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From YouTube: Heritage Preservation Board January 8, 2018
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A
B
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D
E
Under
the
first
sentence
of
the
board,
discussion,
I
would
just
like
to
add
to
that
sentence,
to
explain
why
it
should
not
be
a
two-story
structure
and
I
would
suggest
that
following
be
added,
because
I
believe
this
is
what
I
said
at
the
meeting.
Since
that
height
is
not
consistent
with
the
height
and
mass
of
the
immediately
surrounding
area
and
vote
on
that
or
is.
A
E
Page
5
under
board
comments.
The
second
paragraph
I
had
it
says:
Mr
everyone
commented
she'd
seen
their
me
renovations
to
the
cultural
center.
They
could
be
good
to
set
the
record
that
to
state
that
the
following
mrs.
lemons
responded
that
the
cultural
center
renovations
will
be
reviewed
at
the
January
2008
meeting
of
the
HPP.
D
F
F
F
A
F
E
E
F
F
E
F
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
acts
in
a
quasi
judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
out
of
quasi
judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
establish
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
F
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
F
G
C
G
This
site
is
the
protected
address
site,
so
I
want
to
add
a
little
bit
of
context
for
the
board
to
understand
the
neighborhood
a
little
bit
better.
This
section
of
the
historic
district
is
pretty
eclectic
with
various
styles
of
architecture,
ranging
from
50s
masonry
of
vernacular
like
this
one
to
early
1900s
frame,
vernacular
and
and
and
several
variations
in
between,
there
are
lots
of
accessory
structures
there
with
carports
and
lean
twos
and
screen
patios
and
single
car
garages.
G
G
This
patio,
the
existing
patio
and
the
proposed
screen
fall
well
within
the
required
yards
as
far
as
the
setbacks
go
on
this
lot,
the
accessory.
Well,
it's
not
an
accessory
since
it's
attached,
but
it's
clearly
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure,
so
the
roofline
is
lower.
Even
though
the
roofline
matches
it's
lower
than
the
primary
structure,
it
falls
more
narrow
than
the
primary
structure
directly
to
the
west
of
the
subject.
Property
is
a
wooden
metal,
carport
storage,
type
structure,
that's
taller
actually
than
this
one
and
taller
than
the
existing
one.
G
The
two
doors
to
the
north
as
a
covered
patio
with
a
pitched
roof.
Three
doors
to
the
south
is
an
aluminum
carport,
so,
hopefully
I'm
painting
a
picture
that
it's
it's
a
fairly
diverse,
neighborhood
architectural
II
and
the
way
this
one
appears
to
me
is
that
it
would
they
would
easily
fall
within
within
something
that's
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
and
compatible
with
the
existing
contributing
sectors.
A
H
A
B
A
B
I
E
E
I
E
Just
for
the
record,
I
just
think
that
it
was
really
difficult
to
review
this
application.
I
generally
understand,
although
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
protected
status.
Is
she
and
maybe
like
the
Asmussen
oral?
Is
this
your
home
residence
where
you
live
now,
so
it's
a
rental
property
is
a
rental
property.
Ok,.
D
E
Thank
you
because
it
was
protected
and
because
we
didn't
have
the
address
we
as
a
board,
it
was
really
difficult
because
of
the
way
the
sketch
was
drawn
to
tell
that
that
screen
room
was
going
right
on
top
of
the
new
wall.
It
was
really
a
little
tricky
to
tell
it.
That
was
what
the
application
was
for
and
I
would
be
less
concerned
about
it
if
it
were
an
interior
a
lot.
But
this
is
not.
E
It
has
an
alley
to
the
south
and
you
in
the
alleys
and
use,
as
you
well
know,
and
probably
the
rest.
The
board
knows
the
alleys
actually
paved
and
serves
as
the
access
to
the
parking
for
the
or
the
duplex.
So
that
was
my
concern
originally
that
it
really
couldn't
tell
for
sure
from
that
view
from
that
public
side,
whether
or
not
you
know
how
the
screaming
was
coming
down,
then
I
had
one
question
for
the
staff:
if
I
might,
unless
this.
H
E
G
So,
like
I
say,
the
area
is
fairly
eclectic
and
architectural
style.
There
are
lots
of
accessory
structures
and
smaller
buildings.
So
the
way
I
see
this
one,
even
though
it's
attached,
because
it
is
clearly
subordinate,
I
sort
of
see
it
as
a
blend
of
accessory
structure
and
and
and
what
we,
what
we've
got
here
and
all
of
those
accessory
structures
have.
Similarly
most
of
the
accessory
structures
have
similarly
pitched
roofs.
G
E
A
A
A
Does
everybody
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
screen
comes
to
the
new
wall?
That's
there,
I,
don't
see
any
way
to
not
understand
that
at
the
corner
of
a
street
or
bail
I'm
and
spring
come
together.
There's
a
rental
property,
that's
three
units
and
it
has
an
accessory
structure
in
the
back
that
fronts:
Bay
Street,
which
is
not
an
alley,
and
it
has
a
screen
enclosure
on
it.
So
I
find
this
to
be
completely
consistent
with
the
Fruitvale
district
of
having
the
screen
structure
from
what
I
can
see.
D
D
G
All
right
application,
17
122,
is
for
the
tarpon
springs
cultural
center
at
101,
South,
Nellis
Avenue.
This
application
is
seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
for
rehabilitation
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
is
consistent
with
rehabilitation
Devine
in
the
desert
defined
in
the
design
review
guidelines
manual
on
page
20,
where
the
building
is
being
brought
up
to
contemporary
standards
for
more
efficient
and
lasting
use,
while
maintaining
and
protecting
the
architectural
character
and
defining
features
of
the
building.
J
Good
evening
tom
function,
public
works
director.
Thank
you,
I'm
here,
of
course,
as
represented
the
city
and
I
have
Vivian
szeliga
from
at
leer
architectural
firm
she's,
going
to
a
presentation
on
the
building
pretty
much
the
same
type
of
sands,
the
same
type
of
work.
We
had
done
this
building
a
couple
years
ago
and
she's
chill
she's.
The
expert
here.
K
Good
evening
Vivian
so
laga
50
102
North
Central
Avenue
Tampa
as
an
overall
summarization
of
the
work
to
be
performed
at
the
cultural
center.
It
serves
first
and
foremost
to
stabilize
waterproof
and
repair
the
exterior
of
the
building.
In
accordance
with
the
Department
of
interiors
standards
for
historic
rehabilitation.
We
have
used
the
National
Park
Service's
technical
preservation,
briefs,
1,
2,
9
and
20
and
referenced
these.
In
writing.
Our
technical
specifications,
and
one
in
two
involves
brick
cleaning
and
and
tuckpointing
9
is
in
reference
to
treating
windows.
K
Wood
windows
in
historic
buildings
and
20
deals
with
slate
roof
repair,
and
there
are
three
primary
components
to
the
rehabilitation
at
this
property
and
they
are.
They
include
the
roof
and
the
gutters,
the
brick
facades
and
the
windows
and
the
doors
at
the
roof
level.
There
is
serious
deterioration
of
the
wood
balustrade
surrounding
the
cupola,
including
missing
spindles,
deteriorated,
trim,
work.
K
K
The
cupola
dome
is
actually
a
metal
structure
whose
paint
coating
has
delaminated
over
time
and
the
project
will
clean
and
strip
the
paint
from
the
cupola
and
refinish
it
with
a
material
to
accentuate
the
metal
finish
at
the
flat
clay
tile
roof
itself.
A
roof
inspection
report
was
completed
a
very
extensive
roof
inspection
report.
Actually
that
revealed
while
the
roof
is
in
particularly
good
condition,
with
no
evidence
of
roof
leaks.
There
are
areas
of
cracked
roof
tiles
and
deteriorated
grout
valleys,
which
you
can
see
in
the
right
hand
slide
slightly.
K
These
will
be
able
to
be
replaced
and
repaired
on
an
as-needed
basis
without
having
to
incur
the
expense
of
an
unnecessary
whole
scale.
Roof
replacement,
the
drawing
prepared
by
the
roof
inspection
company
has
identified
in
all
the
little
red
triangles
they
repair
work,
and
this
drawing
has
been
included
in
our
permit
set
of
plans
that
will
be
going
to
the
building
department,
if
specifically,
makes
notations
to
the
type
and
extent
of
the
roof
repair
at
each
of
those
locations.
K
The
entire
perimeter
of
the
roof
eaves
house,
a
copper
box,
feeding
into
several
copper
downspouts
around
the
perimeter
of
the
building
the
roof
report,
indicates
that
at
the
corners
of
the
eaves,
the
solder
has
failed
within
the
box
and
causing
the
rotting
conditions
at
almost
every
corner
and
in
areas
adjacent
or
near
to
the
downspouts.
They
are
recommending
that
the
joints
be
REE
soldered
and
that
the
eaves
be
repaired
and
repainted
once
the
reefs
are
during
has
taken
place.
K
They
do
not
feel
that
the
existing
copper
gutter
is
in
a
deteriorated
enough
condition
to
be
replaced
except
to
be
restored
at
each
of
the
four
corners.
The
brick
facades
show
very
limited,
minor
cracking
that
can
be
corrected
with
epoxy
grouting
at
those
few
locations,
and
when
we
were
doing
this,
you
could
see
I
know
if
this
is
working
or
not.
It
failed
me
before.
K
Up
in
the
upper
left-hand
corner
on
the
second
story
of
the
southern
segment
of
the
building,
there's
some
slight
cracking
near
the
window
on
both
at
both
windows,
which
of
course,
is
also
causing
some
moisture
intrusion
into
the
building
and
the
second
floor.
Interior
plaster
is
falling
from
the
interior
walls
as
a
result
of
that.
But
as
soon
as
those
are
sealed
and
epoxied,
it
will
stop
the
interior
migration
of
the
moisture.
K
Much
research
has
been
done
to
come
to
a
solution
that
would
retain
the
integrity
of
the
historic
window
and
door
configurations
of
the
original
building,
while
providing
necessary,
increased
energy
efficiencies
to
the
building.
There
are
three
pairs
of
double
wood
doors:
three
single
leaf
doors,
wood
doors
and
one
pair
of
metal,
exterior
doors
that
you
can
see
in
the
the
right
hand,
most
photograph
to
an
electrical
equipment
room
that
is
not
a
part
of
the
historic
fabric
of
the
building.
The
metal
doors
will
be
replaced.
K
All
of
the
exterior
wood
doors
upon
inspection
actually
proved
to
be
in
good
condition
and
are
not
rotting.
The
deterioration
that
you
see
at
the
bottoms
of
all
of
the
doors
is
really
paint
spalling
off
of
the
surface
of
the
the
door
structures,
but
when
we
probed
them
it
didn't
they
had
no
termite
damage
and
and
no
rotting.
Some
of
the
trim
that
you
can
see
in
the
center
photo
is
a
bit
rotted
at
the
trim
places
that
will
be
replaced
in
kind
to
match.
K
The
original
configuration
of
the
trim,
the
leaded
glass
windows
and
transom
of
the
two
main
double
entry
doors
are
unique
and
they
are
a
very
important
character,
defining
feature
of
this
building,
so
these
doors
are
going
to
be
removed,
stripped,
wreaths
and
then
reinstalled
back
in
place.
The
they
will
be
removed.
One
at
a
time
so
as
to
not
interrupt
the
daily
functioning
of
the
building
and
when
they
are
reinstalled,
they
will
be
reinstalled
with
added
additional
weather
stripping
to
prevent
air
infiltration
and
drafts.
K
The
security
system
that
is
presently
in
place
on
the
doors
is
currently
scheduled
to
be
disengaged
during
the
doors
removal
but
then
reconnected
once
the
door
is
put
back
into
place
as
to
the
windows.
There
are
38
windows
in
this
building.
36
of
these
windows
are
true
divided
light,
eight
over
eight
wood,
double-hung
windows
with
wait
box
operation.
K
They
are
painted
white
on
the
exterior,
with
a
dark
stain
finish
on
the
interior
of
the
two-story
southern
segment
of
the
building,
and
they
are
painted
white
both
too
far
white,
both
interior
and
exterior
in
the
auditorium
on
the
northern
segment
of
the
building.
All
of
the
windows
on
the
exterior
have
a
unique
wood,
brick
mold
configuration
and
that
will
be
stripped,
sanded
and
refinished.
Where
evidence
of
rotting
prevents
refinishing.
The
brick
mold
will
be
replaced
in
kind
to
match.
The
existing
configuration
existing
exterior
window
sills
are
all
concrete.
K
K
The
proposed
new
windows
are
simulated,
divided
light
double-hung
8
over
8
wood
windows
finished
on
the
exterior,
with
a
factory
finished
white,
aluminum,
cladding
and
factory
finished
stain
on
the
interior
to
match
the
dark
stain
of
the
original
windows
in
the
two-story
segment
and
in
the
auditorium
segment
of
the
building.
The
windows
again
will
be
aluminum,
clad
on
the
exterior
and
painted
white
wood
on
the
interiors.
K
K
L
L
This
board
has
approved
Marvin
windows
in
the
past
for
this
building.
The
windows
that
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
about
tonight
are
similar
in
construction
to
the
windows
that
are
installed
here.
The
functionality
is
what's
different,
we're
taking
the
same
materials
and
making
that
double-hung
window
instead
of
a
casement
in
casement
picture
windows
like
we
have
here,
but
the
detailing
the
fit
and
finish
the
colors
things
like
that
are
same
to
what
you
see
in
this
building
that
we
finished
last
year.
L
The
exterior
of
the
windows
is
an
extruded
aluminum,
clad
frame
and
sash
there.
The
finish
on
the
windows
is
an
ama
2605,
kynar
finish,
which
is
the
highest
grade
finish
that
we
can
apply
to
the
window.
It's
a
standard
finish
for
Marvin
I
brought
some
color
chains
that
maybe
y'all
can
pass
down.
Just
I
know
you're
using
white,
but
you
can
see
the
machine
on
the
white
on
the
interior
of
the
downstairs
we're
using
a
stain,
that's
done
in
the
factory
in
an
espresso
finish,
because
it
is
the
closest
match
to
what
you
have
now.
L
You
won't
have
any
of
the
unstained
edges
showing
at
the
corners
of
windows,
so
the
Vivian
and
I
were
at
the
plant
I
think
a
month
or
two
ago,
maybe
two
months
ago,
and
and
she
was
able
to
see
this
happening
in
person
with
the
six-sided
finish
of
all
the
parts
and
and
and
how
we
produce
those
stained
parts.
So
it's
a
knack,
so
noble
finish
is
only
applied
in
a
factory
controlled
environment,
so
we
can't
do
it
in
the
field
and
for
any
trim
that
has
to
be
replaced
in
the
field.
L
We
do
offer
color
matching
codes
to
match
to
Sharon,
Williams
stains
and
then
on
the
upper
floors.
Are
we
going
to
do
the
interior?
The
paint
on
the
inside?
Are
you
doing
that?
Your
do?
You
know
you're
gonna.
Do
it?
Okay?
So
we
don't
need
to
talk
about
the
interiors
I'll
pass
that
down.
So
you
can
take
a
look
at
the
stained.
L
L
I
L
K
Iam
right
now
it
has
very
heavy
curtains
that
are
not
in
great
shape,
and
this
particular
window
has
an
option
to
on
the
interior
to
have
a
blackout
screen
added
to
the
interior
face
of
the
window.
But
when
the
screen
is
up,
it
becomes
invisible
to
the
eye,
and
it
looks
like
it's
just
a
bar
of
the
wood
at
the
very
top.
So.
L
I
could
show
that
to
you
and
then
I'll
hand
this
around
the
the
material
itself
is
Hunter
Douglas,
blind
material,
pleated
blinds
marvin
licensed
from
hunter
douglas.
They
send
the
sheets
to
the
factory.
The
rest
of
it
is
completely
assembled
in
the
factory,
and
what
vivian
was
referring
to
is
that
when
you,
when
you
close
the
shade,
there's
a
stack
cover
that
gets
it
out
of
the
way
completely.
You
can't
see
the
shade
and
you
can
use
it
from
the
bottom
up
or
top
down.
L
I've
had
some
homeowners
that
use
this
and
they
express
some
concern
about
dogs
getting
to
them
and
usually
what
we
do
is
you
know,
show
them
that
it's
a
very
resilient
screen
and
it
comes
back
to
its
natural
shape
very
easily.
This
one
happens
to
be
a
light
filtering
screen,
but
the
other
option
is
to
use
it
honeycombed
with
the
silver
inside
the
foil,
to
make
it
a
blackout.
L
It
would
take
a
just
a
slight
bit
of
planning
on
our
part,
because
you
need
a
six
and
nine
sixteenths
jam
on
the
window
instead
of
a
four
9/16
to
use
it.
But
that's
a
minor
detail
in
the
big
picture.
It
would
allow
the
building
you
know,
delete
all
those
heavy
curtains
that
are
everywhere,
and
this
is
an
alternative,
so
I'll
hand
this
around.
You
guys
can
take
a
look.
E
K
Unless
well
and
that's
an
option
that
has
to
be
decided
by
someone
else,
but
we
wanted
to
show
you
what
it
was
now.
I
know
that
in
the
cultural
center
of
southern
side,
they've
got
venetian
blinds
in
there
right
now,
but
part
of
and
and
we
don't
know
if
the
Board
of
the
cultural
center
even
wants
this
option.
They
haven't
seen
it
yet
that
I
know
of.
L
L
L
K
E
I
do
have
some
questions,
but
not
chemists
early
on
probably
from
miss
Solano,
maybe
mr.
French,
in
a
brief
little
bit
of
history
as
long
as
I've
lived
in
Tarpon
and
I
did
serve
on
the
board
previously
and
when
I
wasn't
on
the
board,
I
watched
the
board
agendas
and
participated
where
I
I
should
dissipate
every
time
there
was
a
proposal
to
replace
Windows.
There
was
a
study
and
analysis
of
the
deteriorate.
E
K
When
the
RFQ
was
was
advertised,
it
was
for
window
replacement.
It
was
not
for
refurbishment
of
the
windows
and
I
believe
that
some
of
the
genesis
of
that
was
that,
in
order
to
achieve
the
energy
efficiency
that
they
were
hoping
to
get,
they
could
not
do
that
with
the
existing
historic
windows.
Because
of
the
infiltration
of
the
light
the
coefficient
of
efficiency
on
the
glass,
that's
there
could
not
be
accomplished
in
any
other
way.
They
have.
K
The
suti
has
come
back
and
put
some
kind
of
like
a
3m
film
on
the
windows
to
try
and
help
that,
but
that
film
deteriorates
from
the
ultraviolet
light
over
time
and
then
ends
up
bubbling
up
because
of
the
temperature
differential
from
the
inside
to
the
outside,
and
when
the
air-conditioning
is
running
so
I
Tom
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that
better
than
I,
but
it
seemed
that
by
the
time
it's
reached
this
level.
The
city
had
determined
that
they
had
evaluated
every
possible
method
of
fix
and
wanted
to
do
it
completely
right.
E
J
I
didn't
do
the
evaluation
myself
or
any
evaluation
on
myself
is
more
for
the
experience
you've
had,
including
this
building
here
with
the
same
type
of
same
similar
type
of
a
window
over
here
we
found
out
when
we
pull
these
out
over
here.
Interior
ation,
but
I
know
Windows
was
pretty
exclusive,
as
if
anyone
had
a
chance
to
say
it
well,.
E
But
there's
no
data
before
us
tonight
that
speaks
to
the
deterioration,
these
windows
and
frankly,
I've
driven
by
and
walked
by
that
building
multiple
multiple
times
and
I,
don't
see
any
deterioration,
I
see
a
teary
eration
that
can
be
fixed
and
in
fact
our
design
guidelines
speak
to
that.
We'll
talk
about
that
a
little
later.
But
yes,
there
is
peeling
paint
just
that
there
is
peeling
paint
on
the
doors,
but
all
that
is
repairable.
So
why
was
that
not
considered.
J
J
E
Honestly,
I
guess
I
shouldn't
even
ask
the
question,
because
really
the
cost
does
not
enter
into
our
evaluation,
but
again
I.
Don't
see
any
analysis
before
us
today
and
I.
Don't
see
any
analysis
based
on
my
looking
at
the
building
to
show
a
deterioration
beyond
repair
and
I
would
just
call
the
board's
attention
to
a
couple.
E
Well,
we
can
talk
about
one
get
to
that,
but
so
what
we've
established
is
the
city
sent
out
an
RFP
asking
for
architects
and
builders
I
assume
to
respond
to
window
replacement
only
and
then
the
other
items
that
you've
discussed
tonight
repair
the
doors,
the
brick
repair
I.
Think
most
of
that
is
pretty
straightforward,
but
there
was.
The
city
has
not
done
a
true
evaluation
by
a
qualified
professional
as
to
the
deterioration
of
the
windows.
No.
A
E
K
E
K
E
K
H
A
A
A
M
Mr.
Sharon
board
members
to
need
a
Prost,
901,
Bayshore,
Drive
I
did
not
know.
This
was
on
the
agenda.
I
came
for
something
else,
and
I'm,
appalled
and
I
would
like
to
have
some
extent
of
time.
As
a
former
mayor
and
former
commissioner
who
went
after
the
grants
and
the
destination
of
historic
preservation
on
this
building
through
the
80s
and
90s,
we
got
this.
We
won
awards
because
tarpon
springs
really
held
on
to
his
it's
its
historic
building
and
the
features
of
the
building.
M
Last
year
or
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
the
windows
were
changed
in
the
fern
'old
building
uptown
special
glass
people
pay
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
dollars
for
those
panes
that
you
can't
find
anymore.
I
came
to
the
city
to
see
if
it
had
come
before
this
board
and
why
they
allowed
him
to
change
it,
and
I
was
told
by
the
gentleman
in
the
in
the
City
office.
Well,
I
didn't
know
it
had
to
go
in
front
of
the
board.
Yes,
it
did,
but
it
was
too
late.
M
We've
lost
in
the
fern
abili
because
the
glass
was
gone,
it
wasn't
repair
properly
and
he
didn't
put
in
the
historic
again.
I
came
up
over
a
year
ago
and
said
where's
the
maintenance
on
the
old
city
hall,
because
I
could
see
around
the
windows,
and
you
said
it
was
going
to
be
done.
But
I
haven't
seen
a
study
for
the
public
to
look
at
and
let
me
tell
you
we're
gonna
lose
our
historic
destination
on
these
buildings.
M
These
windows
are
nice,
but
you
follow
historic
preservation
like
I
do
around
the
south
out
west
all
over,
even
in
the
north
of
the
storms.
Right
now.
They
don't
change
like
this,
because
you
lose
and
once
you
lose,
you
can't
replace
it
back
to
the
old
it's
gone.
Do
you
know
how
many
communities
are
sorry
now
that
they've,
let
their
historic
preservation
lapse
and
they
can't
retain
it
anymore,
we're
losing
in
Tarpon
Springs.
There's
a
cancer
in
this
community
that
they
don't
want
to
continue
and
keep
historic
preservation.
M
I
see
it
every
day,
I'm
his
story,
I
remember
going
there
as
a
little
girl
to
meetings
with
my
grandfather.
Those
windows
are
very
important
that
we
have
there
and
you
can
repair
them
and
keep
the
beauty
of
your
historic
preservation
when
I
got
out
of
office,
all
maintenance
stopped
on
it.
That's
your
professionalism
in
the
city,
and
you
know
what
I
mean
by
that.
Don't
let
all
of
this
happen
and
lose
what
we've
got
in
in
our
in
our
historic
buildings
here
in
Tarpon,
these
windows
are
wonderful.
M
I
wish
I
could
have
them
in
my
house.
The
drapes
in
the
auditorium
there's
a
reason
for
them:
that's
what
they
have
in
all
their
historic
buildings
and
their
historic
auditoriums,
the
blinds
they
have
and
because
they're
historic
and
they
were
there
years
ago,
we
tried
to
keep
it
to
where
it
was.
We
need
to
repair
the
windows
that
are
there
now.
Do
it
properly
keep
the
glass
panes
that
are
there
now
and
take
care
of
them
when
they
put
the
shield
over
it.
M
We
raise
all
kinds
of
Cain
because
it
never
came
before
the
board
to
do
but
historically
and
your
your
merits
or
preservation,
you
could
have
lost
where
we're
walking
on
thin
ice
and
tarpon
springs.
We're
losing
a
lot
of
our
historic
here
at
tarpon
and
I
know
when
I'm
gone
in
the
next
five
years.
Who
knows
what
the
hell's
gonna
happen
in
tarpon?
I
can't
control
it,
but
while
I'm
here
I'm
gonna
come
and
speak
out,
because
we
are
unique,
you
don't
find
that
City
Hall
anyplace
else.
M
You
don't
find
the
history
that
went
on
in
there.
You
don't
find
the
old
windows,
except
in
these
old
buildings
in
these
old
communities,
don't
lose
the
treasures
that
you
have
I,
think
it's
nice,
I'm
sure
she's,
very
professional.
She
wouldn't
be
success
if
she
wasn't,
but
this
we
do
not
need.
We
need
to
keep
what
we
have.
We
need
to
repair.
We
need
to
save
the
glass
that
we
have.
You
can't
buy
it
salvage
companies
can't
even
get
it
hardly
anymore.
It's
special!
It's
beveled!
M
A
K
K
K
Of
the
reasons
for
looking
at
an
alternative
window
is
that
the
current
building
code
will
require
on
the
if
the
historic
window
is
kept,
that
a
hurricane
shudder
be
applied
to
the
outside
of
the
building.
Somehow
some
way-
and
if
you
recall
I
mean
you
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
a
lot
of
the
National
Park
Service's
documents,
there
are
very
few
hurricane
shutters
that
meet
the
standard
of
the
National
Park
Service
in
order
to
not
be
damaging
to
the
the
historic
building
by
replacing
the
window
with
a
certified
window.
K
A
A
That's
supposed
to
happen
when
something
like
this
happens
just
before
reading
that
I
wanted
to
clarify,
because
there
was
comments
made
to
this
building
and
when
this
building
came
for
the
historic
board,
it
was
more
of
a
we're,
an
advisory
board,
but
it
was
more
just
to
kind
of
get
our
idea,
because
we
were
told
that
this
actual
building
does
not
lie
within
the
historic
district
of
Tarpon
Springs.
Is
that
correct?
A
Listed
but
it's
not
within
the
historic
district
of
Tarpon
Springs,
but
it's
individualistic
on
the
guidelines,
so
that
was
kind
of
why
they
came
to
us,
even
though
it
was
outside
of
the
district
property
that
we're
talking
about
we're
done
with
public
comment.
We
won't
probably
need
you,
so
you
want
to
relax.
You
can't
so.
The
building
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
within
the
historic
district
of
Tarpon
Springs
I.
A
E
F
A
A
Is
the
only
building?
This
is
the
only
building
that
the
witness
mentioned
and
related.
So
that's
the
only
thing
that
there
was
the
only
building
they
mentioned.
To
give
us
an
example
between
the
building
that
we're
considering
tonight
and
any
other
structure.
Was
this
building
so
I
think
this
building
Israel
of
it?
Okay,.
F
But
the
the
relevancy
of
whether
or
not
if
this
building
is
not
within
the
purview
of
this
board,
and
it
did
not
in
in
regardless
of
what
happened
with
it.
The
questions
that
could
have
been
are
can
still
be
asked
of
the
applicant
are:
are
there
any
other
buildings?
Obviously,
and
but
I,
don't
necessarily
see
how
and
it's
up
to
you
guys,
but
in
my
opinion,
I,
don't
see
how
that
is
relevant
to
the
application
that
they're
going
to
be
well.
E
I
just
want
to
know
the
answer.
It
doesn't
necessarily
make
it
a
difference
on
the
new
project,
but
we
have
different
opinions
since
I
wasn't
on
the
board
I'd
like
to
know
mr.
Bolten
says
that
is
the
current
city
hall.
The
building
we
sit
in
was
not
reviewed
by
this
board
and
miss
lemons
and
said
it
was
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
happened.
Just
out
of
a
point
of
order.
Point
of
curiosity
so.
A
Let
me
just
VIN,
you
can
speak,
it
was
brought
to
us.
I
didn't
remember
the
document
that
was
in
front
us
at
the
time,
but
I
remember
very
clearly
the
attorney
telling
us
and
staff
telling
us
that
it
was
not
in
the
historic
district
and
we
were.
It
was
more
of
an
advisory
if
that
advisory
became
something
more
formal.
As
a
document,
that's
now
being
said,
it
was
approved.
That's
not
the
way
it
was
presented
at
that
board.
N
A
Main
reason
I
asked
is
because,
because
this
building
was
mentioned
by
the
applicant
as
an
example,
I
was
trying
to
distinguish
that
this
building
is
not
in
the
historic
district.
Therefore,
I
couldn't
give
it
the
same
weight
of
a
building.
That
is
an
historic
district.
So
that's
I
know
where
it's
going
to
the
guidelines.
I
just
want
to
read
this.
There
are
four
guidelines.
This
is
from
page
24
rehabilitation.
A
There
are
four
guidelines
that
apply
to
rehabilitation
and
maintenance
throughout
this
chapter,
except
as
many
required
by
the
building
code.
Distinctive
and
historic,
defining
architectural
features
and
material
shall
be
repaired,
not
replaced
if
repair
is
not
possible.
Due
to
severe
deterioration,
then
replace
the
feature
with
the
same
material
form,
design
and
color.
The
mixing
and
matching
of
materials
to
conduct
repairs
is
prohibited.
A
Mixing
of
materials
destroys
the
architectural
character
and
value
of
the
structure
and
impacts
the
quality
of
the
neighborhood.
If
an
entire
architectural
feature
is
too
deteriorated,
in
replacement
of
in
or
same
material
is
not
technically
or
economically
feasible
than
a
compatible
substitute
material
that
provides
the
same
design
features
may
be
considered
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
board
know
it's
not
I,
think
or
I
wish,
or
these
are
our
guidelines,
so
I'll
open
up
for
comments.
A
E
Chairman,
yes,
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
windows
portion
of
this
application.
I,
let's
go
to
the
good
parts.
I
think
the
good
parts
are
the
repairs
to
the
Clocktower
to
the
ballast
rod,
their
repairs
to
the
brick,
the
the
removal
and
repair
and
reefs
anding
and
reinstalling
of
the
wood
doors.
Exterior
wood
doors
is
commendable.
E
All
of
those
aspects
of
the
project
are
commendable
and
I'm
glad
that
the
city
is
moving
forward,
but
the
windows
on
this
building,
the
building
we're
talking
about
not
the
building,
we're
in
and
the
building
under
consideration
are
a
significant
architectural
feature
of
the
building.
The
Old
City
Hall
is
individually
listed
on
the
National
Register,
as
well
as
being
in
the
district.
That's
a
whole.
It
saw,
as
we
all
know,
it's
a
much
higher
level
of
importance
for
that
building.
For
obvious
reasons,
it
was
the
original
seat
of
government
for
city
for
the
city.
E
It's
still
in
use
and
I
think
miss
proto's
comments
about
there
being
grants
given
which
I
know
personally
I
have
personal
knowledge
that
there
were
state
of
Florida
grants
given
to
renovate
that
building
I'm,
not
sure
the
year,
but
I'm
sure
her
time
frame
is
sounds
approximately
right
and
the
building
has
been
there
since
1913
and
just
withstood
a
category
4
hurricane
and
multiple
hurricanes
over
the
years
and
I
appreciate
that
hurricanes
are
difficult.
We've
we
all,
unfortunately,
just
went
through
that,
but
it's
been
there
for
over
102
years
and
I
didn't
see.
E
Any
windows
blown
out
in
the
last
hurricane
I
also
know
that
there
are
good
solutions
to
a
hurricane
shutter
that
will
not
be
obtrusive.
I'm
sure
that
multiple
people
have
figured
that
out
on
important
buildings
as
important
as
this
building
is
to
our
community
and
I
I.
Do
not
think
that
this
application
with
regard
to
the
window
replacement,
it
does
not
meet
the
criteria
because
there
has
been
no
demonstration
of
severe
deterioration
of
these
windows
are.
Is
there
paint
peeling?
E
Yes,
but
that's
not
significant
wood
rot,
that's
not
the
entire
window
frame
being
deteriorated
and
we've
seen
those
I
mean
y'all
have
seen
it
on
the
board.
I
saw
when
I
was
on
the
board
before
I
saw
it
when
I
was
just
a
citizen
watching
the
agenda.
Sometimes
that
does
happen,
but
that's
not
what
we
have
here
today.
We
do
not
have
severe
deterioration
of
a
majority
of
the
windows.
In
fact,
I.
Don't
even
think
you
have
deterioration
of
any
of
them.
E
I
think
you
may
cently
have
peeling
paint
and
a
little
bit
of
lack
of
maintenance.
So
I
am
not
supportive
of
that.
I
do
not
think
the
window
replacement,
meets
the
guidelines
and
I
think
the
city
in
the
building
city
knowns
needs
to
set
an
example
and
be
the
best
example
for
preservation
in
the
city,
not
the
worst
example,
and
what
this
is
replacing
every
single
window
is
the
worst
example
of
preservation
that
I
can
think
of
for
this
bill.
I'm,
not
supporting
that.
A
C
C
C
K
E
K
C
E
C
E
A
The
there
was
restoration
done
on
this
building
in
the
past
through
grant
I
think
it's
in
I
agree
with
mr.
pani
that
the
city
should
be
the
standard-bearer
or
preservation
restoration
as
what's
possible,
not
taking
the
easy
way
out.
I
can't
imagine
the
cost
of
replacing
every
one
of
those
windows
becoming
cost
prohibitive
and
that
being
a
reason
we're
moving
in
that
direction,
because
imagine
the
cost
of
repair
being
prohibitive
compared
to
the
replacement
every
one
of
those
windows
and
I
think
it's.
A
E
E
F
Say
that
whatever
the
motion
is
made,
obviously
there
can
be
made
a
motion
for
whatever
you
feel
meets
the
guidelines
and
approve,
and
if
and
not
necessarily
denying
the
other
portions
just
move
to
approve
these
specific
things
and
then
that's
the
motion.
If
that's
what
you
feel
that
should
be
approved
or
you
can
deny
it
in
total,
you
can
grant
it
in
total.
You
know
it's
up
this
board's
purview.
What
you
want
do
what
you
feel
meets
the
guidelines
from
the
application.
E
You
may
ask
the
city
attorney
a
question
also.
So,
if
there's
a
motion
to
approve
some
elements
and
deny
some
elements,
then
it's
the
applicant
which
happens
to
be
the
city,
but
it
would
be
the
applicants
decision
on
whether
or
not
they
wanted
to
go
forward
with
part
or
none
of
the
project.
It's
still
it's
the
applicants
decision
on
how
to
proceed
with
the
renovation,
correct.
F
So
it
like
any
application,
if
you
didn't,
if
you
approve
this
in
total,
they
still
have.
You
know
three
years
from
the
date
that
they
receive
it
to
go
ahead
and
get
the
permitting
to
move
forward
if
they
choose
not
to
do
so,
then
that
that's
ultimately
their
decision,
but
they
can
only
move
forward
with
the
portions
of
the
application
that
you
approve
that
we
approve.
They
also
have
appellate.
Right,
though,
sure.
E
Would
move
that
we
approve
and
I'm
reading
from
the
five
requests
that
are
on
the
first
page
of
the
application?
Our
eirick
recommend
that
this
board
deny
the
replacement
of
the
windows
but
approved
the
other
remaining
elements
which
include
cleaning
and
repairing
of
the
brick
and
mortar
cleaning
and
repairing
the
existing
cast
trim
and
sills
cleaning
or
repairing
the
concrete
base
course
and
clean
the
tile
roofing
flashing
and
repair
the
gutter
system
and
I
also
believe
parenthetically
before
I
finished.
My
motion,
I,
believe
I
heard
mr.
C
E
A
F
You
you
can
make
the
motion
as
you
see
fit.
So
if
your
motion
is
to
do
that,
the
application
was
to
replace
the
windows.
If
you
want
to
condition
it
and
say
you
cannot
replace
it,
but
you
can
repair
it
the
other.
The
problem
with
doing
that
is,
then
you
have
to
get
what
what
are
they
repairing
it
with.
A
E
I
think
that,
just
to
follow
up
what
the
city
attorney
were
saying,
mr.
Bolton,
that
if
the
applicant
wishes
to
come
back
with
an
amended
application
to
repair
them,
excuse
me
to
repair
the
windows
and
demonstrate
how
they're
going
to
repair
that,
and
that
would
be
a
new
application.
They
should
come
back
to
this
board
to
have
that
conversation
and
I.
Guess
then,
my
motion
would
also
we're
also
approving
the
door
repair,
because
that
is
repair
of
wooden
doors
and
reinstalling
those
wooden
doors,
so
they
only
the
way
I.
E
F
So
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
cleaning
and
repair
of
existing
brick
and
mortar
cleaning
and
repair
of
existing
castra
missiles,
cleaning
and
repair
concrete,
based
course,
cleaning
and
clean
of
tile,
roofing,
flashing
and
repair
of
the
gutter
system
and
cleaning
and
repair
or
replacement
of
the
doors
not
replacement.
Well.
E
F
F
F
Why
you
can
only
make
an
affirmative
I
mean,
and
this
in
this
case
I
would
only
make
an
affirmative
motion.
I,
say
leaving
out
the
windows,
and
so
you're
only
moving
you're
only
moving
to
approve
these
certain
things
so
that
they
can
move
forward
with
those
things
that
would
be.
My
recommendation.
I
certainly
include
that
in
your.
D
C
E
Just
for
the
city
knows
and
elegant,
we
would
certainly
entertain
some
discussion
about
if
there's
some
windows
that
are
so
deteriorated,
that
they
need
to
be
replaced
in
total,
with
with
new
wood
I,
certainly
would
be
open
to
that.
But
I
think
we
need
to
see
some
analysis
of
what
the
status
of
those
windows
are
before
we
just
do
a
wholesale
replacement.
G
On
what
is
currently
in
2003
a
certificate
of
approval
permitted
the
demolition
of
two
single-family
residential
structures
at
this
location,
they
were
framed
vernacular
contributing
structures,
but
they
were
Terrier
ated
beyond
repair.
According
for
the
records
in
the
file
in
April
of
2017
conditional
use,
approval
was
by
resolution
2017.
Oh
six
was
granted
to
allow
the
construction
of
two
single-family
residential
structures
with
detached
garages
at
this
location,
because
it's
required
in
that
particular
transect
Cote.
For
a
for
a
single-family
home
to
be
constructed
in
this
area.
G
The
proposed
residences
are
approximately
2,500
square
feet,
two-story
homes
with
dominant
front
porches
and
balconies,
and
other
styling
consistent
with
frame
vernacular
architectural
style
outlined
in
the
design
review
guidelines
manual.
The
proposed
detached
garages
located
entirely
behind
the
proposed
residences,
our
single-story
and
approximately
460
square
feet.
G
The
proposed
structures
comply
with
required
yards
and
transect
t4a
of
the
special
area
plan.
The
roof
lines
are
steep
pitched
it
consistent
with
neighboring
roof
lines.
The
houses
are
compatible
with
the
surrounding
structures
in
the
neighborhood
and
even
though
the
there's
no
alley
access
for
these
Lots,
so
they
do
have
to
be
accessed
from
the
from
Orange
Street,
but
they've
minimized
the
driveways
and
they
don't
widen
until
they
get
behind
the
houses.
G
The
landscaping
will
be
required
to
conform
to
the
landscape
standards
set
forth
in
the
special
area
plan.
Chapter
4
in
conduction,
in
conjunction
with
any
additional
applicable
standards
set
forth
in
Lane
development
code
and
the
transect
based
landscape
plan
is
harmonious
with
the
heritage
preservation
standards
for
review
for
landscaping
as
both
call
or
enhance
applications
that
contribute
to
clearly
defined
outdoor
spaces.
G
So
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
application
for
the
construction
of
two
new
single-family
residences
with
driveways
and
detached
garages
under
the
following
conditions.
Applicant
is
responsible
for
obtaining
all
required,
permitting
and
applicant,
provide
a
landscape
plan
consistent
with
the
special
area
plan.
4.8.
A
E
E
E
G
O
E
A
O
We've
done
I
did
about
five
of
these
in
Safety
Harbor,
in
a
very
similar
situation
to
proximity
to
Main,
Street
and
the
walkability,
and
for
people
of
my
age
aging,
baby
boomers.
It
seems
to
be
a
very
popular
downsizing
type
of
product.
So
it's
going
really
well
there
and
I
think
it
will
do
well
here
as
well.
E
The
only
other
comment
I
had
ISM
I
just
want
just
maybe
for
the
record.
I
guess
is
this
is
new
construction
and
we
do
generally
allow
non
historic
materials
on
new
construction,
so
I'm,
seeing
that
he's
using
hardy
board,
but
is
using
in
the
lap
siding
so
just
trying
to
distinguish
this
brand-new
construction
from
renovation
to.
E
O
A
Think
it's
definitely
demonstrates
as
it's
a
new
structure,
so
it's
not
trying
to
emulate
or
pretend
to
be
something
it's
not,
but
yet
it
fits
with
the
character
of
the
community.
So
there's
anybody
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
to
this
application
or
anybody
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
application.
Please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
M
Try
the
meter
protis
I,
like
what
he
has
designed
for
this
piece
of
property.
My
husband
grew
up
there.
There
were
four
houses
on
that
piece
of
property.
It
was
the
first
hospital
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
to
go
up
upstairs
for
the
real
sick
patients.
You
had
to
open
a
door
and
climb
steps
in
the
back
was
a
kitchen
and
a
pantry
and
a
little
operating
room
in
this
little
building.
M
Then
they
had
a
big
garage
where
they
used
to
take
the
ambulance
back
then,
and
the
little
house
on
the
other
side
was
where
the
nurses
lived
and
his
grandfather
bought.
It
converted
it
into
the
home
for
the
protis
family
to
live
in
or
the
angelitos
family
live
in
was
next
to
the
church.
The
community
is
hungry
for
this
type
of
development.
M
It's
a
town,
it's
gonna,
revitalize
uptown,
it's
close
to
the
church,
it's
close
to
the
library,
it's
it's
right
in
the
business
district
and
to
revitalize
Tarpon.
This
is
the
way
to
go
and
they're
doing
it
in
other
communities
and
again
historically
in
social
circle.
Georgia
Savannah,
Charleston,
South
Carolina.
If
you
travel
the
circuits
and
read
about
like
I,
do
at
my
age,
that's
all
you!
Do
you
see
what
they're
doing
they're
designing
the
architecture
is
good
I
commend
him
on
his
design,
I
hope
to
sell
something.
M
Maybe
I
can
afford
to
live
one
so
I
don't
kill
someone
coming
over
the
Capitol
Cal
Bridge
at
80
years
old
pretty
soon
and
you
can
walk
because
they'll
probably
take
my
license
from
me.
So
as
people
get
older,
this
is
what
they
want
and
you're
going
to
be
getting
another
I
guess
if
they
go
through
with
those
further
up
on
Orange
Street
I,
don't
know
they
haven't
started
anything.
M
But
what
I
read
is
this
is
the
way
communities
are
going
in
some
communities.
People
are
buying
buildings
on
Main,
Street
and
they're,
not
putting
businesses
in
there
in
them
they're
making
in
their
homes,
so
they
can
walk
to
facilities
and
be
able
to
get
around
so
I
think
we're
on
the
cutting
edge
of
something
with
what
he's
giving
us
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
asset
to
Tarpon
and
I
hope
that
we
get
a
lot
more.
M
H
A
E
F
First
of
all,
so
the
application
that's
before
they
still
have
30
days
to
appeal
if
they
believe
it's
30
in
the
codes
that
feel
the
current
decision,
I
believe
to
the
board.
So
they
can
certainly
do
that
or
they
have
the
option
to
bring
a
brand
new
application
for
and
I'm
assumed.
It
would
be
specific
through
the
windows.
Whatever
that
application
is
yeah,
they
don't
have
a
and
I
think
I
can't
recall
the
code
I'd
have
to
double-check
it.
F
F
F
Write
the
application
could
come
back
if,
if
any
applicant
wanted,
they
brought
an
application
before
the
board
took
the
comments
of
the
board
during
discussion.
Went
back
brought
a
new
application
before
the
board
for
the
exact
same,
you
know
thing
that
they
wanted,
but
the
comments,
the
heart
and
brought
additional
evidence
to
support
their
position.
You
know
any
applicant
could
do
that,
though,
and
as
I'm
trying
to
speak
in
general
areas,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
is.
G
G
Like
is
there,
you
know,
so,
if
you're
looking
at
the
face
of
a
building
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
windows
had
to
be
replaced
because
they're
completely
rated
but
other
other
windows
had
to
be
restored
because
there
period
enough
to
replace
them,
is
there
a
preference
or
which
which
direction?
Should
we
lean
or
which
way?
Should
we
look
the.
F
E
I
would
just
say
that
we're
going
to
be
bound
by
the
design,
guidelines
and
design
guidelines
when
secretary
standards
are
very
clear
about
analysis.
That's
required
to
prove
a
particular
issue,
and
that-
and
it
generally
relates
to
its
detailed
analysis
about
deterioration
and
then
the
amount
of
deterioration
where
it
is
on
the
facade.
What
type
of
building
are
they
the
original
wind
I
mean
all
those
factors
come
into
play
and
we
just
have
to
look
at
each
case.
You
know
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
I
have.
A
F
When
you
read
into
the
record
that
specific
guideline
expects
that
had
made
an
exception
for
the
building
codes
that
are
applicable,
so
if
the
Florida
standard
building
code
said
and
I,
don't
know
that
it
does.
But
if
it
said,
if
you
are
going
to
replace
20%
of
the
windows
on
the
home,
you
then
must
replace
all
of
the
windows.
E
F
F
And
that
that's
something
that
would
end
up
having
to
go
through
permitting,
though
you
know,
if
those
are
questions
that
are
great
to
ask,
but
the
the
applicant
may
not
have
that
information
at
the
time,
and
that
would
be
something
that
they
may
come
back
with
a
new
application
and
says
this
is
a
requirement
that
I
need
it.
It
would
be
nice
if
it
was
in
the
packet,
but
I
think
staff
backs
that
as
well,
so
that
but
yeah
did.
N
Wanted
to
show
you
a
sign
that
was
made
a
street
sign
that
our
Public
Works
Department
can
make
here
in-house.
This
is
an
example
for
you
to
see
of
what
we
could
put
on
the
streets
or
the
historic
district.
As
you
can
see
there
Brown
we
looked
at
another
design
that
would
have
a
little
bump
up
like
this
and
come
down
and
inside.
That
would
say
historic
district.
N
A
H
F
A
H
E
It's
next
to
manual
of
Lindy
Achatz
office
building,
and
when
you
look
at
the
photograph
that
Miss
lemons
provided
us
of
the
building
before
it
had
a
the
door
was
in
the
center
of
the
building.
Now
what
they
have
done,
that
was
approved
by
the
staff
with
no
HPB
approval
was
moving
the
door
to
the
side
in
recess
in
the
door,
which
is
not
consistent
with
what
is
allowed
to
be
approved
by
staff
and
I.
E
Think
there
was
a
misinterpretation
by
this
person,
my
staff
person,
what
the
board,
what
the
checklist
says
is
window
and
door
replacement
with
original
materials
and
style
is
staff
and
I.
That's
exactly
what
it
says,
but
what
was
done
on
this
particular
case
at
218.
These
tarpon
is
not
window
door
replacement
with
the
original
material
and
style.
So
it's
unfortunate
that
it's
done
now.
It's
really
mucked
up
that
building
it's.
E
It
could
have
been
a
thousand
times
better,
but
I.
Don't
know
that
there's
much
we
can
do
now,
but
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
and
make
sure
this
that
the
previous
staff
member
made
a
bad
decision
that
we're
now
gonna
have
to
live
with,
but
I
appreciate
you
letting
us
know
what
happened
because
I
was
certainly
curious.
I
think
we
all
were
about
about
that.
E
Had
to
either
have
a
couple
of
questions,
I
really
also
appreciated,
miss
Wagner
getting
the
packet
out
to
us
right
after
Christmas.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
if
we
could
do
that
on
an
ongoing
basis
on
at
least
the
Monday
before,
then
you
know
Monday
week
before
the
meeting.
I
think
that'd
be
great.
If
Monday
happens
to
be
a
holiday
like
Memorial,
Day
I
think
we
all
understand
it
would
be.
E
You
know,
Tuesday,
but
having
the
whole
time
to
look
at
it
and
be
able
to
talk
to
you
before
the
weekend,
because
then
Monday
comes
and
we
have
our
meeting.
So
if
we
could
do
that
going
forward,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
the
board
members
into
the
applicant
to
say:
applicants
put
a
lot
of
time
into
preparing
their
application
and
we
wanting
to
be
able
to
review
it
fairly
and
go
out
and
look
at
the
sites,
and
you
know
do
all
of
our
due
diligence
that
we
do.
E
G
G
A
Think
the
point
definitely
is
the
sooner
the
better
and
I'm
not
sure
it's
in
our
view
to
dictate.
When
you
get
the
reports
out.
That's
because
we're
not
your
boss
to
do
that.
So
I
definitely
appreciate
mr.
peonies
bringing
attention
that
we
do
need
it
sooner
than
later
would
be
best,
and
if
you
could
get
it
to
us
by
that
Wednesday
that
would
be
much
better
than
you
know.
A
Friday,
because
we
work
and
then
we
get
home
at
night
on
Friday
and
then
we
can't
call
anybody
and
then,
if
it's
Monday
you
might
be
in
a
meeting
or
then
we
might
have
a
question
that
would
take
you
longer
to
research
then
before
that
evenings
meeting.
So
so
yeah
I
think
what
you're
saying
is.
Yes,
we
would
love
that.
Oh.
H
E
E
Then
my
last
is
a
request
for
a
follow-up.
When
I
was
looking
at
one
of
the
sites
for
the
meeting
today,
I
saw
building
a
brand
new
building
that
I,
don't
think,
went
to
this
board.
Maybe
it
did.
I
was
kind
of
surprised,
so
I
mean
it
could
have
come
some
yeah
a
year
or
two
ago
and
I
just
don't
remember
it.
The
address
is
2
to
7
bath
Street
and
it's
not
there's
a
house
in
the
front.
There's
a
new
building
in
the
back
that
fronts
on
the
alley.
E
C
It
was
last
geez,
it
may
have
been
May
of
20
or
it
may
actually.
No,
it
was
was
earlier
in
that
it
was
in
2016
that
we
looked
at
that
because
there
was
a
discrepancy
about
the
map
about
our
maps,
the
numbering
of
the
Lots
on
the
map,
but
and
we're
the
historic
district
is
on
Bath
Street
and
what
properties
were
contributing
and
what
properties
were
not,
and
the
numbering
of
of
the
maps
were
incorrect
that
all
came
up
with
that
particular
application.
D
E
A
C
C
A
When
we
get
an
application,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
the
applicants
have
complete
opportunity
to
be
heard
and
to
know
if
something
is
like
in
a
guideline
that
says,
certain
studies
are
to
be
done,
lead
up
to
it.
Can
we
make
sure
that's
in
our
app
that's
done
and
in
our
application
so
that
that
it
or
do
we
not?
Is
that
not
reviewed
or
the
week?
How
does
an
applicant
know
what
they're
supposed
to
put
together
to
bring
an
application
forward
so
that
they
don't
get
sidelined
because
something
is
missing.
N
A
N
We
would
have
had
any,
but
otherwise
we
meet
with
the
applicants
when
they
first
come
in
and
they
talk
about
what
what
they're
do
we
go
through
the
guidelines
with
them
and
we
tell
them
what
they
need
and
we
work
with
them
leading
up
to
the
meeting.
So
we
try
to
prepare
them
as
much
as
possible
that
they
have
everything
that
they
need.
So
you
can
make
the
determination
and.
A
Decals
and
things
are
not
supposed
to
take
up
more
than
a
certain
percentage
of
the
window,
they're
not
completely
obscure,
block
visibility
into
a
building
and
I
know
with
an
applicant
that
we
had
before
that's
a
cliche
or
whatever
we
had
denied
that,
and
it
went
to
the
Commission
and
then
was
over.
We
were
ruled,
however,
there's
other
businesses
going
in
downtown
that
are
completely
obstructing
their
windows.
So
how
does
that
is
that
a
code
violation?
Is
that
something
aren't
signs
supposed
to
come
to
us
or
how
did
that?
How
does
that
get
fixed?
G
G
A
F
I'm
gonna
I
think
that
suggestion
I
should
probably
go
to
our
city
attorney
specifically
because
it
has
to
deal
with
the
sign
code
and
there
has
been
a
lot
of
recent
decisions
through
the
Supreme
Court
of
the
United
State
with
regard
to
signs
and
the
First
Amendment,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
suggestion.
So
I
think
if
you
email
that
to
staff,
they
can
forward
it
to
my
office,
and
we
will
review
that
and
see
if
that's,
even
something
that
this
board
could
regulate
based
on
the
current
status
of
the
law.
What.
A
E
H
A
A
N
We
may
be
even
getting
some
input
from
you
as
far
as
the
RFP.
If
any
of
you
know,
people
who
do
revisions
of
design
guidelines
will
be
doing
up.
Rfp
we've
got
a
total
of
20,000
I
believe
that
was
set
aside
to
do
a
revision
of
that.
So
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you
on
that.
We
we
haven't
really
started
that
yet,
but
that's
something
we'll
be
starting
now.
Can.
E
I
suggest
that
since
we're
the
board,
that's
going
to
ease
the
design
guidelines,
the
most
and
board
members
that
have
been
on
are
pretty
familiar
with
what
the
challenges
are
with
the
current
design,
guidelines
and
I
have
some
familiarity
that
we
that
this
board
review
the
RFP
before
it
we
sent
out
I.
Think
you
would
then
we
would
be
sure
that
it
addresses
the
issues
that
keep
coming
up
over
and
over
and
over
exactly.