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A
A
C
C
D
C
A
And
staff
would
like
to
ask
for
the
minutes
to
be
deferred
to
the
next
meeting.
We
have
too
many
issues
with
these.
We
we
put
them
out
a
little
too
quick,
so
we'd
ask
that
the
minutes
be
deferred.
A
C
Okay,
then,
the
approval
of
the
minutes
will
carry
over
to
next
month's
meeting
and
then
we'll
have
the
quasi-judicial
announcement
read
and
swearing-in
of
any
speakers.
E
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
heritage
preservation
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
applied
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
E
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
a
law
defined
against
the
applicant.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
expertise,
communications
or
conflicts
of
interest
this
evening.
B
E
A
C
E
A
A
On
north
safford
avenue,
this
is
proposed
between
orange
street
and
center
street,
and
this
is
proposed
by
mr
evan
mcconey,
who
some
of
you,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
were
on
the
board.
But
mr
mcconaughey
built
two
residences
right
around
the
corner
on
orange
street.
That
research.
A
This
lot
is
about
4
000
square
feet
in
sizes
is
a
little
infill
lot
in
the
city's
smart,
smart
special
area
plan,
so
in
the
transect
district
it
gets
one
unit
for
that
lot.
So
that's
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
do
here
and
by
the
way,
if
you
can
see
my
pointer
those
two
vacant.
Lots
on
this
aerial
are
where
the
other
two
residences
were
built
in
2019.
A
Again,
this
is
an
infill
lot.
The
home
to
the
south
is
a
contributing
altered,
structure
and
home
to
the
north
is
a
non-historic
non-contributing
structure
to
the
north.
A
We
have
a
single
family
on
the
fronts
on
center
street
and
then
there's
a
second
smaller
residence
behind
that
one
that
accesses
from
safford
avenue
and
as
far
as
the
area
itself
down
on
that
northwest
corner
of
orange
and
safford,
we
have,
like
I
say,
three
contributing
altered
adjacent
to
the
subject
lot
and
then
two
more
contributing
altered
structures,
they're
going
down
to
the
corner
and
then
back
here
on
orange
street,
we
have
the
two
new
new
construction
homes
that
went
in
in
2019.
A
This
is
just
some
of
the
project
features
and
it's
got
two
stories
at
the
front
and
one
in
back
and
then
all
these
other
features
I
won't
go
through
them,
but
basically
the
applicant
is
kind
of
taking
taking
advantage
of
the
lot
shape.
It's
a
excuse
me
sorry.
A
A
These
are
just
highlighting
the
your
review
standards
that
are
most
applicable
to
this
project,
you'll
notice
that
the
format
of
the
staff
report
has
changed
a
little
bit
and
I'm
going
to
keep
kind
of
incorporating
a
little
bit
of
change
and
update
to
your
all
your
processes
with
the
new
guidelines
having
been
adopted,
which
we'll
talk
about
later
one
of
those
is
to
kind
of
point
out
some
of
the
guidelines
that
would
be
especially
applicable
to
each
project.
So
I've
listed
those
in
your
staff
report.
A
This
kind
of
shows
the
lot
the
adjacent
structure
next
door,
like
I
say,
that's
a
contributing
altered
in
the
district.
This
is
the
the
vacant
lot
between
you
can
see
to
the
north.
Is
that
kind
of
secondary
or
almost
accessory
structure
behind
the
main
structure
on
center
street
across
the
street?
You've
got
coco
coco
at
this
construction
building.
It's
got
that
high,
like
a
portico
style,
porch
there,
and
then
views
up
and
down
stafford.
Of
course,
this
is
right
on
the
pinellas
trail,
just
to
kind
of
illustrate.
A
The
structure
to
the
south
is
probably
about
23
feet
from
grade
using
google
earth
to
measure
the
new
structures
and
the
proposed
structure
that
you're
looking
at
tonight
are
going
to
be
about
35
or
or
less,
and
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
talk
about
that
a
little
more,
but
we're
probably
looking
at
something
close
to
the
height
of
the
new
structures.
Back
behind
these
that
are
visible
from
safford
avenue.
A
A
I
believe
on
this
one.
The
applicant
can
confirm
we're
looking
at
the
lap
siding
really
for
that
two-story
structure
up
front
and
around
that
that
whole
second
story
and
then
the
stucco
would
be
for
that
first
floor,
going
back
to
the
back
of
the
lot
and
not
nearly
as
visible
really
even
as
these
are
since
they'll
be
between
two
properties
and
it's
a
pretty
narrow
lot.
A
As
for
the
rest
of
the
materials
just
see
the
typical
windows
and
doors
oops
that
we
have
there,
the
railing,
I
believe
the
applicant
has
said,
will
be
wood.
Some
of
the
you
know.
The
rest
of
this
is
the
cement
board.
The
paneling
of
these.
A
We
have
like
a
shake
this
shingle
in
the
gable
here
and
then
vinyl
or
or
those
types
of
materials
for
the
post,
the
porch.
This
porch
has
a
brick
floor
and
these
properties
have
brick
that
they
use
for
the
walkways
and
porch
floor,
and
I
guess
I
didn't
get
a
picture
of
the
driveway.
The
applicant
used,
basically
the
the
paving
only
in
the
wheel,
the
area
of
the
the
that
the
vehicle
wheels
would
be
going
on.
A
There's
probably
a
name
for
that,
so
that
that
was
a
design
where
they
reduced
the
amount
of
paving
needed.
The
porch
has
a
this.
Porch
has
a
wood
ceiling,
or
at
least
it
looks
like
wood.
So
those
are
things
you
can
ask
the
applicant
about,
but
basically
he
stated
that
this
home
would
be
similar
to
those,
and
this
is
a
couple
of
the
elevation
views,
we're
looking
at
a
metal
roof
again
similar
to
those
other
structures.
A
Overall,
it
kind
of
borrows
from
the
frame
vernacular
style,
it's
using
kind
of
lines
and
fenestration
and
simple
to
almost
no
ornamentation
kind
of
similar
to
a
frame
vernacular.
A
The
applicant
does
not
have
the
option
of
putting
the
garage,
or
at
least
it
would
be
very
tough
to
put
a
garage
behind
this
one
like
he
did
on
the
others,
because
the
lot
width
just
isn't
sufficient.
So
there
will
be
a
garage
fronting
the
safford
avenue,
there's
no
alley
access
or
anything,
and
so
there's
a
like
a
panel
garage
door
and
it's
set
back
a
little
bit.
I
think
from
like
the
porch,
a
gable
porch.
So
hopefully
it's
all
it's
a
little
bit
subordinated
to
the
rest
of
the
overall
design.
A
I
don't
think
there
was
anything
else
as
far
as
setback
lines,
the
setback
proposed
is
15
feet,
which
is
maximum
for
this
district
and
it
lines
up
pretty
well
with
the
other
properties,
especially
the
one
to
the
south
on
this
street.
A
And
the
rest
of
the
project
appears
to
to
comply
with
the
transect
code
standards,
the
setbacks,
some
parking,
driveway
widths,
landscaping,
those
types
of
things
and
the
public
was
noticed.
We
didn't
receive
any
responses
on
this,
so
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions,
but
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
project
and
again
the
board
may
wish
to
confirm
some
of
the
design
and
materials
with
the
applicant,
but
we're
recommending
approval
at
this
time.
Are
there
any
questions.
C
Pat
on
on
the
ruth
heights,
because
I
was
one
of
the
members
that
voted
on
the
other
one
and
ended
up
being
such
an
eyesore
in
the
city,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
still
not
going
to
be
the
effect
here
on
this
and
it
looked
like
it
was
okay
and
it's
not
going
to
out
shine
everybody
else's
property
in
the
area
it's
going
to
conform
to.
What
is
there.
C
It
was
one
that
I
voted
on
a
long
time
ago
and
a
lot
of
neighbors
complained
about.
It
was
a
neighborhood
not
in
a
mixed
use,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
what
your
drawing
showed.
Okay,
it
looks
like
it
conforms
to
all
the
other
roof
heights
and
it's
not
going
to
stand
higher.
A
A
This
one
will
stand
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
adjacent
ones.
So
what
you're?
Looking
at,
at
least
on
on
that
side
of
the
street
coca-lacus
portico,
the
top
of
that's
about
30
feet
up:
okay
from
google,
looking
at
google
earth
this
house,
that
is
in
the
picture
here,
that's
up
there
now
I'm
guessing
23
feet
or
so,
and
it
really
is
kind
of
a
vertical.
A
You
know
it.
It
doesn't
bother
me
as
much
because
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
vertical
invasive,
a
vertical
feeling
or
structure.
It's
not
you
know
and,
like
I
say
you
can
see
the
other
houses
from
safford
that
are
up
to
the
two-story
level.
There's
such
a
mix
of
of
items
here
and
we
can
ask
applicant.
I
don't
think
this
is
in
the
flood
zone
or
if
it
is,
I
don't
think
that's
really
the
issue.
A
It's
really
more
getting
a
reasonable
size
house
on
this
property
and
it's
an
infill
property
and-
and
we
think
you
know
with
with
the
in
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
just
being
kind
of
in
an
area
of
mixed,
not
only
buildings
but
uses
so
you've
got
offices.
It's
in
a
transect,
that's
called
residential
retail
office
and
it's
got
kind
of
a
mix
of
uses.
So
we.
C
G
A
Yeah
I
measured
the
on
google
earth
the
setback
for
the
house
to
the
south
and
that's
about
16
on
there.
So.
F
A
Now
there
is
a
small,
smaller
kind
of
accessory
house
behind
that
that's
pushed
way
back
and
it's
pretty
low.
It's
like,
I
think
it's
got
a
flat
roof
might
be
able
to
see
it
in
here
that
to
me,
wasn't
really
so
much
a
primary
structure.
A
This
little
thing
it's
like
a
cottage.
Basically,
the
main
house
is
to
the
east
of
that.
I
should
have
had
that
in
the
picture,
but
that's
about
15
feet.
So
are
the
houses
south
of
this
clip
people
roof
house?
Those
are
all
right
up
about
15
or
closer,
so
this
will
be
consistent
with
those
setbacks.
G
A
Well-
and
I
should
say
that
15
is
the
maximum
setback
for
this
transaction,
but
the
applicant
could
speak
to
that.
I
guess
yes,.
F
F
And
it's
we're
still
talking
about
the
same
thing
here
in
the
guideline
number
30..
F
It
talks
about
new
construction
matching
height
of
the
buildings
that
are
close
by
and
although
I
don't
really
have
a
problem
with
this,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
all
understand
that
the
height
of
the
new
building
is
proposed
to
be
35
or
so,
and
you
said
23
or
so
with
the
house
next
door.
So
that's
about
what
a
12
foot.
A
F
So
that
could
be
substantial,
I
mean
you
could
consider
that
a
whole
story,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
understood
that,
because
this
guideline
number
30
also
talks
about
having
the
lower
part
of
the
house
in
the
front
and
the
higher
part
in
the
back,
which
is
just
the
opposite
of
what
we've
got
here
again,
I'm
not
saying
I
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
bring
this
up
and
then
the
other
thing
was
about
the
setbacks.
A
No,
the
main
house
that
it's
behind
so,
like
I
say
it's
not
in
the
picture
just
to
the
right
of
that
in
the
picture
is
the
main
house
on
that
property.
A
F
F
Really,
but
I
see
it's
for
sale,
I
saw
a
for
sale
sign
on
it,
so
maybe
you're
gonna
buy
it
and
tear
it
down.
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
like
I
said
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
do
realize
in
a
use
like
this
with
so
many
different
houses,
you
have
to
sort
of
decide
and
give
a
little
here
and
take
a
little
there,
and-
and
I'm
certainly
willing
to
do
that
again.
I
just
wanted
to.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
C
G
F
H
G
Just
think
because
if
you
think
of
the
two
new
ones,
the
one
that's
adjacent
to
the
really
small
house,
that's
kind
of
the
look
we're
gonna
get
when
this
one
goes
in
and
again
it'll
be
beautiful
and
it's
nice,
it's
beautiful,
more,
better
nicer
than
what's
there.
So
just
trying
to
understand,
though,
that
we
are
going
to
dwarf
those
two
adjacent
homes.
G
H
B
C
I
C
I
H
E
Well,
that's
going
to
be
based
on
your
design
guidelines,
so
you
all
are
not
like
necessarily
approving
a
site
plan
or
setbacks,
or
anything
like
that.
It's
just
going
to
be
the
aesthetics
and
making
sure
that
it's
in
harmony
with
the
historic
district
for
your
guidelines,
so
that,
if
that's
something
that
you
think
is
going
to
substantially
change
the
look
of
the
house
being
in
the
historic
district,
then
maybe
that's
something
you
might
want
to
condition.
E
C
Would
be
able
to
judge
whether
or
not
it
would
affect
the
historic
look
of
it?
I
just
I
don't
know
how
I
would
do
that.
E
I
C
F
A
A
Not
unless
we
somehow
vary
it,
which,
if,
if
that
is
the
wish
of
this
board,
I
believe
the
applicant
could
request
a
variance
based
on
historic
design.
Too.
A
I
A
I
C
E
I
I
I
make
emotionally
except
the
application
of
21
12
for
approval.
C
C
C
Yes,
motion
is
approved
for
application
2112..
Please
make
sure
you
follow
the
process
and
get
your
permits
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
contact
pat
and
they'll
help
you
through
that
process.
A
A
Okay,
this
is
a
proposed
change
to
our
sign
code.
The
board
of
commissioners
reviewed
this
on
first
reading,
I
believe,
was
on
january
26th.
A
A
The
main
thing
is
really
is
to
incentivize
better
sign
design,
and
then
there
were
some
assigned
types
that
weren't
previously
allowed
that
are
clarified,
and
then
the
other
thing
it
does
is
create
a
mechanism
for
what
are
called
landmark
sign
designations.
A
It
provides
incentives
for
those
side
types
that
section
of
the
change
and,
of
course,
the
entire
sign
code
or
article
from
our
code
is,
is
in
your
packet.
But
if
you
look
at
the
numbered
page
32,
that's
where
those
changes
start.
So
we
would
be
inserting
illustrations
that
show
kind
of
the
designs
of
signs
that
that
the
city's
looking
for
the
main
incentives
would
be
to
encourage
this
type.
These
types
of
signs
would
be
taller
signs
and
larger
signs,
25
percent
increase
in
the
historic
district.
A
A
These
are
more
graphics
added
for
clarity
for
roof
signs
which
currently
are
prohibited
altogether.
This
would
allow
some
roof
signs
as
long
as
they
don't
project
above
the
roof
like
this
one
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
does
so.
This
would
allow
some
of
those
roof
signs
and
again
the
incentive
would
be
to
do
these
signs
would
be
an
increase
in
height
and
or
sign
area
of
25
percent.
A
On
that,
as
you
know,
all
signs
in
the
historic
district
come
before
you,
whether
the
regardless
of
the
status
of
the
building
or
the
property,
so
you
would
be
seeing
all
the
histone.
You
see
all
the
signs
in
the
historic
district.
So
that's
why
the
board
of
commissioners
wanted
you
to
take
a
look
at
this.
The
other
thing
that's
been
added.
Is
this
idea
of
a
landmark
sign?
We
really
don't
have
protection
right
now
in
our
sign
code,
from
a
non-conforming
sign
being
required
to
be
removed.
A
A
So
this
was
added
to
provide
a
way
to
designate
those
and
allow
them
to
continue
this
proposal.
Is
that
all
those
all
those
applications
for
landmark
signs
or
proposals
for
landmark
signs,
regardless
of
where
they
are
in
the
city,
would
come
before
you
first
for
a
recommendation
then
go
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
I
A
If
they're
proposed,
as
a
landmark,
sign
and
I'll,
give
you
an
example,
people
think
well
people,
I've
heard
people
say
that
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
centurion
or
what
it
is
on
the
hilas
restaurant.
That's
an
example
of
something
that
really
is
not
covered
in
our
sign
code.
That
would
be
an
example.
I.
F
C
And
the
board
is,
commissioners
are
the
ones
that
will
make
that
final
decision
to
accept
it?
Yes,.
A
Okay,
so
that's
the
changes
to
the
sign
code
that
are
proposed.
C
F
Specifically
about
the
the
creative
sign
allowance,
the
25
larger,
who
who's
going
to
decide
what
the
definition
of
creative
is
and
who's
going
to
be,
that
creative
who's
going
to
decide
if
it's
created
or
not.
A
A
Looking
on
page
numbered
page
36
on
under
section
189,
aesthetic
improvement,
positive,
visual
impact,
unique
design,
high
degree
of
thoughtfulness,
imagination,
inventiveness,
strong
graphic
character,
we're
going
to
have
to
review
that
and
make
a
determination
so
it'll,
be
you
know
if
this
is
adopted,
it'll
be
something
we'll
have
to
work
through,
see
how
it
works
and
go
from
there.
It's
it's
a
subjective.
F
F
I
Okay,
but
this
what
you're
saying
is
the
historical
review
board?
We
are
going
to
be
making
these
decisions
on
signs
outside
of
the
district
and
not
all
part.
A
A
You
know
you,
you
review
everything,
that's
in
the
historic
district,
so
that's
that'll
be
90
of
what
we
get,
but
if
anybody
ever
wants
to
designate
a
landmark
sign
anywhere
that
would
come
to
you,
I
you
know
I
can
think
of
maybe
three
examples
right
now
in
my
head
of
what
might
be
a
landmark
sign
in
town,
I
really
don't
yeah.
I
mean
a
good
example.
When
we
bulldozed
the
sun
bay,
we
took
that
sign.
It
had
a
had
a
big
arrow
and
neon
that
might
have
been
a
landmark
sign.
A
I
So
we
wouldn't
be
doing
any
essentially
do
science
unless
it
was
within
the
district.
G
Does
this
affect
old
signs
like
like
you
know,
there
are
some
like
businesses
that
have
hand
painted
or
hand
done
signs.
Would
they
be
affected
by
that?
Does
it
start
going
forward.
A
If
a
sign
is
I'm
not
sure
how
to
answer
your
question,
so
so
this
this,
if
this
is
adopted,
this
will
affect
everything
going
forward,
that
anybody
who
applies
to
replace
their
sign
or
put
a
new
sign
in,
and
these
are
basically
incentivized
signs,
so
they
don't
have
to
to
do
this.
C
I
Just
going
a
little
further
okay,
we
have
a
sign
that
we
say
is
a
monument
sign
and
it's
for
a
hotel
in
a
hotel
like
you're
talking
about
the
one
that
brought
spring
by
you,
they
tear
it
down.
I
A
Yeah,
well,
I
probably
shouldn't
use
that
example,
but
I
I
think
you
know
the
owner
the
owner
would
still
own
the
sign.
The
idea
with
designated
landmark
sign
is:
if
someone
wanted
to
to
keep
the
sign
and
repair
it
and
it's
non-conforming
and
they
have
to
repair,
say
more
than
50,
in
which
case
it
would
normally
cause
the
city
to
say:
hey,
you've
got
to
take
that
down
and
put
up
a
sign
that
conforms
with
code.
A
landmark
designation
would
protect
them
from
losing
this
design.
C
C
I
I
You
know,
because
we
ran
into
these
problems
with
buildings
in
the
in
the.
I
A
I
A
E
I
C
Anybody
else,
okay,
then,
let's
move
on
to
historical
district
design,
review
guidelines
manual.
Addition
of
the
following
to
let's
see
is
resolution
2010-02
and
resolution.
A
Yes,
so
I'm
very
pleased
to
tell
you-
and
maybe
you
you
watched
the
board
of
commissioners-
did
adopt
the
guidelines-
your
guidelines
document
on
february,
the
9th
they
were
very
happy
with
it.
They
were
very
complementary
of
of
this
board
and
the
guidelines.
So
congratulations
on
that
and
I
and
you
all
reviewed
that
resolution
before
so
you
know
that
the
mechanism
going
forward
is
if
we
want
to
make
any
changes
to
that
document.
A
This
board
can
make
any
changes
to
that
document
by
itself,
with
the
acceptance
exception
of
chapter
four,
the
actual
guidelines,
any
changes
you
make
to
that
chapter
go
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
Tonight,
I'm
asking
to
add
two
resolutions
to
the
appendix
appendices
in
the
document.
The
first
is
the
resolution
that
adopted
the
local,
your
local
district,
and
the
second
is
the
resolution
that
adopts
these
guidelines.
C
E
Well,
it
would
have
yeah,
I
mean
I
was
gonna
say
you
can
do
it
one
of
two
ways:
you
can
do
it
by
a
voice,
voter
consensus
or
you
can
do
it
by
a
roll
call
vote
with
a
properly
made
motion.
It
can
go
either
way.
Okay.
However,
the
chair
chooses
to
do
so.
C
Okay,
let's
do
it
by
roll
call
and
we'll
do
it
first
resolution
2010
o2
we'll
need
a
motion.
E
It
would
just
be
two
men
appendix.
C
I
C
C
B
B
E
C
A
B
E
E
Please
then
that's
fine.
The
motion
was
for
f.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
a
an
agenda
that
was
posted
to
the
city's
website.
Apparently
it's
incorrect.
So
the
motion
that
was
made
to
amend
appendix
f
to
include
those
two
ordinances
is
fine.
Okay,
that's
the
only
thing
that
needed
to
be
made.
Okay,
you
don't
need
to
adopt
those
individually.
Okay,.
F
Let's
okay,
but
that
wasn't
the
motion
that
was
made.
The
motion
that
was
made
was
just
for
the
first
one.
E
I
E
I
would
just
ask
who
made
the
initial
I
mean
it's
already
been
voted
on,
so
to
clarify
for
the
motion,
whoever
made
the
motion
to
amend
their
emotion,
just
to
revise
it
for
a
clerical
error,
just
as
stated
in
the
staff
report.
Okay,.
B
D
A
No-
and
that
was
my
fault-
I
will
try
to
be-
maybe
make
this
process
a
little
clearer
going
forward.
So.
C
It's
okay,
pat
I
I
kind
of
get
confused
sometimes,
and
I
think
I
contributed
to
that.
Does
the
board
have
any
comments.
F
A
E
So
for
and
I'll
let
whatever
she
would
like
to,
but
from
a
legal
perspective
you
weren't
asked
to
to
do
that.
You
can
make
a
condition
on
it.
That's
not
necessarily
something
that
was
a
condition
to
the
motion.
So
I
think
if
the
applicant
does
need
to
appear
before
the
variance
board,
then
he
can
certainly
say
I
mean
it's
going
to
show.
This
application
has
been
before
the
historic
preservation
board.
It's
not
needed
for
this
particular
thing,
and
then
staff
can
add
they.
You
know
they.
If
there
wasn't
consensus
to
that,
they
didn't
have
a.
E
Yeah
and
in
all
honesty
for
that
type
of
a
variance,
I'm
not
so
sure
how
much
weight
that
would
carry
anyways
because
that's
they
have
just
like
you
do
they
have
very
all
those
are.
There
are
very
specific
criteria
that
they
have
to
follow.
There's
not
a
lot
of
wiggle
room
like
with
your
guidelines,
so
it
can
be
made
note
of,
but
I
also
advise
that
board
and
I
would
like
to
tell
them
it
doesn't
really
make
a
difference.
So
I'm
sorry.
E
Yeah
and
keeping
in
mind
that
when
you
all
make
motions
you
can
make
a
motion
as
an
individual,
you
can
make
a
motion
and
contain
whatever
caveats
are
reasonable
to
the
application
and
then,
if
the
board
feels
a
certain
way,
you
can
add
those
comments
in
there.
Whether
or
not
you
know
they
are
going
to
carry
legal
weight
is
is
going
to
depend
on
the
situation
so.
C
Other
comments,
questions,
okay,
now
we're
going
to
go
to
the
board
comments,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
things
I
want
to
say
I
want
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all.
I
think
this
is
a
great
board
and
we
really
care
about
the
historic
district
and
we
ask-
and
I
just
hope
that
you
will
continue
to
ask
applicants
all
the
questions
you
need
to
know
and
look
at
the
guidelines
and
continue
on
throughout
the
process.
C
I
am
going
to
officially
resign
tonight
as
the
chair
because
I
am
selling
my
home
and
I'm
not
sure
yet
where
we're
moving,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
in
north
florida,
so
I
I
enjoyed
being
part
of
this
board.
It's
been
a
pleasure
and
I
I
really
value
each
one
of
your
opinions
and
I
just
encourage
you
not
to
be
afraid
to
ask
questions
to
have
pat
or
the
attorneys
correct
anything,
because
that's
how
we
learn.
C
The
destruction
of
the
properties
that
I've,
seen
and
others
have
seen
by
neglect
is
a
huge
thing
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
stopped
and
when
you
ask
an
applicant,
you
know
you've
owned
the
property
this
many
years.
What
have
you
done
in
that
many
years?
And
they
say
nothing
we're
waiting
to
see
if
we
could
get
funds.
That
is
a
clear,
clear
demolition
by
neglect.
C
I
mean
you've
owned
it
more
than
five
years
and
you
have
not
done
anything
to
do
it
and
then
later
in
the
discussion,
it
comes
up
and
there's
a
comment
that
when
they
originally
bought
it,
they
had
plans
for
something
else
to
be
there
and
they
just
let
this
waste
away.
So
now,
there's
nothing
left
to
save
and
it
has
to
be
torn
down
and
they
get
what
they
originally
wanted,
the
property
to
be.
C
So
I
encourage
you
to
ask
as
many
questions
as
you
can,
because
it's
up
to
this
board
to
do
something
about
this
kind
of
thing,
and
I
appreciate
it.
Everyone
here
has
a
different
point
of
view
on
things
and
some
of
us
have
more
expertise
on
things
than
others,
and
I
appreciate
you
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
will
do
a
formal
written
resignation.
If
that's
what
is
required,
I
will
do
that.
Pat,
do
you
need
one.
A
I
don't
think
so.
You're
on
the
record
you're
at
the
meeting.
C
So
it
will
be
effective
immediately
we're
supposed
to
close
the
end
of
march
and
we're
looking
for
a
property
in
north
florida,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
the
chance
that
maybe
I'll
move
before
your
next
meeting.
So
I
want.
I
don't
know
whether
at
this
point
you
need
to
consider
a
new
chair
here
tonight
and
vote
on
that
or
what
what
do
you
think
we
can.