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House Civil Justice Sub Committee - April 13, 2021 - House Hearing Room 2
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
this
morning's
session
of
the
civil
justice
subcommittee.
Madam
great,
will
you
take
the
role
please.
A
C
A
D
Yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
make
brief
comment
about
how
the
importance
of
our
legislation
that
comes
through
our
committee
process.
You've
done
a
great
job
this
year,
but
legislation
does
have
consequences
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
go
without
mentioning
the
fact
that
our
one
of
our
hometown
papers
here
in
town,
the
front
page,
is
covered
with
gun
violence,
not
only
at
a
high
school
in
knox
county,
but
at
violence.
D
I
didn't
know
any
of
the
people
involved
in
these,
but
I
will
say
that
none
of
those
people-
this
is
a
civil
justice
committee.
This
is
not
the
criminal
justice
committee,
but
none
of
the
victims
are
ever
going
to
or
their
families
are
going
to
see
true
justice
as
a
result
of
this
gun
violence.
But
I
want
to
take
a
moment
and
point
out
and
mention
one
lady
who
I
did
have
the
pleasure
of
knowing
miss
debra,
cisco
or
debbie
to
her
friends
was
the
president
of
cwa
local
3808.
D
And
you
know
you
don't
become
the
president
of
a
labor
union
local,
just
because
you're,
nice
or
because
you're
a
good
leader
or
you're
smart,
but
it's
because
you
care
about
people
and
working
families,
and
she
did
that
and
she
fought
every
single
day
on
behalf
of
working
families.
So
I
would
love
to
just
acknowledge
the
passing
of
miss
cisco
and,
as
for
my
colleagues
again
to
consider
the
impact
of
the
legislation
that
we
pass
up
here.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
B
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
I've
got
to
admit
I'm
a
total
neophyte
at
justice
committees
of
any
kind.
I
always
feared
being
routed
into
one
of
the
justice
committees
and
because
because
I
knew
so
little
about
it,
I
didn't
I
didn't
request
highly
to
be
on
here,
but
now
that
I've
been
on
here
and
seen
your
skill
and
your
dedication
to
the
philosophy
of
justice.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
team.
It's
a
team
effort
here
members.
We
all
know
that
every
year
we
work
hard
to
get
good
policy
pass
and
certainly,
as
representative
clemens
said,
you
know
whatever
we
do.
We
want
it
to
protect
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
our
citizens
in
the
state
of
tennessee
and
beyond.
So,
and
thank
you
for
those
comments,
representative,
clements,
they're
well
taken
and,
and
every
one
of
us
want
to
accomplish
the
same
goal.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
those
all
right
members.
A
We
have
a
regular
calendar
this
morning
item
one:
that's
house
bill
1219,
that's
by
representative
lynn,
she's,
not
here
right
now,
so
without
objection,
I'm
going
to
roll
that
to
the
hill
of
today's
calendar,
that'll
be
the
regular
calendar,
there's
only
four
items
on
there.
So
without
objection
item
one
house
bill
1219
roll
to
the
hill,
today's
calendar,
that
brings
us
to
item
two
house
bill
357
by
chairman
curcio.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
have
an
amendment
that
I'd
like
to
move,
and
it
is
should
be
the
second
one
that
you
received.
It's
amendment
coded
6930.
C
Second,
thank
you.
Thank
you
committee
members.
This
rather
lengthy
amendment
seeks
to
create
some
very
needed
judicial
resources
across
our
state.
As
we
know,
every
year
we
receive
a
weighted
caseload
study
that
describes
the
need
in
our
judiciary,
so
sections
one
through
seven
reflect
the
need
for
new
trial
courts
and
several
of
our
judicial
districts,
as
evidenced
by
the
weighted
caseload
study
I
just
talked
about,
while
no
new
study
will
be
released
this
year
due
to
the
impacts
of
the
kovid
19
pandemic.
C
I
looked
at
the
weighted
caseload
data
that
we've
received
over
the
past
six
years
and
corrected
for
the
new
trial
courts.
We've
created
over
that
time,
and
then
I
averaged
the
numbers
to
identify
the
judicial
districts
with
the
most
need.
So
the
19th
judicial
district,
comprised
of
montgomery
and
robertson
counties
has
the
greatest
need
and
we
would
receive
two
judges
under
this
plan
and
then
the
following
judicial
districts
would
each
receive
one
judge.
C
So
judicial
district
number,
four,
which
mr
chairman,
I
think
is
near
and
dear
to
your
heart,
includes
granger
jefferson
and
severe
counties:
district
12,
district
13
district
22,
which
includes
murray
county,
which
is
a
county
that
I
represent
district
23,
which
includes
some
area
that
representative
griffey
and
I
also
represent,
and
then
judicial
district
30,
which
is
shelby
county
as
well.
C
So
sections
8
and
9
reflect
the
need
for
increased
positions
and
funding
for
the
newly
created
32nd
judicial
district,
which
we've
been
working
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
rural
community
has
a
equal
access
to
justice.
So
sorry
for
the
lengthy
explanation,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
what
we
were,
what
we
were
doing
today.
So
with
that.
A
D
A
C
Begging
us.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
that
the
32nd
judicial
district
is
a
newly
created
district
that
includes
hickman,
lewis
and
perry,
county
and
it'll
go
into
effect
in
2022.
D
And
I
know
we've
got
caseload
data
and
I'm
all
for
creating
more
judges.
I
know
that
most
of
our
judges
are
overworked
and
this
you
know
more
judges,
expedites
the
judiciary
process
and
access
to
justice.
So
love
that,
but
are
we
worried
at
all
about
creating
these
judges
in
counties
before
we
have
all
the
census
data
and
have
a
full
picture
of
what
the
real
needs
are
going
to
be
in
any
of
these
counties?
Or
do
you
feel
like
the
judge?
The
caseload
data
we
already
have
is
sufficient.
Chairman
cartier.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
understand
now
the
nature
of
your
question,
so
no,
this
bill
does
not
create
a
new
judge
in
the
32nd
judicial
district.
It
just
corrects
some
salary
changes
that
were
made.
So,
as
you
know,
when
you
file
a
bill,
it
gets
assigned
a
fiscal
note
and
so
fiscal
review
when
they
created
the
positions
that
were
necessary
to
staff
the
32nd
judicial
district,
they
they
they
just
have
to
pick
a
number,
so
they
peg
everybody.
C
Basically
at
a
level
five
salary
level
and
in
reality
you
may
be
there's
folks
that
have
been
working
there
for
25
years,
they're
at
a
level
much
much
higher
than
that.
So
what
this
does
is
just
reflects
the
salaries
of
the
folks
who
are
currently
working
there,
that
they're
already
making
but
doesn't
create
a
new
judge
for
the
32nd
they
they've
got
one.
D
Thank
you,
sorry.
I
changed
subjects
on
you,
so
I'm
I'm
looking
at
all
the
districts
across
the
board.
We've
you
referenced
the
caseload
data
that
we
have
and
we've
been
studying
for
years.
I
know,
or
some
of
y'all
have
who've
been
on
this
committee
for
longer
than
I,
but
we're
also
about
to
get
some
pretty
substantive
census
data
at
the
end
of
july.
I
think
that
may
alter
you
know
we're
going
to
see
a
major
decrease
in
population
in
some
of
our
rural
counties.
C
C
You
look
at
you,
know,
city
of
clarksville,
montgomery
county,
that's
where
they
need
two
judges,
they're
the
the
biggest
need
in
the
state
and
have
been
for
years,
and
then
you
know
in
my
area,
around
dixon,
houston,
humphreys
and
stewart
county
again,
seeing
all
that
growth
of
folks
coming
to
nashville
and
kind
of
bouncing
off
the
perimeter
and
going
and
buying
farms,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
really.
C
These
are
the
areas
that
are
seeing
the
population
growth
and
then,
of
course,
not
to
forget
the
30th
district,
which
is
our
colleague
representative
parkinson
down
in
shelby
county.
So
these
aren't
these
aren't
exactly
the
areas
that
are
shrinking.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
and
I
noticed
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
these
rural
counties
in
here,
but
every
district
has
a
anchor
tenant
so
to
speak
with
a
pretty
populated
county.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
got
that
on
the
record,
then.
My
last
question
is
we're
speed.
We're
expediting
this
into
effectiveness
of
september
first
of
this
year.
D
Why
aren't
we
just
waiting
to
allow
the
voters
to
choose
their
judges
rather
than
having
to
go
through
or
allowing
the
governor
to
appoint
these
all
these
judges,
when
we
could
just
wait
a
year
and
elect
the
judges
to
fill
these
seats
rather
than
having
all
that
turnover
and
creating
all
that
additional
bureaucratic
or
administrative
headache?
For
some
of
these
judgeships.
C
Jeremy
cartier.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
know
this.
This
mirrors
the
the
process
we
go
through
when
there's
a
judicial
vacancy,
so
you're
creating
a
new
judgeship,
the
governor
appoints
and
you
rock
on,
and
it
also
expedites
justice
in
those
areas.
Again
we
talk
about
clarksville,
montgomery
county
up
there
and.
C
They've
been
waiting
for
years,
and
you
know
they
need
relief
today,
they
really
needed
it
yesterday
and
I
get
letters
and
calls
every
single
year
as
soon
as
we
come
into
session.
From
from
these
judges
and
folks
who
work
in
those
courts,
saying
please,
the
weighted
caseload
study
has
said:
we've
been
deficient
for
years
and
years
and
years
do
not
delay.
So
this
would
just
allow
that
to
happen
as
quickly
as
possible
and
again
it
follows
the
exact
same
process
as
we
do.
If
there's
a
if
there's
a
vacancy
and
the
governor
appoints
representative
clemens.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
it.
I
mean
I
understand
what
the
vacancy
but
we're
creating
this
isn't
a
vacancy.
This
is
a
creation
of
new
positions
and
new
judgeships,
and
you
know
the
governor
appointing
one
member.
He
a
judge
here,
one
member
there
I
mean
this
is
the
equivalent
of
court
packing
you're
talking
about
seven,
my
accounts
right
child
judges
across
the
state
of
tennessee.
D
D
A
Thank
you,
chairman
kirstjen,
follow.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
thank
chairman
curcio
for
bringing
this
legislation.
I
fully
support
it.
It's
it's
fully
needed.
I
sat
through
all
the
I
think
I
made
just
about
every
one
of
the
judicial
redistricting
conferences
and
one
again
thank
the
the
judges
and
the
chancellors
who
sat
on
that
and
and
and
all
the
other
individuals
from
the
various
departments
and
judicial
branches
throughout
the
state,
whether
it's
prosecutors
and
so
forth,
and
victim
witness
coordinators
to
talk
about
the
needs
of
a
judicial
system
going
forward.
E
We
settle
our
differences
civilly
without
taking
violence
into
our
hands
and
harming
other
persons
and
innocent
people
and
damaging
their
property.
So
I
I
want
to
commend
chairman
kershaw
again
for
bringing
this.
I
fully
support
it.
I
would
share
with
my
concerns
with
my
good
friend
from
davidson
county
that
citizens
also
want
our
judicial
system
to
be
as
free
as
possible
from
politics.
E
They
don't
want
politics
interfering
with
how
our
judicial
system
functions
as
much
as
possible.
We
are
a
political
society
and
creation
and
that's
how
we
operate,
but
so
in
when
you
have
nashville
making
decisions
on
appointments
judicial
thing,
I
think
it
actually
tends
to
some
somewhat
cause
people
to
have
concerns.
I
think
it's
better
if
you
allow
the
the
development
of
who
people
want
to
be
their
judges
and
chancellors
if
that's
from
an
organic
grassroots
base,
but
I
fully
support
this
legislation.
Thank
you
and
happy
to
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
I
think
this,
the
state's
going
to
save
a
significant
amount
of
monies
for
those
folks
who
are
sitting
in
our
jails
in
our
prisons,
having
the
judges
there
to
get
them
through
the
system,
get
them
out,
get
them
on
probation,
becoming
productive
members
of
society
and
also
to
the
court
packing
statement.
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
these
are
trial.
Court
positions,
we're
not
adding
seven
state
supreme
court
positions
on
here,
so
I
consider
our
trial
court's
courts
of
trust
of
law
and
order.
A
You
know
people
coming
in,
as
as
representative
griffey
said
you
know,
maybe
had
had
been
charged
with
vandalism
or
theft
or
selling
delivery,
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
these
courts.
Aren't
asking
questions,
aren't
asking
political
questions.
These
folks
are
just
looking
at
them
for
who
who
they
are
and
what
they've
been
accused
of.
For
the
for
the
human
being
that
they
are
not
for
their
political
party,
so
let's,
let's
just
remember
these-
are
trial
court
positions.
They
do
not
supreme
court
positions,
and
this
is
these-
are
courts
of
law
and
order.
A
Members
anything
else
for
you
vote
question's,
been
called
on.
The
bill
looks
like
we're
ready
to
vote
to
send
house
bill
357
as
amended
to
the
civil
justice
floor
committee.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
opposed,
say
no
eyes
have
it
bill
moves
on,
and
that
brings
us
to
item
three.
That's
house
bill,
1472
by
representative
ogles.
A
I
had
signed
on
to
that
and
was
going
to
carry
that
for
representative
ogles,
but
it
looks
like
it's
been
general
subbed
in
in
the
senate,
so
that
means
it's
likely
not
going
anywhere
and
and
it's
this
is
this-
this
bill's
really
important
to
represent
ogle.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do?
Members
is
just
make
a
motion
if
we
could
to
move
this
to
the
first
calendar
next
year
for
him
that
way,
he
can
pick
up
pick
this
up
and
run
with
it.
So
any
any
objection
seeing
none
without
objection.
A
Let's
send
house
bill
1472
to
the
first
calendar
next
year.
So
and
that
brings
us
to
item
four
and
that's
my
bill.
If
I
could
have
representative
curcio.
A
Remembers
what
I'd
like
to
do
there's
two
amendments
on
there,
so
I
have
the
bill
and
the
the
amendment
6931
re-writes
and
makes
the
bill.
C
Objection
we'll
take
a
three-minute
recess.
C
Members,
thank
you
for
your
patience.
Our
three-minute
recess
is
over.
We
will
not
go
back
in
session
we're
in
session
we're
as
a
reminder
we're
on
item
number
four,
which
is
house
bill,
11
30
by
chairman
farmer,
chairman
farmer,
you
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
I
believe
you
were
going
to
move
an
amendment.
Do
you
know
which
one
that
is
yes.
A
What
this
bill
does
this
creates
a
statewide
chantry
court
and,
in
my
my
view
it
would
operate
almost
like
our
quarter.
Criminal
appeals
or
court
of
appeals.
It
would
what
it
would
do
is
it
would
create
a
a
three
panel
court
and
this
would
include
a
a
chancellor
out
of
the
eastern
grand
division,
the
middle
grand
division
and
the
western
grand
division,
and
this
panel
of
judges
would
then
hear
constitutional
issues
with
regards
to
the
state
would
be
brought
to
them
and
they
would.
A
They
would
hear
those
issues
and
and
make
those
rulings
and
and
act
off
of
majority
basis.
So
if
they
hear
something
and
two
judges
concur
and
one
descents,
then,
and
that's
something
that
they
would
they
would,
the
majority
would
prevail.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
say!
So,
that's
just
a
brief
ten
thousand
view
of
what
this
bill.
Does
it's
not
a
big
passage.
C
D
C
D
Mr
chairman
farmer,
what
is
how's
this
going
to
interact
with
the
legislation
that
we
just
came
through
this
committee
with
from
representative
garrett?
I
believe,
introduced
something
along
these
lines.
Okay,.
A
Chairman
farmer
you're
right
now,
and
thank
you
for
that
question.
That's
something
that
chairman
garrett
and
myself
are
currently
in
conversations
of,
and
I
think
that
we
would.
There
are
some
potential
conflicts
within
our
legislation
and
I
don't
believe
it's
anticipated
that
we
would.
We
would
bring
both
bills
to
the
house
for
in
request
passage.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
gives
me
a
better
understanding
and
also
I
can't
help
but
note
you
just
gave
a
very
eloquent
and
well-stated
defense
of
our
trial
courts
on
the
last
bill
and
talks
about
how
they're,
not
you
know,
political
they're,
just
trying
the
cases
in
front
of
them
and
that's
currently
what's
happening
right
now
on
the
davidson
county
transfer
courts.
D
You
know
cases
are
randomly
assigned
chancellors
adjudicate
the
case
before
them,
that
with
exclusive
jurisdiction
over
the
types
of
claims
contemplated
by
this
legislation,
and
yet
here
we
are
with
a
second
piece
of
legislation
that
seems
pretty
reactive.
My
subjective
opinion
to
you
know
not
agreeing
with
the
outcome
of
cases
in
the
past
year
or
case
in
the
past
year.
So
I
I
don't
understand
the
need
for
essentially
creating
a
court
of
appeals
at
the
trial
court
level.
D
A
And-
and
thank
you
for
that
question
representative
clemens,
I
believe,
there's
I
don't
believe
I
know
there's
language
here.
This
court
is
not
designed
to
be
a
court
of
appeals.
Okay,
it
actually
says
if
there
is
an
appeal
out
of
this
statewide
court,
the
court
of
appeals
shall
have
jurisdiction
of
appeals
from
decisions
from
the
statewide
chancery
court,
so
we're
not
taking
or
trying
to
usurp
any
any
authority
or
power
from
our
current
court
of
appeals.
A
I
think
the
the
idea
behind
this
is
to
set
up
a
statewide
court
that
would
represent
fairly
the
eastern,
the
middle
and
the
western
portions
of
our
state
as
a
whole,
instead
of
having
one
portion
of
our
state
hear
something.
So
I
think
the
idea
in
the
argument
has
been
well.
Why?
Why
can't
davidson
county
hear
this?
Why
can't
severe
county
hear
that?
That's
why
I
can't
shelby?
Can
you
hear
this?
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
sir,
and
I
appreciate
that
response,
but
that's
precisely
what
the
court
of
appeals
is
so,
regardless
of
who's
going
to
have
jurisdiction
over
these
claims
of
a
constitutional
nature
or
administrative
or
executive
order,
I
mean
you
literally
just
described
the
court
of
appeals.
It
made
up
of
members
from
the
grand
divisions.
D
D
Representative
clemens,
and
is
there
going
to
be
comparable
appropriation
of
funds
for
additional
office
space
for
these
statewide
chancellors?
D
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
sorry,
and
then
you
reference.
The
elections
will
be
in
con
in
compliance
with
17103
and
that
reference
is
the
appellate
courts
as
well
as
the
trial
courts.
Is
this
an
appointment?
That's
going
to
be
a
judgeship,
that's
going
to
be
an
appointment
and
then
a
yay
or
nay
vote
for
retention
every
eight
years,
or
is
this
going
to
be
elected
within
the
grand
division
itself?
Every
eight
years
as
a
popular
vote.
A
A
Okay
and
that's
what
I
thought-
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
confirm
it
legal
just
to
be
sure
of
my
answer.
This
will
be
an
appointment
that
will
coincide
with
the
judicial
terms
by
the
governor
initially
and
then,
once
these
terms
are
over,
these
judges
will
run
statewide.
D
Representative
columbus,
so
again
the
governor
is
going
to
appoint
these
three
individuals.
I
suspect,
for
an
eight
year
term,
before
they're
ever
up
for
retention.
So
again-
and
I
know
you'll-
disagree
with
this
statement,
but
again
it's
a
court
packing
instance
by
a
court
of
a
court
of
the
very
important
types
of
appeals.
D
So,
regardless
of
the
three
divisions,
the
three
divisions
aren't
necessarily
going
to
be
represented.
The
governor
is
going
to
be
represented.
His
wishes
for
eight
years
before
any
citizens
have
the
opportunity
to
achieve
these
judges
and
that's
a
that's,
a
sincere
concern
of
mine.
Okay,.
C
Chairman
farmer
has
moved
passage
any
further
questions
for
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
Representative
griffey
you're
recognized.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
thank
you
chairman
farmer,
for
bringing
this
legislation
look.
I
think
this
this
bill
addresses
the
concerns
that
see
94
other
counties
may
have
when
it
comes
to
who
gets
to
hear
the
cases
channels,
the
constitutionality
of
a
state
statute
or
the
state
officials
actions
or
something
like
that.
You
know,
there's,
there's
94
counties
and
davidson
county
was
originally
picked
historically
out
of
convenience,
because
nashville
was
here
and
so
forth.
E
So
the
the
trial
just
has
extreme
a
lot
of
power
and-
and
I
think
it's-
this
is
a
fair
way
to
give
every
90
all
the
95
counties
an
opportunity
to
select
who
they
want
to
be
the
chancellor
to
hear
these
initial
challenges,
and
I
think
this
is
a
fair
approach
and
I
support
it.
I
thank
you
for
bringing
the
legislation.
C
Thank
you,
representative,
griffey,
any
further
questions
for
the
sponsor,
seeing
none
we're
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill
1130
to
civil
full,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
those
opposed
no
the
eyes
have
it
if
you
wish
to
be
recorded
as
a
no,
please
indicate
with
the
clerk
members.
That
concludes
our
regular
calendar,
but
I'm
gonna
head
hand.
The
gavel
back
to
chairman
farmer
for
our,
I
believe
our
special.
A
And
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
handling
that,
for
us
that
brings
up
brings
us
back
to
item
one
by
representative
lynn.
I
do
not
see
her
that's
house
bill
1219,
so
without
objection
and
it's
been
a
good
45
minutes
now,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
move
that
to
the
first
calendar
of
next
year,
seeing
no
objection
house
bill
1219
first
calendar
next
year.
That
brings
us
down
to
our
special
calendar
item.
One
on
that
special
calendar
is
house
bill
518
by
representative
bricken.
A
C
A
And
so
you
got
a
motion
in
a
second
and
just
wanted
to
make
mention
and
I'm
sorry
I
wasn't
able
to
get
to
you
before
the
committee
on
this,
but
it
is
my
understanding
that
representative
terry
has
a
bill
that
is
encountering
rules
currently
in
calendar
and
rules.
That
does
what
your
bill
seeks
to
do,
and
you're
recognized.
F
A
F
A
Trying
to
derail
your
legislation,
so
yes,
sir,
thank
you
you've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
on
your
bill
looks
like
we
had
taken
up
this
matter
on
march
the
30th
and
adopted
amendment
45-77.
Do
you
still
want
to
move
forward
with
that.
F
I
actually,
mr
chairman,
have
an
untimely
filed
amendment
and,
if
you
would,
I
don't
know,
if
you
permit
me
to
speak
about
it
or
not,.
A
Members
and
the
posture
we're
in
this
is
this
is
our
last.
This
is
our
last
meeting
and
I
know
we're
running
up,
but
people's
running
around
different
committees
trying
to
trying
to
run
their
legislation
and
do
the
things
they
need
to
do
so.
I
take
a
motion
to
take
chairman
doggett's
untimely
filed
amendment.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
oh,
say
no
eyes
have
it.
So
thank.
A
F
We,
as
we've
discussed
previously
last
month
about
this
registry.
It's
called
the
second
amendment
privacy
and
protection
act.
It
defines
this
legislation
defines
what
a
registry
is
and
also
for
that
purpose
of
of
stating
what
you
can
and
cannot
do
and
there's
exceptions
in
there.
What
the
untimely
filed
amendment
did
was
working
with
the
various
departments.
We've
learned
through
our
process
of
going
through
this
legislation
that
there
are
some
state
and
local
entities.
There
are
lists
of
things
that
need
to
be
kept
for
the
purposes
of
inventory.
F
For
the
purposes
of
evidence,
collection
recently
learned
that
the
post
commission
has
to
keep
a
list
of
officers
who
perhaps
in
their
local
jurisdictions
they
the
local
entities,
cannot
provide
their
handguns
for
them,
and
so
those
local
officers
have
to
do
that
out
of
their
own
pocket
and
in
doing
so
the
post
commission
has
to
keep
a
record
of
that
solely
for
the
purposes
of
that
I
guess
liability
protections,
and
also
for
leosa,
which
is
the
retired
law
enforcement
officers,
whatever
firearms
that
they
qualify
with.
They
have
to
keep
a
record
for
that.
F
So
that's
the
provision
that
we
added
in
was
adding
post.
In
previously,
we
had
department
of
corrections
in
there
and
issues
dealing
with
the
department
of
safety
as
well.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
and
I
see
a
lot
of
exclusions
in
here
and
I
appreciate
you
making
those
amendments
for
practical
purposes.
What
what
is
this
contemplated
to
prevent
outside
of
these
exclusions.
F
Chairman,
you
recognize
it
is
to
prevent
a
state
or
local
entity
from
compiling
a
list
or
creating
a
registry
just
for
the
sole
purpose
of
knowing
who
has
firearms
and
firearms
accessories
in
our
state.
It
also
prevents
a
state
or
local
entity
from
sharing
or
reporting
that
information
to
the
federal
governments
for
the
sole
purpose
of
sharing
that
information
of
a
created
registry.
D
F
Doggett
no
sir,
like
I
stated
in
our
last
meeting,
this
is
merely
preemptive.
What
we're
doing
here
is
is
a
we're
defining
what
a
registry
is
for
preemptive
purposes
going
forward,
but
there
is
none.
None
of
my
knowledge
at
this
time
that
has
has
done
this.
F
Chairman
doggett
background
checks
are
perfectly
legal
now
this
is,
that
would
not
have
any
effect
from
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
chairman
doctor
for
bringing
this
legislation.
As
I
understand
it,
and
this
is
a
question
what
this
would
do
would
prohibit
any
state
law
enforcement
officer,
local
law
enforcement
officers
or
entities,
state
officials,
agents
from.
E
Recording
who
has
what
firearms,
what
citizens
have
it
and
then
providing
that
to
the
federal
government
if
there's
an
executive
order
from
this
administration
or
or
if
there's,
legislation
passed
by
this
congress,
that
would
require
identifying
who
owns
what
weapons
or
whatever,
and
this
would
just
say
well,
if
y'all
do,
that,
our
local
law
enforcement
state
and
local
law
enforcement
officers
and
entities
are
not
going
to
be
doing
any
of
that
work
you
are
going
to
have
to
do
it
on
your
own.
Is
that
a
fair
understanding,
kevin
duggan.
F
E
F
Chairman,
no
sir,
it
would
not.
A
Very
good
remember
just
a
reminder
we're
still
on
the
amendment,
so
any
other
questions
on
house
amendment:
six,
nine,
nine
six,
seeing
unless
I'm
ready
to
vote
to
adopt
house
amendment,
six,
nine,
nine
six
to
house
bill,
902,
all
those
favors
say
aye
aye
opposed,
say
no
eyes
have
it
now
we're
back
on
the
bills
amended
any
questions
on
the
bill
before
we
vote
see
and
done.
Looks
like
you're
ready
to
vote,
send
house
bill
902
as
amended
to
civil
justice,
full
committee,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
hi
say
no.
A
A
And
I'm
sorry
bill
dies
for
the
lack
of
a
second
sec.
Thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
item
four
house
bill
1023
by
representative
potts
and
that's
been
requested
to
be
sent
back
to
the
clerk's
desk
in
the
objection
cnn
house,
bill
1023
sent
back
to
the
clerk's
desk
and
members.
That
I
believe,
concludes
our
calendar
for
today.
Our
final
calendar-
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
that
has
served
on
this
committee
that
has
helped
this
committee
move
forward
this
year.
A
It's
been
a
pleasure
serving
and
working
with
every
person
in
this
room
each
week
we
may
not
always
agree
with
the
end
of
the
day,
hoping
hopefully
we're
all
hopeful
to
come
out
with
good
policy
and
good
legislation
that
that
is,
that
benefits
our
districts
and
and
tennesseans
and
and
all
those
surrounding
our
state
so
seeing
no
further
business.
The
civil
justice
subcommittee
is
closed,
subject
to
the
call
of
the
chair.