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House Health Subcommittee - January 25, 2022 - House Hearing Room 2
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Thank
you,
madam
clerk,
and
we
have
some
new
faces
in
here
today.
No
new
members,
but
we
want
to
welcome
rajul
bijay,
our
new
attorney
and
we
want
to
welcome
back
matt
king
has
come
over
from
the
senate
to
to
illuminate
us
in
in
some
form.
We
want
to
thank
our
sergeant-at-arms
johnny
mcdonald.
We
appreciate
you
being
here.
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Leader
hawk,
we
have
proper
motion
second
on
the
bill,
and
my
understanding
is
that
it
has
an
amendment
that
makes
the
bill
so
to
get
in
the
proper
posture.
We
will
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
amendment
have
proper
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment.
If
you
would
like
to
discuss
the
amendment
with
us.
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Thank
you
chairman
and
members.
The
the
amendment
drafting
code
zero
one
one,
three,
zero
zero,
just
to
ensure
we're
the
same,
and
this
is
similar
language
to
what
the
senate
passed.
Last
year.
We
ran
out
of
time
in
session
last
year
to
create
just
a
simple
reporting
mechanism
where
department
of
human
services
is
going
to
report
to
an
existing
report.
What
they're
doing
with
tanf
in
terms
of
dollar
spent
to
what
purpose
of
tanf
so
simply
done.
It's
it's
something.
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So
we're
back
on
the
bill
as
amended.
There
has
been
some
discussion
on
it,
certainly
not
from
a
a
I
guess,
a
position
of
of
opposition,
but
we're
we're
fortunate
today
to
have
marcia,
mcshane
and
and
taylor
alef
from
ayla
from
the
department
of
human
services
and
we've
had
some
lengthy
discussions
about
about
this
bill.
The
the
understanding
was
that
that
the
information
that
you
have
asked
for
came
from
a
a
special
committee.
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So
I
I
had
asked
them
to
be
available
and
if,
if
there
are
no
objections,
I
I
wanted
them
just
to
give
us
a
answer.
A
couple
of
questions
about
where
this
program
is
going,
so
that
we
will
be
informed-
and
I
think
this
is
these-
are
issues
that
weren't
brought
up
in
their
presentation
to
the
full
committee.
But
we're
going
to
have
some
questions
pop
up
and-
and
so
this
is
certainly
not
in
opposition
in
any
way.
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We're
out
of
session
and
the
when
we
discuss
the
issues
in
here
last
year
we
passed
a
tanf
opportunity
act
and
that's
that's
in
the
process
of
being
of
going
forward
and
and
the
state
the
statute
demands
that
tanf
funds
will
be
used
for
the
initiative
as
such
it
will.
It
will
include
in
the
reporting
requirements
that
we
that
we
see
reflected
in
this
bill,
and
what
I'd
like
to
ask
of
you
is:
can
you
give
us
a
brief
update
on
the
tanf
opportunity
act.
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I'm
not
going
to
bore
you
all
with
all
of
that
again
I'll
be
brief,
but
we
have
awarded
planning
grants
to
17
different
collaborative
groups
that
are
led
by
a
lead
organization
that
fits
into
one
of
the
categories.
Again.
There's
lots
of
detailed
information
on
the
website
and
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
in
an
email
to
anyone
that
wants
to
read
more
about
that.
They
are
in
their
90-day
planning
process.
At
this
point,
so
that
will
is
coming
to
an
end.
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Sure,
well,
some
of
the
pandemic
funding
that
has
ended.
It
doesn't
directly
relate
to
tanf.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
For
example,
we
had
child
care
assistance
for
essential
workers
and
that
ran
through
the
end
of
august
that
took
our
standard
number
of
applications
from
about
14,
000
or
not.
Applications.
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Excuse
me
family
served
from
about
14
000
a
year
to
about
60
000
a
year,
so
we
had
a
big
uptick
in
the
number
of
customers,
those
individuals
who
didn't
normally
receive
child
care
assistance
received
it
for
you
know
almost
that
two-year
period
and
that's
something
that
families
get
used
to
receiving
and
then
they
get
comfortable
with
whatever
child
care
facility
they
have
their
their
child
at.
For
that
reason,
when
that
ended,
the
pandemic
related
benefits
ended.
We
did
definitely
have
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
our
smart
steps
application.
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That's
our
regular
child
care
assistance
that
has
caused
a
backlog
that
we
are
working
on,
we're
working
with
an
outside
contractor
hustling
through
those
as
quickly
as
we
can.
We
sent
all
of
you
talking
points
previously
and
again,
we'll
be
happy
to
send
those
again
to
help
you
navigate
any
questions
you
have
and
you're
always
welcome
to
reach
out
to
us
about
that
as
well.
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We
have
family
affairs
ministries,
martha
o'brien
center
goodwill,
industries
of
middle
tennessee,
upper
cumberland
human
resource
agency
and
persevere,
east
tennessee
city
of
chattanooga,
first
things:
first,
knoxville,
community
development,
corporation
united
way
of
greater
knoxville.
First
tennessee
developmental
district,
and
then
we
have
a
couple:
statewide
grantees
boys
and
girls
club
tennessee
alliance
for
legal
services,
east
tennessee,
human
resource
agency
and
the
good
news
is
with
all
of
these
folks.
So
far
we
have
reach
into
every
county
in
the
state.
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Further
comments
or
questions
I
I
will
say
that
there
was
some
discrepancy
because
of
the
time
frame
with
the
senate.
We
will
let
the
senate
worry
about
making
that
minor
technical
adjustment,
and
so,
if
there's
no
more
questions
or
comments,
we
will
be
calling
to
for
a
vote
to
send
us
on
the
full
committee,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposition
so
approved.
Thank
you,
chairman
members,
so
much.
Thank
you.
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Relearning
you're
recognized
on
the
amount-
let's
go
ahead
and
put
the
amendment
on
the
bill,
any
opposition
to
voting
on
the
amendment.
If
none
we'll
be
voting
all
those
in
favor
of
amending
the
bill,
as
stated
say,
aye,
any
opposition
so
approved
we're
back
on
the
bill.
As
amended.
You're
welcome
to
describe
the
bill.
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Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee
house.
Bill
959
will
allow
tennessee
to
join
in
the
process
of
forming
an
interstate
compact
alliance
in
allowing
licensed
professional
counselors
to
practice
in
all
states
that
join
the
compact.
This
route
will
remove
the
need
for
counselors
to
obtain
a
separate
license
in
each
state
in
which
they
want
to
practice,
received
the
letter
and
shared
it
with
the
chairman
from
the
assistant
secretary
of
defense
and
I'd
like
just
to
read
a
small
portion
of
that.
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This
interstate
combat
compact
alleviates
licensing
issues
affecting
our
service
members
and
their
families,
and
is
considered
by
the
department
of
defense
top
10
personnel
and
readiness
issues
facing
our
soldiers
and
service
members.
The
compact
is
is
constitutionally
authorized
legally
binding
document
between
states.
This
compact
is
the
same
form
as
the
nurse
licensure
compact,
the
ems
compact
that
we're
currently
under
the
physical
therapy
compact
and
the
interstate
medical
licensure
compact.
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Why
should
tennessee
join
this
compact?
A
few
benefits
include
increasing
job
opportunities,
professional
for
professional
counselors,
supporting
military
spouse,
edu
relocation
and
education,
enhanced
mobility
for
licensed,
counselors
and
all
especially
important
to
our
state,
which
is
currently
short
of
mental
health
providers.
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What
the
compact
does
not
do,
there's
no
significant
physical
impact
on
our
state
or
licensing
board.
The
compact
enhances
the
authority
of
the
state
to
protect
the
public
and
properly
regulate
the
profession
and
leaves
states
specific
licensure
requirements
in
place,
and
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I
renew
my
motion.
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You're
recognized,
I'm
not
familiar
where
we
are
right
yet
on
this,
but
this
will
give
our
state
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
that
process
to
become
part
of
that
compact
and
if
they
get
a
license,
that's
u.s
wide
will
tennessee
not
get
the
money
that
they're
getting
now
for
the
ones
that
we
license
here
in
tennessee
chairman
woodson
again.
Are
you
talking
about?
Will
we
require
a
fee
to
to
practice
here
in
tennessee?
I'm
not
sure
on
that.
Mr
chairman
I'll
have
to
check
on
that.
Okay.
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But,
as
I
understand
mr
sponsor
of
the
bill,
every
state
to
participate
has
to
have
passed
this
identical
legislation.
There
can't
be
any
admin,
admin,
amended
versions
and
so
that
we're
guaranteeing
the
quality
of
the
licensure
to
be
the
same
in
every
state.
Is
that
your
understanding,
sir
chairman
woodson,.
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Yes,
representative
smith,
that's
a
good
question.
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
If
you
watched
the
testimony
in
the
senate,
this
was
also
addressed
and
the
senate
testimony
and
the
sponsor
of
that
says
this
will
this
by
joining
the
compact,
we
do
not
give
up
our
authority
and
requirements
for
the
state
of
tennessee.
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His
name
is
dr
a.j,
reed
of
finland,
a.j
reed,
finlayson
and
his
hometown
is
in
nashville,
especially
t
is
addiction,
psychiatry,
education
and
training,
university
of
ontario
psychiatry,
residence,
mcmaster,
university
and
addiction,
medicine
and
mcmaster
university.
So
we
appreciate
him
extending
himself,
even
though
he
had
some
emergencies
and
couldn't
be
here.
So
we
have
further
comments.
Questions,
if
not
I'll
stand
for
a
motion
to
adjourn.