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House Commerce Committee- April 13, 2021
A
A
A
All
righty,
thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
sir.
Before
we
get
started
on
our
lengthy
calendar,
does
anyone
have
any
personal
orders
today,
personal
orders,
I
see
none
so
we're
going
to
get
right
into
our
calendar
and
first
up
we're
going
to
welcome
back
chairman,
hawk
chairman
hawk
going
to
talk
about.
I
believe
this
is
the
I
told
some
folks
today.
This
is
like
the
fountain
of
youth
bill.
We're
going
to
be
talking
about
estheticians,
so
chairman
hawk
you're
recognized
on
house
bill,
915.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members,
and
as
young
as
you
look.
You'll
never
need
this
process,
but
house
bill
915
was
filed
in
order
to
clear
up
a
problem
brought
to
us
by
a
2017
ag
opinion
the
opinion
states.
That
is,
you
knew
I
was
going
to
say
that
didn't
you
chairman,
non-medical
employees
at
a
med
spa
could
not
perform
micro
needling.
The
issue
at
hand
is
that
the
ag
did
not
consider
that
there
are
two
types
of
micro,
needling,
one
cosmetic
and
the
other,
a
medical
procedure.
B
A
Alrighty
and
we
have
a
motion
a
second
on
the
bill,
but
we're
not
in
proper
posture
on
amendment
number
one
do
I
have
a
motion
on
that
we
got
a
motion
and
a
second
that's
drafting
code
6779
for
those
of
you
scoring
at
home.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct,
all
right,
any
other
questions
for
our
bill
sponsor.
A
B
A
You
all
right,
thank
you
all
right.
We're
voting
on
the
amendment
amendment
6679,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
No,
there
are
none.
Now
we're
back
to
the
bill.
Any
questions
on
the
bill
for
the
sponsor
question
on
the
bill,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
No
hearing,
none
chairman
hawk
you're.
B
A
A
Therefore,
all
those
all
those
in
favor
of
voting
on
amendment
number
one
attaching
amendment
one,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
any
oppose
no
eyes
have
it
you're
attached
to
the
bill.
I
can't
believe
I've
got
a
million
of
them
all
those
in
favor
of
house
bill.
965,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
no
house
bill.
965
is
going
to
finance
representative
bricken
all
right
next
on
our
calendar
is
house
bill
204
by
leader,
camper
leader
camper.
We
had
had
some
discussions
with
regards
to
this.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes
we
did.
I
want
to
appreciate
the
subcommittee
chair
and
you
working
with
me
on
this
bill
when
we
were
in
subcommittee.
Mr
chairman,
we
talked
about
some
amendatory
language
which
I
had
drafted.
We
did
not
adopt
it
because
we
were
still
in
the
process,
but
you
did
allow
us
to
move
to
full
committee
to
continue
the
conversation.
So
I
appreciate
you
and
the
chairman
working
with
me
on
that
at
this
time,
we're
still
at
the
table
we're
still
talking
about
it.
D
We've
brought
in
safety,
nfib
chamber
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
everybody's
position
is
looked
at
everybody's
at
the
table.
Talking
about
it-
and
I
appreciate
you
working
with
me
on
this
as
well,
mr
chairman,
so
we're
gonna,
I'm
gonna
ask
the
members
if
they
don't
mind
supporting
me
to
roll
this
bill
to
first
calendar
next
year
and
then
maybe
over
the
summer,
we'll
have
our
differences
worked
out
and
we
can
come
back
with
a
comprehensive
bill
to
address
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
legislation.
Mr
chairman,.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
later
camper,
and
let
me
say
this
is
I'm
not
sure
that
everyone
had
had
a
chance
or
got
a
chance
to
see
the
the
amendment
that
leader
camper
had
drafted.
She
sent
it
to
us
and
I
will
say
that
it
touched
on
all
of
the
issues
that
we
had
discussed
in
our
subcommittee
meeting.
It
was
done
in
good
faith,
and
I
saw
that-
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
without
without
objection,
we're
going
to
send
that
to
the
first
calendar
of
next
year.
A
All
righty
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
let's,
let's
get
that
well
I'll.
Tell
you
what,
even
since
that
rewrites
the
bill,
why
don't
we
get
that
attached
to
the
bill?
We'll
take
an
explanation
of
both
of
these
items
after
we've,
after
improper
posture
with
the
bill
itself?
That
sounds
good.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
amendment
number
attaching
amendment
one
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
oppose
no
amendment.
One
is
on
the
bill
now.
Amendment
number
two,
our
drafting
code
is
69.
34.
A
got
a
motion,
got
a
motion
in
a
second
same
on
this
one,
all
those
in
favor
of
attaching
amendment
two
to
to
house
bill.
749,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
righty.
We
are
in
good
shape.
With
regards
to
our
amendment,
what
we're
considering
chairman
boyd?
What's
up
it's
to
you,
sir.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee,
mr
chairman
house,
bill
749
is
a
bill.
That's
brought
by
the
safe
building
practices
coalition,
that's
actually
an
umbrella
of
the
tennessee
chamber
of
commerce.
This
bill
has
been
absolutely
a
work
in
progress.
I
we
have.
We
have
made
adjustments
to
it
and
have
amended
it,
and
we
have
worked
in
collaboration
with
local
governments
from
around
the
state,
and
we
have
we've
really
worked
at
this
to
get
it
to
where
I,
I
believe
local
government
is
very
comfortable
with
this
at
this
point.
E
What
this
bill
would
do
is
it
would
basically
create
a
process
when
a
local
government
adopts
any
codes
that
affect
building
materials.
It
basically
says
that,
and
just
to
clarify
in
some
places
there
may
be
a
committee
that
puts
together
codes
and
then
they
just
start
enforcing
it.
That
power
has
been
delegated
to
them
by
the
by
the
legislative
body
of
that
local
government
and
in
some
places
that
that
committee
puts
together
the
codes,
then
it's
adopted
by
the
city
council
or
the
county
commission.
E
What
this
bill
would
do
would
be
to
create
a
a
process
by
which
we
would
see
it
uniform
across
the
state,
and
it
will
create
a
compliant
way
to
adopt
those.
And
so
what
ultimately
would
happen
is
whatever
codes
are
put
together
by
by
the
codes
committee
would
have
to
go
through
the
local
legislative
body
on
two
separate
days,
two
hearings
and
would
have
to
be
passed
by
a
simple
majority.
E
And,
mr
chairman,
the
the
second
amendment
that
we
that
we
put
on
there
added
something
in
there.
Just
to
clarify
that
this
subdivision
does
not
limit
the
professional
judgment
of
a
design
professional
with
respect
to
electrical
mechanical
or
plumbing
standards,
and
I'm
very
happy
to
put
that
on
there.
I
think
that
needed
to
be
in
there.
But,
mr
chairman
I'll,
take
any
questions
that
the
committee
has.
F
E
The
sponsor,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
what
this
bill?
What
what
would
happen
there
was
some
discussion
about
and,
and
I
there
are
two
different
spectrums
here-
there
are
some
folks
that
are
on
the
side
of
building
materials
and
wanted
to
make
sure
that
no
city
could
in
any
way
prohibit
them
and
then,
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
A
Before
before
I
come
back
to
you
for
a
follow-up
representative
alexander,
let
me
state
this
is
that
this
is.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
I
know
a
little
bit.
This
is
how
I
earn
my
my
pay
on
a
normal
basis
is
dealing
with
these
issues
with
towns
and
local
municipalities
and
counties
and
such
through
the
real
estate
development
process.
A
This
bill
will
it
does
not
impact
any
development
that
has
already
been
vested
in
its
rights.
If,
if
somebody
has
approved
something
and
they've
spent
money
towards
it,
then
then
they
are
vested
in
those
rights,
and
this
bill
would
not
undo
that,
but
as
far
as
the
areas
of
application
for
this
bill,
it
does
not
affect
subdivisions
that
have
private
codes
and
restrictions.
A
A
developer
can
make
any
rule
that
he
wants
to
with
regards
to
how
he
wants
his
his
neighborhood
to
look,
he
could
restrict
it
to
one
building
material
if
he
wants
to,
and
the
people
who
buy
in
there
then
could
follow
that.
You
know
that
that
the
private
codes
and
covenants-
that's
something
that
is
done
through
a
separate
instrument.
It's
not
a
municipal
entitlement
or
permit
process.
The
other
development
type
that
this
does
not
really
pay
doesn't
really
affect
is
a
planned
unit.
Development.
A
A
planned
unit
development
is
a
situation
where
a
developer
has
a
subdivision
that
he
wants
to
develop,
but
he
doesn't
want
to
follow
the
city's
codes
exactly,
and
so
everything
in
that
point
becomes
a
negotiated
settlement
of
what's
in
and
what's
out,
and
so
when
a
planned
development
is
approved.
If,
if
the
city
tells
the
developer
said,
listen,
we
love
what
you're
trying
to
do
here.
We
love
that
concept,
but
we
want
to
see
the
majority
of
these
homes
in
here
brick,
because
it's
it's
okay
with
the
surrounding
areas.
A
We
think
that
it's
near
a
downtown
whatever
their
reason
is,
then
the
rules
are
somewhat
suspended
because
it's
a
negotiated
settlement.
The
developer
could
just
use
the
regular
zoning
ordinances
and
the
process
is
set
up
by
that,
but
he's
negotiating
for
a
little
extra
to
do
things
that
are
outside
the
scope
of
the
norm,
and
so
at
that
point
in
time
this
municipalities
have
the
same
same
way
to
push
back
a
little
bit.
A
So,
in
those
two
instances
this
is
not
really
applicable,
but
where
it
is
applicable
is
if
you
just
have
a
straight
subdivided
piece
of
property,
and
somebody
wants
to
go
in
and
develop
build
their
home.
Well,
this
keeps
somebody
from
arbitrarily
saying
I
know
how
your
house
should
look
and
it
hasn't
been
as
through
a
process
of
approval
by
the
local
officials.
It's
someone
making
a
decision
arbitrarily
sometimes
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
prevent
here
of
restricting
materials
in
that
regard.
A
You
don't
want
the
next
person
to
come
in
and
have
a
lower
barrier
to
entry,
or
do
something
that's
going
to
detract
from
the
investment
that
you
made
in
those
property
values,
and
so
what
this
bill
contemplates
is
that
we'll
basically
have
to
re-adopt
those
ordinances
that
we
already
have,
because
out
of
the
two
municipalities
that
I
represent,
one
has
a
I
read
through
its
design
guidelines.
Last
night,
no
reference
to
building
material,
specific
building
materials.
A
One
has
a
short
list
of
six
bullet
point
items
that
will
need
to
be
removed
from
their
drc,
but
in
the
meantime
they
can
still
control
the
design
aspects
of
their
community
in
the
way
it
looks
through
their
existing
ordinances.
So
I
don't
think
that
what
has
been
somewhat
misguided
in
this
in
the
review
of
this
bill
is
the
fact
that
we're
changing
design
standards
we're
not
doing
that
at
all.
A
What
we're
doing
is
we're
saying,
building
materials
come
and
go,
their
appearance
comes
and
goes,
their
performance
comes
and
goes
with
technology,
and
so
what
you
can't
arbitrarily
say
that
a
specific
building
material
is
prohibited
within
a
jurisdiction,
and
that
was
a
thousand
words
to
give
a
ten
word
answer.
But
I
hope
that
everybody
understands
that.
I
hope
I
didn't
confuse
anybody
further
and
with
that
later
you
had
a
follow-up.
F
For
the
overlays
that
we
have
already
in
process
in
cities,
we
have
one
in
my
town
where
we
it's
called
the
med
tech
corridor
and
everything.
In
that
thing,
we
were
very
it's
very
open
to
the
public
when
we
made
those
original
things,
but
to
have
to
go
back
and
redo
all
those
again
to
make
sure
somebody
doesn't
come
in
and
decide
to
put
a
vinyl
building
in
the
middle
of
a
a
whole
section
of
area.
That's
all
brick!
F
That's
done
for
a
specific
reason.
The
other
concern
I
have
is
I
live
in
a
historical
town
in
jonesboro
also,
and
we
have
we
have
what's
to
keep
someone
from
coming
in
and
putting
a
metal
building
in
the
middle
of
a
historical
section.
These
are
just
some
real
concerns.
I
have
with
this
bill
when
we're
saying
that
we've
got
to
go
back
and
all
these
municipalities
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
and
redo
all
of
the
the
the
building
materials
that
are
required
if
you're
a
building
in
a
certain
area.
F
E
Historical
districts
are,
this
does
not
affect
them,
anything
that
has
to
be
done
there.
The
anything
that
has
project
that
has
preliminary
approval
or
has
already
been
done
is
vested.
What
this
would
do,
though,
is
in
their
codes
if
they,
if
their
codes,
involve
any
sort
of
building
material,
either
exclusion-
or
you
can
only
use
this
product
except
to
run
it
through
the
city
council.
We've
worked
a
lot.
E
There
have
been
some
cities
across
the
state
that
had
concerns
with
this
and
honestly
rightly
so,
early
on,
even
as
the
bill
sponsor,
I
had
some
concerns
with
the
bill,
and
I
have
been
very
pleased
with
with
the
collaboration
between
the
cities
and
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
and
the
safe
building
practices
coalition
as
they've
come
together
and
they've
ironed
out
all
the
differences.
At
this
point,
I
I
don't
see
any
I
mean
they've
they've,
taken
it
down
to
a
level
that
the
city
said.
E
You
know
we
don't
even
want
to
do
two-thirds
majority,
we
want
a
simple
majority
and
they
were
willing
to
give
on
that
issue.
So
at
this
point
it
should
be
pretty
simple
for
cities
to
take
their
codes
and
just
run
it
back
through
the
the
legislative
body
and
get
approval
of
that,
and
you
can
still
have
overlays.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Mr
chairman,
mr
sponsor,
my
question
was
around
homeowners
associations.
Sometimes
they
have
some
particular
way
they
want
things
to
be
within
that
homeowners
association.
Will
this
affect
any
of
that,
or
is
it
similar
to
what
you're
saying
about
the
historic
districts,
what
power
or
or.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
just
a
clarification.
If
I
understood
the
sponsor
correctly,
then
the
city
council
would
have
to
go
back
and
just
reformulate
these
restrictions
through
an
open
process.
So
everybody
would
be
know
that
those
things
were
going
to
be
voted
on.
You
know
the
notice
given
and
all
that.
C
So
my
question
is-
and
I
understand
that
things
that
are
already
approved
or
they're
good
to
go.
But
what
happens
because
there's
a
there's
a
timeline
requirement
when
you
do
these
new
ordinances
and
procedures
so
that
you
have
to
have
you
know
so
many
days,
public
notice
and
you
have
to
have
first
and
second
readings
and
then
approval
and
all
that.
So
are
we
creating
a
timeline
in
there
a
hole
where
somebody
could
come
in
and
get
something
under
construction
without
being
restricted.
E
A
A
It's
my
understanding
that
that
is
correct,
because
what
you
talk
about
there
in
your
design
standard
suddenly
becomes
what's
appropriate
for
the
area.
What
blends
in
with
the
area?
What
does
not?
You
know,
because
let's
say
that
let's
use
a
different
scenario,
and
that
is
glass
glass
is
an
approved
material.
Everybody
loves
glass,
but
an
all
glass
building
is
not
appropriate
in
every
area.
A
You
don't
want
a
new
modern
design
in
the
middle
of
a
historic
section,
and
so
that
may
be
inappropriate,
even
though
it's
a
perfectly
good
material,
and
so
it
that's.
Why
I'm
saying
this
bill
that
that
chairman
boyd
has
brought
forward,
does
not
contemplate
the
regulation
of
the
design
process.
All
it
does
is
keep
cities
from
prohibiting
arbitrarily
materials
that,
in
other
words
in
an
appropriate
standpoint,
may
be
perfectly
fine,
but
they've
been
outlawed
or
outlawed.
It's
not
a
good
term,
but
they've
been
restricted
from
use
and
all
over
jurisdiction.
E
Mr
chairman,
you
are
well
versed
on
these
issues
and-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
a
lot
of
that,
so
I
I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
what
you
said.
It's
it's
very
well
said
and
the
the
one
point
that
I
would
I
would
make-
and
this
is
kind
of
backing
up
to.
I
think
something
you
asked
a
second
ago.
You
you
don't.
Basically
it
creates
a
a
pathway
for
cities
to
not
necessarily
ban
a
product,
but
then
so
so,
let's
use
the
the
vinyl
thing
you
were
talking
about.
E
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to
thank
chairman
boyd
for
the
legislation.
I
see
it
as
a
deregulation
somewhat.
If
you
will
one
reason
I'm
for
it
is
because
we've
got
a
housing
crisis
in
middle
tennessee,
affordable
housing
crisis.
You
know,
look
out
and
I
see
lobbyists
in
the
room.
I
don't
see
nobody
lobbying
for
affordable
housing.
I've
never
met
that
person
bought
my
first
house
at
22.
I
see
jabrie
back
here,
rage,
hand
debris,
you
know
not
many
young
people
in
audience
gonna
be
able
to
buy
a
home
at
22
or
25
or
27.
G
being
around
politics
for
19
years
serving
on
the
planet.
Committee
chairman
I've
seen
the
good,
the
bad
and
the
ugly
seen
the
ugly
joe
towns.
I
really
have
no
disrespect,
sir
I've
seen
it.
I
just
want
to
share
something
with
you,
because
a
lot
of
my
mentors
are
passing
away.
They're
older
guys.
They
had
a
lot
of
wisdom,
world
war
ii
generation,
the
greatest
generation.
G
One
time
I
went
to
a
planning
committee
in
rutherford
county
and
they
may
get
mad
at
me.
Sharing
this,
but
that's
okay.
They
want
to
impose
sprinkler
systems
chairman
boyd
sprinkler
systems.
On
new
homes,
so
I
go
to
speak
and
I
just
asked
them.
I
said
how
many
of
y'all
got
a
sprinkler
system
in
your
own
house.
G
Nobody
on
the
committee
had
a
sprinkle
system.
The
chairman
didn't
have
a
sprinkle
system.
The
building
codes
directed
him
spring
system,
the
fire
chief
didn't
have
a
sprinkler
system,
two
guys
had
their
hands
held
up,
y'all
know
who
they
were
gerald.
You
know
they
were.
They
were
lobbyists
for
the
sprinkling
systems,
association
pam.
G
G
G
A
A
No,
so
we're
gonna
add
licensed
on
that
and
then
without
objection,
we're
gonna
roll
amendment,
one
and
two
together,
one
two
and
three
together.
Okay.
Now,
then
we
got
a
question
on
the
bill.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed,
let
your
nose
be
registered
with
the
clerks,
but
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you
and
let
me
say
something
before
we.
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
going,
but
I
want
to
say
something
say:
thank
you
to
our
legal
staff.