►
From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Board June 20, 2016
Description
Description
B
C
D
D
F
A
D
E
D
A
C
A
D
G
C
C
G
We
have
a
quorum
and
so
we'll
begin.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
quasi-judicial
announcement
in
the
swearing
in
of
speakers.
If
you
do
plan
to
speak,
be
sure
that
when
the
time
is
called
it,
you
stand
up,
raise
your
right
hand
and
be
administered
the
oath.
Our
city
attorney
will
do
the
announcement.
This.
I
Is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
act
and
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
let
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi
judicial
hearing?
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
by
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
I
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
The
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance
and
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant
by
the
same
token,
of
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance.
Then
the
board
is
required
by
a
lot
of
fight
against
the
applicable.
I
G
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
our
the
only
application
we're
hearing
tonight,
its
application,
number
16
dash
34
to
site
plan
toward
inami
holdings
LLC,
and
it's
a
quest
to
approve
a
site
plan
for
a
phased
project
consisting
of
boat
slant,
barbie
storage
office
and
warehouse
uses
and
we'll
begin
with
the
staff
report.
Thank.
J
You
good
evening,
okay,
this
proper.
This
project
is
located
at
240
and
kaat
road.
It
consists
of
nine
point:
seven,
seven
acres
that
are
currently
zoned
industrial,
restrictive
with
the
future
land
use
of
il
or
that's
industrial
limited.
This
applicant
came
before
you
in
2013
and
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners
in
2013,
requesting
approval
for
this
same
project.
At
that
time
they
were
given
approval
for
the
first
five
phases
of
the
project.
J
Excuse
me
the
first
four
phases
of
the
project.
However,
they
were
unable
to
construct
there's
a
requirement
in
your
land
development
code
that
an
applicant
come
forward
unless
they
request
through
there
a
new
phasing
schedule,
that's
approved
by
this
board
and
the
boc
to
have
an
exemption
from
this
that
they
actually
get
their
first
building
permit,
which
usually
tends
to
be
the
site
work
for
the
site.
The
locations
of
you
know
dr
isles,
and
that
type
of
thing.
In
this
particular
case,
the
first
building
wasn't
going
to
go
in
the
first
phase.
J
Anyway,
it
wasn't
going
to
be
to
several
phases
later.
It
was
going
to
be
an
open
storage
to
concept
to
start
so
the
applicant
did
not
come
forward
and
they
were
not
aware
that
they
had
to
come
forward
and
get
that
building
permit
within
the
set
one
year
time
frame.
So
as
a
result,
they
came
to
me
last
year
and
said:
well,
we
never
got
an
approval
letter
and
that
may
very
well
be,
but
the
condition
still
stands
and
unfortunately
had
been
more
than
the
one
year
time
frame.
J
Our
COO
does
allow
for
a
six-month
extension
for
them
to
come
back
to
the
process
and
ask
this
board
and
the
board
Commissioners
for
six-month
extension,
but
their
site
plan
had
completely
expired,
so
they
have
to
request
that
within
30
days
before
the
expiration
date,
they
could
not
do
at
so.
At
that
point,
I
basically
said
okay.
Well,
we
have
to
go
back
through
the
process.
J
Is
there
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made
that
type
of
thing,
and
they
indicated
that
the
one
change
that
they
wanted
to
ask
for
was
really
the
phasing
schedule
they
still
are
on
board,
with
the
fact
that
they
recognize
they
must
get
that
first
building
permit
within
a
one
year
time
frame.
Now
that
they're
aware
of
that
they're
going
to
move
forward,
however,
they've
asked
for
rather
than
having
each
fee
is
approved
per
year,
they've
asked
for
an
overall
five-year
phasing
schedule
that
allows
them
to
go
out
so
any
one
phase.
J
If
it's
not
finished
in
each
year,
they
would
have
up
to
that
five-year
window.
If
there's
any
changes
or
modifications
during
that
period,
they
would
still
have
to
come
back
through
this
board
and
through
boc
for
approval
for
any
changes,
but
it
would
allow
for
them
to
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
between
the
phases.
J
Certainly,
if
you
look
at
their
site
plan,
their
drainage,
that's
shown
on
the
plan,
is
a
phase
drainage
plan
and
they
had
talked
down
their
engineers,
not
here
today,
but
we
talked
with
their
engineer
to
find
out.
You
know
what
was
your
intention
with
the
phase
drainage
and
he
said
well
really
why
I
want
the
flexibility
is
if
they
decide
to
advance
a
building.
J
I
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
in
place,
the
fire
flows
on
any
of
the
utilities
for
that
building
and
the
drainage
are
in
place
prior
to
that
that
building
going
in
so
as
a
result,
we
would
make
sure
he
would
do
that
anyway
through
the
building
permit
process,
but
as
a
result
of
that,
he
asked
for
that
flexibility.
So
that's
really
the
change
that
has
gone
on
in
this
they
did
submit
for
their
Swift
web
permit.
J
They
were
issued
a
swift
mud,
permit
the
particular
phases
and
they
have
an
environmental
analysis.
That's
part
of
your
packet
that
environmental
analysis
for
phase
5
through
6,
which
is
the
back
portion
of
the
property
that
is
where
the
endangered
species
are.
They
have
some
gopher
tortoises
in
that
area.
At
the
time
that
they
come
back
through
the
process,
they
will
need
to
do
an
updated
analysis.
J
We
are
actually
asking
you
and
I'll
go
over
the
conditions
that
we're
going
to
ask
for,
but
we're
asking
for
them
to
update
that
analysis,
because
it
has
a
good
two
years
since
I'd
are
three
years
since
that
analysis
was
evaluated.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
gopher
tortoises
haven't
moved
anywhere
else
on
the
site
where
they
want
current,
where
they
weren't
previously,
but
other
than
that
there
has
not
been
substantial
changes
to
this
property
with
the
exception
of
that
phasing,
so
we
just
wanted
to
get
that
out
there.
J
So
you
see
you're
clearly
understand
where
we're
at
the
staff
report
you
have
before.
You
is
very
very
similar
to
the
staff
report
that
was
proposed
by
Rodney
Chapman
when
he
was
here
in
support
of
this
project,
with
the
exception
of
the
phasing
schedule
is
slightly
different
and
with
that
we
had
a
TRC
meeting
at
that
TRC
meeting.
What
we
really
discussed
was
the
changes
if
they
were
going
to
make
changes
to
the
project.
J
They
have
not
changed
at
this
point,
the
access
is
going
to
be
limited
to
to
vehicular
access
points
along
in
clock
road.
The
parking
for
the
site
plan
exceeds
the
requirement
for
one
space
for
1500
square
feet
of
gross
poor
area
required
for
off-street
parking.
The
landscaping
in
and
screening
plan
is
consistent.
We
will
ask
for
and
I
will,
there's
we're
going
to
have
to
amend
the
conditions
here
slightly.
J
We
will
ask
for
an
updated
tree
survey
so
that
we
can
compare
any
growth
that
has
happened
or
any
changes
that
are
happened
on
site
or
two
conditions
of
trees,
or
that
type
of
thing
at
the
time
of
the
building
permit.
So
we'll
include
that,
in
the
conditions
that
we're
going
to
require
sidewalks
will
be
constructed
along
the
roadway
are
no
current
right-of-way
issues,
there's
no
fire
protection
in
issues.
We've
already
talked
about
the
environmental
assessment
that
we're
going
to
want
an
updated
environmental
assessment.
J
Based
on
this,
the
level
of
service
standards
have
not
changed
and
they
are
consistent
with
the
existing
level
of
services
that's
available
in
your
comprehensive
plan.
We
have
no
objections
in
providing
a
certificate
of
a
concurrency
determination
for
this
particular
project
and
with
that
staff
is
recommending.
Approval
of
the
site
plan
for
fees
is
1
through
4,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
it'll
be
a
small
change
on
3
that
I'll
read
into
the
record
here.
The
developer
is
responsible
for
acquiring
all
other
jurisdictional
permits
and
meeting
the
minimum
criteria
of
the
land
development
code.
J
The
site
plan
shall
expire
within
the
one
year
of
the
effective
date
unless
an
application
has
been
filed
with
for
a
building
permit
prior
to
the
site,
plan,
approval
and
updated
environmental
assessment
and
tree
assessment
must
be
submitted
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Department.
Fire
lines
required
for
the
proposed
buildings
and
sewage
lift
station
with
penances
and
services
for
the
RV
wash
down
area
shall
be
installed
as
part
of
the
phase.
2
construction,
utility
service
lines
and
fire
lines
for
buildings,
3
and
4
shall
be
installed
as
part
of
phase
3.
J
At
that
time,
the
fire
line
installed
in
phase
2
will
be
tied
into
the
new
fire
line,
creating
a
loop
system.
The
loop
system
is
what
is
required
under
the
Florida
fire
code
city
staff
reserves
the
right
to
require
a
new
site
plan.
If
there
are
major
changes
to
code
into
the
codes
and
or
regulations
architecture,
the
architecture
of
the
buildings
must
be
substantially
similar
to
the
rendering
submitted
by
the
applicant.
The
applicant
must
demonstrate
that
lighting
is
unobtrusive
to
adjacent
property
owners
or
vehicles
on
an
clot
road
in
the
site.
J
E
E
J
Would
need
to
be
shielded
and
we
can
change
the
the
language
here
if
you
want
to
get
a
little
bit
more
specific
than
the
type
of
obstruction
that
late
might
you
know
penetrate
on,
you
could
get
into
talking
about
they're
required
to
provide
shielded,
light
fixtures,
or
something
like
that.
If
you
want
to
do
that,
this
is
leaving
that
at
that
open
to
the
applicant
to
provide
and
propose
a
plan
for
proving
that
any
light
that
is
spilling
off
of
that
property
is,
in
fact
unobtrusive.
Two
adjacent
property
owners
and
to
traffic
along
the
roadway.
J
J
Because
it's
been
it's
been
a
number
of
years
and,
like
any
species,
turtles
tend
to
move
as
a
sport
as
well
aware
so
being
that
gopher
tortoises
have
been
spotted
on
the
rear
portion
of
the
property.
Even
though
they're
not
asking
for
approval
at
this
time,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they
do
an
updated
study
to
it
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
burrows
that
have
moved
to
a
different
part
of
the
property
and,
while
I
appreciate
the
applicant,
these
can
be
kind
of
expensive.
J
J
E
J
I
agree
that
we
do
have
them
there's
kind
of
a
redundancy,
because
we
do
tell
them
they
have
to
meet
the
land
development
code,
but
being
that
your
staff
has
been
such
a
revolving
door
here.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
these
are
tight.
These
requirements
that
you
have
on
applications
that
the
applicants
are
things
so
it's
clear
when
new.
If
new
staff
comes
in
here,
this
is
what
we
required.
J
We've
had
some
real
issues
with
not
having
really
clarified
conditions
in
the
past
as
a
result,
and
then
we
have
new
staff
come
in
and
they
don't
necessarily
know
the
same
thing
that
the
previous
staff
does
it's
very
difficult,
sometimes
to
get
all
of
the
background
for
some
of
these
projects
and
as
a
result,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
tight
approval.
Is
that
one
we
can
defend,
but
also
that
are
very
explicit.
J
So
the
applicant
knows
that
their
responsibilities
are
I,
wanted
to
make
that
that
the
applicant
I
want
to
put
them
on
notice,
because
they've
already
had
an
issue
with
this
project,
not
moving
forward.
We
want
to
do
everything
in
our
power
to
make
it
so
that
they
know
what
they
have
to
do
to
move
forward
and
be
successful
with
the
development
of
this
project.
B
This
condition
3,
where
it
says
prior
to
site,
plan
approval,
or
are
we
not
or
maybe
I'm
a
little
confused?
Are
we
not
approving
the
first
phases
of
the
site
plan
tonight,
so
are
we
requiring
them
to
submit
that
before
the
approval
we
would
potentially
give
tonight
is
finalized,
or
is
this
talking
about
prior
to
site
plan
approval
for
the
other
portion?
It.
J
J
B
D
A
J
J
A
little
bit
more
distance
than
what
your
Yorker
only
allows
for
limited
buffering
requirements
that
leaves
the
distancing
criteria.
They
have
to
be
planted,
obviously
with
plantings,
but
the
distance
between
the
actual
project
or
the
back
of
a
building,
and
that
property
line
is
only
about
eight
feet
in
your
code.
Currently.
So,
as
a
result,
they're
also
going
to
have
drainage
retention
areas
on
that
side,
so
you'll
have
a
little
bit
more
space
and
again
those
three
intention
areas
have
to
be
planted
as
well
as
the
buffer,
and
they.
J
A
Other
question
is
and
I've
read
through
this,
but
explain
to
me:
they're
not
right
on
the
water.
So
if
people
have
their
boat
in
storage-
and
they
call
up
and
say,
I
want
my
boat
taken
out
of
storage
because
I
want
to
come
and
get
it.
Where
are
they
going
to
take
these
boats
to
get
them
into
the
water
I,
get
them
out
of
the
water
to
take
them
to
the
story?
It's
not.
J
J
J
I
J
K
Have
a
couple
questions
also
I
noticed
that
the
foliage
only
goes
along,
that
I
believe
the
east
side
of
the
property,
not
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
to
where
there's
residential
houses
I
think
there's
some
trees
that
are
left
in
some
live
oaks
stuff
for
existing
foliage
blockage,
and
then
it
doesn't
look
like
it
runs
down
the
whole
east
side
of
the
property
for
the
additional
phases.
I
think
it
stops
about
three-quarters.
The
way
through
so
I
just
wondering
what
our
code
really
says
about
that.
K
East
side
is
where
the
it
showed
that
the
wax
myrtles
are
going
in,
but
the
north
side,
and
it
doesn't
go
all
the
way
on
the
east
side.
I
think
there's
a
50-foot
buffer
at
that
point,
but
the
north
side,
where
there's
some
residential
properties,
there
also
I,
think
it
shows
a
20
foot
buffer,
but
it
doesn't
really
say
that
doesn't
show
there's
any
additional
plantings
of,
like
shrubs,
I,
think
there's
just
existing
trees
that
are
there
they're.
J
Required
to
me,
it
doesn't
matter
what
size
buffer
they
provide
like.
You
have
a
minimum
that
you
have
to
provide.
Obviously
they
have
to
provide
what
they
show
on
the
plans,
but
they
will
have
to
put
plantings
in
where
there
are
not
plantings
improve
to
us
that
if
there
are
gaps
and
that
that
they
are
filling
the
plantings,
they
don't,
if
they're
using
native
vegetation,
that's
existing
there
as
long
as
it
provides
an
eighty
percent
opacity,
then
that's
what
your
code
requires
an
eighty
percent
opacity,
nice.
J
So
eighty
percent
is
not
a
hundred
percent,
but
its
twenty
percent
less
than
a
hundred
percent.
So
it's
meant
to
be
a
full
buffer
and
full
growth
within
that
within
that
six-month
window
six-month
three-year
window.
A
lot
of
it
depends
on
the
plants
that
you
choose.
Some
things
are
faster
growing
here
in
Florida
they
will
have
to
do
irrigation.
J
Some
things
are:
are
slower
growing,
so
if
you
choose
some
of
those
faster
growing
plants,
they'll
get
up
to
in
six
months
versus
some
of
the
slower
plants
will
be
up
within
a
year
now,
if
you're
using
native
species
and
if
you're,
using
existing
vegetation,
you
fill
those
gaps
that
you
need,
that
you
have
between
you
and
that
type
of
thing.
But
if
you've
got
20
foot
versus
8-foot,
you
require
an
eight-foot-wide
buffer.
A
J
He
has
not
talked
to
us
specifically
about
flood
zones
and
those
type
of
the
type
of
issues
those
become
an
issue
when
he
actually
gets
to
constructing
buildings,
and
at
that
time
the
building
department
will
require
him
to
meet
the
flood
zone.
Standards
that
are
in
are
in
effect
at
that
time,
which
why
that
matters
is
our
planning.
Our
building
department
is
ever-changing
and
they're
trying
to
reduce
our
overall
exposure
as
a
community.
As
a
result,
they
have
instilled
different.
J
They
won't
be
instilling
different
regulations
over
time
to
try
to
drive
down
those
costs
in
our
overall
flood
insurance
rating
for
the
entire
community
as
they
do
it.
Those
changes
will
be
made,
so
we
don't
want
to
lock
them
in
at
this
particular
time
to
a
flood
standard
that
two
years
three
years
from
now
is
slightly
different.
We
want
them
when
they
come
in
to
permit
to
be
consistent
with
the
regulations
of
the
day
very
good.
A
Well,
knowing
the
gentleman
of
course
I
haven't,
talked
to
him
about
this,
but
I
know
of
his
business.
Other
business
dealings
he's
very
astute
and
very
on
top
of
everything
that
he
does
and
I
didn't
read
too
much
about
flooding.
That's
why
I
asked
and
I
know
that
he'll
go
extra
step
to
make
sure
it's
going
to
be
what
it's
supposed
to
be
yeah.
J
If
it
needs
to
be
elevated
right
now,
he'll
elevate
it
up
to
the
flood.
The
flood
elevation
plus
one
board,
one
foot,
a
free
board
was
they
go
above
one
foot
above,
but
that
could
change
over
time.
We
may
decide
as
a
community
one
to
two
or
three
foot
a
free
board.
If
that
changes,
we
want
to
be
able
to
hold
this
applicant
to
that
and
we
actually
have
a
condition.
That
would
let
us
do
that
anyway,
as
a
community.
We
put
a
condition
in
here
that
says
at
any
time.
A
G
J
We
don't
have
ordinances,
basically,
what
I
have
done.
I
gave
you
basically
the
base
that
you
had
previously
approved
with
a
few
changes
based
on
the
things
that
have
changed,
that
I
really
needed
to
address
here
or
clarify.
This
is
something
that
you've
seen
on
some
of
the
other
ones.
That
I've
had
is
asked
for
shielded
lighting
that
has
directed
internal
to
the
site
and
if
you
would
like
to
do
something
like
that,
we
can
certainly
change
this
condition.
J
I'm
not
holding
to
this
condition
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
applicant
make
sure
that
he's
all
right
with
that
without
without
change.
But
if
you
want
something
like
that
at
this
point,
we
do
not
have
a
requirement
for
lighting
plans
and
that
type
of
thing
they
need
to
prove
it
by
showing
me
that
the
fixtures
work
I,
look
at
the
general
fixture,
I
determined
the
foot
candles
and
that
type
of
thing
what
it
throws
where
it's
located,
that
type
of
stuff
and
I
hold
them
to
these
conditions.
J
G
J
G
J
E
J
J
J
G
J
G
J
J
To
that
effect
must
provide
shielded
lighting,
limiting
upward
light
in
directing
lighting
in
terms
of
project.
So
this
is
what
I've
got
make
sure
that
this
is
everyone's
okay
with
this,
the
applicant
must
provide
shielded
lighting,
limited
limit
upward
light
upward
light
and
directly,
in
turn,
until
the
internal
to
the
project.
Okay,.
J
G
J
E
F
J
G
K
I'm
sorry
I
just
wanted
a
couple
clarifications,
and
so
the
shrubbery
only
goes
along
the
east
side,
really
not
all
the
way
down.
So
I,
don't
know
it
when
we
address
that,
but
it's
not
in
the
back
part
of
the
property,
it's
not
in
the
west
side,
but
I'm,
not
sure,
there's
really
there's
no
residential
property
over
there
I'm
not
really
sure
what
the
code
says
for
undeveloped
land
or
whether
that
could
be
in
the
future,
but
there's
no
buffer
in
the
front
of
the
building.
Also,
it's
just
a
fence
and
grass.
J
They
will
have
to
provide
the
way
they
will
have
to
provide
buffering
outside
of
any
trees
that
they
already
have
their.
They
will
have
to
provide
buffering.
That
is
consistent
with
the
perimeter
buffering
sections.
So
if
the
plantings
are
specifically
shown
at
this
particular
time
when
they
come
in
with
their
full
plans,
they
will
need
to
show
us
that
isn't.
J
They
will
be
a
little
bit
more
than
when
the
building
permit
plans
come
in
there
a
little
bit
more
clear
on
exactly
how
the
plantings
are
laid
out
and
specific
to
what
plantings.
So,
if
you
want
to
provide
them
here,
we
can
either
do
we
can
either
tell
the
applicant.
He
needs
to
come
back
with
updated
landscaping
plan
or
we
can
provide
additional
conditions.
The.
B
Related
comment,
then
tues
that
that
does
the
landscape
plan
adequately
addressed
the
tree
replacement
requirements
that
goes
was
a
substantial
number
of
trees
and
pretty
good
size
being
removed.
Does
that
plan
address
that
or
we
relying
on
the
the
building
permit
set
to
make
sure
that
those
replacements
are
called
workers
I'm
just
a
little
bit
concerned
that
by
leaving
it
as
loose
as
it
could
be
at
this
point
that
we
might
be
giving
the
idea
that
we're
approving
something?
That's
that's
not
really
fully
approved.
If
we
don't
make
that
very
clear,
I
guess
well,.
J
We
are
requiring
them
to
provide
us
an
updated
tree
assessment
so
that
we
can
evaluate
any
changes
to
the
trees.
If
it's
the
board's
desire
to
have
them
do
that
now
and
delay
this
project
so
that
they
can
do
that.
We're.
Certainly
we
certainly
can
do
that,
but
we
have
provided
a
condition
for
them
to
provide
that
information,
I'm,
confident
that
the
applicant
will
provide
that
information
at
the
time
of
building
permit
and
they
will
allow
us
the
time
to
send
out
the
the
tree
the
certified
arborists.
J
So
if
there
is
any
questions
on,
you
know
the
old
plan
versus
the
new
plan
in
the
sizing
of
those
trees
to
ensure
that
the
if
there
has
been
any
tree
growth,
any
significant
tree
growth,
its
accounted
for,
but
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
meet
the
mitigation
requirements
in
the
code
which
are
actually
more
substantial
than
when
he
was
approved.
Because
you
updated
your
code
in
2015.
He
is
now
bound
by
your
2015
code,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
we're
asking
for
that
updated
assessment.
J
So
if
it's
the
purview
of
the
board
that
you
would
like
to
delay
the
project
to
have
them
provide
that
analysis,
we
can
certainly
do
that,
but
at
this
time
their
application
is
complete,
at
least
by
staffs
analysis.
If
you
want
to
provide
additional
requirements
for
them
to
provide
buffering
and
or
planting
schedules
or
and/or
that
information,
we
certainly
can
ask
the
applicant
to
do
that.
That's
up
to
this
board
I
think.
G
J
K
K
Got
a
question
too:
there
is
a
automatic
gate
in
the
Ryan.
That's
a
20
foot
setback
off
the
road.
It
shows
my
my
kind
of
thought
process.
I,
don't
know
if
you've
ever
driven
down
the
road
before,
but
it's
a
people
tend
to
speed
on
the
road
tremendously
and
if
you
have
a
boat,
you're
pulling
a
boat
might
be
20
feet
or
so
a
truck
sneller
I,
don't
know
16
feet,
so
we're
looking
at
36
feet.
K
So
you
have
a
tail
end
of
the
boat
out
into
the
road,
while
someone's
waiting
for
an
automatic
fence
to
open,
while
people
speed
also
down
that
road
and
it
creates
a
blind.
Why
creates
a
blind
opportunity
for
someone
to
go
around
the
boat
while
another
vehicles
coming
down
the
road?
So
do
we
have
anything
that
requires
a
certain
set
back
off
roads
with
gated
automatic
gates
or
something
along
those
lines?
Is
that
that.
J
Gay
is
for
this
particular
type
of
development.
No,
that's
something
that
we
require
when
we
look
at
subdivision,
it's
something
that
it's
not
specific
to
this
type
of
standard.
It's
not
a
bad
suggestion,
in
this
case
a
d-cell
lane,
and
that
type
of
thing
is
not
warranted
based
on
the
type
of
traffic
that's
expected
for
the
project.
Unfortunately,
that
would
be
ideal
if
there
was
enough
right
away
is
to
provide
that
D
selling,
so
folks
are
off
off
the
actual
right
Road.
J
A
K
G
J
K
D
G
G
L
All
of
that
now
that's
why
I
was
asking
if
you've
been
asked
the
questions
again.
I
don't
remember
at
all,
but
the
only
things
that
I
were
the
things
that
I
was
hearing
is
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
y'all
are
asking
about
her
questioning.
It
sounded
to
me,
like
they
weren't
part
of
the
current
ordinances
or
codes
or
whatever
we're
calling
them
and
if
they
aren't,
how
can
we
be
held
to
a
different
standard?
L
That's
all
I'm
saying
as
far
as
that's
concerned
the
gentleman
to
mention
about
the
access,
the
setback,
the
setbacks,
20
feet
from
the
property
line.
Is
that
correct?
So
that's
at
least
another
10
feet
from
the
edge
of
the
roadway,
because
there's
the
ditches
out
front,
there's
grass
ditch
and
then
more
grass
to
the
property
line.
So
there's
there's
a
bit
of
a
buffer
in
there
already.
L
If
you
drive
down
the
road
there,
you'll
probably
notice
it
there's
an
open,
ditch
and
grass
on
both
sides
of
the
ditch
our
current
property
lines,
probably
about
I'd,
say
six
feet
or
more
back
from
the
inner
edge
of
the
ditch
on
the
north
side
of
an
khlo
road.
So
we've
got
about
I
want
to
guess.
You
probably
got
about
30
feet
to
the
gate.
Now,
roughly
now,
I
have
measured
it.
So
you've
got
a
bit
of
a
buffer
there
to
remove
that
gate.
L
D
J
The
north
one
slightly
in
but
you're,
going
to
lose
parking
if
they
move
the
the
southern
or
the
lower
location.
They'd
actually
end
up,
probably
two
or
three
parking
spaces
for
when
they
get
into
their
final,
build
out
for
for
this
building
d.
So
they'd
have
to
accommodate
to
do
that.
They'd
have
to
accommodate
the
additional
parking
elsewhere
on
the
site
that
they're
going
to
lose
by
adding
that
driveway
that
gate
there,
because
you
can't
have
the
parking
outside
of
the
gate
that
that
doesn't
help
that.
L
One
of
the
other
things
I
was
going
to
ask
about,
and
this
newly
folks
was
there
again,
this
lighting
situation,
I
think,
like
one
of
the
gentleman
said
it
came
up
before,
and
they
said
that
you
know
we
can't
have
any
light.
I
know
which,
like
you're,
talking
about
an
anklet
road
I,
go
down
to
it
all
the
time
and
I
see
it.
There
was
said
that
there
would
not
be.
We
couldn't
have
me
like
it's
going
to
affect
the
traffic
adversely
affect
traffic,
which.
J
L
J
J
J
Directed
into
the
roadway
now
yeah,
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
have
lighting
at
your
entrance
because
obviously
I
want
it
to
be
safe
and
people
aren't
punching
in
code.
So
we
want
that
to
be
safe,
but
we
don't
want
it
being
obtrusive
into
the
roadway
where
it's
basically
lit
up
like
there's
quite.
L
A
bit
of
lighting
out
there
now
you
went
out
there
at
night.
We
have
quite
a
few
lights
out
there
as
we
have
a
lot
of
equipment
park
there
right
now
and
we've
had
some
instances
of
people.
You
know
coming
in
the
back,
trying
to
steal
things
that
they
too
heavy
to
carry
off,
so
they
left
them
in
the
woods.
But
so
there's
quite
a
bit
of
light
now,
and
it's
just
like
typical,
like
what
a
cobra
headlights
out,
they
call
them.
You
know
the
streetlights
and
I,
don't
think
you'll
find
any
of
those.
L
J
E
Can
I
say
typically
in
the
in
the
past,
most
industrial
lighting
has
been
open,
like
most
street
lights
have
been
open
on
the
top,
as
well
as
all
the
way
around,
and
that's
I
think
there
was
just
a
steady
not
too
long
ago
that
eighty-five
percent
of
our
stars
have
disappeared
because
of
all
the
lights
that
shines
up
and
we
lose
that.
So
you
know
I
think
we
have
to
start
someplace
er.
E
L
J
Nick,
the
other
question
that
they
really
the
board
has
got
some
concerns.
As
about
your
buffers
and
whether
they're
going
to
be
whether
they'll
be
planted,
I
mean
I'm
going
to
have
to
hold
you
to
the
planting
schedules
in
minimum
in
the
in
the
land
development
code
for
the
adjacent
for
the
adjacent
portions
of.
J
J
Like
with
the
gopher
tortoise
issue,
changes
so,
and
we
knew
that
that
was
something
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
update
going
through
the
process,
and
it's
been
two
years.
It's
actually
been
three
years
since
a
lot
of
the
work
has
been
done
for
this,
but
he
is
correct
that
the
landscaping
requirements
for
landscaping
along
the
front
perimeter
have
not
changed
in
the
code
in
the
last
three
years
that
since
he
came
before
the
sports,
there's.
K
J
Is
possible
that
it
was
overlooked
at
the
last
time,
but
it's
something
that
we
will.
We
can
draw
attention
to.
I
mean
it's
completely
up
to
this
board.
If
you
want
to
delay
the
project
and
ask
for
an
updated
I
update
the
landscaping
plan,
that's
completely
at
the
sports
discretion.
I
would
say:
if
you're
going
to
do
that,
then
you
might
as
well
ask
for
the
tree
survey
and
evaluate
the
trees.
At
the
same
time
they
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand
and
glove,
but
that's
something
that
that's
up
to
this
board,
but.
J
Tree
survey
would
normally
come
at
the
sign,
but
this
is
a
unique
project
in
that
it's
been
previously
approved
and
we
were
pretty
confident
with
the
requirements
in
the
that
we've
put
in
for
additional
for
additional
conditions
that
will
get
what
we
need
from
them
and
we
can
approve
that
at
the
time
a
building
permit,
which
is
when
we
set
their
mitigation
amounts
and
that
type
of
thing
I
mean.
As
you're
aware.
The
applicant
has
some
time
and
some
flexibility
in
our
code
to
determine
how
they're
going
to
mitigate.
J
They
have
three
different
options
on
mitigation
and
that's
not
really
determined
until
you
get
to
the
actual
physical
building
permit.
It
gives
them
that
time
to
have
that
didn't
have
that
discussion
to
determine
if
they
want
to
pay
a
fee
and
LU
if
they
want
to
mitigate
on
site
if
they
want
to
mitigate
off
site
if
they
have
additional
property
elsewhere
in
the
city.
Well,.
D
L
L
J
D
J
The
later
phases
of
the
project
at
this
at
this
point,
he'll
have
to
actually
come
back
and
provide
any
additional
buffering.
That's
required!
That's
also
the
area
where
the
gopher
tortoise
is
he's
not
wrong,
where
the
gopher
tortoises
will
have
to
be
relocated
from
or
two
or
whatever.
However,
the
state
requires
him
to
do
what
he's
got
to
do
for
the
gopher
tortoises.
L
Property
side,
the
West
line
is,
as
your
I'm
sure
all
aware
is
just
forced.
I
mean
it's
just
woods,
there's
nothing!
There,
though
I
don't
know,
and
I
think
from
what
Heather
said.
It's
my
understanding
to
where
it
actually
comes
time
for
permitting
we
have
to
meet
the
code.
You
know
if
it
says
you
have
to
have
so
many
trees.
You
take
out
this.
You
got
to
put
in
that.
If
we
don't
do
that,
then
we
don't
get
our
permit
right,
correct.
That's.
J
Kind
of
with
the
drainage
retention
areas
that
are
here
because
the
drainage
attention
areas
are
slit
up
right
against
the
line.
They
wouldn't
be
required
to
do
full
buffering
along
that.
Basically,
what
it
says
for
the
drainage
retention
Ares
is
twenty
percent
plantings
for
the
twenty
twenty
percent
plantings
along
that
entire,
that
entire
area.
So,
even
though,
technically
you
would
need
a
buffer
along
the
property
line,
because
you
have
the
drainage
attention
areas,
they're
handled
a
little
bit
differently,
and
so
the
requirements
for
how
dense
the
plantings
have
to
be
are
different
for
them.
J
Because
of
the
way
the
drainage
has
to
function
like
the
way
the
slopes.
And
that
type
thing
are.
You
can
only
do
so
much
planting
on
the
top
slope
before
it
becomes
a
burden
to
the
overall
on
the
overall
function
of
the
pond.
So
I
mean
that,
and
that's
also
that
the
other
thing
is
because
you
have
that
open
retention,
air
you're,
actually
providing
a
wider
buffer
area
than
what's
required
with
that
8-foot
perimeter
buffering
because
the
bonded
at
least
50
foot
wide
in
the
in
the
widest
spots,
whatever.
L
It's
worth
to
also
on
that
gate
comment.
There
was
a
boat
storage
place
there
before,
but
it
was
just
you
know,
are
no
feet.
Obviously
it
was
just
an
open
field
and
they
stored
a
lot
of
boats
in
there
and
I.
Don't
think
there
was
ever
an
issue
there,
but
neither
weren't
I
can't
say
about
RVs
coming
in
and
out,
but
there
again,
with
an
electric
gate,
I
mean
the
gates
open
before
you
get.
L
K
Got
a
question:
there's
a
couple
things
I'm
somewhat
concerned
about
is
that
you
have
looks
like
a
crushed
concrete
down
the
middle
between
on
both
sides
of
building
a
is
B
and
C,
and
then
that
goes
in
the
grass
and
then
it
looks
like
it
goes
into.
The
parking
pad
is
the
covered
boat
and
RV
storage
space
is
what
does
that
material
going
to
be
under
the
covered
area?
I'm.
K
L
K
L
K
L
K
J
I
actually
think
that
that
might
be
grass
under
the
buildings
and
I'll
tell
you
the
reason
why?
Because
it's
grass
all
adjacent
to
once
you
come
off
the
crush
the
crushed,
concrete
drive.
It
looks
like
it's
a
grass
area
there
and
it
would
make
more
sense.
Obviously,
if
your
grass,
if
you're
going
from
the
concrete
to
the
other
crushed
concrete
to
the
grass,
that
you
would
maintain
that
grass
surface
underneath
the
building.
That's.
K
L
L
Whatever
it's
worth
right
now,
I
drive
tractor
trailers
out
there
on
that
grass
I
mean
big
heavy
equipment
and
I.
Don't
have
never
been
stuck
once
you
know,
but
and
that's
without
doing
anything
you
kind
of
developing
to
it.
That's
just
the
native
grasses
going
out
there.
In
the
end,
the
field
in
the
front
portion,
the
back
portion,
as
you
know,
is
all
woods,
but.
A
I
A
L
A
L
K
G
G
L
L
G
C
G
K
J
That's
correct
for
phase
1
through
4
phase,
Phi
of
phase
5,
6
and
7,
which
is
the
back
part
of
that
property.
They
won't
be
required
to
do
anything
to
it,
actually
will
tell
them.
You
can't
do
it
outside
their
their
project
limits,
so
they
will
be
held
to
on
those
first
phases.
Now,
if
we
change
our
requirements
again,
they
will
have
to
meet
them
for
the
later
phases,
and
that
goes
for
the
project
as
a
whole.
J
If
phase
one
comes
in
and
we
do
an
amendment,
a
drastic
amendment
that
changes
anything
in
the
code
that
applies
to
this,
they
will
have
to
meet
those
changes.
This
does
not
give
them
the
site
plan.
Approval
does
not
give
them
a
one-way
ticket
out
of
the
land
development
code,
just
because
they've
met
majority
of
the
regulations
at
this
time.
If
they
change
that's,
why
we
put
that
condition
that
first
condition
that
they
have
to
get
all
jurisdictional
permits
and
meet
all
the
land
development
code
required.
A
A
Block,
instead
of
broken,
concrete
and
stuff
like
that,
could
we
make
it
to
where
that's
what
they
would
have
to
use
if
they
didn't
want
to
put
down,
seemed
it
the
pads
or
a
mass
fault
road
to
go
in
and
out
I,
don't
know
if
other
communities
do
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
neater
looking
and
easier
to
take
era.
It.
J
If
you,
what
I
think
what
you
got,
what
I
need
is
trying
to
get
to
is.
Can
we
change
the
code
to
allow
to
require
those
things?
Now
you
can
recommend
to
the
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
that
they
look
at
the
alternative
surface
section
that
they
already
allow
because
they
allow
alternative
services,
broken
gravel
or
broken
concrete's.
One
of
those
alternative-
shell
is
certainly
one
of
those
alternative
service.
Mulch
is
one
of
those
alternative
services.
There's
a
there's,
a
whole
slew
of
different
ones
that
you
can
you
can
look
at.
A
A
E
K
A
C
J
One
super
very
happy
comment
because
I'm
a
super
happy
very
excited
person
I'd
like
to
introduce
this
board
to
my
new
principal
planner
Lisa.
If
you'd
like
to
stand
up,
lisa
is
coming
to
us
from
ocala
fee
like
to
come
to
the
podium,
so
you
can
speak
she's
coming
to
us
from
Ocala.
She
started
last
week
and
we're
very
excited
to
have
her
here
and
welcome
here.
I
wanted
her
to
get
a
chance
to
get
meat
the
meat
this
board,
because
when
I
came
on,
I
didn't
get
that
privilege.
So
welcome
Lisa.
That.
D
G
F
Coming
to
you
from
Marion
County,
it
was
a
senior
planner
there
and
did
a
lot
of
code
reform
for
them
and
prior
to
that,
I
was
in
the
city
of
Corpus
Christi
Texas,
where
it
was
the
zoning
ordinance
administrator
and
their
senior
urban
planner.
So
I
did
a
lot
of
urban
planning
there
in
addition
to
being
in
charge
of
the
zoning
department
and
prior
to
that,
I
worked
with
Florida
Fish
and
Wildlife
as
they're
protected
species
permitting
biologists.
So
if
you
have
any
gopher
tortoise
questions,
I'm
your
girl
and
before
that
I
work
with
st.