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House Public Service Subcommittee - March 9, 2022 - House Hearing Room 4
B
B
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
recognizing.
I
am
not
speaker
sexton,
but
I
am
honored
to
carry
this
on
his
behalf,
members
and
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
his
initiative
to
support
our
twra
and
tbi
officers
this
based
on
the
makeup
of
this
team.
This
committee,
we
all
passed
legislation
a
few
years
ago
to
support
our
highway
patrolmen
and
allowing
them
providing
an
exemption
where
we
went
from
30
to
25
years
to
allow
them
to
get
the
80
percent
the
80
percent
for
their
health
insurance.
C
B
B
B
Okay,
he
is
in
another
committee.
We
will
roll
this
three
spaces.
Item
number
four
is
item
number
four
is
house
bill
1584
by
leader
camper.
It
has
been
taken
off
notice,
house
bill.
1584
has
been
calendared
three
times
in
this
committee
and
failed
to
pass
without
objection.
The
bill
is
sent
to
the
special
calendar
item.
Number
five
is
1583
by
leader
camper.
It
has
been
taken
off
notice,
house
bill.
1583
has
been
calendared
three
times
in
this
committee
and
failed
to
pass
without
objection.
The
bill
is
sent
to
the
special
calendar
item.
B
B
B
E
E
B
E
Chairman
last
week,
we
were
here
on
the
on
the
discussion
of
the
ownership
of
the
bedford
nathan
bedford
forest
bust,
and,
if
I
may,
madam
chair,
I
would
like
to
give
full
time
that
I
have
to
to
go
out
of
session
and
to
have
a
mr
edward
phillips,
who
is
the
forrest
family
attorney,
and
he
would
like
to
present
this
distinct
difference
between
this
artifact
and
any
other
artifact.
That
is
in
the
museum
held
today.
E
B
F
Name
is
h,
edward
phillips,
I'm
an
attorney
for
the
forest
family
and
I
have
represented
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans
in
various
proceedings
in
tennessee
the
state
of
north
carolina.
So
I'm
here
before
you
to
discuss
this
matter.
F
What
I
can
say
is
is
that
the
history
of
this
matter
or
the
history
of
this
bust
in
particular,
the
item
goes
back
to
1973
into
senator
doug.
Henry
senator
henry
was
a
member
of
the
sons,
confederate
veterans
and
he
had
asked
for
a
resolution
to
place
before
both
the
house
and
the
senate.
So
it's
started
in
the
senate
and
it's
a
senate
joint
resolution
number
54.
F
F
So
this
is
where
senator
doug
henry
started,
whereas
there's
an
empty
niche
on
the
second
floor
of
the
state
capitol,
which
would
be
appropriate
for
the
display
of
a
bust
of
general
forest
and
whereas
the
joe
johns
joe
johnson
camp
28
of
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans
has
evidenced
the
desire
to
procure
and
appropriate
a
bus
to
general
forest
for
display
in
the
niche.
So
now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
senate
of
the
88th
general
assembly.
F
The
state
of
tennessee,
the
house
of
representatives,
concurring
that
the
tennessee
arts
commission
is
requested
and
directed
to
work.
The
joe
johnston
camp,
28
of
the
sons,
confederate
veterans
and
any
other
person
or
organization
which
may
be
interested
toward
procurement
of
a
suitable,
heroic
bust
of
general
nathan
bedford
forest
for
display
in
an
appropriate
niche.
On
the
second
floor
of
the
capitol,
be
it
further
resolved
that
copies
of
this
resolution
be
sent
to
the
chairman
of
the
tennessee
arts,
commission
and
the
commander
of
the
joe
johnson
camp
sons
of
confederate
veterans.
F
F
He
did
not,
and
if
it
was
vetoed,
it
would
have
to
go
through
the
process
all
over
again
like
a
vetoed
piece
of
legislation,
but
what
had
happened
was
during
that
period
of
time
once
the
resolution
was
passed,
joe
johnston
camp
with
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans,
moved
forward
and
worked
toward
raising
funds
and
procuring
the
bust,
and
it
was
their
understanding,
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans
that
this
bust
would
be.
On
the
second
floor
of
the
state
capitol,
it
was
an
agreement,
it
was
binding,
it
was
a
resolution,
it
was
resolved.
F
But
this
one
we
submit
that
based
on
fact
when
it
was
finally
put
in
place
in
1978.
It
was
put
in
there
and
there
was
controversy.
Then
this
particular
bus
has
had
controversy
surrounding
it
since
the
time
of
its
inception
and
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans,
there's
a
national
level
organization,
and
there
are
divisions
within
that
for
each
of
the
states
that
are
part
of
the
organization.
F
B
G
Thank
you
chair,
lady
appreciate
him,
mr
phillips.
So
let's,
let's
back
up
so
this
was
bound.
Then,
let's,
let's
touch
on
that
again,
okay
and
and
so
what
happened,
the
bust
was
supposedly
then
going
to
be
there
perpetually.
I'm
I'm!
Actually
I'm
saying
this
very
simply,
but
I'm
simply
I'm
simply
a
simple-minded
guy.
So
let's
just
get
down
to
the
bottom
line.
It
was
supposed
to
be
there
forever
perpetually.
Is
that
correct
that.
F
F
Correct,
and
that
is
why
the
sun's
confederate
veterans
is
coming
before
you
today,
asking
that
it
be
returned
to
them,
and
the
forest
family
is
also,
you
know
fully
with
the
sun's
confederate
veterans.
With
regard
to
that
particular
issue,
and
the
bottom
line
is
this:
is
that,
unlike
any
other
thing
that
has
come
into
any
other
artifact
or
object
that
has
come
into
the
inventory
of
the
state
museum,
this
one
came
in
in
1978
to
the
state
capitol
two
years
later
in
1980,
it
comes
into
the
inventory
of
the
the
history
museum.
F
Two
years
later,
I've
been
told.
Well
that
was
just
a
gap.
You
know
this
long
process,
getting
paperwork
done
two
years.
So
at
this
point,
what
happens
is
in
my
mind
is
that
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans
there's
this
resolution,
it's
resolved.
It
has
the
force
of
an
agreement,
and
all
the
parties
agreed
at
that
time
that
this
is
what
was
to
be,
and
it
would
be
perpetual.
G
So,
if,
if
this
is,
if
this
isn't,
if
it
proves
unsuccessful
today
to
pass,
then
what
are
the
the
options
of
the
sons
of
the
confederate
of
the
vet,
our
veterans,
what
what
would
be
the
next
step
for
them
if
you're,
if
you're
allowed
to
disclose
that
to.
F
I
am,
and
we
have
discussed
this
matter
with
the
leadership
of
the
tennessee
state
history
museum.
We
would
have
to
go
through
the
transfer
process.
However,
what
the
family
and
the
sons
confederate
veterans
fear
is
that
this
has
been
such
a
political,
hot
potato
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
and
it's
been
everybody's
you
know,
wants
to
punt
it
somewhere
else.
F
F
We
wouldn't
have
that
legal
basis
upon
which
to
come
before
the
general
assembly
and
say
please
make
sure
that
this
carve
out.
That
originally
happened.
That
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
process
to
get
our
item
back
because
we
realize
you
know
the
original
agreement
was
breached
and
we
just
won
it
back.
G
F
I
H
F
Understand
that,
whether
it's
a
monument,
that's
on
a
square
of
a
town
here
in
tennessee
or
city,
or
it's
by
the
courthouse
or
wherever
it
may
be-
or
are
these
these
other
artifacts
that
come
into
existence
that
it
was
believed
in
1973?
This
was
perpetual.
That
was
the
understanding.
No
one
had
the
idea
that
these
things
would
eventually
come
down
and
people
wanted
them
moved
and
I
have
to
admit
you
know,
with
the
horrific
death
of
george
floyd.
There
has
been
this
reckoning
nationwide,
but
this
reckoning
should
not,
you
know,
hide
objects.
F
F
They
are,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
inanimate
objects
that
people
put
value
or
place
scorn
on
and
the
one
thing
that
the
family,
in
their
view,
the
way
they've
looked
at.
This
is
at
elm
springs,
which
is
the
international
headquarters
for
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans,
because
they
do
have
entities
in
other
countries.
F
They
know
that
their
ancestors
lieutenant
general
nathan,
bedford
forrest
and
his
wife,
marianne
montgomery
forest,
are
now
reinterred
there.
As
of
last
september,
the
equestrian
statue
from
memphis,
I
was
the
attorney
who
obtained
that
and
brought
it
back,
and
we
we
are
going
to
re-erect
it
and
rebuild
the
plaza
and
restore
it,
and
there
will
be.
F
There
are
items
from
the
gravesite
that
have
significant
historic
value
that
are
going
to
be
placed
on
an
exhibit
at
the
museum
and
the
family
believes
that
all
these
things
should
be
together,
because
this
is
the
final
resting
place
for
their
ancestors
and
it
makes
sense,
but
they
wouldn't
come
to
you.
Nor
would
the
sev
come
to
you
and
demand
something
that
doesn't
belong
to
them
or
that
they
didn't
procure
and
pay
money
to
create.
H
J
F
Make
this
happen
so
you
have
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans
and
everybody
understanding
that
this
resolution
has
passed.
It's
been
approved
been
signed
by
the
governor,
and
now
we
have
a
duty.
We
have
an
obligation
to
fulfill
in
order
to
meet
this
resolution
now
granted
it
took
them
quite
some
time
to
raise
the
funding.
F
H
F
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
sure
that
your
museum
and
your
sons
of
the
confederate
veterans
is
is
a
wonderful
place
and,
as
you
said
earlier,
that
you
talk
about
this
statue
being
punted
around
and
I
think
it
probably
has
been
talked
about
and
punted
around.
But
I
think
what
I've
heard
is
the
tennessee
state
museum
is
really
really
proud
to
have
it,
and
I
think
that
more
and
more
many
more
people
will
be
able
to
see
it
in
our
state
museum
than
they
will
in
your
museum.
And
I
would
like
to
offer
that.
F
I
appreciate
the
sentiment,
but
I
will
tell
you
the
the
biggest
thing
on
the
plate
right
now
in
terms
of
the
forest
family
is
restoring
that
plaza.
It's
going
to
take
between
150
to
200
000.
To
do
that,
we
don't
have
the
sun's
confederate
veterans,
doesn't
have
the
funding
to
do
that,
and
we
believe
that,
based
on
the
resolution
that
we
procured
it,
we
paid
for
it
and
there
are
donors
who
do
come
to
the
museum
and
ask
for
items
back
and
they
are
given,
but
they
go
through
the
process
and
procedure.
F
The
only
thing
that
we're
saying
that
makes
this
different
is
that
without
resolution
54,
we
would
have
to
go
through
that
process
of
procedure.
But
we're
saying
that
this
was
carved
out.
There
was
a
an
agreement
made.
It
was
a
handshake
and
in
1973
and
in
2022
a
handshake
still
means
what
it
means
in
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
and
I
believe
that-
and
I
believe
that
this
agreement
envisioned
the
perpetual
placement
of
the
bust
in
the
state
capitol
building,
as
does
the
sun's
confederate
veterans
and
the
forest
family.
L
F
L
F
L
F
L
F
You
know
looking
at
the
lieutenant
commander-in-chief
of
the
national
organization.
The
answer
is
no.
I
suppose
that
we
could.
I
mean
it's
worth
x
whatever
x
is
I
mean,
for
example,
if
this
helps
answer
your
question,
the
monument
the
equestrian
statue
from
memphis
is
roughly
worth
4.5
million
dollars.
L
L
Based
on
what
mr
march
march
marsh
excuse
me
represent
has
suggested,
and
I
would
encourage
the
state
museum
and
the
attorney
general
and
your
organization
to
mediate
this
and
try
to
come
up
with
a
conclusion
short
of
legislative
action,
because
I
think
there
is
it
appears
there
should
be
room
for
objective
people
to
come
to
a
conclusion:
that's
satisfactory
to
both
sides.
Anybody
with
that!
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
M
Hi,
my
name
is
actually
how
executive
director
of
the
tennessee
state
museum-
and
I
have
with
me
richard
white-
a
curator
with
the
tennessee
state
museum.
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
today
because
the
comments
say
to
talk
about
process
and
throughout
this
process.
M
M
We
understand
how
this
item
came
to
be
into
the
collection,
just
some
points
of
clarification,
because
in
the
resolution
it
talks
about
the
tenancy
arts
commission.
At
that
time
the
tennessee
state
museum
was
under
the
tennessee
arts.
Commission.
M
M
The
state
museum
was
involved
in
the
installation
of
the
this
art
fact
of
the
bust,
through
state
appropriation
also
paid
for
the
base
of
the
bust
and
the
installation.
So,
in
addition
to
being
a
part
of
the
procurement
and
the
creation,
they
were
a
part
of
the
installation
and
also
accepted
the
gift.
On
behalf
of
the
state
tenancy
I
have
met
richard
and
I
both
have
met
with
representatives
of
the
sons
of
confederate
veterans.
M
We've
also
met
with
representative
weeper,
we're
happy
to
kind
of
look
at
the
process
and
how
we
can
you
know,
look
at
this,
but
at
the
same
time
I
I
just
want
to
say
we
do
have
the
bus
on
display.
We
do
have
a
a
robust
annual
visitation
even
coming
out
of
covet.
M
There
are
requests
to
see
the
bus
we
we
do
have
the
bus
on
display
with
other
items
that
were
once
in
the
tennessee
state
capitol,
and
we
also
stand
behind
the
interpretation
not
only
of
this
item
but
of
nathan,
bedford
forest
at
the
state
museum
and
putting
that
in
context
with
tennessee
history.
Thank.
M
C
K
C
C
So
I
don't,
I
don't
think
that
you
put
in
a
request
to
move
the
bus
to
the
museum
and
I
just
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
this
and
I
appreciate
the
work
of
the
committee.
So
thank
you.
H
M
So
may
I
may
I
ask
representative
what
specifically,
what
specifically
is
laid
out
in
the
heritage
protection
act?
What
is
the
specifics
of
what
it's
in
the
act.
M
C
H
M
Okay,
so
so
why
did
it
send
tennessee
heritage
protection
act?
Is
the
process
to
request
a
waiver
from
the
heritage
protection
act?
So
as
so,
the
process
was.
The
state
capital
commission
requested
a
waiver
for
the
movement
as
outlined
heritage
protection
act
and
then
went
to
the
tennessee
historical
commission
for
the
approval
of
the
waiver,
and
so
that
was
the
process.
M
In
terms
of
you
know
what
process
the
state
museum
has
sort
of
next
steps
there.
There
is
some
language
about
a
transfer
by
an
accredited
museum
in
the
heritage
protection
act,
but
this
would
be
the
first
time
that
has
been
tested.
So
I've
been
very
open
and
honest
about
that,
and
and
then
there's
also
additional
museum
policies
and
procedures.
H
Okay,
so
just
in
my
point,
I
think
is
that
the
heritage
protection
that
was
passed
by
the
legislature,
it
was
in
law.
The
process
is
laid
out.
The
prices
followed
the
law,
whether
there
was
a
resolution
73
or
not.
This
was
a
state
law,
that's
followed
the
process
and
that's
why
the
bus
is
where
it
is
now.
So
that's
thanks
for
the
clarification.
G
G
G
Oh,
it
was
a
virtual
meeting
then,
and
of
course
I
could
have
asked
mr
phillips
this
I
apologize
to
him.
I
I
just
failed
to
think
of
this
was
was
was
the
sons
of
the
confederate
veterans
was.
H
M
B
Alexander
you're
recognized
and
I'm
not.
O
E
E
Yes,
representative
wendell,
I'm
agreeing
with
you
that
there
is
a
there's
a
way
forward
in
this.
I
would
like
to
mention
that
this
morning
the
tennessee
museum
came
to
my
office
and
we
we
sat
and
talked
said.
How
can
we
move
forward
on
this?
This
obviously
is
very
on
both
ends,
we're
both
very
passionate
about
it.
E
There
is
some
language
in
the
bill
before
you,
that's
a
bit
broad
for
the
tennessee
museum,
and
we
have
agreed
that
we
would
like
to
work
on
this
language
and
make
it
even
more
narrower
legal
on
both
sides
and
come
back
with
an
amendment
to
you
for
next
week
and
then
take
a
vote.
We
would
like
to
be
able
to
try
that,
and
so
that's
the
process
going
forward.
I've
talked
with
both
sides
of
the
party.
B
L
Would
I
be
out
of
order
if
I
introduced
a
group
from
morgan,
county
morgan,
county
leadership,
who's
in
the
back
row
and
almost
the
next
back
row,
thanks
for
being
here
today,
we're
glad.
L
They're
all
much
smarter
they've
had
a
chance
to
be
tutored
by
ken
yeager
this
morning,
so
they're
looking
good.
Thank.
B
I
This
is
truly
just
the
cleanup
bill
last
year.
If
you
will
remember,
we
changed
the
council
on
pensions
and
insurance
to
only
consider
pension
matters.
Unfortunately,
there
were
a
couple
places
in
the
code
that
we
didn't
get
insurance
moved
out
and
it
still
is
requiring
insurance
matters
to
be
referred
to
that
council.
So
this
just
simply
clears
that
up,
and
it
makes
absolutely
you
know
without
any
doubt
that
insurance
matters
no
longer
come
before
that
council.
B
B
B
K
B
K
You
chair
lady
house
bill
2743
under
current
law.
The
tennessee
consolidated
retirement
system
board
of
trustees
establishes
the
investment
policy
for
the
retirement
systems,
funds
which
may
but
does
not
currently
include
the
divestment
from
certain
investments.
The
amendment
allows
this
bill
allows
the
investment
committee
for
the
tcrs
board
of
trustees
to
expeditiously
divest
from
any
investment.
It
has
with
an
entity
found
to
be
doing
business
with
or
supporting
a
country
sanctioned
by
the
us
department
of
treasury.
B
K
B
B
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair,
lady
and
members.
I
I
was,
I
was
in
the
severe
county
courthouse.
I
guess
a
couple
months
ago,
had
an
officer
come
up
to
me
and
said:
hey
I've
got
a
friend
that
wants
to
come,
be
a
police
officer
in
tennessee,
but
there's
a
statute
that
prohibits
him
from
doing
so.
He
served
in
the
military,
united
states
marine
corps,
but
he's
not
a
resident
of
the
united
states
of
america
he's
a
legal
permanent
resident.
Well,
the
code
says
that
I
guess
they
kept
them
together.
N
You
have
to
be
honorably
discharged
from
the
military
and
a
legal
permanent
resident
to
qualify
for
to
be
in
law
enforcement
here
in
tennessee.
So
I
worked
with
department
of
safety.
I
worked
with
elizabeth
stroker
and
she
says
that
this
would
work
for
him
and
it
wouldn't
allow
for
folks
that
are
dishonorably
discharged
or
just
I
guess,
there's
just
a
loophole
there
that
we
need
to
kind
of
tidy
up
and
allow
for
more
folks
to
come
and
be
able
to
work
in
law
enforcement
here
in
tennessee.
N
B
P
Thank
you
madam's,
chair,
lady
and
committee.
This
is
a
the
buy
american
bill.
It's
in
regards
to
steel
in
the
united
states.
You
know,
as
we've
been
seeing
in
the
current
times,
democracy
has
a
price
and
the
price
is
either
with
cash
we
pay
now
or
it's
a
heavier
cost
later,
as
we're
seeing.
P
P
K
P
Yeah,
but
you
know
they're
they're
looking
at
this
as
that
call
they're
not
taking
in
consideration
the
jobs
and
the
dollars
that
will
be
recycled
through
our
economy
by
keeping
the
money
at
home.
You
know
a
dollar
spent
in
a
community
or
paid
in
wages
in
a
community
gets
cycled
back
seven
times
through
that
community.
P
K
P
H
You
two
things:
one
you
we
we've
got
to
start
buying
american
products.
We've
got
to
start,
stop
relying
on
other
other
countries,
but
but
two
you
just
got
this
fiscal
note
just
now.
Right,
yes,
have
you
so
you
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
fiscal
review.
No,
is
that
something?
I
think
you
should,
because
I
oh
most
definitely
a
lot
of
times.
I
talk
to
physical
review.
I
have
to
explain
my
bill
to
them
and
then
they
they
redo
the
note.
H
B
C
J
J
The
commission
was
created
in
response
to
the
need
to
review
and
improve
how
the
state
handles
severe
child
abuse
cases
we
meet,
along
with
the
child,
counselors
judges,
law
enforcement
and
dcs
workers
each
month
to
do
a
deep
dive
investigation
of
these
specially
chosen
cases.
The
bill
I
bring
today
is
the
result
of
some
of
the
issues
and
roadblocks
we
find
that
have
resulted
in
legislation
that
will
help
the
department
of
children,
services
on
children
and
youth
to
do
their
job
and
protect
severely
abused
children.
B
C
In
this
bill,
it's
we're
looking
to
allow
the
state
agencies
to
not
require
back
alert
on
certain
positions
inside
the
department
isn't
totally
up
to
them.
It's
just
pretty
simple
in
that
section,
it's
hopefully
to
help
allow
some
of
the
departments
to
get
some
more
people
in
their
workforce.
I
know
one
department
in
particular
is
very
short,
and
I
think
that
it
pretty
much
extends
to
all.
So
it's
just
opening
the
door,
and
it
still
is
totally
up
to
the
department
heads.
B
B
B
N
Thank
you.
This
bill
was
amended
would
allow
us
to
treat
ems
workers.
Similarly,
where
we
do
to
law
enforcement
in
that,
if
they
retire,
because
there
is
a
shortage
of
ems
workers,
they
can
come
back
for
a
short
period
of
time.
The
locals
can
buy
them
back
into
the
workforce
for
a
short
period
of
time.
N
They
have
to
do
it
within
one
year
of
their
retirement,
and
this
will
allow
our
local
ems
and
our
communities
to
be
able
to
rehire
these
folks
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
has
no
state
impact,
just
local
impact
and,
unlike
the
ones
we
did
for
law
enforcement,
this
bill,
which
is
the
reason
for
the
amendment
sunsets
this
provision
in
2025.
So
we
can
relook
at
it
and
see
how
what
the
impact
was
we.
N
G
You
chair,
lady,
real
quick
chairman
that
I
know
you
said
within
a
a
year.
I
think
right.
So
is
there
a
term?
Well
I
mean
so
once
once
they
come
back.
Is
there
a
limit
limitation
on
the
number
of
years
that
they
can
serve?
Then.
G
H
O
N
You
know
the
body
has
in
upper
east
tennessee
and
even
in
our
district.
I
N
G
Good,
thank
you
sponsor
and
thank
you
chair,
lady.
B
B
O
O
What
was
taken
out
is
in
item
3b.
O
The
last
sentence
was
removed,
of
that
it
retains
contained
information
necessary
for
members
of
the
public
to
access
a
meeting,
and
so
what
was
taken
out
was
if
the
governing
body
has
an
internet
link
where
the
meeting
isn't
live
streamed,
then
the
internet
link
must
be
provided
to
the
public
with
a
public
notice.
The
reason
why
the
administration
wanted
that
one
sentence
they've
had
recent
incidents
that
were
their
live
stream
meetings.
O
B
O
Because
what
the
what
the
bill
does
is
the
bill
updates
section
108
of
the
open
meetings,
act
pertaining
to
governing
bodies
and
meetings
that
are
held
up
by
electronic
means.
The
amendment
makes
the
bill
and
what
it
does
is
section
108
allows
members
of
the
state
boards
and
commissions
and
emergency
communication
district
boards
to
meet
using
electronic
means.
O
This
part
of
the
code
was
first
established
by
state
boards
and
commissions
in
1990
and
has
since
been
updated
through
the
years,
but
it
has
never
been
updated
to
require
boards
to
allow
its
members
to
pres
to
participate
by
electronic
means.
Also,
it
allows
the
public
to
view
and
listen
to
electroelectronic
means
technology's
gotten
ahead
of
the
law.
O
It
makes
a
bill
and
it
does
make
the
administration
deferred.
This
is
a
good
bill,
it
brings
code
up
to
date
and
it
allows
the
public
to
view
and
listen
also.
It
allows
the
boards
to
operate
legally
by
electronic
means
and
and
protects
them
as
well,
just
more
or
less
it's
kind
of
a
cleanup
bill.
To
sum
up
some
degree.
B
B
B
L
This
is
house
bill,
let's
see
2551
and
this
what
this
hospital
does
is.
This
existing
language
does
not
explicitly
allow
local
governments
to
conduct
oral
underwritten
interviews,
presentations
and
demonstrations
with
proposers,
but
just
only
discussions.
L
B
B
B
B
A
What
house
bill
1852
would
do
is
it
would
provide
a
a
pathway
for
veterans
that
have
served
in
the
military
during
certain
periods
of
armed
conflict
to
be
able
to
buy
up
to
four
years
into
the
tennessee
consolidated
retirement
system.
Now,
we've
seen
this
idea
floated
before
over
the
years,
and
and
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
background
prior
to
1975.
A
The
time
was
given
to
the
veterans,
so
they
actually
didn't
pay
for
it.
All
of
the
cost
was
eaten
by
the
the
state
or
the
local
government.
I'm
sorry
I'm
out
of
breath.
I
literally
ran
here
from
committed
to
get
over
here,
but
what
this
bill
does
differently
is,
instead
of
everyone
that
served
in
the
military,
but
from
1975
to
the
present.
A
It
actually
picks
out
certain
periods
of
time
that
we
were
actually
at
war
and
it's
those
periods
of
time
that
you're
eligible
to
buy
and
what
makes
it
different
than
other
versions
of
this
bill
in
the
past
is.
It
would
require
the
employee
to
pay
nine
percent
for
every
year
that
they
wanted
to
buy
based
on
their
current
salary.
A
You're
recognized
thank
you
ma'am
chairman,
so
it's
nine
percent
of
whatever
their
current
pay
is
so
if
someone
was
was
currently
working
for
the
state
or
local
government
and
of
course
it
is
permissive
for
local
government,
but
if
they
were
making
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
then
they
would
pay
nine
percent
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
would
get
them
one
year.
Thank
you.
B
A
Madam
chairman,
so
the
amendment
is
the
bill
and
what
the?
What
this
does
it
kind
of
works
in
tandem
with
the
bill
that
I
just
described
to
you,
that
bill
we've
been
working
with
the
treasurer
for
about
two
years
on
to
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
the
a
lot
of
the
details
that
we
came
up
with
on
the
previous
bill.
A
B
A
No
further
explanation:
the
amendment
makes
it
bill.
Madam
chairman,
any.
B
B
D
D
Ma'am
I've
got
drafting
code
14286.,
okay,.
D
You
very
much
this
bill
and
the
bill
right
after
this
one,
both
came
to
me
from
my
county
attorney.
A
man
named
brian
reagan,
has
been
a
dear
friend
for
a
long
time
actually
used
to
work
at
the
ag's
office,
but
dickson
county,
the
house
bill
1760.
The
amendment
we're
talking
about
here
deals
with
this
issue.
D
It
was
determined
that
subsection
f
was
intended
to
address
employment
records
held
by
the
employing
governmental
entity
and
that
this
subsection
did
not
require
the
requested
redactions.
So
this
amendment
just
clarifies
that
subsection
f
only
applies
to
that
county's
employees
or
former
employees.
If
the
general
assembly
wants
to
entertain
legislation
to
help
out
law
enforcement
officers
from
other
jurisdictions,
I
think
that
would
be
a
separate
issue,
but
it
was.
It
was
determined
that
we
really
needed
some
clarifying
language
to
clarify
that
subsection
f
only
applied
to
that
county's
employees
or
their
former
employees.
B
B
D
Thank
you
very
much.
This
one
is
really
again
from
the
same
source.
If
the
caption
would
have
held
it,
they
they
would
have
been
one
bill,
but
so
this
is
kind
of
a
continuation
but
again
dealing
with
with
public
records
inquiries.
So
section
one
of
the
amendment
deals
with
the
following.
So
parties
to
litigation
are
permitted
to
obtain
records
through
the
normal
discovery
process.
This
amendment
is
intended
to
limit
the
use
of
the
public
records
act
to
circumvent
the
process
established
under
various
court
rules
for
obtaining
records.
D
When
a
government
entity
is
a
party
section,
two
deals
with
that
governmental
entities
are
increasingly
receiving
and
then
must
respond
to
records
requests
from
individuals.
Who've
been
contacted
by
other
organizations
who
may
be
out
of
state
seeking
records
for
the
purpose
of
conducting
student
or
other
research.
D
Preparing
state
law.
Surveys
are
preparing
to
litigate
some
matter,
so
the
individuals
are
being
used
for
their
residency
qualifications,
so
somebody
from
california
may
call
somebody
in
dixon
county
and
say:
hey
you're
a
resident.
So
why
don't
you
call
and
make
this
request
for
me,
and
I
don't
know
if
they're
compensating
them
somehow
or
whatnot,
but
it's
it's
making
it
very,
very
troublesome
or
very
difficult
for
the
county
government.
So
the
individual
is
just
the
vehicle
for
an
otherwise
unqualified
entity
or
individual
to
obtain
the
record.
D
B
B
B
I
Bill
city,
business
enterprises
to
publish
an
annual
report
listing
each
state
department,
additional
goals
and
achievements,
and
it
will
cover
information
in
reference
to
the
types
of
contracts
and
number
of
contracts
that,
let's
say,
small
businesses,
individuals
with
disabilities,
disabled
veterans-
and
it
will
give
a
detailed
annual
report
to
the
general
assembly
on
what
those
numbers
look
like.
Basically,
and
the
office
of
odbe
currently
prints
an
annual
report
containing
such
information.
I
B
G
I
G
K
B
L
B
G
Thank
you
not
as
long
as
it
isn't
substantive
and
is,
I
think,
do
we
turn
at
this
point
to
to
our
attorney
to
legal,
to.
A
Josh
houston
for
legal
services,
this
amendment-
I
don't
think,
would
be
substantive.
It
just
requires
the
department
of
human
resources
to
develop
the
policies
and
procedures
necessary
to
implement
the
section
so
just
to
clarify.
K
I
B
B
B
B
I
C
C
You,
madam
chairman,
and
the
amendment
again
makes
the
bill.
I
came
to
my
attention
a
few
months
ago
that
court
reporters
that
are
in
the
courtroom
all
day,
long
that
are
contracted
court
reporters
to
work
in
that
courtroom.
If
they
are
sued,
the
attorney
general's
office
cannot
represent
them,
that's
a
problem.
They
used
to
be
apparently
years
ago,
state
employees
and
there
are
lots
of
other
areas
where
we
make
exceptions
where
the
attorney
general's
office
can
represent
that
person
in
a
lawsuit.
C
B
B
B
K
Thinking
about
chairman,
the
amendment
makes
the
bill
I
was
working
with
the
treasurer
to
so
we
can
reduce
the
cost
of
the
original
bill
and
what
this
does
is
it
allows
a
retired
member
of
the
tennessee
consolidated
retirement
system
to
cancel
the
selected
but
designated
of
the
beneficiary,
and
it's
just
to
sign
a
new
one,
and
apparently
this
can't
be
done
until
this
bill's
ran.
You
can
cancel
one
for
a
divorce
or,
of
course,
a
death
would
lose
a
beneficiary,
but
this
right
here
would
just
change
that.
B
B
K
K
B
B
C
B
B
B
I'm
sorry
item
number
35
is
house
bill
2872
by
chairman
weaver.
It
has
been
rolled
to
the
hill
item.
Number
36
is
house
bill,
17
17
17
by
representative
warner.
It
has
been
rolled
to
the
hill
item.
Number
37
is
house
bill,
17
18
by
representative
warner.
It
has
been
taken
off
notice.
Item
number
38
is
house
bill
2485
by
representative
warner,
I'm
going
to
roll
that
to
the
hill
item.
Number
32
is
house
bill
2227
by
chairman
wendell.