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House Higher Education Subcommittee - March 30, 2021 - House Hearing Room 3
A
B
C
A
Thank
you
for
that
chairman
dixie.
We're
just
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
coming
and
going
on
this
committee,
so
we
got
to
make
sure
we
keep
a
quorum
as
we
move
forward
we're
going
to
get
right
into
this.
We
got
a
full
calendar
here.
I
know
we
got
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
present
here
we're
just
going
to
go
through
the
bill
and
bear
with
us.
If
you
would
house
bill
479
by
leader,
lamberth
is
now
off
notice.
A
B
B
A
B
A
You've
heard
the
motion
by
the
chairman:
is
there
a
motion
on
that
to
remove
section
one?
Second,
second,
thank
you
very
much,
don't
be
afraid
to
speak
up
it's
okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
removing
section
one
of
this
bill
and,
leaving
section
two
say:
aye
opposed.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
as
amended,
this
bill
simply
says
that
if
the
state
textbook
commission
does
not
recommend
cte
textbooks
or
any
other
instructional
material
in
any
given
school
year,
that
the
lea
will
have
the
permission
to
use
those
unused
funds
to
purchase
technology,
that's
what
the
bill
does.
A
Committee,
you
have
heard
the
amended
bill
and
the
language
on.
Is
there
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
one?
Seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill
795
to
full
education
committee,
say
aye
opposed
no
you're
on
the
full
committee.
Sir.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
we'll
roll
all
those
bills.
All
those
amendments
together.
A
E
You
could
indulge
me
for
a
moment.
The
tca
this
this
bill
deals
with
charter
amendments
or
charter
schools
and
charter
enforcement.
A
public
charter
school
should
be
accountable
to
the
authorizer
to
the
lea
for
the
purpose
of
ensuring
compliance
with
the
charter
agreement
and
the
requirements
of
this
chapter.
Authorizers
shall
enforce
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
this
chapter
when,
when
a
charter
school
is
out
of
compliance,
leas
have
one
opportunity
to
bring
them
into
well,
they
have
two:
they
can
ask
them
nicely
to
come
into
compliance
or
they
can
revoke
their
charter.
E
That's
it.
They
have
no
enforceable
actions
that
can
bring
the
charter
into
compliance.
Shelby
county
has
a
lot
of
shelby
county
school
districts.
Have
a
lot
of
issues
with
this
they've
got
over.
Let's
see,
there's
dealing
with
esl
violations.
They've
got
40
problems,
the
40
examples
of
their
charters,
not
being
in
compliance.
E
This
bill
had
sought
to
remedy
that
situation
by
putting
penalties
in
there
a
little
bit
more
tangible
nature
to
where
somebody
has
to
come
to
the
table
and
improve
their
school.
Unfortunately,
we've
had
some
issues
with
working
some
items
out
with
stakeholders.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is,
with
your
permission,
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
take
this
bill
off
notice
with
the
assurance
that
you'll
see
it
back
next
next
winter
to
try
to
get
to
where
we
can
bring
some
of
these
rogue
charters
into
compliance.
A
A
Next
up
is
house
bill
1570
by
cochran,
we'll
roll
that
one
to
the
hill.
From
what
I
understand
house
bill,
15
48
is
off
notice,
no
he's
going
to
present
it.
Okay,
that's
by
representative
cochran,
we'll
roll
that
to
the
heel
house,
bill
1513
by
cochran,
we'll
roll
it
a
hill.
A
F
A
To
add
that
to
the
bill?
Second,
let's,
let's
put
it
on
the
bill
for
you,
mr
representative,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
opposed
amendment.
5792
is
on
the
bill.
You
have
the
floor.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
put
the
amendment
on
there,
so
everybody
would
know
we're
not
actually
talking
about
the
baker
center
at
ut,
but
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
retention
legislation
which
we
passed
in
the
special
session,
and
what
we
were
attempting
to
do
here
with
this
amendment
is
to
just
tweak
that
a
little
bit
house
bill
1077.
F
It
would
offer
more
data
points
specific
to
reading
when
we're
making
those
retention
decisions.
It
also
recognizes
there
are
other
forms
of
reading
disorder
that
could
impact
a
student's
ability.
Aside
from
just
dyslexia,
however,
realized
that
was
large
and
comprehensive
legislation
that
we
did
pass
in
special
session.
These
are
complex
issues
and,
as
I
understand
there
is
a
will
to
put
a
lot
of
these
issues
together
and
look
at
them
over
the
summer.
A
A
A
A
Next
up
is
house
bill
1460
by
representative
hakeem.
I
have
a
motion.
A
A
We
have
an
untimely
filed
amendment
here
committee
motion
to
consider:
is
there
a
second?
We
have
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
considering
amendment
4805,
say
aye
opposed.
A
We
will
add
that
to
the
bill.
Yes,
sir,
let's,
let's
put
it
on
the
bill,
so
we
get
us
in
the
proper
position.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
add
this
bill
to
the
this
amendment
to
the
bill
for
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
adding
48.05.
A
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
What
this
bill
does
is
direct
state
education
officials
to
establish
a
year-long
age-appropriate
black
history
and
cultural
curriculum,
primarily
for
students
in
grades
fifth,
through
fifth
and
eighth
grades.
B
G
A
This
amendment
that
we're
adding
was
the
one
that
the
senate
added.
I
believe
yes
in
a
more
softer
position.
Yes,
sir,
with
the
leas,
are
there
any
questions
for
the
bell
sponsor,
as
the
bill
is
amended.
A
A
We
will
roll
this
one
to
the
heel
of
the
calendar
house
bill
1559
by
chairman
mitchell,
chairman
representative
mitchell.
You
are
recognized,
sir.
H
Yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
my
annual
ethics
bill.
It's
a
very
simple
bill.
It
just
has
to
do
with
the
voucher
program
in
tennessee
and.
H
H
But
when
we
passed
the
voucher
legislation
in
the
general
assembly,
it
was
open
for
more
than
45
minutes
and
that
was
to
have
a
little
extracurricular
activity
out
on
the
balcony
of
the
state
capitol.
A
A
A
A
We're
going
to
go
back
representative
cochran
has
decided
to
join
us
today,
house
bill
1570
by
representative
cochran.
Do
I
have
a
motion?
Second,
you
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
Do
you
have
an
amendment.
I
A
What
I
have
zero
zero
five
seven
eight
committee:
does
it
make
the
bill?
Yes,
sir?
Yes,
it
does
motion
on
the
mm.
Is
there
a
second
there's
a
second,
let's
put
this
on
the
bill
to
get
it
in
the
proper
position.
All
those
in
favor
of
adding
amendment
5778
to
the
bill
say:
aye
opposed
no
you're
in
a
proper
position,
sir.
Go
ahead.
Thank.
I
You,
mr
chairman,
and
essentially
what
this
bill
does
is
before
the
commission
of
education
changes
any
part
of
the
formula
used
to
calculate
school
or
lea
performance
goals
that
has
to
be
approved
through
the
state
board
of
education
and
through
a
working
group,
and
that's
kind
of
lined
out
in
the
in
the
bill
who
those
representatives
are
in
that
working
group.
I
A
I
Will
make
that
motion
that
the
the
verbiage
that
you
just
laid
out
there
that
we
add
that
to
subsection
b,
section
seven
there?
Thank
you.
A
And
just
to
expand
real
quickly
to
make
sure
that
we
have
representation
from
all
different
kinds
of
districts
in
tennessee,
one
urban
teacher,
one
suburban
teacher
and
one
rural
teacher
to
be
able
to
be
on
this
committee.
That's
the
that's
the
motion
that
representative
cochran
is
making
chairman
dixie
when
we
get
done.
Okay,
let's
add
this
verbal
amendment
on
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
no
you're
in
the
proper
position
hold
on
one.
Second,
chairman
dicks,
you
have
a
question.
C
Yes,
representative
cochran,
I
just
had
a
quick
question:
what
is
the
current
process
of
that's
in
place
now.
I
Sure-
and
I
believe
that
that
current
process
is
driven
more
by
the
department
of
education
without
the
again
this
puts
in
a
little
bit
more
stakeholder
input.
This
is
a
bill
that
really,
I
believe,
made
it
all
the
way
to
the
house
floor
last
year
and
then,
as
so
many
bills
did
kind
of
died
as
a
result
of
covid,
but
right
now
there's
a
little
bit
more
there's
more
authority
vested
or
that
rests
with
the
department
of
education.
I
This
puts
it
with
the
state
board
of
education,
and
then
it
also
like
say
puts
in
that
working
group
that
works
with
the
with
the
commissioner
and
the
department
to
to
determine
any
type
of
changes
there.
Any
type
of
substantive
changes.
I
A
A
Next
up
representative
cochran
house
bill
1548,
sir.
A
I
A
Motion
motion
in
a
second:
let's
put
this
on
the
bill:
everybody
all
those
in
favor
of
adding
zero,
zero,
six
zero
five
one
to
the
bill
say
aye
aye
opposed!
No!
Is
that
all
for
the
amendments?
Yes,
sir
you're
in
a
proper
position.
Tell
us
about
your
bill.
Thank.
I
You,
mr
chairman,
you
all
have
gotten
to
see
a
lot
of
me
today
and
for
that
I
apologize
I'll
make
this
brief.
This
is
the
textbook
transparency
act.
I
I
want
to
thank
chair,
lady
weaver,
for
working
with
me
on
this
one
and
she
and
I
have
worked
on
similar
issues
but
but
give
you
the
the
short
story.
I
You
know
I
didn't
feel
like
there
was
an
easy,
an
accessible
place
for
approved
textbooks
and
those
waivered
textbooks
for
the
public
to
to
get
eyes
on
those,
and
so
what
the
current
law
says
is
during
the
during
the
adoption
period.
So
there's
a
90-day
adoption
period
while
the
while
the
textbook
adoption
commission
is
considering
materials
right
now,
loss
the
current
law
states
that
those
materials
have
to
be
available
in
full
online
for
that
90-day
period.
I
I
I
mentioned
in
this
in
this
legislation
several
times
the
the
state
textbook
depository,
which
I'll
be
honest
with
you
is
a
resource
that
I
did
not
know
a
lot
about
before
drafting
this
legislation,
but
they
are
a.
They
really
have
a
wealth
of
information,
and
so
you,
throughout
this
bill,
a
an
lea
and
the
state
can
be
in
compliance
if
they
simply
link
to
that
textbook
depository
website,
which
already
has
a
lot
of
this
material.
I
A
You've
heard
the
explanation
on
the
bill
as
amended.
Is
there
any
questions
for
representative
cochran
upon
hearing
none?
Are
they
ready
to
vote
without
objection?
All
those
in
favor
of
sending
house
bill
1513
to
the
full
head,
as
amended,
say:
aye
opposed
no
you're
on
the
full
head.
Sir.
Thank
you
chairman.
A
We're
gonna
go
back
in
time
and
we're
gonna
call
up
representative
chisholm
on
house
bill
zero.
Four,
two:
nine:
that
a
motion
motion
and
a
second.
Let
me
get
there
real,
quick.
J
A
J
Thank
you
chairman
in
committee.
I
brought
to
you
house,
bill
429
and
what
this
bill
does.
It
creates
a
five-member
oversight
committee
to
survey
and
inventory
educational
programs
and
materials
being
used
to
teach
american
history
in
public
schools
and
created
directive
consultants
who
can
share
their
knowledge
of
the
role
of
african
americans,
have
played
in
american
history.
It
requires
members
of
the
community
to
serve
without
compensation,
but
authorize
reimbursement
for
travel.
J
A
A
A
I
would
urge
you
and
to
work
with
this
committee
to
help
when
you
standards
review,
come
up
to
go
ahead
and
work
on
that
to
create
maybe
some
changes
to
the
black
history
in
the
curriculum
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
teaching
the
black
history
that
we
want
to
make
sure
our
children
understand
committee.
I
would.
I
would
urge
to
make
a
motion
to
send
this
to
general
general
sub,
so
I
have
a
motion
to
send
it
to
general
sub.
B
A
A
Next
up
is
well
he's
got
another
member.
A
Next
up
is
going
to
be
house
bill,
zero,
eight,
zero,
zero
by
representative
griffey.
I
have
a
motion
motion
in
a
second
representative
griffey
hold
on.
Let
me
catch
up
to
you
800.
It's
item
number
14.
K
A
K
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee.
What
this
bill
seeks
to
do
is
to
limit
the
education
regarding
sex
and
other
social,
controversial
social
issues
in
schools
to
abstinence,
sexual
disease,
prevention
and
pregnancy,
teen,
pregnancy,
prevention,
when
it
comes
to
sexual
matters
or
other
controversial
lifestyle
choices,
and
the
reason
I
do
that
is
you'll.
Forgive
me,
but
I
don't
want
the
state
of
tennessee
teaching
my
daughters
about
sex
and
lifestyle
changes,
and
I
think
that
that
view
is
probably
shared
by
a
number
of
parents
throughout
the
state
of
tennessee.
K
I
am
not.
The
state
tennessee
is
not
allowed
to
teach
my
daughters,
christian
values
that
I
think
are
important
and
they
should
learn
so
I
teach
those
at
home,
and
so,
if
I,
if
those
are
not
a
part
of
the
school
curriculum,
I
don't
see
how
lgbtq
and
other
issues
and
social
lifestyles
should
be
a
part
of
the
curriculum.
A
B
C
A
A
Committee
representative,
griffey
you're
on
full
end.
Yes,
sir.
A
Second,
okay,
representative
hicks,
you
are
in
the
proper
position.
Is
it
I
don't
see
an
amendment?
Is
there
amendment
on
this?
No!
No,
sir,
okay.
L
L
Introducing
cte
and
middle
school
provides
a
strong
foundation
for
success
for
future
work.
Research
shows
that
students
who
concentrate
in
a
cte
area
in
high
school
are
more
likely
to
be
employed
and
have
a
higher
earning
than
students
who
did
not
pursue
a
cte
program.
A
lot
of
students
learn
from
curiosity
and
persistence.
L
L
Graduation
rates
and
post-secondary
success,
making
making
sure
students
are
exposed
to
more
cte
courses
and
opportunities
in
middle
school
will
help
them
identify
careers
that
best
fits
their
interest
and
their
aptitudes
also
house
bill.
1446
improves
gender,
racial
and
rural
equity
and
diversity,
because
all
tennessee
students
deserve
the
opportunity
to
explore
their
careers
and
interests
through
their
high
school
coursework,
including
cte
opportunities.
A
A
A
G
You
thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
members.
It's
an
honor
to
serve
in
the
education
committee
since
I've
been
here
since
2000,
gee
2009
I've
served
on
education,
except
for
one
term.
When
I
went
to
criminal
justice.
G
Those
of
us
who
serve
on
this
committee
are
dedicated
and
it
is
the
workhorse
committee
because
we
really
care
about
our
kids,
and
so
this
piece
of
legislation
cares
about.
What's
before
our
kids,
the
content
that
our
children
are
reading,
we
have
really
had
a
focus
razor,
a
radar
actually
on
laser.
Excuse
me
on
textbooks
and
what
our
kids
are
reading.
G
G
The
spirit
of
this
bill
is
to
in
the
mission
is
again
content
because
it's
critical
society
pays
dearly
when
we
have
garbage
in
front
of
our
kids
and
it
does
take
bravery.
It
does
take
courage
that
to
protect
our
children
and
we
we
take
moral
courage
to
protect
our
children
when
it
comes
to
policy
and
that's
another
reason
why
I
like
to
serve
on
this
committee.
G
So
with
that
being
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
supplemental
materials
out
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
bad
stuff
out
there,
and
we
don't
want
our
children
reading
this.
So
what
we've
done
is.
I
have
actually
looked
into
my
district
and
I
made
a
phone
call
to
a
individual
that
pretty
much
he's
kind
of
like
I
don't
remember
the
name
but
he's
not
like
a
police,
a
supplemental
police
guy,
but
he's
over
instructional
material
and
basically
has
a
set
of
eyes
and
when
a
teacher
has
a
question
about
supplemental
material.
G
Brings
it
to
this
to
this
point
and
they
and
the
instructional
mr
towns,
and
he
gives
a
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down,
and
it's
been
working
for
them.
It's
locally
driven
it's
locally
controlled.
If
a
teacher
sees
something
she's
questionable
about,
if
it's
approved
or
not,
then
she
brings
it
to
the
principal
and
gets
basically
a
shield
of
protection
from
the
principal.
G
G
First
of
all,
and
also
this
bill
also
points
out
again,
I
want
to
say
in
no
way
does
it
does.
The
spirit
of
this
bill
appear
to
be
clumsy
to
a
teacher
again,
I
don't
want
to
put
handcuffs
on
our
teachers.
I
want
them
to
do
what
they
love
to
do
and
that's
be
creative
and
teach
our
children.
So
I
don't
want
to
use
this
as
a
clumsy
process.
G
G
A
Committee
you've
heard
the
sponsor's
presentation
are
any
questions
for
representative
weaver
representative
mckenzie.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
representative
weaver.
In
terms
of
I
I
I
agree
with
everything
that
you
said,
but,
as
I
read
this,
it's
it's
all
about
common
core.
M
If
I'm
looking
at,
if
I'm
looking
at
the
the
amendment
and
maybe
I'm
on
the
wrong
bill,
but
I
don't
think
I
am,
I
mean
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
supplemental
materials,
but
I
I
guess
my
question
is:
are
there
they
the
only
ones,
putting
out
bad
material.
M
Thank
you,
and,
and
again
I
I
guess,
I'm
a
bit
confused.
I
I
don't
you
know
again
that
I
wasn't
that
wasn't
during
the
time
that
I
was
serving
in
the
assembly,
but,
like
I
said,
like
I
said
earlier,
all
the
things
that
you
were
saying
I
I
was
resonating
with
in
terms
of
bad
material.
I
guess
my
question
to
you,
but,
as
I
read
this
common
core
is
the
only
thing
that
you're
necessarily
going
after.
M
I
guess
my
question
would
be
more
so
for
mr
towns
or
someone
at
a
school
at
a
school
building
level
or
district
or
lea
level.
Wouldn't
it
just
be
better
to
to
to
have
them
vet
the
supplemental
materials
for
bad
content,
not
necessarily
all
common
core.
I'm
not
saying
whether
you
know
I
get
the
assembly
is
deemed
common
core
bad,
but
I
don't
think
they
have
cornered
the
market
on
on
bad.
So
this
this,
this
piece
of
legislation
seems
to
be
targeted
and
and
and
limited.
A
G
G
There
was
there's,
sometimes
there's
books
or
novels
that
are
incorporated
in
supplemental
reading
and
they're,
not
parental
approved
parents,
don't
like
it.
So
they
don't
want
their
child
to
read
that,
and
so
they
bring
it
to
the
principal
and
they
actually
can
get
a
a
pass
and
say:
look
if
you're,
if
you
don't
want
your
child
reading
it.
That's
fine
and
they're
held
harmless
on
that,
so
this
bill
would
have
to
again
it
have
to
be
approved
by
the
local
lease,
the
principal
or
the
local
school
board,
and
if
there
is.
G
A
A
Necessarily
common
core
to
exclude
that,
but
anything
that
doesn't
align
to
our
tennessee
standards
would
be
excluded
from
being
taught
in
our
in
our
schools
as
supplemental
material,
correct,
that's
correct
and
then
what
you're
going
to
do
is
you're
going
to
use
this
bill
to
create
a
database
for
the
lea,
so
that
when
teachers
need
to
have
something
as
supplemental
material
to
be
able
to
draw
from,
they
can
already
go
to
the
website
of
the
lea
and
pull
that
information
off.
That's
already
been
scrubbed
to
make
sure
it
aligns
to
our
standards.
A
So
we
don't
get
those
worksheets
sent
home
that
don't
align
to
our
standards.
A
A
Second
motion:
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
on
to
consider.
Is
it
zero
zero?
Six?
Two,
five,
nine!
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
go
ahead
and
vote
to
see
if
we're
going
to
consider
this
to
be
added
to
the
bill,
all
those
and
say
aye
opposed.
No,
we
will
consider
this
need
a
motion
to
add
zero
zero.
Six,
two
five
nine
to
be
considered
now,
let's
add
it
to
the
bill
and
get
it
in
the
proper
position.
Does
this
make
the
bill?
Yes,
it
does.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Work
us
through
it
and
get
us
so
we
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do
here
well
bear
with
me.
We
only
do
have
10
minutes.
Okay,.
D
Well,
my
my
county
and
many
and
many
other
counties
across
the
state.
We're
really
battling
excessive
growth,
rapid
growth.
If
you
will
my
county-
and
I
know
many
others
can't
continue
to
build
schools
at
the
rate
that
we're
building
we
just
finished
a
72
million
dollar
high
school.
The
next
projected
high
school
is
going
to
be
108
million
dollars.
D
My
county
commission,
my
school
board,
they're
constantly
asking
for
relief
up
here,
they're
always
asking
for
help.
I
think
this
is
a
tool
in
the
toolbox.
If
you
will
chairman
it's
one
tool,
it
would
offer
a
relief
valve,
so
we
don't
have
to
continue
to
build
schools
at
the
rate
that
we're
building
my
county
taxpayers
are
asking
for
relief,
and
you
know
the
growth
that
we're
facing
in
rutherford,
county
williamson
county
other
counties
across
this
state.
D
Our
forefathers,
I
would
argue,
were
a
lot
more
physically
conservative
than
many
of
of
leaders
that
I
see
today,
not
specifically
you,
gentlemen,
here
before
us,
but
I
look
back
at
my
world
war
ii,
father
and
others
that
were
mentors
for
me.
Those
men
stood
firm
and
they
stood
firm
when
it
come
to
cost
and
they
kind
of
held
they
kind
of
held
the
ground.
If
you
will
to
to
be
responsible
when
it
comes
to
spending,
but
this
bill
really
would
put
money
back
into
the
system.
D
Our
capital
projects,
I
mean
we're
we're
at
close
to
almost
a
half
a
billion
dollars
in
capital
projects
to
try
to
to
keep
up
the
maintenance
on
these
schools
are
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
they're
asking
for
relief.
You
all
have
heard
it
even
in
slow,
growing
counties.
You've
you've
heard
for
relief.
D
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
didn't
hear
you
say
it
so
you're
you're
saying
that
we
use
public
dollars
to
go
to
private
schools.
D
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
I
guess
I'm
I'm
going
to
slightly
disagree
with
you
in
that
post-world
war
ii.
There
was
a
great
generation
that
you
know
we
were
called
baby
boomers,
yes,
sir,
and
they
would
call
that
for
a
reason
and
that
the
the
amount
of
children
that
that
we
had
what
they
had
at
that
time
getting
into
public
education
from
a
percentage
standpoint.
M
You
know
it
it
it
outpaced,
tennessee
by
by
leaps
and
bounds,
and
they
did
it
conservatively,
but
they
provided
the
brick
and
mortar
and
whatever
it
took
to
get
those
their
children
educated.
So
this
this
just
seems
out
of
place.
I
I
you
know,
I
look
at
the
numbers
and
I
just
don't
see
you
know
if
people
are
moving
in
they're
they're,
moving
into
buildings,
houses,
apartments
and
they're,
paying
their
property
taxes
and
sales
taxes.
M
And
we
should,
you
know
you
have
prognosticators
and
forecasters
that
project
populations
and-
and
they
should
plan
accordingly-
and
it
sounds
like
you
all
are
I
just
don't
see
why
we
should
be
giving
private
schools
monies
and
shirk
our
responsibility,
and
that
is
our
responsibilities,
public
education
to
to
give
these
private
schools
dollars.
M
D
Yes,
well
I'll
argue
we've
and
we
can
get
into
affordable
housing.
That's
a
whole
other
topic,
but
my
county.
If
you
go
study,
I
just
seen
a
house
list
of
today:
320
000,
my
son
had
almost
the
same
home.
Six
years
ago,
we
sold
it
for
140..
I
bought
my
first
home
at
22
for
60
000.,
a
young
man
today
or
a
young
couple
can't
even
purchase
a
home.
That's
a
whole
nother
crisis
right
there.
So
all
the
growth
that
we're
facing
in
these
fast
growing
counties
really
isn't
that
much
of
a
blessing.
D
D
Rockville
high
school
was
71.6
million
rocky
fork,
elementary
36.6
million
smyrna
laverne
high
school
football
stadium's,
3
million
smyrna
middle
school
west
at
rutherford
county
49
million
addition
at
rock
springs:
11.4
million
auditioned
at
rockville,
11.4
million
elementary
school
rutherford
county's,
40.4
million
another
middle
school
rutherford
county
north
45.2
million,
dishing
it
laverne
middle
17.7
million
addition
at
roy
waldron,
12.2
million
elementary
school
west
rutherford
county
45.1
million
middle
school
in
south
rutherford
county
45.3
million
elementary
school
would
yet
to
be
determined
at
the
location,
45.1
million
and
the
latest
projected
high
school
folks
is
108
million
dollars,
108
million.
D
I
mean
this.
If
anybody
says
this
is
sustainable,
it's
unsustainable
folks
and
we
I'm
going
to
argue.
We
got
a
crisis
now
this
bill.
My
senator
wants
wanted
me
to
carry
it
first,
because
it
could
be
deemed
controversial.
A
lot
of
people
don't
like
controversy,
but
when
you're
in
a
crisis,
you've
got
controversy
controversy
before
you.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do?
D
If
it's
okay
with
the
chairman
pending
any
other
questions,
is,
is
if
we
could
get
this
to
full
committee
for
more
discussion,
and
I
have
somebody
that
will
come
up
and
and
testify
and
after
the
full
committee
I
would
move
to
summer
study
with
the
commission.
The
commission
chairman's
approval.
A
Hearing
that
request
we've
tried
not
to
operate
that
way.
In
this
committee,
we've
tried
to
make
sure
we
get
bills
in
the
best
position
before
they
go
to
full
committee,
so
we
try
to
eliminate
as
much
discussion
and
changes
as
there
are.
This
is
a
major
change
to
the
bill
that
you
had
on
an
untimely
filed.
Amendment
yes
represent
mckenzie.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I'm
for
that
reason,
and
I
I
do
think
the
sponsor
made
my
point
beautifully
in
that
the
prices
of
homes
and
the
prices
and
the
taxes
that
that
are
recouped
from
going
from
sixty
thousand
to
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
is,
is
able
to
do
that.
So
I
I
really
like
to
make
a
motion
to
send
this
to
to
jensup.
Okay,.
A
F
A
B
A
You,
madam
chairman
members
house,
bill
1516,
is
a
bill
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
process
in
place
that
is
lacking
right
now,
with
the
department
of
education
in
relationship
to
the
department,
the
commissioner
of
education,
invoking
her
rights
or
their
rights
to
take
over
a
school
or
school
system
or
remove
a
superintendent
or
board
members.
A
The
process
is
very,
is
very
vague
and
what
1516
does
is
it
puts
parameters
in
place
that
make
sure
that
the
commissioner
of
education
has
to
follow
certain
protocols
in
the
event
of
a
school
system
gets
in
a
position
that
is
underperforming
not
only
currently
but
historically,
and
not
only
academically
but
operationally,
and
so
what
1516
does
it
sets
forth?
A
a
structure
such
as
before
the
commissioner
of
education
can
act
to
move
on
a
school
system
or
a
superintendent
or
a
school
board.
A
They
have
to
create
a
turnaround
plan
and
that
turnaround
plan
has
to
be
worked
on
by
the
lea
and
has
to
be
worked
on
by
the
super,
the
director
of
schools
and
the
commissioner
of
education
to
make
sure
that
they're
trying
to
get
that
school
turned
around
with
the
maximum
amount
of
help
needed
to
make
that
happen
after
a
certain
amount
of
time.
If
that
does
not
happen
at
the
discretion
of
the
of
the
commissioner,
then
benchmarks
not
only
actively
currently
academically
and
operationally
currently
and
historically
come
into
play.
A
So
there
are
hurdles
that
the
department
has
to
overcome
and
able
to
invoke
any
type
of
removal
of
a
superintendent,
a
school
board
or
a
takeover
of
a
district
or
a
school
trying
to
put
some
more
safeguards
in
there
to
make
sure
that
if
and
when
it
reaches
the
point
that
the
state
has
to
look
into
doing
this,
that
there
is
quantifiable
data
before
us
that
gives
the
commissioner
the
authority
to
do
what
they're
going
to
do.
That
was
a
brief
explanation.
I'll
try
to
answer
questions.
If
there's
any
and
that's
it.
Madam
chairman.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
you
moved
on
man.
I
see
your
purse
there,
but
sorry
confusion.
Thank
you.
So
you
know,
as
as
as
we
look
at
this
bill,
there's
there's
a
lot
to
it.
Are
you
saying
that
we
should.
M
Take
away
the
community's
right
to
elect
a
school
board
member
every
four
years
and
give
it
to
a
don't
there's
no
disrespect
to
the
present
commissioner,
but
to
a
bureaucrat
is:
is
that
what
you're
saying
and
why
why
why?
Why
would
that
make
sense?
Well,.
M
A
You
we're
not
plowing
any
new
ground
with
this
representative
mckenzie.
This
already
exists
in
code
that
gives
the
commissioner
to
do
this.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
strengthen
that
to
make
sure
that
there
are
benchmarks
and
hurdles
that
have
to
be
overcome.
First
before
that
that
is
used
at
the
local
level.
A
That
should
be
the
nuclear
option,
so
to
speak,
but
right
now
it's
very
vague
and
and
and
ambiguous
as
to
what
has
to
actually
take
place
and
the
thresholds
there
are
not
as
high
as
the
ones
that
we'd
be
putting
in
place
right
here.
M
Thank
you,
you
know,
and
and
and
I
think
it's
vague,
because
it
is
the
nuclear
option
right
and
and
and
it
should
only
be
used
in
in
beyond
dire.
So
you
know
in
section
two
there's
language
in
there
that
that
talks
about
the
fact
that
the
commissioner
can
at
any
time
determine
that
if
an
lea
has
historically
not
met
performance
goals
or
measures
and
not
met
the
responsibilities
to
one
or
more
of
these
priority
schools,
then
the
department
can
assume
all
powers
of
governance.
M
Is
there
a
statue
of
limitation
on
what
historically
mean,
because
you
know
I
I
I
proudly
represent
a
school
that
was
on
during
president
bush's
time.
The
no
child
left
behind
you
know
got
on
that
and
they
got
off
of
the
priority
school
list
and
we're
proud
of
that.
But
if,
if,
if
you
have
a
sliding
scale
of
what
historical
mean,
then
then
you're
you're
in
a
an
endless
do
loop,
so
is:
is
there
a
statute
of
limitation
on
what
that
historically
means?
Yes,
sir
there's
karen.
A
I'm
sorry
I'm
used
to
being
chairman.
Sorry,
there
is
data
already
in
place
and
parameters
that
dictate
what
a
priority
school
is,
how
long
they
have
to
go
priority
districts.
What
we're
extrapolating
that
is
enable
to
make
a
decision
of
this
nature
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
a
histo
historical
data.
How
many
years
have
they
been
a
priority
school?
We
know
that
most
schools
have
three
years
to
turn
around
that
priority
status.
So
there's
one
benchmark,
you
had
other
benchmarks
with
operationals.
A
M
Thank
you,
you
know,
and
also
as
as
we
consider,
the
the
whole
you
know,
I
see
a
representative's
going,
that's
going
to
get
mad
at
me,
but
I'm
going
to
throw
this
term
out
because
they
everyone
knows
it
and
probably
alone.
There
is
no
such
thing
as
learning
loss.
I
would
say
that
you,
don't
you,
don't
forget
how
to
ride
a
bike,
but
you
know
the
impacts
of
covert
19
on
our
students,
especially
those
in
our
under
resourced
and
community.
This
this
this.
This
is
this,
this
legislation
at
this
time.
M
Okay,
now
let
me
be
clear
about
this
legislation
at
this
time
seems
to
be.
You
know:
he'll
conceive
to
grant
takeover
powers
when
we're
just
trying
to
get
back
to
normal
when
we
just
had
an
extraordinary
session,
where
we
put
some
some
some
strong
measures
in
place
that
we've
not
even
taken
one
bit
of
data
with
how
those
are
going
to
do
so.
M
To
put
this
to
put
this
piece
of
legislation
before
us,
when
there's
nothing
really
from
you
know,
we
have
to
admit
for
the
last
year
we're
right
at
a
year,
it's
been
extremely
difficult.
So
back
to
the
historical
point:
where
are
you
going
to
start
your
measurement
from
where
you're
going
to
take
it
to
too?
A
You
once
again,
these
these
parameters
exist
in
a
more
loose
fashion
already
with
the
department,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
confused
here
of
why
you're
arguing
against
a
bill
that
permit
that
puts
more
safeguards
in
place
for
an
lea
to
prevent
to
prevent
the
department
from
coming
down
and
take
him
over.
It
seems
like
you're
arguing
the
other
point
that
you
want
less
restrictions
to,
allow
it
to
happen
easier
because
by
supporting
this
bill,
you're
putting
more
benchmarks
in
place
to
protect
an
lea
from
an
arbitrary
decision
by
the
commissioner.
A
Also,
you
know
you
ask
when
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
we
don't.
We
have
to
act
on
behalf
of
a
million
students
in
tennessee.
We
we
have
a
you
all
know.
You
all
know
the
numbers,
37
literacy
rate
in
third
grade
28
percent.
In
eighth
grade.
We
have
the
highest
graduation
rate
in
the
history
of
tennessee,
and
we
also
have
the
highest
remedial
coursework
in
our
colleges
and
university.
A
A
E
The
sponsor,
if
I've
heard
you
correctly,
what
you're
saying
essentially
is
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
not
working
and
you're
proposing
a
change
so
for
the
benefit
of
a
brief
summary.
Does.
A
What
this
does
is
it
keeps
the
process
in
place
is
what
we
normally
have,
but
it
creates
benchmarks
and
a
higher
level
of
of
scrutiny
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
get
to
this,
this
decision
of
taking
over
a
school
system,
which
is
very
very
serious,
this
is
not
new
in
our
country.
This
happens
all
over
the
united
states,
where
states
come
in
and
take
over
school
systems
that
are
that
are
traditionally
and
historically
failing
our
students.
A
I'm
here
arguing
for
the
students,
folks,
the
students
that
are
that
are
trapped
in
failing
school
systems.
Most
most
of
our
school
systems
are
doing
the
best
they
can.
We
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
better,
but
there
are
districts
out
there
that
are
failing
these
kids
year
after
year
after
year,
and
we've
got
to
address
that
need
moving
forward.
B
B
A
Committee,
thank
you
thank
you
for
hanging
with
us
today
and
getting
through
this
calendar.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
this
committee.
Look
forward
to
seeing
you
at
the
full
committee.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
tennessee
and
its
students
at
this
time.
We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
this
committee
at
the
call
of
duty.