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House Local Government Committee- April 5, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Good
afternoon,
everyone
today
is
tuesday
april
the
5th
welcome
to
full
local
government
committee.
We
have
about
13
bills
on
our
agenda
and
some
of
them
we
may
not
get
to,
and
some
we
will.
So.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
at
this
time
I'll
call
the
committee
to
order
and
have
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
D
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
representative
manus
is
excused.
Does
any
of
the
members
have
any
personal
orders
or
announcements
representative
hodges.
D
E
B
B
Item
number
two
today
on
our
agenda
is
house
bill:
zero.
Six,
four
five
by
chairman
faison
without
objection,
they'll
be
rolled
to
the
call
of
the
chair.
B
B
Nine,
that
is
correct,
got
a
proper
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment
leader,
kemper
you're,
recognized
on
your
amendment.
I
do
see
it
rewrites
the
bill.
Would
you
like
for
us
to
place
that
on
the
bill?
Yes,
mr
chairman,
all
right
without
objection.
All
in
favor
of
amendment
number
16389
going
on
the
bill,
please
say
aye
opposed.
No.
B
The
amendment
is
now
on
the
bill
leader,
kemper
you're,
recognized
on
your
bills
amended.
Thank
you,
mr.
F
Chairman
members,
mr
chairman
members,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
working
with
me
on
this
bill
last
week.
I
was
here
trying
to
get
the
language
exactly
in
a
position
where
members
could
agree
to
allow
the
local
election
commission
a
permissive
action.
What
this
would
do
would
allow
county
election
commissions
to
designate
a
restaurant
facility
in
the
building
in
which
an
election
is
being
held
for
campaign
workers
to
go
to
work.
It's
completely
permissive,
the
language
says:
may
it's
not
a
mandatory.
B
The
question
has
been
called
on
the
bill.
I
guess
we're
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
house
bill
2842,
please
say
aye
opposed.
No,
no
have
it
your
bill
fails.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
member
item
number
four
on
today's
agenda
house
bill
2489
by
chairman
dixie.
B
B
Okay,
I
do
see
that
this
amendment
is
untimely,
so
we
will
not
be
accepting
that
amendment.
You
will
have
to
run
your
bill
on
the
merits
of
where
it
stands.
Do
you
still
want
to
run
amendment
16393?
B
Yes,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
amendment
going
on
the
bill,
please
say
aye
opposed.
No.
Your
bill
is
now
amended.
Chairman
dixie
you're,
recognized
on
your
bill.
24.89.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
chairman,
just
a
parliamentary
inquiry.
In
reference
to
the
first
amendment
untimely
amendment,
do
we
have
an
opportunity
to
vote
the
untimely
amendment
up
or
down?
I
know
in
some
committees
we
do
that.
I
didn't
know
if
it
was.
If
we
did
it
in
this
commitment.
B
G
Thank
you
very
much,
chairman
and
committee.
I'm
excited
to
speak
with
you
about
this
student
tennessee
student
voter
act,
because,
although
I'm
technically
the
sponsor
of
the
bill,
the
real
sponsors
were
high
school
students
that
first
approached
my
office
about
this
legislation
last
fall,
which
we
met
them
earlier.
In
fact,
although
they
won't
be
speaking,
some
of
them
are
here
this
morning
which
they
were
introduced
earlier,
and
I
understand
there
are
others
watching
from
their
classrooms.
G
They
did
the
research
on
our
voter
registration
and
turnout
numbers
and
reviewed
our
laws
in
comparison
to
other
states.
They
came
up
with
build
language
and
even
built
a
website
to
help
spread
awareness
about
the
work
they're
doing
they
were
here
last
week
to
testify
to
present
the
amended
bill
to
the
election
subcommittee
as
amended.
The
tennessee
voter
act
would
simply
require
all
high
school
high
schools
to
inform
each
high
school
senior
that
upon
reaching
the
age
of
18,
the
student
may
be
eligible
to
vote
and
provide
them
with
information
about
voter
eligibility.
G
I
I
If
we
miss
somebody,
are
we
going
to
leave
ourselves
open
for
a
lawsuit,
we
will
miss
somebody
or
we
won't,
and
I
think
that
maybe
this
is
repetitive
since
the
tennessee
secretary
of
state's
already
doing
it-
and
I
just
don't
know
if
we
can
fulfill
this
and
get
everything
right
and
get
it
right
and
of
course,
it's
going
to
cost
the
locals
some
money.
I
don't
know
if
it's
anything
in
the
budget
or
not,
but
I
don't
like
to
price
an
unfunded
mandate
too.
Can
you
answer
to
those
questions,
please,
chairman
dixie.
G
Mr
chairman,
first
of
all,
it's
it's,
it
costs
no
money.
There's
no
fiscal
note
attached
to
this.
So.
H
G
No
local
mandate,
there's
no
unfunded
mandate.
Number
one
number:
two:
the
bill
states
seniors
only
seniors
that
are
involved
in
this,
and
some
schools
are
already
providing
this
information
to
students,
but
we
know
not
all
of
them
are
this
legislation
ensures
that
all
tennessee
high
school
seniors
understand
who
is
eligible
to
vote
when
they
can
vote
how
to
do
it,
and
additionally,
it
would
ensure
that
the
information
provided
is
accurate,
unbiased
and
aligned.
With
the
secretary
of
state's
goals
for
student
registration,
voter
registration.
I
Chairman
carr,
okay,
then
I
guess
back
to
my
and
I
know
I
put
two
three
different
things
there
to
my
one
question:
I'm
18
I'm
eligible
to
vote
they're
up
there
taking
votes,
but
I
don't
get
the
opportunity
because
I'm
not
a
senior
is
that
correct.
Is
that
why
the
bill
reads?
It's
just
for
seniors,
chairman
dixie.
G
This
bill
allows
seniors
to
to
vote.
I
mean
to
be
notified,
they're
already
notifying.
If
you
are
voting
age
in
high
school,
if
you're
18,
there
is
a
procedure
where
they're
doing
it
already.
This
is
another
tool
in
the
tool
box
to
make
sure
that
no
one
is
left
behind
for
those
students
who
may
be
turning
18
after
the
election
but
are
still
in
school.
This
allows
them
to
understand
how
to
register
to
vote
where
they
can
register
to
vote
and
when
to
to
register,
to
vote.
G
I
I
E
E
So
I
appreciate
the
students
who
had
the
wherewithal
and
thoughtfulness
to
think
about
how
impactful
it
could
be
to
register
to
direct
not
directly
but
to
let
students
know
they
can
register
to
vote
and
in
fact
they
want
to
help
spread
the
news
among
their
colleagues.
So
thank
you
for
not
only
bringing
the
bill
but
also
allowing
these
students
to
engage
in
the
process
of
helping
to
shape
policy
in
our
state.
Thank
you.
G
Yes,
my
mic
was
turned
off
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
representative
love
for
for
those
comments,
but
this
these
students
worked
really
hard
on
this,
and
this
is
not
something
they
just
started.
This
particular
year,
they've
been
working
on
this
for
a
couple
of
years,
like
I
said
before,
they
even
had
a
website
to
try
to
gain
support
for
their
bill,
and
this
is
also
I
fell
into
that
category,
that
you
did.
G
I
didn't
we
were
not
of
means,
so
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
money
to
come
back
home
to
just
register
to
vote,
so
I
had
to
stay
there
until
I
got
a
chance
to
come
back
home
for
the
summer,
so
these
kids
have
worked
really
hard.
It's
very
important
that
we
engage
our
young
people
in
democracy
early
in
the
process
and
make
them
feel
a
part
of
the
process.
So
they
understand,
because
this
is
their
future.
G
J
J
We
we
just
got
through
going
through
a
robust
conversation
in
my
office,
and
so
the
timing
of
this
committee
worked
out
well,
so
they
could
be
with
us
and
see
how
we
work
here
in
the
committee,
mr
chairman,
and
so
I'm
proud
to
have
these
guys
and
girls
up
here
and
they've
got
a
bright
future
ahead
of
them.
So
so,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
being
here.
Hope.
Y'all
have
a
great
day.
K
Thank
you.
I
had
a
quick
question,
I'm
and
maybe
relate
to
you
real.
The
I
thought
that
our
schools
could
register
could
fill
out
the
application
to
register
prior
to
their
18th
birthday.
I
think
my
kids
have
done
that.
Does
that?
Does
that
not
happen
in
your
school?
Or
can
you
answer
that
question
me
chairman,
dixie.
G
If
you
turn
in
18
within
the
six
months
of
the
election,
but
school
will
not
be
in
so,
let's
say:
if
you're
turning
18
over
the
summer
and
the
school's,
not
in
but
the
election's
in
november,
then
you
can.
They
will
allow
you
to
register
to
vote.
But
that's
the
question
here:
that's
why
these
students
saw
a
need.
It
wasn't
happening
on
a
regular
basis
at
their
school
and
it's
not
a
blanket.
It's
not
it's
not
a
requirement
of
where
it's
done
equally
across
the
state.
Some
schools
are
doing
it.
G
Some
are
not
so
we
want
to
just
ensure,
like
I
said
earlier,
just
another
tool
in
the
toolbox
to
make
sure
that
no
one
slips
through
the
cracks
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
at
least
know
how
to
register,
to
vote
where
to
register,
to
vote
and
about
any
supplemental
registration.
Voter
registrations.
K
Chairman
williams,
those
that
do
is
it
through
the
local
election
administrator
that
does
it
or
is
it
like
your
bill
states
through
the
department
of
edge
or
through
the
education
system
through
the
local,
lea.
K
I
guess
they
don't,
and
I
I
support
your
bill,
I'm
just
a
little
bit
confused.
That
are
you
concerned
at
all
that
if
your
bill
passes
that
the
local
election,
those
that
are
done
by
the
local
election
administration,
for
instance,
in
putnam
county,
the
election
administrator,
handles
the
at
the
three
high
schools
in
my
community.
They
handled
this
the
election,
the
registration
drive
at
the
high
schools.
K
So
by
making
this
a
requirement
of
the
lea
because
it
looks
like
it
shall
through
the
local
lea,
do
you
perceive
any
conflict
between
the
local,
lea
and
the
local
election
administrator.
G
Chairman
dixie,
no,
I
do
not
perceive
any
conflict
or
between
the
two,
but
I
think
they
could
work
together
to
just
make
it
that
what
the
the
the
action's
stronger,
because
one
we
do
have
the
election
commission
doing
this
and
then
you
would
have
the
school
send
an
additional
email.
Just
as
a
reminder
that
hey
this
is
coming
up.
This
is
an
addition
to
not,
instead
of.
K
G
Dixie,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
no
you're.
Okay,
I
was
gonna
say
that
when
I
use
notifier
because
now
in
this
day
and
age,
technology
is
just
the
way
they
communicate
in
high
school
students,
you
have
a
high
school
student,
I
have
high
school
students
and
nine
times
out
of
10,
maybe
even
10
times
out
of
10,
they
communicate
via
email.
G
So
I
divert
to
using
the
word
email
when,
instead
of
saying
notify,
because
that's
how
my
teach
my
my
students,
my
daughters,
communicate
with
their
teachers
and
their
administrators
at
this
point-
and
I
would
assume
this
is
the
easiest
way
that
and
the
cheapest
well,
no,
it
has
no.
This
cost
effective
way
in
order
to
get
this
information
out
to
the
seniors.
K
Chairman
williams
so
say
at
an
organizational
meeting
at
the
beginning
of
the
school
year
for
seniors.
If
they
got
together,
they
could
hand
them
up
a
hard
copy.
Just
a
piece
of
paper
saying
you
know
this
year,
you
sometime
this
year,
you'll
have
a
right
to
vote,
and
this
is
how
you
do
it
is
that
would
that
meet
the
requirement
that
that
you're,
spelling
out
here
in
the
bill.
G
Chairman
dixie,
yes,
yes,
sir,
in
addition
to
when
they
send
information
about
the
prom,
which
is
a
big
thing.
I
just
had
my
daughter,
go
to
the
prom
this
past
weekend.
I'm
still
working
myself
through
that,
but
also
about
the
graduation
cap
and
gowns
and
information
about
the
graduation.
So
those
are
type
of
things
that
there's
several
opportunities
where
they
could
insert
that
notification.
G
K
B
B
B
F
Thank
you.
There
was
something
said
and
between
the
recent
exchange-
and
we
discussed
this
in
subcommittee
at
nowhere
at
nowhere
in
your
bill.
Does
it
mention
the
secretary
of
state
or
does
it
mention
the
local
election
commission
the
way
the
bill's
written?
It
is
the
sole
responsibility
of
the
school
system
to
do
this,
and
for
violation
of
this
section
of
code
it
is
a
misdemeanor.
F
G
Chairman
dixie,
unfortunately,
the
unf
untimely
filed
amendment
had
that
the
actual
languages
in
there
was
the
last
sentence.
It
says
the
information
provided
must
be
prepared
for
the
lo
by
the
local
election
commission
or
the
secretary
of
state.
Unfortunately,
we
were
not
able
to
add
that
on
to
their
to
this
particular
bill,
then
we
were
not
able
to
do
that
and
to
address
about
the
misdemeanor.
I
think
that
it
says
that
my
office
also
spoke
with
legal
and
under
statute.
G
There
could
be
a
class
c
misdemeanor,
but
it
sets
a
high
bar
that
says
if
a
person
knowingly
knowingly
knowingly
fails
to
do
an
act
which
such
persons
are
required
to
do.
That
means
you
intentionally
do
not
do
it.
Sometimes
things
happen.
We
understand
things,
move
at
a
fast
pace
but
knowingly
preventing
someone
to
get
this
information
would
cause
that
and-
and
that
is
a
high
bar
to
set
and
that's
a
and
then
it
would
also
go
up
to
it.
G
F
Chairman
rudd,
I
think
you'd
mention
the
untimely
amendment
that
would
have
maybe
the
responsibility
of
the
election
commission
instead
of
the
school
system.
That's
what
the
current
law
already
does.
So
it
would
be
repugnant
to
do
that
because
they
already
go
into
the
schools
and
have
a
booth
and
register
people
to
vote,
and
they
already
inform
them
that
they
can
be
registered
actually
pre.
I
believe
there's
a
policy
of
pre-registering
people
to
sign
them
up
before
they're,
actually
18,
and
then
it's
effective
when
they're
18..
G
The
statement
says:
the
information
must
be
prepared
by
the
local,
not
that
it
would
be
disseminated
by
them.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
like
again
another
bite
at
the
apple.
Until
we
don't
have
anybody
falsely
fall
through
the
cracks
and
it
just
it's
another
tool
in
the
toolbox.
I
just
I
can't
unders
imagine
why
we
would
not
want
our
students
involved
in
our
in
our
election
process.
I
can't
understand
why
we
would
not
want
to
give
them
every
opportunity,
even
if
we
had
to
remind
them
every
day.
This
is
your
obligation.
G
It's
not
it's
a
right,
but
it's
also
your
obligation
to
your
country,
to
yourself
to
your
family,
to
your
ancestors
to
everyone
that
came
before
you
that
made
the
sacrifice
for
you
to
be
able
to
vote.
So
I
think
this
is
an
important
bill
to
keep
our
young
people
engaged.
We
have
several
students
here
today
and
one
day.
Hopefully
these
are
leadership:
mcnairy
county
you're,
the
leaders
in
your
community.
B
The
chairman
will
take
privilege
here.
I
don't
think
we
do
anything
to
discourage
our
kids
from
voting
or
for
those
men
that
fought
and
died
and
bled
for
our
country
to
have
that
right.
So
is
there
anything?
G
The
issue
is
it's
not
done
uniformly
across
the
state.
This
helps
provide
a
process
that
where
we
under
we,
we
do
not
miss
any
child.
That
is
a
senior
that's.
The
whole
point
of
this
bill
is
to
make
sure
we
have
some
uniformity,
that
we
have
some
requirement.
Some
level
playing
field
across
the
state.
B
Also
like,
for
instance,
my
daughter
who
graduated
at
17
would
she
be
made
aware
of
it
under
this
current
bill,
you
have.
H
H
H
Again
we're
talking
about
the
untimely
amendment.
I
was
just
curious
if
that
amendment
was
able
to
be
attached
to
the
bill,
would
that
enable
us
to
move
the
bill
forward?
I
don't
know
if
I
I'm
directing
that
to
chairman
rudd
or
other
members
who
are
somewhat
reluctant
right
now
to
move
the
bill
forward.
G
G
Possibly
like
I
said,
but
that
that
bar
is
that
what
it
says
right
now,
it
says
clear
that
a
violation
only
if
a
person
knowingly
knowingly
fails
to
do
an
act
which
such
persons
are
required
to
do
by
this
title
and
it's
an
extremely
high
burden.
K
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
may
be
a
question
for
legal,
because
we've
talked
much
about
the
fact
that
something
is
being
done.
That
registrations
are
occurring,
but
I'd
like
to
ask
if
we
can
of
legal
in
current
law,
is
there
a
requirement
that
the
secretary
of
state
or
the
local
election
commissions
inform
high
school
seniors
that
they
may
be
eligible
to
register
to
vote?
I
know
they
conduct
the
registration,
but
is
there
a
requirement
from
the
sec
that
the
secretary
of
state
or
the
local
county
election
commission
inform
high
school
seniors?
D
Thank
you,
matt
money
from
legal.
What
the
existing
law
says
is
that
each
county
election
commission
or
its
designee
in
each
county
shall
conduct
at
least
one
supplemental
voter
registration
where
they
actually
register
people
that
are
qualified
each
year
at
every
public
and
private
high
school
in
the
county
for
the
purposes
of
registration
of
those
persons
who
will
be
eligible
to
vote
in
the
next
election.
D
So
if
they're,
17
and
they're
going
to
turn
18
before
the
next
election,
then
the
the
registration
is
available
to
them
in
terms
of
what
information
is
provided
to
them
or
what
kind
of
notice
the
students
get
as
to
when
that
supplemental
voter
registration
is,
I
presume
that
information
is
getting
out.
You
know
from
the
school
to
the
students
that
it's
available
on
a
certain
date,
just
like
any
other
activity
that
goes
on
at
campus,
that's
available
to
a
certain
cohort,
but
I
can't
speak
to
that
directly
because
that's
not
the
statute.
E
B
B
E
D
D
So
I
mean
that
that
just
seems
really
simple.
Just
it's
just
like
you
said
another
tool
in
in
the
the
box
to
to
do.
I
mean
it's
as
simple,
as
is
just
in
morning,
announcements
a
school,
reminding
people
to
vote
which,
which
I
don't
think
is
ever
a
bad
thing,
and
I
think
it's
good
to
remind
kids
to
vote
as
much
as
possible.
So
I
mean
I
don't
see
the
40-minute
discussion
on
telling
reminding
kids
to
vote.
It's
just
kind
of
crazy
to
me,
but
thank
you.
J
B
J
J
J
What
right
do
we
have
to
override
them?
If
this
is
such
a
huge
concern,
take
it
back
to
our
local
school
boards
and
solicit
them
to
do
this?
Not
us!
That's
why
we
elect
local
school
board.
Members!
That's
why
we
have
a
superintendent,
so
anything
we
do
here
to
supersede
that
I
think
we're
overstepping
our
bounds
and
I
am
not
voting
for
this.
It's
up
to
our
locals
to
establish
this
and
just
like
our
students
that
we
have
here
today
they
have
a
school.
They
have
school
board
members
and
superintendents.
J
G
I
found
it
interesting
that
with
the
local
control
comment,
but
we
will
slide
right
past
that,
but
my
point
is
what
I'm
trying
to
make
here:
there's
nothing
that
that
encourages
the
the
state
board
or
those
school
board,
elections
to
school
board
school
board
to
do
this.
This
is
something
that
helps
get
our
students
engaged
and
to
try
to
push
it
off
on
the
locals.
This
is
a
very
important
issue
here
we
don't.
We
have
local
elected
local
election
commissions.
We
have
a
state
elected
election
commissions.
G
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
set
the
standard
to
make
sure
all
of
the
information
is
disseminated
equally
across
and
throughout
the
state,
so
to
push
it
off
and
say:
that's
not
our
responsibility
in
this
instance,
but
in
another
instance,
we
dip
our
hands
into
a
local
issue.
We
have
to
figure
out
which
way
we
want
to
go
here.
G
H
B
H
Just
to
comment,
and
and
and
based
on
a
number
of
things
that
have
been
said,
this
seems
to
be
pretty
simple,
a
bill
and
and
another
tool
in
the
toolkit,
as
you
said,
and
mr
chairman,
I
I
just
wonder:
we're
not
going
to
go
into
recess,
but
I
I
just
wonder
what
those
students
out
there
are
thinking
right
now,
as
they
see
us
debate
this
issue.
I
oh
man.
I
would
give
anything
to
know
what
they
really
think
is
going
on
here
and
with
that.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Let's
take
a
vote.
B
B
B
A
B
Bill,
yes,
let
the
record
reflect
that.
I
have
received
a
majority
of
two-thirds
vote
from
the
governing
body
and
you're
recognized
on
your
bill,
sir.
A
B
B
Item
number
six
2434
by
chairman
farmer
without
objection,
will
be
rolled
to
the
hill
or
no
roll
to
the
college.
Here.
B
Item
number
seven
on
today's
agenda
is
2903
by
representative
baum
representative
baum
called
my
office
and
has
made
me
aware
he
has
another
local
bill,
that's
coming
and
so
at
this
time,
so
he
can
get
everything
to
get
together
and
present
it
together.
Then
we
will
without
objection,
take
this
bill
off
notice,
bill's
off
notice,.
B
Is
correct,
I
got
a
proper
motion.
Is
there
a
second
properly
motioned
in
second
amendment,
you're
recognized
on
your
amendment?
I
do
see
it
rewrites
the
bill.
Would
you
like
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
put
the
men
on
the
bill
to
be
discussed?
Yes,
thank
you,
sir.
Without
objection,
all
in
favor
of
amendment
zero,
one,
four,
seven,
eight
nine
going
on
to
the
bill-
please
say
I
oppose
no
bill-
is
now
mended,
representative
alexander
you're,
recognized
on
your
bill.
Thank
you,
sir.
C
In
2014,
we
stopped
annexation
by
ordinance.
Land
for
agriculture.
Use
can
only
be
annexed
with
permission
from
the
owner
and
the
farmer
during
all
those
years
of
uncontrolled
annexation.
Some
farms
were
annexed
with
services
provided
and
some
no
services
provided,
which,
as
you
can
imagine,
would
make
paying
taxes,
fees,
etc,
etc,
potentially
worth
not
worth
the
annexation.
C
For
those
who
are
not
being
provided
the
services,
I
think
we
are
only
one
of
a
few
states,
maybe
10
that
do
not
provide
for
de-annexation
our
farmers,
and
I
feel
certain
organizations
like
farm
bureau
and
future
farmers
of
america
are
asking
for
a
path
forward
to
take
for
these.
Farmers
who
are
their
property,
is
annexed
in
and
they
get
no
service.
C
I
think
15
acres
is
the
minimum
for
the
green
belt.
If
you
are
a
legitimate
farmer,
I
am
not
talking
about
somebody
that
decides
to
raise
10
chickens
and
sell
a
few
eggs
a
week.
I'm
talking
about
a
legitimate
farm
here
I
mean
you
do
not
want
to
file
a
scheduled
f
with
the
federal
government.
Unless
you
are
a
farmer
trust
me,
you
have
been.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
ask
for
your
please
to
consider
this
very
few.
Farmers
are
going
to
do
this,
but
we've
got
some
out
there
that
need
this
little
bit
of
help
and
if
we
can
get
them
still
producing
crops
still
raising
cattle,
we've
done
our
state
of
favor
and
we
have
done
this
country
a
favor.
I
ask
you
to
please
consider
this
bill.
A
D
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
representative.
Alexander,
just
had
a
quick
question.
Did
the
when
the
annexation
process
happened
for
this
farmer?
Did
the
local
government
there
I
guess
in
irwin?
Did
they
make
a
commitment
contractually
to
the
citizens
of
those
communities
in
which
they
annexed?
Were
they
guaranteed
a
certain
timeline,
as
it
relates
to
the
extension
of
services
representative.
K
Thank
you.
We
find
ourselves
part
of
the
reason
why
representative
carter
worked
hard
about
eliminating
annexation
by
ordinance
is
because
you
could
annex
property
and
simply
never
extend
services
there,
so
it.
I
understand
the
reason
why
the
change.
I
do
think
that
local
governments
have
the
responsibility
to
keep
their
promises
to
those
people
in
which
they
annex,
whether
it's
services
for
water
and
sewer
or
electricity
or
law
or
law
enforcement
aid.
K
C
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
have
worked
really
hard
mike
carter
worked
on
this
for
years
guys
we
need
to
honor
him
with
this
bill.
We've
worked
hard
to
make
it
so
that
it's
palable
for
the
cities.
When
we
offered
things
like
the
farmer
has
to
pay
you
back
for
any
services
you're.
Given
you
know,
I
think
we're
really
trying
we
put
a
mild
limit
on
it.
C
J
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
sponsor
a
good
piece
of
legislation.
I
just
have
a
question:
if
you
have
a
piece
of
property,
what
what
is
the
minimum
size
of
that
property?
It.
C
J
So
if
we
pull
out,
I
mean
it
could
be
on
15
acres,
I
mean
there
could
be.
You
know,
mom
and
dad
live
on
this
section
of
15
acres.
The
son
daughter-in-law
could
live
on
other
parts
of
the
property,
so
if
it
gets
de-annexed
who
does
in
in
in
this
say,
a
city
of
whomever
was
providing
fire
and
police
to
that
15
acres
and
you
de-annex
it
from
that
city.
J
C
It
is
my
understanding
that
it
is
currently
in
state
code
that,
for
example,
the
with
the
fire
department-
let's
just
say
a
farm,
had
a
fire
trust
me.
I
grew
up
on
a
farm
that
did
have
a
fire
fire
or
hay
farm
caught
on
fire
or
hey
barn,
but
you
can
contract
with
the
fire
department
on
your
own.
J
Okay
well-
and
we
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
last
night,.
C
J
Not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
but
I
am
concerned
that
you
know
I
think,
with
what
chairman
williams
was
alluding
to
I
mean
there,
there's
there's
a
concern
there
of
who's
going
to
respond.
Is
it
the
county
or
is
it
going
to
be
the
city,
and
I
think
we
we've
got,
you
know,
get
that
ironed
out.
I
mean
because
we're
putting
lives
in
jeopardy,
I
think
with.
If
we
take
it
out
of
the
city
and
they're
no
longer
going
to
respond.
J
It
just
kind
of
gives
me
a
little
concern
there.
So
how
do
we
address
that.
C
Excuse
me,
thank
you
chairman.
I
think
that.
C
C
What
do
I
want
to
do?
Do
I
want
to
give
up
my
farm,
because
I
can't
afford
to
pay
the
taxes
on
it
or
do
I
want
to
have
services
and
so
they're
going
to
have
to
negotiate
that
on
their
own?
With
these
cities
and
these
counties,
and
once
again,
the
municipalities
can
tell
them
what
they
want
to
charge
for
those
services.
J
This
is
a
debate
we
have
back
home
as
far
as
the
growth
goes
and
who
responds
and
and
so
forth,
and
so
so,
if
we
pass
this
we're
pretty
much
leaving
it
up
to
the
landowner
to
work
with
the
local
city,
police
or
the
city
that
they
used
to
be
part
of
and
now
they're
taken
out,
and
so
the
county
volunteer
fire
department
would
then
respond.
So
I'm
thinking
about
a
9-1-1
call
that
goes
in
you
know
where
somebody's
injured
on
a
four-wheeler
or
the
house
is
on
fire
and
the
none
went
off.
J
9-1-1
office
is
figuring
out.
Who
do
they?
Who
do
they
dispatch?
So
help
me
understand
how
we
get,
because
I
I
can
see
my
local
people
calling
me
saying
you
know
this
is
creating
a
a
situation
locally.
That
you
know
needs
to
be
worked
out,
so
I
don't
know-
and
I'm
not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot-
I'm
just
I'm
thinking
out
loud
as
we
have
this
conversation
on
how
this
affects
our
district,
especially
mine.
J
That's
in
a
different
part
of
the
state
dealing
with
different
growth
patterns
and
and
so
forth.
So
but
anyway,
if
you
can
help
me
feel
better
about
that
process.
J
Okay,
all
right,
I
think,
you've
answered
most
my
questions.
J
If
we
can,
as
we
move
this
forward,
which
I
do
support
it,
we
can
continue
to
have
this
conversation
and
maybe,
as
it
gets
to
the
floor,
we
can
have
clarity
on
how
we
address
that
local
issue,
because
not
every
citizen
is
going
to
know
to
reach
out
to
their
city
unless
there's
pros
a
process
in
place
when
they
go
to
make
application
for
deannexation
that
there's
coordination
with
the
911
office
and
the
emergency
services
there
in
that
city
that
used
to
provide
that's
no
longer,
I
assume
they're
going
to
provide
you
know
a
response
to
that
piece
of
land
and
and
what
makes
it
even
more
kind
of
frustrating
is
sometimes
this.
J
This
piece
of
land
from
what
I
understand
can
be
right
in
the
middle
of
land
around
it
can
be
part
of
the
city.
Is
that
right,
chairman
alexander.
C
That
is
that's
correct.
I
mean
you
know,
there's
going
to
be,
I
know,
there's
a
big
concern
is
the
doughnut
holes.
I
understand
that
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
have
that
many
a
lot
of
the
dominant
holes
were
created
because
far
the
city's
annexed
them
in
to
begin
with.
C
J
Leader,
gant
yeah,
I
think
if
we
could
provide
language
to
the
effect
that
requires
the
local
when
they,
when
they
go
in
there
and
make
that
application
that
they
are
informed
somehow
of
who's
going
to
respond,
so
they
have
assurance
and,
and
the
city
has
assurance,
the
count
the
county
has
assurance
and
the
911
office
has
assurance.
So
when
that
call
comes
in
there's,
there's
no
there's
no
place
for
confusion
at
that
point
when
responding
to
somebody
that's
their
life's
on
the
line.
J
C
B
Any
other
questions
representative
chisholm.
C
A
So
I'm
noticing
how
bills
affect
rural
and
urban
areas
differently,
but
my
my
concern
with
the
bill
is
like
so
in
in
my
district
we've
we've
had
conversations
about
the
annexations
over
the
last
few
years
anyway.
Yes,
sir,
so
my
concern
is
some
bad
actors
using
this
bill
to
get
out
of
paying
taxes,
even
though
they
they
would
probably
heavily
rely
on
the
city's
services.
A
C
C
Now
don't
get
me
wrong,
there's
bad
apples
and
everything,
but
I
don't
think,
sir,
that
anybody
that
goes
through
the
trouble
of
filing
a
schedule
if
with
the
federal
government,
is
going
to
be
a
bad
actor
because
they
got
too
much
information
on
them
with
the
federal
government
and
the
federal
government
should
be
catching
it.
So
hopefully
we
would
not
have
that
situation.
I
Thank
you
chairman,
thank
you,
representative,
alexander,
and
of
course
I
worked
on
the
farm
growing
up
too.
Let
me
ask
you
that
in
this
in
this
de-annexation
bill,
if
I,
if
I'm
reading
it
right,
so
they
make
application
to
the
city,
and
then
the
city
has
so
long
with
time
to
respond
to
them,
then,
if
they
don't
respond,
then
they're
automatically
out
is
that
correct.
I
They
apply
to
the
city
to
be
de-annexed,
then.
Does
the
city
just
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
answer
their
de-annexation
question
and
if
they
don't
answer
it,
let
them
out
then.
Are
they
automatically
out
then.
I
Days,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman.
Okay,
after
that
30
days,
let's,
let's
go
back
to
another
scenario:
let's
say
that
they
have
been
provided
some
services
or
whatever,
and
then,
within
that
30
days,
the
city
comes
back
and
asked
them.
Okay,
you
owe
us
this
amount
of
money.
Is
there
any
timeline
in
earthquake?
There
could
be
negotiations
or
anything
about
cause.
C
I
I
I
Thank
you,
I
don't.
I
don't
believe
it
does
either
that's
one
of
my
concerns
there.
If
there
would
be
any
ramifications
before
that,
that's
just
another
concern
I'll
bring.
Maybe
we
can
be
addressed,
but
anyway,
of
course,
I've
always
been
a
city
man.
As
far
as
everything
and
like
you
said,
I
hate
for
the
donut
holes
to
appear,
don't
know
that
they
would
that
much
or
whatever,
but
I
do
have
some
reservations
with
this
and
bill.
So
you
know
where
I
stand.
I've
talked
to
you.
I
appreciate.
B
B
K
Thank
you,
chairman
representative
alexander,
your
bill
does
not
talk
about
a
suit
or
anything.
It
just
simply
says
that
the
city
has,
or
the
municipal
government
who
was
annexed
has
30
days
to
comply
with
the
request
based
upon
it's.
C
K
Would
you
agree
with
me
that,
if,
if
that,
if
this
were
to
happen
based
upon
the
terms
your
bill,
then
that
local
city
would
have
to
or
municipal
government
would
have
to
sue
the
farmer
I
mean
they'd
they'd
have
to
bring
suit
in
a
civil
suit
against
the
farmer
in
order
to
collect
anything
they
felt
like
they
were
owed.
Is
that
correct,
representative,
alexander.
B
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Chad
jenkins
tennessee
municipal
league,
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
mindful
of
the
time
and
a
desire
to
hit
that
target.
Let
me
just
be
as
brief
as
possible.
First,
I
enjoy
eating
every
day
and
I
hope
that
everybody
understands
me
speaking
against
this
bill
doesn't
mean
I
hate
farmers.
I
don't
like
farmers
that
don't
appreciate
farmers.
L
The
number
one
concern,
I
would
say
is
the
bill.
The
way
I
read
it
and
it's
drafted.
If
I'm
looking
at
the
correct
amendment,
it's
true
that
you
have
that
if
you're
a
farmer,
you
must
file
a
schedule
f,
but
that
does
not
mean
you
must
be
a
farmer
to
file
a
schedule.
F,
we
have
people
who
you
you
walk
down,
the
road.
L
You
say
that's
a
farm
and
everybody
would
agree
they
file,
schedule,
f,
there's
also
folks
who
keep
chickens
in
their
backyard
or
a
few
hives.
They
also
file
schedule
f,
so
filing
a
schedule.
F
does
not
make
you
a
full-time
farmer.
It
means
you
have
agricultural
income
period.
One
dollar
earned
is
one
one
dollar
reported.
L
L
That's
not
just
from
one
side
all
the
way
around.
That's
a
lot
of
properties
in
some
cases
that
you're
talking
about
last.
Let
me
just
say
that
to
representative
williams
point,
I
think
the
reason
we
had
1101
and
the
reason
that
we
had
is
that
there
were
selective
annexations
that
did
choose
pick
and
choose
cherry
pick.
L
Simply
filing
a
declaration
and
being
out
in
90
days
is
problematic.
If
doughnut
holes
were
wrong,
the
first
time
they're
wrong
again
to
create
them
intentionally,
so
that,
oh
I'm,
mindful
of
the
time.
B
Thank
you,
mr
jenkins,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
staying
there
at
the
table,
I
have
a
few
people
with
questions
for
you
we're
still
out
of
session
leader
gant.
J
Thank
you
chairman.
This
kind
of
goes
back
to
my
former
line
of
questioning
about
the
cities
and
the
counties
agreeing
who's
going
to
respond
to
a
accident
that
occurs
on
a
15-acre.
J
I
have
a
bunch
of
these
in
my
in
fayette
county
in
my
district,
that's
in
some
of
them
are
inside
the
city.
Some
are
outside
they're.
In
the
urban
growth
boundaries,
I
mean
they're
in
the
reserve
areas.
I
mean
this.
This
is
this.
I
can
see
this
being
a
huge
problem
in
my
in
my
county,
and
I
I
just
don't
want
to
do
anything
that
I'm
going
to,
and
I
support
this.
I
support
our
farmers.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
in
here
don't
support
our
farmers
and
the
gratitude
that
we
have
towards
them.
J
J
How
do
I
have
assurance
when
that
application
is
put
in
to
be
de-annexed
on
who
is
going
to
respond,
and
I
don't
want
you
know?
Well
we'll
figure
this
you
know
we'll
leave
it
up
to
the
owner
to
get
with
whoever
and
and
all
that
I
mean
there
needs
to
be
some
clarity
here
in
the
process
of.
If
you
come
out
of
a
city
chairman
shaw,
if
you
don't
mind,
can
you
move
to
the
left
just
a
little
bit
where
I
can
go
to
the
left?
J
L
Thank
you
chairman.
Please
recognize
yourself,
chad,
jenkins
sentencing,
municipality
again,
I
I
wish
I
could
offer
you
this
certainty
of
that
clarity.
That's
one
of
the
main
concerns
that
you
have
with
donut
holes
is
so
by
law.
There
would
be
notice
to.
L
L
I
mean
we
don't
know.
What's
what's
in
those
counties,
it
wouldn't
be
the
city
obligation
anymore
9-1-1
did
they
have
the
latest
records?
Did
they
have
the
update?
L
Who
did
they
send
choose
to
to
notify,
but
it
would
be
something
other
than
the
city's
responsibility,
but
the
city
then
in
some
cases,
may
be
the
closest
or
the
best
able
to
respond,
but
would
not
be
obligated
to
do
so,
and
that
puts
us
in
a
bad
situation
of
having
someone
that
is
surrounded
by
city
limits,
that
we
have
liability
concerns
about
responding
to
because
they're,
not
ours,
and
yet
we
have
to
watch
that
barn
burn
or
that
house
burn,
because
and
and
we
could
get
there.
L
So
what
do
you
do
in
that
situation?
So
you
you
ignore
it
and
let
it
burn
or
you
serve
it
anyway
and
then
figure
out
how
the
taxpayers
were.
I
mean
those
are
so
the
point
is
you
just
don't
create
doughnut
holes
and
then
you
don't
have
those
situations,
which
is
why
we've
done
everything
as
the
state
and
this
body
has
taken
the
action
to
try
to
eliminate
those
wherever
we
can
so
leader,
gant.
J
L
L
The
the
best
answer
I
could
give
you
on
that
question
alone
was
in
prior
efforts.
There
have
been
that
were
defeated.
This
proposal's
been
around
have
been
defeated
several
times,
but
one
of
those
included
that
limited
to
those
areas
that
were
contiguous
to
the
border.
So
you
had
to
be
touching
the
unincorporated
areas
you
so
at
least,
if
it
was
de-annexed,
you
don't
create
a
donut
hole
in
doing
that.
If
that,
if
that
makes
sense,.
H
H
L
Chad,
jenkins
tennessee
municipality,
I'm
looking
at
amendment
the
drafting
code,
zero,
one,
four,
seven,
eight,
nine
and
presuming
that
that
is
the
correct
amendment.
Then
yes,
sir,
mr
miller,
that's
exactly
so!
I
would
defer
to
legal
on
that
question,
but
I'm
looking
at
e,
which
subsection
e,
which
defines
what
we're
talking
about
and
then
that's
continued
on
and.
L
D
D
That's
what's
used
in
the
throughout
the
bill
in
terms
of
what
type
of
property
is
able
to
de-annex
from
the
city,
it's
incongruent
with
the
definition
that
we
use
under
title
67,
chapter
5,
which
is
our
classification
for
property
taxes,
our
definition
of
agricultural
property
or
agricultural
land
with
the
15
acres,
that's
constitutes
a
farm
unit
engaged
in
the
production
or
growing
of
agricultural
products,
or
it's
been
farmed
by
the
owner
or
parent
or
spouse
for
at
least
25
years
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
D
H
D
D
You
have
to
fall
within
that
definition
of
property
used
primarily
for
agricultural
purposes,
which
means
that
you
have
filed
a
federal
income
tax
return
containing
one
of
those
two
forms
that
reference,
the
schedule
f
or
the
irs
form.
35.
H
H
H
L
My
chad
jing
is
tennessee
municipal
league
representative
miller.
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
with
absolute
certainty
and
number,
because
I
think
it
would
help
the
cause,
but
I
would
tell
you
that
your
sentiments
are
right
and
and
are
when
there
are
in
fact
properties
within
nashville
within
memphis
proper
that
would
qualify
under
this
based
on
my
conversations
with
those
cities
that
they
didn't.
L
Give
me
a
specific
number,
but
there
are
in
fact
properties
that
they
are
certain
would
would
satisfy
the
definition
of
this
bill
that
you
would
not,
or
that
I
would
not
consider
a
farm
if
I
wouldn't
even
notice
it
if
I
drove
by
it.
Okay,
so.
K
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
mr
jenkins,
for
coming
today,
based
upon
tml
and
your
representation
of
cities
and
towns
across
the
state.
The
citizen
does,
does
tmale
have
a
a
role
or
a
an
opinion
about
how
long
the
plan
of
services
should
take
for
a
city
as
it
relates
to
any
annexation,
either
the
old
method
or
or
the
new
method
of
annex
of
annexation.
L
Yes,
sir,
I
would
and
thank
you
for
the
question,
because
I
wanted
to
answer
you
earlier
when
you
were
saying.
I
L
So
yeah
you
make
a
commitment.
You
ought
to
honor
that
commitment.
The
statute
says
reasonable
time,
but
I
think
we,
you
know
whatever
that
means,
but
I
think
the
fact
is.
If
somebody
is
promised
services
they
ought
to
be
delivered
and
to
representative
to
the
sponsors
comments
before
there
is
a
cause
of
action.
There
is
avenue
right
now.
L
If
a
city
annexes
you,
you
are
promised
as
part
of
that
the
law
requires
a
provision
of
a
plan
of
services
and,
if
you're,
not
if
that
city
is
not
honoring
that
services,
absolutely
they.
You
can
go
to
court
now
and
get
that
resolved
by
that
by
that
judge,
because
that
is
a
commitment
we
annexed
you
in
and
we
promised
to
provide
these
services
we're
collecting
property
taxes
for
it.
K
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
your
testimony
as
a
former
city
councilman
who
who
annexed
people
by
ordinance
and
as
a
state
representative
who
changed
that
statute.
I
think
it's
really
important.
There
are
just
like
we've
created
donut
holes
through
annexation
over
time
inadvertently.
I
don't
think
it
was
something
anyone's
purpose
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
still,
in
my
community
and
all
across
the
state
where
cities
and
towns
have
made
commitments,
and
it's
been
25
30
40
years
in
some
instance.
K
So
I
appreciate
your
testimony
today,
but
I
do
think
the
statute
should
be
changed
based
upon
your
agreement
and
testimony
here
today
that
we
should,
by
annexation
of
any
type
in
the
state
now
based
upon
the
new
method,
should
set
a
standard
for
cities
on
how
long
they
have
in
order
to
extend
plan
of
services,
and
so
when,
when,
as
a
former
city
councilman,
it
takes
us
31
years
to
provide
sewer
to
an
area
which
we
annexed.
K
That
is
way
too
long,
and
so
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
understand
what's
going
on
in
the
instance
of
of
this
farmer,
I
get
it.
I
do
think
there
are
some
challenges
associated
with
definition
of
which
we
can
have
a
discussion
after
we
go
out
of
session,
but
I
I
do
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
have
a
discussion
and
for
you
to
be
here
today.
I
know
you
have
a
difficult
job.
K
I
think,
finally,
chairman
one
one
last
question
based
upon
my
understanding
of
how
fire
and
safety
extension
services,
it
is
our
municipal
government
and
city
governments
have
ratings
as
it
relates
to
their
response
times
and
our
insurance
premiums
as
individual
homeowners
and
commercial
property
owners
and
retail
businesses
is
based
upon
this
rating,
and
so
it,
but
there's
also
a
requirement
by
the
county
and
city
governments
to
maintain
a
minimum
rating,
which
means
they
would
have
to
respond
to
emergencies,
whether
fire
or
or
or
safety
as
it
relates
to
our
citizens
across
the
state.
K
L
L
Do
they
recognize
that
I
mean
it's
it's
a
mile
within
a
city
limits
when
they
look
at
that
and
that
address
pops
up.
Do
they
recognize
that
as
a
call
within
the
city
of
fill
in
the
blank
and
they
dispatch
that
that
truck
or
that
police
car,
when
it's
actually
in
the
unincorporated
area,
because
it
was
annexed,
and
so
it
becomes
an
issue
of
not
whether
that
department
knows
necessarily
but
that
dispatch
when
that
call
comes
in
and
and
how
that
is
determined
and
and
who,
who
gets
dispatched
to
there?
L
You
know
in
basics,
but
in
the
heat
of
the
moment,
when
you're
responding
to
a
call
when
the
dispatch
comes
and
who
reports
that,
I
think
is
where
the
the
confusion
has
been
evidenced
with
other
doughnut
holes
in
the
past,
and
we
would
so,
I
think,
that's
more
than
likely
where
the
the
issue
would
arise.
Thank.
K
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Just
just
two
questions
to
you
number
one
with
with
you
said
it
would
affect
nashville
and
I'm
just
curious
is
their
metro
government
how
how
it
would
affect
nashville
and
then
number
two
with
schedule
f
farm,
since
it
had
to
be
a
schedule
at
farm
since
2014
that
still
means
that
they've
had
to
make
money
on
that
farm
in
three
the
last
five
years.
D
L
Chad
jenkins
for
the
tennessee
municipal
league,
my
reference
to
nashville
was
in
response
to
representative
miller's
questions
about
the
larger
cities,
and
so
yes
by
the
definition
of
this
there
would
be
properties
in
there.
So
that
was
my
my
reason
for
responding
to
his
in
memphis
and
in
nashville
that
there
would
be
regarding
your
question
about
since
2014.
C
The
2014
representatives
is
when
the
new
the
new
bill
came
into
being
the
new
law
that
stated
that
a
municipality
could
not
annex
a
farm
without
the
permission
of
the
landowner.
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
to
to
you
so
my
the
majority
of
my
district
is
within
a
mile
of
the
state
line,
so
my
question
becomes,
and
there
are,
there
are
plots
of
15
acres
or
a
little
bit
more
that
currently
they
actually
designate
as
farms
right
now,
and
you
know
I
I
understand
what
the
bill
is
trying
to
do,
but
I'm
afraid
of
we
use
the
term
donut
holes
out
of
I'm
afraid
we're
gonna
have
more
donuts
than
we
can
eat
because,
well,
let
me
ask
the
question:
does
this
bill
in
your
opinion,
does
this
bill
create
a
loophole
for
both
the
farmer
and
the
city?
A
Does
it
create
a
loophole
where
a
person,
if
they
wanted
to
they,
can
get
out
of
paying
municipal
taxes
and
does
it
create
a
loophole
where
cities
could
opt
out
of
giving
services.
L
I
believe
this
would
be
ripe
for
abuse
by
people
who
are
not
farmers
as
you,
and
I
would
recognize
to
be
able
to
claim
that
privilege
under
this
and
exercise
the
rights
granted
under
this.
You
do
not
have
to
be
15
acres.
I
think
that
was
clarified
earlier.
There's
nothing
in
here
about
greenbelt.
You
don't
have
to
be
15
acres.
L
L
all
right.
So
I
think
that's
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
So
all
you
have
to
do
is
serve
notice
to
a
city
to
have
one
dollar
of
income
that
you're
reporting
on
a
schedule.
F,
you
don't
have
any
requirement
for
minimum
or
maximum
size.
There's
nothing
and
you
within
90
days
are
out
so
the
question
to
what
about
cities.
L
Well,
I
can
tell
you:
the
cities,
don't
have
an
obligation
to
provide
you
services
any
longer
and
they're
not
going
to
in
all
likelihood,
there's
no
reason,
it's
not
fair
to
the
other
taxpayers
who
are
who
are
paying
those.
L
So
if
that
is
so,
I
think
yes,
you
would
in
all
likelihood
lose
services
by
the
city
for
those
property,
and
it
would
also
allow
people
to
game
the
system
that
aren't
farms
and
qualify
to
pull
out.
B
B
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
representative
chisholm
you're
recognized
for
a
follow-up.
A
Do
you
think
this
bill
has
any
way
to
affect
census
data,
since
these
these
farms
will
not
no
longer
be
in
that
city?
Would
the
cities
be
able
to
count
those
people
as
their
citizens
when
it's
time
for
census
data
to
come
in.
B
Okay,
representative,
oh
I'm
sorry,
chairman
rudd.
F
I
I
looked
up
on
the
the
website.
I'm
I'm
certainly
not
an
accountant,
but
it
said
on
the
irs
one
of
the
which
has
kind
of
been
some
a
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
misinformation.
F
L
L
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Well,
it's
obvious
that
it's
a
two-sided
problem
here
I
am
raised
on
a
farm
all
my
life
and
I
know
how
important
that
is
feed,
not
only
tennessee,
but
america.
I
realize
that,
but
I
do
think
that
what
we're
about
to
do.
If
we
pass
this
legislation
as
it
is,
I
think
we
fixing
to
create
a
problem
more
of
a
problem
than
what
we've
got
now.
A
B
Representative
shaw:
are
you
asking
mr
jenkins.
L
No
sir,
I
don't
particularly
with
the
current
definitions.
I
I
I
don't
know,
but
I
to
this
the
sponsor
I
I
don't
know
definitively.
No
sir
representative.
A
L
If
I
sorry
representative
shaw,
I
think,
with
the
current
definition,
the
answer
to
your
question
is
yes,
it
would
be
a
lot
more
than
you're
anticipating,
because
of
the
way
the
current
definition
is,
but
as
for
the
sponsor's
intent,
that's
not
my
place
to
to
answer
that.
So.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
sponsor
to
you
do
you
know
how
many
farmers,
right
now
in
this
predicament
that
this
problem
you're
trying
to
fix?
Do
you
know
how
many
we
got.
C
No
sir,
I
do
not.
That
would
be
something
I
would
have
to
talk
with
the
department
of
agriculture
about
and
see
if
they
happen
to
know.
A
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Do
you
think
that
maybe
we
could
do
a
summer
study
or
something
on
this
and
try
to
get
it,
get
the
legislation
in
a
posture
where
we
would
be
effective
for
the
farmer
as
well
as
for
cities?
Obviously,
this
petite
the
way
this
is
phrased.
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be,
but
do
you
think
that
would
be
best
if
we
try
to
put
something
together,
study
this
and
make
sure
that
we
done
something
that
would
be
conducive
to
both
parties.
A
C
Roll
it
if
I
need
to
and
get
the
language
like,
you
would
like
it,
and
but
I'm
at
the
wheel
of
the
committee
chairman.
B
Representative
alexander,
let
me
see
if
I
can
help
rein
us
to
where
we
we
we
are.
I
think
this
has
been
calendared
three
times,
so,
if
you
roll
it,
it
will
go
to
special
calendar
and
I'll
have
to
get
clarification
from
legal.
But
if
we
do
not
vote
on
this,
it
would
not
take
a
reconsider
of
actions
to
bring
it
back
up.
Correct.
D
B
I
can
recess
for
the
clerk
to
get
an
answer
on
that,
so
without
objection
we
will
recess
to
call
the
chair.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
All
right
folks,
thanks
for
being
patient,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
do
everything
correctly
here.
So
after
consultation
with
the
sponsor
of
this
bill,
I'm
going
to
recognize
leader
grant
for
a
motion.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee,
and
sponsor
I'm
gonna,
make
a
motion
that
we
roll
house
bill
2536
to
the
heel.
B
B
All
right
house
bill,
2797
by
representative
stewart
representative
stewart
is
not
with
us,
so
representative
mitchell
is
going
to
present
this
bill.
I
do
have
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second
got
a
proper
motion
in
second
yeah?
I
do
see
it
has
an
amendment
and
I
recognize
you
for
the
drafting
code,
sir.
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee,
zero
one,
five,
four,
four,
six
that.
B
Is
correct?
Do
I
have
a
motion
motion
and
second,
on
the
amendment,
looks
like
the
amendment
rewrites
the
bill?
Would
you
like
for
us
to
place
this
on
the
bill.
B
D
D
This
bill
would
have
the
releasing
entity
notify
the
clerk's
office
that
this
person,
this
former
felon,
has
completed
their
sentence,
completed
their
probation.
They
have
paid
restitution
paid
their
fines
and
they're
eligible
now
to
be
a
voter
again.
I
just
think
that
protects
our
election
integrity
a
whole
lot
more
than
allowing
it
go
the
other
way
and
it
streamlines
the
system
statewide.
B
B
I
don't
like
it:
hey
house
item
number
10
house
bill
2908
by
chair
lady
moody.
I
will
recognize
her
from
the
desk
chair,
lady
moody
you're
recognized.
Do
I
have.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
This
private
act
comes
from
the
beautiful
city
of
mumford
tennessee
in
tipton
county
and,
basically,
what
it
does.
It
is
currently
the
city
of
mumford's
charter
calls
for
newly
elected
officials
to
take
office
immediately
after
the
election,
and
what
this
change
in
the
charter
will
do
is
to
allow
time
for
the
certification
of
the
election,
as
well
as
for
the
transition
from
old
office
holders
to
newly
elected
ones,
and
that's
simply
what
it
changes.
K
Thank
you,
chair,
lady,
just
a
quick
question:
is
there
a
time
limit?
Like
I
mean
if
they
had
a
problem
with
the
election
took
them
a
month
to
certify,
then
there
was
an
appeal
and
care.
Lady
moody.
A
I
am,
I
didn't
discuss
that
in
specifically,
but
in
what
we
did
discuss
was
like
in
the
case
of
a
change
in
your
mayor's
seat.
You
know
there
are
documents
and
bills
and
businesses
daily
business,
so
I
would
think
with
this
change.
It
wouldn't
happen
until
the
thing
it
got
certified,
because
that
is
the
qualifying
part
they're
changing
is
the
election
being.
I'm
lost
my
my
thought.
Certified
certified
not.
B
A
B
B
B
That
I
have
a
motion
and
second
on
the
amendment
proper
motion
and
second
looks
like
the
amendment
rewrites
the
bill.
Would
you
like
for
us
to
place
this
on
to
the
bill
to
be
discussed?
Yes,
chairman?
Without
objection,
all
in
favor
of
amendment
number
16914
going
on
the
bill,
please
say
aye
opposed.
No.
H
H
Current
current
restrictions
there's
some
of
them
that
limit
25
units
and
a
lot
of
these
processing
plants
it's
hard
to
make
money
at
25
units.
Some
of
them
have
to
do
35
units
just
to
pretty
much
make
money,
and
the
other
big
issue
is:
there's
a
backlog.
Some
of
these
people
that
want
to
process
their
meat
may
be
backlogged
up
to
two
years
and
it's
trying
to
resolve
some
of
those
issues.
B
All
right
chairman,
holtzclaw,
okay,
we
still
got
there's
a
couple
more
amendments.
It
looks
like
needs
to
go
on
this.
Can
we
put
all
the
amendments
on
it
to
discuss
it?
Any
objection.
B
All
in
favor,
all
in
favor
of
I
need
a
motion
in
second
on
amendment,
one
six,
four
one,
eight
proper
motion
and
seconded
we'll
go
ahead
all
in
favor
of
amendment
one
six,
four
one
eight
say:
aye
opposed
no
amendments
now
on
the
bill
and
that
should
take
care
of
them.
So
you've
heard
the
explanation
from
chairman
holtzclaw
this
time.
If
you've
got
any
questions,
please
let
us
know
chairman
moon,
you're,
recognized.
A
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
to
the
sponsor.
I've
got
a
question.
This
is
something
very
sensitive
to
one
of
my
county
mayors
and
evidently
they
had
approved
a
slaughterhouse
and
then
things
jumped
the
rail.
Do
you
know
the
reason
for
that.
H
F
The
amendment
we
just
put
on
1648
it
exempts
eight
counties
or
cities
within.
Can
you
tell
me
why
they
wanted
to
be
exempt.
H
J
H
J
A
H
A
Thank
you.
I
just
don't
think
I'd
want
to
slaughter
house
just
pop
up
anyway.
I
just
want
to
protect
the
district,
I'm
I
guess
I'm
just
I
noticed
some
people
have
exempted
out
and
I
just
I
couldn't
support
the
bill
unless
I
was
exempted
out
of
it.
K
I'm
not
going
to
ask
if
I
can
exhibit
my
county,
but
I
I
do
have
this
question
in
the
instance
of
my
county
and
two
cities.
If
they
currently
have,
they
currently
have
slaughterhouses.
It
has
to
go
through
the
bza
right,
so
so
in
the
in
their
instance.
If
they
went
to
the
bza
to
get
approval,
all
your
bill
would
say
is:
if
approved
they
can't
slaughter.
K
H
K
K
I
don't
know
what
they're
called
clutches
of
of
hogs
that
you're
trying
to
to
raise
here.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
the
number
of
hogs
could
get
out
of
out
of
hand
versus
the
number
slaughtered.
So
I
don't
know
what
a
ratio
would
be,
but
obviously
that'd
be
something
that
we
need
to
consider.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
B
B
A
Yes,
chairman,
thank
you.
I
have
amendment
number
zero,
one,
six,
one
zero,
seven
that
makes.
B
E
F
I
was
throwing
my
remind
the
committee
last.
I
believe
it
was
last
week
we
or
a
week
before
last
we
passed
the
the
major
audit
bill
from
secretary
of
state,
and
I
told
you
that
there
was
a
separate
bill
coming
that's
worded
exactly
within
and
that
this
is
the
exact
wording
within
that
bill
about
williamson
county's
pilot
program.
So
it's
like
we've
already
passed
this
wording
and
a
separate
bill,
except
this
is
just
in
case
that
major
bill
didn't
make
it
through
williamson
county
survived.
B
B
There's
a
couple
of
items
we
need
to
take
care
of
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
deal
with
those
house
bill
number
zero.
Six
four
five
will
be
rolled
to
the
hill
without
objection
rolled
to
the
hill
house,
bill
2434
without
objection
will
be
rolled
to
the
hill
road
to
the
hill.
Are
there
any
announcements
or
personal
orders
from
the
committee.