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House Criminal Justice Committee- May 4, 2021
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You,
madam
clerk
members,
I
didn't
think
we
would
have
the
pleasure
of
being
back
together
again,
but
here
we
are.
We
have
one
bill
on
our
calendar
today
and
that
is
house
bill
490
by
chairman,
terry
chairman,
terry,
you
are
recognized,
sir
sir.
You
have
a
motion
a
second
properly
recognized
before
the
committee.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
and
committee,
and
what
this
bill
does
essentially
does
five
things.
The
first
thing
it
does.
It
sets
up
a
medical
cannabis
commission
in
order
to
help
develop
a
non-biased
medical
cannabis
program,
for
when
the
federal
government
removes
cannabis
from
schedule
one.
Secondly,
it
sets
up
a
process
for
decriminalizing
possession
of
0.9
percent
thc
cannabis
oil
for
a
limited,
limited
number
of
patients
with
certain
diseases.
Currently,
if
you
have
epilepsy
or
seizures,
you
can
possess
the
0.9
oil.
C
This
just
adds
eight
more
conditions
to
that
this
bill
has
or
this
this
bill.
Has
the
commission
prioritize
their
recommendation,
their
recommendations
for
the
creation
of
a
patient
registration
system
in
order
to
facilitate
reciprocity
and
access
for
patients,
including
those
nine
groups
of
patients
to
obtain
the
oil?
It
prohibits
what
I
call
a
corporate
medical
cannabis
program
until
cannabis
is
removed
from
schedule
one.
C
So
if
that
program
has
cultivation,
distribution,
processing
or
shipping
of
cannabis,
it's
specifically
the
cannabis
program
leaves
out
the
part
about
patients
and
research
so
that
we
can
have
some
patient
protections
or
research
protections.
Should
we
wish
to
advance
those
issues
the
bill?
Obviously,
the
creation
of
the
commission
does
have
a
fee
associated
with
it.
The
bill
has
been
funded
in
the
budget.
Speaker
sexton
is
supportive
of
the
bill.
The
governor
lee
has
removed
his
philosophical
flag
from
the
bill.
C
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Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
had
to
think
where
I
live
for
a
second
there.
I
appreciate
that,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
so
much
chairman
terry.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
understand
where
we
are
the
posture
where
we
are
and
the
work
that
has
gone
into
that
with
all
the
individuals
that
you
mentioned.
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We've
worked
more
weekends
down
here
this
legislative
session
than
I've
ever
seen
before
and-
and
I
know
as
we
were,
having
the
the
people
talk
to
us
last
week
in
full
criminal
committee-
our
heart
breaks.
We
are
not
cold,
hearted
I'll,
restate,
which
I
said
in
committee.
We
are
not
cold-hearted.
We
understand
completely
that
many
many
many
families
have
done
everything
they
possibly
can
to
try
to
address
their
family,
their
loved
one's
illness,
and
they
want
to
try
this
as
an
opportunity,
and
I
understand
that
and
emotion
gets
involved
in
that.
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I
believe
that
in
my
concern
then-
and
my
concern
now-
is
that
medical
marijuana
for
the
great
uses
that
that
it
could
possibly
have
the
states
that
have
legalized
it
medically
more
often
than
not
turn
right
around
in
a
couple
of
years
and
legalize
it
recreationally,
and
there
was
a
concern.
That
was
not
a
concern.
There
were
comments
made
last
week
about
you
know,
never
saw
anyone.
Just
high
and
pot
hurt
anybody
else.
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That's
the
concern
that
you're
hearing
from
the
folks
on
this
committee.
That's
the
concerns
that
you're
hearing
from
folks
in
law
enforcement
that
we
don't
know
how
to
handle
that,
because
the
step
of
medical
marijuana
always
begets
not
always
more
likely
than
not
begats
recreational
marijuana.
That's
a
concern.
We've
got.
I
know
that
we've
worked
this
out,
we've
had
the
conversation
and-
and
we
are
where
we
are
on
this
on
this
piece
of
legislation
right
now.
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What
I
want
to
ask
you,
chairman
chairman
terry,
if
I
could
we
passed
this
legislation
in
2021,
give
me
your
crystal
ball.
What
are
we
going
to
do
with
legislation
in
2022,
addressing
my
concerns
of
everybody,
pushing
the
ball
down
the
down
the
field,
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
year
after
year
after
year,.
C
Thank
you
chairman
and
again,
this
does
not,
and
I
have
never
put
forth
in
fact,
the
bill
that
I
had
last
week
specifically
cuts
out
any
smoking
or
any
any
vaping,
or
anything
like
that
and
or
any
edibles.
That's
not
anything
that
I
have
ever
proceeded
to
to
do
again.
I
cannot
control
what
other
members
may
want
to
do,
but
this
commission,
that
is
in
here
what
I
my
crystal
ball,
is.
C
I
think
that
at
some
point
in
time-
maybe
sooner
rather
than
later,
that
the
feds
are
going
to
deschedule
cannabis,
they
the
congress.
Last
year,
they
passed
the
moore
act
which
dec
descheduled
it
and
decriminalized
it
and
essentially
threw
it
back
to
the
states
with
the
tax
on
it.
I
my
understanding
is
that
chuck
schumer
wants
to
do
something
in
the
senate,
and
I
expect
that
the
house
will
do
something
at
that
point
in
time.
C
What
this
commission
does
is.
It
allows
us
to
have
a
non-biased
because
a
lot
of
again
nobody,
I've
worked
on
this
with
multiple
different
legislators
and
and
trying
to
do
what's
right,
and
you
know
there
may
be
if
they
d
schedule
at
the
federal
level.
You
know
if
we
don't
pass
this
bill,
there
may
be
30
different
bills
that
come
out
and
people
want
to
do
whatever,
and
I
think
this
commission
does
give
us
a
non-biased
way
to
gather
our
thoughts
to
try
to
move
something
next
year
in
the
event
that
they
do.
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C
Thank
you.
It
says
the
act
takes
effect
upon
becoming
law,
that's
the
last
section
and
they
will
begin
doing
that
it
will
have
to
have.
You
will
have
to
have
the
lieutenant
governor,
the
speaker
and
the
governor,
appoint
three
members
each
to
the
commission,
so
I
have
to
find
in
here
the
exact
timeline
they
have
a.
There
is
a
timeline
for
their
first
first
meeting
and
I'd
have
to
look
through
here
to
find
exactly
when
that
is.
C
E
But
it's
where
we
are
and
it's
and
it's
the
best
we
can
do
right
now
and
and
like
you
say,
it
gives
us
a
leg
up
for
if
the
feds
do
deschedule
this
this
therapy,
and
so
that's
exciting
and
it's
exciting-
that
we
have
more
treatment
options
for
the
for
these
people
and-
and
I
and
I
thank
you
for
that
and
I'll
be
happy
to
support
your
bill.
And
thank
you
thank.
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C
Maybe
that's
a
schedule
too,
but
you
have
something
like
a
0.9
oil.
Maybe
what
we
call
behind
the
counter
or
something
like
that
to
where
you
have
a
letter
of
attestation
and
you
could
potentially
get
that
at
a
pharmacy
behind
the
counter.
So
it
would
just
depend
on
how
we
wanted
to
structure
that
at
that
point
in
time,.
B
You
know
this
is
a
crazy
time
of
the
year
of
session,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
an
amendment
made
on
the
floor
to
add
to
this
bill,
will
you
bring
it
back
to
this
committee?
Will
you
accept
it?
What
what
assurances
can
we
have
that
this
bill
will
be
voting
on
on
the
floor,
will
not
look
completely
different.
C
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Chairman,
thank
you
for
your
continued
work
on
this
particular
topic.
I
know
you'd
have
talked
at
length
and
I
will
say
this
is
the
most
palatable
version
of
a
bill
of
this
nature
that
I've
seen.
I,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea
to
have
a
commission
look
at
this.
I
have
thought
that
for
quite
some
time,
because
you
know
my
concerns-
I
want
a
doctor
to
be
in
the
driver's
seat.
I
want
you
as
a
medical
professional
to
be
able
to
guide
patients
through
this
journey,
even
the
conditions
that
you've
listed
here.
H
Yes,
it's
possible
that
it
could
help
people,
but
it's
also
possible
that
you
could
have
patients
that
will
self-medicate
using
the
0.9
thc
oil
instead
of
pursuing
traditional
remedies
that
actually
could
be
very
beneficial.
So
I
just
at
some
juncture-
and
hopefully
this
commission
can
help
us
do
this.
I
would
like
that
barrier
to
be
torn
down
between
doctors
and
patients
and
allow
the
medical
community
to
both
guide
their
patients
through
this
and
prescribe
whatever
it
is
that
their
patients
need
and
stick
with
them
through
it.
H
I
mean
that
that's
always
been
my
problem
with
most
of
these
bills
and
again
this
is
a
much
better
version
than
anything
else.
I
think
we've
ever
seen
and
that's
credited
to
your
hard
work,
sir,
but
when
you
just
legalize
substances
and
say
well,
self-medicate
and
guide
yourself
through
your
your
journey,
we're
causing
a
rift
in
the
medical
community,
and
so
I'm
asking
that
our
doctors
step
up
be
a
part
of
this
commission.
I'm
asking
that
all
of
us
step
up
and
finally
say
in
tennessee
we're
going
to
decide
how
we
do
this.
H
But
if
we're
going
to
do
medical
marijuana,
then
it
genuinely
has
to
be
medical
marijuana,
not
just
a
segway
and
a
back
door
under
recreational
marijuana.
I
know
that's
not
what
you
wanted.
I
know.
That's
not
what
you
want,
but
my
friend
from
greene
county
stated
it
better
than
anybody
else
could
have
I
mean
it
is
every
single
day
we
see
the
dangers
of
recreational
marijuana
out
there
and
how
it
absolutely
rips
families
apart
and
I
know
there
are
those
that
are
pushing
to
legalize
marijuana.
H
H
A
doctor
is
handling
frequency.
A
doctor
is
actually
doing
a
work
up
on
someone
the
same
way.
You
do
every
time
before
you
do
any
kind
of
anesthesia
to
figure
out
what
you
should
give
them,
and
that's
the
only
way
where
you
have
true
medical
marijuana
is
when
a
doctor's
in
the
driver's
seat
so
again.
This,
hopefully,
is
a
step
towards
that.
Thank
you.
H
C
Chairman
jerry,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
appreciate
you
having
discussions
with
me
and
talking
about
your
concerns,
and
that
was
the
attestation
letter
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
you
have
to
have
a
bona
fide
patient
practitioner
relationship
means
you
have
to
do
that.
Work
up.
The
attestation
letter
says
that
the
patients
you
have
to
tell
what
the
patient's
qualified
medical
disease
is
and
that
they
have
received
conventional
methods
of
treatment
and
those
have
insufficient
efficiently
addressed
their
condition.
And
then
it's
time
limited.
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
of
saying
that
I'm
not
for
don't
think
I
ever
would
be
for
legal
legalize
recreational
use
for
marijuana.
I
don't
think
that's
any
any
intention
on
your
part,
dr
terry.
I've
known
you
for
a
long
time
since
we've
been
here,
and
I
know
that
you
and
I
both
are
against
that
have
been,
and
in
my
position
I'm
still
against
the
legal
legalization
of
just
recreational
use
marijuana.
G
However,
I
do
believe
that
god
made
all
plans
and
he
made
them
good
said
that
they
were
good
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
the
benefit
from
them,
and
I
would
like
to
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
statement
concerning
our
concern
about
the
use
of
marijuana
and
what
it
does
to
our
families.
Yesterday.
I
think
it
was
yesterday
or
one
day
this
week
on
the
house
4
we
passed
20,
20,
different
resort
for
alcohol
use
and
the
police
departments,
and
everyone
know
that
there's
alcohol
deaths
on
our
highway
every
day.
G
We
know
that
it
tears
families
apart.
I
know
in
my
own
family
that
I've
seen
how
alcohol
killed
two
of
my
brothers,
not
marijuana
alcohol,
but
we
pass
alcohol
bills
as
if
there's
just
nothing
to
it
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
have
some
of
that
same
righteous
indignation
when
it
comes
to
alcohol
that
we
do
against
this
bill.
My
purpose,
my
sole
purpose,
is
that
we
could
use
it
to
help
someone
that
has
a
need.
I
believe
that's.
G
Your
sole
purpose
is
to
try
to
take
the
medical
benefit
that
we
could
get
from
this
plant.
That
would
help
someone
in
their
pain
or
whatever
else
we
need
to
study
it.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
benefits
that
it
could
have,
and
if
you
want
to
go
across
the
road
to
the
bus
station,
you
can
get
you
some
marijuana.
If
you
want
it
and
you
can
smoke
it,
it's
smoked
all
the
time
and
it's
not
going
to
stop
being
smoked.
G
G
So
I
guess
I'm
getting
myself
in
trouble
here
or
revealing
too
much,
but
I
I
just
believe
that
if
it's,
if
it's
something
that
can
help
someone
and
that
the
medical
industry
as
the
industry
that
you
work
in
dr
terry,
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
into
it
and
see
what
kind
of
benefits
that
we
could
get
from
it.
And
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this.
A
A
C
C
A
Beneficial
you
chairman,
terry
next,
on
my
list.
I
have
chairman
farmer
previous
questions,
been
called
any
objection
to
the
question.
Seeing
number
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill
490
to
gov
ops,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
those
opposed,
sir.
You
had
to
go
ops.
Thank
you,
chairman.