ahead,
Mr
Gattis
make
your
comment
on
I'm
sorry,
but
go
ahead
and
make
your
comments
on
that
resolution.
In.
F
Regards
to
rules
of
procedure,
yes
and
posting,
you
know
public
comments
on
on
social
media
and
so
forth.
I
feel
as
though
as
a
a
safe
way
for
people
to
have
strong-willed
debate,
whereas
no
one's
being
physically
harmed.
It's
just
strong
language
and
so
forth,
that's
being
tossed
around
in
a
social
media
platform
and
I
feel
as
though,
if
we're
going
to
have
and
politics
is
intended
for
strong
debate.
F
Founding
fathers
made
that
very
clear
I
feel
as
though
that
we
will
be
entering
a
period
where
there
will
be
a
lot
of
strong
will
debate
regarding
the
due
process
clause
of
the
14th
Amendment,
which
I
find
to
be
secular,
color,
which
I
find
to
be
malicious,
high
seas,
blasphemy
in
regards
to
the
designing
of
water
jurisdictions,
and
that
due
process
clause
will
throw
some
debate
into
the
arena,
which
will
be
very
heated
in
regards
to
how
we're
going
to
put
together
privileges
and
immunities
and
and
subjecting
tax-free
Clauses
to
certain
persons
and
and
due
process
to
other
persons
and
social
media
is
a
safe
way
for
nobody
gets
hurt,
your
feelings
might
get
hurt,
but
that
is.
F
A
very
good
platform
for
us
for
to
use
for
discussion
and
I
think
that
I
do
agree
with
commissioner.
In
regards
to
these
these
debates,
we
can't
be
thin-skinned
up
here
we're
going
to
be
going
into
a
very
strong-willed
issue
on
the
14th
Amendment.
Thank
you
thank.
B
You
thank
you
Mr
Guinness,
okay,
what
we've
got
public
comments
concerning
the
ratifying
the
state
of
local
emergency
as
well?
Is
there
any
public
comments
on
that
item?
Mr
jumper.
Are
there
any
remote
access
comments.
L
B
All
right
are
there
any
commissioner
comments.
O
B
O
J
O
O
I
L
K
And
this
is,
can
I
ask
for
a
five
minute
recess?
Yes,.
B
Lewis
we're
going
to
recess
for
five
minutes
reconvene
at
11,
10.
M
D
It
in
a
journal
it
if
you
want
to
but.
M
B
And
we've
got:
we've
got
consent,
I
special
consent
items,
item,
10
award
file,
number
230105
parking
study,
consultant,
Services,
city
manager.
Of
course.
Yes,.
M
Y
Y
In
the
request
for
proposals,
we
asked
for
recommendations
and
also
we
are
asking
for
any
suggested
improvements
to
the
parking
systems
and
methodologies
necessary
to
foster
a
vibrant
quality
of
place,
sustain
economic
viability
and
maintain
the
downtown
historic
area,
small
town
character.
The
request
for
proposals
went
out
and
we
received
four
submittals
in
response.
The
committee,
the
evaluation
committee,
ranked
all
the
proposals
and
TJ
MK
Inc,
was
ranked
as
the
most
highly
rated,
considering
all
the
factors,
including
price.
M
This
and
again,
there's
there's
even
concerns
making
that
recommendation,
and
some
of
you,
some
of
you
on
the
border,
brought
up
to
me
some
of
the
concerns
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
talk
about
some
of
the
concerns.
Obviously,
the
alternative
of
turning
down
all
the
bids
and
going
out
I,
don't
know
where
that's
going
to
lead
either.
So
this
is
a
tough
one.
We
recommend
it
but
I'm
not
too
confident.
You
know,
I
have
reservations
just
like
some
of
you
did
so
it's
best.
B
Z
Z
If
you
can
take
a
piece
of
property
for
a
park
by
eminent
domain
and
those
property
owners
don't
want
to
sell,
which
is
for
a
project
for
the
betterment
of
the
of
the
citizens
of
Tarpon
in
the
community.
Z
One
is
on
hibiscus
Alpha
hibiscus
down
on
the
trail
and
the
other
one
is
by
a
little
further
down
from
where
they
had
the
barbecue
on
the
trail
and
with
the
piece
across
from
the
old
smurless
Bakery,
we've
got
our
parking
downtown,
but
I
don't
know
what
this
is
going
to
consist
with
off
Street
parking
or,
if
you're,
just
doing
it
with
the
streets
that
we
already
have
parking
and
we
can
take
out
a
lot
of
these
middle
Gardens
or
whatever.
L
B
Any
other
public
comments,
Mr,
Trump
or
Mr
races.
Are
there
any
remote
access
comments.
U
Oh
I
think
I
am
I
hearable.
Now,
yes,
you
are
okay!
Thank
you!
Mike
Peter,
relax514,
Ashland
Avenue,
when
I
looked
at
the
information,
especially
on
page
five,
where
it
shows
that
concentric
circles
were
a
quarter
mile,
half
eighth
mile
or
stuff
like
that.
Is
this
study
only
going
to
be
limited
to
this
area,
because
that
doesn't
even
include
the
northern
and
the
Safford
where
we
have
the
dog
park
and
there's
parking
up
there.
So
what
I
wonder
also
is
it
can't
be
included
with
some
type
of
a
transportation
mix?
U
You
need
to
have
a
bigger
Vision,
so
I
don't
know
if
this
study
is
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
that
as
part
of
this
solution
to
a
bigger
problem,
or
it's
just
going
to
look
at
what's
around
downtown
and
then,
if
there's
property
is
going
to
be
more
expensive
as
compared
to
something
a
little
further
away.
If
we
set
up
some
type
of
Mobility
structure,
which
is
what
a
walkable
Mobile
City
does
for
your
time,
I
know
it's
late,
yeah.
B
Thank
you.
Whoever
did
the
the
RFP
I
know:
Ms
Lewis
you'd
get
direction
from
senior
staff
as
far
as
what
the
RP
is,
but
could
we
have
somebody
explain
to
us
the
the
vision
of
what
this
study
was
supposed
to
actually
accomplish.
Y
M
J
This
is
from
Casey
Smith
106
East
Tarpon
Avenue
good
evening,
while
I'm
in
support
of
the
Downtown
parking
study.
I
do
not
support
the
current
initiative
up
for
approval
this
evening
with
a
budget
of
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
on
March
21st
mayor
backyotas
asked
for
feedback
from
the
downtown
business
community
on
April
20th.
A
formal
letter
was
submitted
from
the
downtown
property
and
business
owners
that
included
48
signatures
in
support
of
a
comprehensive
parking
approach.
J
I
am
not
aware
of
any
follow-up
or
engagement
with
the
property
owners
before
we
bring
in
more
paid
Consultants
I
believe
we
should
utilize
the
property
owners,
history
and
knowledge
of
downtown
Tarpon,
Springs
I
believe
there
is
some
low
hanging
fruit
that
may
allow
us
to
add
more
parking
that
would
not
require
outside
consultant
fees.
It
would
be
great
to
see
the
property
owners
and
their
expertise
properly
leveraged
and
supported.
Thank
you
for
considering
these
points
and
my
thoughts.
Casey.
Q
All
right,
thank
you.
As
you
know,
the
parking
study
came
out
of
the
discussions
with
a
downtown
business
that
was
opening,
and
that
was
part
of
it.
We
had
received
all
that
information
and
spoken
with
people
downtown.
The
study
is
meant
to
assess
what
the
existing
conditions
are
to
look
at.
What
future
needs
are
assess.
The
weekday
weekend
look
at
different
parking
options.
Look
at
angle,
parking,
look
at
putting
together
a
whole
parking
management
study
for
the
downtown
area.
Q
We
did
look
at
limiting
it
to
the
the
downtown
area,
which
is
that
walk
shed
map,
that's
in
your
backup.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
from
this
is
do
an
overall
analysis
of
the
Downtown
parking.
What
do
we
currently
have?
What
do
we
need?
What
kind
of
management
structure
can
we
put
together?
There's
a
lot
of
Technology
out
there
that
could
be
utilized
that
we
may
not
be
utilizing.
Are
there
existing
lots
that
we
could
be
doing
sharing
with
other
businesses
public-private
Partnerships?
Are
there
some
ideas
out
there
that
were
not
utilizing?
B
And
that's
within
those
concentric
circles
that
that
basically
I've
seen
that
in
the
in
the
oh
okay
right.
B
Q
Not
not
necessarily,
it's
short,
okay,
just
looking
at
what
we
you
know,
I
think
there
was
a
question
of.
Is
there
a
demand
for
more
parking,
and,
if
so,
you
know,
is
it
because
of
people's
behaviors
or
how
that'll
be
part
of
the
study
when
they,
when
they
check
them,
when
they
do
the
existing
analysis,
they'll
look
at
okay,
what
are
people's
behaviors?
Where
are
they
parking?
Are
they
walking?
Q
Is
it
more
on
Saturdays?
Is
it
weekdays
as
it
weekends?
Is
it
special
events
and
and
kind
of
put
together
the
analysis
based
on
that,
and
there
is
a
robust,
Community
engagement
strategy?
We
thought
that
was
very
important
for
this
to
have
a
robust,
Community
engagement
strategy.
So
there
are
a
number
of
stakeholder
meetings
that
would
be
held
in
the
very
initial
part
of
this
and
all
the
way
through
to
the
end.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you,
Ms
lemons,
all
right.
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
to
commission
comments.
Now,
commissioner,
Eisner
you've
got
your
light
on
okay.
P
Thank
you
mayor.
So,
first
thing:
when
I
got
the
price
tag
with
this
I
immediately
called
the
city
manager
and
I
said
there
would
be
no
way.
I
would
ever
spend
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
to
do
this
type
of
study.
After
that
I
wound
up
looking
into
it
a
little
bit
deeper
and
the
the
president
to
of
this
particular
company
that
was
awarded
most
of
his
work
is
done
in
California,
it's
in
Walnut,
Creek
I
believe
his
name
is
Nyan
Amin,
so
I
mean
almost
all
of
his
work.
P
Yet
he
is
looking
to
sub
out
to
the
person
who
knows
the
most.
This
person
Verana,
who
is
like
he's
cutting
I,
mean
plain
facts:
he's
cutting
her
in
for
ten
five,
ten
thousand
five
hundred
to
literally
do
that
kind
of
the
work
that
we
kind
of
need
so
the
way
I
looked
at
it.
It
was
not
something
that
I
would
and
we'll
go
for.
Entertain.
P
I,
don't
see
this
being
a
one-year
project
unless
you
really
want
to
milk,
it
I
also
would
love
to
know
what
the
other
three
bidders
bid
in
the
in
this
process,
because
on
the
first
part
of
this,
you
have
here
in
total
points
87.2
versus
83.3.
Well,
what
was
the
price
difference
between
those
is
what
I
needed
to
know
the
next.
P
The
third
person
in
in
this
thing
is
77.04
I'm
not
looking
to
second
guess
anybody,
but
I
just
want
to
know
what
prices
these
were
if
these
are
all
in
the
55,
000
plus
category,
so
I'm
not
looking
to
spend
that
kind
of
money,
I
mean
I.
I
heard
what
Casey
Smith
said:
the
there
is
low
hanging
fruit
that
is
not
55
000
and
that's
where
I'm
at.
L
K
Yeah
I'm,
definitely
not
in
favor
of
spending
55
000.
I'm,
going
to
ask
two
rhetorical
questions
that
I've
asked
many
times
to
many
people
in
in
town
that
talk
about
parking.
K
What
are
the
most
amount
of
people
that
have
been
in
town
at
any
given
time?
It
would
be
epiphany
and
what's
the
most
amount
of
people
that
have
been
to
the
the
biggest
Epiphany
ceremonies
we've
had
twenty
thousand
twenty
five
thousand
I've
heard
different
numbers,
and
the
second
rhetorical
question
is:
where
did
they
Park?
K
They
were
there
they're
downtown
and
they
parked
somewhere.
So
we
have
parking
now
this
the
question
is,
is
convenient
parking.
You
know
we
have
and
and
then
that's
what
goes
with
what.
Q
L
B
B
O
B
Yes,
commissioner
coulianis,
please.
I
K
So
I
I
think
the
issue
is
when
you
talk
when
you
narrow
it
down
with
the
the
the
downtown
merchants
or
or
Property
Owners,
it's
more
convenience
of
spots.
So
you
know
we
have.
We
have
the
these
I,
don't
know
75
spots
or
whatever
how
many
spots
we
have
that's
are
over
behind
the
the
old
Flagship
Bank
I've
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
it
before
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
even
see
that
spot.
K
So
we
have
maybe
some
awareness
problem.
Maybe
the
signage
isn't
adequate
to
to
get
people
to
park
over
there,
but
it's
not
far
I
mean
this.
Isn't
a
big.
This
really
isn't
that
big
of
a
town.
If
you
go
to
other
towns,
you
walk,
you
walk
several
blocks
you
to
go
to
where
you're
going.
We
obviously
that's
what's
happening
here.
I
mean
I
drove
down.
K
Lemon,
Street
and
I
saw
about
I
counted
16
spots
from
Tarpon
Avenue
I
mean
from
Pinellas
Avenue
all
the
way
to
whatever
that,
where
you
turn
to
go
to
Vincent's.
There
I
counted
17
spots
that
if
you
knocked
all
those
Knockouts
all
that
decorative
stuff
that
was
built-
and
maybe
it's
not-
you
know,
16
spots-
maybe
it's
12
spots,
but
that's
12
good
spots
in
addition
to
what
we
already
have
then
I
think
it's
pretty
much.
K
First
of
all,
I
don't
want
to
spend
55
000
period,
but
I
think
it's
premature
because
we
don't
have.
We
don't
know
if
the
Roosevelt
property
is
going
to
get
approved.
We
conversations
that
have
been.
The
board
has
talked
about
having
parking
at
that
spot.
K
K
Then
we've
got
the
18
spots
that
cohatch
is
supposed
to
come
up
with
before
they
can
get
their
occupational
license.
So
let's
wait
and
see
what
that
happens.
So
if
we
got,
let's
even
say,
we
can
get
10
spots
on
Lemon,
Street
plus
18
spots.
Cohatch
comes
up
with
there's
28
spots.
K
K
So
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
empower
our
economic
development
director
and
maybe
Renee
have
Karen
and
Renee
work
together
to
to
meet
with
property
owners
and
some
of
the
merchants
and
and
walk
the
town.
I
walk
the
town
with
Karen
she
and
I
walked
around
all
around
downtown.
We
said,
oh
there's
a
couple
spots,
there's
a
couple
spots.
We
found
out
the
spots
all
over,
we
didn't
get.
We
didn't.
We
didn't
need
to
spend
55
000
to
identify
spots
in
downtown
so
anyways.
R
Yeah
I'm
kind
of
in
concurrence
with
the
current
thought
here:
I'm
not
about
to
pay
55
000
a
for
a
public
engagement
strategy.
An
analysis
condition
is
just
going
to
bring
the
fact
up
that
we
need
parking
and
we
need
more
convenient
parking.
That's
all
it's
basically
going
to
say:
do
we
need
better
signage
yeah?
Probably
it's
hard
to
find
that
lot
behind
the
Flag
Staff
I
work
for
Fridays.
Quite
a
bit,
it's
difficult
to
explain
how
to
get
them.
Signage
would
help
an
analysis
of
parking.
R
Excuse
me
parking
management
strategies,
we're
a
city
we
put
two-hour
limitations
on
on
street
parking
or
four-hour
limitations
in
the
mayor's
parking
lot.
If
we
want
to
have
turnover,
encourage
and
stuff
like
that,
there's
not
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
we
can
do
to
manage
without
building
a
parking
garage.
So
no
I'm
not
going
to
support
this.
Thank.
O
You
I
just
want
to
mention.
There
was
a
really
nice
property
on
the
corner
of
hibiscus
and
Safford
that,
if
would,
would
serve
some
good
parking
spots
for
downtown,
but
just
throwing
that
out
there.
O
Orange
and
Stafford,
but
no
for
me
for
many
reasons,
including
what
commissioner
Eiser
said
from
where
the
company's
located
out
of
to
the
Outsourcing
that
looks
like
what's
going
to
happen,
two
exactly
what
really
you
know?
What
are
we
looking
for?
We
hear
from
some
of
the
business
owners
the
comprehensive
parking
studies
and
try
to
include
it
all
in.
We
do
have
some
variables
that
are
you
know
the
Sponge
Docks,
the
one
property
down
there.
O
If,
if
purchased,
will
open
up
a
lot
of
things,
so
I
I
think
now's
not
the
time
to
go
through
with
it.
This
one
bid
and
looking
to
see
what
can
come
of
it
and
what
other
properties
nearby.
We
can
hopefully
get
a
leasing
opportunity
with
here
in
the
future
and
try
to
add
more
so
that's
I'm
not
going
to
support
one
with
this
vendor.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
I
guess
my
only
thing
is
that
I
know
many.
Many
of
us
have
some
most
of
us
have
a
pretty
definite
view
of
the
parking
as
far
as
the
availability
of
parking,
and
it
is
a
matter
of
parking
versus
what
some
business
owners
would
describe
as
convenient
parking,
namely
something
you
know
in
front
of
their
store.
B
Just
you
know
near
their
store
and
things
like
that
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you
kind
of
get
around
that
sort
of
discussion
with
the
and
they're
recurring
they're
they're,
just
one
time
those
those
discussions
happen
all
the
time.
B
You
know
come
up
with
something
and
say:
okay,
this
is
what
you've
got
and
it's
not
an
issue
of
the
commission
or
some
Commissioners
saying
X
this
or
that
and
business
is
saying
this,
or
that
is
some
third
party
who
really
doesn't
have
a
vested
interest
in
it,
saying
that
this
is
what
you've
got
in
our
professional
opinion.
This
is
where
you
are.
B
They
could
very
well
say
that
we've
got
plenty
of
parking
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
other
options
that
could
be
undertaken
that
we
haven't
pursued
those
because
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
for
the
purpose
of
a
study
it
does
accomplish
something
probably
55
000,
although
in
terms
of
today's
dollars,
it's
not
a
whole
lot
of
money
for
a
study
and-
and
the
one
question
I
had
was
how
does
55
000
turn
into
six
months
or
12
months?
How
does
a
consultant
I
mean
55
000?
B
Certainly,
the
cost
is
an
issue,
but
it's
I
would
feel
much
better
if
there
was
somebody
like
does
a
lot
of
work
for
Pinellas
County
or
something
like
that.
That
would
be
doing
something
like
this
for
us
as
well,
not
somebody
that
maybe
out
of
the
nine
Consultants
four
were
from
California
four
from
Texas
and
one
was
from
from
Florida
and
I
understand
from
the
city
staff's
perspective.
B
You
don't
decide
who
responds
to
the
RP,
so
we
you
know
we
put
this
out,
and
this
is
the
best
that
we
can
get
and
you
provide
us
the
best
of
those
Alternatives
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
saying
up
here
has
got
absolutely
no
reflection
on
on
any
of
you.
I
want
to
make
sure
that.
M
B
Maybe
maybe
because
I
know
one
thing
we've
done
in
the
past
is:
we've
looked
at
Pinellas
County,
an
existing
contract
and
we
piggybacked
and
picked
on
them
as
a
task
and
they've
allowed
us
to
add
a
task
for
that
particular
consultant,
not
the
55
000,
but
something
a
little
more
reasonable
than
that.
So
anyway,.
L
B
That's
all
I
have
to
say
on
that.
Is
there
any
other
comments
and
and
if
not
then
want
to
go
to
emotion
and
then
ask
for
a
second
motion:
approvement.
B
K
No,
no
I.
B
I
J
J
B
Yes,
thank
you
Ms.
Thank
you,
this
review
over
there.
B
Y
Okay,
good
evening
again
so
I
don't
have
my
sheet
in
front
of
me,
but
I
will
tell
you.
This
is
the
re-bid
for
the
yard
waste
debris.
Initially
we
put
it
out
and
we
received
a
single
bid.
That
bid
was
Way
Beyond
what
our
budget
could
handle.
So
we
recommended
rejecting
the
bid
and
redoing
the
solicitation.
We
went
back
out
for
another
time
and
again
we
received
a
single
bid
from
the
same
company
Consolidated
resource
recovery.
Y
X
X
Good
evening
Tom
function
Public,
Works,
director,
yes,
Janina
explained
we
did
put
this
out
to
bed.
The
prices
were
extremely
high,
so
we
got
this
opportunity
to
talk
with
this
company
negotiate
this
price.
We
did
a
lot
of
research
prior
to
this,
on
what
the
neighboring
counties
were
handling
and
what
they
were
being
charged
and
that
helped
us
reduce
the
original
estimates
they
had
at
about
90
a
ton
and
we
brought
them
down
to
64.50
64.52
a
ton
for
services.
X
The
only
area
that
would
actually
be
a
little
less
money
right
now
would
be
Hillsborough
County
over
at
the
Linebaugh
station
over
there,
which
forensic
actually
does
their
work
there,
but
their
contract
is
up
next
year,
so
it's
probably
going
to
shoot
up
quite
a
bit
over
there.
So
this
will
put
us
in
competitive
with
everyone
else
that
handles
this
type
of
waste
and.
W
U
Evening,
gentlemen,
this
way
so
we'll
try
to
be
brief.
We're
kind
of
in
a
pickle
in
a
sense
but
I
wanted
to
point
out
on
the
second
page.
Part
of
the
way
they
renegotiated
was
that
they
remove
the
plastic
bag.
So
you
can
see
the
tying
of
the
other
ordinance
to
this,
but
I
mentioned
earlier
vision,
Vision
vision.
Now
they
want
62,
627
700
to
start,
and
it
also
says
you
it's
a
five-year
contract
and
they
have
Consumer
Price
Index
increases.
U
So
if
you
figure
anywhere
around
four
to
five
percent
increases
each
year
and
that
compounds
by
the
time
you've
gone
through
five
years,
you're
going
to
spend
over
three
million,
probably
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Now
here's
where
I
talk
about
vision
and
I
hate
to
do
it,
but
I
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting
when
we
talked
about
this
finding
a
site
on
the
north
side
of
the
river
and
putting
the
yard
waste
facility
there.
Now
something
else.
U
I've
also
seen
and
through
my
travels
of
late
through
Florida,
there's
a
lot
of
yard
waste
debris
that
is
usable
and
I,
even
see
it
at
our
site.
If
we
could
find
a
public-private
partnership
for
some
way,
we
lease
or
purchase
and
pulleys
mustafer
site
we
put
in
a
marina
down
at
the
bottom
and
then
on
the
North
side.
We
put
in
a
yard
waste
and
a
mill,
a
Mill,
and
we
start
processing
and
start
getting
back
some
revenue
from
this.
U
Instead
of
paying
people
to
haul
it
away,
we
should
be
reunizing
it,
so
we
can
get
something
back
out
of
it.
So
unless
there's
any
state
law
that
says
we
can't
do
it,
we
could
find
a
way
to
create
our
own
processing
site
where
we
create
mulch
I've,
seen
some
trees,
you've
seen
some
of
them
out
there
at
the
mirror
site.
U
12
20
feet
long
three
four
feet
across
there's
Lumber
in
that
Lumber,
so
we're
throwing
away
resources
and
we're
paying
somebody
to
take
them
away
where
we
should
be
looking
is
how
do
we
use
those
resources?
Our
community
is
producing
to
make
a
return
on
it.
Even
if
it's
a
small
return,
it's
more
in
Mr
you're,
paying
out.
B
You
all
right,
let's
go
to
commission
comments,
anyone
have
any
comments
on
who
wants
to
start.
B
Just
so
we
know
the
this
material
is
is,
is
is
hauled
off
to.
Where
do
we
know
where
it's
hauled
off
to
yeah.
X
B
I
appreciate
the
kind
of
like
the
creativity
of
things,
and
maybe
we
can
look
into
that,
but
for
the
near
term,
we're
not
in
that
situation
that
we
can
afford
to
to
waste
time
on
this.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
B
K
P
B
Can
you
say
that
one
more
time-
okay,
city
manager,
of
course,.
M
J
B
R
Yeah
I
just
want
to
reiterate
our
thanks
to
the
police
and
fire
department
and
staff
that
stood
by
through
the
hurricane.
It
was
a
long
stint
for
them.
It
turned
out
really
well,
you
know
some
people
lost
their
homes
because
of
the
fire,
but
we
did
what
we
could
to
mitigate
that
which
I
thought
was
great.
So
anyway,.
R
P
Thank
you,
mayor
I
also
want
to
thank
both
Youngs,
both
chief
chief,
all
the
staff.
Everybody
did
a
great
job
and
a
special
thank
you
to
our
chief
of
police.
There
was
a
little
incident
that
came
about
with
the
Red
Cross
and
I
was
really
happy
that
you
came
through
and
you
helped
buffer
the
situation
because
they
were
here
doing
their
their
utmost
to
help
everybody
so
I
do
want
to
thank
you,
I
hate,
to
bother
you
on
the
weekends,
but
you
know
it
was.
It
was
really
appreciative.
B
O
I
just
want
to
say,
welcome:
Miss
Kardash,
it
was
I,
think
I
thought
it
was
a
great
meeting.
There's
some
of
these
resolutions
and
ordinances.
Her
advice
and
Council
helped
helped
us
get
through
the
motions
and
I'm
excited
about
this
regular
session
meetings
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah
it
was,
it
was
an
exhausting
week
last
week,
anytime,
these
storms
are
coming
or
there's
so
much
anxiety
and,
and
it's
just
it
was,
it
was
a
tough
week-
I'm
really
proud
of
our
city
that
how
we
responded,
the
obviously
the
our
city
manager
and
the
Chiefs
and
department
heads
and
everybody
who
helped
I'm
excited
about
working
with
Kardash
she's
again
I
had
some
experience
with
her
at
pnz
and
and
I
know,
she's
great
so
and
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
any
or
follow-up
assessments
on
on
the
storm,
and
you
know
it
was
I
know
that
we
had
some
trouble
getting
through
some
water
that
was
higher
than
like
our
trucks
key
get
through.
K
So
maybe
we
have
to
think
about
how
we're
going
to
get
some
other
vehicles
that
can
handle
water
that
deep,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
our
follow-up
assessments
after
you
guys
get
through
all
this,
and
so
thank
you.
L
B
Thank
you,
Ms
cardash
and
welcome
aboard,
and
this
is
an
extraordinary
long
meeting
compared
to
calm,
but
a
long
meeting
to
what
we
normally
experience.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience.
I
have
no
further,
but
I
want
to
remind
everybody.
Don't
pack
up
yet
we've
got
a
very
brief
community
redevelopment
agency
meeting
right
after
this
real
quick,
so
meeting
adjourned
at
11,
51.
B
Okay
is
Dan
going
to
come
up
here;
okay,
right.
I
U
L
I
B
Okay,
this
evening,
it's
just
a
real
brief
meeting.
I
want
to
introduce
Mr
Dan
Lewis
he'll,
be
our
community
redevelopment
agency
attorney
we're
kind
of
formalizing
the
way
we
do
business
here,
they're
they're,
there's
you'll
hear
more
about
this
going
on
to
the
future,
but
I
just
want
to
let
it
go
at
that
it's
late
in
the
evening
we
did
have
one
agenda
item,
which
was
the
parking
study
for
consultant
Services.
B
That's
been
kind
of
taken
care
of,
so
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
do
since
we
had
actually
and
it,
and
you
can't
make
a
call
in
the
city
commission
meeting
about
what
you're
going
to
do
with
the
CRA
we're
completely
independent
of
each
other.
So
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
was
just
to
follow
through
and
convene
the
meeting
and
adjourn
the
meeting.
So
there
is
no
business
this
evening
and
unless
any
CRA
board
members
have
any
comments.
I'm
going
to
adjourn
the
meeting
anybody
anything
okay,
meeting,
adjourned
at
11,
53.