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Description
House Higher Education Subcommittee House Hearing Room 3
A
Hey
good
afternoon,
everybody
welcome
to
my
second
edition,
as
chairman
of
the
higher
education
subcommittee,
it's
february
23rd
2021,
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
to
order.
And
madam
secretary,
please
take
the
role.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Before
we
get
started,
are
there
any
personal
orders
before
we
begin
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
down
the
calendar
here,
we've
got
two
bills
up
today
should
be
pretty
quick
and
we
will
start
with
hb0083.
A
C
Chairman
members,
this
is
a
repeat
for
some
of
the
full
committee
chair
from
the
112th
general
assembly
and
for
the
new
members
welcome.
The
present
law
establishes
the
tennessee
support,
training
and
renewing
opportunity
for
national
guard
members.
C
C
D
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
and
representative
moon.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
again.
We
had
this
last
year
for
those
who
may
remember,
and
it
passed
unanimously
out
of
the
house
because
of
covet
it
didn't
make
its
way
through
the
senate,
so
we're
bringing
you're
bringing
it
again
about.
Two
years
ago
I
met
with
the
national
guard
specialist
education
specialist.
D
They
were
named
sergeant,
scarlett
bernier,
and
she
told
me
at
the
time
how
much
they
would
enjoy
having
this,
because
this
is
how
their
the
the
national
guardsmen
can
move
up
in
rank
in
our
state
and
literally
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
our
national
guardsmen,
which
are
scattered
all
over
our
state
in
our
rural
communities
as
well
as
urban
areas.
This
helps
them
with
with
degrees
and
so
great
bill.
I'm
glad
you
stuck
to
it
and
brought
it
back
again.
C
Mr
chairman
you're
recognized
it
started
as
a
pilot
program.
It
was
meant
to
for
recruiting
now
it's
transitioning
into
a
retention
program,
an
author
of
making
a
pathway
for
these
talented
captains
to
become
light,
colonels
and
colonels,
and
those
that's
the
type
of
talent
and
leadership
we
need
to
to
retain,
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
driving
forces
for
bringing
the
bill
before
you
today.
A
A
A
A
D
I'll
just
stay
right
here:
members,
if
that's
okay,
okay,
house,
bill,
473
members,
I
will
explain
this.
I
did
do
the
24
hour
advance
notice
if
we
get
in
the
weeds
and
you
need
to
ask
our
higher
ed
or
tbr
personnel
that
are
here,
but
I
think
I
can
explain
this
is
actually
a
bill.
We
passed
back
in
2018
and
the
purpose
of
it,
and
I
explained
what
we're
adding
to
it.
It's
basically.
D
Then
they
can
keep
the
search
process
confidential
up
to
a
certain
point.
Why
is
that
necessary?
D
Because
when
you're
going
after
some
of
the
best
of
the
best
and
if
they
are
going
to
put
their
name
out,
there
say
that
you're,
the
president
of
university
in
another
state
or
in
a
corporation,
and
if
your
name
was
put
out
there,
then
it
would
cause
you
problems
with
with
maybe
your
current
employer
or
your
current
university.
So
this
is
just
the
process
we
put
in
place
back
in
2018,
which
allows
the
university
search
committees
to
publicly
name
up
to
three
finalists
for
both
either
a
presidential
or
chandler
chancellor
searches
at
our
public
universities.
D
D
The
legislation
does
not
change
those
important
provisions
it
does
not.
It
does
provide
a
needed
tool
to
recruit
the
most
equipped
candidates
to
the
state
of
tennessee.
In
summary,
this
bill
extends
the
current
practice
for
selecting
finalists
for
these
positions
and
levels,
the
playing
field
for
chancellors
and
presidents
across
higher
ed.
Now
we
passed
this
original
bill
in
2018.
D
It
was
due
to
expire.
I
believe
it
was
this
year
this
year,
so
in
the
language,
we
are
also
extending
this
sunset
date
to
july
1st
of
2028,
and
that
is
basic.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
so
that
we
can
in
higher
ed
and
in
our
tbr
system,
we
can
go
after
the
best
candidates
and
keep
it
confidential
until
a
certain
point
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I
I
renew
the
motion
of
the
bill
or
ask
any
or
answer
any
questions.
A
D
A
He
just
said:
thank
you
for
that.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
chairman
seeing
none
do
we
have
any
comments
from
any
of
the
members
of
the
audience
out
here?
Okay,
please,
if
you
would
come
forward.
D
Yeah
I
did
request
the
24
hour.
Then
cornell
rules
is
that
okay.
D
A
A
Please,
if
you
would
make
sure
the
red
light's
on
in
front
of
you,
it
is.
E
E
You
and
thank
you
chairman
white,
yes,
I'm
debra
fisher
and
I'm
executive
director
of
tennessee
coalition
for
open
government
and
we've
tracked
this
particular
part
of
the
law,
since
it
was
first
changed
back
in
2012,
actually
and
then
expanded
in
2018
and
now
would
be
retained
and
expanded
slightly
again
to
not
just
presidents
but
but
chancellors
and
and
the
and
the
thing
that
we
have
been
interested
in
both
in
2018
and
now
is
that
it
does
allow
a
search
committee
as
opposed
to
before
to
just
make
public
one
applicant,
the
person
that
they
consider
the
finalist
they
can
make
as
many
as
three
as
chairman
white
explained
public.
E
But
if
the
search
committee
wanted
to,
they
could
just
announce
one
applicant
for
chancellor
or
president,
and
so
that's
why.
We've
really
watched
this
piece
of
legislation,
because
in
the
past
all
the
applicants
or
three
applicants
or
a
certain
number
of
applicants,
you
would
know
who
applied
for
these
positions.
E
E
I
participated
in
that
report,
as
did
the
co-chair
of
that
advisory
committee,
which
is
kerry
whitworth
with
with
ut,
and
so
that
is
a
good
resource
and
that
I
think,
was
able
to
bring
a
lot
of
information
to
this
bill
and
one
of
the
things
we
learned
during
the
period
since
this
passed
in
2018
and
now
is
that
of
the
there
were
eight
no
seven
presidents
hired
at
none
of
the
big
colleges,
but
at
the
colleges
of
applied
technology
and
at
the
community
colleges
under
this
provision
and
in
each
instance
at
least
two
finalist
applications
were
made
public
so
that
may
still
continue.
E
We
may
still
see
colleges
announced
to
applicants,
or
they
may
just
announce
one,
but
that
was
something
that
we
did
here.
We
did
hear
some
information
from
stakeholders
like
the
faculty
faculty,
who
really
have
probably
the
biggest
interest
in
the
president
of
the
university
and
it.
This
is
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
faculty,
but
one
comment
that
we
did
get
from
the
faculty
at
youth,
a
faculty
member
from
ut
is
they
were
more
interested
in
being
on
the
search
committee
and
a
part
of
that
process.
E
You
know,
in
terms
of
who
ends
up
being
selected
for
the
position,
so
that
has
been
the
reason
for
the
transparency
of
those
applicants
in
the
past
to
ensure
there
is
a
good,
diverse
and
robust
pool
of
applicants.
So
anyway,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you,
if
you
want
me
to.
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
believe
chairman
white's
got
a
question.
Thank.
D
You
very
much
and
I
apologize
miss
fisher.
We
talked
last
week
and
I'd
already
forgot
that
I
asked
you
to
come
today,
but
that's
fine
yeah
we've
talked
about
this
in
2018
and
also
last
week.
Ms
fisher
represents
open
government
which
we
all
want
to
respect
and
make
sure
that
nothing's
ever
done
behind,
but
she
agrees-
and
I
don't
put
words
in
the
house.
We
all
agree
that
up
to
a
certain
point,
it's
good
that
the
search
committee
can
keep
it
confidential.
D
For
the
reasons
that
I
explained
but
to
you
know,
keep
an
eye
on
things,
make
sure
things
don't
go
south
at
any
any
time,
but
if
we
want
the
best
chancellors
and
presidents
for
our
higher
education
institutions
in
our
state,
I
think
having
such
a
bill
like
this
was
is
advantageous
and
miss
whitworth.
I
had
you
on
the
list
too.
Are
you
comfortable?
You
want
to
say
anything,
mr
chairman.
I
need
to
go
through
you
on
that.
F
Well
good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
kerry
whitworth
with
the
university
of
tennessee,
this
is
a
very
important
piece
of
legislation
to
the
university
and
to
other
public
higher
education
stakeholders
recruiting
the
best
possible
candidates
during
these
searches
is
a
high
priority
for
us,
and
we
need
some
tools
to
be
able
to
do
this.
The
statute
is
one
of
those
tools.
I
will
say
there
are
very
important
transparency
requirements
in
the
statute.
Presently,
this
does
not
change
those.
For
example,
it
requires
universities
to
make
public
candidates
or
fi
finalists.
F
F
We
are
required
by
law
to
have
a
public
forum
with
those
finalists
seven
days
prior
to
a
board
vote
and
frankly,
universities
in
the
state
have
gone
above
and
beyond
the
transparency
requirements
in
the
statute.
We
have
live
streamed.
Those
events
we
have
had
more
than
one
forum.
We
have
really
tried
to
be
good
actors
in
this
space,
but
it
is
a
tool
that
we
believe
is
is
necessary,
and
I
will
just
speak
to
the
composition
of
search
committees
generally.
F
A
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
miss
whitworth
all
right,
not
seeing
any?
Thank
you
chairman.
Oh
chairman
white,
I
saw
you
had
one
more
person
on
this
list.
Did
you
want
to
call
anyone
else
to
speak.
D
A
You're
recognized,
oh
we've
got
to
gavel
back
in
real
quick
with
that
we're
back
in
session.
Call
for
the
question.
Do
I
have
a
second
all
right
members
we'll
be
voting,
call
in
favor,
say
aye
hi,
all
opposed
no
eyes
have
it.
This
bill
will
move
to
full
committee.
Thank
you.