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A
Okay,
four:
okay:
let's
go
on
to
approving
the
minutes
for
may
3rd.
A
No,
do
you
have
a
motion.
D
A
A
Okay,
can
we
get
with
the
attorney
for
the
quasi
judicial,
okay,.
E
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
heritage
preservation
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
find
against
the
applicant.
E
E
F
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
first
application.
First,
application
is
2143.
This
is
for
28
west
center
street
installation
of
a
porch
and
a
roof
on
it.
Applicant
I
mean
staff
that
can
present
okay.
G
G
G
This
is
from
the
side,
and
this
is
the
later
edition
that
the
master
site
file
form
notes,
not
sure
if
that
was
always
enclosed
or
was
a
porch
or
just
an
accessory
edition.
G
And
again,
this
is
an
addition
to
a
porch
addition
to
that
previous
rear
edition
and
it's
going
to
be
extending
out
from
that
shed
roof
extending
out
with
a
front
front
oriented
gable
roof.
When
you
look
at
the
porch,
you
can
probably
will
be
able
to
see
at
least
parts
of
that
porch
from
the
east
center
street
view
the
applicant
depending
on
how
they
fill
in
that
yard.
You
may
not
be
able
to
see
it
over
time
from
the
west
side.
G
It's
pretty
close,
set
back
to
the
next
house,
so
you
wouldn't
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
see
it
from
there.
Materials
will
be
shingle
roof
and
then
the
rest
of
the
materials
proposed
are
wood.
Again,
this
is
the
survey.
This
is
the
site
plan
showing
the
added
wood.
It's
actually
a
porridge
covered
wood
deck,
but
it's
a
porch
and
it
shows
the
back
of
the
house.
G
The
fenestration
doors
won't
be
altered
and
then
look
at
that
design
of
how
their
roof
comes
in.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
a
gable
roof
pointing
toward
the
backyard,
and
then
it's
going
to
come
right
out
from
that
shed
roof
and
you
can
see,
looks
like
there
was
a
middle
window
enclosed,
that's
kind
of
where
the
point
will
meet.
G
No
none
of
these,
the
louvered
vents
and
the
windows
won't
be
disturbed,
but
it
looks
like
let
me
go
back.
Looks
like
these
rafter
tails
will
be
completely
covered.
G
G
H
G
Where
I'm
concluding
that
the
rafter
tails
will
be
hidden
on
that
rear
edition,
but
the
form
of
the
addition
it
it
was
some
the
it
was
added
sometime
in
the
past,
maybe
kind
of
far
in
the
past.
It
looks
like
there's
no
date
on
the
site
file
form
but
you'll
be
able
to
tell
you
know
the
addition.
Is
there
you'll
be
able
to
recognize
it
as
an
addition?
So
I
don't
think
it
really
disturbs
that
previous
alteration
of
the
property.
H
G
This
is
just
another
view
from
the
rear
showing-
and
this
is
an
older
picture-
the
shed's
not
there
yet,
but
it's
that
sheds
back
in
the
corner
here.
But
that's
that's
where
you'll
see
the
porch
extending
out
from
the
rear,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
project
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
on.
H
A
A
Okay,
we'll
just
go
on
from
there
public
comments.
Anybody
have
public
comments
on
it.
A
Okay,
are
we
on
zoom
now
or
no.
G
A
D
D
A
G
A
I
A
H
A
F
A
It
second
has
been
done.
Can
we
have
a
roll
call
vote.
A
That's
good,
we'll
move
on
to
application
2160.
This
is
east
tarpon
avenue,
you're
replacing
oh
the
storefront.
Yes,.
H
G
Of
a
storefront,
this
is
at
105
east
tarpon.
So
it's
in
this
building
here
there
are
two
two
tenants
in
this
building
or
two
tenant
spaces
again
right,
downtown
on
tarpon
avenue,
the
west
space
is
occupied
by
the
backdrafts
pizza.
The
e-space
is
currently
empty,
so
we're
looking
to
completely
replace
that
storefront
with
a
storefront
that
matches
the
backdrafts
peach
pizza,
which
is
at
101
east
tarpon
avenue.
G
G
G
G
We
have
the
switch
to
the
bank,
but
again
I
could
not
locate
any
photographs
earlier
than
the
1940s
and
the
applicants
didn't
didn't,
submit
any
historic
photographs
or
material
that
way,
so
we're
looking
to
completely
demolish
this
storefront
and
replace
it
with
a
one,
a
flat
panel
type
store
door
front
or
a
single
plane.
Storefront,
that's
similar
to
backdrifs.
G
G
With
that
look,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
original
windows
would
have
been
curved
like
that
or
not.
So
that's
some
something
I'm
not
sure
about,
but
so
we
have.
The
recessed
feature
is
one
item.
We
have
fixed
transom
windows,
I
don't
know
if
they
ever
opera
operated
and
were
replaced,
but
we
have
the
transom
area
up
here
and
then
you've
got
a
signboard
feature
here
that
was
stuccoed
in
the
past.
G
G
G
Kind
of
judging
from
the
backdrafts
it's
going
to
be
the
same
design
and
same
height
is
what
I
gather
from
the
application
and
if
you
look
the
way
backdrafts
ends
up
is
there
is
the
stucco
still
on
the
top
and
then
a
window
feature
added
so
you're
looking
at
the
height
here.
G
So
it's
got
the
the
brick
underneath
this
is
looking
inside
through
the
glass
you
can
see
the
brick
and,
of
course,
outside
it's
covered
with
this
vitrolite
and
then
the
wood
framing
and
the
curved
glass
that's
in
there.
This
is
just
views
up
and
down
the
street.
This
is
going
west.
This
is
going
east.
G
There
are,
I
counted,
eight
recess
storefronts
in
this
block.
This
is
in
the
heart
of
downtown,
so
it's
it's
pretty
prominent
area
for
looking
at
these
storefronts,
there
were
a
couple
of
those
that
were
in
a
single
business.
G
I've
listed
several
guidelines
in
your
staff
report
that
should
be
looked
at
just
call
out
one
of
those
and
that
would
be
to
maintain
and
restore
character,
defining
features
of
the
commercial
which
would
be
historic,
storefronts,
transom,
signboards,
bulkheads
windows,
cornices
and
other
architectural
details.
So
that
would
be
something
you
should
should
take
a
close
look
at.
G
I
found
that
the
height
and
width
of
the
building
won't
change,
but
the
height
and
width
of
the
front
facade
will
be
altered
so
item
one.
I
didn't
think
it
was
consistent
with
your
review
standard
number
one
but
number
two
again
those
features
I
just
read
from
the
guidelines
will
be
altered
or
replaced.
G
G
A
I've
got
one
question:
okay,
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
backdrafts
and
we
were
working
with
the
facade
on
that
one,
the
existing
facade
was
that
closer
to
let's
say
1895
or
was
that?
Has
that
been
modified
or
do
we
know.
G
It
if
you
look
at
your
guidelines
in
commercial
vernacular
for
for
the
form,
I
think
the
recessed,
the
the
configuration
of
the
entry,
the
recessed
entry
is
closer
to
the
1895
or
is
original
to
the
1895
building.
Again,
I
could
not
document
that
with
historic
photography.
G
No,
that
was
replaced
and
if
we
go
back
to
now
that
was
replaced,
and
the
applicant
can
probably
tell
you
when
this
work
was
done.
But
if
you
go
back
to
the
older
pictures.
G
You'll
see
that
that
side
already
had
a
a
plain
panel.
Okay,
so
all
the
applicant
did
here,
I
believe,
and
she
can
confirm-
was
to
change
out
this
metal
single
plane
panel
with
with
a
with
one
that
had
the
dark
kind
of
powder
coated
panel.
Okay
and
again
you
know,
if
you
look
at
the
bank,
it
looks
like
that
work
may
have
been
done
when
the
bank
was
put
in.
G
I
thought
I'm
just
guessing,
but
I
and
of
course
this
whole
this
whole
over
roof
and
everything
is
gone,
that
that
was
remo
that
was
probably
added
on,
and
then
it
was
taken
off
again,
I'm
guessing
again.
Okay,
so.
A
No,
okay,
the
applicant,
you
can
say
we're
you
just
keep
seated.
Do
you
want
to
present
your
case
or
present
anything
to.
H
J
J
And
the
glass
that
is
curved
now
and
instead
of
being
sealed
together,
it
has
some
type
of
buttons
that
keeps
the
glass
together
and
I
don't
even
think
it
is
glass,
it's
more
like
a
plexiglas
and
whenever
there's
storms
or
we
have
high
winds.
It's
very,
I
believe
it's
cracked
too,
on
one
of
the
side
as
you're
facing
the
door
to
the
left.
It's
cracked
too,
it's
not
very
thin,
so
we're
going
to
replace
the
whole
front
to
match.
101
and
everything
looks
like
a
clean
line
going
through
and
we're
adding
the
veneer
on
both.
H
A
Okay,
any
public
comments
on
this.
J
J
A
A
I
understand
yeah,
okay,
okay,
let's
see.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
public
comment.
D
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
fixed
transoms
right
now
they
they
do.
I
know
you,
you
talk
about
matching
101.
in
the
drawings
here
in
the
photos.
They
don't
look
like
they're
going
to
match.
D
H
H
A
A
A
Okay?
Now
you
can
on
this
case,
you
can
argue
both
cases
very
well.
Okay,
like
you're,
arguing
that
it
should
be
closer
to
backdrafts
101,
because
that's
closer
to
the
19
or
1895.
A
A
I
think
when
we
come
up
to
something
like
this,
a
lot
more
weight
should
be
put
on
the
owner.
Okay,
the
owner's
decision
because,
like
I
say
both
arguments
are
right.
Okay,
both
arguments
have
their
credence.
Both
are
fairly
equal,
you
know.
So
now
we
have
to
say:
okay,
how
are
we
going
to
weigh
this
and
I
believe
it
should
be
with
the
owner?
You
know
what
hurt
desires
are
how
she
thinks
her
property
should
look
and
how
it
should
fit.
A
A
This
has
a
1940s
on
one
side
and
the
late
1800s
on
the
other,
so
what
you
can
consider
is
which
would
in
the
overall
look
what
would
look
better
going
with
what's
on
the
street?
As
we
see
it,
any
comments.
D
Well,
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
D
D
G
You
can
certainly,
and-
and
you
know,
kind
of
the
rub
on
these
is
then
the
building
permit
comes
through
my
desk,
I
pulled
a
certificate
of
approval,
look
at
what
was
proposed
and
look
at
the
conditions
the
board
put
on
the
certificate
of
approval.
If
it
makes
you
more
comfortable
to
condition
this
that
it
matches
the
applicant
has
assured
you.
It
will
be
that's
your
option,
but
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
that.
But
if
it's
not
a
condition,
it
makes
it
easier
for
me
to
enforce
at
building
permit
time.
D
I'll
make
the
motion
to
approve,
with
the
condition
that
it
is
the
new
windows
and
doors
are
exact,
matches
all
the
sight
lines,
the
thickness
of
all
the
framing
the
color
everything
is
exact
to
what
exists
already
and
that
any
of
the
brick
veneer
will
only
go
where
that
black
tile
is
right
now
and
when,
when
I
talk
about
exact
match,
I'm
talking
about
that,
I
don't
know
how
much
it
is:
18
inches
or
14
inches
of
the
little
stucco
kind
of
strip
at
the
top.
D
F
E
E
Mr
chair,
might
I
interject
one
thing
to
what
the
chair
had
said
earlier
aside
from
the
guidelines,
the
actual
tarpon
springs
code
under
heritage
preservation
says
that
one
of
your
requirements
for
the
certificate
of
approval
is
that
the
width
and
height
of
windows,
doors
and
entry
shall
be
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
building's
original
architectural
style.
In
reading
that
that
goes
back
to
kind
of
what
you
were
saying.
E
Maybe
some
of
these
changes
were
made
in
the
1940s,
but
the
intent
of
the
code
is
to
make
sure
that
you
get
as
close
to
the
original
historic
style
as
possible,
whose
job
is
that
this
board?
I
say
that
to
say
this.
There
was
a
emotion
I
believe
that
had
been
made.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
withdrawn.
Purely
from
a
procedural
point
of
view.
E
There
was
then
some
discussion,
so
if
we
could
just
either
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
discussion
or
continue
discussion
and
have
a
have
a
motion
in
a
second,
it
looks
like
there
was
a
motion
and
then
it
just
kind
of
petered
out,
and
there
was
no
second.
So
then
there
was
some
discussion
with
an
adverse,
an
adverse
position
to
the
motion.
I
just
for
procedural
reasons.
We
need
to
either
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
a
discussion,
or
we
can
continue.
E
And
that
way
people
can
pick
their
positions.
Remember
just
because
you
make
a
motion
that
may
not
be
the
position
that
you
want
to
take.
It's
just
a
means
to
open
up
discussion
for
the
board.
That's.
D
Okay,
well,
I
stand
by
the
original
motion
to
approve,
as
long
as
everything
matches
exactly
to
the
105
building
and
the
brick
is
only
to
go
on
the
black
tile
area.
A
second.
D
And
actually,
the
only
discussion
that
maybe
I
would
have
okay
is-
is
that
I
wouldn't
have
made
that
motion
if
that
building
didn't.
If
what
was
already
done
next
door
was
done,
I
would
not
have
gone
in
that
direction.
Just
to
clarify
okay,
okay,.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
go
on
to
the
next
one.
A
G
G
So
it's
it's
visible
from
the
rear
alley,
although
there
is
a
substantial
contributing
garage
on
the
rear
alley.
So
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
this
is
the
site
plan
again,
there's
an
existing
deck
and
there's
some
concrete,
slabs
and
and
pavers
in
the
back
now
so
kind
of
older
kind
of
leftover
features
back
there
that
are
going
to
be
cleaned
up
and
and
redone.
G
The
front
sidewalk
is
concrete,
the
front
steps
and
the
supports
appears
for
the
home,
our
brick
or
there's.
You
can
see
some
of
this
tile
incorporated
into
that,
so
the
brick
for
the
front
sidewalk
would,
I
think,
be
consistent
with
with
what's
there
now.
Obviously,
this
could
be
easily
changed
out
in
any
time,
so
it
really
doesn't
disturb
the
property.
It
gives
it
a
little
more
enhancement
again.
G
Here's
that
rear
contributing
garage
in
the
back
scene
from
the
alley-
and
I
just
stepped
around
the
corner
of
the
garage
I
knocked
on
the
door,
but
no
one
was
home.
So
I
took
a
couple
pictures:
you
can
see:
here's
the
wood
deck,
you
can
see
it's
deteriorating
and
a
slab
and
then
some
of
the
paver
material.
That's
back
there.
Now
it's
a
little
bit
overgrown,
and
this
is
the
paver
material
that
is
proposed
for
that
rear
kind
of
patio.
G
E
I
I
What
I'm
doing
now
is
pretty
minimal.
The
front
walkway,
I
believe,
is
an
original
concrete,
but
it's
been
it's
unheated
and
broken
and
stuff.
So
I'd
like
to
replace
that
with
pavers
in
sort
of
like
the
herringbone
pattern
and
then
in
the
back
was
an
old
deck
which
I've
partially
demoed,
there's
still
a
substantial
part
left.
So
I
like
to
get
that
out
and
then
put
a
on
grade
paper
patio
in
the
back,
but
everything
will
be
on
on
grade.
There
won't
be
any
fill
other
than
just
leveling
the
area
out
for
the
pavers.
I
I
Yeah
right
now
the
duck
yeah
there's
holes,
so
it's
not
safe.
Okay,
okay,.
C
A
Okay,
there's
a
discussion:
do
we
have
with
the
board
no.
D
K
Rules:
okay,
this.
E
A
A
Discussion
any
discussions,
no
no,
no
hearing.
None
can
we
have
a
vote.
B
A
Our
last
on
the
docket
is
application
2189.
This
is
at
110
north
spring
street,
replacing
some
cedar
sheen
shingles
staff
can
brief
us
on
that.
G
G
With
respect
to,
and
I've
got
a
lot
of
pictures
here,
the
applicant
is
here
condos
construction
to
see.
Lee
cantos
is
here
to
explain
some
of
the
technical
aspects
of
this
project
that
you
might
have
questions
on.
So
these
are
some
views
of
the
resonance.
This
is
the
illustration
of
the
shingle
style,
and
this
one
really
does.
G
G
Okay
and
as
far
as
your
I'll
just
go
back
to
your
criteria,.
G
G
So
as
far
as
the
the
context
and
and
the
the
of
of
that
in
character
that
building
the
replacement
should
be
fine
as
long
as
it
looks
like
the
shingle
style.
So
as
far
as
some
criteria
number
three,
I
feel
that
that
is
met
the
anat,
the
applicant
did
replace
the
shingle
roof
recently
and
that
did
generate
some
of
the
issues
with
the
siding
as
they
went
to
replace
the
roof.
G
I
think
some
of
the
siding
obviously
was
found
to
be
in
pretty
bad
shape,
maybe
worse
than
they
thought,
and
they
can
talk
about
that.
Some
of
the
siding
may
be
original.
So
let's
look
at
the
pictures,
and
some
of
it
may
have
been
replaced
over
the
years
again.
This
residence
is
built
about
around
1900,
so
120
years
the
original
is
probably
pretty
deteriorated.
G
G
I'm
just
telling
you
this
from
my
experience
of
visiting
the
property.
G
At
the
same
time
as
noted
in
the
staff
report
and
in
your
guidelines,
replacement
of
siding
should
not
disturb
other
architectural
features
if
they
can
be
retained.
The
applicant
is
doing
a
very
detailed
and
labor
intensive
looks
like
to
me
project
here
of
keeping
all
the
dental
work.
The
molding
the
window
surrounds
the
wood
windows.
G
G
G
G
This
kind
of
picket
border
will
not
be
duplicated,
so
that
will
not
will
not
be
replaced
on
the
building,
but
that's
the
only
feature
that's
different,
I
think
with,
and
then
here
are
some
of
the
photos
from
the
applicant
showing
some
of
the
close-up
deterioration.
G
Again,
that's
this.
This
area
down
here
is
kind
of
crumbling.
This
is
on
the
south
facing
our
front
part
of
the
structure.
Again
the
west
side,
not
sure
what
side.
Then
it
was
west
side
again,
you
can
see
all
the
you
know.
This
area
is
deteriorating
and
maybe
some
could
have
been
some
replacement
there.
This
is
the
proposed
sighting.
G
G
This
is
a
yellow
color
that
they've
chosen
for
this
particular
resonance,
and
you
can
see
you
know
there
it's
kind
of
a
different
sizes,
but
a
kind
of
a
uniform
layout
of
the
siding
and
here's
another
picture
of
it
on
an
upper
story.
G
G
Some
of
your
standards
talk
about
the
surface
finish.
This
is
the
old
siding
and
I
couldn't
decide.
In
fact,
I
asked
the
applicant.
It
looks
like
some
of
the
siding
had
maybe
been
painted,
maybe
stained-
maybe
some
of
it
left
as
is,
and
he
can
talk
about
that.
This
looked
almost
painted,
but
you
could
see
wood
grain
on
most
of
the
existing
siding
and
there
will
be
a
wood
grain
finish
on
the
cement.
Fiber
siding
with
respect
to
your
guideline,
10b.
G
The
new
synthetic
siding
is
is
discouraged
overall,
but
the
use
of
the
fiber
cement
siding
may
be
approved
on
a
case-by-case
basis
if
one
or
more
of
the
following
conditions
are
present,
and
I
believe
these
these
items
would
be
probably
most
important
in
your
guidelines
for
you
to
consider
on
on
making
a
decision
here.
Number
one
is
if
the
applicant
can
prove
to
the
hpb
that
the
existing
siding
is
so
deteriorated
or
damaged,
that
it
cannot
be
repaired.
G
G
Number
three
is
the
applicant
can
provide
samples
or
documentation
of
the
historic
siding
and
the
proposed
replacement
to
ensure
that
the
substitute
material
matches
in
size
profile
finish
thickness.
Those
types
of
features
and
we'll
bring
that
over
for
you
to
look
at
and
then
number
four
is
that
the
substitute
material
matches
matches
the
historic
material
and
is
appropriate
to
the
style
of
the
building,
and
there
is
no
change
to
the
character
of
the
historic
building.
So
obviously
the
siding
is
besides
the
architectural
features.
The
siding
is
the
most
important
feature
of
the
shingle
style.
G
G
Again,
we
talked
about
the
comparative
size
and
finish,
and
the
thickness
appears
to
be
the
same,
we'll
pass
that
out
and
as
far
as
color
the
finished
color.
This
new
siding
was
not
provided
in
the
application,
although
you
can't
really
specify
a
required
color,
you
know
you
don't
really
regulate
color
again
the
character.
The
building
is
very
important
and
I
think
you
should
at
least
be
satisfied
that
the
proposed
color
will
preserve
the
character
of
the
style,
especially
since
there's
so
much
coverage,
and
this
is
such
a
prominent
building.
G
The
font,
the
secretary
standards,
I
think,
can
be
met
if
the
applicant
can
demonstrate
this
is
the
best
option
for
the
longevity
of
the
property
and
the
preservation
of
its
character,
and
this
project
does
comply
with
the
land
development
code
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
did
have
a
request
for
information
on
this
project
from
a
member
of
the
public,
but
there
was
no
comment.
K
Committee,
hello,
hello,
okay,
all
right,
so
what
we're
doing
is
it's
badly
decomposing,
so
we're
trying
to
kind
of
bring
the
structure
back
to
life
and
all
the
key
aspects
around
the
windows
and
doors
are
being
all
remilled
because
they're
not
the
same
size,
so
we're
kind
of
milling
them
now.
So
the
only
thing
we
got
to
change
is
the
siding
on
it
because
that's
badly
and
poor
shape
and
it's
letting
a
lot
of
water
and
moisture
into
the
property.
K
K
K
K
D
Time,
could
you
explain
how
this
these
new,
the
the
board,
gets
installed,
I'm
familiar
with
the
cedar,
shake
with
it
being
thinner
at
one
side
heavier
at
the
other
side
for
the
overlap
you.
I
K
D
K
K
K
Yeah
because
you're
only
looking
at
one
little
dragon
tooth
there
you're
not
looking
at
all
of
it.
That's
why
I
provided
the
other
photos.
They
actually
do
it
at
the
carriage
home
and
they
actually
painted
it.
Now
it
looks
better
than
what
it
is
when
we
took
those
photos,
and
I
think
she'll
should
go
back
to
it
like
right.
There.
K
K
A
A
B
A
Okay,
seeing
no
discussion
can
we
have
a
vote.
A
A
A
G
Let
you
all
know
that
the
last
four
meetings
of
the
year
have
been
moved
so
I'll
hand
out
this
schedule
and
they're
they're
going
to
be
the
second
thursday
instead
of
the
first
thursday,
and
then
I
will
be
sending
you
this
email,
but
we
have
offered
to
the
certified
local
governments,
two
virtual
trainings,
both
of
which
I'm
signed
up
for
and
hopefully
I'll
be
able
to
do
both
of
them.
G
G
Like
you
know,
stuff,
that's
coming
to
be
historic
now,
like
from
the
70s
that
maybe
somebody
might
like
me,
wouldn't
think
this
historically
they're
starting
to
be
those
are
on
september,
9th
and
10th.
So
I'll
send
you
this
and
then
you
can.
You
know
you
can
go
ahead
and
register
for
those
and,
if
you're
interested
in
those,
because
they
kind
of
like
a
headcount
of
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
attending
and
that's
it.
C
Pat
one
thing,
would
you
explain,
I
don't
know
if
everybody
saw
the
commission
on
the
on
the
the
sign
sign
that
needed
to
be
framed.
G
The
sign
at
I
think
it
was
218
east
tarpon.
It
was
appealed.
I
can't
remember
the
application
number
that
was
dina
monsieur's
sign.
G
Yes,
the
board
approved
that,
with
the
condition
that
they
put
a
frame
around
it,
so
that
that
is,
that
was
the
result
of
that
appeal.