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A
B
D
D
We
have
a
new
member
with
us
today,
Sonya
McGrath
Sonia.
Would
you
like
to
give
a
little
brief
overview
of
your
artistic
accomplishments?
Yeah.
B
Sure
so
my
husband
and
I
we've
been
living
in
Tarpon
Springs
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
about
two
years
ago,
I
left
a
successful
corporate
career
behind
and
decided
to
pursue
my
love
for
painting
I'm
a
canvas
artist.
My
medium
is
Clay
chalk
paint
which
always
catches
people
by
surprise,
because
nobody
does
that
well,
artists.
The
furniture
painting
artists
are
also
doing
that
now.
E
F
F
G
D
E
H
I
thought
that
during
the
discussion
under
new
business,
when
we
were
talking
about
a
public
art
plan,
that
we
brought
up
the
proposal
to
have
workshops
and
that
we
had
asked
Diane
to
see
if
she
could
facilitate
that,
but
my
memory
may
be
completely
at
fault
and
it
variance
with
reality.
It
sometimes
is.
A
G
Have
not
got
a
date
at
present
for
a
workshop,
but
I
will
definitely
get
that
to
you
all.
A
It
does
mention
that
in
here
am
I
reading
that
wrong.
There
I
wasn't
here,
but
it
does
say
this.
H
G
So,
are
you
advising
that
wheel
at
this
Workshop
will
be
revising
the
master
plan.
D
G
A
A
D
H
That
would
appear
to
be
correct.
Yes,
I.
E
D
H
D
Right
so
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes
as
submitted,
say
aye.
H
D
I
guess
that
was
unanimous:
hi
Stephen,
hello,
there.
Okay,
our
artists
for
the
black
heritage
project,
Stephen
Oliver,
has
just
entered
the
room.
Thank
you
Stephen
and
you.
Your
timing
is
impeccable,
because
the
next
agenda
item
is
the
black
heritage
project
quickly.
I
I
The
committee
did
I
think
a
great
job
in
terms
of
that
whole
Community
aspect
and
building
up
there's
a
lot
of
leg
work,
as
you
all
know,
to
to
get
the
project
going
and
the
site
has
been
a
little
bit
nebulous,
but
I
believe
that
the
process
is
leading
Us
in
the
right
direction
and,
along
the
way,
I
think
we've
gathered
good
information
that
can
be
useful.
What
I
did
was
I
kind
of
after
the
last
meeting.
I
I
think
it
was
a
smart
thing
to
try
to
build
more
consensus,
I
think
it's
the
time
to
build
a
consensus
of
what's
happening.
It's
just
it's
stretching
all
of
it,
but
it's
good
to
get
the
consensus.
So
the
idea
that
there's
not
a
split
vote
on
the
Commissioners
is
good
and
and
the
process
I
mean
that
night
I
also
spoke
to
Tina.
Who
was
there
a
couple?
Other
people
and
then
I
sat
back
and
I
thought
about
it,
and
everyone
wanted
visibility,
which
is
a
good
thing.
I
I
Just
let
me
just
go
and
Survey
the
whole
street
that'll
all
know
right
and
I
Revisited
that,
along
with
Athens
Avenue,
which
I
had
was
my
first
thought
and
I
kind
of
looked
at
it
all
over
again,
with
kind
of
fresh
eyes
and
I
also
realized
I
kind
of
needed
to.
In
order
to
accommodate
this
sculpture,
better
I
actually
needed
to
back
up
and
rethink.
I
It
still
got
all
the
elements
in
it
and
I
want
to
talk
about
that
too,
because
that's
really
important
to
remember,
because
there's
an
incentive
to
having
this
finish
there,
but
essentially
I
figured
a
smaller
footprint,
makes
it
much
easier
to
do
this
in
free
sites
that
I
looked
at
the
original
one
between
the
trees,
because
when
I
went
back
there
you
had
concerns
about
people
in
the
driveway,
there's
some
legitimacy
there
and
then
viewing
from
the
street
so
I.
I
You
know
when
I
looked
back
there
and
I
went
back
with
a
shovel
last
week.
I
said
you
know.
A
smaller
footprint
would
actually
be
better
in
precaution
wise
with
the
roots
of
those
trees.
Mind
you!
If
it
does
somehow
go
there,
I
just
measured
it.
That's
the
widest
median.
That's
the
trolley!
Stop
right!
I'm
going
to
work
my
way
up
the
street,
that
is
the
widest
area
in
the
street.
It's
33
feet
wide
I,
just
measured
it
33
yeah
33
feet
wide
versus
22
further
down
the
road.
I
So
the
idea
of
the
hazard
there's
a
little
legitimacy,
but
the
fact
that
the
matter
is
it's,
it's
there's
a
there's
ability
to
pass
a
little
bit
there
and
there's
I,
don't
think
it's
as
bad
as
when
I
looked
at
Athens,
which
I
thought
was
a
great
Vista
down
the
street.
That's
the
next!
When
I
went
there
and
looked
at
it
technically
putting
my
architect's
hat
on
and
I
saw
the
drainage
infrastructure
going
underneath
there
Tina
actually
told
me
that
it's
pretty
and
I
understood
one.
I
She
said:
that's
why
that's
there,
because
it's
a
very
flood
prone
area,
but
you
got
a
lot
of
electrical
infrastructure,
including
a
big
Transformer.
That's
hidden
in
there
there's
three
potholes
there's
there's
parking
that
inadvertently
kind
of
happens
along
that
curb
Anastasia
who
actually
met
him
last
week
and
and
there's
access
to
those
sponge
boats
right,
working
Waterfront
as
Tina
pointed
out.
So
we
want
to
try
to
allow
them
to
to
service
their
boats
and
also
lay
out
their
sponges.
Things
happen,
like
even
vessels
happen.
I
So
all
that
was
soaking
all
that
in
so
anyway,
when
I
got
to
Athens
and
really
looked
at
it.
I
said
you
know
what
there's
this
little
piece
of
paper,
that's
kind
of
like
it's,
it's
it's
it's
it's
cock-it,
but
45
degrees.
It's
rotated!
I
I
could
squeeze
it
there,
but
it's
not
ideal,
because
there's
a
hydrant
about
four
or
five
feet
about
four
feet
away:
I
mean
I'm,
afraid
that
like
say
anything
happens
and
the
infrastructure
happened
has
to
be
dealt
with
there
or
the
fire
department
or
the
sponge
oats
I'm
getting
in
the
way
of
somebody
and
and
costing
maybe
do
we
have
to
take
move
the
thing
around
and
that's
that's
costly,
so
moving
along
to
the
next
site,
which
was
the
one
I
saw
a
while
ago,
and
it's
it's
west
of
the
sponge
Dock,
the
diver
sculpture
by
50
feet
actually
and
it's
east
of
the
ma,
the
the
historic
marker
by
60
feet.
I
I
It's
almost
equal
distance
between
the
both
historic
sponge
divers
monuments
doesn't
challenge
the
scale
as
much
and
so
I
thought
that
was
ideal
and
then
then
there's
a
light
pole
with
electric
and
the
Tarpon
Springs
public
art
committee,
Banner
on
it
right
there
and
it's
across
from
the
sponge
extension
like
you
know
so.
I
I
start
to
you
know,
review
all
this
and
and
and
and
think
about
well,
if
you've
got
people
visiting
and
that's
kind
of
the
heart
of
the
district
and
they
are
having
that
whole
experience,
they
literally
have
all
those
three
things
lined
up
and
there's
enough
breathing
space
between.
So
they
can
process
plus
they're
crossing
the
sponge
Exchange.
In
addition
to
that,
Diane
had
mentioned
that
marketing
you
know
boost
so
I
think
you
could
still
do
that
and
then
you
kind
of
it's
like
a
win-win.
I
You
get
like
the
the
on
the
ground,
pedestrian
benefit
and
you
get
the
marketing
so
anyway,
that
was
my
real
side
of
choice.
When
I
looked
at
it
just
objectively
and
just
quickly
about
the
sculpture,
the
and
I
remember
the
call
was
always
about
the
intent
to
have
the
the
Rapport
address
between
the
Greek
and
the
Bahamian
and
Afro-American.
You.
E
I
Sponge
divers
so
there's
the
panel.
Basically,
all
the
elements
are
still
in
this
sculpture,
it's
seen
as
the
run
in
the
round
versus
passing
through
and
they're
kind
of,
like
it's
symmetrical
in
a
fun
fun
way.
Where
you're
going
to
see
references
and
cross
references,
you're
going
to
see
nobody
I
mean
along
the
whole
sponge
like
there's
nothing.
That
shows
anything
that
looks
like
what
a
sponge
live.
I
Sponge
looks
like
unless
you
go
into
the
pity
inside
the
exhibit
somewhere,
so
the
colorful
that
colorfulness
is
going
to
be
in
there
I
want
to
incorporate
still
topographic
maps
of
the
water.
You
know
again
something
that's
not
necessarily
thought
of
maps
of
the
Town.
Some
of
those
are
older
and
then,
of
course,
vintage
photographs
which
include
the
Greek
and
and
African-American
sponges.
I
So
the
whole
idea
emphasized
that
connection
and
build
on
the
history
so
and
because
we
have
the
link
to
Union
Academy
that
enables
that
flushing
out
of
more
of
the
you
know,
I
think
in
the
way
its
Fate
has
turned
out
to
be
like
my
Greek
cup
of
coffee,
good,
that's
a
good
fortune
at
the
end
bomb.
That's
what
I
think
in
the
ends
so
anyway,
I've
I've
in
the
process
of
drawing
up
that
new
rendition
just
detailing
it
now
and
I.
I
Imagine
if
you
want
me
to
do
any
of
you
know
adjustments
to
what
I
sent
you
and
Diane
I
don't
know
if
everyone's
seen
it
yet
I
can
tweak
it
in
advance
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
meeting,
and
you
know
and
I
think
the
week.
I
I
really
think
that
that's
that's
some
of
the
benefit
I
think
there's
more
as
we
get
this
done
and
I
think
it's
a
great
stat
like
great
move
in
the
right
direction
for
Tarpon
and
there's
a
lot
more.
That
I've
already
learned
from
being
here
that
can.
D
Be
built
around
it,
so
I
guess
Graham
just
found
a
Google
photo
of
the
yeah.
D
I
I
thought
that
the
the
concern
about
the
trolley
stop
with
that
Visual
and
the
distraction
might
actually
be
worse
than
that,
because
there's
so
much
going,
there's
two
crosswalks
on
an
intersection
down
the
way.
There's
a
crosswalk
which
it
just
is
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
sponge
diver.
But
there
isn't
that
same
thing.
I
Plus
I
can
push
it
back
about
five
six
feet,
less
need
for
Ballers
and
the
sidewalk
is
really
wide
and
by
putting
it
that
far
back
and
not
further
is
all
the
room
is
still
enabled
there
for
the
trucks
to
pass
through
and
to
lay
out
the
sponges.
So
that's
kind
of
how
I
looked
at
it.
You
know
it's
like
when
you
look
at
the
street
and
it's
bumped
back
for
parking
a
little
bit.
I
It's
kind
of
like
it's
just
it's
basically
about
10
feet
in
from
that
in
that
same
Lane
versus
further
back,
because
I
actually
did
see
the
sponges
laid
out
in
the
tourist
taking
pictures
and
I
talked
to
one
of
the
sponge
boat
operators,
and
so
yeah
and
I
talked
to
Tina
about
that.
So
right
that
taking
all
into
consideration
that
was
my
best
recommendation.
D
Okay,
Graham,
do
you
have
any
comments.
H
Well,
so,
if
you're
standing
outside
the
sponge
exchange
looking
across
the
street
at
the
diver
statue
to
to
the
left,
is
the
walkway.
H
Little
there's
a
well
there's
the
left
so
you're
talking
about
either
between
the
diver
and
the
light
post
to
the
left
or
the
diaper
and
the
light
post
to
the
right,
which
one.
I
Then
there's
light
posters
two
sets
yes
and
one
set
on
the.
What
is
the
east
side
in
the
middle
of
that
is
the
sponge
sponger
bike
rack
the
small
scale
that
there's
a
bike
rack
to
the
West
is
where
I'm
talking
about
so
it's
actually
not
between
the
diver
and
the
post.
It's
between
two
posts.
It's
a
it's
a
little
further
off
from
now.
H
You're
to
the
east
of
the
so,
if
you're,
the
east
of
the
diver
and
and
closer
to
the
bike,
racks
well,.
I
F
I
think
when
I
first
came
on
this
project
was
already
sort
of
in
the
book.
Somehow
not
defined
like
it
is,
but
I
was
really
excited
about
it
because
of
the
the
history
I
like
history
and
and
the
history
of
Tarpon
Springs
I
think
is,
is
really
kind
of
fascinating.
It's
it's
much
more
complex
than
a
lot
of
people,
think
it
is
and
I
when
I
thought
about
this
project.
F
Early
on
my
my
basic
response
was:
it
needs
to
be
right
there
with
the
Greek
sponge
diver,
and
it
needs
to
be
there
to
somehow
or
another
tell
the
story
of
Tarpon
Springs
or
not
tell
a
story,
but
help
tell
the
story
exactly
yeah
and
and
Steve's
work
is
a
Steven's.
Work
is
a
perfect
thing
because
it
you've
got
narrative
in
there.
F
You
got
a
lot
of
narrative
in
there
a
lot
of
Association
of
stuff
and
I
think
you
know,
basically,
when
I
thought
of
this
project,
where
you
are
seeing
it
now,
is
a
as
an
alternative
space
that
would
work
narrowed
down,
made
a
little
bit
taller,
maybe
be
a
a
you
know,
a
totem.
Almost
you
know
of
of
this
information,
a
information
kiosk
type.
F
They
see
it
as
information
in
a
lot
of
respects,
but
I
think
it's
in
the
perfect
place,
I
mean
it's
the
place,
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
in
and
in
my
experience
with
doing
these
things
one
because
because
it's
in
context
with
the
image
of
of
what
we
think
of
what
tourists
think
of
Tarpon
Springs
a
Greek
sponge
fishing
Village-
and
this
is
it's
in
context
there
and-
and
you
know
this
is
saying
also
you
know,
there's
this
history
and
it's
right
there-
it
it
if
it's
if
it's
somewhere
else,
it's
not
going
to
have
the
visual
context
that
people
are
going
to
bring
to
it
and
the
other
thing
that
that
I
I
looked
at
very
much
in
the
relationship.
F
I
have
the
the
installation
of
it.
The
engineering
going
on
and
putting
this
in
this
place.
It's
already
concrete,
there's
no
infrastructure
underneath
it
I
mean
yes,
it
does
interfere
a
little
bit
with
with
the
working
Port.
But
then
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
I
mean.
Was
this
consideration
given
when
they
put
the
bike
rack
in
you.
E
F
F
Think
that
sends
the
wrong
message
about
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
black
Heritage
sculpture
is
putting
it
in
the
back
of
something
so
I
think
it
needs
to
be
up
front,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
the
greatest
thing.
I
can
see
it
with
a
whole
bunch
of
sponges
piled
around
it,
probably
like
they
do
all
the
other
things
you
know
when
they,
when
they
unload
their
their
sponge
stuff,
so
I
mean
I.
I,
see
it
as
as,
basically
a
a
boring
bolt
kind
of
in
installation.
F
I
mean
you're
on
an
already
concrete
pathway.
You
you
know,
so
you
could
make
a
planks
or
it
could
be
flush,
I
mean
it
could
be
up
higher
and
you
can
build
a
blocked
plank
or
a
pedestal
and
and
put
it
on
or
it
could
be
flush
with
the
with
the
the
sidewalk
itself,
but
because
I
think
that's
a
perfect
location
and
when
I
first
heard
of
this
project,
that's
exactly
where
I
saw
it
big.
A
Ger
I'm
gonna
have
a
lot
of
comments,
obviously,
because
I'm
the
biggest
stakeholder
down
there,
the
one
with
the
most
the
you
know,
history
down
there
I
like
what
you're
saying
conceptually
about
the
visibility
of
it
practically
because
it's
the
working
Waterfront,
because
there's
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
and
mainly
because
we
are
now
have
put
in
motion
the
city
has
hired
a
consulting
firm
to
create
a
vision
plan
for
the
Sponge
Docks
area.
A
E
A
Without
actually
going
down
there
and
physically
sitting
standing
at
that
spot,
I
would
have
a
hard
time
approving
anything
on
the
main
dock
at
all.
I,
don't
even
like
the
bike
racks
down
there.
Sorry
I
I
think
it's
too
much
disruption
of
the
working
Waterfront
and
the
foot
traffic
and
I
would
just
have
to
before
I
would
I
would
be
able
to
nod
my
head.
Yes
to
anything,
I
would
have
to
physically
stand
down
there
and
and
feel
the
space,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
A
I
mean
that's
where
I'm
from
right
and
and
I
have
a
lot
of
stakes
down
there
as
well.
So
I
have
concerns
over
over
anything
being
placed,
not
that
particular
sculpture,
anything
being
placed
anything
else
being
placed
down
there
without
the
vision
plan
and
also
without
like
physically
seeing
what
kind
of
disruption
it
would
cause.
A
I
do
I
mean
I
do
agree.
The
visibility
of
it
is
important.
I
have
not
I,
don't
know
what
the
Athens
Street
site
is.
I
have
I
never
saw
that.
A
D
A
I
know
what
we
were
originally
talking
about
in
the
or
the
second,
not
the
first,
because
the
first
was
you
know
and
I
agree.
That
was
possibly
you
know
too
tucked
away
so,
like
I
said,
I
would
have
to
just
physically
be
down
there
to
see
what
that's
all
about.
I
I
think
that's
been
part
of
the
reservations
in
the
back
and
forth
that
not
everybody
has
been
on
the
same
page
because
they
haven't
been
seen
everything
or
been
down
there
and
I.
Quite
frankly,
I
hadn't
been
down
there
initially
because
I
first,
we
were
saying
but
we're
just
gonna.
I
That
was
the
site
choose
something
in
a
marina,
but
anyway,
this
is
kind
of
where
the
process
has
led
and
I
will
address
the
plan,
because
there's
actually
three
things
and
I'll
be
quick
about
this,
but
in
terms
of
a
larger
Vision.
One
of
them
is
that
plan
and
Tina
mentioned
it
to
me
and
I
had
coffee
with
her
after
the
last
meeting,
and
we
talked
at
length
about
it
and
I
agree
with
her
matter
of
fact.
I
think
the
scale
of
the
place
is
beautiful.
I
E
I
This
is
like
something
amazing,
but
anyway
she
mentioned
that
plan.
She
mentioned
that
it
hadn't
been
accepted,
and
then
it
was
now
so
now
they're
working
on
that
now.
That's
also
my
background
in
planning
and
architecture
and
stuff,
like
that,
so
I
always
have
that
other
other
side.
Looking
looking
at
things,
how
I
look
at
this
is
that
on
one
side,
it's
important
enough
to
have
there
on
a
smaller
footprint.
I
So
that's
a
kind
of
compromise,
because
Tina
mentioned
the
tables
to
me-
and
he
says
like
oh
but
I
said,
but
there's
got
to
be
something
I
mean
this
is
so
ideal.
The
other
thing
is
she
mentioned
that
plan.
That
was
good.
The
Consulting
was
maybe
aimed
at
a
real
I.
I,
said
dear,
is
right
right
for
a
relaunch.
I
If
you
can
see
this
place,
help
people
improve
the
facades
and
encouraged
it
and
attract
more
business,
it's
all
win-win,
and
then
you
can
literally
do
a
relaunch
if
you
got
the
history
other
layer
of
history,
in
that
it's
all
the
better
and
then
so.
Here
comes
the
next
pieces,
and
this
is
looking
way
out,
but
I'm
saying
it
only
because
you
raised
that.
So
that's
the
beginning,
step
with
the
sculpture
and
then
the
first
is
plan
as
part
of
a
relaunch.
I
In
my
mind,
the
second
one
is
is
that
because
this
is
two
sculptures
1.6
or
seven
or
almost
two
miles
apart
now,
there
was
always
a
need
to
link.
So
we
have
that
link.
We
have
a
grant
already
approved
and
a
first
thing
in
the
black
community.
They
went
to
a
surveying
process
when
you
get
the
sculpture
in
place.
The
two
and
you
write
more
grants,
and
you
say:
look
what
we're
doing.
We've
got
all
these
layers
of
incredible
stuff.
Going
on
in
Tarpon,
we
get
the
Greek
history.
I
We've
got
the
first,
what
Pinellas
count?
First
town,
Pinellas
County,
all
the
things
you
want
to
write.
It
adds
in
an
hour
to
just
build
on
so
net.
You
could
raise
your
your
funds
to
do
black
history
markers
you
can
do
it
to
a
call
for
more
art.
You
can
do
it
in
terms
of
bike
path.
Improvements
I
mean
because
there's
all
these
overlaying
great,
this
is
Tarpon,
has
incredible
potential.
I
That's
what
I've
seen
since
I've
been
here.
One
last
piece
is
the
quick
and
when
I
met
with
the
planner
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
her
that
day,
I
went
and
surveyed
did
my
work,
but
I
also
surveyed
the
city
and
I
saw
a
huge
opportunity
healing
between
the
Articles
I
read
over
historically
from
about
70
years,
I
saw
a
huge
opportunity
for
healing
addressing
planning.
So
that's
the
kind
of
way
I
look
at
it,
so
I
I
think
it's
like
win-win-win.
I
We
just
have
to
get
through
this
and
again
just
for
a
practical
matter
when
I
looked
at,
that
was
the
only
place
where
I
felt,
like
the
trucks
don't
have
to
be
impeded.
They
can
go
around
the
back
if
that,
if
there's
no
on-street
parking
for
a
festival
or
something
then
go
around
that
way,
unlike
with
Athens,
it's
tight,
they
kind
of
have
to
go
around
and
almost
turn
around
and
probably
do
some
ue's.
It's
like.
What's
that,
what's
the
chance
we're
going
to
have
more
of
an
issue
with
that?
I
D
The
one
thing
too
I
want
to
you
know
bring
up.
Is
you
know
in
conversations
with
Mark
about
this,
because.
E
D
Been
instrumental
in
you
know
giving
us
feedback
yeah
if
the
sculpture
is
placed
and
over
the
course
of
time
it
doesn't
seem
to
work
out,
for
whatever
reasons
it
can
be
moved.
So
you
know
keep
that
in
mind.
You
know
if,
if
something
you.
B
D
Stephen
has
a
you
know,
a
recommended,
you
know,
location
for
it
and
it
gets
approved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
it's
installed
and
certain
issues
develop
around
it.
It
can
be
moved.
D
So
so
I
guess
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
go
back
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
at.
I
D
Right
two
weeks
from
today,
right
so
for
Steve
and
we're
gonna
have
to
ask
you
for
another
computerized
projection
of
of
the
sculpture
and.
I
D
Right
Diane.
H
G
D
So
we'll
take
a
look
at
those
and
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
you
know:
rework
something
you
know
giving
that
location.
You
know
like
prioritize
it.
Perhaps
oh.
I
Yeah,
there's
there
there's
a
there's
a
write-up,
and
then
there
was
a
second
email
with
a
whole
bunch
of
six
or
six
or
seven
images,
or
something
like
that.
E
G
So
and
it'd
be
nice,
if
you
all,
whoever
is
available
to
go
to
that
meeting.
E
A
I
Yeah,
there's
a
there's,
a
relationship
to
that
there's,
a
visual
for
all
three
places,
I
describe
and
then
there's
also
like
a
a
site
plan.
I
took
it
I
used
Google
on
my
phone
to
do
a
site
plan
and
Mark
it
up,
and
and
so
so
you
can,
you
know,
look
at
the
image
read
The
Narrative
it
has.
The
initial
Marina
site
has
the
Athens
and
then
has
the
last
one.
I
just
described
that
I.
A
A
teener
section
with
okay,
but
where
would
that
be
because
basically
you're
coming
down
Athens.
A
I
That's,
oh
I,
know
property,
that's
right,
yeah
I!
So
as
long
as
you
know,
I
knew
I
knew
that
I
knew
that
too
yeah
yeah
yeah
and
that's
it
then.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
the
commissioner
once
sent
us
a
map
and
that
has
had
it
demarcated,
yeah,
so
I
I
kind
of
knew
it
just
by
eyeballing
it
because
I
saw
the
tents
and
things
and
then
the
entrance
on
the
side
right.
A
C
G
I
You
know
I'm
I'm
working
on
these
simultaneously
and
my
intent
is
actually
especially
with
the
resin
I'm,
trying
to
order
that
together.
So
it's
helpful
to
have
you
know:
I
can
still
work
on
the
graphics,
it's
just
the
final
size
and
all
stuff
like
that.
It's
best
to
order
and
order
together.
If
I
can.
D
By
the
way,
I
had
a
meeting
in
the
mayor's
office
with
Georgia
Lucas,
who
is
Annie,
dabs's
daughter
and
you
know,
I
raised
the
possibility
of
trying
to
get
that
Treasure
Trove
of
images
and
papers
that
Annie
has
digitized.
So
you
know
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
pursue
that
and
maybe
we
could
get
you
know
some
kids
from
SPC
or
Tarpon
high.
If
they
have
a
you
know,
community
service
project
they
had
to
do.
I
E
I
D
All
right,
okay,
so
moving
on
here,
the
Riverside
field,
mural
project,
Diane,
I,
guess:
we've
got
nothing
again.
No.
G
A
G
E
C
G
D
A
while
ago,
when
it
it
came
up
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
do
the
match
for
the
CRA
grants,
I
asked
some
of
the
more
prominent
mural
artists
in
Tarpon
Springs,
what
they
charge
and
that's
well
within
their
price
range.
Okay.
Well
within
so
I
mean
they
were
talking
about
500,
you
know,
and
so
this
is
this,
it
would
be
two
thousand
dollars
to.
D
B
D
B
Put
my
feelers
ask
because
on
Facebook
I
think
it's
the
top
in
Springs
Community
Facebook
page
I
could
have
sworn
I
saw
somebody
advertised
something
about
doing
murals.
B
D
You
know
the
thing
that
I
find
amazing.
You
know:
I
belong
to
two
different
organizations
that
do
fundraiser
for
academic
scholarships
and
they
literally
have
to
go
out
and
beat
the
bushes
to
get
kids
to
fill
out.
This
simple
application
for
a
scholarship,
oh
I,
know
right,
it's
crazy!
It's
you
know,
like
you
know,
when
my
son
was
applying
to
colleges
I,
would
you
know
I'd
go
out
and
find
every
little
weird
scholarship
that
he
might
qualify.
A
H
H
D
H
H
Right
but
yeah
does.
D
D
D
A
H
E
E
A
Like
the
particular
design
so
yeah,
maybe
you
just
open
making
it
a
little
bit
wider.
Okay,.
D
H
Oh
okay,
make
that
motion.
D
D
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
go
down
the
line
here
and
people
can
indicate
you
know
when
they're
available
or
not
okay,
I
guess
I'll
start
April.
19Th
is
not
good.
The
20th
for
me
is
okay.
After
two
o'clock.
H
E
D
G
It
is
Dawn
is
not
available
on
that
date,
but
I
don't
know
about
Nick,
so
I'll,
just
let
him
know
so
Friday
the
21st
they
get
for
not
showing
up
what
time
there
you
go.
What
time
of
the
day,
do
you
want
to
plan
it
for.
G
G
I
D
D
Everyone,
okay
and
as
we
just
discussed
Sylvester,
the
cat
was
installed.
So
that's
done
any
comments
about
Sylvester.
D
It's
a
nice
little
combination
again
of
history
and
art:
okay,
Megan
you're,
up
developer
contributions,
I'm.
C
Putting
together
an
Excel
sheet
of
like
a
little
bit
more
detailed,
financials,
I'm,
sorry
it's
on
the
printer
in
my
office,
you
will
be
beaten,
so
I
wanted
to
update
you
so
right
now
the
fund
balance
is
at
181.97.
Okay,
there
are
no
current
project
updates.
E
C
Wanted
to
update
you
all
on
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
Joan
had
asked
about,
and
this
is
all
going
to
be
in
the
details
of
what
I
sort
of
have
project
income
as
well
as
like
our
payments
for
things
that
we've
put
through
Pat
is
checking
on
Manatee
Village
again,
I
hadn't
had
a
response
on
that.
One
sponge
City
Brewing
is
not
applicable.
It
is
under
one
million
dollars,
The
Eagle,
Ridge,
Housing
Authority
was
affordable.
Housing
so
does
not
qualify
for
a
contribution.
C
All
of
these
have
contributions,
starting
in
January
February
of
2022
Eagle
Creek
subdivision
was
13
365
dollars.
March
of
2022
is
Big
Dan's,
Car
Wash,
fifteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
four
dollars
and
13
cents.
Also
March
2022,
furman's,
Volvo,
24
474.73.
C
And
then
both
in
June
of
2022
is
the
North
Lake
estate
subdivision
at
thirteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
and
the
take
five
car
wash
at
ten
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
and
then
finally,
in
2022
was
Flagship
Bank,
seven
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
and
36
Cents
and
again
she's
checking
on
Manatee
Village
at
this
moment
and
then
so.
We're
in
2023
and
I.
Don't
have
anything
okay.
D
H
Well,
not
that
are
being
snuck
in
under
the
radar,
but
I
noticed
that
they
have
broken
ground
on
one
of
the
projects,
so
I'm
not
sure
whether
it's
the
Furman
or
one
of
the
car
washes
on
19..
Yes,.
F
I
know
I,
know,
Wanamaker
and
and
and
hoppener
together
on
design
redesigning.
That
thing
is
that.
D
Because
I
know
that
they're
going
to
you
know
the
clerk's
office
is
being
assessed,
so
I
would
assume
the
fire
department
is
too
probably.
E
E
H
F
F
That
that's
fine,
but
the
the
issues
we're
having
around
the
the
docks.
Let's.
E
F
Instance,
I
mean
it's:
it's
helpful
in
these
kind
of
situations
when
the
artist
has
a
known
entity,
so
they
can
go
in
there
and
deal
with
the
infrastructure
right.
They
can
deal
with
the
social
stuff
they
can.
They
can
do
the
what's
called
civil
engineering
around
the
project,
as
opposed
to
the
physical
engineering.
F
So
you
know-
and
you
know-
and
it
puts
the
artist
quite
often
if
they
have
to
keep
changing,
keep
up
to
to
redesign
right
to
fit
into
a
place.
Oh
that's
too
big.
No,
it's
too
small!
No
we're
going
to
put
something
there.
You
know
it
it
kind
of
is,
is
I!
F
Think
it's
a
learning
point
for
us,
I
mean
this
is
a
big
project
right
and
hopefully
there's
more
big
projects
that
come
along
in
a
way
and
we
need
not
just
not
just
the
physical
space
but
the
the
historical,
the
emotional
space.
The
social
space
needs
to
be
worked
out.
I
I
think
it's
great
up
there
and
and
Martin
Luther,
King
and
and.
E
F
D
F
F
And
there
are
ways
in
which
it
could
be
brought
together.
More
I
mean
there's
I
noticed,
there's
a
sign
here
on
on
Tarpon
Avenue
and
it
says
Sponge
Docks
that
way
right
and
then
you
go
down.
Yeah
I
think
it's
on
sapper
right!
You
go
down,
Stafford,
there's
no
more
signs!
E
F
F
F
C
E
F
D
Right
and
then
well
that
those
that
site
at
by
the
across
from
the
dog
park
is
back
in
play.
Yeah.
H
D
Oh
I
spoke
to
lucianne
and
we
actually
had
lunch
with
Shelly
Weintraub,
whose
husband,
Lee
Williams
Weintraub,
is
a
very
well-known
landscape,
architect,
which
we
had
gotten
on
board
when
this
thing
first
came
around,
so
it's
not
dead.
It's
it's
kind
of
you
know
sort
of
waiting
in
the
wings
to
see.
If
we
can,
you
know
kick-start
it
again,
but
Sonia.
D
The
the
concept
was
to
do
a
landscape
piece
like
a
respite
area
yeah
along
the
bike
trail-
and
you
know
we
looked
at
two
locations
and
one
of
the
problems
is
and
Robert
alluded
to.
It
perfectly
is
that
something
could
be
perfect
artist
artistically
and
historically,
but
not
politically,
you
know.
A
lot
of
the
bike.
Trail
is
owned
by
the
county,
so
it's
kind
of
off
limits.
B
D
G
What
Robert
said
was
really
key.
Is
that
when
you
create,
when
you
come
up
with
a
project,
you
need
to
get
it
vetted
through
the
Departments
for
the
As
for
as
far
as
the
location
goes
first
before
going
through.
All
you
know,
picking
an
artist
and
everything
like
that.
It's
like
this
is
the
location
or
whatever,
but
make
that
an
integral
part
of
the
step
on
the
front
end.
You
know
just
so
we
don't
run
into
this.
You
know
issue
again,
you
know
part
of
the.
D
Problem
is
that
you
know
the
you
know
the
concepts
for
the
use
of
that
kept
changing.
You
know
we
did.
We
thought
we
would
have
availability
for
that
landscape
project
and
then
it
evaporated.
You
know
for
pickle
bulk,
of
course.
Now
the
pickleball
courts
are
gone.
So
it's
kind
of
a
moving
Target.
You.
G
G
E
G
E
D
Right
the
goals-
and
this
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
about
the
vision
plan
for
the
docs
but
I-
think
we
should.
This
committee
should.
F
And
yeah,
so
is
this:
is
this
survey
thing?
Is
this
a
public
works
project
or
is
it
sort
of
like
the
the
the
the
sign
Gateway
that
we
had
to
approve
or
or
give
recommendations
to
now.
A
This
is
it's
just
it's.
This
initial
phase
is
just
a
vision
plan,
so
they're
going
to
you,
know,
they're
going
to
be
no
actual
work
done
with
the
first
phase
of
this.
With
the
with
this
plan,
that's
being
created,
it's
going
to
be
so
that
we're
not
piecemealing
things
together
down
there
and
just
plopping
stuff
here
and
there
so
that
there's
a
greater
plan
for
Place
making,
for
you
know
the
facades
to
bring
it
back,
to
which
you.
F
A
Well,
the
Greektown,
Heritage
and
preservation
Association
is
the
one
who
asked
for
this
to
happen
and
asked
for
the
budget
line.
Okay,
so
we
have
been
involved
in
you
know
getting
this.
E
A
And
and
so
then
the
process
went
through,
the
company
was
picked
and
now
the
meetings
will
begin
for
input.
Okay,
but
you
know
it
is
about
the
you
know:
the
Greek
Town
stakeholders
and
property
owners
and
residents
that
are
down
there.
You
know
to
have
a
voice
in
what's
going
to
happen
down
there,
because
there
has
to
be
a
balance
between
the
Heritage
and
progress
right.
E
A
And
and
so
because
in
the
past
everything
has
kind
of
been,
you
know.
Well,
let's
do
this
and
let's
put
some
planters
here:
let's
put
some
palm
trees
here,
let's
put
a
Gateway
here:
let's
do
this,
there's
no
greater
plan.
You
know
to
so
that
we
can
follow
something
and
know
what.
D
F
F
Get
mentioned
we
don't
get
listed,
and
yet
here
we
are,
you
know,
as
you
said,
I
mean
that
this
is
one
of
our
jobs.
Here
is
to
think
in
terms
of
the
whole
thing
and
to
do
a
to
do
a
vision
plan
without
the
the
public
art
committee
being
part
of
it
from
the
get-go
I.
You
know
it's.
It's
like
there's
a
lot
of
times
where
you
get
brought
in
at
the
end,
when
there's
nothing
left
right.
E
F
Nothing
left
what
about
planning
for
space.
I
mean
I
I,
remember
when
they
were
building
the
McCormick
Center
in
Chicago.
My
my
art
dealer
was
actually
in
Chicago
was
actually
very
involved
in
this.
Convince
them
convince
these
people
in
the
city,
the
city
hall,
everybody
to
build
spaces
based
on
the
art
that
was
going
to
go
in
it.
In
other
words,
the
artists
were
consulted
before
the
building
was.
F
E
E
F
F
Here's
the
space
over
here
or
you
know,
and
and
if
if
we
want
to
use
a
space,
that's
seemingly
not
being
used
or
what
we're
thinking
about
something
for
that.
But
we
don't
know
they're
thinking
about
something
for
that.
There's
no
pipeline
between
us
and
I
think
you
know
I
think
you
know
Tarpon
likes
to
think
of
itself
as
a
cultural
town,
and
it
should
be
I
mean
the
culture
that
goes
on
down
at
the
Docks.
F
It
goes
out
on
out
at
the
athletic
field,
should
be
the
same
level
of
importance
to
to
the
the
so.
D
No
agree
so
I
mean
you
know.
Very
often,
we've
been
told
what
we
can't
do
in
different
locations
around
the
city.
So
you
know
it
doesn't
give
us
any
insight
into
what
we
can
do
going
forward.
So
it's
hard
for
us
to
plan
or
solicit
artists
or
come
up
with
Concepts.
You
know
for
different.
You
know
installations
so
so
anyway,
I'll
have
to
maybe
send
an
email
to
Mark
about
you
know,
including
the
public
art
committee
and
division
planning.
H
Sorry
to
hop
on
the
workshop
thing
and
the
and
the
and
the
long-term
plan,
but
you
know
in
common
with
other
workshops
that
we've
had.
It
does
give
us
the
opportunity
to
ask
city
employees
and
others
that
are
representative
like,
for
instance,
the
the
the
Greek
Heritage
folks,
the
Historical
Society,
all
those
other
people
that
we
can,
if
we're
holding
a
series
of
workshops,
invite
them
to
come
and
talk
to
us
and
share
with
us
what
they
want
to
do
so
that
we
can
share
with
them
what
they.
H
D
Right
no
I
I
agree
with
you.
I
feel
the
same
way,
but
anyway,
all
right
so
Bieber.
B
E
E
E
D
D
The
black
heritage
project
was
going
to
be
down
at
the
end
of
the
marina
and
what
she
suggested
and
I'm
gonna,
throw
it
out,
for
you
is
to
create
a
walking
path.
In
other
words,
you
know
using
a
sponge
and
some
paint,
you
know
just
kind
of
like
follow
the
the
sponge
prints
that
would
guide
people
through
all
the
artwork.
You
know
in
different
parts
of
the
city,
you
know
I
spoke
to
Mark
about
it
before
the
meeting
and
it
can
be
done
very
cheaply.
D
H
I
think
it's
a
great
idea:
I
think
that
embedded
in
the
sponge
prints
could
be
those
marks
either
the
the
stacked
barcode,
type
things
or
or
the
the
other
marks
like
they
use
down
at
the
Dali
and
other.
H
Know
I
forget
the
the
technical
term
for
them,
but
we
could
embed
those
into
the
prints
and
have
the
ability
for
people
with
phones
to
listen
to
what
they're.
E
D
A
A
I
mean
they're,
just
not
not
never
were
put
anywhere
permanently.
They
were,
you
know,
handed
out
in
pamphlets
for
each
of
these
sites
to
give
out,
but
that
you
know
how
that
disappears.
So
I
think
we
could
do
a
much
better
job
of
right.
You
know
having
some
permanent
fixtures
where
people
could
follow
along
a
trail.
I
would
just
personally
because
people's
ideas,
sometimes
sound
good,
but
look
horrendous
right.
I
would
love
to
see
a
actual
like
make
us
a
sample
of
what
that
might
look
like.
Okay,
well,.
A
A
D
Would
I
I
kind
of
figured
it
would
start
at
the
visitors
information
center.
B
The
niads
and
again
I'm
lost
I
heard
somebody
say
that
they're
planning
doing
something
similar,
but
for
downtown
tarpon.
So
don't
you
think
it'll
be
a
good
idea
to
incorporate
the
dogs
as
well.
So
when
somebody
like
me,
is
well
I
mean
I've,
got
we've
got
visitors
here
this
weekend,
wouldn't
be
nice.
If
they
had
a
pamphlet
or
see
I
mean
everybody
works
on
their
cell
phones
and
we
just
incorporate
it's
okay,.
A
Right-
and
maybe
we
can
find
you
know,
look
at
that
Florida
stories
project
that
was
done
and
see.
You
know
how
to
incorporate
something
like
that.
But
again
you
know
I'm,
like
I,
just
I
think
you
know
that
larger
plan
before
we
start
adding
more
piecemeal
stuff
personally
I
would
prefer
before
the
docs
gets
anything
that
that
we
have
a
plan,
because
there
are
things
down
there
that
I
wish
weren't
there.
That.
E
A
D
B
Sorry,
but
also
the
one
in
downtown
the
one
that
they're
planning
for
downtown
top
and
I
think
it's
also
just
in
the
very
beginning
stages.
D
F
In
favor
of
any
visual
way
of
connecting
Tartan
Springs
interest
points
from
one
place
or
another
I
mean
I'm
in
favor
of
looking
at
all
those
possibilities
right
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
greatly
missing.
I
I
constantly
see
families
standing
on
the
corner
of
orange
and
North
plan
Alice
trying
to
figure
out
which
way
to
go
right.
E
E
F
Mean
we
got
we
got
to
somewhere
in
the
green
Swap
this
weekend
by
using
our
GPS
yeah,
and
so
so
it.
But
anyway
you
know.
I
any
kind
of
visual
thing
is.
Is
right,
it's
something
I'm
look
forward
to
that's,
that's
our
job,
our
business.
You
know
that
and
these
people
that
say
they're
going
to
do
that
without
telling
us
again.
We
should
have
the
power
to
say
no.
You
cannot
do
that
until
you
pass
it
by
us.
Yeah
I
mean
so
so
you
know
I.
D
G
F
E
F
D
F
E
E
E
F
Somebody
wants
to
paint
I
mean,
there's
that
wonderful
little
mural
up
on
on
Belcher,
that
the
the
fishes.
F
D
See
I've
always
been
in
charge
in
favor
of
involving
kids.
You
know,
and
you
know,
yeah
yeah,
but
again
we
have
to
get
them
to
participate.
Okay,
one
last
item
here-
and
this
is
really
something
I'm
charged
with.
D
D
But
Diane
said
that
it's
now
going
to
be
in
June
and
it
basically
involves
a
you
know:
a
budget,
a
forecast.
You
know
an
accounting
for
what
we
brought
in
and
what
we
paid
out,
what
we
anticipate
spending
and
an
overview
of
what
we've
accomplished
for
this
year.
E
D
D
H
Now
we
have
the
opportunity
with
the
change
in
our
and
our
bylaws,
whatever.
G
I
have
put
in
the
we're
in
budget
season
now
and
I
have
put
in
50
grand
for
the
public
art
committee
as
part
of
the
budget.
D
So
are
there
any
staff
comments,
Diane.
G
G
E
G
It
was
definitely
very
dated
and
very
needed,
and
it's
just
such
a
popular
place.
We
get
you
know
because
it's
our
the
tarpon
Arts
tickets
main
ticket
sales
office.
We
get
a
lot
of
traffic
from
there
and
then
they're
like
they
come
in
and
they
look
and
they
go.
Oh
a
museum
too.
You
know,
so
we
get
these
people
that
are
coming
purposely
for
the
museum,
and
then
we
get
the
people
coming
for
tickets.
That
then
you
know
want
to.
G
You
know,
go
through
it,
so
you
get
a
lot
of
traffic
and
our
numbers
have
been
really
high
for
the
Safford
house,
as
well
as
the
Heritage
Museum
this
year.
I
think
everybody's
out
now
with
covid,
is
no
longer
a
scare
and
we're
just
seeing
such
a
large
percentage
of
visitors.
So
I'm
just
really
glad
that
we're
getting
you
know
a
really
nice
facelift.
G
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
tell
you
all
about
I.
Have
some
concerns.
Is
the
eliminated
art
boxes?
As
you
know,
they
have
not
been
lit
at
night
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
Public
Works
is.
You
know
they've
been
up
for
several
years
now
and
what's
happening
is
that
the
batteries
are
burning
out
and
the
wiring
is
failing
so
they're
going
to
have
to
go
into
every
single
one
of
those
20
illuminated
art
boxes.
E
G
Determine
is
it
the
battery?
Is
it
the
wiring
and
they
said
that
they
weren't
they.
They
did
not
really
like
the
wiring
that
they
use,
because
apparently
I
guess
the
corrosion
of
the
sea
water-
and
you
know
everything
our
weather
is
really
taking
its
toll
on
it.
So
they're
feeling
like
they're,
going
to
have
to
replace
it
with
some
heavier
Duty.
You
know.
G
You
know
attachments,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
process
because,
what's
happening
is
you
know?
As
you
know,
our
Public
Works
are
just
spread
all
over
the
city
for
different
tasks,
so
they're
they
haven't
forgotten
about
it,
but
they
just
want
you
to
know
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
cost
associated
with
them
and
I
said
you
know,
they're
very
important.
You
know
to
us,
and
so
you
know
just
continue
to
give
us
updates
on
it,
and
so
they
are
working
on
it.
C
D
Think
I
was
on
that
jury,
yeah.
Okay,
our
next
regular
meeting
is
Wednesday
May
10th
2023
at
2
p.m.
In
this
location,
oh
Graham.
H
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
the
the
art
boxes
and
the
failing
batteries
and
so
on,
because
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
issues
for
this
this.
This
meeting
I
noticed
that
more
of
them
are
out,
and
it
just
seems
to
be
getting
a
problem.
That's
getting
worse
and
I'm
glad
that
the
that
the
public
works
department
is
thinking
of
or
talking
at
least
about
doing,
some
sort
of
replacement
Electronics
in
there
to
make
it
all
work
properly.
H
Do
we
have
a
an
actual
plan
for
doing
a
workshop?
Yes
or
no.
E
H
D
Yeah
but
I
I
think
what
we
need
is
is
a
dialogue
with
you
know
the
city
and
you
know
like
this.
You
know
Vision
Vision
plan
and
you
know
Sonia
said
too.
There
seems
to
be
something
for
you
know:
Tarpon
Ave
too,
so
yeah
I.
D
D
Right
so
maybe
invite
you
know
somebody
from
Greektown
Heritage,
maybe
somebody
from
the
chamber,
maybe
somebody
from
you
know
Karen
from
Economic
Development.
D
G
Limited
yeah
talk
to
him
about
what
departments
right
he
would
have
he'd
be
okay
with
attending
we'll.
E
G
Get
a
date
first
I'll
have
to
find
out
when
this
room
is
available.
You.
H
D
H
Don't
come
no
yeah
and
my
final
thing
is
that
I
know
we
approved
Elizabeth's
video.
Do
we
have
any
update
on
the
actual
deployments
of
that.
G
We
need
a
television
actually
Elizabeth
is
over
at
the
cultural
center.
As
we
speak,
we're
talking
about
doing
an
exhibit
of
her
art
coming
up
at
the
Museum.
We
haven't
finalized
anything
yet,
but
once
we
get,
the
we've
got
to
work
out
what
days
it'll
be
open
and
things
like
that
right
now,
you
know
it's
pretty
pretty
tough
to
you
know
with
my
employees.
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
them
and
we
have
shows
that
we
have
to
staff
too.
So.
H
On
that
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
you
say
we
needed
television,
presumably
you've
already
taken
a
look
around
your
facilities
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
is
underutilized
that
could
be
moved
there.
But
you.
G
Yeah
we
use
a
television,
we
usually
the
television
and
the
Greek
history
wing,
for
you
know
those
those
videos
so
I
can't
take
that
one.
H
G
D
G
G
Of
thing,
so
let
me
measure
it
and
I'll
get
back
to
you
on
that.
D
There's
there
was
an
Amazon
Fire
TV
55
inch
for
like
340
yeah.