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A
A
Here
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
was
aware
that
trish
gregory
attended
her
resignation
and
I
made
an
arrangement
with
trishiki
in
the
mayor's
office
to
send
her
a
letter
of
appreciation
for
her
service.
A
So
you
know
it's
up
to
the
board
of
commissioners
now
to
select
a
new
member
to
replace
her
so.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
presentation
today
patricia
mcneese.
C
We
do
approval
minutes.
Oh
sorry,.
A
Okay,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
march
19th
meeting.
Lucy
ann.
I
have
her
have
a
second
robert.
I.
D
C
D
The
amendment
at
the
end
of
the
first
paragraph
add
the
words
beginning
with
safford
avenue.
D
A
D
A
A
B
A
Right
any
opposed
the
minutes
were
approved
as
amended.
Okay,
now
patrice
patricia
you're
up,
patricia
mcneese.
Okay,
you
are
from
the
building
department,
correct.
F
I'm
from
planning
and
zoning
department
yeah
I
go
by
pat,
so
my
name
is
pat
mcneese,
I'm
a
principal
planner
with
that
department
and
I
brought
along
two
handouts
today
that
you've
got-
and
I
was
asked
to
just
maybe
just
go
over
that
section
of
our
code
that
deals
with
developer
contributions
to
public
art
for
the
city.
Okay.
F
So
so
really
I'm
going
to
be
kind
of
just
quickly
walking
through
the
section
of
code,
that's
handed
out
as
section
296
and
then
I'll
touch
on
what
projects
we
see
and
what
they
go
through
and
then
we
can.
You
know
talk
about
any
questions.
You
have
any
specific
projects,
I'll
try
my
best
to
answer.
If
it's
something
I
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
F
So
as
you
know,
we
have
article
14
of
our
land
development
code,
that's
appendix
a
if
the
city's
code
of
ordinances
covers
public
art
and
that's
you
know
what
creates
the
committee
and
everything
you
do
and
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
in
that
section.
F
Section
296
in
that
article
deals
with
development
and
redevelopment,
so
just
just
kind
of
walking
through
and
reading
that
section,
starting
with
with
the
subparagraph
a
all
projects
and
developments
consisting
of
new
construction
or
renovation
related
to
commercial,
industrial,
mixed
use
and
residential.
Those
are
the
four
you
know,
residential
pro
sorry,
development
types
that
have
to
meet
this
section
and
just
skipping
down
a
little
bit
that
exceed
the
an
aggregate
job
value
of
a
million
dollars
have
to
contribute
to
public
art.
F
Okay,
so
these
are
projects
with
this
aggregate
job
value
of
a
million
dollars
or
more.
They
have
to
obviously
submit
for
a
building
permit
and
they
have
two
choices.
So
so
it
says
that
they
have
to
allocate
not
less
than
one
percent
of
their
job
value
to
two.
F
Let's
see
to
the
provision
of
public
art
when
we
go
down
a
little
further
we're
going
to
find
out
that
the
developer
has
one
of
two
options
to
to
fulfill
that
requirement,
and
then
it
talks
about
just
kind
of
it
tries
to
close
a
loophole
there
on
multiple
permits.
If
somebody's
pulling,
you
know
doing
a
renovation
of
a
site
with
three
buildings
and
says:
well,
I'm
going
to
come
in
for
three
separate
permits:
that's
not
a
loophole
to
get
out
of
public
art.
F
F
So
once
that's
approved
and
they
go
to
build
that
you
know
install
that
art.
It
has
to
be
completed
before
the
certificate
of
occupancy
is
issued
for
that
project
and
then
the
second
choice
is
to
pay
in
lieu.
F
F
The
first
example
you've
got
the
aggregate
job
value
of
a
million
dollars
where
they're
gonna
do
public
art
they
allocate
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
that
would
be
you
know,
a
ten
million
dollar
project
that
would
be
one
percent
of
the
ten
million
dollar
project.
That's
the
most.
So
if
it's
more
than
ten
million
aggregate
job
value,
they're
gonna
spend
a
hundred
thousand.
That's
the
cap.
Okay,
so
a
million
dollar
project
would
allocate
ten
thousand
two
million
twenty
thousand
and
so
on.
F
F
C
F
Yeah-
and
I
would
note
and
diane
might
know
the
history
this.
F
F
I
have
some
issues,
I
think
some
statutory
issues,
so
that
was
a
good
move
for
him
to
put
hey
we're
not
going
to
go
out
and
do
your
final
inspection
until
we
know
your
public
heart
is
there
and
accepted?
So
that's
that's.
I
think
why
he
put
that
language
in
there
so
yeah.
That
was
the
2019
change.
Like
I
say
I
don't
know
if
the
fees
were
ever
updated
in
2016.
F
Maybe
you
know
diane,
but
I
suspect
they
might
be
the
original
from
the
original
ordinance,
so
so
that
that's
how
the
process
works,
and
we
have.
I
gave
you
this
other
sheet
here,
just
kind
of
for
fun.
It
was
actually
made
for
other.
Our
review
boards
that
review
developments,
including
planning
and
zoning
board
board
of
adjustment,
a
heritage
preservation
board.
F
It
just
shows
all
the
applications
that
come
through
the
planning
and
zoning
department
and
who
reviews
them.
But
it
gives
you
an
idea
what
everything
you
know
everybody
looks
at,
but
from
the
applicant
or
the
developer's
point
of
view
for
a
large
project
generally
he's
going
to
the
technical
review
he
or
she
is
going
to
technical
review
committee.
First,
that's
a
committee
of
city
departments
that
it's
not
a
voting
committee
or
really.
F
You
know
anything
like
that.
It's
it's
to
review
for
compliance,
but
also
it's
it's.
A
good
dialogue
back
and
forth
with
the
applicant
on
you
know,
suggestions
any
city
issues,
any
issues
they
might
have
with
other
agencies.
It's
a
good
exchange
occurs
in
this
room
on
the
second
thursday
of
every
month.
F
So
we're
going
to
have
one
on
thursday
up
here
with
with
several
projects
on
it,
so
they
go
to
the
trc
first
and
then
they
proceed
to
those
that
need
to
proceed
to
the
planning
and
zoning
board,
and
that,
like
I
say,
most,
big
projects
do
require
going
to
these
different
boards
in
tarpon
springs.
F
F
I
know
I
think
somebody
we
were
saw
some
emails
back
and
forth
about
which
projects
were
coming,
which
were
paying
the
holiday
inn.
Express,
for
example,
is
a
good
good
example.
They
applied.
They
went
through
all
this
applied
for
their
permits.
They
had
one
outstanding
item
for
drainage
covid
hit,
it
sat
the
permit
sat,
it
was
not
issued,
so
it
expired.
The
application
expired
and
the
gentleman
lost
the
franchise.
F
Well,
we've
had
recent
contact
that
that
he
he's
regained
the
franchise
from
holiday.
I
think
it's
still
holiday
and
express
and
he's
going
to
be
coming
in.
He
may
already
have
come
in
to
reapply
for
that
building.
Permit
now,
you're
going
to
ask
me
what
he
was
going
to
do.
I
want
to
say
he
was
going
to
do
public
art
on
site,
but
that
building
permit
hasn't
come
across
our
desk
yet
and
to
kind
of
circle
back
on
this
process.
F
When
someone
applies
for
a
building
permit,
it
comes
to
planning
and
zoning.
First,
we
review
it
for
public
art,
in
addition
to
everything
else,
to
make
sure
it
complies
with
what
the
board
of
commissioners
approved.
Exactly
that's
before,
building
ever
touches
it
building
has
a
30-day
statutory
review
period.
So
you
know
it's
another
one
of
those
things
that
the
past,
so
they
don't
start
their
review
until
we're
done
and
say
yeah.
This
is
what
the
board
approved.
F
So
so
that's
when
we
verify
all
that
stuff,
we
calculate
the
fee.
We
send
the
applicant
an
email
about
the
fee
right
away.
When
we,
you
know,
review
the
permit,
because
I
will
be
honest
with
you
a
lot
of
times.
They
either
forget
that
they
had
to
do
it
or
it
goes
to
somebody
else
in
the
corporation
that
didn't
wasn't
told
they
had
to
do
it.
You
get
everything
right.
It's
like
what
you
know.
F
We
have
to
put
yeah,
so
you
get
you
get
that
kind
of
stuff
and
and
the
the
code
was
changed
to
allow
them
to
pay
on
final
inspection
too,
because
that
can't
be
an
issue
for
a
developer
once
they
get
started
start
you
know,
break
ground
start
a
cash
flow,
then
it's
a
little
easier
for
them
to.
F
However,
their
situation
or
financing
their
mortgage
or
whatever
to
you
know,
once
cash
flow
is
going,
it's
like
yeah.
How
much
money
am
I
paying
up
front
before?
I
even
have
a
building
permit
issue
that
that's
that
can
get
tricky,
so
this
makes
it
a
little
easier,
and
this
really
is
intended
for
projects
that
are
going
to
be
built
right,
so
that
that
kind
of
softens
the
blow
a
little
bit
and
also
ensures
that
you
know
we're
going
to
issue
a
permit
and
get
get
the
art
out
of
the
project.
F
See
excluded
from
this
requirement
projects
with
a
good
job
value
under
a
million.
Obviously
it's
kind
of
the
flip
reverse
of
what
the
first
section
says:
affordable,
housing
and
then
anything
that
was
really
in
the
pipeline.
When
this
ordinance
was
passed,
I
would
say:
there's
I'm
willing
to
bet
there's
nothing,
that's
still
kind
of
alive,
permit-wise
that
that
was
in
the
pipeline.
F
So
so
that's
the
ordinance,
like
I
say,
the
the
development
project
types.
I
would
say
on
this
list,
the
ones
that
that
are
going
to
hit
that
million-dollar
mark
are
going
to
be
some
of
the
uses
by
rights
which
are
site
plans
planned
developments.
Some
of
them
will
and
some
won't
so
planned
developments
would
be
another
one.
F
That's
probably
probably
the
two
categories
that
most
of
them
fall
fall
under
yeah.
So
then
yeah
like
I
say
there
were
some
emails
going
around.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
touch
on
a
couple
I
know
or
or
that
we
anticipate
to
come.
F
The
include
harbor
project
they
had
come
and
talked
to
you
about
public
art.
I
know
I
came
to
that
meeting.
They
proposed
to
do
art
on
site
they've
applied
for
a
building,
permit
a
project
called
cypress
trails.
It's
going
to
be
building
a
phase,
two
of
there's
a
phase
one
out
there.
It's
called
cypress
trails,
town
homes,
it's
up
on
jasmine
and
spruce
they're,
going
to
build
the
second
phase
of
theirs.
F
F
Firm
and
volvo
came
in
and
got
minor
site
plan
approval
for
their
project
and
they
have
not
pulled
their
permit
yet,
but
they
will
have
a
fee
due
on
that
project
and
the
we
have
one
going
to
the
planning
and
zoning
board
next
monday
called
you
guys
are
gonna
love.
It
take
five
car
wash
another
car
wash
sorry
next
to
the
cvs.
F
F
We
put
we've
recommended
a
condition
that
these
guys
take
five
car
wash
immediately
get
an
artisan
get
with
you,
so
they
don't
hold
up
their
co
if
they're
going
to
do
art
on
site,
because
some
of
these
people
tend
to
depend
on
who's
working,
you
know,
you've
got
an
engineer
and
an
owner
cvs
owns
that
site
and
still
owns
it.
So
there's
a
land
sale
going
on
come
sometimes
it
gets
lost
in
the
mix.
So
we
put
that
on
there
and
advise
them.
You
know
don't
come
to
the
last
minute
and
say:
hey
we
want.
F
You
know
our
building
permit
in
our
seat.
Well,
have
you
started
public
art
yet
so
we
do
advise
them
of
that.
But
you
know
we
don't
really
know
the
real
value
of
the
project
until
the
building
permit
comes
in
and
the
contractor
puts
it
on
the
permit.
F
F
So
I
have
a
question
yeah
and
just
as
far
as
projects,
I
didn't
really
have
anything
else.
I
thought
of
that
was
over
a
million,
that's
recent.
So
if
there's
any
you
want
to
ask
about,
I
can.
B
F
B
F
F
A
If
you
look
in
your
packets,
I
thought
we'd
just
segue
to
this
because
we're
kind
of
talking
about
it.
I
sent
an
email
to
tom
trask,
the
city
attorney,
about
making
some
changes
to
the
ordinance,
because
I
know
we've
all
had
concerns
and
if
you
look
at
the
red,
have
you
found
it
it's
his
ordinance
revision
for
the.
A
And
it
says:
artworks
must
be
located
in
publicly
accessible
locations
which
are
approved
by
the
public
art
committee,
in
addition
to
approving
the
art
itself
and
then
paragraph
three.
If
the
developer
opts
to
create
a
permanent
public
artwork,
the
public
art
committee
reserves
the
right
to
specify
the
location
of
the
artwork
which
may
or
may
not
be
located
at
or
near
the
development.
A
F
Yeah
and
the
interesting
part
of
making
that
work
will
be
that
the
art
is
installed
before
the
co,
because
the
because
the
artist
now
does
not
have
control
of
the
the
office
site,
so
the
city
would
have
to
agree
yeah
so
that
that's
tricky.
Hopefully,
you
can
work
that
out
it's
a
timing
issue,
maybe
it's
just
that
they
donate
some
sculpture
or
something
to
be
put
somewhere
in
the
future.
D
I
did
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
directly
related
to
this.
I
suspect
that
that
requirement
may
encourage
a
developer
to
opt
for
funding
paying
the
fee
rather
than
commissioning
a
piece
in
some
yet
to
be
determined
location,
I'm
guessing,
but
can
you
talk
about
the
exception
for
residential
developments?
D
F
Ring,
oh
right,
the
oh
called
carriage
homes
on
ring,
I'm
not
sure
if
they
were
exempted
or
not.
You
know
this.
This
specify
is
individual
single-family
residential
lots,
but
a
town-home
development
is
attached
homes.
So
it's
not
like
give
you
an
example.
We
just
had
a
plat,
you
know
finished
and
I
think
they're
doing
they're
doing
vertical
construction
now
called
eagle,
creek
their
sight
work
and
planning
was
over
a
million
dollars
and
they
I
think
they
paid
their
anyway.
F
They,
you
know
we're
gonna
pay
in
lieu,
but
when
some
when
so
they
they
are
building
homes
on
on
the
lots,
but
an
owner
can
buy
a
lot
and
build
his
own
home
on
the
lot
so
that
that's
a
plot
with
detached
dwellings,
I
would
say
the
the
carriage
homes
on
ring
probably
had
to
either
contribute,
or
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
public
art
on
the
site.
I
can't
picture
it
right
now.
So,
but
that's
one
you
know
that
was
approved
back
in
2015.
F
That
could
certainly
be
research
to
see
what
they
ended
up
doing,
but
they
just
pulled
their
their
permit
recently.
I
know
what
the
exact
determination.
D
G
He's
done
a
lot
of
art
related
buildings
in
things
in
dunedin,
so
he's
very
attuned
to
that.
So
it's
it's
interesting
that
there's
no
anything
about
that
about
what
it
is.
You
know
like
it,
whether
it,
whether
he
he
bypass
that
or
well.
F
I'm
sure
there
is,
I
just
don't
I
don't
know
it
off
the
top
of
my
head.
He
may
have
paid
into
the
fund
like
I
say
it
was,
and
I
think
he
pulled
the
permit
and
code
in
the
last
fiscal
year
or
maybe
pulled
it
before
that.
So
that
was
one
where
the
project
was
delayed
and,
like
I
say
that
was
one
of
those
where
it
was
delayed,
but
it
was
still
the
site
plan.
Approval
was
still
good,
so
from
2015
yeah.
A
Well,
the
the
email
that
I
got
just
as
a
review
was,
I
guess,
pioneer
homes,
which
is
the
cypress
trails
that
you
referenced.
That's
still
kind
of
out
there.
F
F
A
Dan's
car
wash,
I
guess,
is
still
out
there.
The
city
clerk's
office
is
still
out
there
eagle
ridge.
Is
it
ridge.
A
A
They
paid
13,
365.,
firm
and
volvo
paid
twenty
four
thousand
four
hundred
and
seventy
four
dollars
and
thirty
four
cents
yeah
express
as
you've
just
indicated,
is
awaiting
a
new
permit,
submittal
and
then
there's
manatee
plaza.
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
on
them
and
160
reed
streak.
They
appeared
before
the
heritage
preservation
board
yesterday
the
day
before
yesterday,
and
I
think
they
they
160.
A
Yeah,
but
I
think
they,
the
the
attorney,
said
something
that
their
renovations
alone
would
be
hovering
around
750,
so
they
might
be
getting.
B
G
This
is
a
little
bit
different.
What's
the
process,
I'm
not
seeing
anywhere
here
if
we
refuse
the
project
we
have
that
I'm
sort
of
assuming
that
it
has
to.
We
have
to
clear
it.
Yes,
so
I
don't
see
anything
in
here
about
what
the
recourse
of
the
person
making
the
application
is
for.
If
we
say
no,
we
don't
like
that.
F
F
E
Just
to
back
up
a
second
to
more
more
of
a
philosophical,
you
know
look
at
this.
You
know
I
think
we
heard
from
city
of
tampa
and
they
really
don't
they
they
collect
a
fee
for
it.
There's
doesn't
appear
to
be
an
option
for
someone
to
do
an
on-site
piece
of
artwork
because
they
want
to
control
a
little
bit
more
of
it.
It
seems
like
we're
fraught
with
you
know,
situations
the
whole
way
along
from
you
know,
is
it
appropriate
where
they're
placing
it?
E
Is
it
appropriate
what
they're
doing
and
then
also
the
legacy
part
of
it
is
if
that
project
gets
sold
to
someone
else
who
retains
the
ownership
who's
going
to
maintain
it,
who
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
happen
throughout
the
entire
process
and
the
way
the
ordinance
is
currently
written.
It
looks
like
we're
asking
for
that
first
and
in
lieu
of
that
you
can
pay
a
fee,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
philosophically
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
where
we
are
in
that
process,
everybody
follow
what
I'm
saying.
A
Exactly
you
know
yeah,
I
think
I
think
we
could.
Probably
you
know,
use
a
another
look
at
the
ordinance.
A
Then
I
like
that,
especially
after
speaking
to
you,
know,
rob
and
I
at
tampa,
because
you
know
I
mean
I
I
just
you
know
you
know
listening
to
you
pat,
I
just
had
this
vision
of
you
know
all
these
car
washes
with.
You
know.
You
know
some
kind
of
statuary.
A
A
C
Well,
and
I
think
what
we
wanted
to
do
today
is
just
be
able
to
ask
she
wanted
to
explain
like
the
processes
and
everything,
so
I
think
that's
a
discussion
for
you
all
right
about
the
ordinance,
but
if
you
have
any
other
questions
you
know
about
how
they
calculated.
I
think
that
was
the
big
thing
is
for
you
to
understand
like
how
they
calculated
and
what
is
exempt.
C
D
C
A
A
We
could
have
a
ordinance
revision
workshop
or
some
kind
of
you
know,
because
I
I
think
you.
F
F
Great
and
to
diane's
point,
you
know
what
our
finance
director
does
is
when
building
department
they
they
take.
That.
C
F
Key
it
into
to
the
revenue
account
that
the
mr
herring
designates
and
it
goes
into
diane's
revenue,
and
you
know
periodically,
you
guys
can
print
that
and
then,
if
diane
wants
to
know
hey,
you
know
what
were
these
revenue
entries?
What
what
permit
was
that
we
can.
Certainly,
I
can
certainly
answer
that
and
then
at
some
point,
when
you
either
do
your
budget
or
do
a
budget
revision
resolution,
it's
folded
into
your
budget.
Obviously
ron
doesn't
put
it
directly
in
your
budget.
A
Well,
further
down
on
the
agenda:
it's
it's
something
that
I
added
as
a
discussion
point
would
be
diane
and
I
talked
about.
It
would
be
to
have
a
megan
give
us
a
brief
budget
overview
at
every
meeting.
Just
so,
we
know
how
much
money
we
have
in
in
the
account,
because
we
turned
down
a
project
because
we
were
worried
about
the
expense.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
realistic
grasp
of
what
we
are
working
with.
D
F
Well,
an
impact
fee,
and
I
suspect
that
was
probably
put
in
there.
Maybe
with
the
help
of
your
your
city
attorney,
it
sounds
like
attorney
language.
Doesn't
it
but
impact
fees
are
something
that
that
is.
Is
you
know
every
well
pretty
much?
Every
jurisdiction
in
florida
has
been
around
in
other
states,
they're
normally
for
public
facilities
to
pay
for
the
imp,
new
impacts
of
new
development,
so
the
old
example
would
be.
You
know
I
have
a
road,
a
two-lane
road,
I'm
going
to
build
a
big.
F
You
know
shopping
center
with
a
mcdonald's
and
whatever
I'm
going
to
generate.
You
know
3
000
trips
a
day,
I'm
going
to
impact
that
road
and
the
road
goes
below
the
adopted
capacity,
and
I
have
to
add
a
lane.
The
impact
fees
can
be
used
to
add
that
lane
they
can't
be
used
to
maintain
the
road.
That's
there
already.
It's
just
for
new
developments,
so
that
goes
into.
F
We
do
collect
impact
fees
with
all
building
permits,
and
that
does
go
into
a
special
another
special
fund
that
mr
herring
has.
That
can
only
be
used
for
new.
You
know
water
lines
and
and
road
lanes
and
certain
things
like
that,
so
it
was
probably
to
avoid
you
know.
Public
art
isn't
really
a
required
capacity
public
facility.
A
Okay:
okay,
we're
into
old
business
feedback
on
the
public
artwork
shop
with
robin
nye.
I
know
diane
has
provided
some
notes
and,
as
it
was
indicated
too,
it
is
archived
on
youtube.
If
anybody
wants
to
go
over
it.
I
know
there
were
some
comments
about
the
sound
quality,
so
it's
good
to
have
the
notes
as
back
up
but.
C
I
think
he
put,
I
think
that
mark
jump
did
put
another
version
on
there
that
has
better
quality,
okay,
so
yeah,
because
he
did
get
in
touch
with
me
after
that,
okay.
E
I
think
what
we
just
discussed
with
the
fees
and
developing
you
know
the
funding
is
probably
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
that
had
an
impact
for
me,
along
with
that
that,
as
we
look
at
the
ordinance,
I
think
we
need
to
to
watch
too,
because
there
there
was
some
discussion
that
she
brought
up
about.
You
know
a
non-profit
that
helped
to
create
some
of
the
funding
for
some
of
these
things
and
the
way
we're
currently
written.
E
I
believe
all
that
funding
would
go
directly
into
the
city
and
we're
still
obligated
with
that
fifteen
thousand
dollar
limit.
Without
I,
I
think
some
of
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
too,
as
we
look
at
at
the
ordinance
going
forward.
So
those
were
two
of
the
big
takeaways
that
I
had
from
her
presentation
that
I
thought
were
extremely
insightful
and.
C
Couldn't
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
do
you
remember
one
of
the
things
that
I
picked
up
from
what
she
was
saying
about
the
non-profit
too,
was
that
it
was
kind
of
like
if
there's
like
a
big
project,
the
public
art
committee
would
fund
so
much
of
it
and
then
the
non-profit
would
add
funds
to.
E
G
E
E
C
Might
not
be
a
bad
idea
for
you
all
to
kind
of
take
a
look
at
the
ordinance
and
then
you
know
just
kind
of
give
your
perspective
revisions,
and
then
you
know
bring
it
back
for
discussion.
You
know
among
you
all
and
then
come
up
with
like
a
final
draft
that
we
could
present
for
them
to
look
at
right.
E
Yeah
it
seems
like,
philosophically,
we
need
to
come
up
with
an
idea
and
then
we're
going
to
have
to
bring
the
the
legal
in
and
they're
going
to
have
to
write
it,
because
it's
beyond
what
we're
probably
capable
of
doing.
But
I
think
philosophically,
I
think
we
want
to
set
some
outline
for
what
we
think
might
be
the
the
right
way
for
it
to
be
drafted.
A
You
know
art
projects
sprinkled
all
over
us
19,
which
is
going
to
present
a
problem
anyway,
you
know
our
our
charge.
Our
mission,
according
to
the
ordinance,
is
to
basically
provide
a
cohesive
and
meaningful
appearance
to
the
city,
so
this
is
almost
in
violation
of
our
min
mission
to
have
this
stuff,
just
like
helt,
your
skelter,
all
over
town
anytime,
somebody
builds
a
car
wash
they
put.
You
know,
you
know
some
kind
of
gurgling
fountain
in
the
front
of
it,
and
you
know
it
kind
of
reflects
badly
on
us
and
on
the
city.
C
How
do
you
want
to
proceed
with
with
that.
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
if
you
could
diane
be
so
kind
as
to
mail
us
some,
you
know
openings.
B
A
A
Okay,
any
other
comments
on
the
public
art
workshop:
okay,
moving
right
along
sports
field,
mural
project.
E
We
spoke
just
prior
to
to
the
meeting
here.
We
both
had
busy
busy
schedules
this
past
month.
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
reach
out
to
the
and
interrupt
david
reach
out
to
the
folks
that
are
responsible
for
the
riverside,
which
would
be
the
football
or
soccer
and
and
soccer
both
and
be
able
to
talk
and
get
a
little
bit
of
feedback
from
whoever
runs
those
programs.
E
E
That's
riverside
riverside
rivers
right
across
from
the
middle
school.
E
B
E
To
put
the
the
boxes,
the
art
boxes
up,
there
are
two
poles
that
that
would
work
they're,
the
really
large
poles
in
in
diameter,
one
right
by
the
concession
area
and
then
one
as
you
go
towards
the
back
fields.
So
those
are
the
two
places
that
I
would
see
that
would
have
some
possible,
but
there's
a
lot
going
on
there.
It's
just.
B
B
No,
no
for
the
for
the
field
for
the
for
the
buildings.
Oh.
C
C
E
Do
well,
I
I
don't
know
that
we're
gonna
get
from
the
coaches
or
whoever
runs
those
programs.
An
exact
idea
of
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
see,
but
I
think
what
we'll
get
is
some
guidelines
that
maybe
we
can
put
into
a
cult
of
artist
that
this
is
kind
of
what
the
you
know
the
owner
is
looking
for,
potentially
because
I
think
we
have
to
to
cross
a
bridge
there
between
both
soccer
and
football,
because
it
gets
used
heavily
by
both
sports.
E
B
G
E
If
you
go
talk
to
them
first
and
then
go
with
a
call
to
artists
like
they
listen
to
me,
okay,.
G
G
C
And
that's
helpful
to
the
artist
when
you
do
a
call
to
artists
as
well.
You
know
you
they've
got
to
have
the
measurements
and
you
know
have
an
idea
of
how
big
and
you
know,
because
then,
when
we're
asking
them
to
give
an
estimate
of
their
supplies
and
things
you
know,
then
you
know
they
can
if
they
have
the
measurements
and
everything
they
have
a
better
idea
of
what
it
would
cost
them.
A
A
C
Based
on
your
collective
votes,
these
were
the
ones
that
you
selected
of
the
phase
one
and
phase
two
artwork
that
was
submitted
all.
A
Right
so
these
are
the
selected
pieces
and
we
have
five
boxes,
and
I
checked
with
diane
allen
at
ups
did
buy
the
extra
panels,
so
changing
things
out
will
be
a
lot
more
efficient
and
I
think
with
it
with
a
with
an
eye
toward
this
we're
also,
I
mean
it's
almost
may
we're
also
teetering
on
the
point
of
putting
out
the
third
cult
artist
for
the
art
boxes
in
general,
because
I
think
we
usually
do
that
in
june
june.
A
C
I've
had
some
emails
from
some
of
the
artists
that
have
said
that
they
got
the
sponge
docs
and
saw
their
art
and
they
were
very
happy
and
proud,
so
that
was
kind
of
nice,
so
I
guess
with
the
five
additional
ones
you
can
decide
if
you
want,
if
you're
not
going
to
put
them
at
sisler
or
whatever.
Maybe
we
just
finish
them
out
like
bill
said
during
that
one
meeting
you
know
down
at
sponge
docks
and
extend
it
down
towards
rusty
bellies
sure
you
know,
if
that's
what
you
want
to.
D
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
G
You
know-
and
I
I
think
just
to
go
back
to
where
these
should
belong
to
the
docs-
is
that
you
get
about.
90
of
these
images
are
about
the
docks,
so
I
mean
it's
appropriate.
I
mean
having
having
you
know
a
picture
of
a
fish
up
on
tarpon
avenue,
maybe
doesn't
quite
quite
as
much
as
that.
There
may
be
there's
another
project.
I
think
that
we
should
look
for
that
would
illuminate
somewhat
or
somehow
with
with
some
maybe
different
devices,
or
something
like
that.
That
area
of
tarpon
and
and.
D
A
A
A
Okay,
current
updates
the
black
heritage
project,
the
selection
panel
met
march
24th
at
2
p.m.
In
the
siege
project,
the
selection
panel
met
march
24th
at
2
p.m.
In
the
senior
info
center
at
the
library,
two
semi-finalists
were
selected:
the
humanity
memorial
and
stephen
oliver
and
the
panel
had
some
additional
modifications
and
once
that's
communicated
to
the
artists
and
done
they'll
come
back
to
us
and
one
will
be
selected
to
be
presented
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
A
Right
and
I
copied
diane,
we
got
confirmation
from
the
artists
that
they
will
work
within
that
budget
no
surprises
and
they
they
both
well.
A
A
They
were
each
given
half
an
hour
and
the
other
one
was
in
spain.
So
there
were
some
questions
I
think
about
how
to
get
the
artwork
from
spain
to
tarpon
springs.
You
know
all
about
the
you
know
great
costs.
Well,
not
the
no
like
the
the
logistics
of
of
building
this
thing
or
fabricating
it
in
tarpon
springs.
You
know.
Is
it
going
to
be
fabricated
in
spain
fabricated
here,
so
it
it
was.
It
became
a
a
very
complicated
project.
A
A
A
Stuff,
their
memory
replaced.
You
know
they
were
pretty
ambitious
projects,
but
I
think
that
they,
you
know
the
artist
indicated
that
they
were.
You
know
they
were
willing
to
do
it.
There
was
a
certain
appeal.
A
C
B
A
And
solano
is
the
the
artist
from
spain
and
that
was
kind
of.
As
I
said,
everybody
was
allotted
half
an
hour
and
it
took
them
like
10
minutes
to
find
their
translator.
C
A
To
go
through
all
right,
yeah,
okay,
moving
on
down
the
agenda
here,
this
is.
A
Desmond
actually
contacted
me,
st
cates
is
having
some
manpower
issues
and
hopefully
they
will
be
reinstalling.
The
two
repaired
nyad
statues
by
the
end
of
the
week.
Would
you
like
to
have
a
lottery.
A
A
A
D
It
dropped
sort
of
like
water
too.
I
I
did
get
to
visit
with
the
man
who
runs
the
dunedin
and
tarpon
springs
bike
tours
and
got
a
little
bit
from
him.
We
didn't
get
together
very
extensively
and
will,
but
just
in
general
he
loved
the
idea.
He
thought
that
the
bookends
really
made
a
statement
about
tarpon.
D
He,
of
course,
was
full
of
images
that
would
be
that
would
be
appropriate,
but
in
terms
of
functionality
for
biker,
bicyclist,
a
misty
water
rather
than
a
deluge,
as
you
pointed
out,
you
know
helmets
and
equipment.
Don't
do
real
well
in
florida
rust.
He
talked
about
some
things
that
dunedin
has
which
are
sort
of
outside
of
public
art,
but
are
instructed
to
know
about.
He
said
there
is
a
place
in
dunedin
that
peop
bikers
can
fill
their
water
bottles.
D
That
has,
you
know,
maybe
wrenches
stuff,
like
that.
I
don't
know
that
that's
our
mission,
but
I
think
it's
something
we
could
share,
maybe
with
the
parks
department
and
they
they
could
do
it.
But
generally
yes,
the
idea
of
refreshment
and
and
rest
and
an
art
experience,
and
I
I
think
we
need
to
take
to
heart
a
suggestion
that
robert
made,
which
is
that
the
peace
needs
to
survive.
Even
if
the
water
is
off,
it
needs
to
stand
on.
G
G
D
I
do
think
the
one
where
the
neptune
lounge
is:
that's
that's
eddie.
D
E
E
G
You
know
on
either
ends
I
mean
if
you
want
to
just
be
very
basic.
You
know
just
start
from
this
premise:
a
gate
that
has
a
misting
operation
to
it,
but
that
when
the
when
you
don't
need
the
misting
like
when
it's
30
degrees,
you
know
out,
you
don't
want
to
be
go
through
mist.
You
have
to
figure
out
that
well.
G
Said
what
was
that?
But
you
do
want
the
the
device
that
that
has
the
mr
in
it
to
be
standalone
as
a
piece
of
art
now
that
that
could
be
just
some
kind
of
a
gate
that
somebody
you
know.
G
Archway,
you
know
somebody
carves
a
water
jet
with
some
images
and
stuff
on
like
that,
and
I
mean
that's
not
super
expensive
and
it's
you
know
you
you
it's
it's
rigged
with
that
that
mister,
whatever
that
thing
and
I
think
they
come
from
self-contained
stuff
or
does
it
come
from
city,
water
or
what
you
know.
I
don't
know.
G
F
D
G
G
D
D
B
G
Not
yeah,
it's
probably
I'm
probably
nitpicking,
but
I
think
I
think
we're
all
probably
on
the
same
page
it
could
be
on
either
end
of
thing.
It
could
be
a
passage
structure,
a
a
gateway
of
some
sort.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
super
expanded.
It
could
be
elaborate,
I
mean,
because
you
can
do
amazing
things
with
computers
and
and
laser
or
water
jet
would
be
more
appropriate
for
it
to
be
cut
by
water
jet
than
by
laser
yeah.
G
B
Lucian
I
looked
at
the
property
off
the
pinellas
trail
down
by
the
park,
the
splash
park.
What
have
you
where
they
have
the
workout
area.
D
B
I
believe
they
also
have
one,
not
a
water,
but
it
says
palm
harbor
as
you're
entering
into
palm
harbor
and
and
there's
plenty
of
area
down
there,
and
I
know
that
I
I
did
see
people
down
there
working
out
a
little
little
mist
after
working
out
or
riding
your
bicycle
would
not
be
a
bad
thing.
It
would
be
a
good
thing.
Yeah.
D
B
C
Yeah
just
just
go
ahead
and
if
you
could
email
me
your
questions
and
then,
if
you
have
like
a
picture
of
where
the
site
that
would
help
too,
because
then
I
could
send
it
to
public
works
and
they
could
see
it.
D
D
B
Miss
bacon,
there's
efficient
people,
we
work
with
so
the
what
was
budgeted
was
147.5
and
actual
expenditure
being
50
000..
Six
hundred
ninety
four
and
ninety
six
thousand
eight
hundred
five
remaining.
That
is
not
with
the
eagle
creek.
Thirteen
thousand
three
hundred
sixty
five,
so
we're
approximately
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
one.
Seventy.
Seventy
five
approximately.
G
G
G
Yeah
we
could,
we
could
do
it
by
the
square
foot
and
things
like
that.
What
the
material
is.
I
mean
whether
it's
a
a
high
grade
aluminum
or
whether
it's
stainless
steel
or
something
like
that.
A
All
right
and
bill
just
mentioned
the
magic
word
sponsorship.
A
I
don't
think
that's
anything
that
would
violate
any
of
our
regulations
diane
what
to
get
somebody
to
if
somebody.
B
G
Or
on
sanford
avenue,
wash
your
car
and
so
and
so
on,
yeah
we'd.
C
C
G
C
D
Okay
gumballs,
this
may
be
highly
inappropriate,
but
I'm
going
to
suggest
it
anyway.
This
is
a
big
project
and
it
could
be
a
signature.
B
A
Could
certainly
consider
that
I
have
a
I
have
another
project.
I
want
to
tell
everybody
about,
but
nibble
nibble
nibble,
nibble,
gulp
gulp,
but
anyway
yeah.
It
would
be
a
big
gulp,
but
I
think
I
may
have
found
some
some
help
with
funding,
so
it
might
not
be
such
a
big
gulp
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think
our
first
consideration
is
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
budget,
but
I
agree
it
would
be
a
signature
project
and
maybe
you
know
could
give
it
priority.
C
One
thing
you've
discovered
too,
is
you
know
what
like
what
pat
was
saying
in
her
presentation
is
that
you
know
developers
will
come
in
and
then
circumstances
it's
like
you're,
like
okay,
great
we're
going
to
get
this
money
and
then,
if
it
falls
through,
you
know
so,
there's
no.
Unfortunately,
there's
no
crystal
ball
to
tell
us.
You
know,
okay,
it's
great,
that
this.
These
are
coming
down
the
pike,
but
whether
they're,
actually
viable
projects
or
not,
also
depends
to
be
seen
too
right.
A
A
A
It's
going
to
be
the
last
week
in
october
to
coincide
with
friends
of
the
library
national
week.
Okay,
I
reached
out
to
kelly
and
crystal
will
be
donating
a
framed
giclee
to
the
library.
Elizabeth
indianos
is
donating.
A
mezzotint
of
moonlight
on
the
ancoat
ant
cloak
can't
walk
today,
and
there
was
a
discussion
of
purchasing
the
marcoya
lenticular
it.
A
It
was
part
of
the
black
heritage
project
proposal
and
it
got
very
high
marks
from
the
selection
panel,
but
they
were
worried
about
the
location
of
the
installation
and
some
of
the
the
content
issues
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
the
the
thrust
of
the
the
project
itself.
The
black
history
project,
but
anyway
it
can
be
purchased.
It
was
both
tyrion
and
todd
were
very
excited
about
doing
it
and
installing
it
on
the
outside
of
the
library
under
the
overhang
on
the
outside.
A
A
G
Is
that
going
to
include
any
kind
of
adjustments
for
installation-
and
I
mean-
is
it
gonna-
be
an
architect
involved
in
this.
B
A
He
also
volunteered
to
create
a
thousand
3d
postcards
that
the
friends
could
sell
as
a
fundraiser.
So
I'm
going
to
explore
some
additional
funding
for
this,
but
I'd
just
like
to
get
a
feel
for.
If
I
have
a
the
image
of.
G
A
A
I
know
he's
got
a
big
following
the
I'm
on
the
board
of
the
lipa
and
the
attendance.
That's
an
average
three-month
attendance
figure
was
700
and
when
his
work
was
exhibited,
that
the
museum
went
up
to
4
000.
B
G
No
no,
but
it
you
know
that
was.
B
A
G
A
B
G
I
know
from
my
own
interest
in
in
doing
laser
cut
stuff
and
that
it's
going
to
be
more
expensive
than
that
to
do
what
what
we
want
and.
G
A
B
C
C
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
it
could
be
a
cooperative
effort
and
you
know
I
know
that
the
the
friends
of
the
library
have
have
some
money
too,
but
you
know,
as
I
said,
I'm
I'm
exploring.
E
A
B
A
D
B
A
A
G
This
piece
doesn't
seem
to
me,
this
is
reactive
and
it
takes
a
big
portion
of
the
of
our
budget
on
a
reactive
thing
as
nice,
as
the
piece
is,
I
mean
I
wish
we
had
three
times
as
much
budget
we'd
say
we
went
that
and
we
went
the
other
thing,
but
you
know
I
it's
a
conundrum
in
that
is.
Is
the
safford
avenue
piece
a
chance
to
really
do
something
precedent
setting
for
for
downtown
tarpon.
G
As
opposed
to
putting
this
up
in
the
library
it's
very
possible,
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
look
at
it
and
say:
oh
the
friends
of
the
library
have
done
that
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
it
could
go
that
way.
I
mean
it's
for
the
library
in
a
way,
but
I
what
I
can
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
it's
taking
a
big
portion
of
our
budget.
A
G
If,
if
if
we
could
work
it
out
somewhere
to
where
the
budget
for
the
safford
thing
was
was
if
everything
was
reversed,
it
was
more
like
eighty
thousand
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
that.
I
think
you
could
maybe
see
that
happening,
but
you
know
for
I
you
know
I
don't
know
you
know
lucian.
You
said
that
you,
you
saw
this
as
really
a
kind
of
a
signature
thing.
G
D
And
to
start
that
process
we've
all
been
talking
around,
which
is
helping
to
stamp
a
visual
identity.
F
A
So
basically,
I
have
been
approached
several
times
by
a
friend
of
mine.
Who's
been
trying
to
give
us
money.
A
Nobody
seems
to
want
to
take
me
up
on
it,
so
I
figured
you
know.
I
was
talking
to
carrie
about
this
and
I
think
you
know
working
with
the
friends
of
the
library
and
it's
very
likely
it
might
be
a
joint
project.
But
I
don't
see
the
problem
with
you
know
doing
something
in
in
concert
with
the
friends.
It
would
be.
The
pack
and
the
friends
and
the
department
of
agriculture
actually
has
significant
amount
of
grant
money
to
to
give
to
sort
of
older.
A
Almost
that's
the
way,
I'm
looking
for
obsolete
forms
of
of
agriculture
and
aquaculture
and
sponging's
one
of
them,
so
it
would
check
their
boxes.
So
this
image
and
the
idea
of
perhaps
adding
an
educational
component
inside
the
library
that
would
you
know
comprise
you
know
you
know.
Maybe
a
multimedia
presentation
on
you
know
the
history
of
sponging,
the
challenges
it
faces
with
the
red
tide
in
the
40s
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
it
would
be.
A
G
G
I'm
I've
with
the
with
the
bahamian
splendor
project.
I
I've
always
said
that
we
need
more
money
for
that
you
know
and
and
that
we
did
some
other
projects
that
might
have
drained
money
from
that
project
and-
and
I
think
that
whatever,
if
we
go
ahead
with
this
saffron
avenue
project,
we
need
as
much
money
as
we
can
get
for
that,
and
I
would
I
would
have
no
problem
with
this
if
it.
If
the
funding
came
from
somewhere
else,
all.
B
G
I'm
sort
of
standing
on
the
fact
that
if
we
we
want
to
do
a
signature
piece,
we
want
to
do
it
to
where
we
establish
some
precedent
for
this
committee
being
proactive
in
the
city,
not
reactive.
I
you
know
well.
G
It
is,
I
think,
but
like
okay
semantics,
the
semantics,
I
mean
the
example
of
our
being
able
to
propose
something.
That's
not
in
anybody's
mind
really
and
to
you
know
that
is,
is
establishing
another
precedent
for
this
committee
to
make
suggestions
to
the
city
that
they
hadn't
thought
of
before.
Well,.
G
Done
original
projects
already,
and
that's
that's
really
good,
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
good
good
thing,
so
I'm
just
yeah,
I'm
I'm
just
saying
that
I'm
I'm
pretty
much
interested
in.
If
we
do
the
safford
pride,
I
don't
know
whether
we're
going
to
do
it
or
not,
but
if
we
do
do
it,
I'd
really
like
to
see
us
put
a
lot
of
attention
into
that,
and
this
to
me
takes
away
from
it.
I
have
no
problem
with
it
being
at
the
library.
This
piece.
G
We
don't
have
a
funding
problem,
then
that's
fine!
I
mean
I
don't
find
aesthetically.
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
it,
except
that
it
is
a
pretty
standard
theme.
We
got
one
on
the
side
of
the
of
a
building
over
here.
That's
pretty
much
like
that,
except
we're
not
seeing
underwater.
But
it's
it's
well.
A
G
B
A
C
You
know
I've
reached
out
to
her
via
email
and
also
by
phone,
and
she
tells
you
know
she
told
me
that
she's
going
to
go
ahead
and
respond.
You
know
I
told
her
when
the
meeting
was-
and
I
received
nothing
I
reached
out
again
yesterday,
but
I
have
not
heard
from
her.
So
if
you
would
like
to
take
it
off
the
agenda,
I.
E
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that
this
is
her
second
strike,
and
you
know
I
I
I
don't
think
it's
in
our
purview
to
be
chasing
people
down.
Okay
and
speaking
of
the
storm
drains.
Did
we
get
anything
from
the
girl
scout
troupe?
The
girl.
C
Scout
troupe
is,
they
have
a
real
busy
april
and
she
is
going
to
come
with
their
proposal
to
the
may
meeting.
Oh
excuse
me.
A
A
No
just
speak
to
me
tell
me:
I
picked
you
up
because
I'm
hoping
you
have
news
for
me.
C
Do
you
need
to
vote
to
take
sasha
michelle
sasha
off
of
the
agenda
or
well.
A
A
Okay,
our
wonderful
cra
production,
art.
A
Okay,
oh
no!
This
was
the
the
statues.
D
C
Yeah,
no,
I
just
okay
location
approval.
Okay,
you've
done
that,
but
I
left
it
on
because
if
there
was
any
additional
new.
A
C
A
C
Have
this
in
your
packets?
Just
so,
if
you
could
save
the
date,
if
you're
interested,
it's
gonna,
be
a
free
community
event.
I've
been
wanting
to
do
this
for
two
years
now
and
covet
has
always
prevented
it.
You
can't
really
have
a
health
event
when
you're
in
a
pandemic
we're
finally
going
to
move
forward
with
it,
and
it's
going
to
be
very
exciting.
F
C
Know
because
we'll
have
all
kinds
of
informational
banners
around
how
dance
affects
you,
how
you
know
playing
a
musical
instrument
affects
you,
how
you
know,
participating
and
so
we'll
have
some
demonstrations
yoga
different.
Also,
the
tarpon
arts
art
associates,
tarpon
springs,
art
association
is
going
to
be
there,
the
garden
club's
going
to
be
there.
So
a
lot
of
local
community
groups
are
gonna.
You
know,
participate
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
really
fun
event
for
the
community
to
come
together
and
and
just
celebrate.
A
C
Actually
he's
chief
of
staff
now
a
chief
of
staff,
so,
yes,
he
is
a
very
accomplished
musician
and
I
have
on
good
account
that
he
may
be
bringing
some
additional
medical
professionals
that
are
also
musicians
and
singers.
So
okay
could
be
very
interesting
and
that's
at
10
o'clock.
So
if
you
want
to
catch
dr
longley.
A
C
C
A
A
Provide
any
handouts
or
presentations
our
next
regular
meeting
is
wednesday
may
11th.
That
will
be
the
day
after
my
entertainment
gig
at
the
board
of
commissioners
meetings
at
2
p.m,
and
we
are
adjourned
at
3
37
p.m.
Can
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
some
move?
Okay.
Second,
all
in
favor,
okay,
adjourn
to
3
37
pm.