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House State Government Committee- February 8, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Welcome,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
the
hour
is
upon
us
today
is
tuesday
february.
The
8th,
welcome
again
to
the
tennessee
general
assembly's
house
state
government
committee.
Coming
to
you,
live
from
beautiful,
downtown
nashville
tennessee
within
the
51st
district.
We
will
now
turn
our
attention
to
mr
teal.
Mr
teal,
will
you
call
the
roll
please.
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The
eagles
philadelphia
eagles
made
the
pick
and
eventually
traded
his
rights
to
the
chicago
bears
and
finally,
in
military
history,
1943
japanese
troops
evacuate
guadalajara
canal
leaving
the
island
in
allied
possession
after
prolonged
campaign,
the
american
victory
paved
the
way
for
other
allied
winds
within
the
solomon
islands.
Okay,
here's
the
way
it's
going
to
shape
up
today,
members
and
those
of
you
who
are
present
and
viewing
viewing
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
draw
our
attention
to
the
calendar
and
then
followed
by
that.
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Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
the
guidance
and
where
my
family
and
I
should
go
on
an
rv
trip
this
summer-
we've
been
thinking
about
where
to
go
so
now.
I
know
and
appreciate
that
this
bill
literally
does
exactly
what
it
says.
On
the
page.
I've
been
asked
by
several
folks.
Is
it
a
caption
bill?
Does
it
do
something
else?
I
promise
you.
This
is
exactly
what
it
does.
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Our
charitable
organizations
can
raise
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
if
they
get
permission
through
the
process
that
we
go
through
every
year
here
until
they
have
to
get
a
high
level
audit.
That
is
very
expensive.
That
has
not
been
changed
in
several
years.
This
will
change
it
from
50
000
to
75
000.
They
still
have
to
abide
by
all
the
other
regulations
it
just.
They
won't
have
to
do
that
high
level
expensive
audit
until
they
hit
75
000..
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Those
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes
habit
and
1680
is
going
to
move
on
to
calendar
and
rules
leader.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
today,
famous
chairman
members
of
the
committee
item
two
house
bill
1657,
chairman
faison,
you
are
with
us
and
we
appreciate
your
presence
today.
We
have
a
motion
on
a
second.
You,
sir,
are
recognized
again
on
house
bill
1657.
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Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee.
This
is
a
premier
resort
bill.
The
reason
I
am
asking
to
take
it
outside
of
the
omnibus
premier
resort
bill
is.
I
have
a
golf
course
in
my
district
who
it's
changed
hands
in
the
last
year,
for
whatever
reason
they
the
license.
That
was
with
that
golf
course
does
not
allow
them
to
continue
to
sell
alcohol
under
the
new
owner,
and
he
is
he's
needing
to
be
able
to
raise
a
little
additional
revenue
to
keep
things
going.
I'm.
B
We
got
a
call
for
the
question.
I
see
no
objection,
of
course,
and
so
we
are
now
off
to
vote
to
our
vote.
Those
in
favor
of
house
bill
1657,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes
have
it
1657
passes
and
chairman
you're
on
your
way
to
finance
ways
and
means.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
today,
sir
you're
welcome.
B
All
right
item
number
three,
and
that
brings
oh
here
he
is,
he
is
with
us
today.
He
is
on
time
as
well
he's
got.
We
got
a
motion
and
a
second
chairman
hal.
I
see
you've
already
got
a
motion
in
a
second,
but
I
see
you,
sir,
have
an
amendment
to
this
one
and
oh
yeah,
I'm
sorry
bill.
That's
house
bill,
328,
you're,
recognizing.
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It
requires
simply
that
each
law
enforcement
officer
who
is
specifically
assigned
to
the
traffic
division
of
a
local
law
enforcement
agency
to
undergo
training
in
the
proper
investigative
procedures
of
accidents
with
suspected
dui,
and
this
of
course,
is
important
when
it
goes
to
trial,
or
should
it
go
to
trial.
This
is
part
of
their
annual
continuing
education
of
the
post
commission.
There
is
no
fiscal
note
and
I'd
be
glad
to
ask
you
answer.
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Very
good
questions.
Thank
you,
sir.
For
that
explanation.
Okay,
now
we're
on
the
amendment
any
any
questions
to
chairman
hal
on
the
amendment.
We've
got
a
question
called
so
any
objections
to
the
calling
of
the
question.
There
is
none.
Of
course,
let
us
vote
those
in
favor
of
amendment
number,
one
tracking
code,
twelve,
zero,
six,
one,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
likes
on
eyes.
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I
think
you
did
too.
I
think
you
did
a
good
job,
but
we
will
allow
for
any
questions,
nope
all
right.
Any
objection
to
the
calling
of
the
question.
I
see.
None,
let's
vote
on
house
bill,
328
hasn't
been
dead.
Those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
I'm
supposed
like
sign
out.
Have
it
and
the
bill
passes
chairman.
You
are
moving
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
Congratulations,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
sir.
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E
Thank
you
sponsor
when
we're
in
the
pandemic.
A
couple
years
ago,
when
it
first
started
out,
there
was
a
large
we
had
a
pretty
large
outbreak
in
my
district,
and
so
I
spoke
directly
with
the
health
department
inquired
upon
that,
and
it
turns
out
there
were
a
couple
different
churches
that
specifically
were
responsible
for
a
large
spread
of
of
covet
at
that
time,
and
so
you
know,
I
guess
my
concerns
is
with
with
your
with
your
legislation.
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We
would
no
longer
be
able
to
restrict
those
types
of
gatherings
and
potentially
increase
the
spread
of
a
pandemic
in
our
communities.
Representative
cassidy
recognized.
Well,
specifically,
you
couldn't
stop
someone
from
worshiping
god
with
their
family
and
friends.
So
this
is
a
specific
bill.
It
does
not
with
no
other
public
gatherings,
but
that-
and
you
know
I
know
state
of
california-
tried
to
do
this
and
the
courts
in
california
said
you
can't
do
this.
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It's
first
amendment
right,
so
I
think
the
courts
have
opined
very
succinctly
and
directly
that
we
cannot
stop
someone
from
worshiping
as
they
see
fit,
represent
powell.
So
so
you
said
with
their
friends
and
family,
but
you're
saying
so
a
a
church
gathering
could
could
I
mean
this
applies
to
a
church
gathering
correct.
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All
right
here
call
for
the
question
we
got
it.
We
do.
We
got
a
call
for
the
question.
Let
us
vote
on
house
bill,
16
94
as
amended
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
you
represent
casting,
are
off
to
calendar
and
rule
sir,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
today.
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Our
final
one
members
will
be
item
number
five
and
that
is
by
our
own
chairman
host
claude
chairman
host
claw
house
bill
1688
you're
recognized.
We
have
a
motion,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
bill.
I
see
we've
got
and
you
have
an
amendment.
Would
you
please
give
us
that
tracking
code,
please.
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Okay,
no,
no
further
questions
chairman.
No,
he
says
not
all
right
all
right,
we're
again
we're
on
the
amendment
still
and
we
haven't
I'm
going
to
call
for
the
question.
Any
objections,
no
everybody's
ready.
I
think,
let's
vote
on
the
amendment,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
Those
opposed
lock
sign
eyes
have
it
we
now
have
you.
I
mean
we
have
that
amendment
on
there
for
you,
chairman,
holt,
claude,
do
you
have
any
closing
remarks,
sir?.
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Yes
and
fyi
for
the
record-
and
I
apologize-
I
failed
to
tell
you
chairman,
that
your
bill
is
on
to
yeah
finance
ways
and
means,
sir
okay,
for
the
record.
That
concludes
members
our
calendar
for
today,
and
we're
going
to
ask
our
presenter,
mr
collier.
If
he
would
make
his
way
up
to
the
presenters
table.
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Proceed
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
come
down
and
testify
before
you
a
little
about
me.
I'm
a
fifth
generation,
sevier
county
native
and
have
been
in
the
winery
business
for
31
years,
reside
in
sevier
county
and
have
been
in
the
tourism
business
in
that
area
for
52
years.
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We
sort
of
felt
like
the
red-headed
stepchild
of
agriculture,
the
growth
in
the
tennessee
wine
and-
and
I
say
wine
and
grape
interchangeably,
because
95
of
all
the
grapes
grown
in
tennessee
are
sold
to
tennessee
wineries.
So,
basically,
if
the
tennessee
grape
farmer
is
going
to
succeed,
then
he
has
to
have
a
vibrant
tennessee
wine
industry
to
buy
his
product
in
2002,
the
tennessee
wineries
we
had
20
tennessee
wineries
and
north
carolina
had
31.
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In
2002
we
had
10
20
wineries
in
tennessee
and
north
carolina
had
31
wineries.
Thank
you.
So
we
got
serious
about
catching
them,
and
last
year
we
had
70
tennessee
wineries
and
200
over
250
north
carolina
wineries.
They
have
grown
over
500
percent
and
we
have
grown
the
slowest
in
the
southeastern
conference.
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And
I
draw
it
directly
to
the
fact
that
we
have
laws
that
restrict
our
operations
and
make
us
uncompetitive
with
california
wine
in
tennessee
the,
and
if
we
had
their
market
share,
we'll
just
say
11
that
would
create
2
000
rural
jobs.
It
would
triple
the
tennessee
wine
industry
and
the
demand
for
tennessee
grapes
that
was
from
the
university
of
tennessee
extension
service.
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Dr
hughes
survey
that
he
conducted
last
year,
so
we
and
when
you're
looking
at
jobs,
a
rural
job
is
worth
a
lot
because
our
rural
communities
are
shrinking
and
because
they're
losing
their
young
folks
to
the
urban
areas
because
of
the
lack
of
work,
two
thousand
rural
jobs.
When
you're
looking
at
the
ford
plant,
that's
going
to
create
five
thousand
and
you
had
to,
and
it
costs
several
billion
dollars
to
get
that
to
work
out.
We're
not
asking
for
that
billions
of
dollars.
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One
of
the
major
creators
of
this
to
keep
it
a
rural
job
is
the
fact
that
tennessee
allows
wineries
to
have
satellite
locations,
and
this
means
that
your
winery
can
be
located
in
a
rural
area
where
you
grow
your
grapes
and
create
those
rural
jobs.
But
you
don't
have
the
customer
base
to
make
you
a
successful
business.
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If
you
can
locate
your
winery
in
an
urban
center
or
a
tourist
area,
then
you
can
sell
your
product
in
that
tourist
urban
area
and
work
the
urban,
the
rural
jobs
where
they
are
so
that
satellites
are
very
important,
and
I
will
give
an
example
of
a
joy,
chester's
winery
at
grinder
switch,
which
is
about
halfway
between
here
and
memphis,
and
he
opened
a
urban
winery
satellite.
Excuse
me
in
nashville,
and
quickly
followed
within
a
year
and
a
half
with
a
second
urban
location
for
a
satellite.
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He
has
those
two
satellites
composed
70
percent
of
his
sales
he's
still
making
his
product
and
growing
his
grapes
in
grinder
switch,
but
he's
selling
them
in
a
tourist
location,
which
is
the
best
location
for
a
winery.
It's
a
combination
of
our
two
industries
in
tennessee
agriculture
and
tourism.
So
it's
a
hit
for
both
a
combination.
F
Mountainous
in
the
east
and
flat
in
the
west
does
not
generate
a
one
size
fit
all
solution.
We
need
research
in
all
three
grand
divisions
because
we
are
losing
our
grape
growers.
The
wine
act
that
created
the
wineries,
generated
a
planting
and
a
farmer's
moving
into
the
grape
industry.
But
now,
37
years
later,
those
farmers
are
retiring
and
passing
away
and
their
children
are
not
picking
up
the
industry
because
it's
not
growing
as
fast
as
other
industries
grow
and
therefore
it's
not
a
good
use
of
their
time
and
money.
F
And
so,
if
we
don't
have
the
old
wineries
staying
excuse
me
vineyards.
Staying
in
business,
we've
got
to
recruit
new
growers
and
to
recruit
a
new
grower.
You've
got
to
basically
tell
him:
what's
the
best
grapes
to
plant.
What's
the
best
practices
so
you'll
be
successful,
weather
is
a
big
factor
and
the
grape
varieties
that
will
survive
are
critical,
that
we
educate
the
farmers.
We
do
not
want
to
entice
people
to
plant
and
then
go
broke,
and
I
will
give
you
an
example
of
our
bunch
group
grayers
bunch
grape
growers.
F
They
lost
50
to
70
of
their
crop
two
years
ago
and
then
last
year
they
lost
the
same
amount,
it's
all
caused
by
late
frost.
It
gets
warm,
the
buds
start,
pushing
the
plants
start
moving
and
then
they
get
a
freeze
and
the
vine
replicates
the
blooms
lost,
but
only
at
30
to
40
percent
of
the
initial
bloom,
so
they
basically
lose
60
of
their
crop.
F
F
F
Well,
if
your
satellite's,
making
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
you've
got
to
pay
a
wholesaler,
150
000,
then
you're
not
making
any
money,
and
so
it's
not
advantageous
for
a
winery
to
have
a
satellite,
and
if
you
can't
have
a
satellite,
your
sales
are
reduced
anywhere
from
40
to
70,
so
you're
you're
stuck
back
on
the
farm
selling
your
product
and
also
the
same
study
that
ut
did.
That
said,
unless
you
have
2.6
wineries
in
near
proximity
of
themselves,
you
do
you're
not
a
destination
for
the
tourists
to
travel
to
your
location.
F
F
He
now
has
a
bumper
crop
and
he
says
thank
god
that
saved
me.
I've
I've
got
a
200
increase
over
what
I
normally
do,
and
then
he
comes
to
a
tennessee
winery.
Who
has
a
satellite
and
says
you
always
buy
my
fruit.
Here's
my
bumper
crop
and
you'd
say
to
him.
If
I
buy
your
bumper
crop
because
the
cap
is
based
on
production,
not
your
sales,
then
you
put
me
over
the
limit
and
I've
got
to
hire
a
wholesaler
to
transfer
my
product.
F
So
my
problem
with
you
is
that
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
my
partner
for
20
years
growing
grapes
for
me
that
you're
gonna
have
to
let
60
of
your
crop
rot
in
the
field,
because,
if
I
buy
your
crop
like
I
want
to
do
then
I'm
over
my
cap.
I've
got
a
higher
wholesaler
and
I
have
to
pay
him
that
money
not
for
this
this
this
year.
F
Only,
but
I
have
to
pay
him
for
the
rest
of
my
life,
because
under
tennessee
state
law,
I'm
not
allowed
to
cancel
a
wholesale
contract
unless
the
wholesaler
goes
bankrupt
or
I
or
he
refuses
to
pay
me.
That's
the
only
two
grounds
I
can
fire
him
so
and
it's
a
perpetual
contract
forever.
So
I'm
not
signing
it
for
my
life,
but
my
kid's
life
their
lives.
It's
a
it's
good
for
a
million
years
and
I
can't
get.
B
F
B
F
F
We
we
bring
about
20
percent
of
out
of
state
fruit,
that's
mainly
because
the
the
the
majority
of
the
crops
that
are
surviving
in
tennessee
currently
for
the
last
two
years
are
muscadine
and
they
are
a
late
blooming
and
therefore
less
susceptible
to
frost.
But
our
bunch
grapes,
which
are
vidal,
save
all
niagara
concord
chardon,
we
don't
grow
chardonnay,
but
those
are
the
bunch.
Grapes
are
the
ones
we're
importing
chairman
host
claw.
Thank.
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thanks
for
being
here
do
do
all
these
restrictions
fall
under
this
tennessee
wine
act
are
all
of
them
housed
up
in
that.
Yes,
they
are
okay,
if,
if
you
had,
if
one
owner
owned
three
different
vineyards,
do
all
three
of
those
combined
together
make
this
cap
on
growth
or
are
they
all
individual?
Mr.
F
C
F
B
F
D
D
F
F
It
is
naturally
occurring
in
the
fruit.
It's
not
naturally
occurring
to
a
state
that
would
allow
that
product
to
be
preserved
over
a
certain
length
of
time,
so
the
wineries
add
sulfide
to
it
as
a
preservative.
There
are
other
preservatives
that
could
be
added
to
it,
but
sulfides
are
the
least
are
the
most
compatible
with
the
wine
product.
As
far
as
the
consumer
is
concerned,
jaren.
E
E
F
If,
if
they
would
be
that
foolish
to
do
that,
then
yes,
they
could
but
basically
gala,
let's
I'll
just
use
gallo
as
an
example.
Gallow
is
in
every
retail
outlet
in
the
state
over
a
thousand
of
them.
So
if
gallo
came
to
tennessee,
bought
10
acres
of
real
estate,
built
a
winery
and
then
sold
only
gallow
wine
he's
spent
millions
of
dollars
and
he's
competing
with
a
thousand
locations
at
selling
his
product.
E
Beck
well
from
the
from
the
total
wine
lawsuit.
I
think
we've
learned
that
we
can't
just
make
it
tennessee
specific
we
have
to.
Unfortunately,
if
we,
if
we
open
up
all
these
satellites,
then
they
could
come
in
and
without
growing
grapes
in
tennessee
and
and
open
these
am.
I
am
I
wrong
in
my
thinking
there.
F
Yeah
you're
correct,
but
they're
selling,
gallow
wine
in
tennessee
and
they're
already
doing
it
at
the
supermarkets
and
you're
right
that
they
can
do
whatever
the
tennessee
wineries
do.
However,
if
you
look
at
wine
at
the
there
are
24
states
and
that's
the
low
number
it's
up
to
36
different
areas,
but
we'll
use
we'll
use
the
most
harsh
level.
F
These.
These
states
allow
satellite
sales
and
it's
not
for
a
little
while,
but
it's
for
north
carolina,
it's
been
16
years
and
that
must
be
the
most
the
best
kept
secret
in
the
world.
That
gallow
doesn't
know
that
they
can
open
satellites
in
north
carolina
because
they
could-
and
it's
been
that
way
for
16
years,
and
they
could
open
up
satellites
in
24
other
states
too,
and
they
never
have.
So
you
got
to
ask
yourself:
why
aren't
they
doing
it?
If
it's
been
legal
in
all
these
states
for
over
15
years?
F
And
the
question
is
I
mean,
the
answer
is:
excuse
me:
is
they
can't
make
any
money
at
it?
The
distribution
system,
through
wholesalers
for
the
california
wines,
is
the
most
efficient
way
to
distribute
their
product
and
they're
smart
businessmen
and
they
go
with
the
best,
the
most
profitable
way
for
them
to
distribute
and
the
wholesale
system
serves
them
well
with
97
percent
of
the
market.
So
they
don't
want
to
come
in
here
and
open
satellites
in
any
and
tennessee
would
be
one
of
the
least
states
because
of
our
population
densities
that
they
would
want
to.
F
B
Okay,
further
questions
see
none.
Thank
you,
mr
collier.
We
are
going
to
go
back
in
session.
You
you
may
depart
the
table
if
you
want
to,
or
you
can
remain
seated
right
there.
Whatever
all
right.
We
one
thing
that
I
did
not
mention
members
is,
let's
talk,
dale
carr
dale
is
we're.
I
stopped
by
and
I
my
this
is
the
latest
from
our
member
chairman.
Carr
surgery
went
well
quite
successful,
he
is
he
was,
he
was
discharged
and
he
is
home
but
he's
having
a
tough
time.