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House Local Government Committee- April 12, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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D
You,
mr
chair,
good
morning
committee
in
2020,
we
we
passed
an
airbnb
airbnb
bill
that
made
some
mistakes.
The
way
this
bill
is
now
currently
amended
its
attempt
to
fix
those
mistakes
and
I'll
just
tell
you
briefly
what
it
is.
The
original
intended
legislation
2020
was
to
allow
for
a
person
to
transfer
their
property
and
maintain
a
grandfather's,
short-term
rental
permit.
In
the
following
three
instances,
I
transfer
one
spouse
to
the
other
I
transfer
as
a
result
of
divorce
or
transfer
from
an
owner
to
a
trust
or
from
a
trust
back
to
the
original
owner.
D
As
the
current
law
stands,
the
above
three
instances
are
the
only
time
when
someone
loses
their
grandfather's
status,
making
other
types
of
transfers
lawful.
This
has
caused
people
to
lose
their
grandfather
protection
because
they
in
good
faith,
transfer
their
property
and
now
are
being
told
they
have
to
cease
to
operate.
D
The
amendment
makes
clear
that
only
in
these
three
instances
listed
above
may,
a
person
transfer
their
property
and
retain
their
grandfather
status.
Then.
Finally,
section
two
of
the
new
section
is
the
law
to
create
a
one-year
window
for
anyone
who
has
lost
their
grandfather
status
in
the
past
as
a
result
of
our
drafting
mistake
in
2020
and
that's
what
bill
does.
C
You've
heard
the
explanation
of
the
sponsor
on
the
bill
as
amended,
we
do
have
a
speaker
that
we
need
to
hear
from
without
objection,
we'll
go
out
of
session
and
hear
from
them
out
of
session.
Will
kayla
anderson?
Will
you
please
come
to
the
table?
Please
identify
yourself
and
who
you're
with,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
F
For
the
past
three
years,
my
colleagues
and
I
have
been
researching
the
impact
of
short-term
rentals
on
davidson
county
and
began
our
work
by
examining
previous
studies
on
the
topic
from
across
the
nation
and
the
world
as
a
whole.
These
studies
conclude
that
increases
in
short-term
rentals
within
cities
and
neighborhoods
have
exacerbated
housing
shortages
disrupted
community
cohesion
and
dramatically
changed
the
character
of
neighborhoods.
F
Furthermore,
residents
within
these
communities
have
experienced
an
increased
sense
of
isolation,
alienation
and
unfamiliarity
with
places
that
they
call
home.
Southern
culture
prides
itself
on
a
sense
of
hospitality,
friendliness
and
community.
However,
unrestricted
short-term
rentals
risk
this
identity
and
way
of
life,
the
rise
of
short-term
rentals
has
been
shown
to
increase
transient
populations
in
residential
neighborhoods,
exacerbate
rental
prices
and
decrease
the
number
of
housing
units
available
to
residents
often
time
this
results
in
the
displacement
of
long-term
residents
residents,
who
not
only
call
these
places
home
but
have
invested
socially,
economically,
politically
and
spiritually.
F
Those
who
are
able
to
remain
in
those
communities
face
a
different
set
of
challenges,
something
that
academics
have
coined
indirect
displacement.
Indirect
displacement
does
not
remove
residents
from
their
neighborhood,
but
instead
changes
the
physical
and
social
landscape
beyond
recognition.
This
continues
to
threaten
the
core
of
the
so-called
southern
way
of
life.
F
After
examining
the
previous
literature,
we
turned
our
attention
to
exploring
the
impact
of
short-term
rentals
on
davidson
county.
As
of
2021.
There
is
over
6
500
short-term
rentals
within
the
county
of
these
short-term
rentals
10
were
non-owner,
10
were
not
owner-occupied,
34
were
owner,
occupied
and
55
were
multi-family.
F
F
This
is
important
considering
that
roughly
46
percent
of
davidson
county
households
and
34
percent
of
tennessee
households
are
renters
when
conducting
our
analyses.
We
also
found
three
important
impacts
of
short-term
rentals.
First
increases
in
short-term
rentals,
particularly
in
multi-family
units
such
as
apartments
are
associated
with
increased
median
rent
over
time.
Madam.
A
A
F
So
we
focused
most
of
our
research
on
davidson
county
due
to
access
of
short-term
rental
data.
It
was
the
only
county
that
we
found
that
keeps
the
permits
that
was
easily
acceptable
through
open
access.
However,
with
an
increase,
we
have
found
that
increases
in
short-term
rentals
tend
to
occur
within
those
areas
where
there
are
higher
number
of
renters,
which
tends
to
increase
the
median
rental
prices,
especially
those
who
pay
30
to
34
percent
of
their
income,
which
is
house
housing
burden,
their
cost
burden.
F
A
Williams,
do
you
consider
in
your
study,
the
impact
of
having
institutions
of
higher
learning
and
the
nature
of
them
being
transient,
as
it
relates
to
your
data?
For
instance,
you
have
tennessee
state,
you
have
belmont,
you
have
lipscomb
university
all
within
a
five
mile
radius
of
each
other.
The
question
is:
is
do
do
your
numbers
take
into
consideration
or
separate
those
because
they
are
transient
or
are
they
lumped
into
that
percentage?
Mrs.
F
They
are
lumped
into
that
percentage
residents
who
or
college
students
tend
to
be
in
communities
for
four
years,
and
so
they
are
less
transient
residents
who
are
populations
who
are
coming
in
for
just
a
weekend
or
a
week,
and
so
it
has
a
different
effect.
That
is
definitely
something
that
we
would
be
interested
in
exploring
further,
but
based
off
of
data.
It's
really
hard
to
delineate
what
is
a
resident
versus
a
college
student
who
could
also
be
considered
a
resident.
A
A
F
Have
not,
but
our
research
has
shown
that
non-owner
occupied
rentals,
which
would
include
those
that
are
continuing
to
be
grandfathered
in,
would
exacerbate
all
the
different
things
that
I
shared.
So
by
allowing
those
to
continue.
It
would
continue
to
cause
all
the
problems
that
we
have
seen
in
our
research.
A
F
We
did
not
consider
it
in
our
current
research,
but
we
have
seen
or
from
different
previous
research
that
property
rights
also
include
the
people
who
live
next
door,
so
individuals
who
may
own
houses
next
to
short-term
rentals
also
have
the
right
to
be
able
to
live
without
the
disruptions
that
short-term
rentals
may
cause
and
also
rental.
Renters,
though
they
do
not
have
property
rights,
which
is
another
issue.
They
are
also
negatively
impacted
by
this,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
by
what
you
are
saying.
A
Yeah,
that
would
be
the
case
ma'am
if
we
weren't
taking
away
the
property
owner's
rights
of
the
person
who
purchased
that
property.
So
what
you're?
What
you're
suggesting
is
is
that
everyone
else
has
property
owners
rights,
except
for
the
person
who
wishes
to
have
a
short-term
rental
on
their
property,
even
though
they
were
permitting
permitted
to
do
it
before.
F
So
we
are
not
attempting
to
do
to
get
rid
of
all
short-term
rentals.
That
is
not
the
goal.
New
orleans
is
an
excellent
case
study
of
how
they
approach
this
topic.
They
have
looked
to
regulate
apartment
buildings
that
have
been
completely
turned
in
to
short-term
rentals.
They
have
also
been
looking
to
regulate,
non-owner
occupied
non-owner
occupied
means
the
res
the
owner
does
not
live
on
the
property.
F
We
are
not
trying
to
take
away
the
rights
of
those
who
want
to
rent
out
a
room,
rent
out
a
basement
or
rent
out
like
a
detached,
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
that
is
on
their
property.
So
the
goal
is
not
to
completely
strip
the
individual
of
their
property
rights,
but
to
regulate
it
in
order
for
the
betterment
of
the
rest
of
the
community.
D
Faison,
thank
you,
mr
chair
and
general
from
shelby
county
know.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
deregulating
and
taking
authority
away
from
the
local
municipalities.
What
this
is
doing
is
the
people
who
originally
owned
short-term
rental
and
they
transferred
to
their
wife,
their
spouse,
or
to
a
trust
or
back
from
a
trust
to
them.
This
allows
them
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
reapply
for
their
permit
that
they
originally
had
that's
it.
E
E
C
D
This
three
things
to
transfer
from
one
spouse
to
the
other:
a
transfer
as
a
result
of
a
divorce
to
transfer
from
an
owner
to
a
trust
or
from
a
trust
back
to
origin
owner.
So
there
people
that
are
related
or
that
went
to
a
private
trust
and
back
and
forth
from
a
private
trust
back
to
the
person.
But
yes
in
the
family,.
B
The
transfer
money
from
legal,
the
transfer
provision
relating
to
trust,
says
that
transfer
by
transfer
of
real
estate
to
a
revocable,
living,
trust
or
or
attendance
by
the
entirety,
trust
created
by
the
same
transfer
or
by
a
spouse
of
the
transfer
or
transfers
by
the
trustee
of
a
revocable
living,
trust
or
attendance
by
the
entirety,
trust
back
to
the
same
transfer
or
to
the
transfer
spouse.
So
I
think
it
is
yes
between
spouses.
C
B
C
B
G
D
G
We
we
know
that
there's
one
bad
actor
across
the
state
of
tennessee
in
the
airbnb
business
and,
of
course,
thanks
to
the
voucher
bill,
we
can
no
longer
make
it
apply
to
just
one
area,
so
it
has
to
be
a
broad
stroke
across
the
state.
So
got
just
a
couple
of
questions
and
a
couple
of
statements,
if
the
chairman
would
allow
does
this
take
any
authority
away
from
the
local
governments,
except
what
you've
just
stated.
D
C
G
Well,
I'm
glad
I'm
not
going
to
have
to
face
this
anymore
because
as
long
as
nashville's
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
problem,
and
I
won't
be
here
next
year.
It's
been
a
problem
for
10
years
now,
but
let
me
let
me
give
you
my
background.
A
little
bit.
I've
been
real
concerned
about
this.
I
served
20
years
on
the
on
the
run
county
commission
and
I
know
I
understand
about
taking
local
control
away
and
I
don't
like
it,
because
local
government
government
is
best
locally.
G
Now
I
was
one
of
two
people
back
in
the
early
90s
that
voted
against
zoning
roane
county.
None
of
the
citizens
wanted
nobody
except
the
rich
and
powerful,
and
it
has
helped
the
rich
and
powerful
and
hurt
all
the
small
people,
a
farmer
that
wants
to
fix
lawnmower
engines
in
his
spare
time
couldn't
do
that.
G
G
D
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C
D
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C
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
In
my
short
12
years
here
I
have
watched
many,
a
chairman
of
a
full
committee,
get
up
and
and
speak
specifically
what
has
taken
place
with
the
bill
and
historically,
in
my
12
years,
I've
seen
the
members
of
the
house
floor
follow
what
the
chairman's
leading
is
on
a
bill
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
we
will
follow
his
leadings
when
this
bill
gets
there
and
if
it's,
and
if
it's
in
opposition
to
what's
going
on
with
the
senate,
we
will
we
will
yield
to
chairman
crawford.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
leader,
gant
I've.
What
I've
stated
on
record
is
that
I
would
follow
the
leading
of
chairman
crawford
if
this
is
is,
if
what
we,
if,
if
y'all,
allow
me
to
pass
this
out
today,
whatever
his
this
is
that
this
committee
has
adopted.
That
will
be
my
intent
to
happen
on
the
house
floor
at
his
leading
because
he's
the
chair
of
the
full
committee
and
we
would
follow
his
leading
on
the
house
floor.
E
E
C
The
chairman
will
take
privilege
here.
I
spoke
to
chairman
faison
last
night
on
the
house
floor
and
I
asked
him:
would
he
be
willing
to
send
it
back
if
the
senate
version
or
they
changed
it,
and
he
told
me
at
that
time
that
this
become
a
bill
of
the
body
and
he
did
not
feel
like
he
had
the
authority
to
do
that.
At
no
point
have
I
said
I
would
send
it
back
or
that
I
would
do
anything
with
it.
Those
was
your
exact
words
chairman,
so
you
can
answer
that
question.
D
So,
just
to
be
fully
transparent
and
clear,
I
I'll
state
again
whatever,
when,
when
a
person,
when
you
look
at
our
rules
and
a
member
says
I'll,
send
it
back,
you
don't
actually
have
the
authority
to
send
as
a
member
in
the
well
to
send
a
bill
back,
you
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
that,
and
anyone
who
says
they
can
they're
speaking
incorrectly
later
again.
What
I'm
saying
is
I'm,
at
the
will
of
the
body
on
the
house
floor
under
the
leadership
of
the
full
committee
chairman.
D
E
E
E
D
E
Yes,
sir,
because
I
I
was
told
when
it
started
it
was
for
nashville.
I
maybe
somebody
gave
me
the
wrong
information,
but
I
was
told
that
there
was
some
problems
here
in
nashville
that
was
trying
to
get
fixed,
but
it
really
wouldn't
affect
anybody
else.
Although
I
see
one
of
the
members
of
taking
out
his
counties,
but
now
you're
saying
it
is
a
statewide
application.
C
E
C
C
C
C
E
E
C
E
You
chairman,
crawford
in
the
year
2020
the
city
of
murfreesboro,
sold
its
electric
department
to
the
middle
tennessee
electric
membership
corporation
for
an
amount,
including
principal
and
interest
of
a
little
bit
over
300
million
dollars.
This
is
a
bill
that
would
permit
the
city
to
set
up
a
trust
fund.
E
Proceeds
from
this
trust
fund
would
be
used
in
the
following
way.
First,
five
percent
of
the
trust
would
be
drawn
down
every
year.
85
percent
of
that
amount
would
be
allocated
to
the
general
fund
for
the
city,
and
the
remaining
15
percent
would
be
allocated
to
some
combination
of
non-profit
or
non-profit
corp
entities.
This
is
just
a
bill
that
would
permit
the
city
of
murfreesboro
to
set
up
this
trust
fund.
You've.
C
Heard
the
explanation
from
the
sponsor
is
there
any
questions?
Previous
question
has
been
called
we're
ready
to
vote
without
objection
on
house
bill
2903
moving
on,
please
say
I
oppose
no
bill
moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
Item
number
seven
house
bill
2912
by
representative
baum,
you're
recognized.
E
Thank
you
chairman
crawford.
This
is
another
local
bill.
It's
a
bill
to
de
designed
to
enhance
the
oversight
of
juvenile
detention
in
rutherford
county.
What
this
bill
would
do
is
it
would
allow
rutherford
county
to
set
up
a
juvenile
detention
board
that
would
oversee
the
rutherford
county,
juvenile
detention
center,
its
juvenile
inmates
and
the
director.
C
You've
heard
the
explanation
of
the
sponsor,
let
it
be
known
that
I
do
have
a
majority
resolution
of
two-thirds
vote
in
my
office.
If
anybody
needs
to
see
it
from
the
local
governing
body,
is
there
any
questions
for
the
sponsor,
seeing
none
we're
ready
to
vote
on
house
bill
2912
moving
on,
please
say:
aye
opposed
no
bill
moves
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
C
Thank
you
all
that
brings
us
back
to
the
first
item
on
the
today's
calendar
is
house
bill
1201
by
chairman
whitson
proper
motion
and
second
chairman
whitson
will
be
presenting
from
the
table
without
objection.
I
do
see
we
have
some
amendments
we
need
to
take
care
of.
So
I
will
recognize
you
chairman,
whitson,
to
begin
the
process
of
putting
amendments
on
and
discussing
your
bill.
You're
recognized.
H
H
H
It's
my
understanding
that
chairman
williams
has
an
amendment
that
incorporates
most
of
the
amendments
that
I
have
presented
last
year
in
committee
and
have
been
working
on
with
the
members
of
the
body,
and
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I
request
my
amendments
be
rolled
to
the
heel
of
this
bill,
so
we
can
hear
the
the
amendment
that
has
been
filed
by
chairman
williams
to
see
where
we
are
in
the
posture
of
this
legislation.
I
need.
C
A
C
C
A
B
C
A
Thank
you,
chairman
of
members,
colonel
whitson,
representative
whitson.
I
appreciate
you
are
exactly
right.
Last
year
when
this
bill
moved
out
of
election
subcommittee,
you
and
I
worked
diligently
to
try
to
find
something
that
works.
You
are
also
correct
in
saying
that
the
vast
majority
of
members
of
this
body
adhere
to
the
rules,
but
what
this
bill
seeks
to
do,
and
I
think
it
answers
a
lot
of
the
questions.
The
colonel
had
four
amendments
which
he
filed
in
this
committee,
which
we
have
now
rolled
to
the
hill.
A
This
bill
incorporates
two
of
the
additional
amendments
to
do
that
with
the
idea
of
having
one
concise
amendment
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
want
to
say
first
before
I
go
through
a
section
by
section
review
of
the
amendment
thanks
to
colonel
colonel
whitson.
He
one
thing
I
found
out
about
colonel
whitson
over
the
last
15
years,
he's
still
a
military
man
through
and
through.
A
He
sends
me
more
books
that
I
know
how
to
read
about
every
one
of
his
bills,
and
so
I
appreciate
him
in
his
great
effort,
but
this
bill
as
it's
rewritten
and
drafted
now
and
sections
one
through
five.
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
sections
of
it
and
it's
happy
to
answer
the
questions
members
have
and
if
we
get
off
into
the
legal
weeds
a
little
bit,
I
see
the
purple
tide.
Doug
heims
is
here
to
also
help
me
ask
questions
but
sections
one
through
five
of
this
bill.
A
It
requires
meeting
agendas
of
the
registry
of
election
finance
of
tennessee
ethics,
commission
and
the
bureau
of
ethics,
commission
and
campaign
finance
to
be
published
at
least
five
business
days
in
advance
of
meetings.
As
members
know,
we
had.
This
is
a
requirement
that
we
have
to
do
for
all
of
our
local
governments.
This
is
just
a
similar
requirement
that
we're
going
to
request
for
these
three
entities,
and
it
requires
large
registry
and
ethics,
commission,
civil
penalties
or
those
settlements
to
be
approved
in
a
public
meeting.
A
So
currently,
if
they
as
long
as
they're
in
a
public
meeting,
they
can
make
settlements
based
upon
those
civil
suits
that
are
there,
but
if
they
have
to
have,
if
it's
a
large
penalty
that
they
have
to
meet
in
order
to
do
that
section,
six
of
the
bill.
It
removes
the
pac
blackout
period,
which
was
currently
found
unconstitutional
by
the
courts,
and
so
this
just
removes
that
pac
blackout
period,
section
seven
requires
itemization
of
all
expenditures
reported
on
a
long
form.
A
A
This
is
an
enhanced
interim
reporting
for
candidates
and
pacs
of
contribution
and
require
contributions
and
expense
expenditures
received
during
the
last
10
days
of
the
election.
So
this
would
create
another
reporting
report
of
of
those
expenditures.
The
last
10
days,
as
you
know,
vast
majority
of
funds
and
elections
are
spent
in
those
last
10
days,
both
in
a
primary
and
general
election.
This
would
require
additional
reporting
for
those
section.
A
13
extends
the
civil
penalty,
joint
liability
to
candidates
controlling
or
serving
as
officers
of
pacs,
and
it
prohibits
pac
funds
from
being
used
to
pay
assessed
penalties
on
those
packs.
This
is
an
important
change
it'll.
It
requires
treasures
and
treasures
and
the
candidate
them
both
to
be
liable
to
those
civil
penalties,
and
you
can't
use
your
pac
contributions
to
pay
for
those
civil
penalties
you
will
have.
A
If,
if
you
break
the
rules-
and
you
assess
the
civil
penalty,
you
will
pay
those
fees
personally,
in
section
13.,
section
14
requires
candidates
and
pacs
to
keep
campaign
funds
separate
and
segregated
accounts
from
other
funds,
including
including
personal
funds.
This
is
not
currently
stipulated
in
the
code
I
did
find
out.
There
are
a
few
folks
who
still
are
co-mingling
their
personal
resources
with
their
campaign
funds,
and
if
this
bill
passes,
then
that
was
not
will
not
be
possible.
A
Sections
15-19
revises
the
registry
appointment
provisions
and
requires
provisions
concerning
restrictions
on
the
service
of
registry
and
ethics.
Commission
members
and
their
spouses,
section
20,
imposes
enhanced
document
retention
on
candidates
for
audit
purposes
and
requests
that
audit
audited
audits
be
completed
in
odd
number
years.
A
Currently,
members
of
the
cabinet
can
receive
compensation
for
consulting
section
12
in
is
an
enhanced
disclosure
on
single
sources
of
income
of
five
thousand
dollars
or
more
and
requires
disclosure
of
member
controlled
member
controlled
pacs.
Some
of
the
members
have
packs
that
they
have.
They
have
both
a
campaign
and
a
pac
campaign.
This
requires
additional
disclosure,
section
23
and
I'm
more
than
two-thirds
done.
My
apologies
clarifies
that
state
trial
court
judges
file
annual
statement
of
interest
disclosures
with
the
ethics
commission.
A
As
you
know,
judges
are
have
a
different
ethics
standard
than
we
do,
but
this
is
just
a
short
s.
This
was
just
an
oversight,
so
we're
adding
judges
as
it
relates
to
the
statement
of
interest.
Section
24
requires
an
annual
statement
of
interest
disclosed,
be
signed
under
the
penalty
of
perjury.
Currently,
it's
not
a
penalty
of
perjury
to
sign
those
section.
A
25
bans
the
use
of
pre-checked
boxes
as
an
authorization
for
future
campaign
contributions,
so
the
members
or
pacs
will
not
be
able
to
send
a
an
index
card
in
the
mail
with
a
return
stamp
in
there.
That
has
the
box
or
the
monthly
fee,
already
checked
for
them.
Someone
will
have
to
actually
physically
check
the
yet
yes
box.
This
means
that
the
person
is
truly
authorizing
and
someone's
not
pre-authorizing
it
for
them.
Sections
26
through
29,
deals
with
the
advisory
committee.
A
It
adds
two
members
appointed
by
the
advisory
committee
on
open
government
to
the
registry
of
finance.
The
appointees
must
quote,
demonstrated
non-partisan
interest
in
promoting
government
transparency
and
public
accountability
in
the
political
process,
which
is
unquote,
which
is
stated
in
the
language
of
the
bill.
A
Section
30
requires
any
501
c
4
that
spends
at
least
5
000
for
communications
naming
or
showing
the
likeness
of
a
candidate
within
60
days
of
election
to
be
treated
as
a
pac
for
the
purposes
of
filing
an
appointment
of
the
treasury
form
and
reporting
its
expenditures
in
section
30
of
the
bill.
The
it
just
gives
the
effective
dates
are
varied
for
different
sections
of
the
bill
so
to
make
it
not
cumbersome,
as
it
relates
to
those
total
elections.
A
E
A
Williams,
thank
you
chairman.
Yes,
anytime,
you're
in
politics,
you
have
a
tendency
from
your
party
wants
to
send
you
a
mail
asking
you
to
contribute
to
their
campaign.
I
have
received
in
my
mailbox
from
candidates
all
republican.
I
haven't
received
one
from
you,
representative,
yeah,
okay,
but
those
those
those
boxes
come
and
they
have
your
name
and
address,
and
it
says,
do
you
want
to
do
a
an
annual
membership,
a
lifetime
membership
or
whatever,
and
it
already
has
the
box
checked
in
it?
A
H
Yes,
thank
you,
representative
shaw,
exactly
what
he
said.
This
keeps
people
from
unsuspectedly
allowing
a
campaign
to
take
ten
dollars
out
every
month
forever
and
ever
and
ever
it
just.
It
does
not
allow
that
this
is
only
for
state
elections
only
understand
the
federal
government
is
also
working
on
that
to
prevent
abuse
of
particularly
elders,
who
do
not
understand
they
want
to
make
a
contribution.
A
A
Okay,
currently,
when
you
do
a
state
statement
of
interest,
when
we
do
our
statements
of
interest
which,
for
the
members,
if
you
haven't
done
stu
on
friday,
the
the
statement
of
interest
going
forward,
which
is
why
we
have
the
alternate
date,
if
you
receive
a
single
source
of
income,
that's
more
than
five
thousand
dollars.
You'd
have
to
report
it
on
your
statement
of
interest.
A
Chairman
williams,
it's
my
understanding
that
you
would
have
to
do
that.
Yes,
sir,
so
if
you
work
for,
if
you
work
for
x
insurance
company,
I
want
to
try
to
keep
things
out
if
you
work
for
ex
insurance
company
and
you
get
a
check
from
them,
you're
going
to
put
that
there
if
you
get
if
you're
writing
insurance
for
10
other
insurance
companies,
that
you're
writing
policies
for
those
other
10.
E
A
A
H
Yeah
to
answer
your
questions
as
a
result,
under
this
assisting
law
reporting
officials
who
own
businesses
that
provide
services
to
clients
in
excess
of
a
thousand
dollars
are
permitted
to
simply
report
the
name
of
the
company
they
own
as
a
source
of
income
rather
than
the
actual
names
of
those
providing
the
income.
So
what
this
would
do
say
I
have
a
a
consulting
company
on
the
side.
H
H
Federal
officials
have
to
do
that
now,
secretary
of
defense,
secretary
of
the
army,
but
also
this
is
to
make
sure,
and
if
you're
a
doctor,
that's
privileged,
you
don't
have
to
report
it.
If
you're
a
lawyer,
that's
privileged,
you
don't
have
to
report
it.
It's
just
so
sources
of
income
over
five
thousand
dollars
that
you
have
to
report
that
you
receive
this.
The
real
intent
is
to
make
sure
members
of
our
general
assembly,
the
governor's
staff
commissioners.
If
they
have
a
business
on
the
side
and
they're
doing
business
with
clients,
they
can
influence
legislation.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It's
great
to
be
here
with
you
all
today.
I
have
a
question
for
legal
in
this
because
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
about
what
this
bill
would
do,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
their
interpretation
on
what
this
bill
actually
does
and
doesn't,
though,
so
to
the
to
our
legal
expert
on
the
committee.
B
You
recognize
thank
you
matt
monday
from
legal,
mr
speaker,
thanks
for
the
question
this
in
no
way
prohibits,
restricts
or
limits
the
ability
of
a
501c4
or
any
other
entity
from
engaging
in
speech.
Advertising
mailers
commercials.
Anything
like
that.
There
there
are,
in
my
personal
view,
nothing
that
chills
free
speech.
When
it
comes
to
501
c
4s.
I
A
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
As
many
of
the
body
in
this
committee
may
know,
last
year
I
was
able
to
carry
a
501c
bill
or
501
bill
which
preserved
the
the
privacy
of
501cs
as
related
to
their
contributors,
and
this
bill
in
no
way
prevents
those
contributors
or
or
requires
that
those
contributors,
names
and
information
regarding
them
regarding
501cs
be
released.
All
it
states
that
it
allows
a
level.
A
I
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
then
to
follow
up
on
that
there's
also
misinformation
put
out
that
they
would
have
to
be
treated
like
a
pack,
but
what
this
bill
does
is
require
them
through
the
registry
to
list
their
expenditures
only
and
not
their
contributions
on
any
of
those
forms
after
they
spend
five
thousand
dollars
within
a
60-day
window
of
a
campaign.
Is
that
accurate,
chairman
williams?
Yes
speaker,
that
is
correct.
Thank
you,
members.
I
I
I
There
could
be
contributions
coming
in
there
could
be
expenditures
coming
in
or
going
out,
and
so
what
this
bill
does
mirror.
What's
going
on
at
the
federal
level
within
the
last
10
days
of
a
campaign,
instead
of
hiding
your
expenditures
or
hiding
these
contributions
and
holding
off
and
not
being
transparent,
all
this
does
is
say
you
can
continue
to
receive
those
contributions.
You
can
pay
for
those
tv
ads
or
whatever
you
want
to
do
in
the
last
10
days.
You
just
have
to
report
it.
I
This
bill
is
nothing
more
than
a
mechanism
to
report
and
disclose
to
provide
transparency
and
accountability,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
on
the
registry.
All
those
people
are
politically
appointed
either
by
the
caucuses
by
the
governor.
The
two
speakers,
which
is
fine
but
adding
in
two
people
from
the
open
government
side
to
be
the
watchdogs
and
the
overseer,
gives
us
an
added
protection
of
making
sure
that
that
board's,
not
political,
because
if
someone
breaks
the
law,
then
they
need
to
be
held
accountable
and
the
other
thing
that
this
bill
does.
I
I
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
this
really
does
is
provide
transparency
and
accountability
on
a
lot
of
people
and
unfortunately,
sometimes
you
have
to
go
through
bad
things
to
bring
things
to
the
light,
and
so
what
this
bill
is
attempt
to
do
is
not
to
harm
anybody,
but
to
allow
tennesseans
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
money
is
spent
and
making
sure
that
anything
in
the
dark
now
comes
in
to
the
light.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
B
B
I
admire
everything
you've
done,
but
especially
when
it
comes
to
this,
so
many
calls
and
so
many
emails,
and
I'm
like
what
am
I
missing
because
in
my
opinion
it
is
about
transparency
and
I
would
go
back
and
read
it
and
read
it
and
I'm
like
what
is
it
that
I'm
missing
and
I
found
that
a
very.
I
don't
think
we
received
one
call
or
email
from
knox
county
or
specifically
district
18..
B
It
was
more
special
interest
groups,
you
know,
and
they
were
just
they
were
just
overwhelming.
So
I'm
saying
all
of
that
to
say:
I
wholeheartedly
support
this
piece
of
legislation.
I
can
see
it
doing
nothing
but
bringing
transparency
to
the
process,
so
I
will
be
in
total
favor
and
again.
I
am
grateful
for
everything
you've
done
for
the
state
of
tennessee
and
thank
you
for
being
a
true
friend
to
me.
B
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
thank
you,
the
speaker
and
chairman
williams,
for
clarification
and
understanding,
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
501c4s,
but
through
this
transparency
will
the
individual
pacts
or
organizations
those
that
come
under
the
501c4
when
they
declare
who
they
are.
What
would
that
include
names
addresses
phone
numbers.
C
B
E
E
Finally,
the
caller
just
simply
said
well,
even
if
it
doesn't,
I
don't
like
the
bill,
so
I
think
that's
where
we
are
we're
trying
to
report
and
be
transparent,
which
I
think
we
should
be
and
I'm
in
support
of
your
legislation,
but
I
think
it's
just
some
folks
out
there
just
don't
like
the
bill
but
I'll
be
voting.
Yes,
thank
you.
H
Thank
you
and
again
it's
changes
stuff
on
folks.
They
don't
fully
understand
the
contents.
It
is
a
comprehensive
bill,
there's
a
lot
of
sections
to
this,
but
it
it
will
make
us
a
better
body
up
here.
If
we
adopt
this
and
also
it
will
keep
the
public
informed,
especially
within
the
60
days
prior
to
election.
I
can
give
you
an
example:
we
have
a
a
election
coming
up
on
may
3rd,
a
county
election
already,
some
501
c4s
are
involved
in
that
election
and
putting
information
out
on
social
media.
H
Promoting
the
good
deeds
of
a
candidate,
501
c
force
cannot
say,
vote
for
or
vote
against
an
individual,
but
they
can
put
out
information,
and
they
can
still
do
that.
This
the
whole
time
the
chairman
williams
and
I
were
working
on
this.
They
never
entered
a
thought
that
us
that
we
would
prohibit
them
from
doing
what
they're
doing
now,
and
so
with
that,
it's
just
a
disclosure
requirement.