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House - Criminal Justice Subcommittee - April 4, 2023
A
A
A
C
Sir,
the
one
we're
going
with
is
7085
I
think
it's
the
last
one
filed
you're
recognized
on
the
amendment.
Thank
you,
members.
If
I
give
me
a
second
just
to
address
what
this
bill
is
all
about.
If
you
can
see
for
the
number
of
amendments
we've
been
working
on
this
really
since
January
representative
Gillespie
has
also
been
working
with
me.
Being
that
he's
also
from
the
community
of
Memphis,
where
I
am
this
particular
bill,
House
Bill
430,
is
one
that
we
are
working
on.
C
Many
of
these
are
aggravated
thefts
by
those
that
are
under
the
age
of
18.,
based
on
juvenile
court
figures.
In
2022,
the
500
juveniles
were
charged
with
serious,
violent
and
delinquent
acts
in
Shelby
County
leading
violent
crime
charges
were
aggravated
assault,
carjackings
aggravated
robbery
in
Tennessee
juvenile
sentence
to
the
juvenile
courts.
There's
an
arbitrary
end
of
jurisdiction
by
their
19th
birthday.
C
Currently,
in
Tennessee
there
are
only
two
ways
to
deal
with
the
violent
juveniles
who
commit
what
we
would
call
the
class
A,
B
or
C
felony.
If
they
were
committed
by
adults,
you
can
keep
them
in
juvenile
court
detention
until
19.,
at
which
time
they
go
scot-free,
no
matter
what
the
crime
is
or
they
can
be
transferred
to
adult
court
now
last
year
about
one
percent
of
those
were
transferred,
adult
Court,
so
the
others,
where
are
they
they're
walking
the
streets?
C
So
it's
time
that
we
have
to
come
up
the
new
set
of
solutions
for
those
who
are
are
juveniles
we're
head?
We
have
a
third
option
in
this.
It's
called
Blended
sentencing.
Roughly
20
states
have
some
form
of
extended
sentences
for
serious
juvenile
offenders.
Tennessee
does
not.
Let
me
give
you
an
example.
C
A
17
year
old,
juvenile
is
sentenced
from
multiple
carjackings
cannot
be
reasonably
rehabilitated
in
less
than
two
years,
yet
they
are
required
by
Tennessee
law
to
be
released
on
their
19th
birthday,
and
we
add
this
Our
Gang
adult
members
know
this
and
they
are
using
these
juveniles
to
commit
these
crimes
because
they
know
this
when
a
juvenile
is
16
years
or
older
and
has
committed
multiple
felonies,
they
will
be
designated
as
a
serious
youthful
offender.
Now
we
have
many
youth
offenders,
they're
down
to
12
13
14
15..
C
This
bill
addresses
those
16
and
up
so
under
this
this
particular
bill
a
when
a
juvenile
is
16
years
older
there
and
they
commit
multiple
felonies.
As
I
said,
they
will
be
designated
as
a
serious
youthful
offender.
A
serious
youthful
offender
will
receive
two
sentences
under
blood
and
sentencing
a
juvenile
sentence
to
be
served
until
their
19th
birthday
and
then
an
adult
sentence
that
will
end
no
later
than
their
24th
birthday.
Any
juvenile
sentence
will
be
what
is
currently
available
on
the
juvenile
court.
We
are
not
changing
current
juvenile
court
code.
C
Currently,
they
are
either
under
Community
Supervision
or
place
in
the
facility
for
delinquents.
The
adult
sentence
beyond
the
offender's
19
birthday
would
include
the
following
minimum
times:
four
years
for
a
class,
a
felony
three
years
for
a
class
B
felony
and
two
years
for
Class
C
felonies,
the
adult
sentence
can
be
stayed
during
a
hearing
to
be
held
within
four
months
of
the
offender's
19th
birthday.
C
Now
we
give
them
options
hoping
that
they
will
listen
while
they're
still
in
juvenile
detention.
Things
factors
that
they
the
judge
and
can
consider
have
they
committed
any
more
crimes.
During
that
time,
are
they
engaged
in
any
of
the
conduct
that
creates
a
substantial
safety
Rich
to
safety
risk
to
the
community?
C
Have
they
failed
to
meet
conditions
of
supervision?
Also,
thanks
to
their
credit,
did
they
remain
in
school
and
graduate
with
passing
grades
and
have
they
been
involved
in
activities
beneficial
to
the
community
and
do
they
have
a
job?
Any
sentence
out
of
the
offender's
19th
birthday
may
include
a
period
of
confinement,
probation
or
a
combination.
C
C
Otherwise
they
go
immediately
to
adult
prison
and
wait
for
trial
for
the
second
offense,
and
we
have
worked
on
this
bill
for
for
months,
trying
it's
very
hard
to
change
the
laws
on
juvenile
crime,
but
juvenile
crime
is
different
than
it
was
20
years
ago
30
years
ago,
and
we
have
seriously
aggravated
crimes
being
committed
against
our
communities.
So
we've
come
up
this
Blended
sentencing
where
we
can
hold
them
to
age,
20,
at
least
to
age
24,
depending
on
a
B
or
C
felony,
and
with
that
explanation,
I'm
here
to
entertain
any
questions.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
on
the
amendment
representative,
Gillespie
you'll.
Wait
any
questions
on
the
amendment
for
the
sponsor,
so
you
know
we're
going
to
vote
to
attach
Amendment
code
7085
on
the
house
bill
430,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
as
opposed
highest
Prevail
you
adopt.
We
are
on
the
bill
as
amended.
We
do
have
testimony
here
or
I'm.
Sorry,
they're
available
for
questions,
disregard
representative,
Gillespie.
D
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
chairman
chairman
white,
thank
you
for
bringing
the
Sunday.
We
we've
been
meeting
both
publicly
and
private
about
the
since
pretty
much
the
end
of
last
session.
Don't
know
how
many
meetings
we
had
together
collectively
with
different
DA's
Ada's
judges,
community
members.
This
is
certainly
the
right
direction.
It's
the
direction,
that's
needed
right
now.
D
We
are
living
in
a
state
of
fear
in
Memphis
in
the
surrounding
area,
and
it
is
almost
entirely
because
of
juveniles,
committing
violent
crimes
that
are
going
unpunished
and
that
behavior
will
continue
I
believe
until
we
say
that
it's
no
longer
allowed,
and
this
will
set
that
message.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
on
behalf
of
the
70
plus
thousand
people
I
represent.
Thank
you.
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much
for
that
comment
and
all
support
and
all
the
legislation
you're
carrying.
Let
me
give
you
one
more
tube
I've
lived
in
Memphis
since
I
was
a
teenager
in
1966.,
it's
a
great
community
and
it
breaks
my
heart
that
we're
going
through
what
we
have
right.
Now,
law-abiding
residents
went
to
a
Grizzly
game
the
other
night
when
they
come
out.
140
car
windows
are
smashed.
C
That's
wrong.
We've
got
to
get
a
handle
on
this.
I
got
an
email
from
a
gentleman
the
day
that
works
at
FedEx.
He
said,
I
just
resigned.
Fedex
I've
got
two
small
kids
I'm
moving
out.
We
cannot
afford
to
let
that
happen.
That
is
wrong.
We
have
got
to
do
something
about
these
juveniles
who
are
out
of
control.
E
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
chairman
and
I,
understand
and
agree
with
you
and
in
favor
of
your
bill.
I
just
have
a
couple
questions.
I
I,
think
in
legal
I
believe
concurs
that
before
you
can
send
somebody
to
an
adult
prison
or
Penitentiary.
They
have
to
have
the
the
right
to
have
a
jury
trial
right.
How
does
that
play
in
with
what
you
have
if
you
have
a
juvenile
who's,
18
and
you're,
going
to
keep
them
to
24?
Is
there
a
place
in
there
that
they're
offered
a
jury
trial
before
they
go
to
the
penitentiary?
E
C
We
we
did
leave
in
in
there,
and
this
was
a
topic
of
debate,
but
we
left
in
the
DA's
discretion
on
on
this.
There
were
some
versions
that
said,
let's
take
all
discretion
away
from
juvenile
court
as
well
as
the
D.A.
So,
but
we
left
that
in
there
so
we're
going
to
see
how
well
our
district
attorney
does
in
the
future
on
these
issues.
But,
yes,
there's
a
part.
It
says
that
when
the
adult
sentenced
four
months
before
it
would
go
before
a
judge
and
I
understand,
it
is
a
jury.
C
E
C
Thank
you
very
much.
That
has
been
a
big
consideration.
We
have
had
Senator
Taylor
in
the
sentence
care
in
this
we've
had
multiple
conversations
with
her
D.A
and
we
we've
expressed
that
we
almost
ran
the
other
one
where
they're
asking
us
not
to
so
we're
giving
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
if
it
doesn't
work
out
I'm
coming
back
here
next
January
and
we're
going
to
run
it
the
other
way.
A
A
A
A
We
address
where
shelter
is
here
in
the
amendment
structure,
can
can
constructed
of
sound
and
substantial
material
sufficient
enough
to
protect
the
dog
from
inclement
weather
and
is
of
size
appropriate
to
allow
the
dog
to
maintain
normal
body
temperature.
The
structure
must
also
have
a
roof
and
be
enclosed
on
all
sides,
with
an
entrance
of
adequate
size
for
the
dog
to
enter
and
have
Dimensions
that
allow
the
dog,
while
in
the
shelter
to
stand,
sit,
turn
and
lie
down
in
normal
positions.
Shelter
also
provides
solid
surface
resting
platforms,
pads
formats
or
other
similar
device.
A
A
It
also
addresses
the
cold
months
as
to
how
the
the
shelters
supposed
to
be
prepared,
in
addition
to
states
that
it
should
be
a
sufficient
size
or
or
number
to
provide
shelter
to
each
dog
at
the
present
time
and
there's
also
some
exclusions
that
do
not
apply
when
the
dog
is
actively
engaged
in
lawful
hunting,
police
or
Military,
Work,
Patrol,
work,
detection,
work,
search
and
rescue
herding
or
livestock
guarding
trials
or
other
lawful
competitions,
service
or
assistant,
work,
sporting,
competitive
functions
and
so
forth.
A
A
G
G
We
basically
are
addressing
those
individuals
who
intentionally
earn
knowingly,
does
not
meet
these
standards
or
tortures
an
animal,
and
so
that's
all
we're
trying
to
do
the
the
first
offense
is
a
Class
C
misdemeanor
second
offense
would
be
a
Class
E
felony
we're
just
starting
to
see
a
lot
more
of
this,
our
Sheriff's
Department,
my
Sheriff's,
the
one
that
brought
me
this
bill.
The
Departments
are
starting
to
see
this
kind
of
Takeover
in
certain
areas.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide
adequate
shelter,
food
and
and
just
good
behavior
with
animals.
A
H
And
I
was
so
excited
to
sit
with
this.
My
beloved
committee
again
this
morning,
Mr
chair,
I
I,
don't
believe
I
have
any
amendments
today
and
I'm
bringing
this
this
bill
and
what
it
does
is.
It
gives
the
the
judge,
the
ability
to
enhance
the
sentence
for
someone
who
is
using
juveniles
or
children
in
commissions
of
crimes.
You
just
heard
representative
chairman
white
talk
about
the
windows
busted
out
in
in
the
FedEx
forum.
H
Typically,
this
is
done
by
juveniles.
You'll
have
an
adult
that
is,
gets
them
together
in
in
the
commission
of
these
crimes,
and
because
of
that,
this
was
brought
to
me
by
one
of
the
Memphis
Senators
due
to
the
problem
that
they're
having
down
there,
we're
also
having
here
and
also
many
other
communities
throughout
Tennessee.
A
Thank
you
very
much
members
leader
Lambeth,
you
recognized
question
on
the
bill.
Question
been
called
any
objections,
seeing
no
we're
voting
to
send
House
Bill
381
on
the
full
criminal,
all
those
in
favor,
say,
aye,
I,
suppose
he's
Prevail
you
move
forward!
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
and
beloved
committee.
It's
a
pleasure
to
see
you
again.
A
I
I
I
I
The
purpose
of
the
committee
is
to
strengthen
the
relationship
between
citizens
and
law
enforcement
agencies
to
ensure
a
timely,
fair
and
objective
review
of
citizens
complaints
while
protecting
the
individual
rights
of
local
Law
Enforcement
Officers.
The
committee
will
make
recommendations
concerning
citizen
complaints
to
the
head
of
law
enforcement.
The
committee
will
consist
of
seven
members
that
are
appointed
by
the
mayor
with
approval
by
that
governing
body.
J
Chairman,
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
know
we
have
dealt
with
this
issue
really
for
several
years
on
on
what
exact
exact
criteria
we
should
have
for
oversight
boards
I
think
they're
very
helpful.
They
work
in
most
of
our
communities
but
to
have
those
type
of
guardrails
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
staying
in
their
Lane
and
that
they
are
advisory.
J
We
should
hold
our
Mayors
and
our
police
Chiefs,
and
our
Command
Staff
in
our
different
police
departments,
to
a
very
high
standard,
much
higher
standard
than
really
any
other
entity
out
there
and
they're
comfortable
with
that.
But
you
don't
need
a
secondary
entity
that
that
is
doing
the
exact
same
thing
that
that
Command,
Staff
and
mayor's
office
and
everything
else
is
doing
having
a
second
entity
that's
objective
and
is
able
to
make
recommendations
and
really
oversight
for
that
is
really
helpful.
So
I,
like
the
balance
you've
struck
with
this,
that
preserves
the
citizen
oversight.
J
Boards
doesn't
do
away
with
them,
but
it
does
put
those
guardrails
in
place.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill
and
just
want
to
say
you
know,
you're
kind
of
taking
it
to
the
next
step,
to
make
sure
we
keep
all
that
where
we
we
applaud
our
police,
but
we
we
do
make
sure
that
the
community
has
a
voice
and
holding
them
accountable
for
any
Bad
actors.
So
thank
you.
A
Other
questions
for
the
sponsor,
on
the
amendment
all
right
question
to
call
on
the
amendment
any
objection:
CNN
we're
voting
to
attach
Amendment
code
6990
on
to
House,
Bill
764,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
Those
opposed
he's
prevailed.
You
adopt.
We
are
back
on
764
as
a
minute.
Don't
go
anywhere
hold
up,
hold
up,
hold
up,
hold
up
we're
not
through.
A
All
right
members,
any
any
questions
on
the
bill
for
the
sponsor
I
do
know
that
there
were
several
that
had
attempted
to
sign
up
for
testimony
on
this
bill
Unfortunately.
They
did
not
meet
the
24-hour
deadline
for
the
the
requirements
to
be
able
to
testify
so
providing
that
this
bill
does
move
forward
if
it
is
to
get
a
favorable
vote
and
move
to
the
full
committee.
Those
that
wish
to
testify
can
notify
the
full
chair
at
that
at
that
time,
in
their
testimony
will
be
heard
in
that
committee.
A
A
A
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'll,
be
brief:
Amendment
5582,
it
rewrites
the
bill
and
it
sets
up
a
pilot
program
in
Shelby
County
or
any
County
via
a
resolution
by
the
local
legislative
body,
with
two-thirds
vote
and
local
funding.
Mr
chairman
I
have
individuals
who
want
to
be
heard
on
that.
So
the
amendment
on
making
it
available
to
the
public
I
want
to
take
that
bill
off
notice.
A
K
You
Mr
chairman,
my
explanation
of
the
amendment
is
an
explanation
of
the
bill
as
amended.
So
I
would
like
to
take
the
bill
off
notice
at
this
point.
A
A
A
L
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
chairman
in
committee.
What
this
bill
simply
does
is
well
I've
started
to
read
the
wrong
thing.
L
This
will
authorize
a
judge
to
consider
defendant's
administrative
record
of
violence
Behavior
while
incarcerated,
regardless
of
whether
the
defendant
was
charged
or
convicted
for
such
acts
for
purposes
of
considering
whether
to
order
a
defendant
to
serve
multiple
sentences
consecutively,
and
so
this,
of
course,
would
be
a
deterrent
for
our
inmates
to
commit
felonies
and
misdemeanors,
while
in
prison,
whether
it's
against
an
inmate
or
any
of
our
state
employees
that
work
inside
and
with
that
I
renew.
My
motion.
M
A
E
N
N
L
What
this
will
actually,
if
an
inmate
commits
a
crime
while
incarcerated,
they
may
will
be
tried
for
that
offense
and
the
sentence
will
be
added
on
to
the
end
of
the
current
sentence,
and
that
would
be
any
crime
against
an
inmate
or
those
working.
Our
state
employees
working
insane
very.
L
K
You,
chairman
and
good
morning,
chair
lady
good.
L
K
The
level
of
proof
for
an
administrative
finding
can
you
kind
of
discuss
that
with
us?
It's
not
merely
accusations,
but
that's
the
inmate
get
a
chance
to
defend,
put
on
proof,
Etc.
O
Michelle
Fogerty
Legal
Services.
The
amendment
actually
just
requires
the
warden
to
report
the
offense
to
the
district
attorney
within
five
business
days
of
being
made
aware
of
the
offense.
That's
what
the
amendment
does.
It
just
requires
the
warden
to
report
the
commission
of
the
offense
to
the
district
attorney.
Okay,.
K
No,
sir,
that
that
answers
all
of
my
questions.
Thank.
N
Legal
under
that
explanation,
whoever
the
the
potential
and
persons
committed
infraction
they
will
actually
like
go
through
the
process
of
having
I
guess
a
trial
to
make
sure
that
they
have
violated
according
to
what
has
been
reported.
Would
that
be
the
case
with
that.
O
It
would
be
up
to
the
district
attorney.
It
would
be
their
discretion
as
to
whether
or
not
to
bring
charges
for
the
offense
and
conduct
and
and
prosecute
it.
The
amendment
also
does
allow
for
a
sentence,
enhancement
factor
for
consecutive
sentence.
If
the
defendant
is
convicted
of
an
offense
that
occurred
while
they
were
incarcerated.
N
L
Well,
with
that,
I
think
we've
all
heard
from
our
state
employees,
especially-
and
we
know,
there's
it's
hard
for
them
to
hire
more
people
to
come
in
and
it's
a
it's
amazing
I
encourage
you
have.
Probably
most
of
you
have
already
visited
prisons
in
your
area
and
know
about
those
employees
and
the
need
for
their
protection
on
the
inside
too.
So
with
that
I
renew
my
emotion.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and,
and
this
one
just
hit
me,
can
the
D.A
and
that
might
be
for
legal?
Can
the
D.A
pick
up
that
administrative
charge
and
pursue
criminal
charges
if
it
merits.
O
Michelle
Fogerty
Legal
Services,
the
amendment
doesn't
say
anything
about
administrative
charges.
It
just
requires
the
warden
to
notify
the
district
attorney
of
a
of
an
act
that
was
committed
while
in
the
in
the
prison,
and
then
then
the
prosecutor
has
the
same
discretion.
They
have
in
regards
to
every
other
criminal
offense
as
to
whether
or
not
to
prosecute.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
for
legal,
while
we're
out
of
session,
seeing
them
we're
going
back
in
all
right.
Representative
Moody,
we're
back
on
your
bill.
Question's
been
called
any
objections,
seeing
none
we're
voting
to
send
House
Bill
1459
as
amended
to
full
criminal
law,
those
in
favor
say
aye
those
opposed
eyes
Prevail.
You
move
forward.
Thank.
L
E
Thank
you.
The
amendment
makes
the
bill
this.
This
also
came
out
of
an
ad
hoc
meeting.
We
had
this
summer.
It
deals
with
awarding
credits
for
good,
institutional,
behavior
and
penitentiaries.
That,
of
course,
take
days
off
of
the
sentence
and
what
this
amendment
says
and
it
makes
the
bill.
It
says
that
an
inmate
must
complete
a
department,
approved
validated
risk
and
needs
assessment
and
participate
in
programming
employment
in
order
for
the
inmate
to
be
eligible
to
earn
good
time
credits.
E
This
needs
assessment
is
a
real
big
instrument,
that's
used
in
in
tdoc
to
establish
what
kind
of
programming
an
inmate
needs
and
and
what
his
needs
are
when
they
don't
participate.
Of
course,
it
throws
a
monkey
wrench
in
in
the
middle
of
everything
else,
exactly
what
they
need
and
how
to
program
to
get
them
what
they
need.
It
also
factors
in
on
on
parole
issues
too.
So
what
this
bill
says
is
is,
if
you
don't
participate,
you
can
earn
sentencing
credits.
A
A
E
F
E
Motion
a
second:
do
you
want
to
attach
it
or
explain
we
can
attach
it
if
you
like,
all
right,
we're
voting
on
Amendment
6145,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
opposed.
No
Amendment
goes
on
the
bill.
You
can
now
explain
it
chairman.
A
A
Such
information,
including
the
defendant's
prior
criminal
history,
active
criminal
cases,
active
warrants,
will
enable
these
officials
to
be
better
informed
and
make
better
informed
decisions
on
various
matters.
Regarding
the
defendant's
case,
it'll
accomplish
this
through
two
requirements
requiring
a
defendant
within
the
state
who
fails
to
appear
in
a
court
on
any
felony
Class,
A,
misdemeanor
or
Class
B
misdemeanor
to
be
put
into
all
available
databases
such
as
ncic
or
the
Tennessee
criminal
history
index
no
later
than
10
days
after
the
defendant
misses
court
or
fails
to
appear.
A
It
also
requires
any
arresting
agency
within
the
state
to
print
out
the
data
on
all
new
arrestees.
From
the
aforementioned
databases,
resulting
printout
is
to
be
placed
into
the
respective
criminal
defendants
file.
Any
questions
that
you
may
have
a
stand
ready
to
answer.
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
chairman
Doggett,
this
great
bill
I
have
a
bill
that
touches
kind
of
some
of
this
as
well
and
I
like
the
transparency
here,
it
is
desperately
desperately
needed
and
just
want
to
voice
my
support
and
your
my
thanks
for
the
Bill.
Thank
you,
representative.
E
F
A
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
to
the
sponsors,
I
understand
the
bill.
That's
just
expands
the
information
in
a
person's
criminal
history,
making
it
available
more
readily
to
the
courts
and
to
the
judges
so
that
they'll
have
when
they
come
to
trial
that
have
the
entire
list
of
that
person's
criminal.
History
is
equity.
M
N
Thank
you
for
coming
back,
Mr,
chairman
Mr
chairman,
as
a
release
to
the
bill.
N
This
is
data
entry,
a
lot
of
data
entry,
so
are
we
going
to
have
people
in
place
that
can
in
a
timely
manner,
enter
this
data
as
well,
which
needs
to
be
done
if
it's
going
to
be
effective
for
the
judges
to
utilize
it
appropriately,
it's
got
to
be
timely,
entered
and
I.
Don't
know
at
this
point
the
central
point
where
it
would
be
entered
or
I.
Guess
it's
going
to
be
different
to
every
County,
but
are
we
have
we
looked
at
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
people
to
adequately
enter
this
data.
A
Go
ahead!
Oh
yes,
sir.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I.
You
know.
A
lot
of
this
can
be
done
through
the
booking
process
within
the
jails
when
they
get
get
ready
to
maybe
release
someone
they
can
put
that
information
through
I
know.
A
lot
of
departments
already
checked
these
individuals
through
ncic.
For
that,
so
you
know
it
can
be
done
that
way,
so
there
will
be
people
in
place
that
hopefully
will
be
able
to
accomplish
this
fee.
Thank
you,
sir.
E
A
A
We
can,
if
you
wish
to
attach
the
amendment,
then
we
can
explain
it.
It
rewrites
all.
E
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
criminal
injuries
compensation
fund,
something
that
we
have
been
working
on
here
for
quite
some
time,
and
what
this
amendment
does
is
deletes
the
requirement
that
a
victim
of
a
crime
or
a
member
of
the
victim's
family
report
the
crime
to
the
proper
authorities
within
the
48-hour
of
the
crimes
occurrence.
In
order
for
a
claim
for
compensation
to
be
eligible
for
award.
E
J
E
L
E
A
You
all
right,
thank
you.
You
are
back
on
861
unamended.
E
Yes
and
I
will
explain
why
why
I
did
that
in
a
second
with
someone
who's
here
to
speak
on
this
bill?
This
bill
deals
with
Kratom
and
most
of
the
time,
I
just
flap
my
gums
when
I'm
introducing
a
bill
but
I'm
going
to
read
this.
If
you
don't
mind,
this
bill
prohibits
a
Kratom
processor
from
preparing
manufacturing,
Distributing
or
selling,
and
the
Kratom
retail
from
selling
or
exposing
for
sale
a
Kratom
product
that
is
one
adulterated
with
a
dangerous
non-creatum
substance
is
contaminated
with
the
dangerous
non-cratum
substance
does
not
list.
E
This
bill
was
brought
to
me
by
the
Kratom
folks,
who
wanted
to
tighten
it
up
and
fix
some
of
the
problems
that
they've
they've
had
with
it,
and
and
so
that's
why
the
bill
in
Mr
chairman,
if
you
could
indulge
and
go
out
of
session
or
somebody
to
speak
on
this
all.
A
You
can
either
go
to
the
podium
or
you
can
sit
in
a
chair.
Whichever
is
your
your
preference.
A
If
you
will
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
for
your
comments.
P
There
we
go
Mac
there
you
go.
Thank
you,
I'm,
the
senior
fellow
in
public
policy
with
the
American
Kratom
Association
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
This
particular
piece
of
legislation
is
informed
by
The
Experience
we've
had
in
the
creative
Marketplace.
Our
organization
represents
the
15
million
consumers
that
consume
Kratom
regularly
and
safely
in
the
United
States.
We
do
not
represent
vendors.
We
want
vendors
to
be
controlled
and
regulated
in
this
Marketplace.
P
To
assure
that,
the
products
that
are
offered
for
sale
in
the
state
are
safe
and
can
be
safely
consumed.
There
are
Bad
actors
who
are
adulterating.
Creating
products
on
a
regular
basis
been
documented
that
people
are
Bad,
actors
are
indulging
in
fentanyl,
fentanyl
analogues
with
morphine
cocaine,
buprenorphine
and
other
substances,
all
of
which
have
an
effect
that
the
natural
Kratom
product
does
not
have.
We've
appreciated
the
efforts
by
leader,
lampreth
and
others
in
this
state
who
are
working
to
make
sure
that
this
product
is
properly
regulated.
P
It
is
not
subject
under
the
Controlled
Substances
Act
Two
the
criteria
required
for
scheduling,
but
it
does
need
to
be
regulated
so
that
people
are
protected.
The
specific
legislation
that
you
have
for
you
can
be
strengthened
with
appropriate
definitions
around
extracts
and
I
know.
That's
a
problem
that
some
people
have
extracts
are
common
within
the
plant
material.
P
You
extract
it
in
order
to
take
out
fungi,
microbials
and
other
dangerous
substances
that
are
present
in
it,
but
it
can't
be
an
extract
that
it
enhances
the
the
power
of
the
alkaloids
themselves
and
that's
why
we
advocate
for
the
USP
467
and
we
think
the
bill
could
be
further
amended
amended
to
make
sure
you're
using
food
grade.
Fda
approved
solvents
for
that
extraction
method.
That
means
it's
a
safe
product
when
it's
finely
produced
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions.
Mr
chairman.
N
Necessarily
a
question,
sir
I'm
a
smack
I
want
to
just
thank
you
for
actually
getting
ahead
of
the
curve
with
the
creative
Association
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
So
we
can
actually
improve
this
product
that
so
many
people
are
utilizing
in
this
country
and
you
and
your
Association
are
to
be
commended
for
it
and
helping
hoping
to
prevent
any
no
fatalities
and
tragedies
within
this
this
ramp.
So
thank
you,
sir.
E
Hosey,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you,
sir,
for
being
here.
I
just
wanted
you
to
to
maybe
address
three
or
four
things.
I
got
a
letter
from
a
a
father
who
lost
a
son.
He
said
to
create
him.
Tragically,
he
was
22
years
old.
E
He
says
that
Kratom
is
a
toxic
plant
and
he
quoted
you
from
when
you
addressed
Georgia,
that
you
used
older
statistics
of
death
statistics
that
were
attributed
to
Kratom.
If
you
would
address
that,
and
then
is
it
possible
to
have
accident
poisoning
from
Kratom
that
doesn't
have
anything
else
in
it,
just
just
kratom
and
then
one
more
thing
we
pulled
this
amendment
off.
I
didn't
run
that
Amendment
because
it
had
the
word
derivative
in
it.
P
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
and
chairman
Hulsey.
Every
death,
of
course,
is
tragic,
and
it's
interesting
in
the
Kratom
space
that
many
people
are
finding
it
to
be
very
useful
in
weaning
off
of
opioids.
It
is
a
segment
of
that
population
documented
by
studies
conducted
by
Johns,
Hopkins
University.
It
is
why
the
National
Institutes
on
drug
abuse
wholeheartedly
endorses
Kratom
as
a
harm
reduction
tool.
Unfortunately,
people
in
that
Journey
as
they
try
to
wean
off
of
very
dangerous
opioids,
can
succumb
to
overdoses
that
are
related
to
the
underlying
opioid
and
not
to
Kratom
itself.
P
Kratom
is
a
harm
reduction
tool.
Kratom
does
not
have
the
same
addiction
liability
but,
more
importantly,
does
not
have
the
overdose
effects
that
that
opioids
do
the
Kratom
alkaloids
do
not
go
to
the
receptor
in
the
brain
that
that
has
respiratory
suppression
and
that's
critical
when
you
evaluate
the
safety
profile
of
Kratom.
It
is
why
the
FDA
has
been
unsuccessful
in
scheduling
Kratom.
If
the
circumstances
surrounding
the
death
and
other
reported
deaths
were
true,
then
it
would
be
scheduled
on
a
federal
basis.
P
I
did
present
information
because
we
believe
science
should
dictate
these
public
policy
decisions
before
the
Georgia
legislature.
One
of
nine
states
that
has
enacted
the
Kratom
consumer
protection
act
thus
far
from
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control,
that
evaluated
reports
from
medical
examiners
and
coroners
from
around
the
country
documenting
a
91
deaths
that
were
associated
with
creative
meaning,
creating
was
detected
in
the
bloodstream
and
the
talks
reports
that
were
provided.
That
was
the
most
recent
data
from
the
center
Centers
for
Disease
Control.
P
They
found
that
the
fentanyl
analogs
accounted
for
60
percent
of
those
deaths
detected
fentanyl,
also
cocaine,
heroin,
buprenorphine
other
substances
which
could
be
either
adulterants
or
used
in
the
same
time
as
creating
people
trying
to
wean
off
of
those
things.
There
has
since
been
substantial
scientific
evidence
documenting
that
Kratom
does
not
on
its
own
cause.
An
overdose
death
doesn't
go
to
your
respiratory
system.
It
is
the
other
substances
when
they're,
either
adulterated
or
being
used
at
the
same
time
by
these
people
that
are
struggling
with
these
addictions.
P
So
from
that
standpoint,
that's
why
this
legislation
is
critically
important,
get
rid
of
the
adulterated
Kratom
products
that
are
rampant
on
the
marketplace
today.
Regulate
them
appropriately,
restrict,
what's
allowed
to
be
in
it,
informed
consumers
with
good
labeling.
So
with
respect
to
the
question
regarding
the
the
the
actual
derivatives
or
I
think
we're
talking
about
extracts
extracts
are
common
when
they're
appropriately
done
to
remove
things
like
mold
yeast,
fungi,
E
coli
salmonella,
those
kinds
of
things:
they
are
a
valuable
tool
to
do
two
things
clean
the
product
and
standardize
it.
P
So
you
know
exactly
what
the
alkaloid
content
of
the
of
the
product
that
is
being
presented
for
sale
in
this
state
and
that
would
be
on
the
labeling.
We
think
the
labeling
could
be
strengthened,
Mr
chairman
with
some
additional
language
that
would
accommodate
more
clear
warnings
to
Consumers.
We
advocate
for
those
warnings
and
we
support
them
completely
along
the
way
and
I
think
I
missed
one
other
question:
I
apologize,
you
had
three,
but
if
you
did
I
forgot
it.
Okay.
A
A
E
Q
Thank
you
Mr.
Thank
you
Mr,
chairman
and
committee
Mr
chairman.
This
is
the
build
I
thought
we
had
communicated
effectively
with
you
that
we
still
working
on
the
appropriate
Amendment
and
so
in
the
Senate
they've
rolled
it
to
next
year
to
continue
to
try
to
work
on
the
amendment.
This
is
the
TBI
bill
yeah,
so
we're
gonna
roll
that
bill
until
you.
A
Q
You're
recognized,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
committee,
Mr,
chairman
committee.
What
this
bill
would
do
is
remove
two
key
barriers
that
is
affecting
people's
ability
to
get
their
rights
restored
to
vote,
and
it's
creating
this
past
past
way
for
suffrage.
Individual
who's
been
permanently
ineligible.
I
want
to
first
thank
the
Tennessee
voices
of
victim
support
and
the
tendency
free
the
vote,
Coalition
and
leader
Lambert
for
working
with
us
on
this
amended
language.
I'd
like
to
put
the
amended
language
on
it.
Mr
chairman,
if
that's
okay
well,.
A
Q
Q
To
proceed
with
oh
yeah,
it
was
several
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
amendment
number
63,.
Q
Amendment
okay,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
this.
What
this
amendment
is
doing
is
just
setting
up
this
three-year
period
so
that
this
wouldn't
be
effective.
Until
after
three
years
a
person
has
been
ineligible
to
vote,
so
they'd
have
to
get
through.
That
they'd
have
to
you
know,
continue
to
do
restoration
of
any
penalties
and
stuff
like
that.
Q
So
this
is
saying
that
if
we
okay-
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
do-
is
get
this
on
and
then
continue
to
work
with
them
to
get
it
in
past,
because
there's
still
a
few
things
we
got
to
work
out,
but
I
did
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
this
amendment
on.
So
when
we
revisit
it,
we're
in
the
right
posture.
A
J
Lambert
Mr,
chairman
I,
know
the
leader
and
I
have
had
conversations
on
this
bill
and
there's
about
four
different
bills.
That
kind
of
deal
with
this
subject-
and
this
is
a
very
important
subject-
I-
wanted
to
get
your
guidance
leader
on
how
you'd
like
to
proceed.
I
know
that
several
of
these
bills
are
not
really
in
the
posture
yet
to
go
forward.
J
Do
you
want
a
true
summer
study
where
we
you
and
I
both
go
with
the
chairman
to
the
speaker
and
ask
for
us
all
to
come
together
for
a
couple
days
during
the
summer
and
really
look
at
these
issues?
Do
you
want
to
take
it
off
notice
and
just
keep
working
on
it?
You
want
to
go
to
next
year
what
what's
your
goal,
because
I
know
there's
four
different
bills
and
you're
you're
your
bill.
Quite
frankly,
is
the
vehicle
to
really
get
this
done.
In
my
opinion,
yeah.
Q
And
I
think
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
and
I
appreciate
that
and
and
I
really
do
appreciate.
You
know
the
work
you've
put
into
it
to
get
into
this
Place.
Also,
we
have
another
person
who
couldn't
be
here.
I
really
wanted
you
all
to
hear
from
her,
but
we
could
do
that
at
a
later
today,
she's
she
works
with
victims
and
she's
away
now,
with
working
with
some
of
the
people
with
the
situation
that
happened
at
covenant.
Q
So
I
would
like
for
us
to
thank
you
for
adopting
an
amendment
I'd
like
to
park.
It
here,
take
it
off
notice
and
then
once
we
work
through
the
rest
of
it,
I
agree
with
you.
Maybe
we
can
consolidate
a
few
bills
I'd
like
for
us
to
continue
to
work
on
it,
because
I
think
it
is
a
very
important
issue.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
later
thank.
J
Thanks
Mr
chairman,
there
are
multiple
amendments
and
if
we
could
get
each
of
these
on,
they
each
add
new
sections,
I
looking
at
research
and
legal
I,
don't
think
it
matters
at
which
order
we
take
them
in.
So
if
we
could
take
up
amendment
number
four,
which
is
item,
it's
coded
6910
first.
E
A
J
You
recognized,
on
the
amendment
sure
there's
an
artifact
left
over
in
the
DUI
Law
that
allows
in
one
county
in
the
state,
for
instead
of
someone
to
do
48,
Hours
of
jail
time
for
them
to
do
200
hours
of
community
service
I.
Don't
think
it's
fair
that
one
County
would
have
a
lesser
penalty
than
every
other
county
in
the
state.
I!
Don't
know
why
that's
been
in
the
statute
for
years,
but
it
is-
and
this
amendment
would
take
that
out
and
make
it
where
it's
and
even
penalty
throughout
the
state.
A
J
If
someone
had
a
ladder
that
caused
a
crash,
but
it
did
get
several
of
us
to
thinking
about
and
looking
at
the
laws
on
what
happens
if
other
items
are
falling
off
of
a
truck
and
literally
falling
into
the
roadway,
there's
apparently
no
penalty
in
the
law
right
now
for
large
rocks
or
equipment,
or
you
know
if
something's
not
secured
if
it
flies
out
and
is
hitting
the
roadway
there's,
not
even
something
where
an
officer
can
stop
somebody.
This
just
creates
a
sea
misdemeanor
for
that.
J
So
it's
it's
just
like
a
speeding
ticket
and
it
actually
it
has
to
actually
be
coming
out
of
the
vehicle.
There
were
some
rules
on
the
books
already
for
commercial
vehicles,
but
this
is
any
vehicle
in
which
again
there's
items
that
are
coming
out
and
hitting
the
roadway
we've
all
kind
of
had
this
happen
to
it.
At
some
point,
you've,
you
know
got
a
trailer
in
front
of
you
that
at
one
point
had
a
dump
truck
on
it
and
there's
rocks
just
popping
off
down
the
roadway,
it's
dangerous
and
so
but
again
see
misdemeanor.
F
A
A
K
Thank
you
chairman
to
the
sponsor.
It
lowers
the
penalty
for
the
entire
offense.
J
And
no
sir,
it
is
not
I
know
your
description
on.
There
says
that,
but
we
worked
through
an
amendment
that
makes
it
a
C
misdemeanor.
There
was
a
previous
amendment
that
would
have
left
it
at
a
B
misdemeanor,
and
that
was
a
little
more
aggressive
than
what
we
were
looking
for
here.
B
misdemeanor
is
like
reckless
driving
it
can
carry
up
to
six
months
in
jail,
we're
talking
about
rocks
and
stuff
falling
off
of
trucks.
We
felt
like
a
sea
misdemeanor
would
be
more
appropriate,
which
is
a
again
like
a
speeding
ticket
or
something.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm,
sorry,
this
is
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding.
This
correctly,
we
are
creating
a
Class
C
misdemeanor
for
fit
for
basically
for
someone
failing
to
secure
something
in
their
vehicle.
Is
that
correct.
D
J
Sir,
that
is
exactly
right
and
it
says
literally
hard
debris,
including
gravel
rocks.
Dried
mud
falls
from
the
better
trailer
or
from
equipment
transporting
the
better
trailer.
So
again,
it
has
to
be
falling
from
that
in
order
to
be
now
again,
we've
had
two
different
amendments
on
this,
and
the
intent
is
to
keep
the
law
exactly
as
it
is
for
commercial
vehicles
with
that
higher
penalty.
But
a
C
misdemeanor
is
created
for
this
additional
issue.
A
J
Mr,
chairman
and
I
know,
this
is
somewhat
of
an
Omnibus
cleanup
cleanup
bill
at
this
juncture,
but
it
was
filed
to
take
care
of
kind
of
any
lingering
issues
that
we
might
have
out
there
in
the
law
that
that
might
need
to
be
handled.
One
of
the
things
we
did
a
few
years
ago
was
pass
some
truth
and
sentencing
legislation.
J
Amendment
code
6277,
would
make
sure
if
someone
commits
vehicular
homicide
and
leaves
the
scene
of
the
accident,
that
would
be
100
sentence
if
they're
convicted
and
if
the
judge
gives
them
the
two
serve
sentence.
That's
what
amendment
code
6277
does
we'll.
A
J
K
Thank
you,
chairman
to
the
sponsor
what
the
individual
have
to
know
that
they
have
committed
the
crime.
A
You
any
other
questions
sing
No,
we're
now
voting
to
adopt
Amendment
code,
62772,
House,
Bill
1444,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
as
opposed
eyes.
Prevail
you
adopt
we're
on
health
spill.
14
44
is
amended.
Mr
chairman,
that's
all
I
have
oh.
Thank
you.
Questions
been
called
any
objections.
You
know
we're
voting
in
House
Bill
1444
is
amended
to
full
criminal
law.
Those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
as
opposed
he's
prevailed.
Payments
chairman
members
item
number
18,
House,
Bill
26
by
chairman
Faison,
not
here
roll
to
the
hill.
A
R
You're
recognized,
thank
you,
Mr,
chair
committee.
Thank
you
for
having
mercy
on
me.
I
couldn't
get
in
the
elevator,
so
I
ran
the
sips.
This
this
bill
does
have
an
amendment
that
writes
the
bill.
R
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
committee,
very
good
to
be
with
you
all
today.
Thank
you
for
the
excellent
work.
You're
doing
this
bill
is
a
an
attempt
to
help
people
who
have
come
out
of
prison
for
an
extended
period
of
time
been
able
to
petition
the
clerks
for
them
to
have
a
180
day
reprieve
on
immediately
having
to
start
paying
Their
fines
and
fees
that
have
collected
up
before
from
their
crimes
and
what
they've
done.
It's
just
gives
them
basically
six
months
to
get
established
to
find
a
job
before
they
start
paying
their
bills.
R
R
K
A
A
S
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
this.
This
bill
does
does
one
thing:
it
takes
our
citizens
that
that's
been
properly
arrested
and
having
served
their
term
once
they
get
out
of
prison,
it
gives
them
a
pathway
to
restore
their
rights
to
vote.
S
Tennessee
is
now
the
only
state
in
the
country
that
requires
those
convicted
of
felonies
to
be
totally
up
to
date
on
child
support.
Before
they
can
begin
to
vote.
You
know,
child
child
support
and
supporting
our
children.
Father
of
three
stepfather
of
the
three
is
an
awesome
responsibility
and
one
that
we
should
all
take
seriously.
But
your
your
right
to
vote
is
just
that.
S
It's
a
right,
and
just
this
gives
them
a
pathway
that
says
if
they
enter
into
a
payment
plan,
so
they're
they're
paying
toward
their
rearage,
which
has
been
accumulating
while
they
were
in
prison,
so
pays
for
that
arrearage
and
allows
them
the
the
the
right
to
vote
as
long
as
they're
up
to
date.
So
that's
what
this
bill
does
in
a
nutshell,.
J
Later
Lambert,
thank
you
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
you're
in
here
earlier
when
leader
camper
was,
she
has
a
bill
that
is
attempting
to
do
a
lot
of
what
it
appears
your
bill
is
working
on
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
on
that
between
now
and
next
year.
J
I
don't
feel
comfortable
going
forward
on
your
bill,
just
as
written
but
I
feel
like
the
goal
of
where
you're
headed
is
something
we
should
all
join
in.
To
try
to
get
to
it.
Just
to
the
sponsor
I
mean.
Would
you
prefer
that
we
do
some
sort
of
a
summer
study?
Would
you
like
to
take
it
off
notice
and
just
continue
to
build
those
conversations,
or
do
you
want
to
push
forward
today
and
I?
Don't
know
where
everybody
else
is
I'm,
just
kind
of
sharing
my
perspective
on
it.
S
Thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
I
I
would
love
to
push
forward,
but
I
definitely
understand
the
the
the
the
logic
behind
that
so
I'd
like
to
roll
this
first
calendar
next
year.
T
You
chairman
and
so
House
Bill
0546.
We
actually
just
did
this
bill.
I
brought
this
bill
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
they
we
rolled
it,
and
so
another
sponsor
has
already
ran
in
so
I'm
going
to
take
this
one
off
of
notice.
T
J
Right
later,
Lambert
I
just
want
to
say
I,
don't
know
just
what
it's
worth
I
know
you
work
diligent
on
this
issue
and
I
know
chairman
Faison
had
the
same
bill
and
y'all
were
both
working
on
it,
but
just
props
for
working
on
an
important
issue
and
I
know
a
lot
of
your
groundwork
that
you
laid
went
into
the
the
actual
bill
that
chairman
Faison
presented.
J
So
congratulations
on
work
well
done
and
I
know
you
don't
care
who
gets
the
credit
it's
his
name
at
the
top
of
the
bill,
but
I
I
do
encourage
you
if
you
haven't
signed
on
to
that
one.
Please
do
so,
but
it
was
a
lot
of
your
groundwork
that
went
into
getting
to
that
solution.
So
just
wanted
to
give
credit
where
credit
is
due.
Thank
you.
T
All
right,
thank
you,
chairman
and
thank
you
committee.
This
one
does
have
an
amendment
on
there.
It's
amendment
number
6232
motion.
T
All
right,
the
amendment
and
the
bill
passed
both
in
the
Senate
floor
already,
but
the
language
of
this
bill
is
what
is
currently
in
statute,
except
for
what
you
see
in
bulletin
two
under
President
law,
which
I
think
we
all
endorse.
There
are
limitations
on
sex
offenders
as
far
as
how
far
they
can
be
in
proximity
to
schools
and
similar
institutions.
T
People
are
on
site.
This
is
just
a
clarification.
Bill.
The
current
language
of
this
bill
already
says
that
any
other
specific
or
legitimate
reason,
but
obviously
that
is
left
up
for
interpretation.
So
this
just
adds
the
language
that,
including
staying
in
an
overnight
shelter
that
is
located
in
a
fixed,
permanent
building
and
administered
by
municipality,
to
provide
shelter
from
adverse
weather.
So
it
would
only
be
for
adverse
weather
situations
where
a
person
can
stay
at
these
emergency
homeless,
shelters
provided
by
the
city.
E
T
The
way
this
is
done,
it
would
only
be
for
overnight,
shelters
so
obviously
wouldn't
be
during
the
times
that
children
are
in
the
school
nearby
and
it'd
only
be
for
adverse.
Whether
so,
if
the
temperature
drops
between
below
a
certain
temperature
that
is
regulated
by
the
city,
then
that
that
facility
is
open,
so
they
wouldn't
never
come
in
contact
with
the
youth
in
any
kind
of
way.
T
The
schools
aren't
going
to
be
open
in
that
these
situations,
it's
just
that
it's
an
overnight
shelter
so,
typically,
most
overnight,
shelters
are
usually
somewhere
between
7
00
PM
to
7
A.M
and
those
are
outside
of
normal
school
hours
anyway.
So
we
we
have
a
emergency
homeless,
shelter,
I'll
use
Memphis,
for
example,
that
is
within
within
proximity
of
a
school
area.
Currently,
the
language
allows
them
to
go
ahead
and
be
there,
because
it
says
any
other
specific
or
legitimate
reason.
A
legitimate
reason
would
be
for
adverse
weather.
This
just
clarifies
that
in
the
language.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
just
so
so
I
understand,
because
in
a
lot
of
times
in
emergent
situations,
you
do
have
your
churches.
You
do
have
your
schools
that
are
open
for
emergency
purposes
and
a
lot
of
times.
Families
come
in
there
with
their
children.
So
how
would
those
Emergency
Shelters
know
if
someone
was
a
sexual
offender
or
not.
T
Great
question
that
is
not
for
this
language
is
not
for
our
churches
and
non-profits
and
other
visas
only
for
municipal
Rand
administered
facilities,
and
so
they,
obviously
our
cities
would
know,
since
it's
only
for
the
city,
Rand
ones,
not
for
our
local
volunteer,
shelters.
T
A
Yeah
I
do
have
a
question.
Would
there
be
children
present
at
these?
What
these
shelters
for
inclement
weather,
so
more
adverse.
T
Weather
conditions
and
and
these
the
shelter
that
we're
specifically
talking
here,
is
the
municipal
of
the
municipal,
Rand,
shelters
and
obviously,
like
representative
Davis
just
mentioned
it's
going,
there
there's
multiple
different
versions
and
then
the
ones
that
we
have
we
have
in
all
adult
ones,
and
then
we
have
one
that
is
usually
for
families.
So
these
are.
T
These
are
two
separate
ones,
and
if
it's
specific
to
let
me
read
the
language
specific
for
you
any
overnight,
any
overnight
shelter
that
is
located
in
a
fixed,
permanent
building
and
administered
by
a
municipality
to
provide
shelter
from
adverse
weather
or
other
emergency
other
than
that.
It
doesn't
mention
that
okay.
A
There's
some
sexual
offenders
or
members
of
their
own
sexual
folks
that
are
on
the
sex
offender
registry
that
are
not
allowed
to
be
around
children,
especially
if
their
victim
was
under
the
a
certain
age,
would,
in
the
event
that
they
found
themselves
in
this
shelter
where
they
were
children
of
this
age.
In
an
overnight
situation.
T
That
that
is
correct.
The
current
language
already
does.
This
is
just
for
clarification.
The
current
language
says
any
other
specific
or
legitimate
reason,
and
so
a
legitimate
reason
would
be
because
of
adverse
weather,
and
so
at
this
current
time
they
are
able
to
do
it.
It's
just
we're
just
trying
to
clean
it
up
to
add
that
specific
language
to
make
sure
that
it's
only
going
to
be
allowed
for
municipal
Rand
facilities
currently
right
now,
anyone
could
do
it
could
be
a
volunteer.
Shelter
can
can
do
it
because
they
still
meet
within
this
law.
T
A
T
I
think
thank
you,
chair
and
so
obviously,
with
the
current
language.
We
all
we
all
know
that
we
want
to
protect
our
children
in
the
best
we
possibly
can.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
option
for
our
homeless
population
too,
and
currently
in
the
language
we
already
have
allowed.
We've
already
allowed
in
our
language
right
now
for
this
to
happen,
so
by
not
voting
for
the
amendment,
we're
still
allowing
it
to
happen.
T
A
U
Thank
you
chairman
chairman.
Many
may
recall.
The
situation
happened
in
my
County
of
a
strong
escalation
of
young
people
that
were
arrested,
incarcerated
some
called
it
an
aggressive
lockup
of
children.
It
cost
my
County
taxpayer,
six
million
dollars
six
million
dollars.
It
cost
us
that
six
million
dollars
we
can't
use
for
roads,
the
landfill,
Mental
Health
or
paying
substitute
teachers
I've
met
with
several
folks
on
this
piece
of
legislation.
U
It's
been
a
difficult
piece
of
legislation
to
work
with
I
want
to
thank
the
D.A
Jennings
Jones
Mike
A.G,
Jimmy,
music,
Patrick
Powell,
Rachel
Russell,
with
TBI
Chelsea
Curtis
as
well,
and
director
Kennedy,
Tennessee
Commission
on
Children
and
Youth,
and
leader
Lambert
and
chairman
Doggett,
chairman
Halsey,
as
well
I
notice
on
the
Senate
side,
it's
been
rolled
to
next
calendar
of
next
year,
chairman
and
leader
Lambeth.
What
I?
U
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
really
we've
got
a
serious
problem
when
it
comes
to
juvenile
behavior
and
like
I,
say
this
cost
us
six
million
dollars
and
my
County
dropped
the
ball.
What
we're
after
is
some
more
checks
and
balances
in
the
system,
so
it
doesn't
happen
again
and
we
don't
have
young
people
that
have
been
detained
arrested
which
could
affect
some
childhood
trauma.
Let's
face
it
so
I'd
like
to
get
y'all's
feedback
chairman
and
leader
lambreth,
on
what
your
suggestions
are
moving
forward
from
this
piece
of
legislation.
A
J
You
leader,
Lambert
famous
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
working
on
this
issue.
I
know
you're
very
passionate
about
it.
I
know.
You've
worked
for
a
couple
of
months
to
really
try
to
get
the
mechanisms
of
this
bill
right.
You
asked
for
recommendation.
I
would
recommend
either
take
it
off
notice
or
roll
it
to
the
first
calendar
of
next
year
and
really
work
on
it
over
the
summer
and
meet
with
as
many
interested
groups
and
parties
to
just
get
it
right.
J
You
know
I
know
you've
tried
for
a
couple
of
months,
but
I
really
feel
like
in
a
two-year
session
between
this
year
and
next
year
that
you
might
be
able
to
get
there.
So
that
would
just
be
my
humble
recommendation.
U
A
Okay,
any
questions
or
comments
for
the
sponsor,
seeing
them
without
objection:
Will
Roll
to
House
Bill
720
to
special
calendar.
Okay
thanks,
sir.
A
V
You
chairman,
Mr
members
of
the
committee
I,
just
had
a
late
breaking
development,
wanted
to
update
you
on
I'm,
going
to
be
taking
this
bill
off
notice
just
spoke
with
chairman
Faison
in
the
hall,
and
he
wants
to
work
with
me
as
well
as
the
members
of
the
Committees
and
others
on
this
bill.
So
at
this
time
we
want
to
just
take
this
off
notice,
so
we
can
let
those
discussions
happen
currently.
K
You
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
take
it
off
for
notice
it.
It's
not
ready
for
prime.
K
40
I've
got
to
do
some
more
work
on
it.
It.
The
motivation
behind
that
is
because
one
of
the
women
that's
in
was
involved
in
a
rape.
Prosecution
in
Shelby
County
learned
about
the
matching
of
her
DNA
evidence
of
the
rapists
from
a
call
from
the
media,
and
it
added
to
the
trauma
that
she
had
been
suffering
for
years
with
an
unknown
rapist
on
the
loose.
But
that's
a
bill
that
I
need
to
work
on
more
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
having
her
actually
before
the
committee
in
2024.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
House,
Bill
688
is
not
ready,
but
it's
one
that
I
do
plan
to
pursue
in
2024
and
it's
commonly
referred
to
as
the
community
terrorism
bill,
and
it's
designed
to
put
teeth
into
the
law
to
prevent
these
criminal
gangs
who
are
taking
over
neighborhoods
and
communities
and
setting
up
their
place
of
business.
I've
got
some
more
work
to
do
on
it.
Oh,
and
it
also
addresses
the
the
issue,
which
I
think
is
ridiculous.
K
A
A
A
Item
number
two
House
Bill
1385
by
representative
Reagan,
return
to
the
clerk's
desk.
A
U
Let's,
let
me
I'll
mow
that
to
to
first
calendar
next
session,
okay
next
year,
if
that's
fine,
chairman
okay,.
J
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
yield
chairman
Hulsey
in
a
moment,
but
I
one
feel
like
you
have
done
an
extraordinarily
good
job
this
year,
one
of
the
finest
I've
seen
on
a
budget
on
a
subcommittee
chairman
for
criminal
justice,
the
bills
that
have
come
out
of
here.
J
The
vast
majority
of
them,
have
had
little
debate
in
chairman
halsey's
full
committee,
because
the
work
of
this
committee
has
ensured
that
they
have
been
vetted
very
heavily
and
that
that's
easily
shown
by
the
fact
that
this
is
one
of
the
final
Subs
to
close
this
year,
because
you
had
an
enormous
amount
of
work
to
Wade
through
so
Mr
chairman
I
applaud
you
literally,
and
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
You
really
have
one
shot
to
get
it
right,
because
if
you
get
it
wrong,
it's
a
whole
year
that
that
will
go
by
before
you
have
an
opportunity
to
come
back
and
right
those
wrongs,
and
sometimes
in
other
aspects
of
our
lives
and
the
business
communities.
If
we
make
changes
in
the
law
that
have
effect
on
people,
there
may
be
some
adverse
effects
and
we
come
back
and
we
make
those
changes,
but
in
the
criminal
law
it
affects
people's
lives
deeply.
A
When
we
do
things
here,
and
so
it's
a
very
careful
vetting
process
of
every
bill
that
comes
through
I
know
that
a
lot
of
your
time
on
the
weekends
is
spent.
Reading
each
piece
of
legislation
looking
at
what
it
does
in
the
TCA
codes
to
know
then
have
an
understanding
of
exactly
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
when
we
move
forward
with
this
legislation.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
tireless
efforts
that
you
have
put
forth
this
year
in
the
committee.
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
I
just
wanted
to
Echo
what
the
leader
said,
as
as
the
chairman
of
a
full
committee.
I
cannot
express
how
important
a
subcommittee
is
and
the
work
of
a
subcommittee
chairman
and
I
really
respect
the
job.
You
do
you
make
it
really
enjoyable
serving
on
your
committee
and
I
do
enjoy
it
and
you're
very
deliberate,
and
once
you
do
what
you're
very
patient
and
I
think
you're
fair,
and
you
run
a
committee
very
well
and
I'm
I'm
glad
to
be
a
member
of
this
committee.
Thank.
E
K
You,
chairman
and
I,
want
to
reiterate
some
of
what's
been
already
said,
but
I
think
the
most
important
two
parts
of
that
is
fairness
and
it's
a
deliberative
body
that
you
lead
I
can
think
of
only
one
instance
where
we
didn't
have
full
debate
laughs,
but
we
were
able
to
make
up
for
it
and
in
full,
and
it's
it's
as
you
noted
earlier,
this
committee
is
about
Liberty,
it's
about
issues
of
property.