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House K-12 Subcommittee - March 23, 2021 - House Hearing Room 2
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Any
personal
orders
before
we
begin
all
right,
seeing
none.
We
have
a
full
docket
today,
so
we
will
try
to
go
through
these
as
as
smoothly
and
as
quickly
as
we
can.
We
will
go
through
a
couple
of
these
and
let
you
know
where
we're
at.
C
A
Item
number
10
982
is
rolled
rolled
a
week.
A
Item
number
of
11
six
House
Bill
631,
is
also
rolled
a
week.
A
What
number
number
19.
House
Bill
1305
is
rolled
a
week.
A
And
I
will
say
we
did
announce
that
we
would
have
the
vaccine
calendar
today
and
we
will
make
sure
for
those
who
we
have
some
people
here.
For
that
we
will
make
sure
that
we
get
to
those,
even
though
they
are
at
the
end
of
the
calendar.
We
will
make
sure
to
get
those
in
if
we
have
to
move
them
up.
We
will
all
right.
That's
going
to
bring
us
to
I'm
number
one
house
bill
1410
by
representative
Baum
do
I
have
another
motion
properly
motioned,
representative
Baum.
D
Amendment:
okay,
thank
you,
chairman
haston.
This
bill
enacts
the
safe
Stars
safe,
Stars
act,
which
is
an
act
that.
A
Would
before
you
get
started,
let
me
make
sure,
does
this?
Does
the
amendment
rewrite
the
bill?
Yes,
okay,
let's
you
wanna
go
ahead
and
let's
go
ahead
and
get
all
these
amendments
on
and
then
we'll
get
back
on
the
bill.
If
that's
okay,
it's
seeing
no
objections
we'll
be
voting
on
Amendment,
55
49,
all
those
in
favor
of
adopting
this
amendment,
please
say:
aye,
all
the
post
police
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it.
We
also
have
one
more
amendment
that
was
untimely
filed
chairman
sapicki.
A
What's
the
drafting
code
that
you
have
on
that
57-24
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
consider
motion
all
right.
We
will
be
voting
on
considering
this
all
those
in
favor,
please
indicate
by
saying
aye
aye
as
opposed
say.
No
all
right.
We
are
on
Amendment.
Go
ahead,
read
the
amendment
drafting
code,
that
is
there
57-24
57
24.
Would
you
please
care
to
explain
this
amendment,
which
I
believe
is
a
friendly
amendment.
E
I
believe
it's
a
friendly
Amendment
too,
from
the
shake
of
the
head.
I
assume
yes,
basically,
what
we
do
is
we're
adding
one
section
here
that
chairman
Baum
is
aware
of
where
I'm
going
to
read
it
to
you.
Mr
chairman,
each
Lea.
A
E
Good,
yes,
each
Lea
and
Public
Charter
School
shall
hold
an
informational
meeting
before
the
start
of
each
School
athletic
season
or-
and
here
we're
going
to
add
in
or
publish
a
video
on
the
leas
or
public
charter
schools
website
for
students,
parents,
coaches
and
school
officials
to
learn
about
the
symptoms
and
warning
signs
of
sudden
Cardiac
Arrest
semicolon.
That's
the
amendment
Mr
chairman.
A
Second,
thank
you.
Questions
be
called
seeing
no
objections
we'll
be
voting
to
adopt
Amendment
5724.
All
those
in
favor,
please
indicate
by
saying
aye
aye
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
all
right
without
objection,
we
will
roll
those
two
amendments
into
one,
and
so
we
were
back
on
the
bill
as
amended.
Thank
you
for
your
patience,
representative,
Baum
you're
recognized
on
your
bill.
Thank.
D
You
chairman
haston
this
bill
enacts
the
safe
Stars
act,
which
helps
ensure
the
safety
and
health
of
our
student
athletes
at
in
public
schools
in
grades
K
through
12..
It's
based
on
the
Tennessee
Department
of
Health's,
safe
Stars
program,
which
is
a
program
that
was
developed
by
physicians
and
athletic
trainers
at
Vanderbilt
University.
It's
a
nationally
recognized
programs
considered
to
be
very
comprehensive.
D
It
has
three
different
levels:
gold,
silver
and
bronze,
the
gold
being
the
the
most
complete
comprehensive
level.
This
bill
would
require
leas
to
meet
the
standards
at
the
bronze
level.
The
bronze
level
standards
would
be
required.
I
should
add,
though,
that
many
of
these
standards
are
already
required
in
Tennessee
code,
but
there
are
some
new
ones.
Even
the
new
ones
are
being
voluntarily
implemented
by
some
leas.
Let
me
give
you
a
sense
of
what
some
of
these
are.
D
The
the
standards
require
leas
and
their
coaches,
the
leas
to
provide
their
coaches
with
concussion
training,
sudden
Cardiac
Arrest
training,
training
on
CPR
aeds.
It
requires
them
their
coaches
to
undergo
background
checks.
Fingerprinting
requires
them
to
develop
allergic
reaction
plans,
emergency
action
plans
to
develop
severe
weather
policies
that
include
training
for
coaches,
on
heat,
illness
and
extreme
weather
like
lightning.
D
It
requires
Alias
to
develop
a
code
of
conduct
for
coaches
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
ACT,
is
a
a
meeting
that
now
with
your
Amendment
could
be
provided
in
in
another
medium
through
video,
where
parents
receive
information
on
Sudden,
Cardiac,
Arrest,
symptoms
and
warning
signs
and
receive
information
on
the
advantages
or
disadvantages
of
EKG
testing.
Parents
would
also
receive
information
on
Sudden,
Cardiac,
Arrest
heat,
illness
and
concussions.
Basically,
this
bill
combines
all
of
these
elements
in
one
place
in
the
code.
A
D
A
D
You,
chairman,
Houston,
there's
nothing
in
Tennessee's
BEP
funding
formula
that
directly
provides
State
funds
for
the
construction
of
new
schools,
and
yet
some
of
our
leas
are
growing
rapidly.
Some
are
adding
a
thousand
or
more
new
students
per
year
and
some
are
initiating
the
construction
of
at
least
one
new
school
building
a
year.
This
bill
would
provide
State
funding
to
leas
from
Tennessee's
general
fund
in
order
to
facilitate
the
construction
of
new
schools
or
other
capital
projects.
D
The
way
this
would
be
done
is
a
one-time
allocation
of
30
million
dollars
would
be
put
into
a
a
fund,
and
then
the
Department
of
Education
and
the
commissioner
of
Education
would
be
in
charge
of
developing
an
application
process
for
these
Grant
dollars.
The
criteria
for
how
they
would
be
awarded
and
would
administer
the
funds.
The
only
criteria
that
would
be
required
to
be
eligible
for
the
funds
would
be
that
the
Lea
would
have
had
to
have
grown
in
in
student,
headcount
ADM,
two
percent
over
a
five-year
period.
D
The
amount
that
could
be
awarded
would
be
capped
at
seven
million
dollars,
but
this
bill
would
would
allow
39
different
leas
across
the
state
to
be
eligible
for
at
least
a
portion
of
this
grant.
Funding.
A
D
E
D
Thank
you,
chairman,
39
leas
would
be
eligible
because
they've
grown
sufficiently
again
two
percent
over
a
five-year
period.
So,
yes,
39
leas,
would
be
eligible.
Chair,
Mr.
E
Robust
counties
in
their
growth,
how
do
I
answer
my
rural,
my
rural
counties,
that,
with
all
due
respect,
Murfreesboro
receives
three
million
dollars
for
them
to
help
build
an
80
million
dollar
a
90
million
dollar
High
School
versus
Tipton
County
that
receives
three
million
dollars
to
help
them
build
their
school
to
scale.
Their
need
is
different.
So
are
we
relying
on
the
Department
of
Education
to
you
know
in
scale
it's
more
advantageous
for
a
smaller
County
to
receive
the
money
than
it
is
for
a
larger
County,
because
they
have
a
bigger
tax
base?
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
First
of
all,
Urban
suburban
and
Rural
counties
leas
would
all
be
eligible
if
they've
grown
two
percent
over
a
five-year
period,
it
would
be.
The
bill,
leaves
it
up
to
the
Department
of
Education
to
establish
the
procedure
through
which
the
grant
funding
would
be
awarded.
But
the
bill
does
suggest
that
factors
that
could
be
considered
would
be
things
like
the
rate
of
growth,
the
number
of
capital
structures
that
are
in
existence
that
might
need
maintenance
and
the
capital
Improvement
plan
that
the
Lea
has
passed.
D
That
would
identify
the
number
of
new
schools
that
they
plan
on
building,
so
that
the
department
of
of
Education
would
have
a
sense
of
how
many
new
schools
are
going
to
be
built
over
a
certain
period
of
time.
These
are
just
criteria
that
can
be
considered.
The
bill
suggests
that
they
be
considered,
but
it's
ultimately
left
to
the
Department
of
Education.
Thank.
G
D
Bob
I
understand
the
question:
I
guess
anybody
can
sue
anybody
for
anything,
so
I
can't
guarantee
that
someone
wouldn't
come
up
with
a
lawsuit,
but
the
money
would
be
provided
by
the
state
outside
of
the
BEP
funding
formula,
and
so
in
that
way,
if
we're
not
changing
the
BEP
funding
formula,
then
it
seems
like
there.
There
wouldn't
be
a
cause
of
action,
because
we've
changed
the
formula
in
some
in
some
adverse
way.
G
A
A
All
right
we're
going
to
take
a
brief
recess
and
check
with
technology.
A
A
Okay,
okay,
just
ask
Siri:
maybe
she
can
direct
us
on
what
we
need
to
do
down
there.
All
right,
sorry
for
the
interruption,
we'll
be
going
to
house
bill
out
of
number
three
House
Bill
1335.
A
D
Okay,
this
this
bill
provides
a
way
for
an
out-of-state
teacher
preparation
provider
to
operate
in
the
state
of
Tennessee.
The
motivation
for
this
is
partly
due
to
our
shortage
of
teachers.
One
of
the
out-of-state
operators
that
has
been
providing
licensed
teachers
is
a
non-profit
organization
called
the
American
board.
D
It
was
a
non-profit
organization
set
up
several
years
ago
during
the
Bush
Administration
by
the
Department
of
Education,
the
U.S
Department
of
Education,
and
it
was
designed
to
certify
teachers
who
are
older,
middle-aged
career
changer
career
Changers,
without
requiring
them
to
go
back
through
a
university
in
order
to
get
their
certification.
These
are
individuals
that
have
a
number
of
life
experiences
and
could
be
provided
with
an
alternative
path
already
in
the
state
of
Tennessee,
the
American
board
has
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
three
leas,
the
one
for
Putnam
County,
Crockett,
County
and
Tullahoma
nationally.
D
The
American
board
has
provided
over
12
000
certified
teachers,
three
thousand
in
STEM
related
areas
and
according
to
statistics,
that
they've
provided
principles
at
the
three-year
Mark
are
willing
to
retain
97
percent
of
the
individuals
who
have
been
prepared
by
the
American
board
compared
to
a
national
average
of
about
80
percent.
What
this
bill
does
is
it
provides
a
pathway
for
the
American
board
to
operate
Statewide
in
the
in
Tennessee,
without
having
to
sign
a
separate
memorandum
of
understanding
with
143
leas.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation
of
the
amendment.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
the
amendment?
Seeing
none
will
be
voting
on
adopting
Amendment
46-29,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
I
was
opposed,
say
no.
Amendment
is
adopted.
That
brings
us
to
the
second
amendment
that
we
have
chairman.
Sapicki
do
I
have
a
motion
in
a
second
probably
most
internments,
the
picky.
You
are
recognized
on
Amendment
53-24.
H
A
What's
the
drafting
code
on
the
untimely
file
54.
4
80.
do
I
have
a
motion
to
consider
motion.
Second,
all
right,
we
will
be
voting
to
consider
Amendment
5480,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
opposed,
say.
No,
all
right.
We
will
be
hearing
Amendment
5480
chairman
said
picky,
you
are
recognized.
Do
I
have
a
motion
on
this
amendment.
Second,
there
we
go
chairman
speaker,
you're
recognized.
Thank
you.
E
Mr,
chairman
members,
what
chairman
Baum
seeks
to
do
I
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
I
believe
bringing
as
many
people
as
we
can
to
Tennessee
to
provide
quality
teachers
for
our
schools
is
a
noble,
is
a
normal
Prospect.
What
the
amendment
does
is
it
just?
It
requires
this
company
to
go
through
the
same
guidance,
same
approval
process
same
reportings
of
all
of
our
Epp
providers?
That's
all
it
does.
It
doesn't
wish
to
withhold
them
from
being
able
to
come
to
Tennessee.
A
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
chairman
members,
I'm
trying
to
get
all
the
moving
Parts
together
to
to
present
this
bill
in
its
proper
position
for
next
week.
So
I'm
asking
if
the
committee
would
give
me
a
roll
please
for
one
week.
B
A
E
Members
chairman
House
Bill
63,
is
Chairman
Carter's
Bill,
trying
to
define
a
little
bit
for
the
BEP.
What
a
teacher
is
for
when
we
start
to
give
pay
raises
in
the
future.
It
is
the
initial
attempt
of
a
temporary
cleanup
to
the
BEP
to
try
to
give
us
a
better,
some
more
guidance
to
our
locals,
and
let
me
just
read
it
to
you
real,
quick
under
the
definition,
a
teacher
is
someone
who
holds
a
state
license
to
teach
who
spends
50
percent
or
more
time.
E
Instructing
students
in
class
or
online
does
not
include
support,
professionals,
administrators
or
supervisors.
If
that
individual
spends
less
than
50
percent
of
their
time.
Instructing
students
and
this
bill
further
provides
that
if
a
state
salary
increase
is
proposed
in
the
state
budget
document
or
included
in
the
general
Appropriations
bill
for
teachers
and
other
licensed
or
certified
Personnel
or
staff,
then
the
state
budget
document
and
the
general
Appropriations
bill
must
account
for
the
salary
increase
for
teachers,
separate
from
the
salary
increase
for
other
licensed
or
certified
Personnel
or
established
chairman.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation
and
we
will
entertain
some
questions,
but
we
do
have
someone
down
to
that,
wanted
to
be
to
come
forward
and
speak
on
this
bill.
So
without
objection
we
will
go
out
of
session
and
if
Dr
Russell
Dyer
is
in
attendance,
he's
welcome
to
come
forward
and
please
just
state
your
name
and
who
you
represent
for
the
record
when
you
come
forward.
Please.
I
The
committee
members
did
want
to
first
of
all
say
it's
been
an
interesting
year,
as
you
know,
for
educators,
but
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we
aren't
just
surviving,
but
we're
also
thriving
across
the
state,
as
districts
have
made.
Innovative
changes
this
year
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
communities
during
the
covet
crisis.
I'm
thankful
to
our
elected
officials,
at
both
the
state
and
local
levels,
for
their
work
this
year
to
assist
us
in
what's
doing
best
for
our
students
and
our
staff
has
Bill
1363.
I
The
definition
of
the
teacher
does
sound
like
a
bill
that
most
of
us
would
seek
to
support.
The
general
idea
of
the
bill
is
to
ensure
that
teachers
across
the
state
are
receiving
regular
raises
for
their
incredible
work.
They
do
each
and
every
day
that
hard
work
and
dedication
to
the
profession
has
been
spotlighted
this
year,
as
they
do
an
incredible
job
of
teaching
during
a
global
pandemic.
In
no
way
do
I
disagree
that
our
teachers
are
deserving
of
any
and
all
forms
of
compensation
that
are
available
to
them.
I
I
wanted
to
thank
the
sponsors
of
this
bill
for
their
unwavering
support
of
teachers
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
general
assembly
and
Governor
Lee
for
supporting
our
Educators
to
increase
funding
this
year
and
in
past
years.
That
being
said,
I
do
want
to
point
out
some
issues
related
to
this
bill.
That
I
believe
need
to
be
addressed.
Point
a
and
Cleveland
City
Schools
alone,
we
locally
fund,
33,
certified
45
classified
and
seven,
and
a
half
nurses
over
what
is
allotted
in
the
BEP
under
this
bill.
I
would
ask.
I
That
could
be
a
real
issue
for
us
in
the
local
districts
dealing
with
both
our
our
local
funds
and
how
we
fund
those
teachers
that
are
outside
of
the
BEP.
Another
point
to
consider
deals
with
increased
benefits
associated
with
raising
employee
salary.
Well,
new
BEP
dollars
flow
to
the
teachers,
compensation
to
help
districts
cover
Social,
Security
Medicare
and
additional
tcrs
related
expenses
that
go
with
with
pay
increases
that
we
offer
point
B.
Our
teachers
are
definitely
important
and
there's
no
way
we
could
operate
a
school
without
them.
I
However,
if
only
the
teachers
show
up
for
school
one
day
and
the
nurses,
assistants,
School
nutrition
staff,
bus
drivers,
operation
folks
and
others
stay
home,
there's
no
way
that
we
could
open
our
schools
would
raise
us
for
these
very
valued
employees
be
left
up
to
only
local
funding.
If
funding
is
only
dedicated
to
teacher
raises
and
finally
Point
C
regarding
the
50
percent
rule,
how
exactly
would
that
be
monitored?
For
example,
an
elementary
school
counselor
would
easily
hit
the
50
Mark
since
they
go
into
classrooms,
often
to
do
large
group
instruction.
I
However,
a
secondary
school
counselor
is
more
geared
toward
other
types
of
work
both
affect
students
in
huge
ways,
but
due
to
the
nature
of
their
jobs
they
may
or
not,
May
or
not,
may
or
may
not.
Excuse
me
be
actually
in
a
classroom
setting,
as
often
other
groups
fall
into
this
issue
as
well
again.
The
idea
behind
this
bill
is
lofty,
but
the
implementation
could
be
could
be
problematic.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today
and
for
allowing
me
to
spend
time
with
you
regarding
this
bill.
G
Thank
you,
chairman
and
director
help
me
out
a
little
bit.
What
we're
trying
to
figure
out
up
here
and
I
agree
with
everything
you
say
I,
but
where
this
bill
came
from
every
year
it
came
innocently
as
you
right.
As
you
probably
know,
right
every
year,
when
we
try
to
put
money
in
the
governor's
budget
to
give
teachers
a
pay,
raise
absolutely
and
then
they
say
well,
we
didn't
get
it
because
all
the
above
that
you're
describing
so
if
Tennessee
wants
to
move
the
pay
scale
ahead
for
teachers.
G
I
You
know
the
pinpoint
here
would
be
you
know
if
you,
if
you
go
about
defining
that
teacher
as
that
50
percent
person
in
the
classroom,
what
do
you
do
with
those
other
employees?
And
what
do
you
do
for
those
teachers
that
don't
fit
under
the
BEP?
That's
that's
where
the
pinch
comes
in
I,
believe
in
this.
In
this
particular
bill.
I
I
think
so,
and
again
I'm
not
a
lawyer
but
based
on
what
I've
been
reading
and
based
on
what
I've
seen
so
far
that
if
you
define
that
teacher
in
a
very
limited
way
and
raise
is
implemented
at
the
state
level
only
for
teachers,
then
I
think
we
would
be
stuck
there
and
funding
that
teachers
only
and
other
raises
would
either
have
to
come
from
other
allocated
money
coming
from
the
state
or
from
local
funds.
In
order
to
ensure
our
bus
drivers,
our
nurses
and
others
are
taken
care
of
as
well.
A
We're
back
on
House
Bill
1363..
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
You
have
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
say.
E
The
concerns
that
superintendent,
Dyer,
yes,
superintendent,
Dyer
bring
up
are
one
of
the
issues
that
we
faced
long
before
I.
Think
probably
all
of
us
have
been
here.
Maybe
a
couple-
maybe
no,
but
this
is
an
issue.
That's
been
ongoing
with
the
BEP
I'm
talking
about
you,
chairman
white,
chairman
Reagan.
E
We
get
into
this
issue
where
we
say
a
two
percent.
We
say
a
200
million
dollar
increase
and
what
we
do
is
we
insert
that
into
the
instructional
component
of
the
BEP
in
that
construction,
instructional
line
of
the
BEP
everything
that
the
superintendent
has
talked
about
they
can
address
at
the
local
level.
They
can
give
the
pay
raise
to
bus
driver
thinking
of
the
pay
raise
to
food
staff
Librarians.
They
can
give
it
to
everybody
that
they've
approved
to
be
hired
above
the
BEP.
E
That's
the
flexibility
that
they
have
basic
education
program.
Now
one
could
argue
that,
maybe
to
move
Tennessee
forward
an
education,
it
needs
to
stop
being
basic
education
program
and
maybe
Superior
education
program.
That's
a
debate
that
we
have
to
have
as
legislators
up
there
and
what
we
can
afford
as
a
state
to
move
Tennessee
forward.
E
But
right
now
we
currently
fund
the
BEP
is
to
be.
Is
the
BEP
adequate
enough?
Maybe
that's
a
discussion
that
we
all
need
to
sit
down
and
have
with
input
from
the
locals,
but
the
issues
that
we've
had
and
as
a
county
commissioner
in
Murray
County
I
face
the
same
issues
that
the
state
allocates
a
certain
amount
of
personnel
and
the
locals
high
or
above
and
beyond
that,
and
here
we
sit
with
this
issue.
What
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
bill
is
Define.
E
What
a
teacher
is
the
bill
doesn't
say
that
if
we
do
give
a
pay
raise,
we
can't
give
a
pay.
We
can't
give
an
increase
to
the
instructional
component,
you're
doing
a
great
job
that
we
can't
give
a
pay
raise
to
the
instructional
component
of
the
BEP
and
the
teachers
there's
no
limiting
factor
in
this
bill.
E
All
we're
stating
is
if
the
if
the
governor
and
we
decide
to
give
a
x
amount
of
pay
increase
to
our
teachers,
and
we
want
to
also
fund
x
amount
in
the
instructional
component
line,
at
least
the
locals
know
where
we
have
the
intention
of
spending
our
money,
so
I
hope
that's
an
explanation.
There
I
think
we
do
have
a
larger
issue
here
that
we
need
to
tackle.
It
is
basic.
We
can
look
at
awesome
and
supreme
education
program
if
we
want,
but
that's
that's
a
bill
for
another
day.
F
Thank
you
and
Chairman's
picky
the
issue
that
was
raised
by
Our
Guest.
How
is
that
going
to
be
resolved
or
will
it
be
resolved
with
this
bill.
E
E
It
doesn't
limit
the
ability
of
us
to
also
put
more
money
in
the
instructional
component
for
other
Personnel
in
in
the
local
level,
but
what
we
do
is
we
say
all
the
time
and
we've
we've
all
been
part
of
this
for
a
while.
We
give
an
x
amount
of
pay
raise
for
teachers,
and
then
our
teachers
call
us
on
the
phone
and
say:
hey.
I
never
saw
that
or
I
saw
400
bucks
in
my
paycheck
when
I
was
supposed
to
get
two
thousand
dollars.
E
J
J
This
will
simply
provide
a
variable,
so
to
speak,
that
we
can
delineate
from
when
we're
addressing
this
issue
and
also
the
other
issue
I
had
concerns
about.
Was
you
know
this
I
don't
want
this
in
any
way,
preventing
us
from
adequately
pain,
our
parapros
and
support
staff
and
I.
Think
you
addressed
that
issue
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
that.
If
you
have
any
clarification
or
want
to
follow
up,
feel
free
thanks,
Mr
chairman.
E
A
Okay,
that
brings
us
to
item
number
six
by
I
mean
House
Bill
1342
representative
carringer
do
I
have
a
motion,
property
motion,
representative
carringer.
You
are
recognized.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
to
the
members.
I
am
bringing
this
bill.
Hb,
1342
I
know
I,
do
not
look
like
representative
ogles
once.
A
Okay,
all
right
properly
motioned,
since
it
makes
the
bill
let's
go
ahead
and
get
it
on
the
bill
here,
we'll
be
vote.
Drafting
number
4781
is
that
what
you
have
okay,
we'll
be
voting
on
adopting
a
minute
47.81,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no.
We
were
back
on
the
bill
as
amended.
You
were
recognize
representing
carringer.
B
B
Essentially,
what
it
is
doing
is
when
teachers
are
required
to
work
remotely
and
provide
virtual
instruction
to
students
that
they
will
have
to
take
a
leave
while
on
a
leave
to
take
day
while
they're
on
virtual
school.
So
if
they're
doing
virtual
and
they
need
to
take
a
day
off
or
whatever
they,
they
need
to
take
that
as
a
leave.
A
A
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
eight
House,
Bill
1332
by
representative
Harris,
properly
motioned
I.
Believe
we
have
an
untimely
filed.
Amendment
do
I,
have
a
motion,
a
motion
to
consider
all
right.
We
will
be
voting
to
hear
Amendment
5477,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no
all
right.
We
cannot
do
I,
have
a
motion
on
Amendment
5477,
properly
motioned,
with
all
that
we
are
now
on
Amendment,
5477,
representative
Harris.
You
are
recognized
to
explain
your
Amendment
all.
K
Right,
thank
you
so
much
chairman
and
to
the
committee
for
this
opportunity
to
explain
this
bill.
Hb
1332
would
ensure
that
an
Lea
or
Public
Charter
School
would
not
prohibit
a
child
placed
in
foster
care
from
participating
in
a
school-sponsored
student
activity
or
event
based
solely
on
the
child's
residency
placed
in
foster
care
placement
in
foster
care.
This
has
been
an
issue
in
multiple
districts
and,
after
speaking,
with
TSS
AAA
school
districts,
foster
parents
and
even
Foster
youth
about
the
impact
I'm
glad
to
be
able
to
bring
forth
this
legislation.
K
K
Soon
the
coach
found
out
that
he
was
an
ndcs
care
and
informed
him
that
he
could
not
play
due
to
the
tssaa
residency
Clause.
So
the
school
told
him
that
if
he
touches
the
field
that
he
would
be
disqualified
or
fined,
Cameron
was
absolutely
devastated
and
you
can
only
imagine
how
damaging
this
could
be.
For
someone
like
Cameron
an
opportunity
to
do
something
that
he
loves
to
continue
to
gain
social
skills,
his
motivation
to
want
to
be
involved
and
to
get
denied
playing
a
sport.
K
Because
of
the
length
of
time
he
had
been
placed
at
no
fault
of
his
own.
The
current
process
is
that
school
identity
School
must
submit
an
application
to
t
s
s
a
a
for
each
student.
One
of
the
rules
is
that
a
student
reside
in
a
home
with
a
guardian
for
at
least
one
year
prior
to
playing,
and
that
was
put
in
place
to
make
sure
that
students
didn't
jump
from
school
to
school
to
play
at
the
school.
K
They
considered
a
better
school
and
instead
in
Cameron's
situation,
he's
under
DCS
care,
where
our
leas
do
not
complete,
where,
if
a
Lea
does
not
complete
the
additional
transfer
or
hardship
paperwork
to
inform
tssaa
that
a
student
may
be
in
DCS
care
that
they
would
be
held
back
from
being
able
to
play
in
this
process.
And
so
this
bill
here
would
kind
of
more
so
enforce
the
the
rules
to
make
sure
that
our
leas
follow
and
follow
through
to
ensure
that
tssaa
has
an
opportunity
to
properly
review
properly
review
that
application.
Before
denying
it.
A
Take
that
explanation,
any
questions
chairman
sapiki
you're
recognized.
E
Thank
you,
chairman,
hasten
I,
appreciate
the
sponsor
working
with
us
on
this
bill.
Working
with
tws
double
A
I
have
heard
no
complaints
from
tws
double
A
on
this
amendment
in
his
current
position.
So
at
this
time
I'll
be
supporting
your
your
your
Amendment
your
bill.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
A
Thank
you.
Question
on
the
minute
has
been
called
we'll,
be
voting
on
Amendment
5477,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill.
As
amended
question
has
been
called
seeing.
No
objections
we'll
be
voting
on
House
Bill
1332,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no
I
always
have
it
on
the
full
education.
Thank
you,
committee.
H
Recognized
thank
you
chairman
thank
committee
I'm.
Basically,
with
House
Bill
44
increases
the
amount
of
social
workers
from
one
in
two
thousand
currently
with
the
BP
ratio
to
one
in
1500.,
students.
A
G
Thank
you,
chairman.
Okay,
my
only
question
is
you
got
a
6.6
million
fiscal
note.
In
course
we
believe.
As
social
workers,
we
got
another
bill,
adding
nurses,
we
want
to
do
more
nurses
moving
forward.
What
do
you
think
the
chances
on
on
whatever
chairman
Sparks.
H
I
got
a
sign
on
sheet
by
the
way
Glenn
can
sign
on.
If
he
wants
to
you
know
it's
a
great
question.
I
wish
you
wouldn't
have
brought
it
up,
though,
but
but
you
know
here,
here's
what
I
want
the
committee
to
understand.
You
know
and
I
said
this
last
year,
because
we
passed
this
last
year
to
the
Freshman
we
passed
this
last
year
and
I'd
have
never
thought.
I'd
carry
this
bill
11
years
ago.
H
I
never
would
have
thought
it,
but
here's
where
this
came
from
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
put
together
a
little
conference
at
my
at
Parkway
Baptist
Church
and
my
assistant
Marvin
and
I,
just
put
it
together
and
and
we
invited
two
School
superintendents.
We
invited
a
Judge
Barry
Tidwell
Dr,
Brian,
Terry,
Tennessee,
Mental,
Health
Cooperative
other
folks
that
care
about
the
the
got
another
commissioner
Steve
Irvin.
Sadly,
he
had
passed
away.
H
He
was
with
the
drug
court
in
Rutherford
County,
and
what
came
out
of
this
was
a
consensus
that
I
took
out
of
this
out
of
that
conference.
We
had
110.
Folks
was
what
Dr,
Linda
Gilbert
said
and
I
want
to
share
this
quote.
If
I
could
chairman,
sadly,
she
passed
away,
but
here's
what
she
wrote
me
before
she
died
yeah.
H
She
said
good
evening,
I
apologize
for
being
so
delayed
in
responding.
Please
thank
represent
Sparks
for
reaching
out.
Yes,
more
funding
for
counselors
will
certainly
help
with
the
social
emotional
issues
we're
seeing.
Another
area
is
social
workers.
There
are
vital
and
in
many
school
districts
they
are
not
able
to
fund
them.
I
also
think
it
would
helpful
for
him
and
other
legislators
to
talk
with
school
superintendents
about
the
issues
we're
seeing
in
very
young
children.
This
is
what
alarmed
me
she
said.
H
H
What
they're
trying
to
accomplish
in
this
area,
with
the
emphasis
on
the
whole
child
I'm
hopeful
that
the
department
of
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
will
work
alongside
them
to
help
address
the
upper
tier
of
children
with
whom
there
seems
to
be
no
answers,
and
sadly
she
passed
away
a
few
months
after
that
that
lady
right,
there
probably
knew
more
about
education
than
most
of
us
will
ever
know.
A
lot
of
folks
had
a
lot
of
respect
for
back
in
Rutherford
County.
H
The
department
had
a
lot
of
respect
for
you
know,
chairman
white,
my
logic
is
you
know,
maybe
we
we
moved
this
pendulum,
the
needle
just
a
little
bit.
You
know,
maybe
we
move
it.
Ten
percent,
maybe
five
percent,
maybe
20,
but
I-
think
everyone
on
this
committee
that
may
not
even
sign
on
this
legislation
would
agree
that
mental
health
is
at
an
all-time
high.
Everyone
has
said
said
it
everyone
and
that's
what
I
hope
to
accomplish
with
this.
Maybe
we
don't
fund
the
nurses.
A
Any
other
questions
what's
about
representative
Clemens,
you're
recognized
yeah
thank.
J
You
Mr
chairman
and
Mr
Sparks
I,
appreciate
you
bringing
this
legislation
because
I
think
the
key
words
there
and
that
statement
from
that
lady
were
the
whole
child.
Yes,
and
that's
what
we
need
to
address
in
our
school
system.
J
When
able-
and
you
know
I've
said
it
before-
and
you
all
heard
me
say
it
time
and
time
again,
what
happens
to
these
children
in
a
community
or
what
they
go
through
in
the
community
comes
into
that
school
building
and
into
the
classroom,
and
our
teachers
are
having
to
address
and
deal
with
a
lot
of
things
for
which
they
weren't
trained
and
they
don't
have
adequate
resources.
They
need
all
the
help
they
can
get,
and
these
children
need
all
the
resources
that
we
can
provide
them
when
they're
in
our
schools.
J
A
A
All
right
that
brings
us
to
item
number
12.,
House,
Bill
861
by
representative
Akeem,
okay,
properly
motioned
I
believe
we
have
a
untimely
filed.
Amendment
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
consider
all
right.
What's
the
drafting
code
that
you
have
on
that
before
we
take
that
I
want
to
get
that
down
five
six.
Eight.
Seven,
all
right
we'll
be
voting
to
hear
five,
six,
eight,
seven,
all
those
in
favor
of,
say
aye,
as
opposed
to
say.
A
No
all
right
do
I,
have
a
motion
and
a
second
the
eyes
have
it
do
I
have
a
motion
a
second
on
56.87,
properly
motioned.
You
were
recognized
on
Amendment,
5687,
representative
Akeem.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chairman
and.
H
and
essentially
what
it
says
is
that
instead
of
the
20
million
20
parts
per
billion,
it
would
be
moved
to
15
parts
per
million,
and
what
this
would
do
would
put
us
in
line
with
federal
guidelines
and
other
than
that.
There's
no
changes
to
the
to
the
guidelines
as
they
stand
at
this
time.
A
You've
heard
the
explanation
of
the
amendment:
does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
the
amendment
see?
None
will
be
voting
to
adopt
Amendment
5687,
all
those
in
favor
of
adopting
this
amendment,
please
say
I'm
supposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
House
Bill,
861,
representative
Akeem.
Do
you
have
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
add
no
Mr
chairman,
hopefully
move
for
a
passage.
A
B
A
L
Let
me
turn
that
down.
Thank
you,
chairman
and
members.
Yes,
we
do
have
Amendment
zero,
zero.
Four,
eight
seven,
eight
all
right
do
I,
have
a
motion.
A
Properly
motioned,
you
were
recognized
on
Amendment
4878.
A
L
Thank
you,
chairman
I'm
here
today,
with
this
bill
house
bill,
12,
28
and
the
reason
I'm
coming
today
is
because
of
I
have
a
lot
of
people.
That's
come
to
me
even
before
I
was
elected
in
2016.
L
wanting
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
their
superintendent
of
schools,
and
it
was
changed
back
in
1982
from
being
elected
to
today,
of
being
appointed,
it
was
changed
and
and
I
told
them
that
I
would
try
my
best
to
look
at
this
and
I
have
not
tried
to
carry
a
bill
with
it
now.
I
know
it's
been
bills
carried
on
it
before
to
see
it's
been
changed
to
elected,
but
my
bill
is
a
little
bit
different
than
some
that
has
been
in
the
past.
L
L
All
we're
trying
to
do
primarily
today
is
give
some
Freedom
back
to
the
people,
the
voters
that
you
could
have
an
opportunity
if
we
get
if
we
have
the
blessing
from
you
and
the
good
Lord
above
to
get
this
bill
back
home,
that
people
back
home
can
have
that
opportunity
to
maybe
elect
their
superintendent
of
school
versus
being
appointed.
But
if
you
want
to
in
your
county
or
your
District,
want
to
continue
on
appointing
your
superintendent
of
school
great,
if
you
want
to
in
your
District
or
County.
L
If
you
want
to
have
the
opportunity
to
elect
your
superintendent
of
school,
hopefully
if
this
will
go
forward,
you'll
have
that
opportunity
to
elect
that's
what
we
are
here
today,
we're
here
down
here
in
nice
for
working
for
the
people.
I
hope
that
we
are
listening
to
the
people
what
the
people
want.
L
Our
freedoms
are
being
taken
away
from
us
every
day
right
and
let's
give
our
people
back
the
freedom
give
them
an
opportunity,
we're
not
trying
to
change
the
qualifications
of
a
superintendent
school,
we're
just
trying
to
give
that
freedom
to
the
people,
so
primarily
just
just
small
thing
here.
All
we're
doing
you
have
the
option
in
this
bill
to
continue
on
electing
I,
mean
appointing
your
superintendent
or
have
the
option
to
let
the
people
elect
your
superintendent
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
even
down
here.
L
I've
had
a
lot
of
people,
members
that
is
likes
this
ideal
because
there's
an
option
in
it,
there's
not
a
just
a
one
way:
I've
had
different
ones
that
come
today
to
me
and
and
even
had
some
sign
on
to
the
bill.
You
know
we're
not
trying
to
take
money
from
nobody
and
we're
just
trying.
You
know,
as
as
teachers
has
come
to
me
and
board
members
school
board,
members
has
come
to
be
and
say
we'd
like
that
opportunity.
L
They
can't
say
a
lot
in
front
of
their
superintendent
school
and
I
understand
that,
but
they
want
that
freedom
and
I
just
asked
you
today.
If
you
would
consider
if
we
would
today
to
try
to
move
this
forward
and
let
some
more
people
voice
their
opinion,
what
they
feel
about
it.
The
members
and
I
appreciate
your
help
and
and
consideration
on
this
bill.
If
you
do
that
today,.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
We
do
have
some
money,
someone
on
the
list
that
did
want
to
to
testify
on
this,
and
so
without
objection.
We
will
go
out
of
session
and
Mr
our
Dr
Weeks
from
Dickson
County
Schools.
If
you
could
come
up
and
just
for
the
record,
make
sure
to
state
your
name
and
who
you
represent
and
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
around
three
minutes
and
then
we'll
open
up
for
some
questions.
A
M
You
committee
members
I,
do
come
today
as
as
the
superintendent
of
schools
in
Dickson,
County
I
am
the
Middle
Tennessee
representative
of
the
mid-cumberland
district,
so
I'm
elected
by
16
school
districts
right
here
in
serving
Middle
Tennessee,
obviously
have
come
to
oppose
the
the
bill
is
presented.
M
M
M
I
need
to
be
making
decisions
that
are
in
the
best
interest
of
students,
of
my
staff
of
my
teachers
and,
what's
best
for
Education,
not
what's
best
for
my
political
campaign,
I
respect
the
jobs
that
each
of
you
do
and
running
for
a
political
office.
I
know
that's
bound
to
be
a
tough
position
to
be
in.
M
Be
so
I
assure
you
that
we
are
in
that
situation,
I'm
not
alone
by
myself.
In
the
mid-cumberland
district,
there
are
16
superintendents.
Four
of
those
superintendents
were
recruited
from
out
of
state
Millard
house
and
Clarksville
Montgomery
County
Kathy
Beck
and
Cheatham
County
David
Snowden
and
Franklin
Special
schools
and
Donna
Wright
in
Wilson
County.
M
M
A
Anybody
have
any
questions
for
our
guests.
I
did
have
one
I
noticed
on
the
the
time
frame
here,
I
think
with
the
election
in
August.
It
says
that
the
next,
if
there
was
a
new
director
that
came
in
it,
would
be
September
1st
would
be
the
start
date.
That
seems
to
be
pretty
struck
tough
area
for
a
new
director
to
come
in
on
a
start
date
of
September
1st.
When
does
your
school
year
usually
begin?
Even
if
you
go
back
to
in-service
our.
M
Fiscal
years
run
from
July
1st
to
June
30th,
most
superintendent
contracts
I
think
take
place
early
June
because
they're
hired
to
to
start
that
new
school
year
to
go
through
the
budgeting
process.
You
know
they're
just
multiple
problems.
If
you
know,
if
it's
transitionary
between
something
like
that,
so.
A
Thank
you.
Any
other
questions
represent,
hurt,
you're,
recognized.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
and
understand
every
everything
you've
said
and
totally
respected,
but
I
guess
the
question
I
would
have.
According
to
the
amendment
here,
it's
a
pretty
high
threshold,
two-thirds
municipality,
Municipal,
legislative
body
or
County
Commission.
Then
a
referendum
from
the
voters.
If
a
district
can
meet
that
threshold.
L
M
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
I
think
mainly.
This
is
really
an
Antiquated
method
of
of
selecting
a
superintendent
I
think
there
are
only
a
few
southern
states
that
still
do
that
and
a
few
few
of
those
states
are
moving
away
from
it
again.
We've
moved
away
from
this
process
in
1992.,
basically
again,
I
I
think
you
would
be
more
politicizing
the
position
you
know,
I
I
make
campaign
promises
to
to
hire
certain
teachers,
fire
certain
coaches,
hire
or
or
promote
certain
people
to
those
individual
processes,
and
so
I
think
I.
G
Chairman
what
you
brought
up
a
point:
Thank
You,
chairman
you're,
probably
opponent,
I,
really
had
and
thought
about
you.
You
said
you're
originally
from
Robinson
County.
Yes,
sir
now
you're
in
Dixon.
Yes,
sir,
if
we
had
elected
superintendents,
really
you
got
people
who
basically
live
in
that
district
for
years
and
years
and
probably
most
of
their
lifetime
having
elected
superintendents.
M
Like
to
thank
that
and
chairman
white,
thank
you
for
those
those
comments,
but
yesterday
it
does
limit
the
you
know.
It
would
certainly
limit
the
the
pool
to
those
who
are
candidates
in
that
county.
I'm
very
happy
I
was
I
was
very
happy
to
be
recruited.
But
again
the
the
school
board
sets
those
criteria
as
they
set
search
criteria
for
new
director
of
schools,
and
so
you
know
they
they
can
value.
E
Thank
you
for
coming
to
testify
today.
The
relationship
that
you
have
with
your
board
is
a
board
and
you're
an
employee.
Yes,
sir,
they
can
terminate
you
when
you're
not
doing
your
job
as
they.
You
said
15
days,
yes,
sir,
if
we,
if
you're
elected
by
the
people
of
that
County,
do
they
we're
going
to
run
into
an
issue
is:
do
they
have
their
ability
to
remove
you
now
right,
yes,
sir,
so
then
you
could
have
a
little
bit.
One
could
argue
you
could
have
the
autonomy
to
do
what
you
want
as
a
superintendent.
E
The
board
still
has
to
approve
it
because
it
has
to
go
to
the
County
commission
for
funding.
We
are,
we
do
you
believe
we
might
be
creating
an
adversarial
relationship
that
may
already
exist
between
school
boards
and
County
commissions.
Are
we
going
to
make
an
adversarial
relationship
between
now
the
superintendent
and
the
school
board,
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
education
on
move
move
forward?
What
do
you
think
chairman.
M
I
think
that's
absolutely
correct,
because
if,
if,
if
I'm
elected
by
the
people
I
report
to
the
people,
whereas
now
I
report
to
to
the
Board
of
Education
I
can
see
all
kinds
of
conflicts,
you
know
who
who
who
signs
my
check?
Who
gives
me
direction?
What
what
methods
do
we
use
in
instruction?
What
textbooks
do
we
use?
What
direction
do
we
go
as
a
district,
and
so
if
I'm
accountable
to
the
people
and
the
school
board
has
no
influence
over
my
contracts?
You
know
it's.
It's
purely
a
political
office.
E
E
Is
we
put
ourselves
in
a
position?
Where
are
we
doing
what's
best
for
the
kids,
because
as
a
superintendent
right
now,
you
have
to
answer
to
your
board
and
that
board
has
to
answer
to
the
people,
or
are
we
going
to
create
a
situation
where
a
superintendent
may
or
may
not
care
what
his
board
thinks
and
goes
in
a
different
direction?
E
A
M
And
each
superintendent's
contract,
the
the
law
requires
that
that
we
as
superintendents
be
evaluated
publicly
on
an
annual
basis
and
so
on
an
annual
basis.
My
con
each
of
my
board
members,
has
the
opportunity
to
evaluate
me
on
the
criteria
that
we
established
in
my
contract
that
must
be
done
in
April
or
May
preceding
my
contract
being
renewed
in
in
my
case
in
June.
Each
superintendent's
contract
is
a
little
different
and
the
the
terms
of
their
evaluation
are
based
on
their
negotiations
when
they
accepted
that
position.
M
A
I'm
guessing
it
that
it's
it's
data
driven
it's
you
know
it
has
a
lot
of
yes.
A
So
I
guess
I
guess.
One
of
my
concerns
is
is
that
right
now
we
have
this
in
place
and
and
I
know
your
every
situation
may
be
different,
but
you
have
a
school
board.
That's
evaluating
specific
items
that
are
I,
think
targeted
towards
the
development
of
education,
programs
and
and
our
school,
and
you
know,
what's
going
to
be
the
criteria
of
how
you're
getting
evaluated
when
it's
up
for
a
vote,
I
mean.
A
F
M
I
am
that
that
was
the
last
component.
I
said,
based
upon
our
accountant,
our
state
accountability
model
I'm
accountable
for
those
same
things,
our
ICT
score,
our
attendance,
our
graduation
rate,
TCAP
scores
all
that
is
a
portion
of
my
evaluation,
but.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
for
our
guest,
see
you
none.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
We'll
be
going
back
into
session,
we're
back
on
House
Bill,
1228,
representative
Cheryl.
Do
you
have
any
other
comments
before
I
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
L
Again,
chairman
and
committee
I'm
not
here
to
say
bad
about
the
superintendent
schools
I'm
just
here,
trying
to
hopefully
be
a
voice
for
the
people
and
that
we
can
give
them
back
that
freedom
that
they'd
like
to
have,
and
it
was
changed
in
1992
and
I
just
like
for
you
to.
A
B
I,
don't
really
have
a
question.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
had
signed
on
to
this
when
representative
Cheryl
came
to
me,
because
I
represent
district
16
in
Knox,
County
and
and
I
have
been
involved
and
elected
and
appointing
our
superintendents,
but
every
year
come
time
for
General
Assembly
to
convene
and
get
together
and
all
it's
in
every
meeting
I'm
I'm
in
about.
We
want
to
elect
our
superintendent
again
and
Knox.
B
County
just
went
through
on
the
charter
review,
one
of
the
few
states
that
have
elect
county
law
director
and
we
just
went
through
that,
regardless
of
whatever
my
personal
view,
is
I'm
elected
by
the
people
in
my
district,
and
we
put
it
back
out
on
the
ballot
and
voted
and
and
again
the
people
in
Knox
County
said
we
want
to
elect
our
Knox
County
law
director
same
way
that
I
keep
hearing
and
have
heard
for
years
and
years
ever
since
it's
been
changed
and
particularly
District
16..
B
So
I
am
here
on
this
because
there
is
a
difference
and
before
it's
been
brought
up,
no,
we
want
to
elect
the
thing
that
representative
Cheryl
is
saying:
let's
take
it
back
to
the
locals
Let
each
local
County
decide
and
they
don't
have
to
do
anything.
They
don't
have
to
change
anything,
but
we
are
here
at
the
will
of
the
people
and
so
I'm
I
I
am
voting
with
representative
Cheryl
and
and
as
I've
spoke
to
everyone
they
all
know.
Why
is
because
my
district
elected
to
send
me
here
to
do
their
job?
B
Job
and
I
have
to
represent
them
here,
and
this
is
the
majority
of
what
my
people
so
I'm
just
saying:
leave
it
let
Knox
County,
Commission
or
you
know,
do
decide
if
they
want
to
change
it
or
not,
but
I'm
like
always
bringing
it
back
to
the
local
people,
because
every
area
is
different
and
I
agree
with
everything.
That's
been
said
and
I'm,
just
like
representative
Cheryl,
not
here
to
start
up
anything
I'm
just
representing
District
16,
and
this
is
what
they
have
wanted
for
some
time.
B
G
L
E
A
picky
you
recognized
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
Mr
Cheryl's,
worked
very
representative
Cheryl's
worked
very
hard
on
this
bill.
There's
a
lot
of
passion
on
both
sides
of
this
I.
Don't
know
if
we
have
enough
information
to
make
a
decision
right
now
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
send
this
to
Summer
study
for
more
Clarity
Mr
chairman.
A
B
N
N
N
N
They
are
extensively
trained
to
manage
or
deal
with
crisis
and
are
equipped
to
assist
School
administrators
and
teachers
in
a
crisis,
something
we
are
seeing
more
and
more
frequently
in
our
schools,
because
I
taught
students
with
emotional
disturbances
and
behavior
disorders.
I've
worked
a
little
more
closely
with
social
workers
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
what
a
difference
it
can
make
in
one
week,
I
did
home
visits
with
my
social
worker,
because
I
had
an
assistant
in
my
class.
N
We
went
to
one
house
and
we
found
out
the
student
was
absent
because
he
only
had
one
pair
of
pants
and
one
shirt
and
he
was
embarrassed
to
let
anybody
know
that
and
he
was
embarrassed
to
come
to
school,
and
so
that
was
something
the
social
worker
solved
in
two
days
and
easily
solved
problem.
But
how
long
would
that
have
gone
on
if
we
didn't
have
that
information?
If
we
couldn't
go
to
the
home?
N
This
girl
was
so
concerned
because
her
mother
was
not
able
to
go
to
the
doctor,
but
was
so
concerned
that
something
would
happen
to
her
mother
that
she
was
not
coming
to
school
and-
and
we
had
another
situation
where
a
student
got
a
job,
because
his
dad
lost
his
job
and
all
of
these
things
were
found
out
because
it
was
a
visit
to
by
the
social
worker
to
home.
All
of
these
students
ended
up
graduating
and
they
wouldn't
have
graduated.
N
If
we
had
not
solved
that
problem,
and
so
everything
that
social
workers
do
they're
able
to
solve
these
problems,
they
can
go
to
the
home
work
with
the
community.
They
are
so
well
suited
to
do
these
things.
The
reason
our
kids
are
not
being
successful.
The
readings
and
our
kids
are
not
reading
by
third
grade
is
not
because
teachers
aren't
teaching
hard
enough
is
because
they
don't
have
the
supports
to
help
them
succeed
and
social
workers
can
provide
those
supports.
A
G
N
N
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
My
question
basically
goes
back
to
have
you
sought
an
opinion
from
the
AG
on
whether
or
not
this
is
going
to
impact
existing
lawsuits
over
the
BEP.
N
F
Chairman
Reagan
follow
up
on
that.
Then.
How
are
you
planning
on
allocating
these
social
workers
because
the
core
of
the
lawsuits
as
I
understand
it,
has
to
do
with
what
is
perceived
as
unequal
allocations
of
the
resources
through
the
BEP?
If
we're
going
to
allocate
more
resources,
whether
they're
social
workers
or
or
whatever
it
looks
to
me,
like
we're
still
facing
that
same
problem,
your
bill
does
not
seem
to
address.
That.
Is
that
correct
representative
Johnson.
N
F
Dragon
again
not
I,
don't
want
to
appear
contentious,
but
that
is
the
way
we
do
business
right
now,
allocating
nurses
and
and
have
other
issues
that
are
in
the
BEP
formula.
Yet
we're
still
having
lawsuits
over
that
unequal
allocation,
I
I
question
whether
or
not
as
as
worthy
as
this
sounds
and
you've
made
a
compelling
case.
But
as
worthy
as
it
sounds,
I
can't
see
how
we
can
avoid
exacerbating
the
lawsuits
that
are
already
in
place
and
not
shall
we
say
creating
more
representative
Johnson.
A
Representative
Clemens
you're
recognized
I'm.
Sorry,
representative
love.
You
were
on
the
list
before
that
I.
I
I
Johnson,
for
bringing
this
legislation
as
I
was
grateful
for
the
representative
Sparks
also
about
his
and
I'm,
so
very
grateful
that
we
have
a
committee
system
that
can
look
at
all
these
Myriad
funding
issues
and
we
can
always
find
some
money
in
the
budget,
because
I
know
that
one
report
is
that
we've
had
revenues
come
in
a
little
bit
higher
than
we
thought
they
would,
and
so
I
would
applaud
you
for
this
effort,
and
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
as
we
are
backlogged
with
so
many
bills,
to
to
encourage
Finance,
Ways
and
Means
to
tackle
this
issue
of
how
to
fund
this
issue.
I
But
the
premise
of
your
bill
is
excellent:
to
get
more
social
workers
into
our
school
systems
to
help
our
children
overcome
these
issues.
Dealing
with
all
the
mental
health
challenges
that
they
face,
pre-covet
and
now
in
covert
so
I
would
certainly
be
supporting
the
Bill.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it.
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
appreciate
this
legislation.
Representative
Johnson
I,
like
it
even
more
than
the
last
bill
and
I'll
spare
the
committee
I
spoke
my
piece
on
the
last
bill,
but
I
think
that
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
helping
children
respond
from
a
pandemic
or
recover
from
a
pandemic.
J
This
is
one
of
the
most
important
ways
to
assist
our
children
moving
forward,
addressing
their
needs
with
social
workers
and
providing
our
teachers
with
assistance
is
vital
and
when
you
have
social
workers
that
are
having
that
are
overworked
and
can't
do
their
job,
they
can't
identify
the
needs
of
children.
They
can
identify
the
children
who
who
have
the
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
and
then
work
with
those
children
on
the
back
end
you're,
not
really
addressing
the
need.
So
this
is
so
very
important.
J
Thank
goodness
again,
we
have
a
committee
process,
as
representative
love
said
that
can
address
the
fiscal
issues
or
figure
this
out,
but
we're
going
to
spend
money.
We
might
as
well
spend
it
on
children
in
the
education
system
and
make
sure
every
child
has
an
equal
opportunity
to
get
an
education
and
that's
what
this
bill
seeks
to
do
so
I.
Thank
you
for
this
legislation
and
it
has
zero
zero
to
do
with
Penny
and
litigation.
Thank
you.
E
E
E
We
need
to
be
sending
a
message
that
we
need
to
close
that
Gap
in
our
classrooms.
I
agree
with
you
social
workers,
great
idea.
We
have
to
prioritize
this.
We've
got
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
better
teachers
in
our
classrooms.
We
have
to
find
more
qualified
teachers
somewhere
in
this,
because
they're
not
coming
out
of
Tennessee
right
now.
N
A
Any
other
questions
for
our
sponsor
see:
none
will
be
voting
on
House
Bill
1291,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no
knows
have
it.
The
bill
does
not
pass.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
17,
House
Bill
1293
do
I,
have
a
motion.
A
Properly
motioned
representative
Johnson,
you
are
recognized.
N
Thank
you
so
this
bill.
What
it
does
we
talk
again,
we
talk
a
lot
about
reading
by
third
grade
level,
and
so,
when
you
talk
to
reading
Specialists
and
reach
out
to
teachers,
one
of
the
best
and
most
proven
things
we
can
do
is
make
sure
that
teachers
have
a
class
size
where
they
can
spend
the
amount
of
time
needed
with
every
child.
This
bill
caps,
kindergarten,
first
and
second
grade
at
15.
N
There's
there's
the
research
as
well
as
just
in
talking
with
teachers,
I
sent
out
a
thing
to
all
teachers.
Just
saying,
let
me
know
what
you
think
about
this
and
I
got.
Oh.
There
was
this
one
year:
I
had
only
16
students
and
it
was
unbelievable.
Every
kid
of
mine
came
out
of
that
classroom
with
every
skill
they
needed
and
it
was
a
lot
of
anecdotal
evidence,
but
it
also
just
goes
to
back
up
what
the
research
says.
N
So
what
we
do
a
lot
of
times
and
even
what
we
did
in
special
session,
was
we
created
a
summer
school
and,
and
we
created
after
school?
Not
all
kids
can
do
summer
school
they're
not
required
to
not
all
kids
can
do
after
school.
We've
got
a
situation
where
what's
happening.
A
lot
now
is
kids
are
being
moved
from
their
arts
and
musics
and
those
kinds
of
things
in
order
to
double
up
on
reading
the
things
that
they
don't
do
well
at,
and
we
know
that
art
and
music
enhance
their
reading
and
gaining
math
skills.
A
A
J
Represent
Clemens
yeah
Mr,
chairman
I
was
just
going
to
inquire.
Looking
at
the
hour,
are
we
going
to
do
the
the
vaccination
calendar
today
or
how
late
are
we
intending
to
go
just
out
of
curiosity.
A
Okay,
all
right,
we'll
roll
him
a
rolled
him
a
space
and
we
will
take
up
item
number
27,
House,
Bill,
1403,
properly,
motion,
representative
Hall,
you
are
recognized.
Thank
you.
Mr.
C
Chairman
and
colleagues
House
Bill
1403
is
is
very
simple
in
nature
and
just
is
all
about
common
sense.
There's
been
religious
exemptions
from
vaccine
laws
from
the
1960s.
This
basically
just
requires
schools
to
be
totally
transparent
and
give
full
disclosure.
When
communication
goes
out
about
immunization
that
they
almost
they,
they
also
must
include
and
and
disclose
information
about
religious
exemption,
and
that
is
my
bill.
A
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
We
will
get
to
some
questions.
We
do
have
some
guests
here
that
had
requested
to
to
speak
on
the
vaccine
bills.
So
without
objection
we
will
go
out
of
session
and
invite
our
guests
up
and
if
you
would,
when
you
come
up
just
please
make
sure
to
say
your
name
and
any
affiliation
that
you
would
like
to
recognize
and
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes
before
we
open
it
up
for
questions.
A
O
Good
afternoon,
chairman
haston
and
committee
members,
thank
you
for
the
privilege
of
speaking
with
you
today.
I
am
Dr
D
sonard,
and
this
is
my
twin
sister
Dr
Barb
dentz
we're
medical
doctors
with
specialized
training
in
Pediatrics.
Both
of
us
are
fellows
in
the
American
Academy
of
Pediatrics,
and
we
are
speaking
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
the
Tennessee
chapter
of
the
American
Academy
of
Pediatrics.
O
Most
importantly,
we
are
speaking
you
to
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
Tennessee's
children,
because
each
of
the
three
vaccine
bills
that
you'll
be
considering
today
could
impact
the
health
and
safety
of
our
children.
Over
95
percent
of
Tennessee
parents
choose
to
follow
the
expert
advice
of
their
pediatricians.
Over
95
percent
of
Tennessee
parents
choose
to
have
their
children
protected
from
an
array
of
infectious
diseases
that
can
be
serious,
contagious
to
susceptible
individuals
and
even
deadly
for
some.
O
Only
a
very
small
percentage
of
Tennessee
parents
use
a
religious
exemption
to
refuse
vaccines
that
are
otherwise
required
for
school
entry.
First,
we
want
to
remind
you
of
the
importance
and
power
of
immunizations
vaccines
have
prevented
more
than
21
million
hospitalizations
and
732
000
deaths
among
children
born
between
1994
and
2013..
O
When
90
to
95
percent
of
the
community
is
vaccinated
from
a
disease,
it's
unlikely
to
spread.
This
protects
the
entire
Community,
even
those
who
are
too
young
to
be
vaccinated
and
those
who
cannot
be
vaccinated
for
medical
reasons.
Unfortunately,
we
have
seen
routine
pediatric
immunization
rates
fall
dramatically
during
the
pandemic.
Our
pediatricians
Family
Physicians
and
other
health
care
providers
have
worked
diligently
to
get
these
kids
caught
up
with
their
vaccines
in
order
to
prevent
serious
and
costly
outbreaks
of
other
non-covid
vaccine
preventable
diseases,
especially
as
in-person
classes
resume.
O
Now
more
than
ever,
we
need
to
be
encouraging
vaccination,
not
discouraging
it.
Finally,
even
though
coveted
vaccines
are
not
yet
approved
for
children,
we
are
all
counting
on
the
coveted
vaccines
to
expedite
and
end
to
the
current
pandemic,
to
enable
us
to
fully
reopen
our
economy
and
to
return
to
Everyday
activities
right
now.
We
don't
have
enough
vaccines
to
get
to
one
to
everyone
who
wants
one,
but
as
the
supply
of
these
vaccines
ramp
up,
we
will
be
facing
another
perplexing
problem.
O
O
House
Bill
1403
ensures
that
parents
are
aware
of
their
right
to
refuse
vaccination
for
their
child.
Based
on
a
religious
objection,
we
would
hope
that
house
bill
1403
is
amended,
as
the
Senate
bill
was
to
make
clear
that
the
Tennessee
Department
of
Health's
current
forms
meet
the
requirements.
In
our
view,
House
Bill
1421
in
House
Bill
1215
are
not
at
all
helpful
in
building
public
confidence
in
the
coveted
vaccines
or
in
our
routine
childhood
vaccines.
O
House
Bill
1421
points
to
a
time
when
students
would
be
forced
to
get
a
vaccine
against
the
will
of
their
parents.
We
don't
do
that
now
and
we
don't
foresee
that
ever
happening
in
the
future.
Even
if
a
licensed
Covenant
covid-19
vaccine
should
be
required
in
the
future,
parents
would
be
able
to
get
a
religious
exemption
as
they
do
for
all
approved
vaccines.
Now,
house
house,
bill
1215
requires
the
general
assembly
approval
for
the
Commissioner
of
Health
to
make
any
additions
to
the
current
schedule
of
required
School
vaccines.
O
It
is
our
understanding
that
laws
already
exist
that
provide
public
comment
periods
and
legislative
oversight
for
such
rule
changes
again.
If
the
health
commissioner
ever
did
get
approval
for
a
new
vaccine
requirement,
parents
would
still
have
an
Avenue
to
make
sure
that
their
child
would
not
be
vaccinated
against
their
will
in
Tennessee.
Religious
exemptions
are
available
for
parents
to
refuse
vaccines
for
their
own
child.
O
F
O
Not
at
all,
no,
we
are.
We
just
hope
that
the
that
this
will
be
amended
like
the
Senate
amended
it
that
the
the
current
Tennessee
Department
of
Health's
forms
would
meet
the
requirements
that
are
in
this
in
this
bill.
For
the
the
additional
the
information
chairman.
F
F
The
based
on
information
I
was
given,
which
I'm
willing
to
be
corrected
on
the
school
sends
noticed
appearance
that
your
child
must
have
the
following
things
to
enter
school,
one
of
which
is
a
list
of
vaccinations,
and
so
the
question
as
I
understand
this
bill
is:
are
you
objecting
to
the
notice
also
being
put
in
there
that
parents
can
object
on
a
religious
basis.
O
I
think
the
misunderstanding
is
that
the
health
department
Forum
has
that
information
on
it.
It
has
the
religious
exemption
information
on
it,
and
so
the
Senate
bill
says
that,
if
that
is
included
with
any
communication
from
the
schools
that
that
would
fulfill
this
requirement
is
what
the
and-
but
this
also
is
not
that
you
would
have
to
include
that
if
you
also
included
information
about
the
religious
exemption
with
your
communication.
F
You
need
to
clarify
that
for
me
just
a
bit
more
in
the
form
we're
talking
about
here,
based
on
what
you
just
said,
if
I
understood
correctly
is
or
is
not
that
form
that
you're
talking
about
that
was
added
on
in
the
sin,
is
that
sent
to
the
parents
with,
along
with
all
the
list
of
requirements
they
have
to
have
for
vaccinations
to
enter
school?
If.
O
If
it
is,
if
it
is
included,
if
that
is
included,
it's
this
amendment
says
that
it
would.
It
would
fulfill
this
requirement
because
it
has
religious
exemption
statement
on
it.
F
Still
haven't
achieved
the
clarity
that
I
need
here,
the
objection
that
that
was
raised
here,
based
on
what
the
sponsor
said,
is
that
the
notice
that
tells
parents
that
they
have
to
do
this
list
of
things
for
their
children
for
school
entry
should
have
a
notice
to
the
parents
on
the
conditions
of
which
they
must
object
and,
as
I
understood
what
you
said,
you
don't
think
that
is
the
case.
Is
that
correct?
That
should
not
be
the
case.
O
F
O
O
J
Representative
Clemons
yeah,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
I,
think
the
misunderstanding
here
is
they're
not
saying
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
they're,
not
saying
that
every
child
gets
this
they're
saying
if
a
child
gets
this,
it
satisfies
the
requirement
of
the
bill,
because
the
certificate
from
the
Department
of
Health
contains
all
the
information
that's
being
requested
by
the
sponsor
already
so
they're,
not
telling
you
am
I.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
they're,
not
saying
every
child
gets
this
they're
just
saying.
J
I
No
I
was
just
trying
to
bring
some
clarity,
Mr
chairman,
because
I
I
think
that
was
a
disconnect
and
I
know.
Sometimes
people
get
nervous
when
they
sit
there.
Yes
and
so
I
wanted
chairman
Reagan
to
be
able
to
ask
his
question
of.
Does
every
child
get
the
form
and
then
wait
for
you
to
responds
yes
or
no.
O
I
F
F
O
Yes
and
that's
what
this
bill
would
would
do
this.
The
amendment
doesn't
replace
that
language
at
all.
It
just
says
that,
if
that,
if
that
form
is
included
that
that
would
satisfy
their
requirements
here.
Thank.
A
A
O
A
Right,
we
will
be
with
the
objection
we'll
be
going
back
into
session.
A
Representative
Hall.
You
were
recognized
again
on
Hospital
1403
for
any
other
comments
before
we
open
up
some
questions
for.
C
You
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
I
I,
do
want
to
reinforce
the
fact
that
this
does
not
change
the
law
I'm,
not
trying
to
change
the
law.
This
isn't
about
whether
vaccines
are
effective
or
not
effective.
This
is
about
total
transparency.
C
A
Right,
thank
you,
chairman
watt,
you
were
recognized
so.
G
My
question
this
bill,
your
bill
passed
out
in
the
Senate
as
amended
that
the
ladies
were
talking
about
32
to
nothing.
So
why
are
you
going
to
amend
it?
Are
you
matchup
I
mean
if
it
goes
to
the
house
floor,
it's
got
to
match.
Well,.
G
L
Representative
hurt
you're
recognized,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
and
I
100
support
100
supports
your
bill.
My
question
is:
is
there
anything
in
the
legislation
that
requires
what
the
parents
receive,
because
what
I
just
heard
was
they
in
the
the
Senate?
It's
required
that
that
form
is
what
they
received
great.
C
Great
questions,
representative,
I'm,
sorry,
my
apologies,
Mr
chairman
great
question,
representative
hurt.
They
have
received
nothing
and
that's
the
purpose
of
this
bill
today.
L
C
L
But
what
what's
your
bill
is
requesting?
Is
they
receive
something
from
the
school
stating
their
relief?
And
my
question
is
I,
don't
want
to
see?
Maybe
the
parents
receive
something
that
the
font
is
small,
it's
not
clear.
It's
not
so
I'm,
actually
looking
at
it
from
the
point
of
of
stating
what
they
need
to
receive
the
form
that
the
Senate
required,
I
haven't
seen
it
so
I
can't
agree
to
that.
I
would
want
to
see
it.
L
C
Hall,
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Basically,
any
communication
that
goes
out
from
the
school
system
addressing
immunization,
also
addresses
religious
exemption.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
Mr,
chairman
I'm,
afraid
this
is
getting
wrapped
around
the
axle
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
way
this
bill
is
drafted
and
it
references
the
coding
section,
but
it
says
any
communication
provided
to
students-
you're,
not
you're,
not
seeking
just
for
clarity
here
to
provide
that
to
require
this
with
every
communication
from
the
school
to
the
parents.
You're
just
talking
about
any
communication
involving
immunizations
resident
Hall.
J
Yes,
sir
okay,
great
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
my
I
was
going
to
follow
up
on
chairman
White's
question
of
the
because
the
spirit
of
this
bill
and
your
intent
as
you
stated,
is
simply
to
make
sure
parents
know
the
law
which
is
fair
or
to
provide
that
transparency,
and
let
them
know
what
the
exemptions
are
right.
Sure.
So,
with
that,
if
the
Health
Department's
communication
is
provided
to
the
parents,
then
that
would
suffice
for
the
purposes
of
your
stated
intent
I'm.
If
not
please,
you
know.
Let
me
know
why
represent
Hall.
C
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I.
Don't
have
a
question
but
I'm
gonna
defer
back
to
you
Miss
chairman
I'm,
not
going
to
say
anything.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
the
question
I
have
that
that
if
this
bill
does
move
forward
by
the
time
this
comes
next
week
to
the
full
education
committee,
I
would
like
to
know
the
Senate's
Amendment
and
do
you
believe
it's
friendly
or
hostile
towards
your
bill,
represent
Hall
I
had
to
just
chairman.
That's
more
of
a
statement
saying
please
get
that
information
for
us
and
I'm
kind
of
hold
on
here.
I'm
kind
of
agreeing
with
representative
Clemens
is:
if
the
health
department
sends
the
notice
out,
we
need
to
know.
A
Representative
representative
carringer,
you
recognize.
B
And
I
don't
think
we
can
ever
I,
don't
want
to
say
ever,
but
I
I
never
think
that
we
should
demand
and
tell
parents
just
like
on
how
to
educate
their
children
or
that
they
have
to
be
vaccinated
and
so
I
think
the
covid
vaccine.
First
of
all,
we
don't
even
have
a
vaccine
out
there
for
for
children,
so
the
schools,
I,
don't
think,
could
really
be
able
to
send
anything
home
at
this
point,
I
took
the
vaccine.
B
You
know
the
vaccine.
I
think
is
is
a
good
thing
to
take.
But
again
that's
my
personal
decision
and
I'll
leave
everybody
else
to
make
that
personal
decision
for
their
children,
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
we're
kind
of
jumping
the
gun
on
it-
or
you
know
maybe
and
I,
am
concerned
about
what
the
Senate
may
have
passed
or
the
amendment
so
yeah.
B
You
know
I
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think
anybody
should
mandate
that
they
have
to
take
this
vaccine
and
I
think
that
should
be
left
up
to
the
parents
and
just
like
we
treat
all
of
our
other
vaccinations
to
attend
school.
So
until
there's
a
vaccine
and
I
realize
we
do
have
to
be
proactive
and
appointed
this,
because
school
will
start
back
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
Why
would
we
why?
A
A
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
go
to
item
back
to
item
26
House
Bill
1421
do
I
have
a
motion
properly.
Motioned,
representative
grills,
you
are
recognized,
I,
believe
you
have
an
amendment
and
what
is
that
drafting
code?
P
The
amendment
gives
the
religious
exemption
in
the
case
of
a
pandemic
or
an
epidemic
for
to
the
parent
to
refuse
an
immunization
you've
heard
the
explanation
for
religious
for
religious
exemption.
Excuse
me.
A
P
P
A
P
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
Ultimately,
what
this
build
is
designed
to
do
is
just
to
give
the
the
parent
the
ability
to
decide
what
goes
in
what
doesn't
go
in
there
for
the
child's
arm
restricted
with
a
to
covid-19
on
this
particular
part.
P
I'm,
not
a
I
am
a
fan
of
Parental
Choice
parents
know
what's
best
for
their
child.
Not
the
government
and
all
I
want
to
do
is
protect
the
individual
rights
for
a
family
to
decide
what
is
best
for
their
child
and
I
believe
that
decision
is
best
made
at
home
and
not
at
a
bureaucratic
position.
So
I
don't
want
to
see
schools
forcing
as
a
condition
of
enrollment
a
covid-19
vaccine
upon
them.
J
Thing
Mr,
chairman
kind
of
a
point,
order
question
to
the
chairman:
this
is
our
sole
vaccine
calendar
this
session
correct.
That
is
correct.
Are
there
any
other
pieces
of
legislation
pending
that
would
come
before
this
committee
that
require
a
student
to
take
a
vaccination.
A
There
are
some
possible
captions,
but
nothing,
that's
that's
been
that's
been
filed
or
on
notice
that
we
see
nothing's.
J
J
And
please
representative
girls,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
or
if
you
know
differently
too
and
I,
don't
think
and
as
far
as
indications
the
governor
doesn't
seem
to
be
wanting
or
have
any
desire
to
force
via
executive
order
and
do
you
do
you
know
differently
than
that
or
have
you
heard
differently.
P
I
know,
sir
I
do
not
know
different
than
that.
You
may
be
correct
or
you
may
be
wrong.
I
can't
I,
don't
know
how
I
will
tell
you
back
in
August,
when
the
president
Boyd
University
of
Tennessee
Knoxville,
decided
to
by
executive
rule,
throw
a
rule
out
as
a
condition
of
enrollment.
You
had
to
take
a
covid-19
vaccine
when
it
became
available.
P
Government
Ops,
I
believe
has
dealt
with
that
since,
but
that
thought
process
is
out
there
representative
and
because
of
that
thought
process.
This
is
where
this
bill
came
from.
So
I
wanted
to.
You
know
there
are
those
thought
processes
out
there
and
that
it's
I'm
just
this
is
preventative
maintenance,
mainly
let
you
would
not
disagree,
though,
that
we
are
best
best
suited
to
let
parents
be
in
control
of
their
child's
health
care,
and
that's
all
I'm
asking
that's
all
I'm
asking
and
I
believe.
That's
all
any
American
would
ask.
J
Yeah
just
I
appreciate
that,
and
does
this
bill
cover
higher
education
institutions
or
no
representative
girls?
No
sir,
it
doesn't
okay.
I
just
want
to
get
clarification.
Thank
you,
sir.
Any.
A
A
Brings
us
to
the
last
item
on
the
vaccine
calendar
house
bill
1215.
E
You
I
do
appreciate
the
passion
everybody
has
on
these
vaccine
bills.
It's
very
evident
what
house
bill
1215
does
there's
there's
been
an
issue.
That's
been
brought
up.
That
is
a
process
with
the
Department
of
Health.
Currently
we
have
what's
what
is
required
by
our
students
to
take
to
be
able
to
attend
our
schools.
This
bill
in
no
means
changes
any
of
that
right
there.
E
What
it
means
is
going
forward
in
the
past
the
Commissioner
of
Health
if
he
wanted-
or
she
wanted
to
add
a
new
vaccine
to
that
list
for
our
students
that
they
would
run
that
by
a
council
Health
Council
in
2008,
the
health
Council
was
taken
away.
So
now
the
commissioner
of
Health
can
make
a
ruling
that
he
wants,
and
all
he
has
to
do
is
run
it
through
govops
and
get
the
approval
to
make
that
rule
change.
E
We're
talking
something
very
serious
here:
it's
injecting
our
children
with
with
a
vaccine,
and
so
what
this
bill
does.
It
creates
a
process
for
the
Commissioner
of
Health.
He
would
go
or
he
would
go
to
the
health
Committees
of
both
the
house
and
the
Senate,
get
a
vote
and
be
able
to
pass
that
forward
and
then
bring
it
to
the
full
general
assembly
for
an
up
or
down
vote,
simple
majority
to
approve
adding
a
vaccine
to
what's
required
for
our
students.
It's
meant
not
to
be
cumbersome.
E
E
Speaking,
no,
that's
not
the
intend
to
build
just
the
ones
that
are
getting
added
in
for
our
schools.
A
A
All
right,
we
are
going
to
move
to
item
number
22
and
take
care
of
House
Bill.
777
do
I,
have
a
motion
properly
motioned,
chairman
sapicki,
you
were
recognized
on
House
Bill,
777.
E
A
All
right
properly
motioned,
you
were
recognized
on
Amendment
5558.
It
does
make
the
bill
if
you
want
to
add
it
in
all.
Right,
sounds
good:
let's
go
ahead
without
objection,
we'll
be
voting
on
adopting
Amendment
5558,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
chairman.
It's
a
picky
you're
recognized.
E
Committee,
I'm,
gonna
I,
know
it's
been
a
long
night,
I'll
be
as
brief
as
possible.
This
is
the
governor's
hold
harmless
bill
for
our
our
local
school
systems.
We
talked
about
this
last
week.
You
know
we
passed
the
two
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
the
two
percent
BEP
on
growth
that
bill
I
believe
I'm,
going
to
just
go
ahead
and
leave
that
bill
alone.
This
is
what
we
originally
intended
for
our
leas.
The
simpleness
of
this
bill
is
just
this.
What?
E
Basically,
whatever
the
Lea
received
for
the
2020-21
school
year,
they
will
receive
for
the
21
22
school
year,
and
if
there
was
growth
they
would
receive
the
the
additional
growth
funding.
It
is
only
for
the
22
21-22
school
year
and
to
make
to
be
in
compliance
with
this,
you
have
to
do
all
your
normal
reporting
to
the
state.
It
is
our
simple
whole
harmless.
We
we
would
have
passed
this
back
in
special
session.
We
didn't
get
the
clear
thumbs
up
back
then,
but
we
do
have
the
clear
thumbs
up
right
now.
E
A
All
right
before
we
do
that,
we
did
have
somebody
somebody
down
I'm,
not
for
sure
is
Mr
Randy
Frazier,
all
right.
We
will
go
out
of
session
briefly
to
hear
from
Mr,
Randy
Fraser
and
just
for
the
record,
please
state
your
name
and
who
you
represent
and
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes.
We
were
going
out
of
session.
C
Can
you
hear
me
now?
My
name
is
Randy
Frazier
I'm
superintendent
of
weekly
county
schools,
I've
been
director
of
schools
for
12
years.
I
also
serve
as
a
treasurer
of
toss
committee
and
I've
served
on
multiple
occasions
to
be
to
testify
in
front
of
the
tester
committee
concerning
the
BEP
and
heard
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
BEP,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
issues.
The
BEP
but
I
would
say,
with
a
hundred
percent
support
across
the
state
with
all
school
districts
we're
in
support
of
this
Bill.
Thank
you
to
the
sponsor.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
issues
that
covet
has
brought
before
us
as
Leaders
of
our
school
systems.
In
my
district
we
open
the
doors
to
our
children
on
August
17th.
Last
year,
we've
been
able
to
keep
our
schools
open
the
entire
year,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
children
who
decided
not
to
return
to
school.
A
lot
of
kindergarten.
Children
across
the
state
parents
were
unsure
whether
to
send
their
children
or
not.
C
They
were
not
required
to
go
because
there
were
five
and
not
six,
and
so
we
anticipate
having
a
lot
of
those
children
back
this
year.
Without
having
that
that
additional
funding,
that
will
be
an
issue
for
districts,
trying
to
fund
those
classrooms
and
and
support
those
staffs,
and
we
also
feel,
as
many
districts
have
made
accommodations
for
online
learning,
we
have
some
parents
who
have
chosen
not
to
school
their
children
period.
We
have
a
lot
of
children
in
our
state
who
are
not
doing
any
type
of
schooling
in
districts.
C
We
don't
have
the
capability
to
track
those
people
and
it's
been
taken
out
of
the
Courts
for
truancy
to
do
that,
so
we
feel
like
at
some
point
those
children
are
going
to
return
to
our
district
and
there
they've
not
been
included
in
that
number.
So
thank
you
for
sponsoring
this
bill.
We
want
to
provide
those
Services.
C
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Fraser.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
our
guest
chairman
Watt.
A
A
J
Me
representative,
Clemens
yeah
I,
just
want
to
ask
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
want
to
ask
you.
You
mentioned
truancy.
How
does
that
play
into
this
bill.
C
Well,
I
I'm
sure
that
we'll
follow
the
normal
truancy
policies.
What
we
have
found
was.
We
have
had
a
hard
time
in
tracking
our
our
students
that
didn't
return.
Normally,
when
a
student
does
return,
they've
enrolled
or
been
required
to
enrolled
somewhere
else
or
they've
been
enrolled
in
a
homeschool
setting,
and
that's
not
happened
this
year,
and
so
we
have
I
know
in
my
District
4
000.
C
J
C
I
don't
have
that
concern
because
all
districts
are
following
the
law,
we're
doing
our
very
best
to
uphold
that
law
and
I,
don't
think
anyone's
out
of
compliance
with
that
now
it's
become
more
difficult
because
we
have
become
the
the
attendance
police
and
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
support,
sometimes
with
our
courts
being
closed
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Any
other
questions
seeing
none
we'll
be
going
back
into
session.
Thank
you.
We're
back
into
session
chairman
sapi
you're
recognized
all
right.
Any
questions.
We
are
the
amendment's
already
on
the
bill,
so
we
we've
adopted
the
amendment
already
yeah
yeah.
B
A
Clarity
second
I
will
have
Pete
next
next
week.
I
will
have
pizza
here
for
you
guys,
then,
if
that
is,
if
that's
tradition,
I
want
to
stick
to
tradition
on
that.
A
Okay,
that
brings
us
to
item
number
20,
House
Bill
525
do
I,
have
a
motion.
Second,
probably
motion.
We
have
an
amendment.
A
Do
I
have
a
motion
properly
motion?
Does
it
make
the
bill?
Yes,
all
right?
Let's
go
ahead
and
vote
to
adopt
without
objection,
vote
to
adopt
54.81
all
those
federal
police
say
I
was
supposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill.
As
amended.
Amendment
is
50.
41
is
adopted.
Chairman
speaker,
you're
recognized.
E
Thank
you,
chairman,
Houston,
very
simply,
back
into
special
session,
we
promulgated
emergency
rules
for
the
hiring
of
teachers
that
was
going
to
hopefully
apply
to
the
21-22
school
year
to
give
Lea's
flexibilities
in
hiring
end
of
course,
teachers.
The
problem
was
we:
never
we
never
put
in
permanent
rules
that
would
allow
the
the
emergency
rules
to
take
effect.
The
emergency
rules
would
expire
in
July
so
to
prepare
for
the
21-22
school
year
to
maintain
the
flexibility
with
what
we
don't
know
is
coming
in
2122.
E
All
this
bill
does
is
is
to
extend
what
we
did
in
in
the
special
session
to
the
2122
school
year
on
on
flexibility
and
hiring
special
ed
is
outside
this,
that
you
still
have
to
have
the
endorsements
to
teach
special
ed.
A
You've
heard
the
explanation:
does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
on
the
bill
see
the
question's
been
called
seeing
no
objections
we'll
be
voting
on
House
Bill
525,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
aye,
I'll
supposed
to
say
no
I
just
have
it
on
to
full
education.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
21,
House
Bill
462..
Do
we
have
emotion,
second
property
motion?
Do
you
have
an
amendment
with
this
4503
Mr
chairman
properly
motion?
Does
it
make
the
that's
right?
Yes,
does
it
rewrite
the
bill?
Yes,
it
does
all
right.
A
So
without
objection
we'll
be
voting
to
adopt
Amendment
4503,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
I
was
supposed
to
say
no.
We
are
back
on
the
bill
as
amended
chairman,
so
picky
you
were
recognized.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
addressing
our
graduation
rate
and
our
remedial
course
work
for
our
colleges
for
for
our
incoming
freshmen.
The
Department
of
Education
has
been
working
hand
in
hand
with
me
on
this
to
get
us
in
a
position
on
this
bill,
we're
going
to
gather
data
over
this
next
school
year,
so
that
we
can
figure
out
exactly
what
are
the
causes
of
the
high
remedial
coursework
and
come
up
with
a
solution
for
this
committee
to
bring
forward
as
a
bill.
A
You've
heard
the
explanation:
does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor,
seeing
seeing
none
questions
been
called?
We
will
be
without
objection,
we'll
be
voting
on
House,
Bill
462.,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
I
was
opposed,
say
no
eyes.
Have
it
on
to
full
Education
Without
objection.
We
will
roll
the
rest
of
this
calendar
into
next
week's
calendar.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
granted
We
Stand
adjourned.