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House Finance Sub Committee- April 28, 2021
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Thank
you
very
much
members,
any
announcements
or
personal
orders
before
we
begin
today,
seeing
none.
We
have
the
appropriations
calendar
up
today.
The
first
item
is
the
appropriations
bill,
which
will
include
the
legislative
amendment
to
the
budget
and
just
some
things
to
note.
The
document
for
the
legislative
amendment
will
be
posted
on
dashboard
for
members
and
on
the
general
assembly
website
for
the
public
for
those
that
are
accessing
the
document
on
the
general
assembly
website.
Please
refer
to
the
house
committee's
tab,
which
includes
a
proposed
amendments
button.
A
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
amendment,
any
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
the
amendment,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
those
opposed
no
the
eyes
have
it
amendment.
One
goes
on
we're
on
amendment
number
two
drafting
code,
four,
two,
four:
two:
is
there
a
motion
on
the
amendment?
We
have
a
motion.
A
second
chair,
lady
hazelwood,
you
recognized
on
the
amendment
any
discussion
on
the
amendment
members.
Let
me
back
up
we're
going
to
get
these
amendments
on
then
talk
about
the
bill.
A
I
don't
know
why
I've
directed
to
cheerleading
hazel,
but
we'll
get
going
here
in
just
a
second
all
right.
So
any
discussion
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
amendment
drafting
code,
four,
two,
four:
two,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no
the
eyes
have
it.
Amendment
two
goes
on.
That
brings
us
to
amendment
number
three
drafting
code,
four,
five,
six,
seven.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
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C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
as
you
said,
this
is
the
the
budget
bill.
We
have
numerous
sections
and
we
can,
I
think
everyone,
as
you
mentioned,
has
access
to
a
copy
of
the
bill
online.
So
I'm
I'll
just
hit
the
highlights.
C
The
the
amendments
that
we've
just
put
on
adds
section
58,
there's
additional
additions
to
the
budget.
Those
are
additional
appropriations,
departmental
revenue
and
positions.
59
is
legislation
and
those
are
where
you'll
find
funding
for
new
proposals
from
the
legislature.
C
We
have
two
new
items
there
for
merchandise
sales
at
the
department
of
ag
spaces
and
donations
to
the
department
of
education
commission
on
education,
recovery
and
innovation.
Section
13
is
the
board
of
claims,
property
insurance
and
risk
management.
That's
where
we
transfer
appropriations
from
the
state
treasurer
to
a
new
state,
captive
insurance
company.
I
believe
chairman
hicks,
that
might
have
been
your
bill
section
29
is
deals
with
higher
ed,
that's
capital
outlay,
from
school
bonds
and
institutional
sources,
and
it
also
has
the
list
of
additional
capital
outlay
projects.
C
Those
are
ut
in
both
the
ut
and
tbr
systems,
as
well
as
the
lgis,
the
locally
governed
institutions.
The
four-year
schools
and
section
29
also
has
authorizes
transfer
of
the
balance
of
a
closed
scholarship
program
to
to
sac
reserves,
and
it
declares
legislative
intent
for
ut
to
acquire
and
assume
operations
of
martin
methodist
college.
C
That's
something
that's
received
a
great
deal
of
conversation
in
this
committee
and
then
others,
section
36
carry
forward
in
appropriations
of
certain
unexpended
balances
and
we
have
some
new
carry
forwards
there
for
the
attorney
general's
oversight
of
the
state
health
plan,
and
we
have
in
section
39
program
expansions
and
those
are
there's
a
separate
report
that
was
furnished
to
general
assembly
with
these
expansions
in
section
43
over
appropriations.
Those
are
where
we're
going
to
get
reversion
dollars
back
to
the
general
fund
and
it
amends
the
projected
over
appropriations
for
fiscal
years.
20
20,
2020
2021.
C
It
updates
the
amount
of
motor
vehicle
taxes
that
are
earmarked
for
license
plates.
I'm
excited,
I
hope
you
all
are
we're
finally
going
to
get
a
new
license
plate
for
our
cars
in
tennessee,
and
we
also
transferring
funds
from
the
general
fund
to
k-12
mental
health
trust
fund
and
that's
again,
something
that's
received.
C
A
lot
of
conversation
here
in
the
media
and
other
places,
and
something
that
is,
we
feel,
will
really
be
a
boon
to
the
state
of
tennessee
and
particularly
to
our
children
as
they
deal
with
not
only
the
mental
health
issues
related
to
covid,
but
just
social
media
and
all
of
the
things
that
impact
their
lives
in
sections
47.
We
have
the
revenue
fluctuation
reserve
and
that
updates
the
total
deposit
to
the
rainy
day
fund.
We
will
be
depositing
in
the
governor's
original
proposed
budget.
There
was
a
50
million
dollar
deposit
to
the
rainy
day
fund.
C
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
your
brief
discussion
on
the
proposed
bill
and
the
limits
to
it.
I
have
a
question
on
some
of
the
adjustments
to
the
governor's
budget
proposed
amendment
in
the
schedule.
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C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
yes,
lady
camper,
I'll,
be
happy
to
do
that.
We're
able
to
do
some,
I
think
great,
physically
responsible
things
for
the
state
because
of
reallocating
some
of
those
dollars
that
you
mentioned
the
broadband.
In
the
governor's
original
proposal,
there
was
200
million
dollars
to
be
spent
on
broadband
in
the
coming
year.
C
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
how
much
of
that
can
be
spent
and
spent
wisely
in
that
amount
of
time.
There's
also
the
issue
of
the
since
the
governor's
proposal,
and
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that's
one
of
the
reasons
for
some
of
the
major
changes
in
this
budget.
Since
the
governor's
original
proposal,
there
have
been
allocations
of
very
large
sums
of
money
from
the
federal
government
that
will
be
coming
into
the
state.
Some
of
those
allocations
can
be
used
for
things
that
we
were
prior.
C
We
were
planning
to
spend
state
dollars
on,
so
we
have
a
hundred
million
dollars
in
this
year's
budget
for
broadband.
In
addition
to
that,
there
will
be
significant
federal
funding
that
can
be
used
for
that
we
are
still
planning
to.
We
will
spend
the
200
million
dollars,
assuming
it's
still
needed
after
the
federal
funds.
We
will
have
a
hundred
million
dollars
in
this
budget
and
we
plan
to
have
a
hundred
million
dollars
in
next
year's
budget
for
broadband.
C
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
spreading
the
expenditures
out,
so
I
think
we
can
be
more
thoughtful
about
it
and
hopefully
more
effective,
and
I
want
to
go
on
record
as
saying
ecd
is
in
the
process
of
contracting
for
mapping
like
door-to-door
mapping.
So
we
know
exactly
where
we
do
and
don't
have
broadband
and
at
what
level,
and
I
think,
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
get
that
study
and
then
utilizing
it
to
make
sure
that
we
are
allocating
dollars
to
the
proper
places
into
the
proper
technology
on
the
city
and
counties.
C
That's
the
local
government
piece
you
mentioned
again.
There
was
200
million
dollars
in
the
governor's
original
proposal.
Since
that
time,
the
cities
and
the
counties
will
have
now
found
out,
we've
we
know,
and
they
know
that
they
will
be
receiving
significant
federal
dollars
for
their
use.
We.
What
we
don't
know
at
this
point
is
how
those
federal
dollars,
what
sort
of
strings
will
be
attached
to
them,
what
kind
of
things
that
they
will
be
able
to
be
used
for.
C
The
governor's
proposal
is
going
to
hold
those
dollars
until
january
and
there
were
going
to
be
some
strings
attached,
so
we've
cut
the
strings
and
we've
allocated
the
monies
to
them
to
as
soon
as
the
next
year's
budget
kicks.
In
again,
the
plan
will
be,
if
needed,
depending
again
on
the
federal
dollars
that
come
down
and
how
they
can
be
used.
C
C
One
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
again,
a
concern
that
I
have.
I
don't
want
our
cities
and
counties
to
become
dependent
on
these
dollars
from
the
state.
We
have
provided
those
monies
last
year,
we're
providing
them
this
year,
we're
talking
about
providing
them
next
year,
but
it's
something
that
I
we
need
to
make
sure
that
local
governments
understand
these
dollars
are
to
be
used
for
non-recurring
expenses.
C
D
It
did
and
madam
chair,
I
understand
your
concern
of
and
wanting
to
be
frugal,
but
we've
also
come
through
a
pandemic.
So
I
think
you
know
I'm
not
saying
that
you
know
the
locals
are
gonna,
be
come
dependent
on
these
funds,
and
I
understand
your
rationale
a
little
more
now,
but
we
did
just
come
through
a
pandemic
and
still
on
the
road
to
recovery
from
that.
D
C
Exactly
leader
camper,
the
plan
is
to
have
those
dollars
available
for
the
cities
and
the
counties
next
year.
Again,
that
would
be
dependent
on
how
much
funding
they
have
received
from
the
feds
and
what
I'm
sorry
from
the
federal
government
and
how
much
you
know
what
their
remaining
needs
might
be
in
terms
of
you
know
how
those
federal
dollars
were,
what
buckets
and
boxes
what
constraints
were
put
up
on
them,
but
our
plan
would
be
again.
My
only
other
comment
was
that
this.
C
There's
a
cap,
as
I
understand
it,
they
can
only
receive
75
percent
of
their
annual
budget,
but
many
of
our
cities
and
counties
are
receiving
that
kind
of
money.
So
again,
what
we
want
I'll
want
to
be
sure
is
that
the
monies
that
are
coming
in
from
whatever
sources
from
the
state,
from
the
federal
government,
from
our
own
sales
tax
revenues
and
other
revenues,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
use
those
in
the
way
that
best
positions,
the
state
going
forward.
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
madam
chair,
and
there
was
also
a
reduction
on
the
sales
tax
holiday
does
that
include
both
the
for
food
and
the
restaurants
that
we
were.
We
cut
it
in
half.
C
That
is
correct.
There's
now
50
million
dollars
sales
tax
holiday,
for
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
split
75
for
restaurants.
Again,
what
we're
attempting
to
do
is
to
help
those
businesses
that
have
been
hardest
hit
by
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
restaurants
and
tourism
are,
you,
know-
definitely
fit
that
category.
So
75
of
that
50
million
will
be
going
towards
sales,
tax
relief
related
to
restaurants.
The
other
25
will
be
on
food.
C
In
addition
to
that,
there's
some
legislation
that
will
be
moving
through
that
will
we
will
have
a
one-year
moratorium
on
sales
tax
on
gun,
safes
and
safety
equipment
like
gun
locks,
small
safes.
Whatever,
for
this
coming
fiscal
year,
we
will
have
a
sales
tax
relief
on
that
and
the
locals
will
be
held
harmless
on
all
of
these
sales
tax
holiday
type
things.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
that
explanation,
and
what
one
other
question
that
has
to
do
with
the
original
base
budget,
as
opposed
before
the
amendment
in
section
35,.
D
Item
11
there's
a
section
in
this
in
the
base
budget
that
I
hadn't
seen
this
language
before.
So
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
any
idea
of
what
your
thoughts
are
on,
it
says
for
non-public
education,
choice,
programs,
a
reallocation
of
funds
between
the
department
of
education
and
miscellaneous
appropriations
is
authorized.
D
So
I'm
wondering
are
we
authorizing
funds
that
was
appropriated
a
couple
years
back
for
the
air
choice
program
which
was,
you
know,
was
a
lawsuit
foul
and
it
was
caught
up
in
a
lawsuit
and
all
that
are
we
I'm
now
authorizing
the
department
to
reallocate
those
funds
both
in
and
out
of
that
money
and
do
some
miscellaneous
appropriations
that
may
or
may
not
come
back
before
this
body.
Are
you
familiar
with
this
portion
of
it
or
is
it
someone
from
the
department,
or
somebody
can
talk
about
that
particular
line
item
in
the
budget.
C
C
Mr
chairman,
if
we
could,
I
think
we
have
david
thurman
is
in
the
office
and
he
probably
is
going
to
be
better
equipped
to
dig
down
into
that.
If
we
could
go
out
of
session
and
hear
from
him.
B
Hi
david
thurman
budget
director
for
the
department
of
finance
administration.
Could
you
repeat
the
section
that
you're
looking
at.
D
Excuse
me
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
comment.
It's
in
section,
35,
item
11
and
the
language
is
talking
about
the
non-public
education
choice
program.
It's
on
page
52
of
the
original
document.
If
you
have
the,
if
you
have
the
original
bill,
it's
on
page
52.
B
D
D
D
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
explanation.
So
for
the
record,
it
is
to
establish
what
we
believe
is
a
maybe
a
base
number
of
people
that
make
students
that
may
enroll
and
if
it
goes
over
that
number,
you
want
the
authorization
to
move
money
from
some
miscellaneous
pots,
basically
to
fill
in
for
student
enrollment.
That's
correct!
So
does
this
language
also
authorize
you
to
move
funds
out
of
that
pot
of
money
to
some
other
miscellaneous
pot
for
the
record.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
discuss
these
details,
a
couple
of
things
that
I
would
I
would
point
out
as
well.
One
concern
that
I
have
immediately
is
eliminating
the
reduction
in
the
professional
privilege
tax.
I
mean
we're
we're
all
getting
input
from
our
constituents
that
this
is
a
very
high
priority
to
re,
to
eliminate
this
very
unfair
tax
on
certain
professions
in
our
state.
It's
not
a
privilege
to
do
business
in
this
state.
It's
a
right
and-
and
I'm
I'm
disappointed
that
that
this
has
not
been
a
full
elimination.
E
It
wasn't
proposed
to
be,
and-
and
I
sure
certainly
wish
that
we
had
had
opportunity
to
do
that
in
this
budget.
The
other
point
I
want
to
make
is,
I'm
actually
glad
to
see
the
reduction
in
the
broadband
grant.
E
Most
in
this
general
assembly
do
not
realize
what
we're
about
to
see
in
this
state,
and
that's
that's
going
to
be
100
coverage
for
broadband
enter
at
the
internet
and
with
the
speeds
similar
to
and
soon
to
exceed.
What
fiber
can
provide
every
home
in
this
state
is
about
to
have
it
this
year
without
us
putting
one
dime
of
money
into
it,
so
I've
been
I've
talked
with
and
chairman
zachary
and
I've
talked
with
the
economic
community
development
folks
to
make
sure
they
know
about
this.
E
I
even
encourage
them
to
look
at
using
some
of
these
grants
to
supplement
some
of
the
equipment
for
that.
These
one
company
is
going
to
be
offering
that
or
you
can
already
sign
up
for
it
right
now.
It's
not
turned
on
yet,
but
it'll
be
later
this
year,
probably
this
summer,
and
I
would
encourage
the
use
of
this
money-
some
of
this
money,
at
least
to
supplement
the
equipment
that
that
individuals
can
purchase
for
that
instead
of
supplementing
running
wires.
E
E
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
kind
of
echo
a
little
bit
about
what
my
colleague,
representative
todd
was
mentioning
about
the
professional
privilege
tax,
and
I
just
want
to
make
a
statement
that
I
look
forward
to
working
with
our
speaker
and
the
governor
over
the
summer,
and
hopefully
you
know
our
original
intent
was
to
I've
talked
to
chair
lady
hazelwood,
and
she
concurs
that
we've
got
to
look
at
you
know
being
more
effective
in
what
we're
doing
with
the
professional
privilege
tax.
B
Instead
of
you
know
these
smaller
amounts,
and
you
know
we've
got
to
do
it
in
the
right
way.
That
justifies
the
taxpayers,
but
I
do
look
forward
to
working
on
that
this
summer,
along
with
chris
todd,
and
you
know,
pushing
to
eliminate
the
professional
privilege
tax
in
a
complete
repeal.
That
makes
sense.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank.
A
You
later
again
further
discussion
seeing
none.
We
are
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1153,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No,
the
eyes
haven't
house
bill.
1153
moves
to
full
finance,
all
right
members.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
two.
But
before
we
go
to
item
number
two,
I'm
going
to
take
a
point
of
privilege
here.
I've
got
a
special
guest
in
the
in
the
audience.
He
is
a
former
constituent
of
mine
and
we've
got
mr
pierson
harrison
back
there
pearson.
A
If
you'll
stand
up,
pearson
is
11
years
old.
He
and
my
oldest
daughter
are
pretty
much
the
same
age
and
I
don't
know
if
he
wants
me
to
admit
it
or
not,
but
he
is
the
youngest
son
of
my
cares
and
so
pearson
it's
good
to
have
you
here.
Thank
you
all
right
members.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
two
on
our
calendar.
That's
house
bill,
1151
by
chair,
lady
hazelwood.
You
have
a
motion
a
second
you
are
recognized.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
just
increases
the
amount
by
which
state
appropriations
from
state
tax
revenues
for
next
fiscal
year
may
exceed
the
index
of
estimated
growth
in
the
state's
economy
and
that's
by
431
400,
431
million
600
000
and
that's
2.37,
and
there
are
no
amendments.
A
A
A
That
brings
us
to
item
number
three
on
our
calendar
out
of
number
three
on
our
calendars
house
bill
1154
by
chair
lady
hazelwood.
Do
we
have
a
motion
a
second?
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
on
house
bill
1154.
It
looks
like
we
also
have
an
amendment
one
drafting
code.
7321.
This
amendment
will
be
withdrawn.
A
That
brings
us
to
amendment
number
two
drafting
code.
7813.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
we're
going
to
get
these
on
again.
Let
me
just
put
us
in
the
proper
posture
we're
going
to
put
these
amendments
on.
Then
we
will
come
back
and
discuss
the
bill
as
amended,
so
that
is
again
drafting
code
7813..
We
have
an
emotion
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
7813,
going
on
to
house
bill,
1154,
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
no,
the
eyes
have
it.
Amendment
goes
on
and
I
think
that
is
the
final
one.
C
C
C
Okay,
they,
the
retail
sale
of
food
and
food
ingredients,
is
for
one
week
and
it's
between
friday
july
30th
and
thursday
august.
The
5th
and
prepared
food
are
the
same
dates
so,
and
those
will
be
a
week.
Each.
A
A
Question
has
been
called
on
the
bill.
Yeah
we're
on
the
bill.
Question
has
been
called
on
the
bill.
Any
objection
to
the
calling
of
the
question
hearing,
none
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
house
bill,
1154,
moving
on
to
full
finance,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed.
No
the
eyes
have
it
house
bill,
1154,
full
finance.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
just
a
bill.
We
pass
it
every
year.
It
authorizes
the
state
to
issue
and
sell
bonds
up
to
126
million
dollars.
We
don't
have
any
plans
in
this
budget
to
do
so,
but
this
is
back
up.
Should
the
bottom
fall
out,
should
there
be
some
happen
that
we
need
to
do
this?
This
will
allow
the
state
to
issue
bonds
up
to
that
level.
B
B
I
was
frustrated
by
doing
it
that
time,
because
I
felt
like
we
could
go
forward
without
that,
but
the
the
statement
that
you
just
made
that
no
new
debt
is
going
into
the
state
of
tennessee
is
very
important,
and
I
don't
want
that
just
to
gloss
over
people
that
is
critically
important,
how
we're
paying
our
bills
and
paying
as
we
go.
So
thank
you
for
this
and
your
statement
that
we
are
not
issuing
any
bonds
or
have
no
plans
at
this
moment
to
issue
any
bonds.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.