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From YouTube: House Finance, Ways, Means & Committee- April 13, 2021
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House Finance, Ways, Means & Committee- April 13, 2021
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So
we
have
a
lot
to
do
in
a
short
time
to
do
it
in
so.
Without
further
ado,
I
will
remind
you
members
that
the
documentation
is
on
the
dashboard
and
we
will
go
out
of
session
and
we
will
ask
commissioner
ely
to
the
man
who
needs
no
introduction
to
introduce
himself
and
anyone
else
that
his
right
hand
person
there
that's
going
to
answer
the
hard
questions.
I
assume
david
thurman
and
anyone
else.
So
mr
ely.
E
From
a
budget
standpoint.
As
as
you
all
know,
this
has
been
anything
but
an
ordinary
year.
You
know
last
june,
we
were
in
a
very
different
place
than
we
are
today
and
I
came
before
you
presenting
a
multi-year
budget
to
get
us
structurally
balanced
over
that
time
period
and
I'm
proud
that
our
fiscal
year,
22
proposed
budget
achieved
that
feat
in
just
just
one
year,
and
so
we're
all
we're
all
happy
about
that.
E
The
budget
amendment
before
you
today,
together
with
the
original
proposal,
is
really
also
a
long
view
budget
because
of
everything
that's
going
on
nationally
and
within
the
state.
Obviously,
this
budget
is
balanced,
but
if
I
had
to
use
really
one
word
to
describe
one
one
phrase
really
to
describe
what
I
think
this
budget
represents,
it
would
be
strategic
investments.
E
E
So
we
don't
have
to
make
every
decision
quickly
about
how
to
spend
these
funds
now
number
one.
They
haven't
even
been
deposited
yet
and
number
two.
We
we
still
do
not
know
really
any
of
the
details
as
far
as
how
those
funds
can
be
spent
outside
the
broad
buckets
of
of
of
covid
response,
economic
relief
and
specific
categories
of
infrastructure
listed
as
water
sewer
and
broadband.
E
I
would
say
if
there,
if
there
are
any
federal
funds,
that
we
can
utilize
to
reimburse
ourselves
from
the
dollars
that
we
spend
in
this
budget,
then
the
state
is
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
We
need
to
do
that.
Believe
me,
I
want
to
be
sure
that
we
that
we
retain
every
penny
of
state
funding
back
into
the
general
fund
for
repurposing
next
year
or
the
following
year
that
we
can
possibly
generate
so
jumping
in
here
to
real
quickly.
E
E
If
you
look
at
this
kind
of
as
a
refresh,
this
is
the
the
the
proposed
budget
that
dollars
that
we
had
available
back
in
february
when
we
did
the
original
budget
and
we
were
intentional
not
to
grow
the
recurring
budget
too
quickly.
You'll
notice,
here
as
you've,
seen
the
the
the
imbalance
between
the
recurring
and
the
non-recurring
and
to
be
safe,
and
I
I
I
ask
our
our
director,
I'm
not
sure,
we've
ever
certainly
this
amount
of
dollars
that
we
spent
in
recurring
revenue
on
non-recurring
expenses
to
be
safe.
E
So,
as
you
are
all
aware,
revenues
have
certainly
performed
better
than
any
of
us
expected,
which
is
a
great
thing,
but
we
want
to
be
strategic
about
how
those
dollars
come
into
the
budget
this
this.
This
is
an
interesting
slide.
This
this
goes
into
really
how
those
funds
are
coming
in,
and
I
know
many
of
you
have
probably
seen
some
of
the
presentations
by
dr
fox
over
at
the
boyd
center
at
ut.
E
E
E
E
We
expect
that
this
will
serve
an
additional
300
and
2000
individuals
with
mental
health
promotion,
suicide
prevention,
early
intervention
services
and
direct
clinical
services,
so
we're
happy
to
be
able
to
bring
that
investment
back.
As
you
know,
it
was
originally
proposed
last
year,
also
18.5
additional
investment
in
summer
transportation.
E
This
will
cover
the
cost
of
of
what
you
passed
in
the
special
session
this
this
earlier
this
year.
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
whether
we
thought
that
we
could
cover
that,
but
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution,
we
went
ahead
and
put
these
dollars
in
to
ensure
that
we
had
summer
transportation
for
summer
school
taken
care
of
and
finally
another
2
2
million
that
goes
toward
the
investment
in
the
governor's
early
literacy
foundation.
E
You
know:
access
to
higher
education,
higher
quality
career
and
technical
opportunities
is
of
utmost
importance,
and
so
the
first
thing
we're
looking
at
doing
here
additionally,
is
putting
almost
80
million
dollars
to
work
in
eliminating
the
tcat
wait
list
today.
That
list
stands
at
about
11
000
11,
000
tennesseans,
that
are
waiting
for
the
opportunity
to
further
their
education,
and
we
certainly
should
not
wait
on
the
opportunity
to
afford
them
that
opportunity.
So
this
is,
you
won't
see
the
79.
E
I
know
all
of
you
have
the
the
schedule
or
the
overview
in
front
of
you.
I
believe-
and
so
you
won't
see
an
actual
79
million
dollar
number
on
that.
There's,
there's
really
multiple
line
items
made
up
of
capital,
expenditures
for
renovations
and
things
on
the
buildings,
also
the
need
to
purchase
additional
equipment
as
well
as
bring
on
some
additional
faculty
and
personnel
to
do
that.
E
We've
loaded
into
this
you'll
see
8
million
dollars
approximately
for
personnel,
and
I
want
to
let
you
know
we'll
probably
be
coming
back
next
year
with
an
additional
8
million
in
recurring.
I
know
that
we've
we've
been
very
reluctant
to
add
recurring
dollars
to
this
budget,
but
in
conversations
with
t,
heck
and
tbr,
they've
indicated
that
we
need
16
million
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
get
all
of
those
classes
totally
open
and
available.
E
E
If
you
deem
necessary
or
you
deem,
we
can
do
that
and
finally,
we're
proposing
to
add
to
both
the
ut
and
tsu
agricultural
extension
agents.
I
know
all
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
program,
so
this
is
additional
four
million
dollars.
That
is
for
this
great
program
that
will
enhance
our
agricultural
resources,
including
4-h
and
many
others
that
you're
familiar
with
moving
on
to
safety.
Our
safety
personnel,
as
you
know,
has
worked
tirelessly
over
this
past
year
and
certainly
we
want
to
have
their
backs.
E
It's
our
priority
that
any
existing
units
that
still
have
a
useful
life
going
forward
that
we
would
utilize
those
in
distressed
and
at-risk
counties.
If
you
recall
the
march
2020
tornadoes
destroyed
the
buildings
that
housed
our
switching
center,
which
is
the
tennessee
advanced
communications
network
and
after
doing
the
after
action
assessment.
E
After
that,
they
showed
that
being
able
to
to
put
me
more
geographic
separation
and
more
redundancy
in
those
backup,
centers
would
help
tennessee
to
ensure
faster
responses
and
improved
outcomes
that
will
save
lives,
and
so
we're
also
proposing
the
18
million
dollars
to
do
that.
Next,
the
christmas
day
bombing
furly's
further
solidified
the
need
for
additional
homeland
security
agents.
E
This
has
been
something
that
we've
been
discussing
with
department
of
safety
and
and
we're
glad
to
be
able
to
add
these
additional
positions.
And
then,
lastly,
here
the
governor
is
proposing
to
have
the
department
of
safety
look
at
administering
a
school-aged
children,
firearms
safety
program
that
would
be
available
statewide
across
across
the
state.
E
There
are
three
ecd
projects
on
the
overview
that
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
that
are
coming
up
and
are
close
to
being
able
to
close
the
deal
that
we're
requesting
additional
fast
track.
Funding
for
ecd
obviously
has
been
working
hard
on
these
and
we'll
be
able
to
share
additional
information
soon,
but
we
there's
there's
approximately
10
000
new
jobs
associated
with
these
three
additional
funding
requests.
E
E
We
agree
that
preservation
of
our
historic
buildings
across
tennessee
help
us
to
show
the
critical
stories
of
our
state
rather
than
tax
credits,
as
originally
proposed
we're
proposing
a
five
million
dollar
program
that
will
have
a
non-recurring
investment
beyond
that
for
four
years.
That
will
provide
grants
to
assist
the
development
of
of
these
historic
projects,
we're
also
proposing
to
add
non-recurring
funds
to
the
sbir
program.
E
I
know
we
we
talked
about
that
when
we
were
here
before
this
is
an
additional
4
million
over
the
launch,
tennessee
recurring
dollars
that
were
already
in
the
budget
and
continue
to
be
also.
We
know
from
recent
analysis,
coordinated
by
tdot
that
aviation
contributes
11
to
tennessee's
gdp
on
an
annual
basis
and
to
better
support
this
economic
engine,
we're
also
wanting
to
provide
an
additional
three
million
dollars
into
recurring
dollars
for
our
airports
around
the
state.
E
E
E
As
we
look
at
the
next
next
slide,
I've
only
got
a
couple.
More
here
is
looking
at
tax
relief.
The
governor
feels
strongly
that
the
best
way
we
can
make
the
best
investment
we
can
make
in
tennessee
is
allowing
tennesseans
to
be
able
to
keep
more
of
the
hard-earned
dollars
that
that
they
have
earned,
and
so
we're
proposing
a
two-week
sales
tax
holiday
on
all
grocery
sales
purchases
at
restaurants,
as
well
as
prepared
food.
So
so
you'll
see
this.
E
Taxpayers
in
tennessee
tennesseans
are
still
hurting,
and
we
know
that
our
hospitality
industry
across
the
state
was
disproportionately
affected
by
the
pandemic
and
accounted
for
the
highest
levels
of
economic
losses,
as
I
described
before,
and
so
so.
We
think
that
this
will
make
a
huge
difference
to
put
some
money
back
in
the
in
the
hands
of
tennesseans
across
the
state.
We're
also
proposing
a
25
reduction
in
the
professional
privilege
tax
that
will
result
in
moving
from
four
hundred
dollars
per
person
to
three
hundred
dollars.
E
E
We
anticipate
that
we'll
continue
to
receive
more
dollars,
and
we
anticipate
that
when
you
look
into
22.
Of
course,
this
does
not
show
the
dollars
that
we're
talking
about
today
that
will
be
coming
into
the
state,
and
so
when
we're
we're
sitting
here
next
year
that
that
bar
will
be
significantly
higher
than
it
is
now.
E
E
We
need
to
limit
our
recurring
spending
since
we
do
not
know
the
sources
and
available
funds
that
we'll
have
in
the
coming
year-
and
you
know
this,
as
I
said-
represents
growing
tennessee,
not
not
growing
government
through
strategic
one-time
investments,
and
I
think
that's
the
right
way
to
do
that.
I
feel
I
feel
I
very
much
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you
today
and
we
will
now
entertain
any
any
questions
that
you
have.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
There's
a
lot
of
information
here
and
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
I'll
take
the
prerogative
of
just
asking
the
first
one
on
the.
I
guess
it's
the
fifth
slide.
When
we
talk
about
the
agency
reversions,
that's,
as
you
mentioned,
that's
a
little
more
than
twice
the
normal
amount.
Can
you
tell
us
just
a
little
more
detail
about
what
agency
subs
are
coming
from?
Is
it
across
the
board
or
just
give
us
a
little
more
detail
on?
E
E
I
mean
what
what
you're
seeing
here
is
is
is
normal
reversion,
but
because
of
being
able
to
cover
covid
and
and
because
of
the
funds
that
we
were
able
to
pull
back
because
of
the
hiring
freeze
and
other
things
last
year
that
we
saved,
then
agencies
were
able
to
revert
more
than
normal.
How
would
you
add
to
that
today.
C
E
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
lady,
commissioner,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
thurman.
I
want
to
go
back
to
your
your
original
comments.
You
started
with
3.8
billion
dollars
and
I
don't
want
to
sound
too
dramatic,
but
how
sweet
the
sound
of
3.8
billion
dollars
that
will
be
appropriated
to
the
state
of
tennessee,
so
the
tennessee
taxpayers
can
receive
some
of
those
dollars
back.
C
Chair
second
question:
I'm
assuming
and
hoping
that
the
governor
lee's
administration,
along
with
our
congressional
delegations
and
our
u.s
senators,
are
talking
with
the
biden
administrations
on
how
we
can
use
those
dollars
would
be
great
if
we
could
use
those
dollars.
The
way
we
see
fit
so
is
that
conversation
ongoing.
E
E
They
are
scheduled
to
begin
to
get
the
funding
out
to
the
the
cities
and
counties
in
the
coming
weeks
in
in
may
as
early
as
may,
and
so
we're
certainly
hoping
that
we
get
some
indication
from
them
as
to
what
that
funding
can
be
spent
on.
But
we
do
think
there
will
be
strings
attached
to
that,
and
so
we
we
we
do,
expect
to
hear
more
on
that
soon,
as
well
as
that's
over
and
above
that,
2.3
is
over
and
above
the
3.8
that
you're
talking
about
that.
C
C
E
Yeah,
I
c
I
can't
speak
to
those.
I
know
you
may
you
may
want
to
to
discuss
further
with
commissioner
roth
these.
These
are
three
ongoing
projects
that
they
have
been
working
on
this
year
and
they
are
coming
to
conclusion
and
successfully
and
and
so
these
are
additional
dollars
beyond
what
we
have
advanced
so
far
or
not
to
them,
but
that
have
budgeted
so
far
to
be
able
to
close
those
deals.
B
You
know
very
comfortable
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
close
the
deals,
but
you
don't
know
that
until
the
dotted
line
is
signed,
and
so
at
this
point
it
would
jeopardize,
could
jeopardize
projects
to
talk
more
publicly
about
locations
and
who
they
might
be,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
just
something
that
we'll
find
out
in
due
course
as
the
contractor's
actually
signed.
F
C
E
Yeah,
this
is
just
an
expansion
of
existing.
This
is
just
an
expansion
of
existing.
This
is
a
recognition
of
of
really
how
important
this
this
is
to
our
state
and
how
far
behind
we
are
and
trying
to
get
additional
slots,
especially
in
the
rural
areas,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
go
ahead
and
and
give
more
people
an
opportunity
for
those
residencies,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
in
addition
to
anything,
that's
happening
now.
F
Thank
you.
It's
a
really
important
part
of
what
we
do.
We
find
that
studies
show
that
if
somebody
does
the
residency
in
tennessee
they
stay
here
so
yeah
anytime,
we
can
expand
residency
programs
across
the
state
for
physicians.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
that.
So
that's
one
question.
Thank
you.
A
A
E
Dave
will
correct
me
here,
but
but
basically,
what
what
you've
seen
here
in
this
in
these
numbers
is
fully
funding
the
bp
and
we
we
had
a
placeholder
of
20
million.
I
think
in
the
original
budget,
not
knowing
ex
what
the
exact
numbers
were,
and
so
after
after
receiving
those,
the
new
fiscal
note
is
the
8.9,
and
so
this
just
represents
truing
up
to
get
to
the
actual
correct
number
dave
you're,
not.
C
It
dropped
until
we
really
knew
we
didn't
know
when
we
placed
at
the
20
million
dollar
placeholder
what
enrollment
was
going
to
look
like
last
fall,
and
so
we
need
more
data
and
now
that
we
have
that
we're
trueing
up
to
the
fiscal
note
of
the
bill
for
the
whole
harmless
bill.
So
it's
8.9
million
dollars,
so
I'm
taking
out
that
20
million
dollar
non-recurring
cost
increase
completely
and
adding
it
back
the
8.9
and
funded
from
the
cost
increase
thinking
I
don't
need
to
fund
both.
A
No,
that
that's
okay
with
that
one
so,
and
I
know
we
touched
on
it
just
for
a
second,
but
all
the
federal
money,
though,
is-
and
I
know
I've
heard
it
over
and
over
that-
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
direction
as
far
as
what
that
could
be.
What's
the
time
frame,
do
we
have
any
timeline
whatsoever?
When
do
we?
When
do
we
think
those
instructions
will
be
coming
down,
or
is
it
truly
we're
just
simply
in
a
stalemate
waiting
on
the
federal
government
to
decide
yeah.
E
I
mean
we,
we
anticipate
getting
getting
more
information
soon,
but
I
I
also
anticipate
that
information
to
evolve
and
iterate
kind
of
like
you
did.
Hopefully
it
doesn't
11
times
like
it
did
last
time,
but
but
I
think
that
that's
the
reason
I
think
it's
important
and
that
we're
we're
recommending
going
ahead
and
moving
forward
on
some
of
these
important
programs
that
we
can
for
broadband
and
for
local
government,
because
I
think
we
can
figure
out
how
to
how
to
work
out
and
complement
to
make
sure
we're
not
overspending
or
spending
dollars
overlapping.
E
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
good
good
question.
As
you
know,
so
before
the
pandemic
happened
last
year,
we'd
proposed
200
million
that
was
very
similar
to
what
we're
proposing
this
year,
which
is
those
funds
be
spended.
We've
got
about
six
categories
of
infrastructure,
related
non-recurring
kind
of
expenditures
that
those
dollars
can
be
spent
on,
and
so
that
was
the
way
we
started
a
year
ago
and
then
during
the
pandemic,
we
went
away
from
that
and
said
just
here's
here
are
the
dollars.
E
Y'all
y'all
spend
them
this
year
because
of
all
the
the
other
funding
that
is
available,
we're
we're
kind
of
going
back
to
where
we
were
a
year
ago,
but
the
the
provisions
that
we're
asking
for
any
city
or
county
can
meet
from
the
standpoint
of
what
they
can
use.
Those
dollars
for
they'll
all
have
the
ability
to
fully
utilize
those
dollars
and
they'll
be
used
on
non-recurring
type
of
infrastructure
related
type
of
expenses.
E
What
we
are,
what
we
are
talking
about,
chair
chairman,
is
waiting
until
january,
so
that
we
can
receive
that
information
from
the
feds
as
to
what
they
are
going
to
allow
their
dollars
to
be
spent
for
and
then
that'll
allow
us
to
inform
what
what
we
utilize
that
we
can
work
with
them
on
that
to
make
sure
we're
not
overlapping
and
using
the
dollars
for
the
same
thing.
So
we
think
we
think
that's
a
good
plan.
A
B
Thank
and
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
bep
question
just
for
a
minute
and
follow
up
with
something
that
chairman
hicks
had
asked.
Maybe
I
missed
something,
but
I
think
there's
70
million
dollars
that
was
set
aside
for
growth
and
that's
those
are
recurring
dollars
that
we
keep
there
to
make
sure
that
we
can
cover
growth
in
in
our
districts
across
the
state.
B
C
So
I'm
not
doing
that
in
this
amendment,
because
one,
you
know
we're
not
sure
how
enrollment's
gonna
you
know
how
much
of
those
students
are
gonna
come
back
next
year,
they're
being
held
back
quickly
in
the
you
know,
kindergarten.
So
I'm
assuming
I'm
gonna
need
that
cost
increase
in
23
and
rather
than
trying
to
have
a
really
large
cost
increase
next
year,
I'm
going
to
leave
it
there
and
fund
the
non-occurring
hold
harmless
from
that
from
that
cost
increase.
H
E
H
Gentlemen,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
your
work.
I
appreciate
this
and
I
know
it's
a
it's.
A
very
tactical
endeavor
that
we
go
through.
Tell
me
a
bit
on
slide
number
seven,
that
you've
got
commissioner
and
mr
thurman
elimination,
elimination
of
the
tcat
waiting
list.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
79
million
investment
in
that
tell
me
what
kind
of
time
frame
we're
looking
at.
I
think
that
you
mentioned
eight
million
dollars
for
personnel
in
year,
one
of
22
and
then
eight
million
dollar
follow-up.
Ask
in
recurring
funds
for
23.
H
E
Well,
that's
a
great
question
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
absolutely
be
sprinting,
in
my
opinion,
to
get
to
get
this
done.
If
we,
if
we
got
if
we've
got
people
who
are
waiting
to
to
get
this
training
and
we've
got
jobs
waiting
for
them
in
many
cases,
then
we
need
to
get
that
done
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
in
our
conversations
with
t
heck
and
with
tbr,
they
are
very
keen
on
this
because,
obviously
they
they
they
love
to
get
this
moving,
and
so
they're
they're.
E
Proceeding
with
the
planning
part
of
doing
this,
they'll
be
waiting
on
the
funds
to
hit
july
the
first
but,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
this
depends
upon
getting
the
space
required
and
it
depends
on
having
the
equipment
required.
If
we're
adding
10
more
slots
for
welders,
then
then
we
need
that
equipment
to
be
able
to
to
do
that,
and
so
we
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
lag
time
between
hiring
the
people
to
teach
and
being
able
to
get
those
other
two
things
taken
care
of.
E
But
I
I
anticipate
that
we
will
make
a
a
big
dent
into
the
11
000
this
year.
I
don't
I
don't
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
say
that
we'll
we'll
eliminate
the
whole
list
in
one
year,
because
I
think
that's
too
fast
they've
already
told
us
that
they
they
anticipate,
that
we'll
need
an
additional
eight
million,
as
I
said
next
year,
to
be
able
to
continue
to
hire
additional
people
to
be
able
to
teach
those
classes.
E
And
so
so
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
one
two
year
process,
and
hopefully,
if
we're
successful,
we've
got
another
whole
group
of
people
coming
behind
that
11
that
are
going
to
be
trying
to
get
in
so
so
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
ever
reach
zero,
because
we
want
you
know
more
and
more
people
to
continue
to
to
come
into
the
process.
H
And
thank
you
just
to
follow
up
and
thank
you
for
building
out
that
infrastructure
tcat.
I
think
that's
critically
important
to
make
the
next
generation
successful.
So
I
appreciate
that-
and
we
don't
want
interest
to
wayne
over
the
next
12
months,
24
months
as
we
get
those
folks
through
second
item
on
that
particular
slide
there,
the
25
million
dollars
to
transfer
from
the
lottery
funds
to
tennessee
promise.
H
What
is
the
source
of
those
funds
and
the
reason
I
ask
we
have
we've-
got
a
piece
of
legislation
that
we
take
the
online
sports
betting
dollars,
which
we're
still
not
at
a
full
year,
we're
just
at
four
months.
In
terms
of
that,
are
we
looking
at
the
macro
tennessee
lottery
funds?
Are
we
looking
at
the
online
gaming?
H
E
Recognition,
this
is
not
the
online
sports
because,
since
it
just
came
into
into
fruition,
we
we've
been
very
cautious
about
making
sure
that
we
didn't
dedicate
or
allocate
until
we
really
understood
what
that
looked
like.
So
this
this
will
be
out
of
the
original
lottery
funds
and
we,
we
feel
comfortable
being
able
to
do
that
and
again.
This
is
just
this.
Just
gets
us
further
along
for
being
sustainable
self-sustainable
in
in
that
effort,.
H
Question
and
in
some
other
commentary
commentary,
as
as
many
of
my
colleagues
are
just
giddy
about
the
3.8
billion
dollars
of
federal
funds
that
are
coming
down.
When
are
we
going
to
be
asked
to
to
bail
out
the
federal
government
as
a
state
of
tennessee
that
needs
to
give
us?
We
need
to
pause
as
as
we're
looking
at
these
dollars.
H
This
is
this.
Is
this?
Is
monopoly
money
we're
playing
with
house
money
right
now
as
we
look
forward,
so
I
I
appreciate
the
the
the
fiscal
restraint
that
we're
using
in
in
recognizing
recurring
versus
non-recurring
dollars,
but
at
some
point
in
time
we've
got
to
pay
the
piper.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
Thank
you
man,
I'm
chairman,
commissioner,
thank
you
in
a
year
that
there
is
a
large
surplus
because
of
the
one
and
a
half
billion
dollars
that
we
cut
last
year.
I
think
that
gets
forgotten,
sometimes
that
we
working
with
you
all
in
team
effort
last
year,
assumed
that
there
would
be
no
growth
and
in
fact,
I
think
you
know
many
of
our
conversations.
I
But
for
the
past
year
a
lot
of
families
have
not
been
able
to
do
and
to
do
that,
tax-free
is
a
big
deal,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that.
I
also
really
appreciate
appreciate
the
investment
in
our
distressed
counties
and
and
and
specifically
the
ag
extension
agents
that
we're
adding
in
there,
because
those
distressed
counties
many
times
are
operating
with
two
agents
that
it
takes
three
to
get
the
mission
done
and
that's
both
for
tsu
and
for
ut
and
and
it
just
it
will
make
a
big
difference
in
those
communities.
I
Last
thing
I'll
mention
is
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
firearms
training.
You
know
we
we
recently
had
a
you
know,
lengthy
debate
on
the
floor
about
firearms,
and
I
think
both
republicans
and
democrats
alike
agreed
that
we
need
to
incentivize
folks
to
get
training.
We
have
a
state
in
which
there
are
a
lot
of
firearms
and
folks
exercise
their
second
amendment
rights,
but
with
that
comes
a
responsibility
and
to
incentivize
training
and
especially
young
people.
I
Just
this
week
we
had
a
horrible
horrible,
tragic
loss
of
life
by
a
young
person
who
put
themselves
in
a
in
a
situation
where
they
lost
their
life,
and
it
happens
far
too
often
and
to
understand
the
gravity
of
a
firearm
and
how
to
properly
use
that
firearm
is
critical
so
that
our
state
can
be
safer.
So
I
know
it's
only
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
a
multi-billion
dollar
budget,
but
I
think
it
sets
the
right
tone
going
forward.
I
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
the
intense
focus
on
non-recurring
expenses
here,
because
I
hope
next
year
will
be
even
better
than
this
year,
but
we
never
know
so.
Commissioner,
just
thank
you,
and
I
want
to
mention
a
couple
of
things
that
appear
to
be
in
this.
That
are
a
really
good
conservative
way
to
budget.
B
G
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
your
presentation
and
all
the
hard
work
you've
put
into
this
budget
and
this
supplemental
to
the
budget.
I
want
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
my
colleague
that
talked
about
the
amount
of
money
that
we've
given
back
to
our
constituents
via
the
tax
holiday
concept
and
program,
but
also
to
the
non-profits.
That's
doing
a
lot
of
the
work.
That's
working
with
our
constituents,
that's
giving
them
the
wrap-around
services
that
they
need
that's
helping
to
move
our
state
forward.
G
G
B
G
Camper
yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you,
you
still
want
to
have
the
level
of
transparency
that
we
have
with
the
cares
dollars
and
other
funds
that
that
came
down.
But
my
question
is
around
the
bill
that
we're
going
to
pass.
Will
it
authorize
you
to
use
those
funds
or
will
we
have
to
wait
and
come
back
with
a
general
assembly
to
to
act
on.
C
So
there's
there's
nothing
new
in
the
appropriation
bill
to
address
this.
These
new
dollars
that
are
coming
to
us
we're
going
to
use
the
existing
authority
that
we
have
for
expansion
process,
which
I
think
we're
going
to
talk
about
after
this
hearing
and
that
that
allows
you
know
as
opportunities
or
we
learn
more
about
those
federal
funds
to
bring
them
to
you
for
review
and
approval
through
the
expansion
process.
That's
already
already
in
the
appropriation
bill.
G
I
appreciate
that
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
inclusive
in
our
thoughts
around
how
we
spend
the
money
and
that
you
know
both
sides
of
the
aisle
and
all
leadership
will
be
at
the
table.
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
make
sure
on
the
record
that
that
we,
that
that's
our
plan
and
and
and
I
understand
the
expansion
process,
so
that's
a
good
thing.
A
second
question
manager,
I'm.
G
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
yes,
I
mean
this
there's
this.
The
details
have
not
been
worked
out,
but
I
I
think
it
our
our
vision
is
to
include
everyone.
That's
currently
involved
in
making
sure-
and
there
needs
to
be
a
process,
worked
out
on
on
how
those
slots
are
filled,
but
I,
but
certainly
nobody
is
excluded.
B
E
Yeah
all
right,
I
think
it's
zero
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
zero.
So
there's
no
none
of
these.
So
so
we've
got
the
largest
capital
project
proposal,
but
none
of
none
of
those
are
proposed
to
to
utilize
debt
for
for
these
projects,
and
so
so
so
we'll
we'll
actually
be
going
backwards
because,
as
you
recall
from
our
conversations
last
year
we
had
about
300
and
or
so
million
of
projects
that
we
did
bond
last
year,
so
so
we'll
be
reducing.
Actually
the
debt
service
related
in
this
budget.
C
E
The
only
thing
that's
changed
is
that
we
are,
we
are
receiving
less
dollars
in
the
gas
tax
because,
mostly
because
of
efficiency
in
the
gas
tax
and
less
less
travel
a
little
bit
this
year,
and
so
so
you've
got
a
little
bit
less
of
those
gas
tax
dollars
coming
in
which
does
minimally
impact,
but
but
does
impact
those
improve
act,
projects
that
the
d.o.t
is
working
on.
Okay,.
C
E
I'm
gonna,
let
I'm
gonna.
Let
dave
respond
to
that,
but
I'm
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
this
slide
at
the
end
and
I
would
kind
of
go
back
to
20
and
and
and
say
that
that's
that
percentage
of
the
budget
would
be
pretty
typical,
because
it's
those
those
were
the
funds
that
were
coming
in
prior
to
the
pandemic
in
a
normal
budget
year.
E
A
Commissioner,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and,
and
david
and
administration,
for
you
know
the
the
tcat
we've
got
one
in
repton
bond
in
my
district
and
the
mental
health
area
and
just
criminal
justice
reform.
So
so
many
areas
I
could
compliment
you,
but
one
specifically
is
men
of
valor.
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
I
think
it's
an
investment.
A
A
Thank
you,
lady
chair,
and
thank
you,
commissioner.
My
question
has
to
do
with.
I
think
it's
item
number
73
e
on
the
sports
authority
for
the
county
of
knoxville
in
the
city
of
knoxville.
I
think
about
it's
13.5
million
for
a
stadium
baseball.
I
think
it's
on
the
administration
budget
amendment
overview.
E
A
So
73
on
mine,
it's
the
miscellaneous,
appropriate
appropriations,
grants
and
community
initiatives
yeah.
My
question
is,
I
think,
the
way
that
this
works
and
it
could
be
wrong,
but
by
the
way,
I'm
from
east
tennessee
and
I'm
glad
of
any
innovative
works
that
comes
there,
but
I'm
wondering
about
the
sports
authority
and
exactly
how
that
the
money
is
recovered.
E
No
sir,
I
I
know
what
you're
talking
about
now.
It
is
in
73,
it's
just
down,
so
here's
here's
the
way
that
worked
what
what
has
been
proposed.
This
is
what
I
was
alluding
to
earlier
when
we
talk
about
tourist
development
zones
or
any
any
kind
of
these
carve-outs
where
we
are
taking
existing
sales
tax
that
are
owed
to
the
state
of
tennessee
and
we
carve
those
off
and
say
the
state
of
tennessee
is
not
going
to
get
these.
E
They
were
not
in
addition
to,
they
were
the
regular
sales
tax
dollars
that
we
would
normally
collect.
If
anybody
went
to
a
restaurant
in
that
area
or
at
the
at
the
stadium
and
and
it
would
allow
it
now-
grants
knox
to
be
able
to
get
13.5
million
dollars
to
be
able
to
utilize
for
their
effort
in
building
a
stadium
that
will
accomplish
the
same
thing.
E
So
what
we're
basically
doing
is
supplementing
a
grant
of
13.5
for
the
revenue
stream
of
the
sales
tax
for
a
30
year
period
of
time
that
that
we
would
divert
to
the
city
of
knoxville
or
in
the
county
of
knox,
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
sports
authority
to
accomplish
the
same
thing,
so
it
allows
us
as
a
state
to
be
able
to
know
day
one.
This
is
this
is
what
we're
putting
into
this.
This
allows
them
the
ability
to
go
and
accomplish
this,
and
I,
I
really
believe
it's
a
win-win
for
everybody.
A
E
So
rather
whether
we're
dealing
with
a
certain
grant
amount
of
13.5
or
whether
we're
dealing
as
we
have
before,
with
a
sales
tax
diversion
for
a
number
of
years.
That
goes
into
that.
Then
we
certainly
believe-
and
I
think
it's
been
the
case
in
most
in
most
cases,
where
the
benefit
to
the
state's
been
greater
than
the
original
dollars
that
we
put
in.
So
I
do
think
there's
a
return
on
investment
for
doing
that.
A
G
E
I
think
that
it
depends.
It
depends
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
about
these.
These
deals,
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
that
I'm
suggesting
we
do
it.
The
way
that
I'm
talking
about
with
a
grant
versus
a
sales
tax
diversion
is,
it
all
depends
on
what
happens
on
that
site.
So
in
this
case,
you've
got
the
stadium
and
you've
got
the
area
around
the
stadium.
E
That
would
have
received
the
the
benefit
of
that
two
2.75
percent
of
sales
tax
diversion
and
if
you
put
a
a
hotel,
if
you
put
a
number
of
restaurants,
if
you
put
a
a
grocery
store,
all
of
that
mix
of
what
happens
there
will
determine
ultimately
what
what
we,
what
we
the
state
ends
up
receiving
as
a
result
of
that,
and
so
you
know
we're
sitting
here
today,
and
so
we
have
to
make
our
best
calculation
using
our
work.
Is
commissioner
gerrigano
here
still
commission,
I
mean
we've.
E
A
Thank
you,
lady
chair,
so
the
investment
and-
and
I
don't
I
don't
understand-
all
of
the
sports
authority,
so
I'm
certainly
not
an
expert
on
it.
But
if
I
could
say
it
this
way,
it's
it's
in
a
grant.
It's
kind
of
front
loading
it
and
giving
the
money
up
front
instead
of
the
sports
authority
receiving
the
money
later
went
ahead
and
given
them
the
13.5
and
then
hope
over
a
30-year
period.
That
you'll
regain
that
through
tax
revenues.
Is
that
correct.
E
I
think
that's
a
great
way
of
putting
it.
I
think
it's
a
great
way
of
putting
it.
It
guarantees
they
know
from
day
one
that
they
can.
They
can
make
the
deal
work,
not
knowing
what
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
future.
We
can,
we
can
take
we
we
can
take
the
long
look
and
say
we
think
this.
This
is
the
dollar
amount.
That
we
think
is
is
a
is
a
fair
amount
that
allows
them
to
move
forward,
but
it
doesn't
give
up
the
state's
sales
tax
in
perpetuity.
B
J
B
B
It's
a
good
way
to
go
about
it.
I've
got
a
question
on
item
35
of
the
the
schedule
for
either
one
of
you.
It
says
a
fast
track
project
and
you're
spending,
35
million,
but
it
says
it's
65
million
total
commitment
so
help
me
understand
that
total
commitment,
if
we
already
paid
part
of
it,
are
we
going
to
pay
the
other
30
in
future
years.
Yeah.
E
B
B
B
So
just
you
know
again
something
for
consideration
and
something
that
is
obviously
I've
been
very
clear
about
it.
It's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
and
I
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
have.
Hopefully
some
more
discussion
about,
and
particularly,
I
might
also
mention
that
I
think
77
of
that
professional
privilege.
B
Tax
is
actually
paid
by
people
from
out
of
state,
so
we're
giving
out
of
state
folks
a
tax
break
and
we're
not
paying
the
folks
who
are
taking
care
of
the
most
vulnerable
tennesseans
at
a
level
that
that
they
can
live
on.
So
that's
my
soapbox
for
today.
I
thank
you
again
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
being
patient
with
our
questions
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work.
That's
that's
gone
into
this
and
that
will
continue
to
go
into
it
as
we
work
through
to
the
final
product.
So
thank
you
so
much.
E
Let
me
let
me
say
one
last
thing
and
I
appreciate
your
comments,
chair
and,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
each
one
of
you
have
put
into
this
this
this
budget,
and
I
know
that
you've
been
working
closely
with
your
districts
and
it's
been
a
difficult
year
for
for
everyone,
and
so
I
just
very
much
appreciate
the
relationship
and
the
collaborative
effort
that
we
have
here
on
this
budget.
Thank
you
very
much
chairman.
B
And
I'd
like
to
thank
you
two
for
being
very
open
for
listening
to
me,
preach
many
off-site
occasions
and
for
your
openness
to
hearing.
You
know
our
concerns
individually
and
collectively
from
this
committee,
and
I
think
the
process
has
gone
well
to
date
and
I
have
high
hopes
that
we'll
continue
and
and
we'll
get
this
done.
I
have
a
deadline,
but
yes,.
C
B
J
Greg
turner,
fna
budget
office
and
I
think
there
are
five
expansions
that
are
currently
sitting
with
your
committee-
that
there's
not
been
any
action
on
so
far.
I
haven't
been
reviewed,
so
I
don't
know
if
you'd
like
me
to
go
over
each
of
those
or
if
there
are
specific
questions
that
you
have.
We
also
have
agency
personnel
here
as
well
that
can
answer
any
questions
that
I
am
not
able
or
prepared
to
answer
as
well.
B
I
think
in
the
interest
of
time,
if
you
could
give
us
an
overview
of
those
outstanding
requests,
then,
and
then
we'll
take
questions
from
the
committee
members
and
we'll
ask
committee
if
you
would
to
hold
your
questions
to
the
end,
just
jot
them
down.
So
you
don't
forget
them.
If
you
have
a
question
about
one
of
the
earlier
expansion
requests,
so
mr
turner,
okay,.
J
J
Then
expansion
number
eight
with
the
district
attorney's
general
conference.
This
is
a
grant
from
the
tennessee
highway
safety
office
and
it
would
provide
two
positions:
each
for
four
distinct
judicial
car
judicial
districts
across
the
state.
That
would
be
the
third
judicial
district,
the
12th
judicial
district,
the
28th
and
the
29th,
and.
J
J
J
J
Yeah,
I
think,
the
next
one
environment
conservation-
this
is
expansion
of
federal
revenue.
This
does
include
two
full-time
positions:
one
recreational
services,
specialists
and
then
one
grants
analyst,
and
this
funding
would
be
used
to
provide
grants
to
local
governments
for
the
acquisition
and
development
of
public
outdoor
recreation
areas
and
facilities.
And
this
is
a
recurring
expansion.
J
B
A
J
C
E
A
E
C
J
K
Thank
you,
jonathan
scrametti,
chief
deputy
attorney
general.
My
understanding
is
the
project.
Guardian
money
will
be
used
to
enforce
primarily
18,
usc,
922
and
924.
These
are
the
federal
statutes
that
deal
with
the
use
of
firearms
during
a
violent
or
drug
crime
or
the
possession
of
a
firearm
by
a
convicted
felon.
C
K
It
will
go
to
the
attorney
general's
office
and
be
expended,
but
it's
to
hire
somebody
who's
detailed
to
the
u.s
attorney's
office,
so
they'll
be
in
federal
court
in
the
u.s
attorney's
office.
Prosecuting
crimes
alongside
the
other
federal
prosecutors,
technically
they'll
be
a
state
attorney,
but
functionally
they'll
be
working
with
the
federal
government.
We
received
a
request
from
the
u.s
attorney
to
help
out
with
that.
K
So
I
believe,
and
I
used
to
be
a
federal
prosecutor-
it's
been
a
while
since
I've
used
these,
but
I
believe
18
usc
922
is
oriented
towards
felons
in
possession
of
firearms.
So
if
you're
a
convicted
felon,
you
can't
have
a
firearm,
and
so
there
are
federal
penalties
that
attach
to
a
felon
who
has
a
firearm
and
then
924
deals
with
a
variety
of
uses
of
a
firearm
and
a
board
explosive
device
in
a
crime.
B
B
B
I
B
B
A
You,
madam
chair,
this
bill,
concerns
the
tennessee
state,
fair,
the
tennessee
state,
fair
and
exposition
commission
recently
recommended
to
governor
lee
the
tennessee
state.
Fair,
should
move
to
the
wilson
county
fairgrounds.
The
governor
has
put
5
million
in
the
original
budget
this
year
and
that
this
does
the
paperwork
to
make
it
happen
without
I'll
answer.
Any
questions.
B
B
D
Be
happy
to
it
makes
a
change
to
section
seven.
It
changed
the
word
evidence-based,
risk-based
assessment
to
validated
assessment.
It
also
changes
section,
24
and
25,
and
clarifies
that
zero
tolerance,
violation
defined
by
tdoc
matrix
are
not
subject
to
the
shock
incarceration.
The
judge
has
the
ability
to
immediately
revoke
the
probation.
This
is
a
topic.
That's
come
up
in
just
about
every
committee
we've
been
in
and
this
mirrors
the
amendment
that
was
adopted
in
the
senate.
B
D
Be
happy
to
thank
you
so
much
members.
This
is
what's
known
as
we're
calling
the
alternatives
to
incarceration
bills.
So
just
generally,
we
all
know
somebody
with
a
mental
health
or
substance
abuse
disorder
that
when
they
slip
up
they
wind
up
in
county
jail,
and
it's
this
endless
cycle
we're
we're
all
familiar
with
with
folks
like
that
in
our
communities-
and
you
know,
I've
got
relatives
that
are
in
that
cycle.
D
I'm
sure
many
of
you
do
as
well,
and
so
this
bill
is
an
acknowledgement
of
the
fact
that
we
know
that
county
jail
is
not
the
best
place
for
folks
with
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
issues.
Sure
if
they
commit
a
violent
crime
they
cross
that
line,
then
you
know,
god
help
them
and
and
the
system
will
have
to
meet
them
out
the
way
they
do.
D
But
but
if
we've
got
somebody
who
can
truly
benefit
from
a
drug
court
or
rehab
or
diversion
program,
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
crowding
our
jails
with
folks
who
are
simply
addicted
or
have
mental
health
issues.
So
those
are
some
broad
strokes,
but
that's
that's
what
this
bill
does.
What
I
like
to
say
about
drug
court
is
the
only
thing
wrong
with
it
is
there's
not
enough
of
it.
So
we've
seen
those
veterans,
courts,
work,
we've
seen
those
safe
baby
courts
work
we've
seen
those
drug
courts
work.
B
B
D
Certainly,
this
amendment
makes
changes
to
section
nine.
It
brings
the
parole
board
time
between
hearings
from
ten
to
six,
except
for
an
offender
serving
multiple
convictions
for
first-degree,
murder,
murder
or
facilitation
of
first-degree
murder,
in
which
case
the
parole
board
has
the
ability
to
extend
up
to
10
years.
B
All
right,
you've
heard
the
explanation
of
amendment
zero,
zero.
Six,
eight
two
eight
are
there
questions
on
the
amendment,
seeing
none
you're
voting
on
the
amendment
zero
to
zero,
six,
eight
two
being
attached
to
house
bill
785,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
eyes
have
it
thank.
B
D
B
All
right,
you've
heard
the
explanation:
are
there
questions
seeing
none
we're
voting
on
amendment
two
drafting
code:
zero,
zero,
six,
eight,
seven,
four!
All
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
drafting
code,
zero,
zero,
six,
eight
seven
four
goes
on
the
bill,
and
now
chairman
curcio.
If
you
would
like
to
add
any
additional
explanation
for
the
bill
as
amended.
Yes,.
D
D
B
B
B
K
K
B
E
B
F
And
thank
you,
madam
chairman,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
Essentially
what
this
bill
does
is
extends
the
executive
order,
17
allowing
our
struggling
hospitality
businesses
to
sell
alcohol
with
the
purchases
of
food.
If
that
alcohol
is
provided
having
a
lid
and
not
a
bottle
of
liquor,
it
requires
license
selling
alcohol
beverages
to
go
with
food
to
collect
and
remit
the
liquor
by
the
drink
tax,
which
explains
the
huge
fiscal
note,
positive
physical
note
and
authorizes
the
customers
to
take
home
an
unfinished
bottle
of
wine
that
is
partially
consumed
at
the
restaurant.
H
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we're
going
to
have
a
need
for
more
agents
who
are
stressed
right
now
to
get
the
job
done
that
they
need
to
so
I'm.
I
guess
I
put
the
plea
to
this
committee
as
we
have
the
discussion
going
forward
about
the
budget
document
that
we
look
at
the
potential
need
for
agents
associated
with
this
legislation.
I
know
that
as
fiscal
review
reviewed
the
legislation,
they
did
not
see
a
need
for
any
new
agents
for
the
abc
that
that's
a
discussion
that
we
can
have
later
on
as
we
discussed
the
budget.
H
B
I
I
It's
just
a
very
dangerous
proposition.
Now
I
will
say
you
know.
The
executive
orders
have
done
that
for
the
past
year
roughly,
and
I
think
the
the
restaurant
folks
will
tell
you
that
that
has
worked
out
very
well
for
them.
I
am
very
glad
to
see
that
this
bill
has
a
specific
deadline
on
when
it
will
end.
I
I
think
it's
a
two-year
kind
of
experiment
to
see
if
they
can
utilize
this
power,
that
we
are
allowing
them
to
have
to
sell
to
go
alcohol
wisely,
and
I
would
ask
them
to
please
please
understand
that
this
is
something
we'll
be
watching
very,
very
closely
and
hopefully
will
not
turn
out
in
a
negative
way.
But
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill.
I
know
it
is
something
that
the
restaurant
industry
specifically
very
much
needs
because
they've
had
a
rough
year,
but
I
do
have
some
concerns
just
about
the
implementation.
I
F
They
actually
wrote
the
amendments
that's
rolled
into
the
bill
and
that
helped
us
make
a
good
bill
out
of
it,
and
we've
discussed
that
issue.
They
haven't
added
agents
since
2013,
and
so
you
know,
with
wine
in
the
grocery
store
and
different
things
they
they
have
always
had
that
need,
and
so
we
feel
like
this
may
be
an
avenue
to
renew
our
motion.
F
Thank
you
not
a
question.
I
do
think
it's
really
important
to
to
for
the
members
to
know
that
this
is
a
project
or
a
a
bill
which
sunsets
in
two
years.
I
think
it's
important
that
it
be
said
that
that
is
the
case
and
that
we'd
have
to
we'd
have
to
have
further
action
from
this
legislative
body
and
that
this
is
an
extension
of
what
we've
occurred.
What
has
occurred
during
covet
over
the
last
year,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
for
the
record
set
up.