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From YouTube: Heritage Preservation Board December 3 2018
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A
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
the
meeting.
It's
6:30
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
December
3rd
2018
meeting
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
I'm
gonna
go
out
of
order
tonight,
just
for
a
moment
before
we
start
a
regular
meeting,
I
thought
we
should
have
a
moment
of
silence
and
a
moment
of
Prayer
for
President
George
Bush
and
his
family.
A
A
E
A
A
E
C
Panel
proceeding
where
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
of
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
Code
of
Ordinances.
C
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
a
lot
of
fighting
against
the
applicant.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
board
was
soon
to
disclose
any
conflicts
of
interest
or
ex
parte
communications
this
evening?
No
seeing
none
anyone
wishing
to
speak
this
evening,
if
you
could
please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand
to
be
sworn.
C
F
C
A
A
couple
of
notes
before
we
start-
although
this
is
a
formal
process,
we
do
not
have
any
limitations
on
speaking,
we
want
everyone
to
have
an
opportunity
to
present
their
application
or,
if
you're,
an
opposition
to
a
case
or
support
to
present
your
comments,
we
do
require
that
you
come
to
the
podium
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
so
that
we
have
a
record
of
that.
A
goal
for
this
is
to
be
easy,
but
formal
we
do.
It
does
require
certain
formalities,
as
our
attorney
has
described.
A
I
also
want
to
point
out
tonight.
We
only
have
four
members
of
the
board
here
tonight:
we're
normally
a
five-member
board.
Our
quorum
required
is
three
to
conduct
business,
so
we
do
have
a
forum,
it's
also
in
our
rules
and
in
the
ordinance
that
three
votes
must.
You
must
have
three
votes
for
any
decision
to
approve
or
deny.
So,
if
there's
anyone
here,
you
do
have
the
right
as
an
applicant.
A
If
you
get
the
sense
that
there's
not
going
to
be
three
votes
for
your
application,
you
do
have
the
right
to
request
a
continuance
to
the
next
month
and
that
meeting
will
be
on
January
14th
and
we
can
deal
with
those
as
we
go
along,
but
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
I
wouldn't
knew
that
they
had
the
right
to
do
that
before
we
started
to
meet
only
may
not
be
needed.
I
just
want
everyone
to
know
that
possibility,
so
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
application.
1890
93,
fifty-eight,
Reed
Street.
A
D
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
D
The
applicant
did
not
submit
a
full
Eastside
elevation.
That's
just
just
noting
that,
with
respect
to
item
two,
the
windows
again,
there
is
a
product
sheet
submitted
a
couple
of
things:
the
windows:
don't
the
windows
on
the
building
plan
don't
appear
to
to
match
the
layout,
that's
shown
don't
appear,
does
not
appear
to
match
what
is
existing
on
the
property,
so
that
was
a
bit
problematic
when
looking
at
the
fenestration
relationship.
Also
the
Folies
side
elevation
is
not.
D
D
So
these
sizes,
without
trying
to
scale
hundred
drawings
and
knowing
what
the
original
window
sizes
are,
the
sizes
trim
and
again
fenestration
of
the
windows,
could
not
be
completely
determined
with
respect
to
the
door.
The
applicant.
This
is
the
back
door
on
the
north
side
entering
the
addition.
The
applicant
submitted
product
sheets
for
his
sliding
glass
door
and
for
french
doors.
The
plan
set
proposes
a
sliding
glass
or
sliding
panel.
D
The
placement
of
the
entryway
itself
seems
to
be
it's
a
bit
offset
with
respect
to
the
to
the
that
elevation
of
the
structure,
but
it
seems
to
me
acceptable
with
respect
to
to
the
layout
of
that
elevation,
but
the
applicant
did
not
submit
any
information
on
the
history.
What
was
there
previously
with
respect
to
the
door
and
staff
did
try
to
look
on
Google
Street
View
at
the
door.
D
I
think
it
was
a
ho-hum
door
before,
but
I'm
not
completely
sure
that
you'd
need
to
maybe
ask
the
applicant
about
that,
but
staff
could
not
find
really
evidence
that
the
sliding
panel
was
was
going
to
be
appropriate.
Yet
for
this
addition,
one
thing
I
will
note
with
respect
to
both
elevations
is
the
the
ballast
rot
on
the
top
is
retained,
and
so
that
is
one
notable
feature
that
is
a
plus
for
this
project.
D
With
respect
to
item
three,
this
is
located
in
the
city
special
area
plan,
transact
district,
t4a
and
staff
is
confident
that
the
site
can
comply
with
the
transit
district
with
respect
to
the
roof.
Again,
the
ballast
is
retained,
the
roofline
seems
to
match
the
existing
or
what
was
previously
there
with
respect
to
the
porch
roof
line.
I
was
not
completely
confident
in
what
the
East
elevation
would
look
like.
I
wasn't
sure
if
the
roof
would
be
continuous
or
offset.
D
I
had
a
couple
of
question
on
her
with
respect
to
the
floorplan
view
versus
the
elevation
view,
so
I
couldn't
completely
determine
what
that
roof
line
would
be
fiberglass
shingles.
Our
proposals
would
need
to
be
the
same
dimension
in
color
as
the
current
residents.
Those
were
not
supplied
in
the
application.
D
With
respect
to
the
size
and
mass
again,
the
proposed
addition
is
subordinate
to
the
to
the
major
structure.
It's
on
the
north
northeast
corner.
It
seems
to
be
acceptable
with
respect
to
the
scale
with
respect
to
item
seven,
the
next
applicable
item
the
applicant
proposes
hardiplank
siding
nailed
six
inches
on
center.
D
Color
is
not
proposed
in
the
application.
They
may
address
that
here
staff
asked
for
historic
views
of
the
structure,
but
the
applicant,
but
maybe
was
not
able
to
supply
those
I
did
look
on
Google,
Street,
View
and
I
tried
to
paste
a
picture
of
what
I
saw
for
2014
looks
like
the
porch
had
shake
shingle
type
siding
at
that
point.
D
So
that
is
a
new
packet.
This
side
of
the
building
is
much
more
prominent.
It
can
be
viewed
on
the
way
down
east
Tarpon,
as
well
as
obviously
the
full
side
of
north
Levis
Avenue,
so
the
appropriateness
of
the
siding.
We
wanted
more
information
on
on
how
the
applicant
would
support
the
appropriateness
of
this
type
of
siding
on
this
mainly
brick
fabric
structure.
D
D
So
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
address
some
if
they,
obviously
those
would
be
structural,
but
perhaps
they
propose
to
do
something
with
the
foundation.
As
far
as
the
look
of
that
and
then
with
respect
to
item
eight,
the
overall
mass
and
and
positioning
of
the
addition
seems
fine
and
item
nine.
The
we
feel
that
the
renovation
does
not
meet
the
city's
guidelines
and
again
it
can
meet
the
land
development
code
and
it
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
so
stop.
D
D
G
C
Thirty,
four
years
again,
my
understanding
is:
there's
no
affidavit
on
file
for
you
to
be
able
to
represent
the
applicant,
so
I
just
need
a
verbal
acknowledgment
from
the
applicant
just
for
purposes
of
our
legal
record
that
you
are
okay
with
him
speaking
and
presenting
on
your
behalf.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
G
G
G
G
There's
a
lot
of
engineering
studies
done
at
that
time,
and
they
looked
at
metal,
roofs
versus
tile,
roofs
versus
shingle
roofs
and
the
crazy
thing
that
worked
out
to
be
is
cheapest,
roof
which
you
can
buy
as
a
shingle
roof.
But
it's
the
safest
roof
it's
made
today.
Tile
is
actually
it's
like
flying
missiles,
that's
the
most
expensive
roof
that
you
can
get,
but
once
one
tile
pops
is
it's
just
a
repeat
process
touring,
it'll,
actually
peel
off
the
entire
roof
and
as
far
as
metal
once
metal
starts
to
go.
It's
pretty
much.
G
The
same
thing
they've
come
up
with
a
new
type
of
used
to
be
tar
paper.
Now
they
call
it
pill
and
stick
it's
just
almost
impossible
to
get
it
off
once
you
put
it
down
and
then
they
go
back
and
they
put
this
Ingle
overtop
of
it.
Luckily,
the
roof.
That's
on
that
house
right
now
is
this
particular
roof
system.
So
it's
going
to
be
an
easy
match.
G
It's
the
easy
color
to
blend,
so
there
won't
be
a
difference
in
color,
a
couple
other
things
that
was
in
there
when
you
get
away
from
the
roof
would
have
been
the
windows.
Now,
whenever
you
go
to
those
two
old
historical
windows,
all
of
those
windows
were
made
out
of
wood.
There
wasn't
fiberglass,
there
was
an
aluminum
and
all
that
stuff
going
back
in
the
day.
G
So
your
two
biggest
window
manufacturers
that
do
a
replica,
one
of
which
is
similar
to
that,
is
going
to
be
Pella
and
Andersen,
and
we
chose
to
go
with
the
Pella
window
because
they
you
can
either
buy.
What's
off
the
stock
like
at
home,
depot
or
lowes,
which
are
any
of
those
companies
or
they
will
make
an
exact
window
to
exactly
in
that
opening.
That's
the
same
way.
It's
an
aluminum,
clad
window
has
vinyl
on
the
outside
and
it's
all
white
vinyl
to
be
an
exact
match
of
the
window.
That's
in
there
today.
G
So
those
one
is
it's
here
today
or
single
hung
windows,
one
over
ones,
and
it's
got
a
two
and
a
half
inch
flange.
It
goes
all
the
way
around
the
window
and
it's
trim
on
outside
of
that
again.
That's
all
white,
the
house,
its
next
door,
just
to
the
west,
apparently
from
what
I've
been
told,
those
two
houses,
her
sister
houses.
They
was
built
off
the
same
type
of
building
plans
and
if
you
took
the
houses
side-by-side,
the
porches
were
the
same
man.
Tears
were
the
same.
The
back
of
the
houses
were
the
same.
G
Now
they've
had
a
little
bit
of
work
during
the
course
of
their
life
and
the
the
their
windows
I
think
was
kind
of
painted
a
little
bit
of
a
tan
color
versus
the
white
trim.
They
got
tan
of
some
spots
and
lighting
some
spots
a
little
ism,
a
little
bit
of
a
mixture.
All
the
trim,
that's
going
to
be
going
on
this
home
will
be
white.
G
The
window
trim
will
be
white,
the
the
sighting
was
going
to
be
white
and
what
they
were
going
to
use
instead
of
like
just
a
plain
old
wood
siding
which
shows
to
go
with
the
hardiplank
and
hardiplank
is
a
really
good
sighting
they've
been
accepted
on
a
lot
of
historical
boards
to
be
the
same
type
of
siding
that
you
would
have
on
the
old
wood
clapboard
today.
But
the
big
advantages
that
is
hardiplank
is
fireproof.
It's
made
out
of
concrete
and
fiber
will
not
burn,
will
not
explode.
G
You
can't
destroy
it
by
any
type
of
heat.
Doesn't
expand,
doesn't
warp
we're
a?
Would
you
take
a?
Would
you
take
the
old
paint
now
the
old
paint
isn't
like
the
acrylic
paints
of
today.
If
you
start
digging
up
underneath
a
lot
of
that
wood
you'll
get
down
to
all
base
paint
and
once
it
gets
to
a
certain
temperature,
it
will
catch
on
fire
and
eventually
all
paint
will
explode,
and
it's
quite
toxic
to
where
the
hardiplank
you
just
go
back.
G
You
put
a
sealer
on
top
of
it
at
the
end
of
that
you
go
back
and
you
put
the
color
that
you
want,
which
is
going
to
be
white
for
this,
to
match
everything
else
and
then
once
you're
done
with
that,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
any
of
the
problems
that
you
would
have
with
some
of
the
other
siding.
Now,
if
you're,
looking
at
the
building
plans,
you
see
the
siding
coming
down
just
to
where
it
starts
below
the
floor
system.
G
It's
open,
left,
it's
open
below
that
I
did
that
on
purpose,
so
you
could
see
where
the
gaps
are
from
the
ground
up
to
the
bottom
of
the
floor
system.
Whenever
we're
hard
to
go
down
and
take
a
look
at
that,
I
did
a
structural
analysis
of
the
foundation
that
was
underneath
there
and
being
in
this
for
a
lot
of
years.
G
There's
not
a
footer!
That's
going
to
work
out
underneath
that
construction,
let's
just
go
through
that
part
of
it
first,
because
I
went
in
to
find
out
about
a
demo
permit
that's
an
extremely
unsafe
structure
as
it
sits
today.
You've
got
a
footer,
that's
not
connected
in
any
way
shape
or
form
to
the
block
the
block
columns
it's
underneath
there
do
not
have
any
mortar
in
between
them.
G
Then,
when
you
get
up
to
the
conventional
roof
system,
that's
all
two
by
fours
they
haven't
made
a
roof
system
out
of
two
before
it's
probably
in
a
hundred
years,
that
should
have
been
a
minimum
of
a
tube
of
six
there's
no
hurricane
clamps
in
there.
It's
not
even
attached
to
the
original
structure.
So
as
soon
as
I
seen
that
I
talked
to
the
owner
and
I
went
down
to
the
building
department
said
we
need
to
get
a
demo
permit
to
remove
that
section.
G
That's
sitting
there
right
now,
because
a
good
storm
that's
going
to
go.
So
that's
extreme
safety
factor
right
there.
That
I
was
concerned
about
more
than
putting
the
building
back
together.
So
I
said
once
that's
gone,
there
should
be
proper
footers
put
in
the
column
should
be
put
in
the
way
they're
supposed
to
be
with
the
concreteness.
Still,
then
you
do
your
floor
system,
and
then
you
do
your
frame.
Walls
on
the
outside
now
you've
got
your
skeleton
to
work
with.
G
Whenever
you
look
at
the
roof
system,
that's
up
there
right
now
on
the
old
versus
the
new
there's,
an
exact
pitch
on
that
roof
that
whole
roof
system
coming
down.
The
side
is
set
up
at
the
same
pitch,
to
match
exactly
what's
their
turn
and
go
across
the
back
and
have
exactly
the
same
pitch
on
the
back.
So
will
match
the
structure
just
as
if
it
was
done
at
one
time,
part
conventionally
framed
as
a
roof,
and
then
the
other
part
of
it
was
set
up
to
were
on
a
conventional
trust.
G
It
had
to
be
extended
kind
of
like
a
twelve
to
one
slope,
would
come
down
and
then
sloped
down
on
the
outside
to
match,
because
they
all
have
to
be
just
over
seven
feet
across
the
back.
Seven
could
put
across
the
side
to
come
out
the
same
pitch
up
front.
We
did
keep
the
little
walkway
upstairs
the
way
it
was.
We
didn't
want
to
touch
that
and
then,
as
far
as
the
electrical,
the
electrical
would
be
updated.
G
G
I
ordered
a
piece
it
didn't
get
in
but
like
I
show
you
a
picture
of
what
it
looks
like
and
the
sighting
is
not
only
going
to
go
just
down
to
the
side
where
its
frame
that
will
be
continued
all
the
way
to
the
ground.
So
it
looks
like
it
matches
and
then
and
I'll
show
you
that
here
in
just
a
second-
and
we
talked
also
about
the
windows
and
the
doors
when
I
first
looked
at,
that
the
original
door
is
up
front.
G
Of
course
that
was
closed
in
around
the
60s
and
then,
whenever
you
get
to
the
back
of
that,
she
went
next
door
and
shot
some
pictures
of
the
house,
which
is
a
sister
home
to
it.
They
have
a
sliding
glass
door
in
the
back
and
she
says
I'd
like
to
have
a
sliding
glass
door
and
I'm
thinking.
Well,
if
that
was
done
here,
you
know
not
too
awful.
Far
back,
you
could
probably
get
a
sliding
glass
door
put
in
the
back
to
match
the
same
thing
again.
G
That
would
be
a
Pella
door
which
it
match
exactly
what's
next
door
now,
if
the
board
chooses
not
to
do
that,
then
we
said:
okay,
French
doors
go
back
to
about
1790,
so
I
also
put
a
packet
in
on
Pella
French
doors
in
the
back
and
which
would
be
the
single
glass
panes
which
match
some
of
the
doors.
That's
in
the
house
currently
today,
which
would
be
over
back
to
the
time
that
the
house
was
originally
built.
So
let
me
show
you
this
side
anything
if
I
can
come
down
to
your
first
just
a
second.
F
F
A
Let's
let
the
record
reflect
that
mr.
waters,
his
now
showed
us
two
different
items
one
earlier.
He
showed
us
a
sample
of
the
shingle
to
be
used
on
the
roof,
and
the
second
thing
he
just
showed
us
was
a
sample
cut
sheet
from
the
hardy
board
to
be
used
on
the
this,
for
the
siding
for
the
addition,
okay.
G
G
You
know
creatures
and
stuff
in
it,
and
also,
when
you
add
wood
to
the
next
year,
some
of
the
homes
you're,
adding
the
factor
in
there
that
you're
taking
a
chance
that
this
thing
could
catch
on
fire
down
the
road.
If
something
went
wrong
with
it
and
that's
why
we
chose
to
do
the
hardiplank,
that's
a
lifetime
sighting,
that's
guaranteed
for
life
once
it's
installed
properly
and
painted
and
sealed
that'll,
be
there
long
after
we're
gone,
and
but
it
still
gives
you
that
look
of
wood.
A
G
Going
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
ground,
so
those
piers
that's
sitting
there
right
now.
It
can
go
right
over
top
of
those
piers.
Those
piers
will
be
just
behind
it,
because
the
piers
set
back
about
an
inch
in
from
where
the
sighting
is
right
now
above
it.
So
as
the
piers
come
down,
the
the
sighting
is
also
going
to
come
down
and
just
in
front
of
the
pier.
So
when
you
look
at
it,
you're
not
gonna,
see
the
pier
you're
only
going
to
see
the
sighting,
just
as
if
that
whole
wall
is
sighting.
A
A
A
A
A
Dimensions
of
the
of
the
the
size
and
the
dimensions
of
the
addition
on
the
proposed
site
plan
don't
match
up
to
the
floor
plan
on
the
floor
plan.
It
seems
to
be
bigger.
My
other
concern
is
we
don't
have
a
full
elevation,
which
is
what
we
do
require
on
a
case
like
this,
where
you're
doing
it.
In
addition
on
the
the
yeah,
you
gave
it
to
us
for
the
rear
elevation,
but
we
don't
have
a
side
elevation.
A
And
you
know,
most
of
us
probably
have
been
to
the
side
so
miss
drive
by
there
every
day
you
know
cuz,
it's
a
small
town,
it's
a
major
road.
So
there's
that's
kind
of
some
quick
comments.
I
will
say
for
another
inconsistency
that
you
really
need
to
fix
on.
Your
application
is
onion
proposed
site
plan.
It
says
new
two-story
garage.
Well,
there's
nothing
in
your
application
about
a
garage,
so
we.
A
Right
so
that
needs
to
come
off.
You
know
a
site
plan,
but
but
bigger
than
that,
I
guess
you
know
those
are
procedural
issues
and
those
are
those
are
fixable.
I'm
sure
you
can
do
that.
My
problem
is
the
entire
building
is
a
brick
building.
The
entire
building
has
been
since
the
beginning
of
time
since
it
was
built,
and
yet
for
this
addition,
you're
introducing
a
new
material
and
I
I.
A
If
it
were
on
the
back,
a
small
portion
on
the
back,
maybe
that
would
be
consistent
and
compatible,
but
when
you're
adding
you
know,
you
have
wood
nowhere
on
the
building
except
didn't,
though
well
I
mean
the
trim
of
the
wood
trim
of
the
doors
and
in
the
windows,
but
the
prominent
building
material
on
this
building
is
brick.
I'm
also
concerned
that
you're
using
these
piers
and
the
footers
is
all
submitted,
show
it
pretty
clearly
how
this
building
has
a
pretty
unusual
and
pretty
interesting
brick
pattern
along
the
bottom,
that's
replicated
throughout
the
whole
building.
A
A
The
biggest
problem
I
have
is
you've
got
inconsistencies
in
the
application.
You've
got
things
on
your
plans
that
are
not
advertised
and
that
we're
not
reviewed,
and
then
you've
got
things
that
really
are
not
compatible.
You
know,
with
the
historic
element:
I
personally
am
NOT
going
to
vote
for
a
sliding
glass
door,
whether
or
not
the
next
guy
did
it
before
the
ordinance
was
in
place.
It
really
is
irrelevant
sliding.
A
Are
not
a
historic
element:
French
doors,
yes,
I'd,
be
all
about
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
width
of
it,
but
it's
got
to
be
something
that
is
a
historic
element
that
would
have
happened.
You
know
in
that
historic
period,
recognizing
that
it's
new
materials
and
new.
You
know
that,
but
it's
still
a
sliding,
glass
and
or
just
didn't
exist
in
you
know
when
most
correct.
G
A
A
I
wouldn't
approve
the
board,
but
you've
got
all
these
inconsistencies
and
this
board
is
all
about.
You
know
when
we
approve
something.
What
you
see
is
what
you
get.
The
plans
have
got
to
show
exactly
what
we
approve,
because
then,
when
the
staff
goes
and
looks
at
it
for
building
permits,
it's
real
easy.
They
look
at
your
building
permits.
G
What
you're
saying
like
I
said
that
there
was
some
leeway
given
err
where
would
be
able
to
go
back
and
forth
either
way.
So
I
could
understand
that
if
you
like,
if
you
guys
wanted
to
go
for
an
extension
on
that,
we
can
go
back
and
adjust
to
building
plans.
So
there's
nothing
left,
open
or
there's
any
leeway.
G
It
would
be
specific
from
the
ground
to
the
top
both
sides
and
we
can
address
the
siding
on
the
back
change,
the
sliders
to
the
French
doors
and
then
other
than
the
doing
the
clapboard
versus
doing
the
brick
on
the
sides.
So
that's
something
that
you're
saying.
Basically
it's
either
the
brick
or
nothing.
H
I
agree
with
what
you
said,
mr.
Feeny,
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
bothered
me
when
I
saw
this
application,
because,
as
Herot
Preservation
Board
I
wanted
to
understand
how
we
went
from
constructing
and
stopping
construction
and
changing
contractors
and
when
the
permits
came
in
and
when
they
didn't
and
what
the
building
looked
like
before
all
this
renovations
started.
I
just
I
still
don't
see
what
happened
to
this
building
is
in
a
historical
area
and
we're
here
to
preserve
the
historical
buildings.
This.
G
H
I
Name
is
karol
noticed
my
sister
hired
a
contractor
in
May
2016,
and
the
house
was
the
way
you
have
googled
it
and
saw
it
with
that.
Back
porch
and
the
July
see
windows
and
the
way
it
was
and
when
she
hired
the
contractor,
she
had
told
him
that
she
wanted
the
job
to
get
done
with
permits
with
plans
and
that
she
wanted
just
to
get
it
restored,
because
the
foundation
of
the
house
was
not
good
the
back
porch.
I
It
was
just
the
pathway
to
get
into
the
back
house
and
the
foundation
that
was
a
back
porch.
An
open
porch
and
the
only
way
with
the
foundation
was
up
was
with
those
little
columns,
those
little
wooden
columns
and
also
they
had
a
few
cement
blocks.
So
when
we
were
going
in
and
out
of
the
house,
it
was
as
if
you
were
in
the
boat.
The
floor
was
not
straight
the
purpose
of
it
getting
restored.
The
way
it
was
was
just
that
the
floor
was
straight.
I
That's
it
that's
all
we
wanted
at
the
end,
family
foundation
was
hired.
Justin
Jones
was
the
contractor.
He
went
to
do
the
job
like
a
quick
job
without
permits
without
plans
without
nothing.
My
sister
was
coming
down
to
the
building's
apartment
herself
and
she
was
asking
the
employees
at
the
building
department.
Has
there
been
a
permit
taken
out?
They
would
tell
her
no.
Have
there
been
plans
submitted?
No,
so
this
guy
just
came
in
he
sent
in
the
crew
about
ten
people,
which
you
would
think
they
escaped
from
a
Psychiatric
Center.
I
I
Was
demolished,
they
had
demolished
everything
everything
they
had
demolished,
everything
to
make
everything
new,
but
they
didn't
do
anything.
So
we
were
left
with
this
whole
mess
back
then
Anthony
the
director
of
the
building
department
came
down.
My
sister
had
spoken
with
them.
She
didn't
know
who
he
was.
You
know
he
asked
him.
What
did
he
want?
He
told
her
that
I've
been
sent
here
by
your
contractor.
I
have
a
lot
of
pressure
by
him
and
I
need
to
see
what's
going
on,
because
this
all
is
very
suspicious
to
me.
I
I
I
This
trashcans
there's
debris
and
they
were
kind
of
building
a
story
through
the
code
enforcement
and
we
had
them
on
our
backs
and
we
were
trying
to
work
with
them
and
the
first
date
for
the
villains
that
was
supposed
to
be
inspected
was
in
February
2018,
and
then
there
was
no
balling
this
it
was
going.
You
know,
February
March
May
just
kept
on
going
I
guess
in
order
for
them
to
have
enough
evidence
to
built
up
a
story
in
having
hearing
which
they
did
have.
I
The
hearing
was
July
12th
of
this
year
2018
and
they
asked
us.
No
actually
I
was
here
and
they
again
I
explained
everything
to
them.
They
gave
me
two
months
time
to
do
the
work
and
I
asked
them
if
they
can
give
me
an
extra
month
which
they
did
so
from
July.
Supposedly,
the
work
was
supposed
to
be
all
finished,
October
12th,
but
it
wasn't
because
it
was
very
hard
to
get
contractors.
I
You
know,
Bruce
I
had
met
him
in
August.
Again,
you
know
things
were
slow
with
everyone,
the
plan
getting
everything
together
and
that's
what
happened
and
then
I
went
to
given
the
papers.
I
believe
it
was
October
and
I
spoke
with
the
woman
lease
and
the
building's
apartment.
She
said
your
building
is
in
the
housing
preservation.
You
just
can't
get
permits
just
like
that,
which
we
did
not
know
and
that's
when
we
found
out
I
didn't
again
we're
trying
to
work
and
we're
trying
to
do
all
this.
I
I
You
know,
modern
things
and
getting
things
that
are
irrelevant,
because
that's
why
we
bought
the
homes
and
when
we
bought
the
mind
you
they
were
not
at
all
in
good
condition
like
I
had
to
get
a
new
roof,
we
had
to
get
new
windows,
we
had
to
draw
rugs,
we
had
to
do
electrical
work,
I
mean
the
building's
apartment
wasn't
involved.
No
one
was
involved
like
we
knew
what
to
do,
and
we
did
everything
you
know.
Of
course
those
were
all
it
permits
the
roof.
I
I
House
actually,
my
sister,
she
gave
it
to
my
son,
which
my
son
is
tough,
a
nose
he's
wearing
the
olive
shirt,
so
he's
the
new
owner,
and
that's
it
so
like
I
want
to
do
this
just
the
way
you
guys
are
saying:
no,
we
want
to
restore
it,
wanted
to
be
beautiful.
We
want
it
to
be
the
way
it
was,
but
we
also
want
to
do
it
like
we
don't
want
to
be
here.
Like
every
month
like
we
live
in
New
York,
it's
not
easy.
First
to
be
coming
here.
I
Everyone
works
at
a
different
pace
here
you
know,
as
far
as
hiring
contractor
is
hiring
you're
beautiful.
It's
tomorrow,
Friday
Monday
next
week,
we'll
do
it,
and
time
goes
by
so
I
heard
a
few
comments
earlier
where
he
was
saying
about
mr.
Pawnee,
you
were
saying
about
the
bad
that
has
to
be
brick,
I
didn't.
A
I
I
I
I
A
I'm
open
to
contemplating
that
I'm
open
to
see
if
I
saw
the
full
elevation
I
might
feel
differently
about
it,
but
the
new
material,
and
it's
that
large
and
it's
on
a
major
street.
So
that's
kind
of
like
three
strikes.
If
it
were
an
interior
part
in
the
back,
where
no
one
could
see
it,
that
was
that's
different,
but
you're
a
corner
lot
on.
F
A
A
What
I'm
saying
is,
historically,
it
probably
was
a
sleeping
porch
or
it
could
have
been
a
passage
you
know
into
the
kitchen
look,
but
it
looks
to
me
like
it
was
a
sleeping
porch
that
was
then
close
with
Windows.
That's
very
common.
You
know
in
the
South
doesn't
really
matter,
except
that
now,
with
the
photograph,
we
have
an
idea
what
it
looked
like
exactly.
A
A
J
A
A
A
So
any
work
that
was
there
before
1990
wouldn't
have
been
reviewed
by
this
board.
So
you
know
there's
lots
of
improvements
that
we're
done
to
properties
way
before
1990
all
right.
What
are
the
any
other
I
forgot
to
ask?
Is
there
anyone
here
that
wants
to
speak
for
or
against
this
application?
One
way
or
the
other
we're
happy
to
hear
you,
this
455
East,
Turpin,
Avenue,
okay,
seeing
no
one
rise,
its
back
to
the
board?
What
would
you
like
to
do.
A
Well,
I'm
happy
to
give
them
I
mean
I,
know
that
staff
made
their
recommendation.
I
personally
be
happy
to
give
them
a
continuance
that
they
could
resubmit
redraw
resubmit
based
on
the
comments
they
heard
tonight,
and
then
you
don't
have
to
pay
the
application,
for
you
again
have
to
pay
the
advertising
again
because
I
don't
know
when
you
would
come
back
in.
D
Don't
I
think
it's
completely
up
to
the
applicant
I
know
you
have
an
active
code
case.
I
I
think
that
we've
talked
about
and
you've
gone.
You
have
a
staff
report
that
has
several
items
and
you've
heard
from
the
board
and
I'm
hoping
the
next
round.
If
we
do
continue
this
we
can.
We
can
have
all
of
those
items,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
think
you
can
do
that.
The
next
meeting
is
January,
14th
and
I
would
need
those
items.
Obviously
ahead
of
time
to
review.
A
G
We
were
just
speaking
just
a
minute
ago
and
with
Christmas
and
stuff
coming
up
in
New
Year's
and
all
that
stuff.
It's
gonna
take
time
to
go
back
and
because,
when
you
guys
get
just
back,
it's
gonna
have
a
lot
more
detail
than
you've
got
this
time.
And
that
way,
all
the
different
items
will
be
coverage,
sections
to
be
covered.
And
then
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
be
able
to
go
back
and
have
all
this
information
for
you
and
if
we
could
do
it
February
instead
of
January.
G
Let
me
let
me
ask
you
this
looking
at
it
and
you
know
trying
to
work
with
you
guys
as
much
as
we
can.
Could
we
get
the
board's
opinion
on
what
they
think
about
deciding
versus
going
back
and
doing
all
the
brick?
Because
if
you
look
at
the
original
house,
the
house
was
not
all
brick,
you
had
a
porch
in
the
back.
That
was
all
wood
with
wood
trim.
If
you
look
at
the
front
of
the
house
and
look
at
the
house
next
door,
that
house
has
been
closed
in
the
original
house.
That
was
there.
G
It
was
also
a
wood
porch
and
all
that
front
was
wood
on
it.
So
it
is
a
it
is:
a
combination
of
wood
and
brick,
not
just
all
brick
but,
like
you
said
there
could
be
sections
that
could
be
brick
in
it
or
we
could
back,
go
back
and
do
the
bottom
end,
brick
to
make
it
match
the
front
section,
and
this
time
you'll
see
the
elevations
of
the
old
and
the
new
combined
together.
So
you
can
see
what
does
look
like
and
then
go
back,
and
we
could
run
that
bottom.
G
Brick
all
the
way
through
to
the
back,
so
the
the
venting
part
underneath
the
floor
system
would
match
from
the
front
to
the
rear
and
you
could
mix
and
match.
If
we
do
something
like
that
with
accents,
it
would
the
board
consider
using
some
of
the
the
party
plank
on
the
side,
or
is
that
something
that's
just
totally
out
so
we'll
have
some
type
of
guidelines
from
you
guys
which
way
to
go.
We.
A
Can't
we
don't
take
a
vote
on
these
issues.
Individual
board
members
can
respond
if
they
like
I
personally,
don't
think
Hardy
board
is
appropriate
on
a
contributing
building
of
this
stature.
That's
my
personal
opinion
so,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
do
think
is
really
important.
Is
you've
got
that
that
lattice
on
the
bottom
of
the
foundation
on
the
entire
rest
of
the
house,
and
if
it's
not
on
this
part
or
some,
maybe
there'd,
you
have
variants
of
it.
A
G
G
G
G
Okay,
let
me
ask
you
this,
and
if
we
do
the
new
presentation
for
you
guys,
I
could
do
a
sighting
that
should
or
the
side
that
shows
the
sighting
in
the
brick.
That's
up
front.
That's
existing
with
that
brick
all
the
way
on
the
bottom.
We
could
do
also
a
side
elevation
that
show
brick
all
the
way
through
with
a
brick
on
the
bottom.
H
G
A
G
F
G
I'm
going
to
work
with
you
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
little
input
from
the
board
because
it's
it's
like
well!
Why
do
it
one
way
and
beat
it
to
death?
Go
back
and
come
back
again
where,
if
we
get
a
little
bit
of
input
to
where
what
the
board
is
thinking,
what
you're
looking
for
that
gives
me
a
little
bit
better
idea
how
to
do
the
design
on
it.
A
A
G
A
A
look
at
the
pattern
of
the
windows
on
the
rest
of
the
house.
We
seem
kind
of
just
on
there
without
any
real
pattern
to
them,
I
mean
the
rest
of
the
house.
They've
got
two
together
and
then
a
door,
and
then
two
together
I
mean
I.
Think
you
need
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit
and
see
if
there's
some
fenestration
pattern.
That
is
a
little
more
consistent
with
what
you
have
in
the
rest
of
the
mountains.
Okay,.
D
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
and
I,
don't
know
where
your
other
house
is,
but
you
might
want
to
check
and
make
sure
it's
if
it's
in
the
historic
district
in
your
innovations
to
that
house,
it's
a
pretty
big
assort
district
I'm,
just
saying
we
got
it
goes
all
the
way
to
the
Bayou.
It
goes
a
couple
of
other
block
east
of
where
you
are
today
goes
north
I'm
on
West
a
City
Hall
and
it
goes
south
to
lemon.
So
it's
a
pretty
big
district.
So
let
the
staff
confirm
that
you.
A
D
D
Basically,
it
has
aluminum
windows
which
make
the
original
windows
the
replacement
is.
The
proposal
is
to
replace
those
with
vinyl
windows.
The
replacement
style
matches
the
existing
windows
with
a
simple
single
pane
design.
The
existing
windows
have
foix
utters
and
concrete
sills,
and
those
are
not
proposed
to
be
disturbed.
D
D
The
noddle
notable
architectural
features,
which
would
be
the
brick
sills
brick
band
and
faux
shutters,
will
not
be
disturbed.
The
renovations
are
consistent
with
historic
guidelines,
meet
the
land
development
code
and
are
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
application
and
the
postcards
were
sent.
There
were
no
responses
to
the
postcards.
A
L
A
A
A
L
A
D
L
A
L
L
A
A
A
D
A
Then
thank
you
for
getting.
That
was
very
helpful
and
the
only
other
suggestion
I
had
is
in
our
January
packet.
Would
you
mind
putting
in
there
that
calendar
for
the
year
I
know
it's
on
the
website,
but
you
just
included
be
helpful
and
we'll
have
it
right,
mm-hmm
and
where
our
next
meeting
is
is
a
week
later
than
normal,
so
its
January
14
we're
good
with
that
all
right.
So
we
are
adjourned
and
we'll
see
everybody
on
January
14th
hope
everybody
has
a
wonderful
holiday.