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I
As
you
guys
all
know,
we
lost
well
not
lost,
but
sue
went
over
to
the
fire
department,
so
I
don't
have
a
clerk
which
significantly
affects
our
earrings,
because
I
have
yet
to
learn
how
to
do
those
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
goes
with
putting
a
hearing
together
all
the
paperwork
and
everything
so
we're
kind
of
limbo.
They
haven't
even
posted
the
position
yet
so
with
that
being
said,
there's
more
than
a
good
chance.
You
guys
are
going
to
be
off
in
january.
I
J
I
I
can
do
this,
and
I
can
do
this,
which
kind
of
rolls
down
to
you
guys,
because
you
guys,
as
the
code
board,
are
what
empowers
the
knowledge,
sometimes
that
I
have
procedurally,
especially
what
I
hand
it
out
to.
You
was
Florida
State
statute
162,
it's
not
the
whole
statute,
but
it
kind
of
is
a
summary
of
what's
really
important
and
what
governs
not
only
the
code
board
and
what
they
legally
are
allowed
to
do,
but
also
what
a
code
inspectors
legally
allowed
to
do.
I
Even
though
I'm
a
police
officer,
I
still
am
a
code
inspector
and
code
inspectors
have
certain
duties
and
rights
and
legal
things
that
we
can
do
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
understand
is
I
still
work
under
the
united
states
constitution
for
everything
that
I
do
and
what
that
basically
means
is
the
Fourth
Amendment,
which
is
the
unlawful
search
and
seizures
aspect
of
the
United
States
Constitution
means
that
there
are
certain
things.
I
can't
do.
I
can't
look
over
people's
fences.
I
can't
traipse
around
in
their
backyard.
I
I
can't
fly
a
drone
over
somebody's
house
to
see
if
there's
debris
in
their
backyard
and
I
want
you
guys
to
kind
of
understand
that,
because
you'll
hear
me
a
lot
of
times
and
you've,
probably
already
gotten
used
to
where
I
start
talking
about
I
want
to
enter
it
into
the
record.
I
want
to
preserve
it
for
the
record,
because
part
of
this
learning
process
I
figured
out
that
the
back
side
of
you
guys,
which
is
the
appellate
court,
the
way
they
handle
appeals
is
strictly
what's
introduced
into
the
record.
I
If
we
don't
put
anything
into
the
record,
the
appellate
court
really
has
nothing
to
look
at.
They
don't
interview
anybody.
They
strictly
look
at
listen
to
the
tapes
and
Tom
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
they
listen
to
the
tapes
and
they
review
the
paperwork
and
for
the
most
part,
that's
really
it
so
partway
through
you
guys
noticed.
I
I
started
to
introduce
a
lot
evidence
and
the
reason
why
is
that
is
to
preserve
that
record
so
that
we
have
a
good
record
and
I
learned
through
many
years
of
law
enforcement,
you're
always
better
off
having
more
than
not
enough
so
I
wanted
you
guys
to
understand.
That's
the
reason
why
there's
so
many
exhibits?
Now,
that's
not
going
to
change
I,
don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
adding
any
more,
but
we're
pretty
much
leveled
off
with
that.
I
There's
a
couple
times,
I've
noticed
where
questions
get
asked
that
are
kind
of
outside
the
scope
of
what
we're
trying
to
decide
and
and
the
long
and
short
and
simple
of
what
we're
trying
to
decide
is,
was
their
violation
first
off
and
is
the
person
or
group?
That's
here
the
violator,
and
that
really
is
the
long
and
short
of
it,
the
the
intricacies
kind
of
come
at
the
end
and
it's
similar
to
criminal
in
a
way
that
you
kind
of
decide
that
the
offense
occur.
I
I
Currently
what
we
do
is
we
hear
the
case,
and
you
guys
make
a
motion
that
so
and
so
is
the
fender
and
he
committed
the
offense
and
he's
got
30
days
to
take
care
of
it.
We're
going
to
charge
him
50
bucks
a
month
or
50
bucks
a
day.
What
I
respectfully
asking
the
board
is
to
consider
going
to
where
the
first
part
is
decided.
Are
they
guilty
is?
I
Think
I've
been
alive,
but
no,
no
offense
Tommy,
not
that
much
older
than
me,
but
he's
been
doing
this
longer
and
I've
been
a
cop
I
can
guarantee
that
so
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
off,
but
the
code
board
has
the
ability
to
order
certain
things.
I
don't
want
to
give
everybody
an
impression
and
suddenly
we
can
run
around
until
people
have
to
tear
houses
down
and
things
like
that.
There's
still
an
abatement
process.
I
The
city
manager
I
thinks
the
last
to
get
involved
and
sign
off,
but
the
board
does
have
the
ability
to
order
things
I.
We
can't
talk
about
specific
cases
or
anything,
but
you
can
imagine
there's
been
times
where
I've
seen
the
questions
and
kind
of
the
wheels
turning
about.
Well,
there's
this
pool
that
nobody's
doing
anything
about
and
we're
just
going
to
find
them
X
number
dollars
a
day
until
they
fix
it.
I
The
board
can
order
certain
things
to
occur
and
that
one
of
those
things
that
could
happen
is
the
board
can
order
that
that
pool
or
the
whatever
be
covered
securely
a
contractor
be
hired
and
it
be
taken
care
of
that's
covered
in
the
statue
and
it's
allowed
by
the
board.
That's
an
avenue
that
you
collectively
have
in
your
penalty
aspect.
Not
it
doesn't
always
have
to
be
a
fine,
obviously
that's
kind
of
the
the
wheelhouse
we're
used
to
working
in,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way.
I
You
can
you
know,
but
they
say
up
to
and
including
abatements,
but
don't
even
want
to
go
down
that
road,
so
I'm
handled
in
that
a
different
way,
but
you
certainly
do
have
the
ability
to
kind
of
think
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
fine
box
in
that
regard.
So
with
that
being
said,
the
other
aspect
and
I'm
going
to
pass
out
this
other
sheet
that
I
would
like
to
start
presenting.
If
the
board
has
no
significant
issue
with,
it
is
problem,
zeros.
I
I
Outside
of
the
normal
just
doing
my
job,
the
city
taxpayer
dollars
pay
for
food
inspector
to
go
out
and
do
certain
things,
but
bringing
a
case
before
the
board.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
a
reasonable
example
of
a
simple
case,
and
those
are
reasonable
costs
that
are
applied
to
that.
The
postage,
for
example
in
certified
mail
averages
anywhere
between
six
to
twelve
to
fourteen
dollars,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
envelope.
I
In
some
cases,
we
send
out
two
three
four
notices
to
or
one
property,
so
it
does
get
a
little
bit
expensive
and
the
thing
is
is
all
we
ever
want.
Is
compliance
from
these
folks
I?
Send
them
courtesy,
letters
I'd,
put
door
hangers
up
I
then
send
them
notice
of
violation.
I
then
send
them
final
notice
of
violation
before
I
bring
them
before
the
code
board.
I
So
we've
made
a
significant
effort
to
try
to
resolve
this
issue
before
I
have
to
have
them
come
before
you
guys
and
and
hear
this
case,
and
for
that
reason
there's
an
expense
that
goes
with
that
that's
burdened
by
everybody
and
in
fact
it
should
be
burdened
by
the
folks
that
are
violating
the
ordinance.
So
with
that
penalty
and
guilt
aspect
that
I'm
asking
for
and
I,
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
affect
the
motions.
I
But
if
we
choose
to
go
that
route,
the
motions
might
have
to
be
slightly
changed
and
just
broken
up,
and
this
is
we're
all
refer
to
get
some
help
from
Tom
on
how
to
actually
word
it
is
that
are
they
guilty?
Are
they
the
violator
and
other
guilt,
and
when
that
motions
been
decided,
I
would
then
present
the
prob
viously.
If
you
don't
decide
that
they're
guilty
we're
done,
have
a
nice
day
see
you
later
bye
moot
point.
I
I
Basically
guilty
or
not
guilty
and
then
the
penalty
side
of
it.
I
would
like
the
opportunity
to
suggest-
and
I'm
not
going
hey
where
everybody
in
the
world's
not
going
to
get
it
two
hundred
fifty
dollar
fine
and
things
like
that.
My
biggest
impact
will
be.
This
will
be
the
prosecution
costs
beyond
that.
Unless
there's
some
extraordinary
circumstances,
because
that's
when
I
would
normally
bring
up
the
prior
cases
in
criminal
cases,
you
can't
bring
up
somebody's
history
until
they've
been
found
guilty.
So
in
some
regards
this
is
quasi
judicial.
I
It
does
follow
some
of
those
rules
of
law
and
we
sometimes
talk
about
a
person's
history,
but
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
whether
or
not
they
committed
the
offense.
So
it
really
should
only
be
considered
at
the
penalty
aspect
of
the
case.
The
fact
that
the
guy
didn't
mow
his
yard
14
times
before
doesn't
mean
isn't
yard
mowed
now
do
you
follow
me,
my
logic
with
that
everybody's
allowed
that
opportunity
in
the
United
States
in
the
court
system?
Now
when
we
find
him
well,
he
hasn't
mode
his
yard
he's
before
the
board.
I
You
all
decide
he
hasn't
mode
ajar.
Now
we
look
and
go,
he
hasn't
motors
yard.
14
times
he's
a
repeat
violator
he's
been
before
you
guys
six
times
to
deal
with
us.
That's
where
you
know
the
court
uses
point
system
for
criminal
violations
hope
he
scored
enough
points
he's
going
to
prison
now
same
thing
can
apply
here.
You
have
a
sliding
scale
for
fines.
You
have
a
sliding
scale
for
certain
things
that
can
be
done.
My
opinion
is
that's
when
that
history
should
be
applied.
A
D
Sorry
go
ahead,
call
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
actually
agree
with
it,
but
a
the
matter
of
which
is
being
entertained
right
now.
I
do
have
an
issue
with
I
think
you
first
half
I
would
have
seen
this
with
this
should
going
from
the
commercials.
First
of
all,
they
should
be
aware
this
and
the
people
that
really
need
to
be
aware
is
the
community.
D
If
you
co,
danh
evoke
a
penalty
phase
like
this,
for
whatever
not
cutting
your
grass
and
you
have
to
go
out
there
multiple
times,
I
can
seek
costs
there,
but
I
think
that
you
have
to
inform
you
have
to
inform
the
community
that
this
is
going
to
happen.
If
you
don't
do
this
from
me,
I
want
and
that's
just
the
way
I
have
to
look
at
it.
D
You
know
I
can't
I
would
be
very
upset
if
I
was
on
the
other
side
and
I
came
in
here
for
a
hearing
may
not
cutting
the
grass
after
their
three
weeks
and
they
all
of
a
sudden
I
find
out
that
oh
there's,
also
a
prosecution
costs.
Where'd
that
come
from
you
say,
I
think
you
have
to
almost
inform
well.
I
do
agree
with
it.
I
Okay
right
and
maybe
in
there's
two
parts
I
can
tell
you
in
the
statute:
it's
allowed.
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
the
statute.
The
ignorance
of
the
law
is
no
excuse,
yada,
yada
yada.
The
other
thing
is
those
letters
that
I
send
them
previously
they're
attached
to
that
packet.
That
I
turn
is
evidence
clearly
states
what
they're
fine
is
up
to
what
they
potentially
could
be
faced
with
when
they
went
to
code
board,
they
have
been
informed
of
the
potential
the
Notice
of
Violation
states,
also
including
administrative
costs
and
I.
I
Don't
have
a
dollar
value
on
that.
The
the
dollar
value,
like
this
particular
non-existent
case,
that
I
did
it
documents
three
inspections,
that's
my
initial
inspection.
That's
me
going
out
after
I
send
a
courtesy
letter
tom
and
then
actually
probably
should
be
four
and
then
sending
out
a
notice
of
violation
prior
to
the
notice
of
hearing,
so
I
usually
do
about
an
average
of
four
inspections
where
I
go
by
and
take
pictures,
and
things
like
that,
so
that's
where
that's
where
it
comes
in,
it
is
included
in
the
notice
violation.
I
It
is
included
in
the
notice
of
hearing
the
only
one
it's
not
included
in
is
the
courtesy
letter,
because
by
law
I'm
not
required
to
issue
courtesy
letter.
We
do
that
strictly
as
a
courtesy.
I
also
use
these
little
fancy
green
door,
hangers
I'm,
wearing
happy
to
swing
by
all
y'all's
houses
and
hang
one
on
your
door
for
something.
If
you
want
to
say,
look.
E
I
I
If
you
don't
do
this
I'm
going
to
take
you
to
the
evil
code
board
and
they're,
going
to
find
you
and
they're
going
to
do
all
this
stuff
but
Manny
they
are
given
their
given
some
significant
information
prior
to
sitting
before
you
and
there's
this
is
you
guys
are
the
end
of
the
road
so
to
speak,
it's
gotten
to
this
point
and
it's
usually
for
whatever
it
may
be.
It
may
be
a
minor
thing
mowing
grass
or
it
could
be
a
substantial
thing
where
the
building
is
falling
down
and
the
neighborhood
kids
could
die.
D
To
just
I'm
glad
I
don't
know
that
first
yet
but
I,
don't
you
think
it'd
be
more
of
an
inducement
if
the
numbers
were
actually
on
that
letter.
You
know
if
I
have
to
come
out
here
again,
it's
another
ninety
dollars,
but
if
we
do
that,
okay,
if
you
do
this,
they
have
to
pay
the
fine.
None
of
this
that
you
know.
We
waive
that
right.
No,
it's
all
right.
No,
they
have
to
pay
the
fine.
We
either
do
this,
so
we
don't
have.
I
A
In
other
words,
somebody
knows
geez
if
I
don't
if
I
don't.
Finally,
after
the
third
pot,
you
know,
however,
many
contacts
if
I
don't
get
off
the
dime
now
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
to
code
enforcement
and
I've
already
facing
$185
in
expensive
I.
First
personally
think
that
the
city
is
certainly
entitled
to
regain
any
money
that
they
spent
in
all
this
effort
is
all
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
get
people
to
make
the
city
livable
for
all
cracked
off.
A
Somebody
wants
to
disregard
that
I
think
that
eventually
they
should
have
to
pay
okay,
so
I,
don't
think
epically
or
morally.
We
have
a
problem
with
it,
but
I
think
that
if
it's
spelled
out
to
them
now
the
person's
really
a
dumb
nut.
If
he
comes
in
he
or
she
comes
in.
Okay
still
hasn't
corrected
the
situation,
okay
and
they
know
that
their
face
and
not
only
a
fine
per
day,
but
they're
also
facing
that
these
are
the
administrative
Buster's
yeah.
I
I
I
can
certainly
attach
this
is
an
Excel
spreadsheet,
where
all
the
prices
are
all
fixed.
The
costs
are
all
fixed.
All
the
clerk
does
is
going
to
throw
a
quantity
into
it
and
does
all
the
math
for
you
I
print
it
out.
It's
got
the
case
number
on
it.
I
intend
it's
going
to
be
an
attachment
that
goes,
but
you
won't
see
it
on
the
case.
I
I
G
Also
entitled
to,
pursuant
to
the
ordinance
that
past
20
years
ago,
in
1996,
when
I
draft
it
the
first
time
so
the
public
has
had
notice
of
it
for
over
20
years.
It's
just
the
exact
dollar
amount
of
the
question.
Some
cities-
don't
do
it
at
the
original
hearing,
some
cities
do
it
at
the
compliance
non-compliance.
Hearing
ample
safety
harbor
will
bring
in
an
affidavit
of
compliance
or
noncompliance.
In
addition
to
that,
the
last
promotion
to
be
made
capture
the
costs
that
have
been
incurred
because
at
the
first
meeting
your
only
capturing
the
cost.
G
Through
that
point,
you
don't
actually
capture
the
cost
for
the
second
compliance
non-compliance
hearing
that
would
have
to
come
back
to
a
second
time,
so
some
cities
do
it
in
one
fell
swoop
at
the
compliance
non-compliance.
Hearing,
that's
what
my
suggestion
is.
Is
you
would
pick
up
all
of
your
costs
and
at
one
time,
instead
of
having
to
do
it
twice
either
that
or
do
it
one
time
in
the
beginning?
And
you
just
understand
that
you're
not
going
to
capture
well.
I
I
I've
already
done
some
places
nine
times
because
they're
out
of
compliance
and
that's
going
to
continue
on
because
I'm
legally
required
to
continue
to
inspect
these
properties
so
from
what
they
may
never
come
into
compliance
when
we
also
wouldn't
attach
those
costs,
but
we're
attaching
daily
fines
to
them,
and
I
agree
with
calm
and
if
the
boards
in
agreeance,
with
that
simply
what
would
happen
is
when
we
present
the
affidavits
of
compliance
there
be.
One
more
aspect
is
in
accepting
the
affidavit
of
compliance
you're.
G
Can
you
can
do
it
either
way?
I
understand
your
concern
on
a
non
compliance
hearing
that
there
will
obviously
be
additional
costs
past
that
I'm
just
trying
to
pick
up
those
two
hearings.
We
know
we're
going
to
immediately
come
before
the
board
Graham.
So
my
suggestion
is
that
you
capture
whether
its
compliance
or
non-compliance
you
captured
at
that
second
hearing,
okay
and
then,
obviously,
if
it
surprises
me
that
you're
out
there
doing
inspections
on
these
things
without
being
called
because
most
cities
don't
do
that.
G
G
You
can
present
it
at
any
time
that
you
want
and
the
board
is
going
to
have
to
consider
it
when
you
present
it,
but
but
we
can
work
on
the
motions
to
the
Phil,
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
in
this
transition
as
to
how
the
motions
will
read
so
the
board
members
will
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable.
Well.
I
I
I
would
I
agree
with
Tom
I
think.
Definitely
at
that
second
aspect,
and
even
if
they
go
into
non-compliance,
we
can
always
present
additional
costs
later
down
the
road
when
they
do
come
into
compliance.
So
hypothetically
I
present
this
for
a
non
compliance
when
we
have
the
affidavits
and
non-compliance
and
they're
up
to
X
number
of
dollars,
that's
ordered
by
the
board
and
it's
attached
at
that
point
in
time.
I
I
do
five
more
inspections
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
we
have
another
hearing
or
whatnot
I
would
present
at
the
affidavit
compliance,
those
additional
five
inspections
and
they
would
just
be
the
additional
cost.
That's
added
on
the
end.
If
that
the
board
agrees
with,
we
can
certainly
do
that
at
that
second
aspect:
it
doesn't
change.
I
would
still
prefer
to
go
to
the
guilt
penalty
aspect
and
we
just
leave
the
administrative
costs
out
at
the
initial
hearing,
because
in
that
penalty
phase
is
when
I
would
prefer.
I
I've
always
felt
uncomfortable
presenting
history
on
somebody
and
that's
probably
just
because
I've
been
in
the
criminal
court
or
so
long
I
didn't
like
ever.
You
could
never
bring
up
anybody's
history
to
decide
whether
they're
guilty.
It
could
only
be
used
as
a
penalty
and
I
think
it's
more
influential
and
more
effective
for
the
board,
because
we've
all
done
it,
we've
all
SAT
here
and
went
god.
I
It
is
and
when
that,
if
an
appeal
occurs,
there's
not
going
to
be
an
issue
where
you
were
swayed
by
me
presenting
in
history
and
and
all
these
things
that
really
couldn't
be
considered.
If
he
was
the
violator
and
did
the
violation
occur,
it's
those
simple,
two
things
that
have
to
be
decided
by
the
board
and
then
the
rest
is
just
the
penalty
aspect.
Does
that
sound
reasonable
to
everybody?
Are
we
okay
with
that
or
do
we
have
some
go
a
different
direction
or
just
stay?
What
we're
doing
and
we
move
on?
We
have.
G
Most
of
these
city
boards
do
do
that,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
think
on
the
fly
and,
frankly,
after
you
do
it
a
number
of
times
it's
kind
of
become
secondhand
nature
and
you're
kind
of
like
filling
in
the
blanks
as
your
own,
on
the
move.
One
thing
I
did
want
to
mention
to
officer
gas
and
is:
is
that
on
this
presentation
of
the
prosecution
costs
I
see
it
happening
one
of
two
ways
one
is
by
affidavit?
G
Okay,
so
if
you
list
it
by
affidavit
you're
going
to
present
those
affidavits
like
you,
do
an
affidavit
of
compliance,
otherwise
and
I
think
that
that
is
the
more
the
better
way
to
do
it,
because
it's
less
time
consuming
otherwise
you're
going
to
have
to
testify
that
you
went
out
there
and
did
three
inspections
that
you
did
a
courtesy
letter
and
it
cost
$15
descended.
Then
you
did
a
Notice
of
Violation.
G
I
did
fifteen
dollars
without
our
$25
bet,
and
you
have
to
go
down
through
this
long
list
and
I
will
tell
you
that
the
courts
circuit
court
county
court
whatever
when
they
consider
costs
they
consider
it
an
affidavit,
form
cost
affidavit,
and
so
you
can
do
the
same
thing.
That's
what
my
suggestion
is
he's
swearing
under
oath
that
these
are
the
costs
incurred
in
the
case,
and
so
that
has
some
credibility
to
it.
Otherwise
he
needs
to
do
it
here
in
front
of
you.
I
swear
under
oath
that
I
had
these
costs.
G
I
And
that's
why
there's
the
number
of
inspections,
the
courtesy
letters
are
different
costs
and
notice
of
violations
and
hearings,
because
their
simple
mailings
versus
complex
mailings,
if
you
will
and
that's
in
the
affidavits
of
compliance
and
non-compliance,
are
different
and
that's
kind
of
how
I
was
explained.
Yeah
you
had
to
individually,
you
couldn't
just
say
my
costs
or
200.
All
you
know
you
had
to
be
able
to
break
it
down
and
and
I
I
agree.
I
G
Other
thing,
I
would
kind
of
jump
in
here
say
it
when
most
cities
they
do
this,
they
break
down
the
time
spent
by
the
code
inspector
and
then
the
mailing
and
then
any
other
out-of-pocket
costs.
I
have
not
seen
it
where
you
have
courtesy
letter,
one
fifteen
dollars
it
is
that
the
time
that
it
cost
for
you
or
your
staff
member
to
prepare
that
letter,
because
if
it
is
my
suggestion,
is,
is
that
you
designate
that
that
is
the
labor
costs
involved
and
not
out
of
pocket
costs,
understood
yeah.
I
D
G
The
paperwork
versus
your
rate
doing
the
inspections,
and
if,
if
you,
they
only
charge
that
obviously
twenty-five
dollars
an
hour
is
not
going
to
cover
your
costs,
expense,
they
that's,
probably
something
more
significant
than
that,
but
I
would
have
I
would
ask
you
that,
for
the
purposes
of
this
board
and
for
appellate
review,
as
is
that
that
number
is
not
going
to
stay
consistent
year
to
year,
whatever
the
costs
go
up,
your
hourly
rate,
for
example,
goes
up,
then
hourly
rate
would
go
up
and
have
something
that
you
can
associate
it
with.
I
can.
G
Doesn't
matter
because
he
could
be
using
that
time,
it
he's
got
doing
something
else
for
the
city,
that's
where
the
reason
why
the
code
was
changed
in
1996.
That's
why
the
state
statute
requires
it
to
be
done.
They
all
understand
that
you
know
that
we're
reimbursing
the
city
or
expenses
incurred
that
derived
directly
from
that
person's
inability
to
take
care
of
his
own
matter.
So
that's
exactly
what
it's
for
yeah.
I
I
Well,
I
think
some
of
it
was
you
know.
Unfortunately,
like
I
said
they
sent
me
to
classes
so
I
learned
I've
talked
to
some
other
people,
some
other
cities
and
and
realized
it.
You
know
to
bring
a
bring
a
case
before
you
guys
and
if
I
did
these
numbers,
based
on
what
Thomas
and
based
on
my
hourly
rate,
they're
going
to
change.
I
There's
a
significant
amount
of
time
put
into
this
before
you
guys
ever
see
it
and
now
we're
washing
all
the
rest
of
it
for
anybody
that
doesn't
appear
before
you.
I
currently
am
holding
52
open
cases.
Right
now,
by
myself,
just
mean
I'm.
The
only
guy
in
town
and
I
have
52
open
cases.
None
of
those
cases
have
less
than
three
inspections
on
them.
Eighty-Five
percent
of
those
cases
are
going
to
clear
and
you're
never
going
to
see
him,
but
I
still
did
all
the
stuff
with
them.
I
We
still
still
did
all
of
this,
except
for
the
notice
of
hearing,
and
so
there's
still
a
significant
amount
of
time,
and
that's
why
I
specifically
found
out
that,
yes,
we
are
allowed
and,
and
it
is,
I
want
compliance.
That's
that's
all
I
want,
and
I
don't
I
would
prefer
nobody
ever
came
before
the
board,
and
I
try
for
that
and
if
that
influences
somebody
buy
at
a
notice
of
hearing
tome,
your
potential
costs.
I
administrative
costs
could
be
$225
regardless.
I
I
That
and
that
you
actually
said
we
didn't
do
a
perfect
thing.
That
is
another
thing.
I
wanted
to
discuss
with
you
guys
and
I'll
lean
into
it
a
little
bit
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
happens
to
code
board
cases
that
they're
fought
in
the
appellate
court
from
my
understanding
is
due
process.
That's
that's
them.
Bothering
me.
Will
it
work?
Is
due
process
and
I
learned
really
quickly?
I
The
reason
why
I
sit
stand
set
before
you
guys
and
explain
I
sent
it
to
the
property
owner
listed
by
this
database
in
this
database
or
the
registered
agent
and
I
got
a
return.
Receipt
is
for
that
purpose
of
due
process
to
make
sure
that
they
did
get
notified.
They
did
get
an
opportunity.
The
other
aspect
that
you
sometimes
the
board
necessarily
can't
appreciate,
is
I
love
email,
as
you
guys
already
figured
out
that
everybody's
email
address,
my
letters
have
my
email
address
on
and
I
communicate
with
these
people
I
give
people
time.
I
They
call
me
up
and
say:
hey
I
need
some
more
time.
I
give
him
the
time.
You
know
that's
what
I
I
don't
want
to
bring
cases
before
the
board.
My
goal
would
I
would
love
to
have
other
than
January,
where
I
just
have
to
ditch,
and
we
can't
do
it.
I
would
love
to
have
a
month
where
we
literally
don't
have
any
cases,
because
everybody
complied
and
I
try
very
hard
to
get
them
to
comply
prior
to
ever
coming
to
the
board
so
and
and
I'm
very
serious
about
due
process.
And.And
very
good
yeah.
G
Let
me
just
jump
in
here:
there's
three
things:
when
cases
are
appealed
to
the
circuit
court,
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
different
court
levels.
You
have
the
county
court,
which
is
things
of
value
up
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
being
sued
for
then
you
have
Circuit
Court,
which
is
the
value
of
over
15,000
and
then
certain
other
matters.
Certain
other
matters
include
appeals
from
quasi-judicial
boards,
like
voted
for
some
horde
Board
of
Adjustment.
So
when
that,
when
that
appellate
court
gets
the
the
case,
they
look
for
only
three
things,
as
due
process
been
given.
G
That's
where
a
lot
of
cases
have
been
lost
because
of
the
fact
that
they
weren't
served
through
green
card,
the
property
wasn't
posted
or
it
went
to
the
wrong
place
because
you
know
the
statute
wasn't
followed,
that's
due
process.
The
second
thing
is
where
the
essential
requirements
of
law
followed.
So
did
you
apply
the
correct
law
when
you
made
your
determination?
So,
for
example,
if
you
sight
of
you
with
high
grass
junk
trash
and
debris-
and
you
found
them
in
violation
of
failing
to
have
your
address
number
on
your
house
facing
the
street.
G
Well,
then,
you
haven't
all
of
the
essential
requirements
of
the
law,
and
the
third
thing
is:
is
that
the
course
looking
for
is
their
substantial,
competent
evidence
for
you
to
have
made
your
decision?
So
if
he
gets
up
there
and
doesn't
say
one
word
about
the
high
grass,
but
you
find
him
in
violation
of
the
high
grass.
Well,
then,
you
know
you
haven't
met,
there
is
no.
G
That's
what
he's
trying
to
present
to
you
every
every
city
does
a
little
bit
different
Steve's
doing
it.
He
wants
to
make
a
couple
of
changes
here
and
I
think
that
they're
absolutely
appropriate,
but
really
you're
the
judge
of
the
jury.
You
can
present
the
case
anyway.
He
wants
he's
kind
of
being
look
up
front
with
you
saying
I'm
gonna
change
the
way
I
present
the
case
to
you
and
I
want
you
to
feel
good
about
it
kind
of
thing,
but
he
can
present
the
case
anyway.
Once
to
the
to
this
board.
E
J
I
I
D
I
Doesn't
exist
at
that
point.
This
is
this
is
solely
to
bring
a
case
to
code
board.
These
are
the
the
costs
of
doing
that
to
hear
right,
it's
the
same
as
somebody
else
I
get
arrested
and
I
tear
my
pants
and
I
charge.
Fifty
five
dollars
an
hour
and
whatever
cost,
and
then
the
case
is
dismissed.
We
don't
ever
get
those
caught.
They
only
happen
once
they're
convicted.
That's
the
exact
same
thing
that
occurs
here
once
they're
found
guilty
by
the
board.
That's
when
that's
when
we
move
on
to
that
so.
H
I
Actually,
as
what
Tom
suggested
and
that's
the
direction,
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
is
at
that
second
hearing,
when
you
guys
are
approving
right
now,
you
blanket
approve
the
affidavit
compliances.
I've
got
seven
affidavit,
compliances
I
got
a
motion
to
approve
all
of
them.
What's
going
to
change,
is
the
affidavit
of
compliance
for
one
two
three
main
street
way
to
prove
it
and
are
there
costs
that
will
go
with?
Yes,
sir?
There
is,
I
presented
an
affidavit
for
cost
of
two
hundred
dollars
for
one
two,
three
main
street
case
number
XYZ.
I
I
G
I
Yeah,
so
there
this
is
the
extreme.
You
know
this
is
the
five
percent,
the
two
percent
of
the
of
all
the
cases
that
I
handle
in
the
city
right
that
are
ever
going
to
have
these
these
costs
added
to
them.
So
the
other
aspect,
the
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
briefly
and
it's
covered
in
statute-
is
that
owners
are
not
necessarily
always
the
violators,
so
a
property
owner.
Typically,
we
always
think
of
as
the
violator,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
violator.
I
A
perfect
example
of
that
is
I
arrest,
somebody
for
an
open
container
I,
don't
cite
the
property
owner,
I
arrest,
the
guide
or
open
container,
which
is
an
ordinance
violation,
but
because
I'm,
a
police
officer
I,
can
actually
rest
for
it.
Another
example
is
sometimes
with
abandoned
vehicles,
and
things
like
that.
We
usually
cite
the
property
remembered
a
lot
of
times
the
owner.
That
vehicle
is
actually
the
one
violating
this
the
ordinance.
So
you
may
see
where
a
case
is
presented
before
you
that
the
property
owner
may
not
necessarily
be
the
person
before
you.
I
C
I
Ultimately,
yes,
that's
that's
the
easiest
path.
That's
the
path
of
least
resistance
is
in
sight.
The
owner.
We
send
those
letters
to
the
tenant.
So
say
you
are
you
own,
a
property
at
one,
two,
three
main
street:
you
live
in
Poughkeepsie,
New
York.
We
send
you
the
letter,
but
one
two
three
main
street
gets
a
letter
to
that
are
also
and
they
get
a
certified
letter
both
places.
So
this
is
what
I'm
talking
about
with
the
cost.
Ok,
you
know
now
one
goes
to
both
places,
so
the
tenants
been
cited.
I
B
E
I
I
than
there,
yes,
we
don't
I,
just
didn't
I,
just
it
one
of
those
things
cropped
up
over
the
last
few
months.
It
just
was
one
of
those
things.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
in
the
last
class.
I
went
to
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
always
the
property
owner,
because
under
statute
it
says
violator.
In
most
cases
the
violator
is
appropriate.
I
You
tell
a
judge,
believe
it
so
one
other
thing
that
over
time,
that
and
we've
had
a
couple
people
that
have
actually
asked
to
after
code
Board
hearing
that
that
I'd
ask
and
Jerome.
This
probably
is
going
to
go
more
towards
you
or
whoever
happens
to
be.
The
chairperson
is
kind
of
a
brief
synopsis
or
summary
of
what
the
person
has
to
do.
I
The
violator
if
they're
found
guilty
and
there's
a
fine
assessed,
and
they
have
a
certain
period
of
time,
and
maybe
you
order
this
or
that
or
you
know
whatever
is
to
concisely,
say:
okay!
Mr.
Johnson,
you
understand
that
by
January
17th
you
have
to
take
care
of
XY
and
Z,
or
the
city
is
going
to
find
you
fifty
dollars
a
day
starting
on
January
17.
I
We
the
penalty,
it's
kind
of
like
you,
go
to
traffic
court,
which
none
of
you've
ever
been
to
traffic
work
is
nobody's
ever
going
to
take
it,
but
the
the
magistrate
explains
I
found
you
guilty.
I'm
gonna,
send
you
to
driving
school
your
fines
going
to
be
one
hundred
sixty
six
dollars
and
forty
dollars
in
court
costs.
You
got
30
days
to
take
care
of
that
any
questions
and
that's
kind
of
what
we've
had
a
few
people
kind
of
complain
about.
Is
there
like
what
am
I
doing
now
and
I?
I
Don't
know
from
a
clerk
standpoint.
I
know:
sue
gets
a
lot
of
phone
calls
like
the
next
day
and
go
what
just
happened:
yeah
so
I'm
asking
you
or
whoever
happens
to
be
sitting
in
the
chair
position
to
just
kind
of
summarize
that
case
and
make
sure
the
person
understands
all
the
penalties
and
all
the
things
that
have
occurred
with
the
code
board.
So
and
that's
just
an
observation.
You.
I
Dollars
a
day
to
take
care
of
your
yard,
then
I
do
a
repeat
violator
on
him
and
he
shows
up
here
and
he's
been
out
of
violation
for
five
days
and
it's
about
50
a
day.
Well,
three
months
ago
you
guys
was
a
hundred
bucks
a
day
and
now
he's
he's
a
repeat
violator
he's
already
ignored
you
three
months
ago.
I
This
is
that
history
aspect
that
I'm
bringing
up
you
guys
obviously
can
do
whatever
you
want,
but
it
seems
a
little
odd
that
three
months
ago
we
were
going
to
charge
this
guy
hundred
bucks
a
day
for
the
exact
same
offense.
That
he's
now
ignored
and
let
go
for
five
days
and
now
we're
going
to
charge
him.
E
A
I
Let's
be
reasonable,
no
I
am,
and
this
is
another
reason
why
I
want
to
segue
into
the
gill
penalty
aspect,
because
it's
much
easier
for
me
to
cover
and
say,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
board,
because
we
do
to
mention
their
repeat
violators.
So
there's
a
trigger
in
everybody's
head,
if
they're
repeat
violator,
you've
all
found
them
Steve.
A
I
Am
being
fair
and
the
reason
why
the
only
reason
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
is
because
if
you
hear
that
that's
the
Nexus
is
coming
from,
but
I
I
never
felt
comfortable
presenting
it
during
the
hearing
to
say
well
three
months
ago,
you
know
you
found
him
guilty
of
this
and
you
charged
him
100
bucks
a
day,
but
he
has
motors
yard.
It's
it's
that
separation
of
is
he
guilty
or
not,
and
because
everybody,
whether
you
like
it
or
not,
you
can
try
to
remain
as
harsh.
G
The
the
the
crazy
thing
about
it
is
is
that
the
statute,
when
it
says
that
you
are
to
establish
the
fine
there
are
three
criteria
and
when
it
talks
about
those
three
criteria,
one
of
them
is,
you
know,
have
have
there
been
any
previous
violations,
and
so
you
are
to
consider
that
and
determine
the
dollar
amount.
I
I
understand
where
Steve
is
coming
from,
and
it's
probably
the
smarter
way
and
legally
better
way
to
do
it.
But
I
have
not
seen
in
my
30
years
of
doing
this.
G
That
and
the
next
case
may
be
the
first
one,
but
I've
not
seen
that
to
be
a
big
issue.
But
if
that's
the
way
Steve
wants
to
present
the
case,
that's
his
case.
You
can
present
it
that
way,
and
and
again,
it's
probably
better
legal
way
to
do
it.
So
you
can
avoid
one
additional
legal
or
technical
argument.
Okay,
I
have
not
seen
it
to
be
a
problem,
so.
D
G
Way
that
I
don't
have
to
know
about
it,
but
we
do
know
you
shouldn't
be
doing
that
and
they're
in.
For
one
reason,
one
reason
only
because
you
were
to
make
your
determination
as
to
that
that
fine,
based
upon
the
testimony
and
evidence,
receive
at
this
meeting,
not
read
evidence
that
you've
received
prior
to.
G
That
would
be
considered
some
type
of
evidence
as
a
dollar
amount
and
it's
factual,
but
its
prior
to
the
meeting.
You
may
have
read
the
agenda,
but
Giri
may
not
have
so
now.
You've
got
testimony
or
you've
got
evidence
that
you're
considering
to
do
your
dollar
amount
of
the
fine
Jerry
doesn't
have
that
same
evidence,
so
so
I've
always
hesitated
in
having
a
whole
lot
of
information
on
the
agenda
other
than
maybe
the
case
number
the
property
owner
and
the
actual
violations
being
alleged.
You.
G
A
I
Got
the
call
any
problem
with
no,
and
that
is
the
exact
reason
why
I
want
to
separate
the
guilt
and
penalty
aspect,
because
the
guilt
is
very
simple.
I
went
out
here.
I
took
pictures,
here's
his
yard
on
this
date-
here's
yard
on
this
date.
It's
here's
my
yardstick,
saying
it's
26
inches
high.
Here's
all
my
notice
as
I
sent
him.
He
was
the
right
guy.
He
sent.
The
notice
is
back,
he
said
I
know
screw.
You
have
a
great
day,
whatever
I'm,
not
mowing
my
yard,
it's
my
grass.
I
don't!
I
I
love
grass,
you
know
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
You
all
decide
well
you're
guilty
of
it.
Then
I
say
this
is
the
14th
time
we've
been
out
there
and
mr.
and
mrs.
board
members.
You've
heard
him
six
times
and
the
last
time
he
was
here.
You
established
him
and
you
established
to
find
one
hundred
dollars
a
day.
I.
I
C
That's
good
for
us
is
the
board,
my
own
self
speaking
that
now
we
have
guidelines.
We
have
found
the
person
guilty.
Now
we
can
go
back
to
what
you
have
in
your
report
and
base
our
decisions.
Yet
we
found
them
guilty
three
months
ago,
found
them
a
hundred
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
find
and
go
ahead
and
do
it
that
way.
I
Gives
us
guidelines
and
what
I'll
do
you
guys
get
some
of
those
administrative
documents
at
the
end,
as
a
last
exhibit
and
a
lot
of
times
they
have
the
prior
cases
in
them
and
I've
always
felt
a
little
weird
passing
that
out
in
the
body
of
the
case.
So
what
would
happen
is
is
at
that
point
you
find
them,
I'm
going
to
say.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
present
my
last
documents.
It
shows
his
prior
cases.
I
And
and
Carl
you
know
the
directors
that
happened
before
were
the
learning
curve
for
me
and
I.
Think
it
was
you
guys,
weren't
provided
the
information.
I
didn't
necessarily
know
you
were
not
provided
the
information
and
it's
not
a
slider
down
on
anybody.
It's
just
trying
to
have
everybody
kind
of
the
same
sheet
of
music
in
the
pink.
I
One
person
is
maybe
dressed
nicely
and
is
tall
and
they
get
charged
twenty
dollars
a
day
and
the
next
guy
is
the
exact
same
circumstance
and
maybe
he's
not
dressed
so
nice
and
suddenly
he
gets
charged
150
bucks
a
day
you
may
run
into
at
some
point.
I've
been
told
that
it
really
doesn't
matter,
but
the
court
of
public
opinion.
Unfortunately,
we
all
work
for
and
I
would
sit
there
and
go.
Oh
that's
kind
of
messed
up
person,
a
person
be.
I
And
and
I'm
just
trying
to
make
it
a
little
clearer
and
a
little
easier
and
to
decide
guilt,
it's
very
clear
on
the
table.
That's
all
the
evidence
I'm
going
to
present
to
you
is
here's
the
facts
of
the
case,
nothing
else,
none
of
his
prior
history.
How
many
times
have
I
seen
this
guy
I'll
cover
due
process.
I
sent
him
14
letters
for
this
offense
and
I
did
this
that
or
the
other
thing
that's.
A
I
raise
a
question
comment:
ask
you
this
what
I've
been
on
this
board
for
almost
four
years
now,
and
it
seems
that
seems
the
most
reasonably
boards
I've
ever
been
involved
with?
What's
our
what's
our
record,
we
don't
ever
see
any
cases
that
end
up
going
to
a
corridor.
I
would
think
that
we
have
a
pretty
good
record
as
far
as
our
decisions
have
been
supported
on
unless
time
completely
miss
reading
thing.
G
I
I
And
in
that
case,
that
case
taught
me
a
lot
and
that's
that's
when
a
lot
more
evidence
started
to
go
in
because
that's
when
I
found
out
what's
reviewed
and
it's
very
important,
the
only
thing
we
can
do
here
is
preserve
the
record
and
all
actually,
even
I
started
saying
it
like
the
last
time.
Well,
mr.
chairman,
my
purpose
is
just
to
preserve
the
record
and
get
it
on
the
record
because
that's
what
the
court
uses
so
with
that
being
said,
look
at
this
I
almost
did
it
in
an
hour.
I
Damn
for
you,
amazing,
isn't
it
I
think
about
covered
everything
that
I
wanted
to
cover?
I,
really
appreciate
you
guys.
Let
me
do
this.
I
want
to
keep
everybody
informed.
I
don't
want
to
just
suddenly
I
know.
It
was
weird
when
I
started
to
present
all
the
evidence,
and
I
tried
to
give
you
a
little
heads-up
but,
like
Tom,
said
the
it's
not
a
good
forum
to
do
it
with
a
of
people
and
go
hey,
we're
changing
how
we're
doing
everything
today
in
about
five
minutes.
You're
gonna
be
completely
confused.
I
Questions
of
me,
we
do
have
issues
because
of
the
Sunshine
Law.
Obviously
we
can't
discuss
any
cases.
Procedurally
we're
okay
on
talking
about
these
things,
I'm
always
going
to
refer
back
to
Tom,
because
I'm
never
gonna,
he
protects
you.
He
doesn't
protect
me
and
he's
going
to
make
sure
that
I
don't
give
you
any
information,
he's
going
to
veto
it
and
I
say
anything
out
of
school
and
I.
Hopefully,
I
haven't
done
that
today,
I've
tried
to
do
a
little
research
I,
provided
you
guys
with
some
homework.
I
Like
I
said
this
I've
read
through,
and
it's
actually
when
it's
some
of
the
better
I
didn't
include
the
second
aspect
of
this
there's
a
part
two
to
this
whole
statute,
and
it
covers
notice
to
appears
and
things
and
that's
a
whole
different
world,
because
those
go
to
circuit
court
and
stuff,
like
that.
That's
another
thing
that
I
handle
a
you
guys,
never
see.
I,
write
notice
to
appears
in
to
criminal
court
or
ordinance
violations
as
well.
I
Perfect
example
is
a
solicitation
stuff,
doesn't
come
before
the
code
board,
I
I
catch
them
in
the
act,
I
side
them
on
a
notice
to
appear
and
they're
going
to
go
into
county
court
and
they're
handled
their
every
code
case.
I
have
potentially
could
be
heard
before
a
judge
and
I
could
one
say
circumvent,
but
based
on
based
on
the
the
media
that
I
used
to
present
the
case,
it
would
skip
the
board
and
go
right
to
a
circuit
court
judge.
So
there's
still
a
lot
of
cases
on
top
of
that.
I
52
that
I
have
I
have
a
couple
right
now
that
the
Tom's
office
is
handling
to
go
to
a
circuit
court.
That
or
ordinance
violations,
so
it's
it's
it's
kind
of
a
dynamic
world
and
and
I
like
I,
said
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
doing
this
I
know
I,
like
I,
said
I,
hope,
I,
didn't
insult
anybody's
intelligence
or
anything
like
that.
D
I
We
just
secured
a
contract
for
abatements
for
landscaping.
We
have
a
few
properties
in
town
that
I
can
finally
get
mowed.
We
had
no
contract,
we
had
no
bids,
we
had
know
anybody
that
I
could
go,
send
out
to
mow
yards,
so
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
few
of
those
taking
care
of
that
all
just
came
into
place.
That's
one
of
the
things
like
I
said
earlier.
You
guys
can
order
those
things.
I
think.