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From YouTube: House - Higher Education Subcommittee - March 2, 2021
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House Higher Education Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
All
right
good
afternoon,
everybody
welcome
back
to
this
week's
edition
of
higher
education.
Administration
subcommittee
today
is
march,
the
2nd
2021
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
to
order.
A
A
Thank
you
before
we
begin.
Does
anyone
have
any
personal
orders
they'd
like
to
address
all
right,
seeing
none?
Let's
move
on
to
some
housekeeping.
We've
got
eight
bills
on
the
calendar.
Today,
chairman
ramsey
has
taken
hb
240
off
of
notice.
That's
number
two
on
the
calendar.
A
We've
got
a
quick
announcement
about
lottery
bills
and
a
lottery
calendar.
All
bills
referred
to
higher
education
subcommittee
that
expend
lottery
fund
dollars
will
be
rolled
to
the
lottery
calendar
to
be
considered
at
a
later
date.
Members
should
have
been
notified
of
bills
on
this
calendar
and
we
will
make
every
effort
to
do
so
going
forward.
A
C
A
C
A
Okay,
oh
well,
let's
get
underway.
Let's
start
with
chairman
reagan,
house
bill
number
576
do
I
have
motion
on
the
bill
and
a
second.
A
Second,
on
the
bill,
oh
and
we
have
a
second
thank
you,
chairman,
you're
recognized.
Thank
you,
mr.
D
Chair
and
committee
for
today's
entertainment,
I
stand
before
you
this
this
bill
has
been
generating
a
lot
of
heat
and
light.
That
is
really
not
necessary,
so
I
hope
I
can
explain
to
you
why
it's
not
necessary
and
we'll
go
from
there.
The
guts
of
the
bill
straightforwardly
are
to
ensure
compliance
with
existent
law.
D
Let's
start
off
with
title
four
chapter:
five,
which
is
the
uapa
act
in
tennessee
law,
specifies
in
section
the
first
section
under
under
definitions.
D
That
policy
is
basically
the
rules
and
procedures
for
inside
the
walls
and
I'm
using
the
walls
metaphorically
on
an
org
chart
inside
the
org
chart.
You
can
do
policies
for
the
organization
because
it
doesn't
affect
anybody
outside
the
organization,
that
is
to
say
an
organization
can
say.
Okay,
all
the
employees
will
wear
a
black
suit
on
wednesday,
and
that
can
be
done
by
policy.
They
can
say
all
the
employees
will
fill
out
forms
at
this
time.
This
way
that's
policy.
D
D
D
This
was
aimed
specifically
at
our
own
department
of
education
office
of
civil
rights,
because
they
were
promulgating
policies
that
affected
every
school
district
in
the
state
over
which
they
have
no
jurisdiction,
and,
after
several
discussions
with
them
and
them
saying
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
we're
gonna
do
it
here.
We
are
two
or
two
years
later
and
they
haven't
done
it.
So,
hence
this
bill.
D
Up
until
this
point
they
have
not.
Now,
we've
had
a
lot
of
rules
that
have
come
through
recently,
where
all
the
universities
have
gone
back
and
put
forward
rules
on
student
conduct,
because,
quite
frankly,
the
federal
code
of
regulations
has
changed
and
said
you
must
do
that.
So
they've
all
come
forward
with
that.
Consequently,
any
changes
that
the
universities
have
to
make
as
a
use
as
a
result
of
this
are
basically
just
taking
policies
and
making
them
rules
if
the
rules
are
not
violating
anything
else.
D
All
they've
got
to
do
is
go
through
the
rulemaking
process
and
say
this
policy
is
now
a
rule,
and
it's
done
despite
that.
Some
of
the
wording
in
here
that
was
put
in
here
and
because
of
some
issues
I'll
go
over
in
a
minute,
has
got
them
a
little
bit
of
dithering
and
a
flux
guessing
and
so
forth.
So
let
me
clarify
that
for
you
right
now,
let's
begin
with
what
I
said:
the
state
department
of
education,
the
office
of
civil
rights.
D
They
are
charged
with
investigating
title
ix,
complaints
against
local
education
authorities
using
their
own
self-published
investigation
manual,
which
is
online
and
that's
fine.
They
have
the
authority
to
create
that,
except
in
that
manual
they
go
beyond
investigation
and
say:
if
you
don't
do
what
we
want
you
to
do.
We
department
of
education,
office
of
civil
rights
will
withhold
money
from
you
so
now
we're
affecting
somebody
outside
the
department
of
education.
That's
why
it
has
to
be
a
rule.
D
D
So
if
the
department
of
education
puts
this
in
rules
and
it
comes
before
us
and
we
collectively
say
no,
you
can't
do
that.
Then
they've
got
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
come
up
with
something
that
we
approve.
That's
straightforward:
the
idea
that
they
can
take
money
on
the
office
of
civil
rights
word,
that
is
to
say
they
in
their
guidance.
They
don't
have
to
go
through
the
commissioner
or
they
don't
have
to
come
to
anybody
else,
that's
in
their
manual
okay.
D
So
this
is
just
saying,
if
you're
going
to
do
that,
you
better
bring
a
rule
and
again
that's
what
this
is
about.
Now
they
have
been
up
until
this
point
operating
on
policies,
and
let
me
explain
why
this
got
to
be
an
issue
about
two
administrations
federal
administrations
ago.
There
was
something
put
out
called
the
dear
colleague,
letters
and
the
dear
colleague,
letters
were
were
put
out
in
as
federal
policies
and
they
that
those
policies
threatened
to
withhold
money
from
every
university
in
the
nation
if
they
didn't
comply
with
what
those
policies
were
well.
D
Every
university
in
the
nation,
including
right
here
in
tennessee
leaped,
through
about
nine
hoops
in
a
row
to
keep
from
losing
money
and
in
the
process
over
500
lawsuits
were
generated
now
as
a
result
of
those
lawsuits.
We
now
have
those
rules.
I
talked
about
on
student
conduct
because
the
universities
brought
said
due
process
was
being
roundly
and
soundly
ignored.
D
Hence
all
the
lawsuits
and
by
the
way,
I'll
point
out,
no
university
won
one,
including
two
here
in
tennessee,
so
the
the
due
process
requirement
said,
put
out
rules
and,
oh
by
the
way,
the
last
federal
administration
before
the
current
one
changed
policy
and
said
this
is
not
right:
it's
a
violation
of
federal
law,
so
what
they
did
was
they
went
through
the
process
of
creating
federal
regulations.
I
believe
it's
35
cfr
106..
D
But
the
point
is
this:
it's
now
a
federal
regulation,
so
our
universities
are
protected,
that
is
to
say
if
they
follow
the
federal
regulations
that
the
lawsuits
don't
happen
and
oh
by
the
way
the
federal
regulation
says
you,
universities
will
create
rules.
Hence
what
I
just
said:
they've
all
come
before
us,
except
our
own
department
of
education,
and
so
this
is
again
putting
in
black
letter
law.
D
Thou
shalt
comply
with
what
it
says
now.
The
the
the
issue
with
with
the
universities
right
now
is
they're
running
around
ringing
their
hands
because
I
specifically
said
in
this
bill
that
you
can't
react
to
federal
policy.
You
can
only
react
to
federal
statutes
and
federal
regulations
and
they're
worried
again.
D
As
someone
pointed
out
to
me,
I
I'm
a
little
bit
of
a
nerd
in
this
area.
I
actually
read
the
law,
but
if
they
had
read
that
law
that
wouldn't
be
a
problem
anyway,
they're
going
to
have
to
go
back
to
their
their
diversity
and
inclusion
offices
and
basically
say
our
policies
now
must
be
rules.
I'm
not
saying
you
have
to
change
policy.
D
You
can
keep
your
policies,
you
just
got
to
put
it
in
the
form
of
rule
and
again
that
will
put
it
in
front
of
us
in
general
assembly
for
us
to
say:
okay,
if
you're
doing
something
outside
of
your
office
or
outside
the
university,
if
you're
just
affecting
faculty
and
staff
in
your
university
go
for
it,
policies
are
fine,
but
if
you
do
something
that
affects
somebody
other
than
faculty
and
staff,
as
in
students,
it's
got
to
be
a
rule.
Well,
they
recognize
that
already
like.
D
They're
worried,
though,
because
I
said
you
can't
react
to
policy
they're
saying:
oh,
my
god,
we're
going
to
lose
federal
funding
and
the
direct
answer
to
that
straightforwardly.
Is
you
just
take
your
policy
and
make
it
a
rule
and
you
don't
lose
federal
funding?
The
federal
government
doesn't
care.
If
you
do
it
by
rural
policy,
it's
not
their
business,
they
just
say
do
it
and
if
you
do
it
fine,
it
doesn't
matter
how.
D
D
So
the
the
concern
that
they're
expressing
is
as
much
the
fact
that
they're
ignorant
of
that
particular
process
and
I'm
not
saying
that
in
a
bad
way.
It's
I
mean
those
of
us
that
work
up
here
in
the
legislature
or
work
in
law
offices.
You
know
yeah,
that's
our
stuff.
We
get
into
that,
and
so
I'm
not
criticizing
for
not
knowing
that.
However,
I
have
a
telephone
and
I
do
answer
it,
and
so
they
could
ask
me
some
of
them
have
and
I've
told
them
don't
have
to
worry.
D
Some
of
them
are
still
worried.
I
don't
know
why,
but
anyway,
I'm
willing
to
meet
with
them
and
and
show
them
chapter
and
verse
what
it
says,
and
they
can
then
go
from
there
by
the
way
this
bill
does
one
other
thing
that
the
department
of
education
was
not
doing,
and
that
is
it.
It
makes
them
in
their
statement.
They
said
we
advise
school
districts
on
how
to
stay
in
compliance
with
with
the
law.
At
that
time
it
was
the
federal
policy
issues,
and
I
said
yes,
but
do
you
advise
them?
D
So
if
they're
in
the
the
dressing
room,
the
locker
room
or
whatever
and
they're
watching
miners
disrobing
they're
committing
another
criminal
act
which
again
all
this
bill,
does
it
says
department
of
education?
If
you're
going
to
give
advice
to
our
school
districts,
you
must
give
them
all
the
advice,
that
is
to
say
if
they
want
to.
D
Let
transgenders
do
this
that
or
the
other.
You
must
be
aware
that
state
law
has
got
to
be
observed
now
the
universities
have
not
been
upset
over
this
part
of
it.
To
my
knowledge,
they
haven't
mentioned
that
part
of
it.
The
part
they
were
concerned
with
was
losing
funding
and
by
the
way,
the
the
peeping
tom
law
is
not
a
felony
for
somebody
over
18,
but
it
is
under
18
which,
by
the
way,
encompasses
k
through
12..
D
D
Take
your
policy
conduct
rulemaking
process,
bring
it
before
gov
ops
get
the
blessing
on
it,
and
you're
done
we're
not
going
to
tell
you
got
to
change
policies
just
make
it
a
rule
and
oh
by
the
way.
If
the
federal
government
changes
something
and
you're
afraid
you're
going
to
lose
money
that
quickly
bring
an
emergency
rule,
so
again
I
apologize
for
being
a
bit
wonky
here.
The
this
issue
began
because
we
had
a
situation
here
in
our
state
and
again,
I'm
not
going
to
call
the
county.
D
Let's
just
say
it
was
a
very
rural
school
district.
They
had
a
situation
where
they
called
the
department
of
education.
The
department
of
education
gave
them
the
advice
and
a
complaint
filtered.
My
way
this
by
the
way
was
in
west
tennessee.
So
one
wasn't
even
in
my
district
I
got
it
came
to
me
because
I
was
chairing
a
subcommittee
and
that
started
the
research
on
this
and
then
I
found
out
that
we
had
some
other
issues
in
other
districts
as
well.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Chairman
reagan.
I
do
believe
chairman
white
had
a
question
for
you.
You're
recognized.
C
E
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
look
at
this.
I
think
in
one
way
we
normally
do
is
trying
to
consider
unintended
consequences
and
what
I'm
getting
at
it
sounds
like
when
we
talk
about
rules
and
policies
that
we're
putting
in
place.
E
D
D
Guidelines
are
different
guidelines,
are
quote
unquote,
policies
and
that's:
what's
got
us
in
trouble
in
the
last
go-around
because
they
put
out
a
policy
that
we
reacted
to
they,
the
federal
government.
Okay,
sorry,
the
federal
government
put
out
a
policy
that
we
reacted
to,
and
every
university
in
the
nation
reacted
to
because
they
threatened
to
withhold
money
now
had
they
tried
to
do
that,
there
would
have
been
lawsuits
and
they
would
have
lost,
but
in
the
meantime,
that
money
would
have
stopped
coming
to
the
universities.
A
Please
continue.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
E
Okay,
please
continue.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
If
I
may
ask
council
our
council
the
same
question,
if
we.
E
A
Representative
hakeem
was
that
question
for
legal,
okay,
we're
gonna
gavel.
A
No,
it's
okay,
we're
gonna
gabble
out
for
just
a
moment,
and
hopefully
everybody's
memory
will
surpass
the
gavel.
A
E
F
John
williams,
office
of
legal
services
in
section
one
subdivision
a2,
it
states
that
rules
promulgated
pursuant
to
the
subsection
a
must
comply
with
the
united
states
code,
the
code
of
federal
regulations
and
state
law.
F
E
F
If
the,
if
the
united
states
department
of
education
is
putting
forth
policy
guidelines
that
are
connected
to
a
federal
program,
they
would
have,
I
can't
say
what
how
they
would
enforce
those.
E
Right,
okay,
all
right-
and
I
guess
one
last
question
at
this
time.
Mr
chairman.
E
I
was
going
to
address
it
to
chairman.
A
E
Institutions
higher
education
to
have
a
robust
discussion
on
this
trying
to
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
is
again.
Are
we
putting
ourselves
in
a
posture
that
could
harm
our
our
institutions?
Without
you
know,.
D
The
the
straightforward
answer
to
your
question
is
you
know
one
cannot
predict
what
particular
federal
policies
quote
unquote
would
be
would
exist.
Okay,
however,
as
a
fully
enfranchised
voting
citizen
of
the
republic
of
the
united
states
of
america,
I
follow
laws
and
federal
rules.
D
D
This
way,
that's
for
them
and
they
can
then
pass
a
rule
that
says
I
have
to
fill
it
out
that
way,
but
the
policy
as
it
goes
forth,
is
questionable
as
whether
or
not
it
applies
to
me
directly
as
as
a
state,
the
state
of
tennessee
again
federal
policies
are
not
statute
and
they
are
not
federal
rules,
they're
policies
and
and
policies.
By
the
way,
I
should
point
out,
policies
are
made
by
executive
departments,
not
congress.
D
D
A
Do
I
have
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
chairman
white
you're
recognized.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
chairman
reagan.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
in
depth.
We're
so
fortunate
to
have
you,
with
your
background,
experience
to
get
into
detail
on
issues
that
maybe
many
of
us
don't
have
a
good
thing.
What
I
want
to
ask
is
taking,
as
we
move
a
good
piece
of
legislation
or
any
piece
of
legislation
forward.
There
is
some
consternation.
I've
spoken
to
our
seven
universities,
t
tbr
and
they
still
have
consternation.
C
So
I
don't
know
where
the
will
of
the
committee
is
to
move
it
on
the
full
or
hold
it
here,
but
I
would
like
for
you
to
ask
that
you
sit
down
one
more
time
with
these
institutions
with
these
groups
and
see
if
we
can't
come
to
some
conclusion
to
kind
of
solve
the
issues
that
they
have.
I
think
the
main
thing
with
them
is
section
two
item
b,
the
policy
guidance.
C
I
think
that's
the
main,
the
main
part,
so
I
say
I'm
with
the
will
of
committee
what
they
want
to
do
with
with
the
bill.
You're
very
articulate
and
you've
done
a
great
job,
but
I
just
want
to
bring
them
along
and
or
not
at
some
point.
D
I
have
no
problem
with
sitting
down
with
that
group.
I've
answered
phone
calls
from
a
number
of
them
already.
I
think
their
concern
is
because,
like
I
said
two
federal
administrations
ago,
a
policy
was
put
out
and
they
were
threatened
with
funding
laws
and
the
courts
did
not
have
a
chance
to
rule
on
that
because
it
was
never
taken
to
court.
From
that
direct
standpoint,
as
I
said,
there
were
500
lawsuits
filed
in
relation
to
that
and
no
university
won
one.
D
So
to
answer
the
question
that
was
asked
earlier
about
policy.
If
there's
disputes,
that's
why
we
have
a
judicial
system,
they
settle
the
disputes,
but
I'd
say
500
to
nothing
is
a
pretty
good
record
and
even
many
of
those
by
the
way
never
got
to
court.
They
were
settled,
and
so
the
point
is
where
the
court
rulings
have
been
made.
D
Situation
we're
talking
about
with
those
those
were
all
due
process
violations,
as
in
students,
were
not
given
due
process
before
they
were
handed
penalties
or
sanctions
regardless.
The
principle
is
the
same,
so
I'm
I'm
perfectly
willing
to
meet
with
anybody
and
discuss
it.
I
have
no
intention
of
amending
this
bill
if
you
want
to
hold
it
in
here
on
the
case
of
getting
an
amendment,
I
have
no
intention
of
amending
it.
If
you
want
to
send
it
out,
I
can
I
can
meet
with
the
prior
to
the
full
committee.
That's
fine,
too!
D
If
you
want
to
hold
it
in
here
as
the
sponsor,
I
don't
care.
I
would
ask
that
if
you're
going
to
hold
it
in
here
that
you
don't
ask
me
to
roll
it
because
of
the
new
rules
that
we
have,
we
only
get
two
roles
and
should
some
other
conflict
develop.
I
want
to
have
those
two
in
my
pocket.
So
if
the
committee
wants
to
roll
it,
I'm
fine,
if
not,
I
would
ask
that
we
conduct
those
meetings
between
this
one
and
then
full
committee.
C
D
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I've
got
two
quick
questions.
If
you
give
me
just
a
little
bit
of
leeway,
one
actually
just
a
quick
follow-up,
and
you
may
have
noted
it
chairman
reagan,
that
the
section
that
chairman
white
had
mentioned
what
what
was
the
what
was
the
section
you
said
that
the
universities
had
an
issue
with.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
I
I
can,
if
you
don't
mind
me
directing
that
to
chairman.
C
F
G
Want
to
you
want
to
make
sure
that
that
they're,
in
compliance
with
federal
law
and
regulation,
that
they're
not
changing
policy
they're,
not
changing
rules
of
state
agencies
or
state
entities
because
of
a
dear
colleague
letter.
You
want
to
ensure
that
if
they're
changing
a
if
they're
changing
an
actual
rule
of
a
state
agency
or
of
a
state
entity
entity,
they
are
doing
that
because
of
a
change
in
federal
rule
or
federal
law.
G
D
Accurate
and
for
clarity
again,
let
me
let
me
point
out
the
section
that
was
brought
up
here,
that
section
two
says:
rules
promulgated.
Pursuant
to
this
subsection
must
and
then
b,
not
include
policy
guidance
from
the
united
states.
It
does
not
say
that
they
do
not
have
to
pay
attention
to
policy
guidance.
It's
just
they
can't
put
federal
policy
in
their
rules.
D
Rules
have
to
be
based
on
law
and,
specifically
what
this
general
assembly
says.
The
rules
are
supposed
to
be
on
that
that
that's
our.
G
A
Do
we
have
representative
baum
you're,
recognized
chairman
reagan
from
a
practical
standpoint?
Would
there
be
a
lot
of
university
policies
that
would
have
to
be
converted
to
rules
and
therefore
come
in
front
of
the
government
operations
committee
up
here
or
would
it
be
a?
Would
it
be
an
overwhelming
number
or
a
relatively
small
number.
D
Frankly,
since
we've
already
gone
through
the
drill
with
student
conduct,
I
don't
know
of
any
that
they
would
have
to
do
this.
Just
basically,
this
is
says
if
you
have
rules
or
if
you
have
policies
that
affect
anybody
other
than
employees
or
faculty
members
inside
the
university,
you
have
to
do
it
by
rule
now
that,
by
the
way
I
should
mention,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning-
that's
already
tennessee
law.
D
It's
just
been
ignored.
This
bill
puts
out
clarity
and
says
you've
got
to
follow
the
law
and,
in
a
nutshell,
the
purpose
is
to
say
the
universities.
I-
and
I
get
directly
to
your
question.
I
don't
envision
that
they've
got
to
change
a
lot
of
anything.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
didn't.
I
didn't
go
shopping
through
the
university
rules
to
see
or
their
policies
to
see
the
concern
that
they
have
is
based
on
previous
administrations.
D
That
dear
colleague
letter
where
the
funding
was
threatened
to
be
withheld,
which
there's
some
question
about
whether
that
was
legal
or
not
anyway,
but
that,
as
is
the
case
with
every
university,
you
know
they
depend
on
us
to
give
them
money.
They
depend
on
donors
to
give
them
money
and
they
depend
on
the
federal
government
to
give
them
money
and
by
the
way,
that
threat
that
the
dear
colleague
letter
levied
was
not
just
a
grant
that
included
pell
grants
included
student
loans.
D
I
mean
it
was
a
huge
chunk
of
what
a
university
needs
to
keep
operating.
So
that's
the
reason
it
wasn't
like
they
just
said.
Oh,
my
god,
we
got
a
policy,
it
was,
oh,
my
god
we're
going
to
be
bankrupt,
and
so
that's
the
reason
they
leap
through
all
those
hoops
which,
by
the
way,
was
the
intent
of
that
federal
policy
that
they
put
forward.
D
But-
and
let
me
stress
again,
we're
supposed
to
be
a
nation
of
laws-
we're
not
a
nation
of
policies,
and
so
I
I
cannot
emphasize
how
strongly
I
feel
that
whatever
these
universities
are
going
to
do-
and
I
don't
I
don't
care
about
running
their
shop
for
them
as
that's
more
than
I
want
on
my
plate,
except
whatever
they
do.
I
don't.
I
want
them
to
do
in
accordance
with
the
laws
that
we've
got
on
the
books,
the
stuff
that
you
and
you-
and
I
and
all
of
us
up
here
have
been
involved
in
passing.
D
A
Thank
you
and
chairman
lafferty,
I'm,
I
think
I'm
comfortable
with
the
bill.
Thank
you
for
that.
Do
we
have
any
more
questions,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
I
would
add
just
from
my
observations
my
time
on
government
operations,
this
is
getting
into
the
weeds.
I
don't
think
anybody's
got
any
doubt
about
that.
We
could
not
have
someone
more
knowledgeable
bringing
this
in
front
of
us
today.
I've
had
a
chance
to
observe
you
for
the
last
couple
of
years
in
gov,
ops
and
it's
impressive,
your
command
of
the
material
and
the
content.
Thank
you
for
that.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Having
said
all
that
that's
the
butter,
having
said
all
that,
would
you
mind
if
we
did
a
committee
role
with
this
bill
and
give
some
people
some
time
to
settle
their
minds
as
long
as
it
doesn't
cost
me
one
of
my
pocket
roles,
I'm
fine,
it's
my
understanding
that
it
will
not
any
comments
from
the
committee
if
the
committee's
okay,
with
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
we're
going
to
do
that,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
roll
this
on
down
the
calendar
and
I'm
sure.
A
D
And,
as
chairman
white
said,
if
I
may
close,
I'm
happy
to
meet
with
anybody,
phone
call
face
to
face
doesn't
matter
anytime.
They
want,
because
if
it
fits
with
our
schedules,
I'm
good
to
go
and
chairman
white.
B
D
A
A
Okay
and
house
bill,
I'm
sorry:
I've
lost
my
number
here
house
bill.
576
has
been
rolled
for
one
week.
A
Yes,
next
up,
let's
call
chairman
crawford
for
house
bill
378.
H
Several
different
discounts
that
can
be
applied
for
state
employees,
teachers
and
other
members
of
the
of
the
state
and
my
bill
does
nothing
to
affect
the
current
discounts
that
are
in
place.
They
are
grandfathered
in
what
my
bill
would
do
is
put
some
more
financial
responsibility
to
myself
and
to
each
one
of
you.
H
If
you
bring
a
discount
bill,
I've
met
with
the
universities
everybody's
happy
with
this.
I've
had
no
nobody
push
back
on
it,
but
basically
what
the
bill
would
do
is,
if
you
bring
a
bill
to
the
legislature
to
be
passed
that
puts
a
discount
in
place.
Let's
say
we're
going
to
give
everybody
with
yellow
dogs
a
five
percent
discount,
then
you
as
a
legislator
and
you
as
carrying
the
bill,
would
be
responsible
to
look
in
the
budget
or
go
to
the
governor
and
get
a
financial
note
from
him
that
says
that
it
would
be
funded.
H
C
No
question
comment.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
We've
dealt
with
this
issue
for
many
years.
I
think
whether
it
be-
and
this
is
one
reason-
we've
rolled
the
lottery
bills
into
a
lottery
calendar
because
we'll
have
a
dozen
of
these
throughout
the
session-
and
they
all
add
up
just
like
these-
have
in
the
these
discounts,
and
so
there
comes
a
point
in
time.
We
either
have
to
find
the
money.
I
think
I
think
the
money
right
now
is
about
20
million
statewide
on
all
our
universities,
where
you
know
everybody,
everybody
has
a
good
cause.
E
C
A
You,
sir,
and
just
a
quick
observation
too,
with
with
something
like
this:
there's
always
the
payer's,
always
whoever
the
public
is,
and
this
is
kind
of
addressing
a
little
bit.
Is
it
totally
taxpayer-funded
sub
with
the
discounts
if
we
impose
them,
or
does
it
end
up
back
on
the
students.
H
H
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
Seeing
none.
We
have
a
question
on
the
bill.
Was
that
a
question
or
said
it
all
in
favor,
all
in
favor
of
passage
of
house
bill,
I've
lost
my
place
again.
A
H
A
Next
up
we
have
one
of
our
own
representative
gillespie
with
hb
763.
Do
I
have
motion
and
second,
all
right,
representative
gigglesby,
you
were
recognized.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
committee.
So
what
this
says
is
a
technical
correction
bill
involving
the
tennessee
higher
education
commission
and
the
way
they
do
some
of
their
reporting
and
one
of
their
main
goals
is
to
produce
timely
publications
of
reports
to
us,
the
general
assembly
and
so
before.
Getting
into
some
of
the
details.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
on
the
record
that
nothing
in
this
bill
modifies
any
of
the
existing
programs
or
reports,
programs
or
roles
that
they
do
so
basically,
what
it's
aiming
to
do
is
to
consolidate
and
kind
of
merging
the
different
reports
from
tech
department,
education
and
labor
into
basically
a
more
comprehensive
report,
and
it
removes
a
lot
of
obsolete
language
that
they
currently
do.
So
they
can
do
this
a
little
bit
better,
timely
manner,
and
that's
really
essentially
what
this
is
doing.
I
welcome
any
questions.
Thank.
A
A
With
that
being
said
with,
I
see
no
other
questions,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
the
vote,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
opposed,
and
that
sounds
like
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
this
bill
will
move
out
too
full
committee?
Congratulations.
A
We
are
still
in
the
early
early
stages
of
that.
Thank
you
sure,
any
personal
orders.
Anybody
want
to
get
anything
else
out
of
the
way,
any
other
thoughts.
All
right.
We've
got
to
go
through
a
little
house
cleaning
here
we're
going
to
call
each
lottery
bill
each
bill.
That's
intended
to
go
to
the
lottery
calendar,
I
might
say,
and
roll
them
one
by
one.
So
if
you'll
bear
with
us
house,
bill
139
by
lamberth
has
been
rolled
to
the
lottery
calendar.
A
House
bill
542
by
travis,
I'm
sorry
by
powers
is
rolled
to
the
lottery
calendar
and
house
bill
1340
by
ogles
will
be
rolled
to
the
lottery
calendar
and
with
that,
if
no
one
else
has
anything
to
add,
I
believe
we
will
go
ahead
and
adjourn
motion
to
adjourn.