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A
It's
a
clock
and
we're
calling
the
sustainability
committee
meeting
August
17
2023
to
order
at
this
moment
and
Tommy,
would
you
mind
taking
a
roll
call.
B
We
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
after
we
take
roll,
call
and
alternate
member
Robin,
Sanger
right
right
and
Alternate
member
Jennifer
Bracy
is
absent.
A
A
F
Letting
me
come
back
and
talk
to
you
Network.
F
That
one
right
there
that
work-
okay
tonight
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
overview
of
our
project.
That's
been
going
on
again.
This
is
from
our
our
tree.
Grant
that
we
acquired
from
the
USDA
I
do
want
to
look
at
some
current
tree
laws
that
are
affecting
Street
trees,
since
this
project
was
all
about
Street
trees
well,
go
over
some
project,
findings
that
we
have
and
some
key
issues
for
the
inventory,
as
well
as
our
Social
Survey
results
that
we
did
and
then
a
little
brief
talk
about.
F
Like
all
Grant
recipients
are
supposed
to
do,
we
have
to
say
thank
you
and
very,
very
grateful
for
the
USDA,
and
this
is
a
pass-through
Grant
to
the
Florida
forest
service
through
fdax
or
the
Florida
Department
of
Agriculture
and
I
do
have
to
make
sure
I
show
the
disclaimer
statement.
So
there
we
are.
F
So
the
to
refresh
your
memory,
the
purpose
of
this
project,
to
begin
measuring
and
identifying
key
issues
and
make
operational
and
policy
adjustments
working
towards
the
goals.
So
as
a
sustainability
committee
since
2019,
you
guys
are
familiar
that
you've
been
looking
at
natural
environmental
action
items,
and
this
inventory
has
stuck
through
all
of
the
revisions
and
also
it
made
it
into
the
Strategic
plan
as
well.
So
this
really
is
an
implementation
of
your
two
policies
and
your
two
plans,
so
I
want
to
give
credit
to
that.
F
When
I
met
with
you
before
it
was
at
the
very
beginning,
we
were
project
set
up,
getting
ready
for
our
interns.
They
are
phenomenal.
People
I
have
to
give
them
credit.
We
are
so
ahead
of
schedule
than
what
I
initially
thought
of
back
in
the
day
when
we
were
putting
this
all
together,
we
are
now
summarizing
I'm
able
to
bring
you
the
raw
data.
This
is
not
the
final
data
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
We
are
working
on
some
one.
F
The
trees
that
are
four
inches
in
diameter,
so
not
circumference,
but
across
the
tree
that
are
four
inches
wide
or
larger,
and
not
one
of
the
26
species
that
are
exempt
are
protected
in
the
city.
So
if
it's
a
dead
tree,
if
it's
a
live
tree,
if
that's
a
pine
or
not
one
of
the
26,
you
will
be
required
to
get
a
permit
for
it.
F
The
maintenance
side.
Currently
homeowners
are
responsible
for
the
maintenance.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
the
slide
on
the
left,
the
piece
as
we
call
it,
the
clear
Zone,
it
is
14
feet
over
the
roadway
and
10
feet
from
over
top
of
an
improved
right
away
or
sidewalk
area,
and
if
anyone
has
seen
a
crew
doing
tree
work,
it's
more
unlikely
going
to
have
been
Duke.
The
current
the
city
does
not
currently
have
a
crew
to
go
out
and
do
this
work.
F
It
is
predominantly
done
by
Duke
Energy
at
this
point
and
then,
of
course,
the
homeowners
I
did
mention
briefly
the
26
species,
the
only
one
I
can
enforce.
Removal
on
is
Brazilian
pepper
and
it
has
to
be
from
a
lot
that
has
a
certificate
for
occupancy.
We've
tried
it.
In
the
past
code,
enforcement
has
tried
to
go
after
ponds,
they've
tried
to
go
over
those
HOA
common
areas
and
unfortunately
it
did
fail
in
higher
courts
So.
Currently,
the
only
one
is
Brazilian
pepper
from
a
coed
property.
F
With
the
permit
process,
the
city
prefers
that
inch
per
inch
replacement
occurs.
That
means
so
whatever
amount
of
biomass,
physical,
mass
or
you
know,
wood
that
you
take
off
the
property
say
it's
20
inches
to
divide
that
20
inches
back
up
and
replant
and
smaller
trees
that
equal
up
to
those
20..
So
you
could
do
a
three
inch
tree.
You
could
do
a
four
inch
palm.
You
can
mix
it
all
together
as
long
as
and
I'll
show
in
the
the
Landscaping
standard
size
as
long
as
it's
not
more
than
25
Palm
species.
F
So
we
do
have
a
replacement
plan
written
into
those.
There
is
a
fee
in
lieu
those
fees
do
go
into
the
tree
bank
and
that's
what
funds,
the
giveaways
and
other
City
projects,
as
well
as
the
matching
sides
for
this
project
that
we've
done
today,
another
one
that
is
affecting
Street
trees
is
the
new
tree
law
or
the
the
revised
2022
revision
to
the
163.045
section.
F
So
that
is
really
affecting
our
tree.
Permit
numbers
they
really
have
dropped
and
as
well
as
that,
it's
the
replacement
fees.
So
our
tree
Bank
mitigation
budget
has
dropped
in
there
as
well.
So
that's
really
been
the
most
impactful
out
of
those
laws
that
I've
seen
so
far.
A
Well,
I'm
just
afraid
that
I
won't
remember,
but
we're
talking
about
city
property,
correct
along
the
roads
and
not
what's
literally
on
somebody's
property,
like
my
neighbor
had
to
remove
a
jacaranda
right,
you
know.
F
I
want
to
work
that
out.
I
think
you
guys
are
the
movers
and
shakers
of
this.
You
know
possibly
talking
about
this
policy,
this
ordinance
section,
you
know
if
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
the
next
year
is
our
the
section
where
we
have
to
do.
The
urban
forestry
management
plan
and
I
would
like
to
address
a
lot
of
these
key
issues
that
I'm
seeing
during
that
time
frame,
and
that
is
dictated
by
our
grant
that
we
have
for
next
year's
part
of
it.
F
F
F
The
wording
it
does
meet
our
standards,
they
have
to
use
the
tree
risk
Matrix
if
it's
the
ANSI
standards
that
it's
for
tree
risk
assessment
and
it
has
to
be
a
tree
that
is,
cannot
be
mitigated
to
less
than
moderate.
So
if
you
have
a
high
risk
or
an
extreme
risk
tree,
but
you
can
prune
it
to
reduce
it
down
to
below
moderate,
then
it
would
not
qualify.
It
has
to
be
that
removal
is
the
only
way
to
reduce
it
down
to
under
moderate,
though.
A
F
So
high
the
the
healthy
part
uh-huh
can
go
into
the
tree.
Risk
maintenance
part
the
tree
risk
assessment,
but
it's
risk
of
structure.
Predominantly
you
have
to
have
a
Target
in
order
to
have
you
know,
risk
right,
you
got
to
have
a
person
or
a
house
or
something
to
if
it's
in
a
vacant
lock
no
risk.
No,
you
know
if
there's
no
target,
there's
no
risk
it'd
be
a
great
discussion
to
really
go
and
dive
into.
F
If
you
want
to
I
do
have
a
PowerPoint
on
Isa
arborist
and
why
you
should
use
them
and
I
do
go
through
those
tree
matrixes.
Maybe
I
can
send
it
to
Tommy,
so
you
guys
could
look
at
it,
and
maybe
we
can
do
another
walkthrough
of
it,
but
the
way
that
or
the
statute
says
it
that
if
there's
no
other
way
to
get
it
below
moderate,
does
that
tree
actually
qualify.
What.
D
F
If
you
can
move
the
bench
from
out
from
underneath
the
tree,
if
you
can
prune
something,
that's
maybe
dead
out
of
the
tree,
if
there's
other
ways
to,
and
you
follow
the
likelihood
of
failure
with
the
likelihood
of
impact,
how
severe
or
you
know
is
that
impact
going
to
be,
and
then
you
walk
through
the
Matrix
I
think
it'd
be
better
as
a
visual.
That's
what
I'm
saying
I'd
rather
give
that
to
you.
E
I
just
ask
another
way,
though,
because
you
you
were
saying
the
impact
I
just
want
to
understand
the
impact,
not
necessarily
the
nitty-gritty
of
it,
but
you
said
that
it's
not
paying
into
the
tree
ordinance.
Does
that
mean
fewer
people
are
cutting
down
trees,
so
there's
fewer
money,
less
money
going
into
the.
F
F
F
If
they
have
an
arborist
on
staff
and
they
can
provide
that
service
to
you,
not
all
tree
companies
out,
there
have
Isa
certified
arborists
and
that's
actually
another
part
of
that
presentation.
I
have
as
well
to
describe
that.
The
tree
industry
is
not
currently
licensed.
We
do
not
have
a
license
like
an
electrician
or
general
contractor
the
ISA
and
their
lobbyists
have
been
working
towards
that
diligently.
But
currently,
if
they
say
license,
they
mean
like
a
local
business
tax
and
workman's
comp.
C
F
They
usually
call
me
out:
I'll
I'll,
go
see
if
you
know
if
they've
got
a
risk
assessment
letter,
but
that
letter
is
directed
usually
towards
the
homeowner
and
it's
the
homeowner's
responsibility
and
it's
it's
there
and
there's.
Actually
some
civil
law
there's
some
potential
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
lawsuit
or
whatever,
but
it's
some
of
those
things
are
being
reviewed
in
courts.
So.
G
F
On
that,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
legal
issues,
so
I'd
rather
prefer
someone
talk
to
you
about
it.
That
is
knowledgeable.
I
do
have
one
particular
board
certified
Master
arborist,
that's
been
dealing
with
that.
We
are
lucky
enough
to
have
in
the
area.
Maybe
he'd
be
willing
to
come
in
and
talk
to
you
about
it.
F
But
I
am
not
an
expert
by
any
means.
I
understand
what
the
wording
says
and
I
I
can
recognize.
What
a
report
looks
like
that's
one
of
my
trainings
I
am
a
track,
a
tree
risk
assessment,
qualified
arborist,
as
well
as
a
municipal
specialist
arborist,
which
is
means
the
certified's
here
and
I've,
taken
extra
levels
to
go
up,
but
really
that's
a
lot
of
legal
stuff,
and
if
you
really
want
to
ask
those
questions,
I
will
be
more
than
happy
to
find
you
somebody
you.
A
F
18
different
pieces
to
a
risk
assessment,
but
again
you
know
we
could
go
down
this
and
talk
about
it
all
day.
Yeah.
D
D
So
I
just
called
a
tree
person
and
they
came
in
with
their
crew
and
they
cut
it
down,
chopped
it
up
and
took
it
away
now
it
never
dawned
on
me
that
I
had
a
do
anything
and
I'm.
Sure
I
am
not
alone
on
this
so
and
this
seems
very
complicated
and
there's
this
and
there's
that
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
how
does
the
normal
citizen
of
Tarpon
Springs
know
what's
required
of
them,
because
I
mean
we're
having
people
come
to
trim
our
trees
and
I?
F
A
couple
things
going
on
there,
one,
your
rubber
tree
is
exempt
from
permitting
two.
You
did
the
right
thing.
You
called
I
have
given
seminars
as
part
of
the
knowledgeable
series
about
hiring
a
certified
Arborist
I
have
done,
I
have
done
that
and,
as
you
see
actually
through
the
rest
of
this,
the
community
and
the
Social
Survey
part
is
begging
for
knowledge,
and
that
was
something
that
really
came
out
at
me.
So
when
I
get
to
that
part,
they
are
asking
for
knowledge.
They
are
asking
for
more
education
on
our
City
website.
F
Currently,
I
do
have
a
tree
inside
information
tab
underneath
the
Building
Development
tab
that
they
can
go
on
there
they
can
access.
All
of
my
information,
I
do
have
frequently
asked
questions
on
there
as
well.
Now,
hopefully,
the
individual
is
hiring
a
professional
company
that
they
have
an
arborist
that
individual
has
had
training.
They
understand
that
there's
you
know
every
place
is
different.
The
landscapers
that
are
removing
trees.
Hopefully
they
follow
proper,
permitting
procedures
in
the
past.
F
I
have
been
a
part
of
Code
Enforcement
cases
where
they
have
not
again,
hopefully
they're
they're,
trusting
the
right
individual,
and
that
is
a
different
part
of
my
presentation
on
that
other
one
that
I
have
for
the
knowledge
and
nibbles.
So.
G
A
C
G
What
if
what
I
would
be
interested
in
is
speaking
with
the
professional,
not
a
professional,
a
legal
professional,
to
see
what
teeth
our
ordinance
has?
What
supersedes
our
ordinance,
what
are
the
possibilities
of
strengthening
our
ordinance
that
could
give
us
more
traction
with
it
and
that's
that's
kind
of
basically
it
okay.
B
Excuse
me,
this
is
actually
one
of
the
action
items.
Is
the
Net
Zero
canopy
lost
policy
for
year,
one
of
the
sustainability
plan,
so
this
is
definitely
gonna,
be
a
topic
to
Jour
so
I.
This
is
definitely
a
good
topic
for
future
future
committee
presentation.
F
And
you're
all
thinking
already
and
I
love,
it
I
absolutely
love
it,
and
this
is
why
I
wanted
to
come.
Talk
to
you.
You
know
you
are
my
Advocates.
You
are
the
city's
tree
Advocates
and
that
this
is
why
exactly
why
I
thought
working
with
you
and
collaborating
with
you
would
be
the
best
way
to
do
an
urban
forestry
management
plan.
You're
already
thinking
you
all
come
from
different
backgrounds
in
your
life.
You
all
have
different
perspectives.
F
You
all
are
residents
and
that's
why
you
know
going
to
the
knowledgeable
people
that
are
the
movers
and
shakers
in
the
community.
So
thank
you
hopefully
quickly
to
go
through
the
Landscaping
side.
F
Our
tree
planting
schedule
hasn't
been
revised
since
2006.
It
is
time
to
do
that,
but
the
one
thing
that
really
is
awesome
that
Tarpon
is
doing
is
requiring
a
Florida
number
one
or
better
tree
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
grades
and
standards
of
trees,
there's
a
little
picture
there
on
the
side.
I
know
it's
difficult
to
see.
Hopefully
the
pointer
will
work.
F
Okay,
so
this
section
in
here
where
the
air
is
pointing
this
is
actually
a
grade
number
two
tree,
but
if
you
prune
it
in
a
certain
way,
you
could
actually
increase
the
grade.
So
there
is
that
aspect
and
I
have
been
doing
that
with
developers
and
new
people
that
are
having
homes
built.
I,
I
really
am
sticking
to
the
grade,
and
standard
I
have
actually
made
multiple
people
or
projects
replaced.
F
Those
trees
in
order,
so
starting
off
with
a
good
Baseline
nursery
tree,
is
really
important
and
I
commend
the
city
for
already
having
that
to
put
into
play.
Revisions
do
happen
to
the
to
the
grades
and
standards.
The
last
one
was
in
2015.
F
and
as
again
as
part
of
the
management
plan,
we
do
need
to
start
looking
at
that
tree
replacement,
and
maybe
you
know,
work
on
some
two
of
those
actually
are
on
the
invasive
species
list
and
as
you'll
see
later,
we
do
have
quite
a
lot
of
trees
that
are
on
our
approved
tree
list
that
are
actually
on
the
invasive
species
list
for
as
the
Florida
pest
Council.
So.
D
F
F
This
is
our
project
area
in
the
red.
It
was
actually
what
the
grant
we
requested
to
do,
but
it
back
to
our
fabulous
set
of
interns.
They
were
able
to
expand
that
so
we
used
the
water
in
the
bayou
as
well
as
the
Anclote
River
and
US
19.
As
our
new
boundary.
We
did
stick
within
the
CRA
District
as
the
farthest
East
boundary
line,
because,
where
the
yellow
is
that
I've
already
applied
for
another
Grant
through
the
inflation
reduction
act
to
hopefully
get
that
section
inventoried
as
well.
F
One
thing
I
do
want
to
point
out
as
we
go
through
the
numbers.
There's
a
lot
of
City
managed
land
in
this
area.
We
have
the
mangrove
section
next
to
the
water.
I'll
talk
more
about
why
I
really
went
through
the
mangroves
Craig
park
is
in
there.
We've
got
the
trail.
We've
got
the
Nature
Park
and
the
dog
park
city
managed
parking
lots,
so
some
I
believe
as
we'll
go
through
it.
F
H
F
This
is
why
Miss
Pat's
influence
commercial
on
this,
the
right
away.
We
defined
it
as
up
to
10
feet
from
back
of
curb.
We
do
have
curbs
in
a
lot
of
this
area,
but
when
we
got
to
a
vacant
lot,
Park
Avenue
does
not
have
any
curbs
or
the
brick
streets
that
you
know
are
starting
to.
Not
if
you
can't
find
it
because
the
overgrown
from
the
pavement
back
to
10
feet.
So
that's
what
we
defined.
F
Full
credit
again
great
team.
There
is
one
missing
from
this
photo.
Two
of
them
are
currently
environmental
GIS
students
at
USF,
the
one
on
the
right
is
actually
just
graduated
and
going
in
for
his
Masters
so
and
then
John
our
fourth
one.
He
actually
worked
for
the
National
Park
Service.
F
So
what
do
they
find?
We
have
4114
trees
located
within
our
project
area.
I
was
taken
back,
but
28,
which
is
the
top
percent,
which
is
the
number
one
is
actually
a
cabbage
Palm
or
a
Sable.
Palm
then
comes
the
the
oak
and
then
also
there's
a
lot
of
mangroves
in
there
they're
dense
they're,
you
know
very
small
plants,
so
you
actually
get
a
lot
of
those
numbers
and
the
top
15
species
actually
makes
up.
90
percent
of
our
total
Street
tree.
F
The
mangroves,
as
you
can
see,
are
very
prevalent.
They
make
up
24
but
of
the
total
number,
but
only
one
percent
of
the
land
mass.
So
keep
that
in
perspective,
like
I
told
you,
I
was
going
to
tell
you
about
it.
Fema
disaster
response.
It
say
we
have
a
large
disaster.
We
have
to
go
into
the
mangroves
and
remove
a
boat
or
a
home.
F
F
D
Okay,
so
around
it's
Wickham.
F
Them
they're
going
to
keep
them
around
the
values
we
maintain
those
also
at
the
Splash
Park
Dog
Park
area.
Those
there
are,
some
surprisingly
there's
an
a
trail.
That's
not
gonna!
Let
me
do
it
again,
so
I'll
where
the
splash
park
comes
in
and
the
trail
starts
to
come
in
here.
There's
a
big
area
of
mangroves
and
you
can
see
that
that
blobs
is.
B
F
Those
as
another
layer,
maybe
in.
F
F
F
So
that's
and
the
other
one
is
the
Rosewood
that's
on
there.
Within
this
area,
Australian
pine
was
at
6.7
percent,
queen
palm.
It
is
actually
on
the
invasive
species
list
and
they
all
lined
odecones
or
dodecanese,
and
so
there's
some
key
areas
that
actually
have
quite
a
bit
of
invasive
species,
and
then
we
also
have
the
Washingtonian
as
well.
So
that
would
be,
if
you
added
up
all
those
numbers
of
the
4.5
percent.
You
know
if
that
would
be
quite
high,
is.
A
F
Be
a
great
project
if
we
could
find
the
funding
and
I
would
totally
support
it,
but
that
would
be
another
conversation
to
have
on
a
separate
day
of
and
actually
in,
like
the
management
plan,
do
we
make
that
one
of
those
top
hot
button
items
you
know
and
then
also
with
your
sustainability
plan
and
the
Strategic
plan?
If
you
know,
if
we
correlate
them
all
together,
is
that
an
action
item
so.
D
F
Would
love
to
find
you
an
expert
on
that?
Okay,
the
website
that
is
on
there?
If
you
go
to
the
Florida
invasive
species,
they
actually
explain
on
there
their
methodology
and
how
they
do
it.
There
is
another
invasive
list
by
the
University
of
Florida.
If
you
want
to
consider
that
it's
called
an
a
float,
UF
essay
and
they
have
different
species
on
different
aspects
of
you
know
their
invasiveness
or,
if
they're,
something
that
needs
to
be
controlled,
so
another
discussion
would
be.
If,
as
we
change
our
list,
do
we
go
with
one
list?
F
F
Will
go
on
there
and
I
will
try
to
find
out
everything
about
the
queen
palm
for
you
that
you
know
and
find
that.
D
F
And
there's
there's
a
category
one
and
a
category
two
category
ones
are
the
Australian
pines
the
camphor.
A
category
two
would
be
the
Rosewood
and
so
there's
there's
different
layers
of
the
onion.
D
F
You
can
go
see
in
the
streets,
you
drive
down
the
road
you're
gonna
find
a
conv
a
conflict
very
well.
Like
I,
said
before
a
lot
of
our
area
is
managed.
Land
by
the
city.
We
have
a
huge
Park.
We
have
the
mangroves
that
you
know,
don't
have
a
conflict,
so
that
number
to
me
could
be
potentially
skewed,
but
it
is
in
our
project
area,
and
this
is
the
data.
F
They
also
result
in
lower
quality
and
vitality
ratings
and
we'll
have
more
slides
on
that
later.
They
can't
grow
properly
you're
trying
to
make
something
live
in
a
with
a
concrete
box
or
next
to
a
home
overhead
power
lines
risk
of
fire.
We
did
actually
have
experience
that
in
one
of
the
storms,
some
Washingtonian
palms
actually
caught
on
fire
because
they
touched
the
lines.
F
So
there
is
that
risk
as
well
that
not
a
lot
of
people
think
about
also
you
know
your
fences,
or
these
are
all
the
ones
that
we
went
through
underground
utilities.
Oh,
you
know,
these
are
Street
trees,
so
they
all
had
cable.
They
all
had
water.
You
know
how
does
that
relate
and
when
they,
because
of
the
pruning,
that's
happening
and
the
mitigation
of
it
are
you
cutting
the
roots?
F
Are
you
cutting
a
large
stem
or
leader
now
when
something
like
a
storm,
or
maybe
it's
just
now
got
some
bad
pruning
wounds
in
it
and
the
K
starts
to
come
happen.
Is
it
going
to
lift
up
the
utility?
Is
it
going
to
break
the
water
line?
You
know?
Is
it
growing
over
it?
How
so
all
of
these
things
impact
our
street
trees
and
usually
by
year,
19
they're
coming
out
and
for
like
an
oak
tree,
it's
still
a
baby,
it's
still
a
juvenile.
F
We
have
not
gotten
that
full
return
on
that
investment
of
planting
that
three
thousand
dollar
tree
by
the
time
you
get
the
watering
the
labor
the
cost
to
do
all
of
it
and
then
we're
ripping
it
out
in
19
years
before
we
can
get
that
return
on
investment,
so
something
to
think
about
as
we
move
forward,
maybe
with
with
planting
and
that's
what
we
move
into
next.
So.
F
Could
another
expert
in
the
area
we
we
are
blessed
in
Florida
really
honestly
to
have
a
lot
of
experts
really
really
close.
Deborah
Hilbert
from
the
University
of
Florida
did
her
PhD
on
tree
growth
and
how
far
to
do
from
part
of
Pavements
and
those
things
like
that
and
I
would
love
to
present
that
information
to
you.
She
has
a
whole
formula
that
if
you
have
an
oak
tree
by
the
time
the
root
flare
happens
on
average,
you
need
1.5
times
this
times,
there's
a
whole
formula
to
go
with
it
and.
B
Just
to
be
clear,
the
the
10
foot
was
is
not
like
a
city
ordinance
or
a
planting
plan.
That's
about
defining
what
trees
were
included
with
as
defined
in
city,
right
of
way
for
the
purpose
of
the
survey.
D
Then
it
would
be,
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
trees
in
these
areas
and
I'm
well
aware,
because
I
walk
a
lot,
that
the
trees
create
the
shade
that
make
my
life
so
much
more
enjoyable,
especially
with
this
big
heat,
because
they're
covering
my
path
walking
on
the
road
or
the
sidewalk.
So
if
we
were
not
to
have
this,
then
there'd
be
less
shade
and
when
we're
outside,
we
would
be
subject
to
all
of
this
intense
Heat.
So
that's.
F
Is
you
know,
and
and
to
give
you
some
of
my
backstory
I've,
been
with
the
city
as
of
July
for
16
years,
I
started
as
a
brush
Hall,
you
know,
pulling
weeds
and
all
the
rest
of
that
so
I've
seen
a
lot
of
these
conflicts
fail,
and
actually
that
has
led
to
me
issuing
permits
the
way
I
do
because
I've
seen
them
fail
when
they
look
like
they're,
green
or
I've.
Seen
these
conflicts
causing
a
problem
and
I've
seen
them
fall
over
with
a
water
line
underneath
them.
So
this
these
are
all
you
know.
F
There
are
some
things
that
are
out
there
that
are
newer,
engineered
sidewalks
silver
cells
because
they
are
newer.
They
don't
have
the
research
behind
them.
So
again,
you
know
pushing
that
into
design
standards,
planting
spaces,
it's
a
whole.
You
know
another
layer
of
the
conversation
that
keep
going
on.
We
did
try
to
find
some
planting
spaces
this
the
interns
as
they
saw
anything
they
marked
its
location.
They
told
me
what
it
was.
You
know
if
it's
pavers,
if
it's
mulch,
if
it's
gravel,
I
the
a
paver
example,
would
be
old,
trees.
Well
downtown.
F
That's
now
you
can
definitely
see
where
the
the
tree
was,
and
now
it's
been
pavered
over.
That's
predominant!
That's
why
it's
one
percent
a
lot
of
those
actually
were
on
Pinellas
Avenue,
so
trying
to
be
proactive
and
figure
out
where
we
can
put
some
new
ones
condition.
F
This
is
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
you
guys
want
to
know
honestly,
as
we
put
the
slide
together
and
you
can
see
we're
all
over
the
Spectrum.
These
are
actually
the
ratings
from
these.
Are
industry
based
off
of
Industry
practices,
Dr
John
Bond,
as
well
as
the
ctla
method?
Really
went
into
trying
to
create
our
version
of
this.
F
I
think
that's
pretty
yeah
pretty
good
out
there,
three
percenters
dead,
so
we
won't
or
ex
you
know,
four
percent
very
poor,
so
they
were
flagged
and
I've
been
going
out
there
and
identifying
them
and
do
they
need
to
be
removed.
Do
they
not
need
to
be
removed
so
but
honestly,
most,
the
other
four
percent's
gonna,
probably
be
removed.
F
I
tree,
have
you
guys
ever
heard
of
I
tree,
so
remember
those
big
plastic,
clear
transparency
sheets
with
all
the
dots
and
you
had
to
Overlay
it
on
your
Aerials
to
be
able
to
randomly
do
points
I
tree
took
that
all
away
and
they've
done
everything
on
the
computer.
For
you,
it
does
do.
Random
sampling
and
I
did
use
another
tool
that
I'll
talk
about
in
a
couple
other
slides
it
uses
it's
all
industry
standard,
stuff,
it's
been
by
the
USDA.
F
We
are
allowed
to
use
it
for
free
as
long
as
you
give
them
credit.
So
thank
you,
itree
and
all
the
collaborators,
and
this
helps
to
calculate
canopy.
So
we
did
two
versions
of
the
canopy
assessment.
We
did
one
for
the
project
area
and
then
we
also
did
one
for
the
whole
city
and
for
the
project
area
we
are
looking
at.
29.44
is
actually
tree-lined
and
covered.
So
what
does
that?
Go
back
to
all
of
our
trees
are
privately
owned.
F
F
Is
concrete
is
impervious
wow
either
a
building
sidewalk?
So
when
you
see
all
the
little
points
that
I
have
on
the
bottom,
everyone
zoomed
in
to
a
picture
that
was
probably
maybe
20
30
feet
off
the
ground.
So
you
could
see
the
whole
area
around
it
and
it
was
tree
no
tree.
What
did
it
fall
into
the
category
if
it
touched
a
little
section
of
a
mangrove
or
a
species
that
we
decided?
It
was
a
tree.
We
called
it
a
tree
if
it
touched
ground
Turf,
we
called
it.
You
know
herbaceous.
F
B
F
C
F
So
the
city
actually
is
a
lot
higher,
not
a
lot
higher
than
when
I
did
it.
In
2018
we
were
at
32
now
we're
at
35
percent
and
in
a
few
sides.
I'll
show
you
how
other
cities
manage
on
that
number,
but
the
city
complectively
all
of
our
within
our
city
boundary,
is
at
31.4,
impervious.
F
The
second
tool
that
we
we're
going
to
finish
up
using
is
I
treat
eco,
so
you
take
all
of
this
data,
you
put
it
into
their
software
and
they
come
up
with
numbers
for
you
and
they
start
to
extrapolate
it,
and
they
come
up
with
a
report
and
all
the
different
items
that
are
listed
on
the
left
hand
side,
you
know,
function,
analysis,
structure,
composition,
forecasting
and
modeling
and
pest
risk
management
all
will
come
from
from
I
tree
Eco.
It
is
older
software,
so
I
as
I,
don't
know,
checks
and
balances.
F
If
you
want
to
call
it,
there
are
other
ways
to
manage
the
values
of
trees.
There
is
the
landscape
association
with
Palms
I,
actually
called
our
contractor
and
specifically
for
Sable
Palm.
If
we
lost
all
of
them
and
wanted
to
replace
them,
it
would
be
one
million.
Ninety
four
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
just
to
replace
the
Palm
species.
F
If
you
remember
from
the
previous
slide,
makes
up
28
of
our
canopy
of
Street
trees
and
that's
only
one
species,
the
Hardwoods
we
did
started
to
do
some
trying
to
learn
the
software
and
and
messing
with
it
early
estimates.
Just
for
the
hardwoods
is
three
million
dollars:
3.4
million
dollars
I
will
get
coming
soon
will
be
the
final
data
on
all
of
that
I
am
working
with
GIS.
F
We
were
having
software
input
issues
with
the
Palm
species
themselves,
so
Matt
and
I
are
actually
going
to
be
working
on
that
next
week
and
going
back
out
and
remember,
measuring
some
Palms.
D
D
It's
not
a
lot
of
money
for
what
the
trees
do
and
I
mean
they
do
so
many
things
on
so
many
levels
and
when
you
look
at
the
survey
results,
people
recognize
that
without
really
going
into
this
in
much
depth
so
for
a
city
to
spend
a
million
dollars
is
like
not
a
lot
of
money
for
the
what
you
get
back.
D
So
so,
what
I'm,
I'm
sort
of
trying
to
say
when
you
say
those
numbers
you
should
like
yeah,
it's
only
a
million
dollars
and
not
let
go
because
it
really
isn't
in
the
long
run.
A
lot
of
money-
and
let
me
just
and
I
just
want
to
say
one
thing
about
palm
trees-
is
that
palm
trees
aren't
as
environmentally
helpful
as
the
Big
Trees.
C
D
G
I'll
be
quick
because
I
know
you
have
a
lot
to
get
through,
but
I
think
you
know
what
would
be
an
interesting
thing
to
see
would
be,
if
say,
there's
a
million
dollars
to
remove
all
the
palm
trees
and
those
were
planted
with
trees
that
were
either
native
species
or
positive
effect
species
or
whatever
to
see
what
the
benefit
cost
benefit
analysis
over
time,
so
that
you
know
okay,
never
mind.
Go.
F
D
F
The
pocket
and
remember
this
is
just
a
small
part
of
Tarpon
yeah.
Remember,
you
know
we're
probably
dealing
with
what
maybe
a
fifth
of
Tarpon
for
our
project
area.
So
when
we
start
to
move
out
into
the
residentials,
what
are
we
going
to
find?
You
know?
What
are
we
going
to
find
there
so
and
with
the
dollar
value?
F
F
Some
of
the
key
surprises
that
we
saw-
95
native
24
of
our
you
know,
is
mangrove
wind
tolerance.
We
went
through
some
scientific
data.
We
found
some
research
that
has
been
done
roughly
20
percent
of
the
trees
out
there
within
our
project
area.
It
has
a
high
wind
tolerance.
F
57
percent
have
no
rating,
so
they
have
not
been
categorized.
That
would
be
something
like
a
Japanese
blueberry.
That
would
be
something
like
a
silver
button.
Would
you
know
we've
got
little
knowledge
on
50,
you
know
half
of
our
for
the
wind
tolerance
at
least
and
again
are
toting
the
excellent,
the
good
and
the
fair.
F
The
canopy
assessment
I
told
you
I'd,
show
you
different
numbers:
we're
at
35
percent,
clear
waters,
31
dunedin's
41.,
where
I
got
these
numbers
from
a
study
happened
with
the
University
of
Florida
right
after
the
new
tree
law
went
into
the
the
165
and
they
have
an
entire
website
about
all
the
different
areas
and
who
reported
back
to
them.
They
had
UF
students,
go
through
all
of
these
areas
and
confirm
the
numbers,
so
that's
where
I'm
getting
these
numbers
from.
F
E
C
E
F
F
So
the
social
side,
my
role
is
to
build
trust,
builds
transparency,
transparency,
bills,
trust.
D
Yeah
on
your
break
time,
image
Okay,
so
that
to
me
was
a
very
interesting
photograph.
Given
this
report,
this
presentation,
because
what
we
see
is
a
lot
of
sand,
a
lot
of
palm
trees
that
create
no
shade
when
people
are
out
there
sunbathing
or
whatever,
and
then
there's
some
shade
trees
up
near
the
road,
so
that
that's
to
me
a
very
interesting
photograph
because
Florida
go
to
the
beach
whatever.
D
C
F
The
back
behind
the
playground
to
the
causeway
is
Australian
pine,
as
they
have
failed,
or
parking
lot
needed
to
be
done.
The
area
by
the
playground
has
been
replaced
with
oak
trees.
There
are
with
the
new.
This
was
taken
before
the
the
new
Pavilions
going
in.
There
are
going
to
be
some
oak
trees
over
here.
This
is
all
Mangrove
that
line
where
the
coastline
this
section.
F
F
F
So
if
you're
not
familiar
I'm
sure
you
are,
we
do
have
the
connect
Tarpon
Springs
webpage
did
do
the
Social
Survey
I
am
posting
things
about
as
they
come
up
when
I
do
events,
I
did
put
the
results
of
this
and,
like
my
thing
says
my
motto,
transparency
builds
trust.
Trust
builds
engagement.
This
was
the
Social
Survey
was
all
about
getting
the
feedback.
F
F
F
So
Outreach
activities:
how
much
are
they
what
you
know?
What
do
I
need
to
focus
my
efforts
on?
How
do
they
want
it
and
they
said
commission
participating
at
community
events
like
touch
a
truck
eco-fest,
that
is
their
preferred
Way
community
workshops
I
have
had
them
through
knowledge
and
nibbles
before
they
are
in
the
middle
of
the
afternoon.
So
maybe
we
need
to
bring
in
some
diversity
of
times
and
things
like
that.
I
do
know
the
library
we
are
again
fortunate
to
have
a
Master
Gardener
that
lives
in
Tarpon
Springs.
F
That
does
donate
her
time
to
the
library
and
and
does
a
seminar
every
once
in
a
while.
But
that's
one
area
that
you
know
I'm
going
to
start
looking
to
explore
in
and
then
Arbor
day's
activities.
We
have
two
tree
giveaways
every
year.
One
is
at
Touch
a
Truck
and
one
is
at
eco-fest,
so
come
on
out
on
September
16th
and
come
get
some
free
trees.
We
are
working
potentially
on
some
different
ideas
for
the
Arbor
Day
Giveaway,
so
watch
the
space
for
further
knowledge.
F
The
top
three
ways
to
ensure
a
safe
and
healthy
Urban
Forest
again,
they
said
tree
planting
more
education
back
to
that
education
piece
again
and
then
the
best
management
practices
and
tree
preservation.
So
going
back
to
that
code,
going
back
to
what
we're
we're
supposed
to
enforce
doing
a
you
know,
a
good
review
of
that.
F
Their
opinion
of
the
top
three
barriers-
you
know,
lack
of
public
awareness
of
the
true
preservation
plan,
like
you
brought
up
before
and
then
having
HOAs,
have
little
or
no
place
in
preservation
for
future
plantings,
lack
of
a
formal
plan
again
going
back
to
our
management
plan,
so
it
looks
like
they
really
are
supportive
of
of
our
next
step
in
the
in
the
phase,
so
that
was
kind
of
an
eye-opener
for
me,
so
I
there
is
other
and
in
other
this
was
a
free-form
response,
so
in
their
backup
as
part
of
this
I
hope
you
read
through
it,
you
can
see
all
the
different
responses,
so
some
that
relate
to
this
section
that
they
pulled
out
again
lack
of
public
awareness.
F
They,
some
of
them
kept
bringing
up
the
city
approving
Mass
tree
removal,
some
divisions
along
keister,
Road
and
Lake
Tarpon,
leaving
existing
treason,
leave
existing
trees
in
place
exclamation
part.
So
they
gave
examples
of
that.
F
One
of
them
said
lack
of
opportunity
for
community
members
to
be
educated.
So
again
you
know
it's
all
back
to
education.
F
F
This
did
have
another
section
where
they
could
do
a
free-form
response:
new
development
plantings
over
non-native
species.
New
development
must
include
retention
of
existing
native
trees
and
site
plans,
say
a
minimum
of
10
percent
so
that
that
individual,
that
reported,
gave
a
species,
diversification
and,
and
so
I
thought.
That
was
a
little
interesting
and
one
of
my
favorite
ones,
good
dirt
for
plants.
D
Well,
I
think
that
that
is
one
of
the
biggest
issues
about
planting,
so
you
can
get
the
right
tree
but
to
actually
plant
it.
You
know
what
kind,
how
big
of
the
hall?
How
do
you?
What
do
you
do
about
making
a
moat
for
the
water?
What
kind
of
soil
or
manure
or
whatever
do
you
put
in
and
when
do
you
put
it
in
and
where
do
you
mulch?
Those
are
complicated
and
I
think
that
I
know
when,
when
I've
planted
some
trees
or
anything,
those
are
my
big
issues
am
I.
D
Making
my
mix
right
am
I.
Doing
this
and
I
think
good
dirt
is,
is
saying
you
know,
I
have
a
neighbor
who's
like
really
good
at
figuring
that
out
so
I
mean
planting
a
tree,
isn't
just
like
sticking
it
in
the
ground.
There's
a
lot
of
things
you
have
to
do.
F
And,
and
to
tie
that
in
to
the
education
piece,
I
do
give
them
a
flyer
if,
if
they
come
to
a
tree,
City,
Event
and
another
great
individual,
that
I
would
love
to
pull
in,
is
I.
Believe
she
just
got
her
PhD
from
UF
did
a
whole
study
about
tree
giveaways.
F
How
effective
are
tree
giveaways,
another
person
that
I've
had
communication
with
Shannon
Caravel
she?
How
far
does
she
go
to
as
the
urban
Forester
to
track
these
trees?
And
that's
that's
the
piece
that
I've
been
looking
into?
Are
they
getting
planted?
Are
they
sitting
in
the
bucket?
Are
they
not
sitting
in
the
bucket?
Is
the
city
wasting
their
money
and
they
so
those
two
people
again
I
would
love
to
have
come
talk
to
you
or
maybe
even
pull
some
of
their
edu.
You
know
pieces
together
for
education
on
that.
F
And
and
Shannon
does
a
wonderful
job
on
that
she
actually
goes
back
three
or
four
years
later
and
the
one
and
does
drive-bys
and
sends
them
emails
and
she's
got
it
all
hooked
up
to
where,
after
six
months,
everybody
that
she's
plugged
in
automatically
gets
an
email
of.
Please
take
the
survey.
F
How
do
they
feel
about
the
Urban
Tree,
the
current
tree
canopy?
We
know
that
it's
at
35
for
the
city,
almost
29
30
for
our
project
area
and
everybody
again
says:
okay
still
needs
more
poor
and
good
I
was
very
surprised
that
the
the
poor
was
up
there
as
22
so
and
again,
I
believe
this
one
actually
ties
into
your
strategic
plans
about
the
no-net
canopy
loss.
How
do
we
do
it?
So
you
know
exploring
this
would
be
another
action
item.
F
F
F
That's
something
we
we
try
to
do
before.
Coven
I
went
to
the
school,
the
middle
school
and
we
tried
to
do
a
campus
cake.
Arbor
Day
campus
K-12
is
the
full
name
of
the
project.
We
would
go
in
on
Thursdays
twice
a
month.
We
would
have
a
project
Learning
Tree
activity.
It
was
one
particular
leadership,
class,
Teresa
bederic,
who
was
my
partner
in
crime.
F
F
If
they
had
trees,
who
takes
care
of
it,
you
know
and
who
owns
them?
You
know
what
is
the
city?
What
are
the
residents
perception
of
who
owns
these
Street
trees?
A
lot
of
them
are
unsure
and
a
lot
of
them
said
that
they
did
or
they
weren't
applicable,
because
they
don't
have
street
trees
and
I.
Think
that
was
that
18
that
16
really
that
they
don't
have
them.
So
we
need
to
go
out
and
go,
find
them
and
put
a
tree
in
their
yard.
F
F
And
again,
back
to
those
free
form,
responses,
I'm,
all
about
active,
listening,
getting
feedback
on
what
you're
doing
I
believe
is
crucial.
Even
bad
feedback
is
something
to
be
able
to
learn
from.
So
again,
please
go
through
your.
If
you
haven't
already
go
through
those
those
comments
and
I
think
they
will
dictate
a
lot
of
our
thoughts
and
maybe
moving
forward
in
future
conversations.
A
I
think
the
results
are
incredibly
encouraging,
though
very
supportive
of
tree
planting
and
maintenance,
but
I,
don't
think
that
they
quite
understood
the
urban
forestry
plan.
A
Because
there
was
kind
of
a
difference,
I
mean
there
were
some
of
the
answers
that
seemed
to
reflect
that
that
was
not
understood,
but
I
I
think
overall,
it
just
was
incredibly
encouraging
to
hear
the
percentage
of
people
that
are
really
in
favor
of
more
trees
and
they
recognize
the
need
any
comments.
Carol.
D
So
this
is
just
an
observation:
I
lived
in
Kansas
City
at
one
point
and
the
big
developer,
JC
Nichols
when
he
went
there,
he
developed
a
lot
of
Kansas
City
and
a
whole
residential
areas,
and
he
actually,
during
World
War
II,
developed
the
park
system
in
DC
for
free,
but
what
he
did
and
I
don't
know
how
to
incorporate
this.
If
you
bought
a
house
or
moved
into
his
area,
they
had
a
big
nursery
and
everybody
got
three
trees
to
choose
and
I
am
assuming
they
would
come
and
plant
them
for
them.
D
D
We
also
need
guidance
and
we
need
professional
guidance,
and
but
if
there
was
a
network
in
the
in
the
city
set
up
with
interns
and
things
who
could
actually
you
know
you
can
come,
you
can
get
a
tree,
but
you
can
also
sign
up
for
an
intern
to
come
and
or
whomever
a
Cadre
of
volunteers
to
come
and
actually
help
you
figure
out
where
to
put
the
tree
and
and
planted
and
set
up
a
schedule
of
maintenance.
D
Because,
however
much
we
read
about
this
and
I
feel
like
I've
done,
a
lot.
I
still
don't
know
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
assistance.
And
then,
when
you
set
up
that
personal
relationship,
then
you
can
feel
comfortable
to
call,
and
you
know,
I've
I've
phoned
you,
but
I
know
that
you're
one
person
for
the
whole
city.
So
if
we
could
set
up
that
outlet
one,
it
would
be
really
exciting
to
get
that
engagement
and
create
a
community
around
trees.
F
C
F
The
one
person
I'm
thinking
of
is
down
in
St
Pete.
He
is
awesome
at
not-for-profits
and
the
community
not-for-profit
world
that
he
has
tapped
into
are
doing
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
I,
don't
I'm
just
going
to
throw
the
numbers
out
there
that
I,
you
know
just
as
an
example.
F
F
I've
asked
him
for
some
of
his
his
feedback,
the
Saint
Pete
group.
They
do
have
a
title,
I
can't
think
of
it
right
now,
but
that
is
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
and
and
they
are,
they
are
working.
That
system.
C
F
D
F
H
H
E
F
Okay
workshops,
Workshop
workshops,
so
coming
up
with
the
the
Strategic
plan
and
the
you
know:
sustainability
committee,
the
sustainability
plan
that
you
guys
have
done
probably
something
very
similar
to
that
to
get
to
do
the
master
plan,
for
as
they
call
it
for
the
urban
forestry,
but
probably
some
working.
The
system,
like
you
did
with
that,
come
with
some
a
goal:
a
vision
statement
pulling
some
of
that
data.
Together
of
having
these
conversations
that
you've
already
picked
up
on
your
action
items,
how
do
we
incorporate
that
into
a
master
plan.
F
And
again,
thank
you
to
the
Florida
Forest
Service.
Their
funding
would
not
make
this
possible
and
remember.
This
is
the
first
step.
We've
got
a
lot
more
Street
trees
out
there
to
inventory.
I
have
applied
for
the
IR.
The
inflation
reduction
act,
one
for
the
the
C
jest
area,
but
there's
a
lot
more
to
do.
There's
a
lot.
F
Said
and
that's
cool,
if
we
don't
the
street
trees
is
you
know
we
need
to
know
a
street
tree
number?
We
do
need
to
have
that
inventoried
for
the
next
one
I
also
have
tied
in
because
it
is
in
the
low
income
area
the
potential
to
go
in
there
and
do
the
maintenance
for
them.
That
is
what
I
suggest
as
what
PJ
and
I
put
together.
F
So
we
took
the
framework
of
this
Grant
and
then
added
the
layer
of
providing
the
matching
funds
to
actually
do
the
maintenance
of
the
trees
and
in
the
grant
we
called
it
up
limit
for
safety,
so
you
know
getting
emergency
vehicles.
You
know
the
the
14-foot
clearance
for
them.
Having
in
that
area,
there's
the
elementary
school
we've
got,
you
know
how
do
they
get
to
school?
So
all
of
that
put
together
is
what
I
was
going
to
focus
on
on
the
next
one,
with
the
also
sneaking
in
there
the
the
tree
inventory.
C
D
So
in
there
you
have
these
charts
of
tree
benefit
estimates.
You
know
how
much
carbon
monoxide,
CO2
no2o3
are
absorbed,
and
so
I
is
this
about
our
trees
or
just
trees
in
general.
So.
F
That
software
actually
has
those
values
and
those
algorithms
built
into
it
to
for
each
one
of
those
areas
that
I
gave
you.
That
is
what
that
program's
estimates
are
for
what
that's
happening
within
that
area.
As
part
I,
don't
have
a
copy
of
those
in
front
of
me.
They
do
have
a
value
number
associated
with
those
like
with
the
you
know.
The
total
value
mean.
F
Money-Wise
I
want
to
see
how
that
compares
when
we
get
done
with
the
I3
Eco
side,
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
this
kind
of
the
same
algorithms
that
they
built
and
built
in
and
worked
into
it
and
then
I
want
to
verify
those
some
of
those
numbers
with
what
we're
coming
back
with.
You
know
our
with
the
CCL
ctla
method
and
actually
like
what
our
contractor
says.
It
would
be
the
cost
to
replace
if
we,
you
know,
figured
out
those
things
so.
D
Surprised
that
see
two
was
the
smaller
of
all
of
them,
because
I
think
of
big
oak
trees
and
things
of
absorbing
a
lot
of
CO2.
But
according
to
this
list,
ozone
is
what's
most
absorbed.
D
C
F
D
That
to
you,
I
find
that
I
mean
I,
didn't
know
that
trees
absorbed
ozone,
and
here
I
mean
on
this
chart.
Ozone
is
absorbed
far
more
than
anything
else,
and
that's
pretty
interesting
to
me,
I
mean
you
know:
we've
we've
had
issues
with
that,
and
nitrogen
dioxide
I
mean
this
is
an
interesting
chart.
D
I
I,
really
this
is
very
valuable
and
that's
the
sort
of
thing
I
think
that
people
really
want
to
see
I
mean
what
is
it
that
these
trees
actually
do,
and
you
know
what
it:
why
is
it
important
that
these
things
get
absorbed
and
then
they
get
absorbed
and
they
get
put
in
the
ground
and
stored?
That's
the
question
what's
really
important
and
the
other
issue
is
what
happens
when
you
cut
down
a
tree?
Does
all
that
stuff
get
put
back
into
the
atmosphere,
but
you
keep
the
roots,
and
we
all
know
about
the.
D
F
D
A
G
As
far
as
dealing
with
CO2
rebuilding
Shoreline,
all
those
things,
plus
the
the
sustainability
and
health
of
our
ocean
life
and
Gulf
life,
and
all
that
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
separate
track
for
Mangrove
since
they're
it's
a
terrestrial
trees
and
mangroves
are
at
such
different
levels.
If
there's
a
way
to
create
more
weight
towards
the
mangrove
trees
or
at
least
to
to
put
that
piece
in
there,
because
those
are
powerhouses
for
all
the
things
much
more
than
terrestrials
trees
and
Street
trees.
And
things
like
that.
I.
A
Shannon
when
we
filled
out
the
survey,
you
know,
as
a
committee
I
know,
I
I
had
a
really
burning
question,
pretty
much
about
alignment
of
City
projects
and
how
you
know
whether
or
not
you're
involved
when
something
like
the
retention
pond
on
Gross
and
Cyprus
is
built
because
we
moved
into
we
moved
on
to
our
street
and
it
was
like
it
was
a
dream
location.
A
Subsequently,
the
project,
which
has
been
a
real
pain,
I,
think
for
the
city
to
be.
You
know
under
underwhelming
in
labeling
it
that
way
they
subcontracted
to
people
that
had
no
connection
with
the
public.
That
had
been
talked
to
prior
to
the
project
starting
and
they
just
started
mowing
trees
down.
We
were
hysterical,
not
knowing
who
had
even
contact
at
that
point,
because
this
has
been
several
years
ago,
but
I
just
wondering
how
to
prevent
that
type
of
misalignment
between
projects
I
mean
your
project
is
really
close
to
all
of
our
hearts.
A
You
know
in
terms
of
adding
more
tree
cover
minimizing
the
urban
heat
island
effect.
I
mean
everything
that
trees
contribute
everything
that
trees
contribute
and
that's
really
important.
Considering
that
this
was
you
know,
we've
gone
through
the
hottest
summer
that
is
on
record
worldwide
and
we're
in
the
thick
of
it
right
now,
but
when
there's
that
kind
of
misalignment,
what
can
you
do
to
prevent
it?
In
the
future,
I
mean
where
there's
two
departments
working
on
two
different
projects
and
have
different
priorities
and
are
not
on
the
same
page.
B
I
I
think
we
can
say
there
was
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
on
that
project.
That
was,
you
know.
Obviously,
project
admin
was
the
lead
on
that,
but
the
city's
done
a
lot
of
thinking
about
issues
with
that
project
and
how
to
prevent
recurrence
and
specifically,
as
it
relates
to
trees,
there's
certainly
been
a
lot
more
weight
for
all
projects
put
on
trying
to
maintain
maintain
trees
in
place
to
the
maximum
extent
possible.
B
So,
as
we've
implemented
new
projects
since
then,
there's
all
the
way
up
to
the
top
all
the
way
up
to
the
city
manager
and
talking
to
Mark
I'm,
not
in
a
hurry
to
walk
up
to
his
office
with
any
treatment
removal
permits
anytime
soon,
and
we
have
definitely
had
a
refocus
on
trying
to
maintain
trees
in
place
for
future
city
projects.
H
D
So,
where
I
live
on
Chesapeake,
we
have
that
little
park
and
I.
Remember
with
you,
you
sort
of
indicated
that
the
trees
in
that
Park
were
old.
You
know
they're
all
covered
with
moss
and
but
which
means
that
they're
on
their
way
out
in
some
way.
But
there's
been
no
effort
to
plant
new
trees
to
take
their
place
and
I
suspect
that
that's
just
not
my
little
park
but
a
within
the
city,
and
is
that
part
of
the
plan?
D
Or
can
that
be
incorporated
in
the
plan
that
when
it's
recognized
that
trees
are
are
getting
very
old
and
they're
not
going
to
last
too
much
longer?
Maybe
five
more
years
than
new
trees
get
planted
can
be
smaller
trees
that
will
grow
up
Craig.
F
Park
has
actually
had
the
most
succession
planting
at
this
point,
that
is
the
pride
and
the
Jewel
of
Tarpon
Springs.
You
know
with
all
of
our
stuff.
There
has
been
a
lot,
a
lot
of
succession
planting
actually
in
Craig
Park
with
your
Park.
That
would
be
a
great
place
to
do
it
I
do
the
other
piece
of
this
is
the
contractor
side
and
I
really
do
want
to
change
internally
our
contract
for
planting
I.
F
Taking
that
burden
off
of
City
staff
and
having
that
with
a
warranty
to
go
with
the
tree,
I
think
would
be
in
the
best
interest
and
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
But
that
is
something
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
internally
about
and
and
make
those
decisions
on
an
internal
level.
But
that
is
my
goal.
G
Thinking
about
two
things:
one
is
along
curly
Place,
Harbor
Oaks,
so
that
was
in
the
early
days
of
the
tree
ordinance
those
trees
were
all
planted
and
the
HOA
had
someone
to
plant
them,
someone
to
maintain
them,
someone
to
water
them,
and
that
is
the
most
people
walking
back
and
forth
on
that
strip
of
property,
because
it
has
the
most
shade
it's
absolutely
gorgeous
and
you
think
about
it.
That
hasn't
been
that
long.
So
I
think
that's.
That
is
a
true
success
story
and
a
way
to
show
people
a
difference
that
that
can
be.
G
E
G
F
E
All
right,
so
can
you
talk
about
because
I
think
one
of
our
goals
in
the
sustainability
action
plan
is
native
plannings
for
City
properties
and
I
would
imagine
that
would
I
don't
know
if,
if
it
would
or
not,
but
like
some
of
the
projects
are
State
projects
and
they're
putting
in
crepe
myrtles,
and
things
like
that
like?
How
do
we
where,
where
in
the
timeline
is
addressing
that
in,
is
it
code
city
code
that
needs
to
change
or
is
well.
F
E
Fda
left
on
and
then
I'm
thinking,
I
think
it
was
the
state
where
they
planted
like
the
crepe
myrtles
in
the
middle
of
the
road
on
Tarpon
Avenue.
C
E
F
I'd
have
to
go
to
exactly
to
a
particular
project,
to
think
of
and
and
be
able
to
pull
that
in
there.
For,
for
you,
honestly.
B
F
Do
have
you
know
we
do
have
a
flexibility
to
choose
the
right
true
for
the
right
place
without
thinking
of
a
particular
project.
I
know,
we've
talked
about
I
try
to
do
more
native
trees.
You
know
actually,
in
the
mirrors
project
those
those
Palms
down
there.
Those
Royals
are
actually
Florida
Royals
without
the
the
F
dot
projects.
G
Those
the
crepe
myrtles
along
Pinellas
Avenue
when
those
were
planted,
those
the
utilities
were
all
supposed
to
be
underground
at
that
time,
which
is
why
I
think
they
went
for
something
that
didn't
have
a
lot
of
roots
or
a
lot
of
whatever,
and
then
that
fell
through
to
where
the
utilities
were
never
underground
and
the
trees
remain.
So
I
think
that
it's
part
of
a
a
different
piece
of
that
was
in
there
as
well.
F
Utility
companies
do
have
in
state
statutes,
they
do
regulate
what
can
be
planted
in
there
right
away.
So
if
it's
underneath
a
dish,
I
get
the
ones
the
regular
ones
to
the
house,
they
can
only
have
up
to
14
feet.
Genetic
potential
they're
not
allowed
as
to
prevent
the
fuel
gate.
Look
as
you
know,
or
the
one
armed
look
also
as
you
can
see,
from
Duke
Energy
going
around
town.
If
you've
got
the
taller
transmission
lines,
they
act
and
it's
based
off
the
kilowatt
or
voltage
or
whatever.
F
The
actual
term
is
how
far
vegetation
can
be
from
them
to
be
able
to
maintain
those
high
intensity
ones
and
like
the
ones
that
are
on
distance,
that
one
particularly
is
30
feet
from
each
side.
So
it's
a
60
foot,
wide
area
that
can't
have
vegetation
so
for
utilities
that
that
all
comes
into
play
and
that's
actually
under
state
statute.
D
So
I'll
go
back
to
my
little
Park
on
Chesapeake
if
they
just
put
in
Grass.
That's
another
issue,
but
they
it's
now
being
irrigated
and
it's
unclear
to
anybody
is
that
potable
water
that
they're
using
to
irrigate
because
there's
not
reclaimed
water
there
and
I,
don't
know
if
there's
they
dug
well.
D
So
one
of
the
things
about
new
plantings
and
all
is
they
have
to
be
watered.
So
that's
a
big
issue,
then
how?
How
is
the
city
going
to
what
are
these
things
and
using
potable
water?
Just
isn't
the
best
idea.
So
if
we
dig
Wells
I
mean
a
lot
of
us
have
wells,
but
then
you
know
you
are
taking
water
from
the
aquifer
and
as
we
get
droughts,
then
your
wells
have
an
issue
in.
D
Yeah
can
be,
and
then
the
question,
then,
of
reclaimed
water
lots
of
places
don't
aren't,
set
up
for
reclaimed
water,
no
one
on
our
street
has
reclaimed
water,
so
I
would
think
that
part
of
this
project
has
to
think
about.
You
know
how
are
we
going
to
water
all
of
this
and
and
that's
a
whole
other
kettle
of
fish?
D
So
is
that
part
of
this
plan
gonna.
A
D
D
D
So
anyway,
you
said
the
word
and
it
was
like,
and
you
know,
that's
oftentimes
what
happens
in
all
of
these
things
and
I
know
you're
well,
aware
of
that.
We
get
so
focused
on
this,
that
we
forget
to
look
at
all
of
the
consequences
and
other
things
that
are
part
of
the
bigger
Network
that
have
to
be
addressed.
B
I
just
want
to
address
dory's
earlier
question
regarding
scheduling
on
the
plan
year.
One
action
items
include
the
zero
Net
Zero
canopy
loss
policy
and
also
an
ordinance
requiring
control
of
invasive
species
on
city
property.
So
those
will
both
be
year.
One
action
items.
A
Any
more
questions
here,
that's
all
I,
have
thank
you
so
much.
D
A
D
F
E
B
B
We
had
it
over
40
and
I
think
we
might
have
had
over
50
applicants.
We
wanted
to
move
very
quickly
to
get
someone
up
and
running
as
soon
as
possible
to
start
making
progress
and
we've
had
a
really
great
diversity
of
candidates,
ranging
from
folks
with
you
know,
15
20,
30
years
experience
in
sustainability
to
you
know
folks,
like
right
out
of
school
and
right
out
of
USF
in
the
sustainability
programs.
B
I
don't
want
to
say
too
much
about
the.
What
we're
looking
for,
because
we've
got
tomorrow,
is
our
last
day
of
interviews,
so
I
don't
want
to
give
any
candidates
an
unfair
advantage
over
folks
that
might
have
interviewed
earlier
in
the
week.
But
we've
been
doing
interviews
all
this
week.
We've
already
shortlisted
and
I
think
we've
definitely
got
some
candidates
that
we
have
are
that
are
viable
candidates
at
this
point,
and
they
would
be.
We
would
be
happy
to
have
on
the
city
staff,
and
you
know,
in
this
type
of
hiring
Market.
B
It's
usually
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
to
find
good
folks
and
I.
It's
nice
for
ones
to
have
a
plethora
of
good
people
to
pick
from
that.
Could
all
do
good
work
for
the
city
in
their
own
way
and
I.
Think
at
this
point
we're
just
looking
for
who's
right
for
our
community
and
what
combination
of
skill
sets.
B
We
really
want
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
things
are
going
quite
well
and
we're
hoping
to
wrap
up
the
interview
and
recruitment
process
over
the
next
couple
weeks
and
then
go
through
background
checks
and,
depending
on
the
situation,
we
might
even
have
some
news
on
a
higher
at
the
next.
The
next
meeting,
oh.
D
B
People
our
first,
we
did
not
make
a
determination
on
if
we
were
going
to
do
two
rounds
or
one
round,
we
try
it.
You
know
we
we
want
to
keep
that
open
right
now.
We've
cut
our
list
from
you
know:
40
plus
almost
50
applicants
down
to
our
top
seven.
So
we've
done
six
interviews.
We've
got
one
more
tomorrow
and
from
there
we'll
deliberate
see
you
see
what
we've
got
see.
Who
would
be
happy
here
and
be
the
best
fit
for
Tarpon
Springs
and.
D
B
We've
got
a
really
good
panel.
It's
myself,
Paul
Smith
Renee
from
Planning
and
Zoning
director
and
PJ
are
Grant
project
Specialists
from
Project
admin.
That's
something!
I
was
trying
to
do.
I,
don't
like
to
load
up
our
committees
with
all
managers,
I
like
to
have
some
staff
on
there.
It's
like
hey,
pick
your
co-workers
and
obviously
grants
go
pretty
heavily
with
sustainability.
There's
a
lot
of
opportunity
out
there.
B
Not
typically
for
these
types
of
positions,
the
we
have
been
keeping
mark
up
to
date.
A
B
And
this
was
also
a
learning
opportunity
for
us
on
recruiting
too.
So
we
had
a
really
great
exit
interview
with
Robin
and
we
talked
to
her
about
recruiting
and
what
people
are
looking
for
in
the
sustainability
world
we
were
able
to.
B
Obviously
she
just
did
a
little
bit
of
job
hunting
too,
so
we
were
able
to
kind
of
pick
her
brain
a
little
bit
about,
like
you
know
where
to
go,
and
we've
been
kind
of
experimenting
a
little
bit
in
this
one
with
new
recruiting
techniques
like
we
started
using
LinkedIn
kind
of
for
the
first
time
in
public
services
to
to
reach
out,
we've
also
been
working
heavily
on
indeed,
and
trying
to
we've
had
candidates
from
you
know,
right
here
in
Pinellas,
County,
all
the
way
out
to
Arizona
and
up
north
of
the
Midwest.
B
So
we've
we've
had
a
lot
of
folks
from
all
over
the
country
that
are
potentially
interested
in
coming
to
work
here.
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
nice
change
of
pace
actually
in
this
kind
of
recruiting
environment,
wow.
A
A
Well,
look
thank
you
for
the
good
news,
yeah
excellent,
so
items
for
the
next
meeting
agenda
and
Tom
and
I
had
been
talking
about
not
trying
to
over.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
not
trying
to
overload
anything
in
the
agenda
that
really
should
wait
until
we
have
a
new
person
here.
So
what
did
we
mention
that
we
might
follow
up?
A
I
mean
I
would
love
to
hear
more
from
Shannon.
She
said
she
had
some
other
experts
that
and
needed
to
have
a
little
time
to
connect.
B
A
B
We
'd
have
to
look
into
that
at
the
minimum.
We
could
definitely
do
like
a
pretty
cool
presentation
about
water
supply
issues
in
the
state,
and
you
know
where
our
water
comes
from
would
be
very
topical,
but
we
could
explore
potentially
doing
like
a
field
trip.
Maybe
we'll
see
what
happens.
I
I,
don't
I,
think
that
might
be
new
for
for
advisory
committees,
but
I
think
that
we've
had
some
other
advisory
committees
to
site
visits
and
whatnot.
D
In
that
sort
of
interim
just
have
some
conversation
about
what
we'd
like
to
do
like
these
questions.
Well,
what
can
we
do,
what
you
know
and
look
at
the
action
statements?
What
what?
What
are
the
first
ones-
and
you
know-
here's
a
workshop
to
for
us
just
to
get
our
heads
around
what
we
can
do
next
and
how
to
think
about
that
before
we
get
a
person
because
oftentimes,
what
happens
it
seems?
Is
we
get?
Oh,
we
want
you
to
do
this.
We
want
you
to
do
that.
D
Wondering
one
of
these
workshops
look
like
how
could
we
construct
workshops
and
just
so
that
we've
thought
about
it
before
somebody
comes
to
us
and
said
we'd
like
you
to
do
that.
A
B
Goal
is
definitely
to
be
at
least
working
through
the
hiring
process,
and
you
know.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
folks
are
like
that.
We're
interviewing
are
already
working
and
stuff
like
that,
so
depending
on
what
they
have
to
do
with
their
current
employers
or
relocating
or
whatnot
that
may
or
may
not
work
out
to
have
the
the
new
person
in
here
in
four
weeks.
That's
a
little
tight
but
I
think
by
the
following
meeting.
B
Unless
something
goes
really
awry
with
our
hiring
schedule,
we
would
definitely
have
someone
in
place
in
what
October
for
the
meeting
and
probably
a
bit
sooner
than
that,
so
it
just
is
a
little
bit
up
in
the
air.
If
it'll
be
the
next
committee
meeting.
B
Yeah
we
could,
we
could
do
just
a
discussion
on
the
the
first
Year's
action
items.
A
B
And
also
I
think
one
thing
that
we
had
kicked
around
too
I
believe
we
can
talk
to
Shannon
and
see
if
she'll
have
additional
information
as
a
follow-up.
That
might
be.
That
also
leads
straight
into
some
of
the
other
action
items
for
year.
One
so.
B
I
I
actually
tend
to
think
so.
That's
one
thing
that
we
really
do
want
to
talk
about
with
once
we
get
someone
on
board
is
everyone's.
You
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
folks
with
like
good
project
management
experience
and
that
are
used
to
like
leading
these
sorts
of
programs.
So
we
really
want
to
give
the
new
coordinator
an
opportunity
to
put
their
arms
around
this
problem
think
a
little
bit
and
prioritize
and
also
get
used
to
our
city.
Organizational
structure
and
you
know.
B
Obviously
some
of
these
are
ordinances-
are
gonna
have
to
go
through
Planning
and
Zoning
working
with
other
departments,
so
it
might
take
them
a
little
bit
to
get
to
get
to
know
the
city
organizational
structure,
who's
in
charge
of
what
and
and
make
their
own
plan
for
how
to
implement.
So
you
know,
obviously,
if
we
had
someone
on
board
now,
that's
exactly
what
we
would
be
doing
is
making
a
plan
for
how
to
start
working
through
these
action
items,
but
that'll
probably
start
fairly
rapidly.