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B
D
B
Budget
starting
by
departments,
so
let's
lead
it
off
turn
it
over.
B
E
Thank
you,
I'm
bob
robertson,
I'm
the
project
administration
department,
director
and
in
a
few
sentences.
What
the
project
administration
department
is
is
basically
the
de
facto
engineering
department
for
the
city.
We
do
what
our
title
says:
we
administer
projects,
we
run
them
through
design
and
through
construction,
we're
a
small
department
of
three
people,
including
me,
and
I
we
share
an
executive
assistant.
So
I
guess
three
and
a
half.
Technically
most
of
our
work
comes
from
one
of
three
flip
places:
it's
either
water
and
sewer.
E
E
My
my
budget
consists
of
basically
two
things:
the
salaries
for
the
three
people
that
I
have
in
my
department
and
a
fund
for
miscellaneous
engineering
services.
That
is
basically
a
tool
that
I
use
for
cert
analysis,
miscellaneous,
non-project,
related
engineering
work,
it's
also
for
geotechnical
work.
If
we
have
a
sinkhole
or
something
opens
up,
I
have
a
contract
available
and
I
take
care
of
that
under
my
budget.
So
if
we
have
an
investigation
needs
to
be
done.
E
We
do
that
and
at
miscellaneous
surveying
services
for
the
departments,
if
they
need
they
need
to
go,
you
know,
get
the
boundary
survey
for
a
property
they're
interested
in.
I
have
the
ability
and
the
contracts
available
to
execute
those.
So
that's
what
that
budget
line
item
is,
for
my
total
budget
is
502
000,
which
is
about
almost
exactly
four
percent
more
than
last
year,
so
really
just
a
barely
an
inflationary
adjustment
over
last
year's
budget,
and
I
think
with
that
I'll,
just
stop
for
questions.
Mr
chair.
A
That
that's
about,
then
that's
what
combined
that's
the
three
percent
that
we
budgeted,
we
for
funding
for
a
pay
increase,
and
then
we've
still
got.
We
don't
do
not
have
the
health
insurance
numbers
what
the
premium
is
going
to
come
in
at
so
we
budgeted
ten
percent
for
that.
So
yes,
it's
right
around
four
percent
there:
okay
right
and
the
other
thing
that.
A
Some
of
the
other
things
you
might
see
across
the
departments
is,
you
know
some
operating
supplies.
You
know
costs
have
gone
up,
especially
you
know.
Fuel
vehicle,
fuel
and
repairs
and
maintenance,
so
you'll
see
that
across
some
of
the
departments-
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
one
thing-
you
know-
bob's,
one
of
the
departments
for
all
his
employees
are-
are
split
across
three
different
departments.
A
A
And
we
have
some
pages,
like
pages
40
start
with
page
well,
bob
and
them
are
on
page
44,
which
totals
those
three
different
departments.
So
if
you
needed
to
see
the
total
of
all
the
split
positions,
we've
got
pages
42
through
44
of
this
budget
book
show
that
it
kind
of
combines
those
split
positions
across
the
different
fonts
and
stuff.
Just
re-own
information.
B
E
A
F
A
A
B
A
B
Ago
bob
question
and
I'm
looking
into
detail
and
we're
just
trying
to
look
at
the
highlights
of
those
numbers.
I
know
why
personnel
services
is
a
office
supplies
moving
from
2800
to
8750.
B
Pretty
big
jump
in
books
and
publications
going
from
two
thousand
dollars
22
budget
up
to
eight
thousand
dollars.
E
E
B
Did
I
miss
a
line?
That's
why
I
bought
breakfast.
E
It
is
training,
so
that's
live
that
is
correct,
55.,
so
that
is
classes
seminars,
licensing
and
training.
A
big
part
of
that
is
a
bi-annual
licensing
for
for
me,
as
a
professional
engineer,
I
only
have
to
do
it
every
other
year,
so
this
this
is
that
every
other
year
yeah,
but
also
includes
training
for
my
staff
and
that
sort
of
thing.
A
D
B
B
G
G
G
Okay,
essentially,
the
budget
is
personnel,
there's
a
few
miscellaneous
things
for
office
and
training
and
memberships,
but
the
budget
is
essentially
what
it
was
last
year.
Increase
is
just
for.
B
H
G
D
G
B
G
B
G
We
have
grants
within
our
community
redevelopment
area
for
new
and
existing
businesses.
We
have
a
historic
tax
abatement
program
for
commercial
projects
that
are
renovating
some
of
our
older
historic
buildings
that
provide
tax
credits.
So
we
have
a
myriad
of
of
programs
to
help
recruit
and
maintain
our
our
businesses.
Here.
G
In
spite
of
the
economy,
it's
been
growing
very,
very
well.
We
have
a
new
industrial
park
on
the
north
side
of
the
river
called
river
bend.
That's
the
first!
When
I
say
industrial
park,
I
don't
mean
smoke
stacks.
It's
a
business
park,
employment
center,
employment
related
jobs;
they
opened,
they
broke
ground
in
2021.
G
And
of
the
sites
they
have
14
sites
that
have
been
that
are
under
contract,
they
have
six
pending
and
they
only
have
one
available
so
we're
attracting
a
lot
of
industry
to
the
city
and
industries
that
provide
living
wages
and
employment
related
wages.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that.
We're
probably
one
of
the
few
cities
in
pinellas
county
that
have
that
open
space
that
can
provide.
You,
know
new
and
updated
business
parks,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that
and
we're
working
with
the
county.
G
The
county
has
what's
called
an
employment
sites
program
that
provides
outright
grants
to
new
industries
to
help
gap
financing.
If
you
will
help
industries
that
are
looking
to
either
build
new
or
expand
and,
for
you
know,
lack
of
financing
related
to
whether
it's
unforeseen
circumstances
say
they
need
to
install
sewer
lines
that
they
didn't
expect
or
they
need
to
do
underground,
vault
system
for
their
water
retention.
Things
like
that
the
county
will
step
in
and
provide
grants
for
that.
G
So
I've
been
working
with
a
couple
of
businesses
that
were
hoping
to
take
advantage
of
that
program
and
in
our
cra,
which
which
we'll
get
to
with
the
next
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
new
businesses.
I
think
our
downtown
is
pretty
full
out.
I
don't
know
that
there
are
any
available
spaces.
There's
the
one
building,
that's
on
the
corner
of
lemon
and
ring
that
was
just
renovated.
G
They
did
a
great
job
there
in
fact
we're
having
a
ribbon
cutting
tonight
for
foreshore
golf
carts.
That's
that's
opening
that
has
a
couple
spaces,
but
that's
going
to
be
filled
pretty
soon,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
who
are
calling
and
inquiring
and
want
to
be
here.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that.
In
fact
we're
not
turning
away
people
but
we're
finding
a
hard
time.
People
want
to
be
downtown
and
we're
having
a
hard
time
finding
spaces
for
them.
G
G
So
that's
helped
us
to
bring
in
some
of
the
some
of
the
restaurants
and
some
of
the
other
businesses
that
have
proliferated
downtown
and
then
we
just
started
a
photo
mural
grant.
Also
we
haven't
had
anybody
take
advantage
of
that
yet,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
in
the
future.
What's
that
one
now
yeah
it
provides
a
2500
reimbursable
grant
for
putting
a
mural
on
the
outside
of
a
building
or
a
photo.
G
The
idea
would
be
to
put
like
a
historical
photo
on
the
outside
of
a
building
that
came
about
in
a
lot
of
the
beautification
discussions.
We've
had
on
some
of
these
older
buildings
that
maybe
don't
look
quite
quite
right
and
are
very
visible
on
up
and
down
alt,
19
or
downtown
and
you've
got
this
ugly.
You
know
exterior
wall,
that's
just
blank
so
hoping
to
attract.
G
G
B
G
Oh
yeah
from
the
historical
society
yep,
it
was
actually
a
three:
it's
it's
a
panoramic
photo
yes,
and
it
shows
what
spring
valley
looked
like
in
1924.
I
believe
it
is
because
if
you
see
the
the
old
hotel,
the
tarpon
inn
is
the
old.
The
original
one
is
still
there,
so
they
brought
that
all
together
and
it
was
a
pretty
slick
system
of
putting
that
on
the
side
of
the
building.
B
H
So
a
lot
of
discussions
about
the
proposed
hilton
at
the
sponge
docs
and
all
that
and
and
a
lot
of
suggestions,
I'm
seeing
from
people
of
wanting
more
boutique
hotels
and
things
of
that
nature
is.
Is
it
your
job?
I
don't
know
whose
job
is
it
to
negotiate
the
contracts
with
the
proposed
tolton
guy
or
other
people?
Who,
who
is
the
negotiator
that
says
hey
this?
The
citizens
don't
want
it
here.
Would
you
think
about
the
pappas
property?
Who
who
exactly?
Does
that.
G
Well,
if
you've
been
following
that's
kind
of
a
community
thing,
we
have,
we
have
a
comprehensive
plan
that
provides
in
a
zoning
code
that
provides
some
guidelines
on
on
what
can
go
where,
in
terms
of
that
particular
project,
there
are
no
design
guidelines
per
se,
but
because
it's
in
the
sponge
docks-
and
we
know
that
that's
a
very
historic
area-
people
care
passionately
about
it-
that
there
are
going
to
be
certain
criteria
that
the
residents
and
the
people
are
going
to
be
looking
for
and
what
it
looks
like.
So
what
what?
G
H
Right,
I
mean
I
saw
a
lot
of
the.
It
seemed
like
the
consensus,
and
I
could
be
wrong
seemed
like
that.
A
lot
of
the
people-
and
this
is
no
opinion
of
mine-
would
prefer
to
have
the
boutique,
bread
and
breakfasts
and
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
that's
some
of
the
stuff
that
I've
been
reading
and-
and
I
was
just
wondering
if,
if
we
were
going
to
go
in
that
direction,
is
that
your
job
to
try
and
find
those
kinds
of
things?
G
Yeah
I
work
with
brokers,
real
estate
agents,
site
selectors,
so
those
are
the
people
that
typically
we
work
through.
Not
not
the
you
know,
not
the
hotels
or
the
the
companies
themselves,
but
they're
looking
for
sites,
and
so
those
are
the
things
we'll
look
at
and
then
you
also
have
to
look
at
the
economics
of
it.
So
you
know
if
you
have
to
buy
a
large
five
acre
property.
G
D
G
Yeah
it
was,
it
was
a
conditional
use
application.
It
wasn't
a
site
plan
which
comes
later
because
they
were
putting
it
on
two
parcels
that
have
different
zoning.
One
of
them
required
a
conditional
use,
and
one
didn't
so.
They
went
through
that
process,
but
again
going
back
to
because
of
where
it
is.
B
G
G
G
G
G
G
And
then
under
52-0
operating
supplies,
you'll
see
that
went
up
about
10
000
and
that
reflects
the
historic
marker
program.
We
started
a
local
historic
marker
program
with
the
tarpon
springs
historical
society
this
past
year.
So
this
is
an
allocation
of
ten
thousand
dollars
to
provide
historical
markers
throughout
the
city.
There's
an
application
process
that
goes
through
the
historical
society.
G
B
G
We
have
several
of
them
already
in
the
downtown
there's
one
in
the
factless
building
the
the
vincent
building.
G
Okay-
and
I
think
those
are
the
only
two
52-13
flowers
and
plants
that
went
up
a
little
to
up
to
10
000
now
for
additional
flowers
and
plants
for
the
cra,
we're
always
trying
to
add
beautification.
B
G
G
I
know
we
have
a
program
for
the
jitney
building
they're,
putting
in
there's
a
design
right.
Now,
it's
going
to
the
board,
I
think,
next
month
or
this
month
you
remember
the
old
jitney
that
that
was
restored
by
the
historical
society.
It
was
an
old
old
vehicle
that
used
to
be
used
to
carry
people
around
back
in
the
early
1900s
and
they
restored
it
and
it's
been
stored
in
the
public
works
building,
but
they
want
to
use
it
more.
G
B
A
Percent,
are
you
talking
about
the
I.
B
And
looking
at
this
195
told
us
what
the
revenue
side
is
now,
what
conclusion
can
we
come
from
196.
A
Yeah,
that's
money.
We
have
the
revenues.
We
have
excess
money,
we
put
it
in
0.99,
it's
a
reserve
right,
sometimes
what
happens
and
the
board's
going
to
meet
in
a
couple
weeks
and
try
to
decide
what
capital
items
they
want
to
use
so
to
balance
a
fund
revenues,
equal
expenditures,
I've
I
didn't
have
enough
expenditures
so
far
because
I
haven't
designated
capital
projects,
so
I
stuck
it
under
0.99
reserve
until
when
they
they'll
meet
in
a
couple
weeks
and
they'll
say
fair,
I
think
part
of
his
jitney
building
for
the
construction
of
that
and.
B
D
A
D
G
E
G
B
A
J
Not
quite
now
renee
vincent
planting
and
zoning
director,
so
is
that
right,
it
is
raining.
J
Our
department
is
solely
funded
by
the
general
fund.
Last
year
we
did
add
a
position,
so
you
do
see
that,
in
addition
to
your
regular
budget
increase
for
salaries,
we
had
a
position
that
was
added,
so
that
also
has
had
an
impact
on
the
overall
budget.
I
think
the
biggest
thing
of
of
note
is
the
the
the
increase
in
the
professional
services
budget.
So
I
will
concentrate
on
that
for
the
moment
and
then
obviously
we
can
come
back
and
and
and
talk
about
specifics.
J
You
know
other
line
items
if
you
like,
so
under
that
professional
services
budget,
we
have
we've,
we've
have
two
items
in
there.
One
is
an
economic
development
strategy.
The
other
is
a
cultural
resources
survey,
which
is
a
historic
property
survey.
We've
budgeted
those
165
thousand
one
is
fifty
thousand.
We
have
to
upfront
those
costs.
We
expect
those
to
be
grant
reimbursed.
We
don't
we've
applied
for
grants,
we
don't.
If
we
don't
get
those
grants,
then
this
money
will
not
be
spent.
So
it's
a
they'll
get
reimbursed
on
the
back
end.
J
B
J
So
one
is
an
economic
development
strategy
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
that's
something
that
I
worked
with
karen
lemons
on
previously,
so
it's
an
overall!
You
know
how
do
we
continue
to
promote
economic
development,
the
right
kind
of
economic
development
for
the
city?
So
it's
it's
it's
downtown,
but
it's
industrial
district.
It's
us
19!
J
It's
looking
at
a
an
overall
kind
of
we've,
never
had
a
an
overall
comprehensive
economic
development
strategy,
and
this
is
something
that
we've
gotten
some
direction
from
the
board
of
commissioners
on
that
they
would
like
to
see
so
we've
we
tried
last
year
to
get
a
grant
for
this.
We
were
unsuccessful,
so
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
get
it
this
year
through
the
state
of
florida.
It's
an
it's
an
assistance
grant,
so
we
should.
Hopefully
we
will
know
before
the
budget
gets
finalized.
If
we're
going
to
receive
that
particular
grant.
J
J
So
yeah,
I
didn't
have
the
entire
thing.
So
what
we're?
What
we're
looking
at
is
an
asset
based
economic
development
strategy
for
the
city.
So
a
lot
in
the
past,
a
lot
of
things
are
kind
of
needs
based.
We
we
nee,
we
need
a
hotel.
An
asset
based
economic
development
strategy
looks
at
what
are
the
unique
things
that
tarp
make
tarpon
tarpon
and
then
how
do
we
generate
economic
development
around
those
assets?
So
it's
not
my
my
specialty
so
to
speak.
J
I
worked
with
economic
development
manager
karen
to
to
to
kind
of
move
this
forward.
So
that's
why
we
need
a
consultant
to
develop
this,
but
it's
a
it's
an
asset
based
economic
development
strategy
of
looking
at
what's
great
about
tarpon.
What
brings
people
here
now
and
how
do
we
get
more
of
it?
How
do
we
preserve
that
and
then
how
do
we
get
other
appropriate
economic
development
for
the
city?
Is
it
does
that.
H
J
J
Not
so,
if,
once
we,
if
we
get
noticed,
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
the
rfp
process
we
also
we
we
also
have
an
opportunity
to
use.
Pinellas
county
has
five
general
planning
consultants
that
they've
got
that
are
broadly
qualified
for
a
whole
range
of
services,
including
economic
development
strategies
and
stuff.
So
we
also
have
an
opportunity
if
we
wanted
to
go
directly
to
one
of
those,
but
more
than
likely,
I
think
my
preference
would
be
let's
go
out
and
see
what
we
get
and
instead
of
trying
to
piggyback
on
another
another
contract.
J
The
50
000
is
a
cultural
resources
study.
We
will
be
replying
directly
to
the
state
for
funding
through
the
historic
preservation
arm
of
the
state
if
you
will
and
they
they
do
annual
grants
to
certified
local
governments.
The
city
of
tarpon
is
a
certified
local
government
for
historic
preservation,
so
we've
been
successful
in
getting
these
grants
in
the
past.
J
In
fact,
we're
wrapping
up
one
right
now,
so
this
this
one
is
intended
to
be
focused
on
the
the
union
academy
area
and
establishing
you
know
the
history
and
culture
and
assets
of
that
and
studying
that
area
with
the
intent
in
the
future
of
you
know.
How
do
we
preserve
that
area?
How
do
we
stop
gentrification
from
happening?
How
do
we
so
it's
it's
looking
at
the
union
academy
area
and
so
again,
that'll
be
a
that'll
be
conducted
by
a
consultant
there.
We
may
work
directly
with
university
of
florida.
J
They
have
a
really
good
program
for
that
and
we've
worked
with
them
before
and
we
can
go
directly
to
them.
So
we're
that
one
again
we'll
we're
waiting
to
see
if
we're
going
to
get
funded.
I'm
sorry
that
one's
not
through
the
state
that
one's
actually
that's
a
national
endowment
grant
that
we've
applied
for
we
were.
I
got
my
grants
mixed
up.
J
We
we
submitted
that
was
a
national
grant
for
cultural
resources
services
and
we
were
shortlisted
from
like
two
over
250
applicants
down
to
a
group
of
I
want
to
say,
like
50.,
so
to
do
them
to
to
go
forward
with
the
rest
of
the
application
process.
So
we're
really
hopeful
that
we're
going
to
get
this
when
we
and
again
we
should
be
finding
out,
sometime
by
I
think,
by
in
the
next
month
or
two
on
that
one.
So,
hopefully
again
that
one
we
will
know
if
we're
gonna
get
that
fund.
J
On
on
both
of
these
instances,
my
principal
planner,
caroline
lanford,
is
the
person
that
drafted
those
those
two
particular
grants.
We
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
help.
You
know
from
other.
You
know
other
folks
that
you
know
have
specialties
here
and
there
karen
helped
with
economic
development,
and
so
you
know
pat
lyon,
pat
mcneese,
my
other
planner.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
good
expertise
for
applying
for
the
grants.
J
J
The
other
yes
they
have.
We
have
a
new
line
item
in
there
that
says
engineering
development
review,
slash,
platz,
platz,
we've
already
had
funded
in
the
plat
review.
So
whenever
a
new
subdivision
comes
in
there's
a
process
that,
after
it
gets
approved
to
be
built,
the
last
thing
that
happens
is
plot
review
and
those
are
very
formal
documents
that
have
to
be
reviewed
by
an
engineer
before
they
get
recorded
with
with
the
county
and
become
a
public
recorded
document.
So
in
the
past
that's
been
a
separate
line
item.
J
J
This
is
well.
This
appears
to
be
new.
This
is
actually
a
service
that
the
engineering
development
review
is
for
reviewing
development
projects
that
are
coming
through,
like
a
hotel
for
re
adherence
to
the
city's
stormwater
requirements
as
part
of
the
site
plan.
We
don't
have
anybody
on
staff
in
the
city
that
can
review
those
plans
for
that
storm
for
for
compliance
with
state
and
local
storm
water
requirements.
So
that
is
something
that
we
pay
a
consultant
to
do.
So
all
these
review
projects
that
you
see
coming
through
planning
and
zoning
board
and
board
of
commissioners.
J
They,
you
know
they're
getting
you
know
as
part
of
our
technical
review
committee
they're,
getting
reviewed
by
our
stormwater
engineer
of
record
that
has
been
being
picked
up
by
the
public
works
engineer
of
record
and
budget.
So
this
is
a
little
more
transparent.
We're
trying
to
pull
this
out
of
their
their
budget,
it'll
show
up
in
hours
and
then
we
will
be
responsible
for
for
billing
it
and
paying
it.
J
Along
with
that,
I
intend
to
go
to
the
board
of
this
year
the
board
of
commissioners
and
ask
that
the
developers
be
responsible
for
some
portion
of
that
cost.
Now
right
now.
It's
not
the
city
is
bearing
that
cost,
but
we
have
to
review
these
to
make
sure
that
the
plans
are
reflecting
what
needs
to
happen
so
that
we're
not
flooding
properties
and
things
of
that
nature.
J
But
the
city
manager
has
given
me
authorization
to
go,
go
back
to
the
board
of
commissioners
and,
seek
you
know,
authorization
to
establish
a
new
fee
for
or
at
least
a
reimbursement
of
you
know,
probably
partial.
I
mean
I
think
one
one
review
up
front
is
good,
but
what
we
get
into
are
multiple
iterations
and
frankly,
sometimes
the
developers
are
using
us
for
quality
control
and
or
or
our
engineer
of
records,
rather
than
their
own.
J
So
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
get
into
a
posture
where
you
get
one
one
courtesy
review
of
your
stormwater
plan
and
you
know,
and
then
the
next
one
you
start
paying
for
those
in
some
either
full
or
partial,
something
so
that
it's
not
entirely
on
the
city.
You
know
to
to
do
that
so
so
this
is
a
new
item.
You
know
to
start
that
program,
but
again,
we've
been
we've
been
doing
the
storm
water
reviews
out
of
the
public
public
works
budget
under
their
engineer
of
record
services
with
the
same
stormwater
consultant.
J
So
it's
just
kind
of
moving
that
over
to
our
budget,
where,
where
it
belongs,
the
other
we
have
the
connect.
Tarpon
springs
engagement,
software
annual
renewal
we've
had
that,
for
this
is
about
the
third
year
I
think.
Last
year
it
wasn't
in
my
budget
for
renewal,
but
this
year
it
shows
up
in
my
budget
for
renewal.
So
it's
a
citywide
platform
for
public
engagement.
So
if
you
google,
connect,
tarpon
springs,
you'll
find
it.
So
that's
just
an
annual
ongoing
cost
for
the
software
as
a
provider
service.
J
Under
professional
services,
you'll
see,
it
says,
connect
tarpon
engagement,
the
we
also
are
asking
for
an
additional
fifteen
thousand
dollars
toward
public
engagement.
For
our
comprehensive
plan
update
the
comp
plan.
Update
is
ongoing.
Now
we
have
a
consultant
doing
that,
but
the
public
engagement
side
is
really
on
us,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of.
You
know
an
expectation
to
do
more
and
to
try
every
avenue
that
we
can
to
get
the
public
more
actively
involved
in
these
complex
in
these
updates
and
then
frankly,
sometimes
it's
like
pulling
teeth.
J
J
J
We
really
think
it's
important
that,
since
the
consultant
is
doing
the
plan,
that
they
be
there
lockstep
with
us,
so
that
is
that
additional
money
really
is
to
finish
the
process
which
will
be
after
this
fiscal
year
will
probably
be
in
january
february
march
time
frame.
So
that
is
an
additional
line
item
that
we're
asking
for
just
for
public
engagement.
Yes,.
J
It's
not
it
wasn't.
The
consultant
didn't
ask
us
to
do
this.
We've
been
this
was
the
city
staff
I
mean
we
have
been
we've
been
using
social
media,
we've
been
doing
direct
mails
we've
been
using
the
utility
bill
inserts
we've
been
using
everything
that
we
can
we're.
You
know
we're
still
not
getting
as
much
participation
as
we
would
like,
but
we
continued.
I
mean
that
it
direct
mail
is
still
an
effective
way,
believe
it
or
not
in
tarpon,
to
get
get
people
to
pick
up
and
read
something
and
show
up.
J
So
that's
so
we're
trying
to
get
which
I
use
the
utility
bills
when
we
can,
but
it
takes
five
cycles
to
hit
every
house
in
tarpon
springs
with
the
utility
bills,
so
sometimes
we
still
have
to
do
a
direct
mail
out.
For
you
know
this
is
yeah.
We
don't.
We
don't
update
the
comprehensive
plan
more
than
once
about
every
you
know,
10
15
years,
so
it's
important
to
get
the
once
we
get
through
the
comp
plan.
I
don't
think
direct
mailing
to
the
mass
all
of
tarpon
springs
will
be
on
our
agenda
very
much.
J
It
is
hard,
let's
see
the
multimodal
quality
of
service
update.
We
have
a
quality
of
service
report
that
again
was
done
back
in
2009,
2010
time
frame
that
focuses
on
kind
of
an
expanded,
downtown
area.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
community
redevelopment
area,
only
a
little
bit
larger
includes
the
sponge
docks
and
it
the
it
was.
It's
adopted
part
of
our
comprehensive
plan
in
the
transportation
element
we
do
want
to
get
that
updated.
J
J
If
you
need
something
to
you
know,
go
away
that
might
be
a
that
might
be
a
candidate
to
do
so.
I
I
do
want
to
try
to
keep
it
in
and
get
that
updated
eventually,
but
it's
not.
It's
not
die
hard
critical
right
now.
Let
me
see
the
other,
the
other
item
in
there.
You
see
click
to
go.
That
is
to
allow
the
planning
department
to
re
to
to
a
lot
with
so
people
apply.
J
For
you
know,
applying
for
site
plan
approval,
there's
a
fee
associated
with
that
right
now
we
still
have
to
collect
checks
and
take
them
to
the
clerk's
office.
We
don't
have
the
online
fee
payment,
but
to
get
that
established,
we
have
to
work
with
the
provider
to
set
that
whole
system
up
again.
This
is
one.
That's
frankly,
in
my
opinion,
is
a
nice
to
have
and
it's
something
that
could
be
cut.
J
J
D
J
Planned
correct,
it's
not,
and
I'm
hoping
that
some
of
these
you'll
see
we.
You
know
we
put
an
increase
back
in,
for
it's
called
it's
under
other
current
charges
line
49.!
J
So
we
try.
We
took
that
down
by
five
thousand
dollars.
I
think
last
year,
looking
at
what
we've
had
to
spend
this
year,
we
do
get
those
reimbursed
again
on
the
back
end.
By
most
of
it
I
mean
every
once
in
a
while.
We
have
to
do
an
ad
ourselves
because
of
something
that's
being
slowed
down
because
of
us,
but
we
but
those
largely
do
get
reimbursed.
But
that
is
another
increase
that
you
see
going
back
up
to
the
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
J
Everything
else
is
kind
of
you
know
so
because
I
now
have
four
planners
with
professional
memberships,
so
you
do
see
a
little
bit
of
an
increase
in
you
know,
conference.
You
know,
training
budget
for,
for
you
know,
and
dues
for
four
aicp
memberships
versus
three
that
we
had
the
year
before.
J
J
B
J
A
J
J
A
I
I
do
good
afternoon
kevin
powell
building
development
department
kind
of
looking
through
the
budget,
not
a
lot
of
big
changes
from
last
year
to
this
year.
I
We
are
budgeting
another
vehicle
in
there,
as
we
had
a
position
added
and
with
that
position
it
did
not
come
with
a
vehicle,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
budget
for
for
a
vehicle.
For
that
inspector.
The
new
position
created
for
our
field
inspector.
I
Sir
okay,
yes,
sir
yeah
they
trying
to
figure
out
what
department
to
put
it
in,
they
put
it
in
my
department.
It
came
with
the
position
no
vehicle,
so
so
now
we're
gonna,
you
know,
have
to
obviously
budget
for
one
of
those,
our
department
is
primarily
funded
by
the
general
fund.
I
I
That's
going
to
start
reducing
the
cost
from
general
fund
into
those
technologies,
with
our
online
plan
review
our
phone
scheduling
and
our
our
text
scheduling.
So
a
lot
of
those
technologies
will
start
to
offset
from
a
technology
fee.
So
we
did
adjust
the
the
budget
or
not
our
budget,
but
our
fee
schedule.
So
once
we
get
that
all
implemented,
we
should
see
less
coming
out
of
general
fund
next
budget
cycle.
I
Pretty
much
everything
has
stayed
the
same.
If
you
have
any
questions
of
what
you
see
in
there
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
assist.
I
The
drone
we
are
going
to
that's
going
to
come
out
of
our
tree
budget,
shannon
is
the
one
who
mainly
uses
that
the
drone
we
have.
We
are
not
able
to
use
anymore
with
the
technology
for
public
service
chinese
technology,
and
we
cannot
use
it
after
next
year.
D
I
Mainly,
what
we're
using
it
for
are
some
roof
inspections.
When
we
get
two-story
roofs,
we
don't
want
our
inspectors
on
the
roofs
when
they
were
building
the
mirrors
apartment
complex.
They
had
the
the
four-story
stair
tower
and
we
would
have
to
get
up
on
the
scaffolding.
Look
at
all
the
steel.
Within
this
the
the
concrete
blocks
we
were
able
to
put
the
drone
up
there.
I
We
were
able
to
talk
to
the
the
the
contractor
that
was
up
on
the
scaffold
he
was
able
to
pull
his
tape
measure
out
and
and
answer
the
questions
we
have
so
it's
kind
of
a
safety
item
on
the
building
side.
We
also
use
it
for
floodplain
management
side.
So
once
we
get
flooding,
we
can
put
the
drone
up
and
start
mapping
what
is
going
on
with
that
and
then,
of
course,
shannon
mainly
uses
it
at
the
arborist
doing
the
tree
inventories
and
she's
the
primary
user
of
the
drone.
She
is.
I
Right
we're
we're
trying
to
to
keep
our
our
inspectors
on
the
ground
as
much
as
possible.
It's
not
always
possible
to
do
but
two-story
roofs,
I'd
rather
them
put
the
drone
up
and
there
again
we
can
talk
with
the
contractors
that
are
on
the
roof,
so
they
can
show
us
what
they're
doing
instead
of
us
standing
on
a
roof,
and
at
that
point
we
can
also
take
pictures
and
videos.
So
we
always
have
that.
I
Okay,
so
we're
a
tree
city
I
understand,
and
in
order
to
maintain
tree
city
status
and
and
other
grants
you
want
to,
you
want
to
inventory
the
tree
and
the
tree
canopy
within
your
city.
So
we
know
what
we
have
here.
You
know
people
say
we're,
always
cutting
down
trees,
we're
not
replanting
trees.
So
if
we
have
an
inventory
of
what
trees
are
in
the
city,
then
we
know
what
our
canopy
is.
You
know
you
remove
10
trees,
we
put
in
15
trees.
I
So
it's
it's
a
constant
record
of
of
what
trees
we
have
within
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
So
we
are
going
to
be
doing
a
tree
inventory
we've
put
in
for
a
grant,
and
it's
probably
going
to
be
about
a
year-long
process
to
inventory.
Every
single
tree
within
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
what
we
have
what
species
invasives
all
you
know
those
type
of
things,
so
you
know
just
doing
the
tree
inventory.
I
We
we
have
knowledge
of
what
is
here,
also
we're
able
to
big
plots
of
land
instead
of
walking
in
and
trying
to
map
out
what
is
there
we
can
actually
see
from
above
what
we
have
in
there.
So
it
just
also
keeps
our
people
out
of
out
of
the
bushes
as
much
as
possible.
I
That's
what
we're
working
towards
that's!
That's
the
goal:
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
university
of
florida,
we're
trying
with
the
grant
it
would
send
uf
students
here
to
do
a
lot
of
that
mapping
and
it
would
be
a
lower
cost
to
us
doing
that
with
the
grant.
I
believe
it
about
half.
I
think
ron
if
I
remember
right
on
that,
grant
yes,
but
it
would
cost
us
about
half
of
what
we
budgeted
for
the
tree
inventory.
D
Interesting
and
the
tree
bank
budget
went
down
a
bit
because.
I
People
aren't
budgeting
for
trees,
for
we
we
ask
other
departments
to
budget
for
trees
and
for
whatever
reason
they
don't
give
us
their
budget,
so
we're
not
going
to
assume
that
they
need
trees,
but
when
they
start
calling
for
trees,
I
say:
well,
I
guess
that's
in
your
budget,
you
did
not
budget
for
it
and
there's
specific
items
that
you
know
the
tree
bank
says
where
you
can,
where
you
can
use
the
monies
for
for
trees.
Okay,
it's
it's
not
just
randomly
placed.
I
Well,
we
some
of
the
other
departments.
They
will,
okay,
they
they
will
say
we're
removing
some
trees
at
the
park
and-
and
you
know,
we
want
to
use
a
tree
bank
to
put
trees
in
and
we
I
just
say
well,
did
you
budget
for
those
you
got
to
put
something
in
the
budget
where
you
know
we're
not
just
a
slush
fund,
then
they
get.
B
I
We
every
every
three
year
code
cycle
and
we're
in
the
second
year
of
a
code
cycle
so
the
next
year
there
will
be
code
books
that
we
have
to
purchase
again.
You
know
for
all
of
our
inspectors.
So
it's
it's
a
three-year
code
cycle,
we're
we're
in
between
that
right
now,
so
it
would
have
come
down
some.
Yes,
we
do
still
buy
code
books.
We
do
have
different
technical
publications
that
we
need
to
purchase
and
then,
of
course,
training,
but
it
will
go
up
again.
I
I
No,
you,
you
still
have
to
pay
for
them:
they're
they're,
not
giving
you
those
books
for
free,
they're,
they're
printed
from
the
international
code
council
and
there's
florida
specific
books.
So
we
can
look
online
to
a
to
a
point.
We
can
go
online
and
research
some
items,
but
to
have
the
book
we
highlight
we
tab.
You
know
when
there's
a
lot
of
questions
and
concerns
and
we
also
do
purchase
in
that
bundle
pdf.
So
they
are
on
our
tablet.
So
we
can
do
keyword,
searches
in
the
field.
I
We
added
one.
Last
year
I
have
three
building
inspectors
and
one
construction
field
inspector,
which
is
our
new
site
person.
The
engineering
department
that
we're
trying
to
re-establish
again
so
that's
a
whole
different
set
of
of
books
and
training
that
they
need
compared
to
what
my
building
inspectors
are.
Then
I
have
my
deputy
building
official,
who
also
works
in
the
field,
sometimes,
and
then,
of
course,
our
plans
examiner.
I
We're
reasonably
keeping
up
and
then
we
start
to
get
into
a
bind,
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
our
third
party,
our
municipal
support,
we
will
bring
them
in
or
their.
I
I
B
D
A
F
I'm
jeff
young,
the
chief
of
police
for
tarpon,
springs
police
department.
It's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
be
here
represent
the
men
and
women
of
our
department
and
the
city
brenda.
We
gave
you
a
packet,
it
kind
of
has
information
described
in
our
department.
If
any
of
you
all
ever
want
more
information,
please
feel
free
to
contact
me
and
we
can
sit
down
and
go
over
everything
individually
and
give
you
a
tour
of
the
police
department
and
other
facilities
that
are
under
our
care.
F
F
Obviously,
2021
and
2022
cost
of
everything
in
society
has
gone
up,
so
everybody's
budgets
are
going
to
see
an
impact
with
the
cost
of
goods
and
services
and
so
forth.
F
F
Have
53
sworn
we're
about
69
personnel
in
total,
with
the
16
civilian
positions
we
have.
We
also
have
an
additional
seven
part-time
crossing
guards.
F
Have
not
increased
in
personnel?
That's
right,
and
during
that
five
year
period
correct
we're
we've
been
at
53.
I
don't
have
the
exact
date
when
we,
since
we've
had
53
sworn
and
other
positions
so
yeah.
I
think
we
added
one
more
crossing
guard
position
a
couple
years
back
right
ron.
The
seventh
crossing
guard
position
was
a
few
years
back
so,
but
I
hope
that
answered
your
questions.
Yes,
okay.
Thank
you
on
the
next
slide.
Here
you
see
a
comparison
from
2022
to
2023
and
the
largest
portion
of
our
budget
increase
this
year.
F
F
You
know
these
are
all
finance
calculations
that
come
over
with
the
contract
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
pba
and
we
go
through
a
three
year.
Contract
we're
coming
up
to
2023
will
be
the
last
year
of
that
contract.
So
we'll
start
negotiations
again
in
january
for
the
for
the
next
three-year
contract.
F
So
we
have
53
sworn
officers
myself
and
the
two
majors
are
not
covered
under
the
contract.
Every
other
officer
is
covered
under
the
contract.
F
Vehicle
maintenance,
budgets-
and
you
could
see
you
know
over
the
over
the
years-
that
increase
is
going
to
be
going
up.
We
have
82
vehicles
now
when
we
say
vehicles,
46,
mark
patrol
vehicles,
22
unmarked,
plus.
We
also
have
message
boards,
so
you'll
see
those
put
up
around
town
all
over
the
place
in
that
we
also
have
trailers
one
of
the
trailers
that
we're
talking
about
there
is
our
speed
display
board.
F
So
we'll
get
that
out
there
to
get
to
gather
information
for
us
to
use
data
because
we're
data
driven
on
our
traffic
enforcement
efforts
and
where
we
should
be
placing
our
resources,
because
we
can't
be
everywhere
all
the
time.
So
we
try
to
look
at
the
data
and
collect
that
information.
We
also
have
a
zodiac,
which
is
a
rubber-sided
boat,
that's
really
primarily
for
our
swat
team
and
others.
F
If
there's
any
water
rescues
that
we
need
to
do
or
getting
into
tighter
areas
and
a
john
boat
that
we
acquired
a
couple
years
back
during
actually
a
hurricane
event
went
and
purchased
that
to
have
it
available
in
case
we
do
have
major
flooding
out
in
the
areas
where
we
cannot
get
to
and
having
a
metal.
John
boat,
you
know
would
be
ideal
as
opposed
to
putting
a
zodiac
in
with
all
the
tree
branches,
that'll
be
down
and
everything
else
that'll
be
down
during
a
hurricane
and
after
that
kind
of
an
event.
F
Next
screen
capital
outlay,
there's
only
one!
Well,
I
say
one
item,
one
project:
that's
in
there
it's
a
new
drones
that
we're
gonna
have
to
get.
We
currently
do
have
drones.
However,
the
state
has
changed:
the
mandate
for
law
enforcement
and
municipalities
as
a
whole.
As
what
manufacturer
we
have
to
use.
So
it's
kind
of
came
out
of
left
field
to
everybody,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
the
ones
that
we
currently
have.
F
B
F
To
correct
all
that
information
is
downloaded
daily
onto
our,
I
would
say:
watch
guard
correct
the
watchguard
system
that
we
have
and
that
information
is
kept
up
on
the
servers
and
then
they'll
bring
it
in
and
over
to
specific
cases.
So,
if
it's
involved
in
a
criminal
case,
then
we're
going
to
make
it
part
of
evidence
and
doing
it
that
way.
Other
than
that,
I
believe
it's
a
30-day
hold
on
90-day
hold
on
them.
F
90
days,
yes,
yeah,
that's
under
state
statute,
119
chapter
119
governs
public
records
laws,
so
we
have
to
look
at
those
things
unless
they
have
some
evidentiary
value
to
us
or
historical
value.
F
Yep,
so
that's
like
any
other
camera
systems
that
we
have
in
the
city
that
they're
on
a
90-day
loop,
yeah
that
information
gets
held
and
stuff
so
yeah,
that's
all
through
the
I.t
department.
Ours
are
held
internally
in
our
building
because,
again
the
nature
of
what
our
body
cameras,
cat
capture,
we're
going
into
people's
homes
and
such
so
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
not
public
record
on
under
119..
So
we
have
to
review
all
of
those,
and
I
think
what
you
might
be
referring
to
is
what
we
talked
about.
F
You
know
where
I
was
looking
for
when
you
brought
up
positions
last
last
time
I
was
looking
for
a
position
for
a
digital
evidence,
technician
position,
because
we
know
that,
with
the
body-worn
cameras
that
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
requests
for
those
things
and
it's
time
consuming
because
for
officer
hours
not
for
a
one
hour
video,
you
have
to
sit
there
and
watch
that
entire
one
hour.
Video
then
redact.
F
Everything
out
of
it
then
go
back,
watch
it
again
and
make
sure
that
you
redacted
everything
so
now
you're
looking
at
two
to
three
hour
project
for
one
person
on
one
public
records
request.
So
those
are,
you
know,
manpower
intensive.
So
I
think
that
might
have
been
one
of
those
things
that
you
were
trying
to
bring
back
to
your
memory.
There.
F
F
Up
here
on
the
revenue
portion
of
it,
you'll
see
some
of
the
revenues
that
do
come
in
so
on.
Our
off
duty
pay
you'll
see
a
74
000
line
item,
though
we
have
to
pay
the
officers.
If
they
work
in
off-duty
detail
and
it's
paid
by
the
event
we
pay
the
officers,
then
we
collect
from
the
individual.
So
like
let's
say,
the
merchants
association
is
having
an
event
downtown.
They
needed
four
officers,
we're
gonna.
They
get
a
minimum
of
three
hours,
we're
gonna
get
paid
by
them.
Then
we,
the
city
bills.
F
The
merchants
are
depart
association
that
comes
back
and
goes
back
into
the
accounts
and
ron's
people
take
care
of
that.
So
that
kind
of
that
74
000
right
there
it's
on
there,
but
it's
probably
coming
back
to
the
city
afterwards,
but
we
have
to
have
that
line
item
in
there
for
us
and
normally
that's
pretty
close
to
being
right
on
the
money
right
ron,
correct,
yeah,
then
then,
there's
another
about
392
812
dollars
that
we
recoup
from
the
school
board
annually.
We
have
a
contract
agreement
with
them.
F
F
Some
communities
elect
to
have
what
they
call
guardians
they're
there
for
one
purpose
and
one
purpose:
only
our
sros
are
there
for
multitude
of
things
and
take
care
of
problems
and
working
with
the
principals
at
the
schools
on
a
daily
basis,
as
well
as
the
parents
and
students,
for
you
know,
quality
life
issues
and
any
other
safety
factors
that
come
up
there.
F
F
I
don't
know
what
their
training
is
like
or
what
they
do,
but
here
in
florida
we
are
well
ahead
of
the
curve
and
especially
after
the
parkland
shooting
the
parkland
commission,
which
our
sheriff
was
actually
a
chairperson
on
a
lot
of
those
recommendations
came
out
of
that
on
that
event,
because
certain
things
needed
to
change
too,
we
were
ahead
of
the
curve
here
in
our
city.
F
We
already
had
an
sro
assigned
to
the
three
elementary
schools
he
flew
to
the
round
to
all
three
of
them,
so
we
were
kind
of
ahead
of
most
places
that
had
nobody
looking
at
at
the
elementary
schools
and
that
opportunity
came
about,
we
were
able
to
get
additional
personnel
to
go
out
to
the
schools.
F
I
won't
go
into
security
plans
of
every
school
and
everything
because
every
school
is
different,
they're,
not
all
designed
exactly
the
same.
They
try
to
limit
them
as
best
they
can.
You
know
how
old
the
school
is
and
wide
open
on
campus,
but
they
usually
try
to
have
only
so
many
access
points
and
trying
to
get
them
in
there.
But
some
are
you
know,
fences
and
things
of
that
nature
are
other
barriers
and
physical
barriers.
F
So
you
know
it's
unfortunate
that
you
know
if
somebody
wants
to
get
in
places,
they'll
try
to
figure
something
out
or
some
other
way,
but
we
work
excellent
with
all
the
school
administration
here
and
as
well
as
down
county
and
doing
evaluation
plans
at
the
beginning
of
each
school
year
with
our
sros
and
the
school
administration
and
making
any
recommendations
for
safety
on
campus.
F
The
other
portion
there,
six
thousand
dollars
roughly
comes
back
from
the
sheriff's
office,
with
our
partnership
with
the
sheriff's
office
narcotics
unit.
However,
most
of
this
year
I
had
to
pull
the
officer
the
detective
out
of
there
because
of
manpower
shortages.
You
know
right
now,
I'm
having
some
manpower
shortages
with
a
couple
that
were
out
long
term
with
covid
and
so
on,
so
on
and
so
forth,
still
have
one
out
been
out
for
almost
a
year
now
with
dealing
with
their
the
effects
of
that.
F
So
you
know
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
the
manpower
issues
that
we
have.
You
know
again.
I
did
present
that
at
a
previous
last
year's
budget
advisory.
F
Almost
yeah
almost
a
full
year,
so
does
that
mean
you
need
another
person?
Well,
we
can't,
but
I
don't
just
can't
just
fill
positions
that
I
don't
have.
I
I'm
allocated
so
many
positions
that
one
he's
filling
that
position.
Where
he's
you
know
under
workers
comp,
but
still
a
position
we
have
filled
during
the
these
are
the
we're
going
into
code
enforcement.
Now
there
we
go
our
code
enforcement
budget,
for
that
submitted
is
147,
408.,
obviously,
a
little
increase.
We
just
got
some
for
me.
F
Sad
news:
matthews
is
resigning
from
the
code
enforcement
position,
so
we'll
be
out
looking
for
a
new
code
enforcement
officer,
she's
taken
a
position
with
the
county
code
enforcement
office
and
so
we'll
be
looking
for
a
new
code
enforcement
officer
in
the
interim
I'll,
be
assigning
a
police
officer
to
that.
So
now
that
just
takes
another
body
away
from
where
I
can
do
stuff.
So.
F
You
rob
peter
the
pay
pal
right,
so
we
do
what
we
can
do,
but
it'll
all
work
out
and
you
know
we'll
find
the
best
person
to
fill
that
position.
A
civilian
position
which
it
is
any
questions
on
code
enforcement.
F
Was
you
know,
obviously
pay
increase
and
and
opportunity,
and
what
she
said
was
opportunities.
It
wasn't
just
pay
alone,
but
opportunities
for
career
advancements,
because
here
she's
at
the
highest
position
in
that
department.
J
F
F
You
know
I
mean
we,
we
do
substitute
by
paying
overtime,
that's
how
we
do
it.
You
know
so
we'll
work
with
that
we're
working
with
the
workers,
comp
people,
the
human
resources
department's
on
the
phone
with
them
constantly
and
working
with
them
on
seeing
how
we
can
best
suit
the
individual
too
and
our
needs.
You
know
we
do
do
cover
it,
but
you'll
see
that
that's
why
our
overtime
rate
has
increased
some,
because
we
have
to
backfill
those
slots,
whether
I
pay
somebody
else
or
just
pay
overtime
to
cover
it.
H
F
There's
the
the
the
fbi
has
what
they
call
a
ratio
of.
I
think
it's
2.4
per
thousand
is
the
average
for
a
mid-size
department
throughout
the
country.
I
think
we
are
right
around
2.1.
I
think
right
now
per
thousand
somewhere
around
there.
I
don't
have
the
number
right
off
the
top,
but
I
think
it's
2.1
2.3
so
we're
there,
but
with
the
population
growth
that
we're
having
and
expecting,
then
you
could
look
at
those
numbers
to
get
down
even
further
away
from
that
2.4.
So
you
know
I
I.
H
F
We
all
already
have
ikea
or
ickeria.
I
could
never
pronounce
that
one
ikea,
hickory
apartments,
yeah
ikea's
a
store
yeah
so
but
you
know
with
those
increases
of
population
in
any
of
those
plus
subdivisions
going
up
on
the
north
bend
subdivision
up
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
river
and
a
few
others
going
up
on
the
east
side.
F
So
you
know
we
can
expect
some
population
growth
and
I
think,
in
a
proposal
I
put
together
last
year,
where
I
asked
for
that
one
body
that
you
were
talking
about
and
six
additional
officers
to
get
to
the
to
stay,
pretty
product
close
to
that
2.4
ratio
per
thousand
served
based
on
the
population
growth
of
our
city
over
the
that
time
last
year.
Moving
forward
to,
I
think
I
did
a
three-year
projection.
F
B
F
Yes,
and-
and
here
again
like-
and
I
know
I
sat
in
here
with
my
predecessor,
chief
coach,
when
he
talked
to
you
about
that-
and
we
talked
about
unexpected
events,
we
can't
predict
a
hurricane
what
it's
going
to
do
and
how
much
overtime
it's
going
to
cost
us
or
how
many
days
we're
going
to
be
stuck
in
a
facility
and
we're
paying
our
officers
24
hours
a
day
and
whether
or
not
ron's
got
ever
going
to
see
the
reimbursement
from
the
federal
money
because
there's
no
guarantee
unless
the
state
of
emergency
is
declared
and
we
have
were
impacted
but
we're
there
preparing
for
it,
regardless
police
and
fire
and
public
works
and
stuff
so
we're
there
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
until
the
city's
no
longer
in
that
threat
zone
and
that
cost
money
that's
just
hurricanes,
then
I
have
you,
know:
death
investigations
or
anything
else,
more
serious
crimes,
that'll
take
a
lot
of
detectives
and
a
lot
of
manpower
to
to
allocate
towards
that,
and
that's
a
lot
of
overtime
that
comes
out
of
those
types
of
things
and
those
come
up.
F
You
know
a
couple
years
back
had
a
triple
homicide
that
had
to
send
people
out
of
state
all
over
the
place
and
searching
for
individuals.
So
you
know
that
can
come
up
at
any
time
any
day
and
that's
why
our
overtime
budget
fluctuates
so
much
and
some
sometimes
it's
never
not
near
enough.
I
can't
imagine
any
year
that
we
ever
came
in
well
under
we're
usually
right
around
that
number.
F
I
know
that
the
budget
advisory
actually
had
increased
it
about
two
years
ago
and
you
know
making
it
a
little
closer
to
that
for
us
and
fire,
and
you
know
it's
very,
very
well
appreciated
yeah.
H
F
Is
you
know,
and
how
do
you
how
you
manage
it?
You
know
and
I'm
putting
out
emails
to
my
two
majors
telling
them
hey
we're
at
46
of
the
year,
but
I'm
at
51
percent
of
my
overtime
budget.
Let's
try
start
looking
at
everything
a
little
closer,
so
you
know
they
do
a
great
job
at
doing
that,
but
we
are
never
going
to
stop
doing
what
we
need
to
do
and
money
will
not
be
the
obstacle
in
serving
the
citizens.
H
F
You
very
much
where
we
got
now
federal
equitable,
sharing
kind
of
can
throw
both
of
these
things
into
the
one
account
there.
Federal
equitable
sharing
comes
from
our
dags
from
our
partnership
with
the
dea,
the
drug
enforcement
agency,
so
money's
come
in
there.
We
use
that
money
to
try
to
fund
our
swat
team
k9
unit
and
some
additional
patrol
stuff.
Our
website
maintenance
and
things
like
that.
Come
out
of
that
annually
that
money
comes
in
periodically.
Sometimes
it's
faster.
Sometimes
it's
slower
a
few
years
back.
F
It
was
non-existent
coming
in,
because
federal
government
said
we're
putting
a
hold
on
that
all,
but
we
are
seeing
that
trickle
in
a
little
bit
more
now
too,
and
then
we
also
have
a
local
fund
too.
The
the
other
plan,
of
which
one
was
that
one
call
around
the
confiscated
trust
confiscated
trust
fund.
Thank
you
couldn't
remember
it
often
ahead
that
one's
from
the
local
money
I
talked
to
you
about
coming
from
the
sheriff's
office,
with
our
partner
with
ship
with
them
and
what
they
call
haida.
F
F
I
guess
by
the
drug
that
come
in
from
all
over:
it's
not
just
the
tarpon
springs
or
pinellas
county
issue,
we're
on
the
border
with
pasco
county
hillsborough
county
to
to
west,
so
we're
working
in
cooperation
with
every
agency
that
we
can
and
being
partners
with
everybody,
because
it's
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
to
have
any
effect
on
on
the
illegal
drug
trade.
That's
coming
in
and
ruining
people's
lives
and
killing.
F
Far
too
many
people
right
now,
especially
with
the
fentanyl
and
the
tragedies
that
you
see
there,
and
you
know.
F
F
They
can
give
that
to
them
and
it
usually
recuperates
that
individual
rather
quickly
so
we've
probably
and
we've
saved
quite
a
number
of
people,
so
that
number
could
have
been
even
higher
if
we
didn't
have
that
resource
available
to
them,
and
we
get
that
through
the
medical
director's
office
with
the
county
and
that's
a
county-wide
project
that
everybody's
involved
in
you
know,
so
the
numbers
could
be
far
worse
and
but
we
try
our
best
to
do
and
you
know
be
there
as
quickly
as
possible,
just
like
you're
saying
about
the
officers
getting
there
in
a
timely
fashion.
F
You
know,
and
then
I
get
a
listen
to
other
people
call
me
and
tell
me:
why
are
your
police
going
so
fast?
Well,
once
if
you're
they're
coming
to
you,
I
think
you
want
them
getting
there
faster.
So
you
know
so
those
those
are
all
the
things
that
would
you
know
and
encompass
that,
and
hopefully
that
answers
some
of
the
questions
with
the
federal,
equitable
sharing,
as
well
as
the
other
fund,
and
I
think
that's
it
for
just
all.
I.
B
F
F
C
C
Election
cost
estimates
for
next
year,
approximately
thirty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
two
dollars
for
a
same-day
election
with
other
municipalities
and
in
addition
to
those
costs,
there's
other
such
costs.
That
range
between
three
to
eight
thousand
dollars
for
legal
publications,
bilingual
language
compliances.
C
And
reprinting
of
valid
and
mail
ballots,
postage
and
poll
place
change
mailers
with
an
inconjunction
election,
which
is
basically
an
election,
that's
tacked
on
with
a
county
or
federal
election.
The
estimated
cost
for
next
year
are
between
thirty
three
hundred
dollars
and
sixty
eight
hundred
dollars,
depending
if
it's
a
one
or
two
card
printed
ballot.
Some
of
the
other
large
items
that
make
up
the
clerk's
operating
budget
are
recording
fees,
code,
book
supplements
and
copier
printer
rental
and
legal
ads.
C
Did
you
only
go
on
and
finish
collections
or
do
you
want
me
to
stop
in
case
there's
questions
in
on
the
clerk's
side.
C
On
the
collection
side
that
can
be
found
on
pages
246
to
248,
the
collections
operating
budget
is
approximately
41
507
with
one
of
our
highest
expenses.
At
thirty
two
point:
eight
percent
for
support
and
maintenance
for
our
interactive
voice,
recognition
system.
This
is
the
our
phone
system
that
allows
customers
a
different
option
to
make
payments
by
phone
24
7
in
real
time
to
their
accounts.
C
The
second
highest
expense
is
approximately
24.3
percent
of
of
our
budget
and
that's
for
postage
of
delinquent
letters,
and
this
fee
you'll
see,
is
taken
out
of
non-departmental
and
then
throughout
the
year
and
at
the
end
of
the
year
it's
put
back
and
taken
out
of
our
budget
as
a
whole.
C
These
two
items
make
over
57
percent
of
our
overall
collection
operating
budget.
As
for
captur
capital
outlay,
which
is
now
under
the
operating
system.
The
only
thing
we've
increased
in
this
budget
was
20,
there's
2
175
and
that
was
to
help
fund
computers
and
monitor
replacements
needed
in
the
on
that
side.
C
Other
than
that
for
machinery,
we've
been
pretty
lucky.
We,
if
you
ask
my
staff,
sometimes
they're
not
too
happy
about
it,
but
we
keep
machines
until
they
break
or
there's
no
longer
any
parts
and
we've
been
fortunate
to
plan
once
we
start
finding
a
difficulty
to
find
parts
for
replacement
or
repair
since
coverage.
C
Yeah
microfilm
readers
such
things
like
that
since
cobit
it's,
it
has
been
challenging
at
times
to
fill
vacancies,
causing
additional
workloads
and
sometimes
over
time
to
go
up.
But
my
office
continues
to
look
at
ways
to
streamline
processes,
maintain
compatible
convenience
fees
and
payment
options,
as
well
as
looking
at
ways
for
the
clerk's
side
to
improve
time
management
and
software
for
better
transparencies
and
efficiencies
and
records
management
and
minutes
for
our
residents.
C
Right
now
we're
down
two
positions:
we're
only
on
office
of
the
on
the
collection
side.
We
have
four
and
we're
down
a
person
on
that
side
and
on
the
clerk's
side,
including
myself
and
michelle,
we
have
four
and
we're
also
down
a
position
on
that
side.
C
Hopefully
we'll
be
interviewing
this
week
for
the
collection
side
on
the
records
management
side,
we're
missing
our
record
specialist
position
and
there
again
the
person
left
for
higher
pay
wages
over
a
year
ago,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
replace
that
we've
had
several
attempts
and
either
they
we
have
a
very
slim
for
for
the
position
for
that
software
and
the
certification
for
that
software.
C
The
pay
scale
isn't
so
it's
basically
you
could
you
can
get
someone
that
doesn't
have
that
certification,
but
then
you're
giving
them
the
training
and
then
they
move
on,
because
to
get
that
training.
If
you
have
that
training,
you
can
get
a
better.
You
know
higher
pay.
C
It's
on
base
is
what
we
use.
We
are
looking
at
ways
to
see
you
know
back,
we've
had
it
since
2000.
I
believe
we
we
do
have
a
committee.
Looking
at
you
know,
is
it
feasible
to
change
that
because
we're
we're
looking
at
things
to
you
know
for
to
streamline
processes
such
as
you
know,
looking
at
agenda
management
minutes
things
like
that
that
take
a
lot
of
time
that
would
be
more
efficient
running
through
one
system
and
a
lot
of
people
use
a
certain
type
of
software.
C
C
We
haven't
chosen
we're
still
looking
at
interviewing
and
getting
demos
and
and
things
that
would
be
compatible
and
not
a
lot
of
people
are
compatible
with
onbase
is
what
we're
finding
to,
and
you
know
in
the
older
days
we
used
to
have
so
when
we
have
a
records
management
issue.
You
know
you
have
to
see.
Is
it
feasible
to
migrate
something
so
I'm
still
old
school?
C
You
know
2000
ytk,
so
so
now
you
know
we
have
like
if
it's
something
michelle
has
been
our
deputy
city
clerk
has
been
here
going
on
36
years
and
I'm
33
going
on
34..
C
So
we
have
a
lot
of
institutional
knowledge,
but
if
you're
looking
for
a
records
request,
if
it's
prior
to
2000,
we
have
to
go,
look
in
one
system
and
if
it's
after
2000
we're
looking
on
base,
so
we're
trying
to
find
something
that
gets
involved.
You
know
and
not
have
multiple
systems
that
we're
looking
for.
C
And
I
encourage
everybody
like
I
said,
the
citizens
academy
is:
where
residents
we
it's
free
of
charge.
We
usually
have
25
a
class,
we
were
doing
two
a
year
and
then
with
covid
we
kind
of
had
to
cease
that
we're
starting
back
up
and
we're
going
to
do
at
least
one
a
year
right
now
and
I
encourage
all-
we've
had
many
board
members
that
have
come
because
of
that
some
employment.
Because
of
that-
and
it's
a
really
oh,
you
can't
harm
me
a
great
program
to
to
get
a
more
in-depth.
C
A
more
in-depth,
but
you
know,
look
at
the
city
and
the
in
the
works
of
the
city.
Yeah.
D
D
C
To
go
through
it,
no,
no,
it
wasn't
a
requirement,
but
a
lot
of
the
boards
started.
Even
you
know,
as
employees.
I
think
when
we
put
this
program
together,
it
was
through
a
suggestion
of
a
commissioner
who
did
the
pinellas
county
leadership
program,
which
is
a
big
fee,
and
you
have
to
pay
to
do
that.
C
One
and
and
look
trying
to
condense
some
of
these
programs
and
what
they
were
going
to
be
because
we
go
to
different
locations
and
visit
during
that
program,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
things
even
I
had
been
here
for
years,
multiple
here.
You
know
that
I
thought
they
do
that.
I
I
mean
I
didn't
know
that
that
was
like
I'll
give
you
example
like
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
I
didn't
know
that
it
was
so
technical
and
it's
all
the
testing
they
do
and
it's
like
a
chemistry,
lab
and
and
all
the
requirements.
C
B
A
Ron
herring
finance
director
how
you
doing
today,
let's
go
over
the
finance
department
budget
on
page
15.
A
and
we
got
seven
employees
of
the
finance
department
they're
just
right
across
the
hall
over
here
shane's
one
of
them,
I'm
very
fortunate
to
have
such
a
good
staff.
I
I
did
lose
two
members.
Just
in
the
last
few
months,
people
found
out
they
could
work
remote
one
lived
in
tampa
tampa,
so
that
was
a
farther
drive.
A
A
Was
going
to
say
she's
short
of
person,
because
we
took
her,
I'm
sorry,
no,
I'm
not,
but
they
seem
to
be
hopefully
both
working
out
great.
So
that's
why,
in
the
personnel
area
you'll
see
some
changes
because
some
of
the
salary
changes
some
along
with
the
the
three
percent
funding
increase.
A
You'll,
see
health
and
health
insurance
went
down
some.
You
wonder
well
how
we
did
we
budgeted
10
percent.
Well,
the
couple
people
that
left
had
family
coverage
so
we're
not
paying
for
that
for
their
family.
One
had
family
coverage
and
one
had
spouse
coverage,
which
the
city
helps
pay
a
portion
of
that
so
that
reduced
that
travel
expense.
As
you
can
see,
we
got
3
500,
we
haven't
really
haven't
spent
much,
but
one
of
our
big
conferences
at
the
end
of
june.
A
A
You
might
see
something
I
want.
Maybe
I
should
explain
it
something
called
interdepartmental
allocation.
You
might
see
it
there
and
might
wonder
what
this
is
and
you'll
see
a
negative
amount
it.
What
we
are
trying,
what
we
do
with
that,
the
library
department
and
the
fire
department
we
get
money
back
from
from
the
county
for
those
departments.
So
we
try
to
what
we
do.
We
use
a.
We
have
a
calculation
of
trying
to
charge
those
departments
which
increases
our
reimbursement
from
the
county
for
police
and
fire.
A
So
our
work
as
far
as
for
the
police
and
fire
departments,
we
charge
those
departments,
but
then
we
credit
this
department
and
using
the
same
calculation
we
had
this
year.
We
saw
a
decrease,
I'm
not
sure
it
was
coveted
related,
but
one
of
our
calculations
is
number
of
purchase
orders
and
that
we
use
so
there
was
less
of
them,
which
and
that's
why
our
budget
increased,
because
that
credit
was
less
this
year.
B
I
I
I
got
it
okay,
it's
not
you
doing
your
magic
act.
A
So
it's
less
of
a
credit
thus
which
increased
our
budget
in
the
operating
category
there
got
it
point,
52
went
up,
we
got
a
new
computer
and
then
point
55
training.
Again,
that's
all
part
of
our
conferences
that
are
usually
later
in
the
year.
Like
I
say
this
one's
at
the
end
of
june.
A
A
D
I
have
a
general
question
about
just
the
salary
increases
just
so
I
can
understand
the
last
meeting
we
talked
about.
We
were
waiting
on
the
millages
to
come
in
to
see
kind
of
where
things
landed
and
you
had
given
everybody
guidance
on
the
increases,
but
that
that
might
be
different
once
we
got
those
rates
right.
So
when
everybody
includes
their
salary,
their
increases
in
salaries
is
that
based
on
the
guidance
and
then
this
might
change
based
on
millages
or
is.
A
D
A
D
A
I
estimated
a
five
percent
increase
in
the
taxable
values
for
the
city
we
average
about
six
percent.
We
just
got
the
estimate
yesterday,
it's
12.86
percent,
oh
wow,
so
it
almost
doubled.
It's
I
haven't
seen
it
that
high
and
I
think
forever
so,
but
that's
an
estimate.
The
truly
certified
values
come
july
1st,
but
there's
usually
not
much
difference
between
the
estimate.
That's
a
huge.
D
A
D
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
so
these
numbers
that
we're
seeing
here
is,
if,
like,
is
this,
what
they're
asking
for
as
approved
or
will
there
be
potential
changes?
Because
I
know
you
would
everybody
had
wanted
to
increase
wages
a
little
bit
more
because
of
the
current
environment,
it's
hard
to
find
people
right.
A
Right
there'll
be
another
addition
of
the
budget,
there's
probably
going
to
be
two
or
three
more
we're
going
to
do
another
one.
You
know
for
the
board,
probably
after
we
go
through
your
meetings.
The
city
manager
wants
to
have
a
meeting
with
the
board
of
commissioners
to
find
out
their
priorities.
I
think
a
meeting
in
june,
and
we
so
we
will
have
more
additions
on
the
budget.
There
is
a
talk
of
putting
in
funding
a
five
percent
increase
instead
of
the
three
percent
for
everybody,
so.
A
Right
and
I
think
what
the
city
management
he's
been
meeting
with
those
other
city
managers
and
they're,
seeing
where
a
lot
of
cities
are
getting
looking
towards
five
percent.
So
that's
why,
behind
a
little
bit,
so
we
don't
want
to
fall
behind
and
lose
people.
So
we're
saying.
Maybe
we
need
to
go
ahead.
You
know,
since
the
taxable
values
went
up,
let's
in
the
next
edition
of
the
budget.
B
A
B
A
And
I
think
we
had
a
two
percent
decrease
right
that
two
years
ago
last
year,
no
increase
and
we're
waiting
to
find
out
for
this
year.
B
A
B
B
B
Yeah,
take
a
look
at
those
areas.
Again,
I
know,
being
consistent
is
usually
good,
but
maybe
it's
not.
You
know
london
90
on
the
bill
outs,
the
inter,
oh.
A
A
Way,
but
in
the
background
mined
up
iterations,
you
know
we
need
to
look
at
that
and
stuff
and
just
yeah
when
I
was
looking
at
just
a
couple
days
ago.
What
you
know-
and
I
just
I
noticed
purchase
orders
were
less
and
that's
how
we
base
it
on
how
many
purchase
orders
did
fire
department
have
compared
to
the
total
city,
and
so
the
percentage
was
less
which
for
both
fire
and
library,
which
caused
that
charge
out
to
be
less
okay.
A
B
B
Any
other
questions
on
the
finance
so
head
count
wise,
you're
still,
one
short,
no
right.
B
A
A
Okay,
I
am
over
the
finances
over
the
utility
billing
department.
We've
got
page,
239
has
a
utility
billing
staff.
You
know,
we've
got
three
positions
down
there,
salaries
a
little
bit
of
an
adjustment.
We
had
some
new
people
down
there,
you'll
notice
point
34:
we
decreased
to
10
000
because
we
had
somebody
who
was
a
temp
being
charged
there,
who
decided
finally
to
work
full-time.
So
we
were
able
to
you
know.
A
A
Don't
really
have
much
else
of
a
budget.
There
is
some
travel,
but
they've
got
a
conference
coming
up.
A
Some
of
the
stuff-
I
know
there's
some.
I
noticed
some
expenses
were
a
little
on
the
low
side,
but
I
noticed
we
haven't,
got
all
the
bills
in
so
we
don't
have
like
a
whole
half
a
year
of
some
of
the
invoices
on
some
of
the
other
operating
supplies
in
point
52.
They
are
having
some
another
computers
and
some
monitors
as
part
of
the
increase
to
that
department.
A
Okay,
the
next
department
after
that
is
meter
readers
on
page
242.,
meter,
readers
meter,
readers,
we've
got
three
meter:
readers
meter,
technicians.
A
A
A
A
Fuel
cost
increase
was
another
category.
It
went
up.
Of
course,
we've
budgeted
a
for
all
across
all
departments.
You
know
the
increase
in
the
fuel
because
I
think
last
year
I
budgeted
at
three
dollars
a
gallon
this
year.
I'm
at
I
think
at
4.
490,
I
think,
is
what
I've
gotten
there,
not
knowing
what
the
price
of
fuel
is
going
to
be.
A
B
B
A
B
B
B
A
A
And
I
think
they're
still
looking,
they
got
the
sustainability
committee,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
they'll
be
looking
for
other,
because
even
with
meter
reading
they've
talked
about
you
know
getting
electric
vehicles
for
those
guys
to
drive
around,
and
I
think
the
problem
was
that
there
wasn't
a
pickup
truck
yet
because
they
need
something
to
be
able
to
separate
the
all
their
tools
and
stuff.
So
I
think
as
soon
as
maybe
they
get
a
pickup
truck,
we
might
look
into
an
electric
vehicle
for
the
meter.
Readers.
B
B
A
Well,
there's
reserves
in
in
every
fund
and
we've
got
like
32
separate
funds
depending
we
have
separate
funds
because
somebody
is
restricted
for
certain
purposes,
but
I
think
you're
talking
about
the
general
fund
reserves.
Yes,
I
have
we're
right
at
8.8
million,
that's
8.8,
that's
called
the
unassigned
fund
balance.
It's
basically
money,
that's
not
committed,
can
be
used
for
whatever
the
city
designates
it
for.
A
B
Where
my
mind
was
churning
even
from
the
beginning,
you
know,
I
know
that
we're
we're
getting
the
12.8
million
six
point.
Four
and
six:
is
there
any
thought
of
increasing
the
special
reserves?
Let's
admit
the
special
reserves
are
kind
of
the
squirrel,
putting
acorns
away
for
the
bad
day
to
degrade
it's
it's.
It's
like
safety
and
protection.
A
Well,
it
increased,
I
mean
arpa.
Money
is
separate
from
from
the
general
fund,
but
he
talked
about.
B
A
Well,
the
one
way
to
do
it
is
if,
since
our
taxable
values
are
at
12.86
percent,
you
know
there's
a
this
additional
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
revenue.
You
could
say:
okay,
let's
take
a
couple
hundred
thousand
this
and
reserve
it
off
and
increase
our
eight
point,
eight
million
to
to
nine
million.
A
B
We
did
a
fairly
substantial
in
my
opinion,
had
come
last
year.
I
know
there
were
still
wish
lists
out
there,
but
let's
just
be
careful
in
that
area.
Right
of
of
of
the
head
count
only
because
we're
we're
living
in
good
times
or
you
know,
12
percent
increase
in
assessed
value
tax
dollars
have
been
going
up.
Is
your
neat
little
chart
last
time.
B
A
Well,
my
concern
is,
I,
you
know,
finance
director
doom
and
gloom
or
something
like
that,
but
I
is
there
going
to
be
recession
in
a
year.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
it's
not
the
same
situation
but
2008
2009,
and
after
that
this
is
the
first
time
we
saw
taxable
values
go
down
and
of
course
I
meant
our
revenues
went
down,
but
luckily
we
had
the
reserves.
B
A
D
A
H
B
A
B
I
just
would
like
us
to
get
of
the
mentality.
Ask
the
whole
tarpon
screen
prepare
swirling,
some
of
that
money.
Don't.
A
So
we've
been
keeping
the
fund
balance
the
unassigned
fund
balance
at
8.8
million.
It's
been
just
hovering
right
there
yeah,
but
our
expenditures
are
going
up
right.
So
when
you
calculate
that
20
percent
yeah
there's
an
increase
needed
that
gap
between
the
minimum
and
the
8.8
million
is
getting
closer.
Now
we
used
to
be
down
probably
at
4
million,
so
we
had
4.8
million
of
excess
above
that
minimum
now
we're
at
3.8.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
increase
it
along
with
the
expenditures
that
that
fund
balance
minimum
is
based
on.
A
B
A
You
know,
and
something
else
is
coming
up
with
you
know
the
cost
of
projects
city
clerk
building
we
budgeted
1.3
million.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be,
maybe
double
that
so
I've
tried
to
you
know
we're
trying
to
we.
A
So
a
lot
of
things
are
costing
more
city
clerk
building
a
mango
street.
The
next
phase
that
everything's
coming
in
more
so
also
they're,
saying
well
ron.
We
got
to
find
the
money
so
we're
trying
to
take
it
across
different
funds.
What
are
allowable
funds
to
take
it
from
to
be
able
to
cover
those
costs.
B
B
A
A
D
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
Millage
information
personnel,
it
summarizes
it,
we've
got
for
the
first
time.
I've
got
fun,
balance
projections
five-year
for
every
fund.
If
you
go
into
those
specific
departments-
and
there
is
a
page
65
which
summarizes
the
different
funds,
beginning
balance,
revenues,
expenses
and
then
the
projected
ending
balances.