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From YouTube: Public Art Committee January 10, 2020
Description
Master plan workshop
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Currently,
the
ordinance
reads
that
if
you
have
a
project
over
a
million
dollars
that
you
will
pay
the
art
fee
upfront
or
if
you
do
a
public
art
piece
that
it
has
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
the
project
what's
been
happening,
is
contractors
and
developers
are
saying
that
they're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
a
public
art
piece
and
that
allows
them
to
get
through
the
project
and
then,
by
the
end
of
the
project,
they
decide
that,
oh
hey,
we
decided.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
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So
I
feel
that
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
burden
off
of
the
art
committee
from
people
saying
that
they
want
to
do
an
art
project
and
then
everybody
gets
involved
and
tries
to
set
a
meeting
and
bring
them
in
and
then
at
the
last
minute
they
just
say
up
never
mind
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
pay
the
fee.
So
I
feel
if
we
do
this
upfront
and
prior
to
receiving
any
final
inspections
either
the
art
project
is
complete
or
they
pay
us
the
art
fee.
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If
everyone
could
look
in
your
folders,
Marisa
has
made
a
copy
of
ordinance
20
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26,
which
is
the
revised
building
department,
ordinance,
and
you
could
see
sort
of
2/3
of
the
way
down
the
page.
There
are
art
design
standards
for
development
and
redevelopment,
and
they
basically
reflect
what
Kevin
just
presented
to
us
verbally.
Our
job
is
to
make
sure
that
our
ordinance
reflects
this
and
coincides
and
reinforces
this.
So
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
we'll
be
dealing
with
either
today
or
Tuesday.
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If
I
give
you
a
certificate
of
occupancy-
and
you
then
decide
not
to
do
your
art
project,
sir
I
have
no
recourse
to
force
you
into
doing
that
art
project
or
paying
into
the
art
art
fund
so
yeah.
This
should
be
completed
prior
to
the
final
inspections,
because
a
lot
of
these
projects
going
to
be
well
into
a
year
being
at
a
larger
project.
So
they
should
know
what
they're
going
to
do,
how
they're
gonna
do
it?
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Right,
the
I
guess
in
talking
to
you
I
guess
the
procedure
will
be
that
if
a
developer
comes
to
you,
they
will
fill
out
a
form
that
Diane
wood
has
prepared,
and
there
are
two
separate
options
they
can
tick.
One
is
the
the:
when
is
the
art
project.
If
they
decide
to
do
the
well,
if
they
decide
to
do
the
payment,
that's
pretty
clear-cut.
If
they
decide
to
do
the
art
project,
it
then
comes
to
us.
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You
know
similar
to
what
we
recently
did
for
both
the
advent
health
emergency
room
and
the
Acharya
project
is
to
vet
the
artwork
to
ascertain
that
the
expertise
of
the
artists
and
the
work
that's
going
to
be
done,
meets
that
$100,000
benchmark.
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
process,
and
once
we
approve
it,
then
the
developer,
will
you
know
complete
the
project
and
I
guess
bring
it
back
to
us
for
our
final
approval
right.
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And
that's
all
going
to
be
on
this
committee
as
to
how
we
do
it
we're
not
providing
any
oversight
to
it.
We're
just
providing
the
forms
this
committee
is
going
to
notify
us
or
Diane
is
going
to
notify
us
as
to
what
the
project
is,
whether
the
project
is
done
or
not.
We
just
want
to
be
sure
that
one
way
or
the
other
they've
met
the
obligation
of
the
ordinance
when
it
comes
to
the
art
fee
right.
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We
have
to
I
guess
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
revised
building
department
ordinance
and
we
have
two
packets
of
other
papers
that
Marisa
was
kind
enough
to
copy.
For
us.
One
is
the
master
plan
2010-2014,
which
is
the
plan,
that's
on
the
books
and
then
the
other
one
is
the
general
guidelines
and
master
plan
which
contain
the
revisions
that
the
public
art
committee
worked
on
last
spring
and
on
the
bottom.
It's
indicated
that
it's
a
2019
draft
and
if
we
go
to.
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Okay,
private
property
owners,
commercial
developments,
have
a
choice
of
paying
an
art
fee
to
the
city's
public,
art
fund
or
commissioning
public
art
work
on
their
property
during
an
eligible
construction
project.
Art
fees
from
private
property
owners,
city
construction,
bond,
funded
projects
and
project
exclusions
are
detailed
in
sections,
296
and
300
of
the
public
art
ordinance
we
may
want
to.
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Yeah
it's
we
submitted
the
designs
for
the
Gateway
signage
in
the
spring
of
2018
and
it
sort
of
went
into
a
review
process
with
F
dot.
You
know,
they're,
you
know
a
lot
of
other
different
agencies
and
for
revisions
and
various
other
changes
to
the
original
design
to
meet
all
of
the
different
codes
and
requirements,
and
basically,
once
we
submitted
the
designs
it
was
taken
out
of
our
purview
and
given
to
the
city
engineering
department.
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Interactive
recycling
bins,
so
basically
the
two
that
we
have
looked
at
one
is
it
would
be
out
at
the
splash
park
and
the
kids
would
drop
plastic
bottles
and
plastic
containers
in
it
turn
a
crank
and
the
bottle
would
go
through
this
little.
What
touched
it
I'm
sorry
go
through
this
little
cycle
thing
that
they
could
watch
and
then
land
in
an
area
that
could
be
picked
up
by
sanitation,
with
signs
that
explained
to
kids
and
in
kids
language.
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Okay,
the
temporary
public
art
program,
those
are
the
solar-powered
illuminated
art
boxes
and
we've
identified
a
vendor
and
I
believe
Diane
is
in
the
process
of
purchasing
one
to
see
whether
they
would
be
the
correct
size
and
have
the
ability
to
be
installed
on
light
posts,
etc.
So
that's
something
that's
in
progress,
the
artists
alley.
Jules.
Do
you
want
to
address
that
right.
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Now
the
biggest
problem
we
have
with
artists
alley,
because
artists
have
indicated
quite
a
bit
of
interest
in
participating
in
it.
It's
the
alleyway
between
Safford
and
hibiscus.
It's
a
delivery
alley
right
now,
but
the
deliveries
all
take
place
early
in
the
morning
usually
and
the
alleyway
has
amazing
potential
for
art
for
creative
murals.
All
the
way
down
our
biggest
problem
right
now
is
that
muralists
and
I
have
called
all
over
the
place.
Muralists
are
not
going
to
pay
for
a
million
dollars
worth
of
insurance.
First
of
all,
very
few
of
them
can
afford
it.
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The
requirements
that
we
were
given
for
any
artwork
of
that
kind
of
nature
are
prohibitive
to
those
who
do
that
kind
of
artwork.
The
second
you
know
besides
hooking
these
two
main
streets
together,
all
the
murals
would
be
above
lit
by
solar,
spotlights
which
would
increase
the
safety
of
the
alleyway.
It
would
bring
traffic
back
and
forth
on
it,
and
the
store
owners
would
get
attention
because
most
of
their
stores
have
some
kind
of
label
and
oh,
look,
look
what
you
know.
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Tarpon
tavern
did
look
what
look
what
the
toy
store
did
so,
and
it
also
helps
up-and-coming
artists
who
really
need
things
for
their
resume
and
we're
not
just
taking
schlock
art
for
the
very
sake
of
it.
These
have
to
be
quality,
work
and
I'm,
getting
lots
of
feedback
from
muralist
saying
I'd
like
to
do
that,
I'd
like
to
do
that,
and
then
they
look
at
the
application
and
the
insurance
is
a
big
issue.
So
is
this
where
I
hand
out
my
homework
to
the
team?
Yes,.
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And
then
maybe
we
can
put
this
together
at
the
next
meeting
and
present
it
to
you
know
the
the
lawyer
to
say
we
can't
do
what
the
Board
of
Commissioners
asked
us
to
do,
that
they
approved
for
us
to
do
because
of
this.
So
we're
going
to
compile
our
information
and
get
our
facts
and
our
ducks
all
in
a
row
right,
yeah.
A
It's
basically
the
whole
concept
of
the
you
know.
The
high
cost
of
the
liability
insurance
is
basically,
you
know
hog
Titus
from
doing
a
lot
of
these.
These
projects
going
forward
because
the
way
it
stands
now,
the
only
people
that
will
be
able
to
afford
this
kind
of
insurance
are
really
major
major
projects,
and
you
know
we
do
want
to
do
something
that
will
allow
students
or
young
up-and-coming
artists
to
participate,
and
we
want
to
encourage
that
population
in.
F
Regards
to
that
I
have
gotten
information
on
five
different
insurance
policies
that
cover
either
short-term
or
a
year
term
for
300
or
you
know,
and
it
gives
them
what
other
cities
are
considering.
You
know
adequate
insurance.
One
was
a
CT
and
I
think
I
talked
about
it
that
it
wanted.
Our
last
meeting,
I
del
I
da
yellen's
for
decorative
artists
coda
works
sports
insurance
company,
but
they
also
cover
artists
in
certain
circumstances
and
I.
Think
we
fit
that
and
a
download
that
we
could
give
them.
F
Several
muralists
have
formed
their
own
LLC,
so
their
insurance
comes
through
their
LLC.
So
that's
another
way
to
go
about
it
plus
progressive
paint,
insurance
and
their
policy
is
probably
one
of
the
more
expensive.
But
it's
also
limited
in
that
you
have
to
do
it
for
I.
Think
it's
two
or
three
years
period
of
time
to
sign
up
for
it,
the
others
you
can
do
it
for
the
project
you're
working
on
and
then
drop
it
and
then
pick
it
up
later.
If
you
need
it
without
any
penalty.
So
that's.
A
Okay,
going
back
to
the
revised
master
plan
on
page
29,
the
art
and
history
trail
has
been
deleted.
As
I
said,
that
was
taken
on
by
Office
of
Economic
Development.
The
manatee
sculpture
program
was
deleted.
The
mural
program
as
I
said
we're
trying
to
advance
that,
and
you
know,
once
we
get
the
insurance
issues
taken
care
of
the
urban
furnishings.
Again.
That's
the
artistic
recycling
and
the
temporary
public
art
program
is
the
solar-powered
illuminated
art
installations
and
the
Holograms
after
extensive
communication
with
the
company
that
provides
the
Holograms.
A
Obviously
there
aren't
that
many
that
that
do
them
it's
it's
really
sort
of
cutting-edge
technology.
It
seems
that
tarpon
springs,
just
doesn't
have
the
infrastructure
to
do
it
because
it
needs
buildings
of
you
know.
Several
storeys
in
height
to
its
the
Holograms,
are
actually
projected
by
several
cameras
onto
a
very,
very
fine
netting,
and
you
need
high
buildings
to
attach
the
netting
to
to
project
these
on
one
of
the
things
that's
nice
about
tarpon
is
its
low
profile,
but
it's
a
drawback
for
doing
this
project.
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B
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That's
in
the
works
is
the
Indiana's
historic,
mural,
so
and
Kyle
Pierce
I
believe
is
continuing
to
work
on
the
the
pelicans,
but
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
in
order
to
kind
of
avoid
the
insurance
issue
is
ask
him
to
take
our
interest
in
the
project.
You
know
in
trust
and
do
the
pelicans
and
when
they're
finished,
we'll
just
purchase
them
just.
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E
Think
this
is
a
strong
list
that
we
are
left
with.
I
see
one
important
element
that
keeps
being
repeated
in
the
ordinance
and
the
old
guidelines
and
the
old
master
plan,
and
that
is
strengthening
the
connection
between
downtown
and
the
Sponge
Docks
mm-hmm
I
I
would
not
like
to
see
that
go
away,
but
in
conjunction
with
that,
both
on
that
path
along
Pinilla,
specifically
I'd
like
to
see
us,
take
a
more
proactive
role
in
identifying
sites
and
then
going
after
projects
that
make
sense
for
that
site.
E
I
think
at
this
point,
we're
taking
in
a
lot
of
ideas
from
artists
at
large,
which
is
good.
Their
creativity
is
something
we
we
need
to
pay
attention
to,
but
I
also
think
we
need
to
prioritize
particular
properties
sites,
neighborhoods,
mm-hmm
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
go
into
the
master
plan
for
the
next
five
years.
Right.
A
Another
addition
to
the
to
the
master
plan
is,
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
a
number
of
people
are
interested
in
doing
an
artwork
in
front
of
the
public
safety
building.
That
would
meant
the
911
sculpture
tribute
that's
already
there.
So
I
think
you
know
that's
something
that
we
have
to
bring
into.
E
A
But
I'd
like
to
create
a
committee
that
would
involved
getting
input
from
primarily
the
police
and
other
first
responders
and
other
concerned
citizens,
so
we
can
get
some.
You
know
conceptual
ideas
of
what
people
would
like
to
see
and
you
know
go
from
there.
So
you
know
because
we
we
do
respond
to
the
public
and
we
do
respond
to
you
know
our
other.
You
know
our
first
responders,
especially
so.
This
is
something
that
we're
going
to
add
to
our
agenda
chief.
H
That
garden
basically
lists
five
officers
that
were
killed
in
line
of
duty
serving
the
city.
It's
it's
it's!
How
old
ground
it's
a
place
of
honor.
So
if
you
look
at
that,
it's
shaped
like
a
badge
and
on
the
right
side
and
Tom
Dobies
helped
us
out
a
lot
with
this.
In
the
beginning,
we
have
a
granite
stone
that
has
the
names
of
the
officers
actually
going
back
to
the
late
1800s
or
to
Marshalls,
and
then
the
other
three
were
officers
that
were
killed
with
the
latest
being
cha
like
on
deck
and
was
my
friend.
H
So,
on
the
left
side,
when
we
originally
did
it,
there
was
a
firefighter
who
was
pretty
good
with
metal
work
and
he
sculpted
two
twin
towers
and
we
actually
got
a
piece
from
you
know:
I,
don't
know
how
it
was
procured,
but
we
actually
have
a
piece
of
this
win
tau
as
a
piece
of
steel.
You
know
on
that
site
in
those
towers,
but
they're
really
falling
apart
and
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while.
We
know
that
it
involves
money
but
to
honor
that
site.
H
We
wanted
to
replace
the
towers
with
some
kind
of
artwork,
maybe
a
police
officer
and
a
firefighter
or,
however,
that
works.
You
know
kind
of
incorporating
that
you
know
that
piece
of
steel
into
the
design
and
I
couldn't
think
of
a
better
place
to
start
really
with
you
guys,
because
that's
what
you
do
you
know
is
why
creativity
on
this
board-
and
you
know
I-
know
it's.
It
has
to
be
done
right
and
I
know
that
you
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
interested
parties,
be
especially
the
Kahndaq
family.
H
You
know,
because
you
know,
because
her
husband
and
all
the
kids
their
father
is,
is
listed
on
that
site.
So
whatever
we
do
is
really
important.
It
has
to
be
done
right
and
I
know.
Joe
and
I
had
some
conversations
about
this,
and
you
know
it's
why
good
kind
of
ideas
throwing
back
and
forth,
but
I
really
think
this
is
the
right
place
to
start
and
I
really
think
it
would
be
a
good
project
for
the
city.
It's
gonna
get
a
lot
of
attention
right.
A
I
also
I
also
think
that
it
would
it's
the
type
of
project
too.
That
would
probably
create
you
know
opportunities
for
donations
correct,
so
you
know
I
think
that
it
would
that's
why
I
think
we
need
that
feedback
from
the
community
from
the
first
responders.
You
know
the
conduct
family
correct,
and
you
know
try
to
make
this.
You
know
kind
of
embrace
the
entire
community
right,
and
you
know
she
said
you
know.
Tom
Dobies
is
always
very
generous
and
I'm
sure
that
there
are
a
lot
of
benevolent
associations
and
other
groups
that
would.
H
Absolutely-
and
you
know
one
of
the
conditions-
I
think
as
we
discussed
kind
of
big
on
this.
If
someone's
to
do
that,
it
has
to
be
done
from
the
heart.
There
will
be
no
quid
pro
quo,
I,
don't
we
don't
want?
Plaques
of
you
know
that
that's
how
we'll
ground
for
us.
It
really
is,
you
know,
and
when
you
know
you
know,
when
your
friends
listed
on
there,
that's
that's
a
sacred
site
for
us
and
and
it's
like
people
do
visit
it.
H
F
A
Yeah
I've
been
in
actually
in
touch
with,
you
know,
an
artist
who
specializes
in
african-american
subjects,
and
but
you
know
it
will
have
obviously
involved
an
open
call,
but
you
know
it's
I
I
think
you
know
this.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while
and
I
think
we're
gonna.
You
know
probably
try
to
add
that
to
the
list
of
lists
of
our
projects,
because,
as
Jules
said,
it's
been
an
underrepresented,
you
know
artistically
underrepresented,
part
of
the
community,
so
I
would
like
to
bring
something
the.
E
Right
now,
you
said
something
that
just
jogged
one
of
the
notes
I
made.
We
specifically
say
in
some
of
these
documents:
betrayal
from
lemon
to
Live
Oak.
Now
that
there
has
been
so
much
development
on
the
south
side
of
town
shouldn't,
we
extend
that
to
mirrors
to
Live
Oak
and
take
in
the
whole
length
of
the
trail
mm-hmm.
A
I
Mean
not
at
the
moment
I'm
just
I'm
I,
you
know
I've
only
been
in
Tarpon
Springs
for
three
years
so
and
I
know
that's
a
lot
of
time,
but
I
haven't
gotten
the
chance
to
explore
all
of
the
you
know
downtown
and
everything
like
that
yeah.
So
I've
seen
some
of
the
stuff
and
I've
seen
like
at
the
Craig
Park
I've
seen
those
stuff
I've
seen
the
the
you
know,
I
did
when
I
got
here,
the
sculpture
wasn't
there
and
then
it
was
there.
I
I
G
J
Yes,
the
the
report
I've
sent
it
out
to
a
lot
of
people.
We
just
recently
got
it
and
was
kind
of
lost
in
history
until
we
contacted
the
the
organization
in
New
York
and
they
shockingly
found
it
after
25
years.
It
still
had
it
on
intact
and
it
and
and
it's
uncanny
in
the
sense
that
it
identifies
things
that
some
have
been
done.
J
Some
we've
done
not
so
well
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
still
need
to
be
done,
and
the
mother
Mears
Park
was
a
special
place
and
as
I
as
since
it's
been
25
years,
there's
a
lot
of
changes
that
have
been
that
have
happened
and
that
plan
certainly
needs
to
be
re-evaluated.
The
recommendations
and
things
of
that
nature.
The
downtown
area
plan
the
one
that
the
city
would
like
to
revise.
Not
this
one
but.
J
For
the
CRA
talks
about
a
park,
a
square
is
in
fact
the
project
for
public
spaces
was
specific,
not
to
identify
it
as
a
park,
but
as
a
square
some
place.
That's
more
relaxing
that
you
can
sit
around
a
little
more
active
than
what
you
would
have
in
a
park,
but
I
think
the
exact
location
would
probably
have
to
be
looked
at
again,
there's
been
some
very
informal
discussion.
If
there's
additional
parking
that
is
created
downtown,
perhaps
we
could
do
something
at
that
corner.
J
Finding
the
location
is
going
to
be
another
story,
so
people
have
still
got
their
eyes
out
and
there's
ideas
and
I'm
hoping
that's.
The
purpose
of
a
plan
is
to
to
get
a
plan.
You
have
to
have
the
discussion
of
all
of
these
things,
reach
a
consensus
and
then
implement
budget
and
implement
that
plan,
and
we
were
not
even
there
yet
we're
dealing
with
things
that
were
done
25
years
ago.
The
ideas
are
great,
but
I
want
to
save
open
taken
by
events
overtaken
by
society
or
whatever.
J
So
we
need
to
kind
of
look
at
them
again.
The
the
corridor
between
that
the
trail
there's
been
some
discussion
and
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
look
at
some
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
where
I
think
they
discussed.
There
seems
to
be
a
sense
that
perhaps
one
end
of
the
trail
that
corridor
has
had
more
attention
paid
to
it
than
others,
and
there's
been
some
thoughts
of
redressing
the
other
end
and
don't
get
I,
don't
know.
I
can't
quite
remember.
I
was
thinking
that
the
Commission
was
talking
about.
J
A
lot
of
amenities
were
done
for
the
Southend
and
we
need
to
do
the
North
End.
It
very
may
may
very
well
be
it's
just
the
opposite
of
what
I'm
describing
it
but
I
think
for
the
purposes
of
public
arts
committee.
It
should
encompass
the
entire
thing
identifying.
What
amenities
are
there
and
from
an
arts
perspective?
What
may
or
may
not
should
be
at
in
that
location
and
then
the
other
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
offer
from
just
listening
to
the
discussion
is
that
it's
like
a
chicken
or
an
egg
argument.