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Description
House Floor Session- 25th Legislative Day- April 19, 2023
A
Mr
Sergeant
arms
invite
the
members
into
the
chamber
and
close
the
doors
out
hereby
clear:
the
house,
representatives
of
the
113th
General
Assembly
State
Tennessee
now
in
session.
One
of
the
members
please
stand
with
the
visitors
in
government.
Please
stand
remain
standing
through
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
representative
Jernigan
will
introduce
the
chaplain
of
the
Day
represent
Jernigan.
Thank.
B
C
Namaste
in
good
morning
Jason,
it's
a
great
honor
and
privilege
to
be
here.
Amongst
all
of
you,
my
name
is
Richa
Patel
with
me
are
Sean
by
Patel
babia
by
Patel
and
by
Patel
he'll
be
singing.
The
peace
prior
today
called
the
shantipat
today
with
us
are
also
prominent
members
from
other
key
Hindu
organizations
of
Tennessee
Gujarat,
Cultural,
Association
and
Gujarat
Association
of
Middle
Tennessee.
C
C
The
three
main
pillars
of
this
Hindu
fate
that
summarize
the
life
of
the
late
Guru
pramuk
sawimaraj
and
the
current
promo
song
number
one
and
the
joy
of
other
lies
their
own.
Two
spirituality
speaks
the
language
of
love
and
three
better.
The
World
Around
You
by
bettering
yourself,
Universal
values
of
humility,
compassion,
integrity
and
perseverance
are
the
cornerstones
of
BFS,
along
with
Seva
or
selfless
service
to
society.
C
Today,
vfps
is
one
of
the
largest
Hindu
Fates
in
the
state
of
Tennessee,
with
large
constitutions
throughout
in
Nashville
Memphis,
Knoxville
and
Chattanooga
baps
has
organized
numerous
walkathons
blood
drives
health
fairs,
educational
seminars,
youth
conventions,
Sports
tournaments
addiction,
free
campaigns,
prayers
of
peace
and
many
other
children.
Events
throughout
our
great
state,
thus
bfps
today,
led
by
Maraj,
has
taught
us
to
love,
respect
care
and
help.
All
the
fundamental
principle
of
Hinduism
is
ahimsa,
meaning
non-violence
in
thoughts,
actions
and
speech.
C
With
this
sentiment
in
mind
and
what
the
National
Day
of
Prayer
coming
up
very
soon
on
May
4th
2023,
we
would
like
to
offer
a
prayer
with
all
of
you
there
to
have
infinite
and
Limitless
peace,
good
light
and
Enlightenment
for
all
in
our
great
state
of
Tennessee,
we'll
pray
for
peace
revealed
through
in
Tennessee
and
for
all
to
be
blessed
with
the
utmost
happiness,
success,
prosperity
and
the
best
of
health.
Finally,
we'll
pray
for
everyone's
well
wishes
and
tendency
to
come
true
and
for
great
progress
of
our
great
state
of
Tennessee.
C
C
D
D
C
May
peace
Prevail
everywhere
lead
me
from
the
illusion
to
reality.
Lead
me
from
Darkness
to
light.
Lead
me
from
Death
to
mortality,
may
all
be
happy,
may
all
be
free
of
disease.
May
all
see
that
which
is
good
May.
No
one
suffer
May,
the
heavens,
be
peaceful.
May
the
space
in
the
sky
be
peaceful,
May,
the
Earth
be
peaceful
May
the
waters
be
peaceful,
May
the
herbs
bring
peace,
May,
the
trees
and
plants
be
peaceful,
May,
the
forces
of
nature
be
peaceful,
may
God
bring
us
peace
May
everyone
be
at
peace.
C
F
F
With
his
mentor
and
where
is
in
addition
to
open,
in
addition
to
opening
for
Mr
Rooks,
he
also
written
Garth
Brooks.
Last
four
singles,
including
number
one
song,
asked
me
how
I
know
which
he
wrote
by
himself
and
co-writing
the
follow-up
singles.
That's
what
cowboys
do
all
day
long
and
dive
bar
and
where's.
F
A
songwriter
and
musician,
who
has
brought
much
pride
to
his
home
state.
Now,
therefore
be
resolved.
House
represents
the
113th
general
assembly
of
state
of
Tennessee,
the
Senate
occurring
that
we
hereby
honor
and
come
in
Mitch
Roselle
for
his
outstanding
achievements
as
a
songwriter
and
musician
and
extending
him
our
best
wishes
for
continuing
success
in
all
his
future.
Endeavors
chairman.
G
G
Representative
rich
said
he
was
going
to
take
me
under
his
wing
and
teach
me
how
to
be
a
representative
now
I
know
before
you
answer
that
you're
thinking
his
experiment
failed
miserably,
but
he
tried
his
best
and
he
taught
a
bunch
of
us
freshmen
and
became
a
friend
to
a
lot
of
us.
I
came
in
with
the
speaker
and
Ron
Williams
several
of
y'all
Barrett
was
one
of
the
guys
who
said
I'm,
gonna,
be
your
friend
and,
and
he
was
good,
it
was
awesome
to
sit
beside
him,
learn
the
ways
of
of
the
chamber.
G
He
was.
He
was
big
time
and
making
sure
we
did
everything
right
and
since
that
time,
representative
Rich,
he
retired,
went
on
to
do
some
cool
stuff.
He
works
with
our
parole
board,
but
we've
always
been
friends
four
or
five
years
ago.
He
called
me
says:
Jeremy,
have
you
heard
of
this,
this
musician
Mitch
Roselle
I'm
like
not
yet
he
said
I'm
going
to
send
you
something
watch
this.
So
he
sends
me
this
video
and
I'm,
like
oh,
my
gosh.
G
This
is
a
real
musician
right
here
now,
y'all
y'all,
don't
know
this,
but
I'm
I'm
a
scratch
musician,
not
very
good,
but
I'm
good
enough
to
know
who's
Got
Talent,
even
though
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
myself
when
I
listen
to
somebody
I
know
if,
if,
if
they're
solid
musicians,
so
I
I
was
listening
to
Mitch
and
hearing
some
songs
that
he
was
writing
the
next
next
thing.
I
know
he's
touring
with
Garth
Brooks
and
for
those
of
you
I,
don't
know,
I
think
Garth
Brooks
is
the
greatest
musician
entertainer
of
all
time.
G
He's
he's,
just
in
my
opinion,
he's
the
very
best
so
and
I'm
saying
all
right.
Garth
Brooks
is
this.
Is
this?
Guy
is
something
neat
Barrett
and
I
were
talking
audacity.
I
would
love
to
have
him
on
the
house
floor
and
just
recognize
him,
and
also
for
y'all
to
hear
who
have
not
heard
his
skill
for
y'all
to
hear
some
of
his
songs,
so
Mr
Speaker
with
that
introduction
and
with
your
Indulgence
I,
would
like
Metro
sale
to
come
and
entertain
us
with
a
few
songs.
Yes,.
A
H
Thank
you,
Mr
speaker.
Thank
you,
representative
phase
and
I
appreciate.
It
is
everybody
feeling
all
right
this
morning,
all
right,
I'm
gonna
play
you
a
couple
songs
to
get
out
of
the
way
here,
as
a
lot
of
y'all,
probably
know
being
in
Nashville.
This
is
a
this
is
a
co-writing
town
and
I
wrote
this
song.
It
was
my
first
number
one
with
my
favorite
co-writer
myself.
I
J
I
J
I
J
One
day
you'll
meet
the
girl,
you
swore
you
never
find
start
feeling
things
you
never
felt
and
spending
all
your
time
try
to
figure
out
how
she
got
this
hold
on
you
and
when
you
start
to
fall,
you
hold
on
to
your
pride
start,
building
up
your
walls
and
never
let
her
get
inside
and
you
push
her
away
cause.
That's
all
you
know
how
to
do
and
then
she'll
leave
and
you
won't
beg
her
not
to
go.
Oh
ask
me
how
I
know
then
you
best
put
this
song
on
repeat.
E
I
J
H
So
this
is
a
song
that
I
wrote
when
I
was
10
years.
Old
I
was
woken
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night
by
some
noise
downstairs
and
I
went
downstairs
and
my
family
was
gathered
around.
It
was
about
three
or
four
in
the
morning,
and
my
grandfather
told
me
that
my
dad
was
killed
in
a
car
accident
and
coming
to
find
out
that
it
wasn't
just
my
dad.
It
was
my
grandfather
and
my
grandmother-in-law
as
well,
and
it
was
kind
of
a
freak
accident.
H
They
lived
in
a
small
town
in
East
Tennessee
and
my
dad
was
in
his
work
van
with
my
grandmother-in-law
coming
one
way.
My
grandfather
was
in
his
truck
coming
the
other
way
and
a
drunk
driver
hit
my
grandfather's
truck
from
behind
and
sent
him
into
my
dad's
Lane
and
they
hit
head-on
and
it
killed
all
of
them
except
the
drunk
driver.
So
it's
the
reason
I
started
playing.
Guitar
was
my
dad.
H
He
always
wanted
me
to
play,
and
so
I
picked
it
up
right
after
high
school
and
didn't
really
have
any
intentions
to
do
anything
like
this
with
it.
But
I
just
fell
in
love
with
it
and
wrote
a
bunch
of
songs
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
songs
and
really
struggled
to
figure
out.
Why
I
never
wrote
a
song
about
my
dad
and
I
think
it
was
just
I
didn't
know
how
to
access
that.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
just
a
little
too
much
and
fast
forward.
H
J
J
J
We
take
that
boat
and
drop.
It
grab
the
rods
and
reels
and
hop
in
he'd,
open
up
that
tackle
box
and
he'd
open
up
to
me
and
he'd,
say:
son,
a
home.
You
know
how
much
I
love
you
and
when
you're,
not
with
me
I'm,
always
thinking
of
you
you're
the
drive
inside
my
heart,
the
reason
I
reach
for
the
stars
above
said
my
world
revolves
around
you.
J
J
I
A
J
J
J
G
K
L
M
M
That
that
linked
arms
calling
on
this
body
to
act
to
do
something
about
the
gun,
violence
in
our
state-
and
it
was
the
most
powerful
thing-
I've
been
a
part
of
to
see
children
moms
dads,
it
was.
It
was
amazing
and
to
all
of
you
that,
were
there
I
know,
I
know
several
people
from
this
body
were
there
yesterday.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
what
I
believe
to
be
a
historic
event,
and
hopefully
the
move
that
pushes
us
over
the
line
to
act.
So
thank
you.
O
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
since
we're
nearing
the
end
of
session
I
wanted
to
recognize
the
transportation
intern
I
believe
she's
in
the
gallery
somewhere,
Paola
Santiago
there.
She
is
waving.
She's
she's
been
a
joy
and
a
real
asset
to
the
committee
and
congratulations
on
her
passing
the
LSAT.
She
may
be
headed
to
law
school.
A
P
F
R
A
F
Speaker
On
house
consent
calendar
number
two
item:
two
House
Bill
654
has
been
objected
to
by
chairman
Clemens
item
nine
on
consent.
Calendar
two
House,
Bill
634
has
been
objected
to
by
Clemens
item
10
House
Bill
170
has
been
objected
to
by
chairman
Clemens
item
11
House
Bill
592
has
been
objected
to
by
chairman
Clements.
S
T
A
A
F
Speaker,
pursuant
to
the
motion
made
during
the
last
session,
we're
picking
up
on
Monday's,
regular
calendar
item
26
would
be
the
first
item
on
that
calendar
for
those
who
are
using
dashboard
in
the
chamber
and
those
that
are
following
along
in
the
public.
If
you
will
go
back
to
Monday's
date
and
dashboard,
you
will
be
able
to
find
this
calendar
and
once
again
Mr
Speaker.
We
will
be
starting
with
item
26.
representative.
F
U
F
F
U
U
U
Second,
is
it
allows
a
person
with
an
active
industry
license
or
credential,
let's
say
a
plumber
electrician,
or
a
heating
and
air
guy
to
provide
instruction
in
a
CTE
classroom,
but
only
if
the
instruction
is
supervised
by
a
licensed
teacher.
Who
will
be
the
teacher
of
record
for
the
course
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
with
that
I
renew
my
motion.
A
A
A
F
A
U
You
Mr
Speaker
under
current
law,
when
Library
materials
are
challenged,
it
must
go
before
the
local
school
board
of
Education
or
the
charter
school
governing
body
for
a
decision.
This
bill
does
not
change
that
what
the
bill
does
is.
It
allows
for
an
administrative
level
stop
with
the
Lea
or
the
charter
school
to
see
if
a
resolution
can
be
reached,
if
no
resolution
is
reached,
then
it
goes
to
the
local
school
board
or
Charter
governing
body
for
that
decision.
That
is
simply
all
that
this
bill
does
and
I
renew
my
motion.
U
You
Mr
Speaker,
yes,
currently,
it's
my
understanding
that
a
lot
of
leas
are
currently
actually
doing
it.
This
route
they
have
set
up
a
committee
in
the
local
leas.
This
bill
is
just
simply
clarifying
that
that
is
okay
and
it
gives
a
level
stop,
because
some
of
these
questions
could
be
very
simple.
Some
of
them
could
be
really
handled
in
a
very
easily
way,
and
what
this
is
doing
is
just
really
clarifying
that
they
can
do
that
represent.
W
X
A
U
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
They
would
be
mediating,
maybe
challenges
by
a
parent
or
a
teacher
or
even
a
student
I,
guess
that
maybe
the
book
had
content
or
something
that
wasn't
appropriate.
It
could
be
many
things
it
could
be
mediated.
It
could
be
just
a
very
simple
question
on
a
book,
so
that's
the
reason
that
this
bill
only
addresses
how
that
mechanism
can
work
represent.
X
Pearson
in
reading
this
legislation,
one
of
the
things
that
was
concerning
is
there's
a
creation
or,
to
your
point,
the
clarification
of
a
process.
For
instance,
if
someone
wants
to
ban
a
book
that
they
find
for
any
reason
not
to
be
worthwhile
for
their
children
to
read
and
we've
talked
about
the
types
of
books
that
too
often
are
on
that
list
because
of
race
or
sexual
orientation,
and
things
like
that.
X
U
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
If,
if,
if
the
Reds
illusion
resolution
can't
be
met
in
the
local
Lea,
let's
say
if
it
gets
to
a
point
where
it
needs
to
go
to
the
local
school
board
or
the
local
Charter
board,
then
that's
where
that
would
go.
If
it,
if
it
can't
be
resolved,
it
will
still
be
able
to
go
to
elected
officials
where
it
should
go
and
that's
how
that
mechanism
would
work.
It's
just
a
it's
just
a
level
stop!
That's
all
this
bill
does.
Is
a
level
stop.
U
U
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
and
reply
Hicks.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
legislation.
It
brings
Clarity
a
lot
of
times.
We
don't
need
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
board
and
on
a
public
issue.
Things
are
not
what
they
seem,
and
so
it
can
be
headed
off
kind
of
at
the
pass
early
on,
and
so
thank
you
for
bringing
clarity.
A
A
Z
A
AA
A
Y
A
A
A
Y
Y
AB
So
so
this
thank
you
Mr
Speaker.
So
this
would
allow
us
to
tap
into
State
funds
to
replace
those
federal
funds
for
which
Tennessee
taxpayers
are
also
paying
their
money.
So
again,
we're
going
to
be
double
billed
for
the
same
services
for
individuals
in
the
state
of
Tennessee,
because
the
governor
refused
Federal
funding
for
HIV
chairman.
A
A
A
Y
You
Mr
Speaker
in
the
long
and
short
of
this
is
all
County.
Jails
generally
have
state
prisoners,
but
they
also
have
County
prisoners
and
the
county
jail
is
responsible
for
the
health
needs
and
the
medical
needs
of
inmates,
and
right
now,
the
cost
of
medicine
for
somebody,
who's
HIV
in
a
County
Jail
costs
around
three
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
a
month.
Y
That's
breaking
the
back
of
a
lot
of
County
jails.
So
this
bill.
Up
to
this
point,
we
had
no
mechanism
to
access
some
of
this
money
for
treatment
and
what
this
bill
does.
It
allows
County
jails
to
apply
for
money
either
through
Ryan,
White
or
through
State
funds
to
help
offset
some
of
the
cost
of
HIV
treatment.
That's
The,
View.
A
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
This
is
sponsor
yield.
Thank
you,
so
I'm
I
usually
have
a
habit
of
if
bills
come
through.
My
committee
or
subcommittee
I
try
to
address
those
concerns
in
the
committee
and
leave
questions
for
other
people
on
the
floor.
That
might
not
have
had
the
privilege
of
hearing
those
bills,
but
this
is
an
exception.
K
K
That
is
going
to
bring
a
major
expense
on
all
of
our
communities
and
I
get
that
these
drugs
are
expensive,
they're
costly,
but
overall
they
help
prevent
a
further
spread
and
a
further
increase
from
HIV
to
AIDS,
and
so
I've
asked
again
and
again.
Why
and
I
haven't
gotten
a
sufficient
answer?
Why
we
have
to
remove
that
requirement
because
I'm
all
for
trying
to
access
federal
funds?
You
know
the
CDC,
as,
as
you
know,
has
has
offered
us
federal
funds
for
some
reason.
K
That
is
why
that
requirement
exists,
and
so,
when
we
remove
that
requirement,
it's
very
concerning
to
me
and
then
the
other
thing
is
these
grants.
The
money
doesn't
even
cover
the
general
population.
Let's
remove
the
inmates.
Let's
just
look
at
the
general
population,
the
Ryan
White
funds,
the
money
that's
available.
If
you
look
I,
think
it's
so
you
know
27
million
dollars,
maybe
that
money,
if
we
decide
to
accept
it
and
want
to
get
it,
it's
not
going
to
even
cover
the
general
population.
K
Now
we
are
further
depleting
that
money,
that's
available
to
the
General
Public
and
trying
to
dispense
that
amongst
these
County
jails.
So
these
have
been
my
concerns
and
again
sponsor
and
I.
I
did
tell
you
in
Committee
just
to
be
clear
to
everybody
in
this
chamber
that
I
was
going
to
raise
these
same
issues
because
I've
raised
them
again
in
sub
and
full
and
have
yet
to
get
a
sufficient
response.
K
Y
German
housing,
the
the
bill
doesn't
remove
that
requirement
of
jail
under
existing
law
in
Tennessee.
How
has
to
provide
medical
care
and
medicine
for
for
inmates?
You
have
to
do
that.
There
is.
Nobody
else,
can
do
that
and
you're
required
by
law
to
do
it,
so
the
Bill's
Focus
doesn't
remove
any
of
those
requirements.
That's
already
an
existing
law,
but
the
way
the
law
was
written
before
there
was
no
way
to
access
any
money
for
this
particular
treatment.
AC
Y
AD
The
reason
those
funds
were
refused
by
our
state
to
be
to
receive
them
from
the
federal
government
is
that
part
of
that
funding
was
assigned
and
meant
for
Planned
Parenthood,
so
money
that
comes
from
the
federal
government
can
have
strings
attached
and
some
of
them
are
hidden.
Some
of
them
are
apparent,
but
that
I
understand
was
the
reason
for
refusing
that
funding.
It
was
not
to
refuse
to
treat
patients
and
I.
Think,
along
with
that
statement,
statement
was
clearly
stated
that
cheap
funding
for
the
treatment
will
continue.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker.
Y
X
AA
A
AA
AA
You
Mr,
Speaker
members,
House,
Bill,
1254
or
sand
belt
1007
is
is
a
very
simple
and
Improvement
elections.
Improvement
cleanup
Bill,
actually
there's
there's
a
couple
of
or
three
points
then
I
want
to
mention
in
section
one.
It
removes
the
directive
that
allows
the
voter
social
security
number
to
be
part
of
the
voter's
information
sent
to
the
polls
so
anyways
that
eliminate
that
and
two
it.
It
simply
makes
it
permissive
that
the
voter
is
able
to
sign
the
printed
application.
AA
That's
printed
from
the
electronic
poll
book
and
then
finally,
three
the
savings
is,
is
quite
substantial.
It
at
one
point
the
the
primary
ballots
were
printed
on
different
colored
papers.
So
this
will
that
will
this
will
eliminate
that
and
it'll
it'll
be
all
white
paper
and
with
that
Mr
Speaker
I'll
entertain
any
any
any
questions
and
I
might
add,
Mr
Speaker
that
this
has
been
vetted
through
five
committees
so
anyway,
but
with
that
I'll
entertain
any
questions.
A
A
A
F
AG
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
This
amendment
would
remove
section
two
from
the
bill
section
2
from
this
bill
in
includes
a
Prohibition
where
school
districts
would
be
prohibited
from
deducting
professional
dues
from
teachers
paychecks.
This
amendment
would
eliminate
or
remove
from
the
bill
that
prohibition
move
to
adopt.
A
AH
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
First
of
all,
members
I
support
this
bill.
It's
an
original
form.
This
is
this.
Bill,
went
through
tremendous
debate
in
the
education,
education,
Administration
subcommittee
and
the
education
Administration
full
committee,
that
is,
the
body
that's
entrusted
with
this
type
of
legislation
to
direct
policy
to
be
heard.
On
the
floor.
AH
AH
We
believe
in
the
committee
system
and
the
lanes
that
we
all
stay
in
or
we
don't
and
we'd
be
setting
a
dangerous
precedent
here
on
policy
that
another
committee
that
does
not
have
the
purview
on
that
policy
because
it
does
not
fall
under
what
their
direction
is
to
start
amending
legislation
before
it
gets
to
the
house
floor.
I'm
asking
you
that
you
vote
this
amendment
down.
AH
A
That's
a
proper
motion
proper
seconded
the
Parliamentary
I
got
it.
The
permanently
situation
is
that
representative
Moody
has
moved,
or
vice
chairman
Baum
has
actually
moved.
Amendment
number
two
representative
has
moved
that
motion
to
the
table
that
cuts
off
all
debate,
except
for
that
of
the
sponsor,
which
is
vice
chairman
bomb.
You
are
recognized.
AG
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Let
me
make
two
comments.
The
finance
committee,
or
a
majority
of
the
members
on
that
committee
felt
like
the
two
sections
of
this
bill
should
be
separated.
The
first
section
deals
with
a
pay
increase
for
teachers.
The
second
section
involves
this
prohibition
prohibiting
leas
from
deducting
professional
dues
from
teachers.
AG
Paychecks
finance
committee
felt
like
those
were
two
separate
issues
and
should
be
in
two
separate
bills,
and
I
should
also
add
that
teachers
would
be
the
only
state
employees
that
would
be
prohibited
from
having
their
professional
dues
deducted
automatically
firefighters,
police
officers,
other
state
employees,
other
public
employees
would
still
have
that
option,
and
so,
by
adopting
this
amendment
are
voting
not
to
put
it
on
the
table.
It
would
eliminate
that
prohibition
section
two
from
this
bill
Finance
would
ask
that
you
vote
against
laying
the
amendment
on
the
table.
A
The
primary
situation
is
Vice.
Chairman
Baum
has
moved
adoption
of
amendment
number.
Two
representative
picky
has
moved
that
motion
to
the
table.
We
are
voting
on
the
tabling
motion,
all
those
in
favor
vote
Iowa
in
the
Bell
Rings.
Those
opposed
vote,
no,
as
every
member
voted
does
any
member
wish
to
change
their
vote.
A
A
F
A
A
V
AI
V
A
AI
A
Right
just
to
be
clear,
let's
try
to
let's
try
to
be
very
clear
here.
The
amendment
2
that
was
adopted
took
out
the
tea
dues
from
being
payroll
deducted
Amendment,
one
that
is
before
us
would
put
the
TA
dues
back
in
meaning
they
could
not
be
payroll
deducted
all
right
just
trying
to
make
it
clear
representative
hurt.
AB
Thank
you,
Mr,
Speaker
and,
and,
to
put
this
a
little
bit
more
plainly
is.
We
would
essentially,
by
adopting
this
amendment,
be
discriminating
against
teachers
Assad
in
different
from
any
other
profession.
We're
going
to
put
a
restriction
on
them
that
wouldn't
apply
to
any
other
profession.
I
mean
that's,
that's
very
clear.
What
we're
doing
this
is
a
sweeper
Amendment,
bad
Amendment.
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
Lambert.
Q
So,
as
usual,
I'll
strongly
disagree
with
my
friend
from
Davidson
County
and
he's
definitely
Twisted
the
issue.
This
bill
includes
teacher
pay,
raises
I,
don't
know
a
person
on
this
floor
that
doesn't
support
teachers.
There
is
an
organization
that
is
allowed
to
do
something
that
very
few
organizations
are
allowed
to
do,
and
that
is
to
do
wage
withdrawals
for
their
dues.
Q
This
may
affect
that
organization,
but
I
know
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
teachers
that
are
not
a
member
of
that
organization
so
to
to
say
that
somehow
or
another,
this
is
against
teachers
just
because
there's
a
National
Education
Association
that
doesn't
stand
for
anything
that
my
teachers
in
my
County
stand
for
to
try
to
paint
this
like.
That
is
completely
disingenuous.
So,
let's
fight
about
the
amendment
we
can
discuss
whether
or
not
one
organization
can
do
news
deduction
and
I,
don't
think
any
of
them
should
be
allowed
to
do
due
seduction
from
their
wages
and
I.
Q
Think
that's
a
conversation.
We
should
continue
to
have
so
we're
dealing
with
one
organization
now,
but
dues
deductions
are
a
thing
of
the
past.
You
can
do
a
credit
card.
You
can
use
bank
account
withdrawals,
you
can
do
just
about
any
other
way.
You
can
send
us
check
in
the
mail
still
I'm
sure
many
of
us
still
use
checks,
but
you
can
venmo
it
if
you'd
like
we're
just
dealing
with
wage
deduction
in
this
particular
bill.
Now
we
just
voted
on
this
on
the
other
amendment.
Q
I,
don't
know
if
it'll
turn
out
any
different
in
this
one,
but
I
want
to
be
really
clear,
a
vote
either
direction
or
on.
This
is
about
whether
or
not
an
organization
gets
dues
deduction.
It
has
nothing
to
do
whether
or
not
you
support
your
teachers,
because
this
bill
includes
teacher
pay
raises,
and
so
will
the
budget
we
discuss
later.
AJ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
There
are
a
lot
of
teachers
that
don't
belong
to
the
association,
but
all
of
the
teachers
I've
spoken
to
want
this
prohibition
intact,
so
that
they
can
get
their
dues
deducted
just
like
police,
firefighters
and
other
employees.
So
just
because
teachers
aren't
members,
they
still
support
having
payroll
deduction.
AK
AK
What
got
put
on
stripped
out
section
two
that
was
proper.
There
was
nothing
Shady
about
doing
that
and,
if
that's
not
good
enough
after
it
went
to
budget
sub,
it
went
full.
It
got
stronger
guess
what
stayed
out
section
two!
So
not
only
did
budget
Subs
say
this
bill
should
be
about
125
million
dollars
for
our
teachers.
AK
It
said
we're
going
to
keep
it
focused
on
our
teachers.
Here's
here's!
What's
interesting
about
the
dues
deduction.
We
all
say
we're
about
local
control,
guess
what
the
bill
does
as
it
currently
is
not
the
bill,
but
the
way
the
the
structured
right
now.
Not
only
does
the
Lea
get
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
want
to
do
dues,
the
teachers
get
to
decide
if
they
want
their
dues
taken
out.
So
let's
keep
this
about.
125
million
dollar
pay
increase
for
our
teachers
that
we
can
all
get
up
and
go
back
and
brag
about.
AK
Let's
keep
section
two
if
somebody
wants
to
bring
a
bill
next
year
and
keep
this
separate,
but
let's
just
do
this:
let's
make
sure
that
we're
even
across
the
board,
as
as
chairman
Baum
said,
the
state
actually
takes
dues
out
for
different
organizations.
Let's
just
be
fair
about
this:
let's
be
able
to
go
home
and
brag
to
our
teachers
that
we
gave
them
125
million
dollars.
Let's
keep
this
out.
We've
already
voted
once,
let's
be
consistent
and
I
just
asked
you
with
that,
I
moved
to
lay
Amendment
one
on
the
table.
A
A
V
Thank
you
very
much
speaker
and
I
apologize
to
the
body
for
the
little
bit
of
confusion
and
as
we
go
through
these
amendments,
Amendment
one
is
the
original
bill
that
came
before
the
education
Administration
committee,
as
representative
was
referring
to
it,
gives
125
million
dollar
pay
raise
to
the
teachers,
but
included
in
that
bill
was
that
we
would
remove
any
organization
from
being
able
to
deduct
news
from
from
our
teachers,
as
is
currently
done.
So
that's
the
bill
in
its
original
form.
The
body
will
have
to
make
its
Choice.
At
this
point.
V
This
particular
issue
has
been
before
education
Administration
for
the
past
three
or
four
years,
and
so
I
think
it's
time
to
solve
it
one
way
or
the
the
other.
But
if
you
vote
for
Amendment
one
then
you're
voting
for
the
original
bill
as
it
came
through
education
Administration
committee,
before
it
got
to
finance
that
had
that
Amendment
two
on
there
I
believe
I
am
correct
on
that
Madam
sponsor
and
with
that
I
renew
the
motion.
A
All
right,
well,
we're
in
the
primary
situation
is
Chairman.
White
has
moved
adoption
of
amendment
number
one
chairman
Hicks
has
moved
that
motion
to
the
table.
Let's
be
clear,
we
are
voting
on
the
tabling
motion,
all
those
in
favor
vote
I
when
the
bell
rings.
Those
opposed
vote.
No,
as
every
member
voted
there's
any
member
wish
to
change
their
vote.
A
AL
Q
Short
answer:
no,
so
we
are
raising
the
minimum
teacher
pay
we're
raising
the
teachers
salaries,
so
every
single
local
community
has
to
make
the
same
type
of
budgetary
decisions
that
we
make
here.
We
are
also
putting
in
a
significant
amount
of
money.
We
have
literally
put
in
three
billion
plus
additional
dollars
for
K-12
education
in
the
past
decade,
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
N
X
Q
X
Thank
you.
Some
of
you
don't
know
this.
My
mother,
Dr
Kimberly,
owens-pearson
she's,
been
a
teacher
over
20
years.
I
believe
in
our
teachers
being
well
compensated
for
the
very
hard
work
that
they
do
in
our
schools,
just
as
Educators
to
ensure
that
the
next
generation
of
people
in
our
state
are
given
the
the
the
tools
and
the
knowledge
that
they
need
in
order
to
be
successful.
X
What
is
harrowing
here
is
the
decision
to
tie
Teachers
Pay,
who
should
be
getting
paid
more,
who
deserve
to
be
getting
paid
more
to
an
effort
to
hurt
unionization
in
our
state
when
we
know
that
the
ability
of
people
to
reach
the
middle
class,
the
ability
of
folks
to
engage
in
our
society
to
see
economic
Justice
in
many
ways
has
come
from
the
ability
of
organizations
and
institutions
to
work
in
a
way
that
fights
for
higher
wages.
Better
pay
things
like
this.
A
AC
Was
there
motivation
for
and
I
I
can't
see
the
sponsor
there
she
is.
Was
there
motivation
for
the
part
of
the
bill?
I
know
there
was
motivation,
no
doubt
from
all
of
the
teachers
for
the
actual
raises
and
salary,
but
was
there
any
motivation
from
the
community
Teachers
Community
the
education
Community
for
actually
and
I'm,
going
to
say
something
to
my
tiger
in
a
minute
if
he
doesn't
sit
down
somewhere.
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
members.
This
bill
came
from
the
governor
and
I
committed
to
him
to
carry
it
intact,
so
there
was
no
motivation,
except
for
how
it
was
presented
to
be
carried
from
the
governor's
office
and
I'd
also
like
to
remind
you
all
that,
while
the
tea
has
been
singled
out,
it
covers
any
of
our
professional
teaching
organizations
in
Tennessee
and
I.
If
you'll
go
on
the
tea
and
Pat
websites,
they
already
have
their
apps
set
up
they're
using
the
wording
need
to
change
the
way
you
pay.
Dues
change
now.
AF
Pay
your
dues
now
through
the
app
they're,
both
they've
been
encouraging
their
members
to
do
that.
So
there's
it's
just
freeing
up
our
locals
where
it
is
before
this
bill
will
pass
where
the
locals
are
doing
that
for
them
it
frees
up
our
leas
and
those
people
that
are
doing
that
right
now
to
do
other
things
and
lets
each
member
of
whichever
organization
deduct
the
dues
the
way
it's
convenient
for
them
through
the
app
or
through
their
Bank.
AC
AC
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
I
still
oppose
the
bill.
I
think
that
those
in
my
community
are
satisfied
with
the
way
the
convenience
of
having
that
payroll
deduction
available
to
them
and
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
get
into
that
business.
I
think
that
we
need
to
let
the
local
folks,
as
you
heard,
one
of
your
someone
in
your
leadership
say
earlier
stay
on
to
the
local
folks
business
when
they
can
handle
it
better
when
they
have
a
better
sense
of
what
their
local
folks
won't.
AC
AF
AF
AJ
AJ
We
brought
DCS
employees
up
to
50
000
this
year
and
that's
such
a
great
amazing
and
needed
thing
we're
talking
about
what
five
years
down
the
road
before
we
get
there.
Currently
teachers
are
making
less
today
than
they
did
10
years
ago,
when
you
consider
cost
of
living.
I'm
curious,
I
think
that
there's
very
there's
every
likelihood
that
by
the
time
we
get
to
fifty
thousand
that's
not
going
to
keep
up
with
cost
of
living
either.
AJ
It
sounds
like
a
lot
right
now,
but
we
should
be
doing
this
today
and
we
should
be
maintaining
payroll
deduction,
because
that
is
what
the
teachers
want,
whether
they
belong
to
pet
or
tea
or
any
of
those
organizations,
and
so
I
feel
like
this
poison
pill
in
this
bill
is
just
another
way
that
this
legislature
has
attacked
our
teachers
and
it's
another
thing:
that's
going
to
push
them
out
and
so
I
think
we
should
honor
teachers
I
think
that
we
should
give
them
the
raise
they.
So
desperately
deserve,
but
without
the
dig
at
them.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
and
I
joined
my
calling
colleague
from
Knox
County,
and
what
most
of
us
have
done
over
the
last
several
years,
this
body
has
added
nearly
3
billion
in
new
education
dollars.
Since
2011.
we've
increased
the
per
pupil
average
spending
by
more
than
three
thousand
dollars,
and
we've
supported
our
teachers
of
861
million
in
salary
increases
over
those
years.
We
cannot,
we
should
not,
and
we
will
not
stop
now
and
I
want
to
thank
the
leadership
of
this
body,
because
the
majority
of
you
have
voted
for
most
of
those
budgets.
Q
AJ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Those
steps
are
tiny.
It
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money
when
you
add
it
all
together
over
the
years,
but
we're
talking
about
tens
of
thousands
of
teachers
and
you
can
look
at
a
teacher's
paycheck
and
you
can
see
that
for
each
individual
teacher.
That
does
not
amount
to
a
lot,
and
so
it
sounds
like
big
dollars
you
all,
but
we're
not
keeping
up
with
the
rest
of
the
country,
we're
not
even
keeping
up
with
the
rest
of
the
southeast,
and
this
is
a
disservice.
Q
AJ
A
A
AF
Y
A
AF
You
Mr
Speaker
and
members
what
this
bill
will
do
as
amended.
It
will
require
all
jails
and
prisons
to
to
report
certain
violent
and
sexual
offenses
committed
by
an
inmate
to
the
appropriate
district
attorney
within
five
business
days.
It
authorizes
the
court
to
sentence
an
inmate
consecutively
for
offenses
committed
while
incarcerated
and
Mr
Speaker.
With
that
I
renew
my
motion.
AF
X
Q
Mr
Speaker
I
apologize.
This
particular
member
has
been
up
a
lot.
I
was
not
paying
attention,
I
should
have
sir.
The
question
was
the
difference
between
concurrent
or
consecutive
sentencing.
Concurrent
sentencing
runs
at
the
same
time,
consecutive
sentencing
would
run
one
after
the
other.
So
if
a
person
received
a
one-year
sentence
and
a
one-year
sentence
concurrently,
then
it
would
be
a
one-year
sentence.
If
they
receive
a
one-year
sentence
and
one
year
sentence
consecutively,
then
it
would
in
essence
be
a
two-year
sentence
represent.
X
Pearson,
yes,
and
so
interesting
on
this
bill
that
you're
putting
before
us
it
talks
about
serving
multiple
sentences
consecutively
and
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
understand
and
you
understand
the
effect
of
that
would
be
extending
people's
time
in
prison,
which
you
have
shared.
We
don't
have
any
evidence
that
that's
going
to
do
any
benefit
either
for
the
people
who
are
incarcerated,
the
folks
who
are
in
prison
or
anyone
outside.
X
For
someone
to
go
back
to
court,
a
district
attorney
general
to
receive
this
information
to
go
to
court
to
have
a
hearing
and
for
a
judge
to
decide
on
any
of
these
cases.
There
won't
be
a
significant
cost,
at
least
from
what
the
fiscal
note
here
says.
So
how
many
people
today
would
fit
under
this
legislation
of
his
past.
X
So
potentially
we
could
say
if
it's
not
significant.
Maybe
this
applies
to
one
person,
but
the
premise
of
what's
being
put
forward
by
this
legislative
body
is
finding
ways
to
be
more
punitive,
finding
ways
to
extend
people's
incarceration
with
consecutive
sentencing,
but
I
didn't
see
and
I
wonder
if
you
have
this
in
this
legislation,
resources
about
prevention
and
ways
that
we
would
be
helping
to
actually
rehabilitate
people
who
are
incarcerated.
Is
that
in
this
legislation,
or
is
this
strictly
punitive
chair.
AF
X
X
AF
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsor
for
running
the
bill.
This
came
out
of
an
ad
hoc
committee.
We
had
this
past
summer
and
the
reason
the
Bill's
here
is
because
we
found
out
that
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
crime
going
on
in
institutions
and
it
wasn't
being
reported
to
the
the
local
D.A.
Y
So
this
bill
fixes
that
and
says:
if
you
commit
crime
in
prison,
there
are
certain
crimes
that
are
going
to
be
reported
to
the
D.A,
whether
he
prosecutes
or
not
his
own
business.
He
doesn't
have
to
do
that
if
he
does,
it
allows
the
judge
to
run
this
consecutive.
It
doesn't
force
him
to
do
that.
The
indecent
exposure
is
an
issue
if
it's
intended
to
harass
and
intimidate
a
prison
guard,
then
that's
why
that's
in
there
too.
So
it's
a
good
bill
and
I'm
glad
you're.
Here.
A
AN
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
sponsor
for
this
legislation.
One
of
the
issues
that
was
brought
to
me
immediately
after
being
elected
were
some
of
the
issues
that
this
legislation
addresses
because
I
have
a
state
prison
in
my
district,
and
we
have
got
to
hold
these
inmates
accountable
for
their
actions,
regardless
of
what
it
is,
and
so
I
appreciate
this
legislation
and
would
encourage
everyone
to
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
F
A
A
A
AO
AO
AO
X
There's
a
concern
I
have
here
related
to
an
exception
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
a
part
of
the
bill
here
and
it's
under
covid-19
vaccinations
and
I'll.
Read
this
for
folks.
Present
law
prohibits
a
health
care
provider
from
providing
a
patient
who
is
a
minor
with
a
covid-19
vaccine
without
first
obtaining
written
consent
from
the
miners,
patients,
parent
or
legal
guardian.
This
bill
deletes
an
exception
to
the
provision
that
applies
common
law
to
the
miners
capacity
to
consent
to
receiving
a
covid-19
vaccine.
AO
AO
AO
X
Yeah
reading
this
bill
having
an
exception
that
doesn't
take
into
account
people
and
children
who
are
neglected,
children
who
are
minors
who
may
be
being
abused
by
parents
or
legal
Guardians
who
may
not
be
giving
them
this
letter
or
access
to
the
health
needs
that
they
would
like
to
have
such
as
a
vaccination
which
may
be
required
for
a
sport,
or
something
like
that.
You
are
supporting
legislation
that
is
not
taken
into
account.
The
worst
circumstances
that
people
can
be
in
for
whatever
political
reasons.
The
reality
is.
X
Everybody
is
not
in
a
predicament
or
a
position
where
they're
able
to
have
a
parent
who
can
sign
off
forms
who
can
take
them
to
the
doctors
and
all
of
these
other
things,
and
you
are
removing
the
agency
of
young
people
who
are
already
in
very
difficult
positions,
and
so
in
the
research
that
you've
done.
Have
you
seen
where
there
has
been
any
good
in
removing
the
agency
of
young
people
in
difficult
positions
as
it
relates
to
not
being
able
to
get
access
to
their
Public
Health
Care
needs.
X
AO
AO
Generally,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
The
proof
is
actually
in
the
National
childhood
vaccine
injury
Act
of
1986,
which
requires
prior
to
the
administration
of
a
vaccine,
boosted
the
vaccine
injury
table
to
a
minor
the
health
care
professional
that
provides.
The
vaccine
must
provide
an
information
sheet
from
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control
to
to
the
parents
or
legal
representatives
of
the
minor
that
is
law.
Sir.
AO
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
to
the
concerns
that
were
expressed.
We
have
a
department
of
children's
services
whose
responsibility
is
to
take
care
of
abused
and
neglected
children.
They
are
included
in
this
bill
as
far
as
documentation
requires
are
concerned
and
health
care
providers
are
not
empowered
to
override
the
Judgment
of
parents
or
Guardians.
Regardless
of
the
situation.
Sir.
AJ
AJ
Thank
God
that
the
students
were
16
and
we
were
able
to
get
them
to
one
of
our
community
schools
to
see
the
nurse
practitioner
because
the
parent
was
not
able
to
sign
for
them
or
to
to
take
care
of
them.
So
there
are
many
situations
in
my
years
and
working
in
schools
where
children
could
not
get
the
care
that
they
need,
but
for
the
fact
of
the
mature
minor,
Doctrine
and
I'm
certain
that
these
kids
often
take
a
leadership
in
their
home
and
probably
are
more
responsible
about
those
decisions.
AJ
Oftentimes,
unfortunately,
than
their
parents
and
all
the
time,
even
with
DCS
looking
and
they
think
it's
okay,
but
these
kids
are
staying
sick
for
a
long
time
and
then,
when
they
come
to
school,
there's
no
one
to
pick
them
up,
they're
they're
staying
at
school.
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
these
kids
are
taken
care
of
and
oftentimes.
They
are
the
most
mature
voice
in
their
family
foreign.
A
AO
You
Mr
Speaker
in
the
opinion
of
the
case
of
parnam
versus
J.R
442
U.S
code,
584
1979,
the
United
States
Supreme
Court
wrote
simply
because
the
decision
of
a
parent
is
not
agreeable
to
the
child
or
because
it
involves
risk,
does
not
automatically
transfer
the
power
to
make
that
decision
from
the
parents
to
some
agency
or
officer
of
the
state.
The
same
characterizations
can
be
made
for
a
tonsillectomy,
appendectomy
or
other
medical
procedures.
AO
AJ
I,
think
that
a
lot
of
people,
I've
heard
a
lot
of
folks
in
this
body
say
that
you
know
times
have
changed
and
we're
in
situations
where
we
have
some
of
the
highest
opiate
use
in
the
country.
We've
got,
unfortunately,
parents
that
aren't
doing
their
due
diligence
and
the
kids
are
suffering
for
it,
and
so
some
parents
aren't
doing
it
and
oftentimes
DCS
doesn't
think
it
meets
the
level
of
in
interfering.
AJ
AO
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
as
the
speaker
took
exception,
to
a
1979
case.
I'll
quote
one
from
2000.
In
the
case
of
Troxel
versus
Granville,
the
Supreme
Court
wrote
that
the
14th
amendments
due
process
clause
has
substantive
components
and
provides
for
heightened
protection
against
government
interference
with
certain
fundamental
rights
and
liberties.
A
AJ
AO
AJ
AO
Chairman
Reagan,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
the
court
cases
that
I've
quoted
to
you
say
that
those
are
parental
rights.
They
are
not
to
be
usurped
by
any
government
agency
to
include
schools
or
doctors
acting
without
those
parental
consents
or
in
the
case
of
the
department
of
children's
services,
for
which
this
bill
provides
a
path
for
them
to
obtain
permission
to
give
shots
or
vaccines
to
children.
And
with
that
explanation,
sir
I
renew
my
motion.
AO
A
A
A
F
A
A
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
members
of
the
house
floor,
a
house
bill
433
is
deals
with
simply
this
in
2019,
the
Tennessee
General
Assembly
passed,
the
esa
or
the
educational
saving
account
Act.
This
legislation
that,
before
the
day
only
applies
to
Ellie
the
current
legislation
only
applied
to
Davis
and
the
Shelby
counties.
V
It
was
designed
primarily
to
address
those
students
in
districts
with
priority
schools
or
old,
performing
schools,
and
also
for
students
whose
household
income
does
not
exceed
twice
the
federal
income
eligibility
for
the
free
lunch
program,
which
is
around
75
000
a
year.
Its
design
is
a
school
choice
program
for
students
where
educational
options
are
limited.
V
This
legislation
today
only
adds
the
counties
of
Hamilton
and
Knox
and
a
break
before
you
at
the
crest
of
colleagues
from
Hamilton
and
Knox
County,
there's
absolutely
no
change
in
the
original
bill,
which
caps
the
first
year
at
5
000
students,
as
I
mentioned.
This
only
adds
two
counties
to
the
current
counties
that
Davidson
and
Shelby,
and
those
counties
being
Hamilton
and
Knox
County's.
With
that
Mr
Speaker
I
renew
my
motion
chairman.
Z
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
so
I
understand
there
were
lawsuits
that
would
just
resolved,
but
there
was
never
a
five-year
pilot
program.
You
have
to
go
through
the
program.
The
reason
that
this
General
Assembly
back
then
reluctantly
agreed
to
it
after
a
long
debate
was
because
it
was
a
pilot
program
in
two
urban
areas.
Z
V
Thank
you
in
2019,
when
the
general
assembly
passed
it,
it
wasn't
our
intention,
but
it
did
get
tied
up
in
court
for
two
years.
The
Tennessee
Supreme
Court
did
make
a
decision
that
it
was
constitutional,
so
we're
now
eight
months
into
the
first
year,
so
being
a
pilot
program
means
that
we
would
collect
data
over
the
five
years,
but
we're
only
eight
months
into
it,
and
that's
fine,
but
two
other
counties
at
the
request
of
the
colleagues
have
been
asked
want
to
add.
V
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
I
I
disagree
with
the
whole
notion
of
adding
program.
If,
if
you
have
a
control
group,
which
is
what
the
intention
of
this
program
was
to
have
a
control
group,
something
that
you
could
clearly
measure
good,
bad
or
indifferent
and
you've
done
nothing
on
that
part
of
this
program
said
you
were
going
to
have
parent
surveys.
Part
of
the
program
said
you
were
going
to
have
the
Comptroller
audit
the
program.
What
are
the
results
of
the
parent
surveys
and
the
comptroller's
audit,
which
were
conditions
of
this
pilot
program?
Z
V
Martin,
thank
you.
The
original
intention
of
the
bill
back
in
2019
was
for
it
to
be
Statewide,
but
what
was
passed
out
eventually
came
down
to
Davis
and
Shelby.
Now
they
was
in
Shelby
County.
They
wanted
more
counties,
they
didn't
want
to
be
the
only
two,
but
that's
what
the
legislation
was
passed
now.
We
would
like
to
add
a
couple
more
around
the
state
to
make
sure
that
we're
collecting
enough
data
like
I,
say
we're
only
eight
months
into
it.
It's
not
the
general
assembly's
fault
we
don't
have.
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
This
is
a
clear
violation
of
any
kind
of
program,
any
kind
of
situation
where
you're
going
to
actually
try
to
make
something
good
to
go
into
it.
If
you're
baking
a
cake
and
you
put
it
in
the
oven,
20
minutes
later,
you
go
and
add
more
sugar
and
stir
things
up.
You
know
what
the
results
are
going
to
be
and
that's
what
you're
doing
you
have
no
discernible
data
on
whether
this
program
is
good,
bad
or
indifferent.
Z
You
know
nothing,
nothing
about
what
the
parents
think
about
the
program:
zero
data
and
you're,
adding
potentially
potentially
thousands
of
students
across
two
of
our
Urban
counties
and
my
last
question
to
you:
if
this
is
such
a
good
unknown
program,
why
aren't
there
any
rural
counties
in
this
program
we're
basically
a
rural
State?
Well,
why
haven't
you
added
any
rural
counties
to
this
pilot
program
extended.
A
V
That
person
I'm
a
big
believer
in
school
choice
for
parents
and
the
because
the
colleagues
from
Knox
and
in
a
Hamilton
County
have
asked
to
be
added
now.
I
think
this
will
give
us
more
data.
You
say
we
don't
know
what
the
parent,
the
parents,
this
is
all
about:
the
parents
being
able
to
choose
so
putting
two
more
counties
into
to
this.
The
cap
is
still
5
000
the
first
year
only
5
000
students
across
the
state
in
these
four
counties.
AS
So
this
this
piece
of
legislature,
I,
keep
hearing,
it
was
passed
in
2019..
Let's
get
one
thing
clear
from
the
very
front:
I
was
on
this
floor.
That
bill
did
not
pass.
It
may
have
been
purchased
on
this
floor,
but
it
did
not
pass
in
this
house
next
thing
is,
you
know:
we're
sold
the
bill
of
goods
that
that
this
was
to
help
those
kids
who
were
stuck
in
those
poor
inner
city,
schools
that
were
so
awful
and
you
know
we're
we're
holding
opportunities
back
from
these
kids.
AS
Well,
we
know
that
was
a
lie
because
we
opened
it
up
this
year
for
anybody
and
everybody
that
wants
it.
You
know
and
then
from
the
get-go.
You
know
it
was
all
schools
in
that
Lea,
not
just
the
kids
who
are
in
the
failing
schools,
so
that
was
alive
from
the
very
beginning
and
then
we're
told
this
7
500
we're
going
to
help
that
poor
kid
in
that
failing
school,
get
him
a
get
himself
himself
for
herself,
a
private
school
education.
Well
in
Davidson
County,
the
average
private
school
cost
over
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
AS
So
we're
going
to
give
that
poor
kid
7
500,
with
no
transportation
to
get
back
and
forth
to
that
school,
we're
going
to
give
him
half
enough
money
to
go
to
school.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
So
again,
it's
not
for
those
kids,
it's
for
subsidizing,
wealthy
kids,
private
education.
Let's,
let's
just
say
what
it
is
you
know,
and
and
again
in
2019
it
didn't
pass
on
this
house
floor.
It
may
have
something
out
there
on
that.
Balcony
may
have
may
have
happened
and
and
conjured
up
enough
votes
on
that
board.
AS
A
AS
AS
You
know
I
I,
think
it's
a
felon
project
you
know
is
what
what
it
is.
We
know
how
it
got
here.
You
know
this
house
should
repeal
this
legislation
and
clean
up
our
act,
because
we
know
how
this
happened.
You
know
and
be
honest
with
the
people
you
know
standing
up
there,
you
stood
up
there
and
towed
this
house
that
it
was
for
kids
in
failing
schools.
You
know,
that's
not
the
case.
You
know
it's
not
enough
money
for
a
kid
to
go
to
a
private
school.
AS
You
know
that
kid,
that's
either
in
a
household
of
one
parent
or
a
household
of
low-income
or
both
parents
working
multiple
jobs
to
make
ends
meet.
They
don't
have
the
transportation
to
get
that
kid
across
town
to
the
private
school
and
not
so,
let's
don't
be
disingenuous
and
say
what
it
is.
It's
for
wealthy
kids
to
be
subsidized.
That's
all
this
is
about,
and-
and
it
must
also
be
honest
with
it's-
the
charter-
schools
that
have
been
taking
away
from
the
mid-level
private
schools.
AS
We
had
to
throw
them
some
cash,
that's
what
this
is
about
as
well.
Your
Charter
School
schemes
have
been
killing
these
mid-level.
A
lot
of
Christian
Schools
you've
been
putting
under
because
all
your
Charter
School
legislation,
but,
like
I,
said
again,
it
wasn't
passed
on
this
house.
It
was
purchased
on
that
balcony.
V
Yes,
this
was
brought
to
me
by
colleagues
from
Hamilton
County
and,
as
the
bill
is
moving
forward,
the
Knox
County
colleagues
came
and
said
we
can.
We
add
that,
and
so
this
comes
from
a
member
in
members
from
the
from
those
counties,
so
I'm
standing
here
as
a
person
who
believes
in
a
parental
school
choice
for
options
for
parents
and
children
where
there
is
no
other
option
and
I
disagree
with
with
the
former
represent
statements.
This
is
for
those
who
have
no
options.
V
Many
of
us,
many
of
us,
do
that's
why
I'm
for
Charters
public
private
homeschooling
anything
that
it
helps
the
parent.
The
parent
makes
the
choice,
there's
nothing
this
bill
that
prevents
the
parent
from
making
the
best
choice
for
their
child.
That's
what
this
is
entirely
about.
So
yes,
I'm
carrying
this
on
behalf
of
those
colleagues
who
asked
me
to
from
those
two
counties.
V
Yes,
I
wish
I
had
time
to
get
around
to
everybody
and
ask
them,
but,
as
you
know,
we've
been
very
busy
if
you
this
bill
has
been
out
there
for
a
while.
It
went
through
the
education
committees
and
and
also
if
you
had
an
issue
with
it,
I
would
ask
you
to
come
to
me.
I
can't
get
around
to
everybody
like
nobody
else.
Can.
AT
Thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
so
evidently
you
feel
it's
all
right
to
do
to
make
legislation
in
an
area
for
a
representative
without
talking
with
that
representative.
So
I
leave
that
at
that.
But
I
disagree
with
that
process
now.
Why
is
it
good
for
young
people
in
the
inner
city
in
the
urban
areas,
but
not
good
for
young
people
in
the
rural
communities
who
have
concerns
or
problems
just
like
we
do
in
the
inner
cities.
V
Well,
that's
fine!
That's
just
where
the
status
of
the
bill
is
right
now,
because
these
were
the
priority
schools
are
in
this
legislation.
You
know
three
or
more.
You
have
to
have
three
or
more
priority
schools
in
2015
in
2017
data,
and
so
that's
where
the
legislation
is
currently
have
to
have
a
priority
or
School
in
the
priority
area.
AT
Thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
so
what
you're
telling
us
is
that
it's
not
relevant
to
what
the
parents
think
in
those
communities.
It's
not
relevant.
What
the
community
leaders
think
and
a
representative
in
that
community
and
my
question
to
you
is
that
if
we
have
public
schools,
we
have
charter
schools,
and
now
you
want
to
open
it
up
to
voucher
schools.
AT
What
happens
to
those
young
people
who
stays
in
those
Public
Schools,
where
monies
are
being
siphoned
off
to
go
to
private
entities,
I
mean
where,
where
I
think
a
good
school
environment
has
a
mixture
of
young
people,
not
all
of
them.
Haven't
you
know
in
an
environment
that
is
not
conducive
to
learning.
How
does
that
help
those
students
who
are
in
those
schools
that
you
know
where
monies
are
being
siphoned
off
Jim
White.
V
Thank
you
actually,
I,
always
hate
the
conversation
go
down
to
around
money.
We
put
a
lot
of
money
in
public
education,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
the
student.
If
the
student
is
needing
an
alternative
form
of
Education,
as
I
mentioned,
whether
it
be
public
or
Charter
or
private
or
home
nobody's
hitting
it
at
100
percent.
So
to
give
the
parent
that
one
parent
that
may
want
it,
the
choice
is
what
this
is
all
about.
AJ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
I
I
can
say
that
once
again,
colleagues
in
Knoxville
that
were
not
spoken
to
about
this
legislation
are
the
the
two
districts
where
these
schools
lie
as
well
and
so
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room,
but
one
in
Chattanooga
that
you
didn't
speak
to
and
two
in
Knox
County,
I
I,
don't
imagine.
Three
people
is
too
difficult
to
reach
out
to,
but
I
think
that
it's
important
to
note
that
some
of
my
colleagues
from
Knox
County
might
have
brought
this
to
you.
AJ
However,
the
citizens
of
Knox
County,
the
majority
of
them,
do
not
want
vouchers,
and
that
is
a
fact
bipoling
now
and
by
all
the
people
that
come
to
us
about
it
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note.
We've
been
operating
vouchers
for
eight
months
and
there
are
multiple
states
that
have
vouchers
Esa,
whatever
been
doing
it
a
while.
AJ
Why?
Don't
we
find
out
how
it
performs
in
Tennessee,
before
we
expand
this
to
counties
that
do
not
want
it
to
in
its
draining
schools?
My
colleague
is
right.
It
is
draining
funds
from
our
traditional
public
schools
and
what
we
see
in
States,
like
Wisconsin
and
other
states
who
have
had
vouchers
for
a
while
60
percent
of
the
kids
receiving
vouchers
are
have
never
been
in
public
schools.
They
are
just
having
their
private
school
education
subsidized
because
they
did
the
same
thing.
They
kept
expanding,
kept
expanding,
kept
expanding
and
including
any
income
bracket.
AJ
Now
60
percent
are
just
subsidizing.
People
who
had
never
even
went
to
public
school
and
their
rural
schools
are
suffering
dramatically
in
funding,
and
so
the
idea
that
this
is
some
sort
of
a
solution.
It's
not
been
proven
anywhere
in
the
country
and
it's
not
been
proven
in
Tennessee
yet
so
why
are
we
rushing
to
change
something
that
is
not
working?
AJ
The
only
set
thing
that
a
couple
of
states
can
say
is
some
parents
like
it
better,
but
the
performance
is
not
better
in
any
state
when
you
compare
a
voucher
using
student
to
their
Public
School
peer
and
I,
think
that
is
critically
important
Point
here
before
we
go
expanding
that
we
look
at
that
and
have
some
data
on
how
it's
doing
here.
You
can
tell
me
that
Tennessee
is
going
to
do
something.
Different
I
haven't
seen
it
yet,
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
people
that
want
to
be
involved
in
this
process.
AJ
V
Thank
you.
No
I
I
look
at
a
lot
of
data
on
this
as
education
chair
members.
Let
me
ask
you
a
question
in
response
to
the
representatives.
Why
is
it
only
in
K-12
education
that
we
have
an
issue
with
tax
dollars
going
going
to
privates
once
you
graduate
from
12th
grade,
you
take
Federal
Pell
Grant
dollars
and
you
go
to
any
college.
You
want
to
public
and
or
private,
and
it
works
quite
well.
V
AJ
It's
because
K-12
education
is
required
for
every
single
child
in
that
age
group.
That's
why
college
and
post-secondary
is
not
required.
Now
there
are
choices
in
the
counties
you
have
chosen.
There
are
choices.
There
are
Magnet
School
career,
prep,
there's
all
sorts
of
choices
in
those
areas,
so
the
reality
is
you're
choosing
to
go
and.
V
You
for
making
my
point,
it
is
required.
That's
the
whole
point
and
if
you're
locked
into
a
failing
system
in
a
low
performing
priority
schools,
a
a
parent,
that's
making
75,
000
or
less
that
will
lack
educational
opportunity
for
the
children.
They
don't
have
it.
It
is
required,
and
so
there
is
no
option
for
them.
So
this
is
a
bill
to
help
parents
find
a
way
out
if
it's
not
working
for
them.
With
that
Mr
Speaker
I
renew
the
motion.
AU
Thank
you,
speaker
I,
just
want
to
thank
chairman
white
for
bringing
this
bill
and
for
agreeing
to
add
the
Knox
County
delegation,
the
people
in
my
district,
which
is
district
16
in
Knox
County,
very
much
support.
This
I've
received
emails
texts
and
phone
calls
asking
to
please
work
and
try
to
get
Knox
County
added
on
to
this
bill
and
I
also
ran
as
school
choice,
because
I
believe
that
parents
should
have
the
choice
in
how
they
educate
their
children.
AU
A
A
AH
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
just
a
couple
questions
to
the
bill
sponsor
all
of
the
in
the
esa
bill
that
we've
debated
years
ago
and
this
body
has
moved
on
which
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
bill
right
now.
It's
about
two
counties
wanting
to
expand
are
all
of
those
guard
rails
and
qualifications,
and
and
and
stops
in
there-
of
how
many
kids
can
take
advantage
of
this
program
are
those
still
all
in
place.
Jeremy.
AH
V
AH
V
V
AH
Now,
members
we
we
passed
this
educational
savings
account
Bill
three
years
ago,
the
courts
in
covid
has
held
this
program
up
to
where
we've
just
got
it
implemented.
Right
now
we
have.
We
have
two
counties
that
are
volunteering
to
help
expand
this,
so
we
can
collect
valuable
data
and
the
reason
why
it's
important
to
get
the
valuable
data
right
now
as
quick
as
possible,
is
because
we
have
a
funding
mechanism
for
the
first
three
years
of
the
programs
that
makes
the
schools
harmless
for
a
student
that
leaves
and
goes
somewhere
else.
AH
So,
in
my
opinion,
we're
killing
two
birds
here
with
one
stone:
we're
given
the
public
schools,
the
ability
to
have
smaller
classrooms
and
more
money
and
we're
giving
parents
the
opportunity
to
find
a
better
education
for
their
kids.
So
Mr
Speaker
I'll
be
supporting
this
bill
and
I
Thanks
for
the
bill
sponsor
chairman.
Why.
V
AV
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
chairman
white,
for
your
passion
for
Tennessee's
children
and
for
parents
and
their
ability
to
choose
what
education
is
best
for
their
children.
It
truly
is
admirable.
I
have
two
questions
for
you,
both
of
which
are
about
data.
As
representative
sapicki
has
just
pointed
out.
First
I
understand
from
your
presentation
that
there
are
a
total
of
5
000
seats
in
this
five-year
pilot
program.
AV
Are
you
able
to
tell
us
how
many
of
those
seats
currently
are
occupied
by
students
in
Shelby
and
Davidson
counties,
the
two
counties
that
are
currently
in
the
program
and
then?
Secondly,
in
your
view,
would
it
be
best
to
have
data
at
the
conclusion
of
the
pilot
program,
not
just
from
west
Tennessee
and
Middle
Tennessee,
but
also
from
East
Tennessee,
Hamilton,
County
and
Knox
County,
when
we
actually
take
a
look
at
the
success
of
the
program
after
the
five
years.
V
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes.
In
the
original
Bill
the
the
first
year,
the
cap
was
5
000
students
because
it
was
tied
up
in
court
for
two
years.
It
came
out
eight
months
ago,
so
it
was
a
slow
rollout.
Only
500
have
been
able
to
take
advantage
of
it.
So
far,
now
2
000
are
in
the
process
of
applying,
but
so
by
having
more
counties
in
there
that
we
could
reach.
You
know
the
more
data
that
comes
in
the
better.
You
can
make
your
decision,
and
so
that
is
correct.
A
F
A
A
F
A
AW
A
AQ
Speaker
members,
Senate
Bill
845
takes
two
utility
regulatory
boards
under
the
Comptroller's
office.
That's
the
utility
management
review
board
and
the
water
and
wastewater
Finance
board.
It
emerges
them
together
into
a
new
board
that
will
be
under
the
Comptroller's
office
that
will
be
called
the
Tennessee
Board
of
utility
regulation.
Mr
Speaker
I
renew
my
motion.
X
AQ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
yeah
I
would
I
would
agree
with
that.
It
merging
these
two
boards
together
that
essentially
have
the
same
purpose
into
one
board,
will
consolidate
and
sort
of
streamline
the
process
and
it'll
clear
it
up
for
all
of
those
Public
Utilities
like
water
authorities,
public
utility
districts
or
municipally
owned
utilities.
It
kind
of
makes
it
more
uniform.
X
AQ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
so
actually
it's
what
happened
last
year.
If
you
were
on
the
Commerce,
Committee
or
business
utilities,
we
just
sat
down
and
and
just
learned
everything
we
could
about
Utilities
in
Tennessee,
we
heard
from
the
from
the
investor
own
and
the
public,
which
falls
under
the
Comptroller's
office.
AQ
One
of
the
things
we
noticed
is
that
you
had
these
two
boards
essentially
doing
the
same
thing
under
the
Comptroller's
office,
with
a
few
just
little
variations,
and
so
after
consultation
with
the
Comptroller's
office
and
the
utility
folks,
we
we
asked
them
to
merge
those
two
together.
They
thought
it
was
a
great
idea
too.
But
yes,
everyone,
that's
been
affected
by
this,
has
has
spoken
and
had
an
opinion
and
we've
made
various
changes
along
the
way.
AQ
X
AQ
Boyd,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker
yeah,
so
they
would
have
reported
as
a
municipal.
They
would
have
been
under
the
water,
Wastewater
Finance
board,
and
so
they
have
been
consulted
in
this
and
and
almost
every
stakeholder
group
or
everyone
that's
affected
has
had
little
ass,
that
they
want
to
make
sure
that's
included
in
the
legislation
and
and
I'm
I'm
certain
they
were
involved.
A
N
All
right,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
is
that
we've
seen
over
the
course
of
this
session
where
different
boards
have
been
realigned,
especially
in
Davidson
County,
and
the
historical
commission
where
there's
been
the
appointees
has
been
three
for
the
speaker
three
for
the
lieutenant
governor
three
for
the
governor?
Why
aren't
there
appointee
since
we're
realigning
things
and
that's
been
the
explanation
we've
received?
Why
doesn't
this
follow
along
those
same
lines?
AQ
N
So
in
Davidson,
County
on
our
board,
specifically
the
Metro
Nashville
Airport
Authority
and
the
historical
commission
we'll
take
two
one:
local
and
one
Statewide,
the
appointees
have
been
taken
away
from
realigned.
Let's
say:
they've
been
realigned
instead
of
the
way
that
it
has
been
they've
been
realigned
to
where
the
appointees
have
been
three
for
the
governor
three
for
the
speaker,
three
for
the
lieutenant
governor
and
then
some
ad
hoc
ones.
Why
does
the?
Why
does
this
particular
Bill
not
align
the
appointees
the
same
way
it
does
that
we've
seen
going
in
the
past
chairman.
A
AQ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
okay,
I
understand
your
question
now.
So
there
are
already
there
were
nine
board
members
on
the
wwfb
and
the
nine
members
on
the
umrb,
and
so
they
tried
to
keep
it
as
much
as
they
could
that
it's
now
going
to
be
a
11-member
board,
so
they
kind
of
took
the
current
appointments
and
just
merged
them.
Together,
the
governor
gets
a
few
of
them.
N
Hey,
thank
you
I
appreciate.
That's
why
I
use
the
example
of
the
historical
commission.
It's
a
Statewide
commission
and
it
was
realigned
and
it
was.
It
was
pretty
much
all
the
government,
the
governor's
appointees
I
think
this
one.
It
previously
had
mine
this
one
still
has
seven
I
believe,
and
then
it
goes
on.
N
So
that
was
my
point
in
saying
that
it
seems
to
be
unequitable
how
we're
picking
and
choosing
and
cherry
picking
which
commissions
get
the
special
treatment
from
the
Speaker
of
the
House,
the
lieutenant
governor
and
the
governor,
but
then
on
this
one
is
specifically
doesn't
really
change
anything
about
their
appointees,
but
those
other
ones
drastically
change.
Who
is
appointed
and
that's
my
question.
It
doesn't
necessarily
need
an
answer.
I
just
wanted
to
make
my
my
point
clear.
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
thank.
A
X
AQ
AQ
X
Could
find
the
commission
exactly
I
was
reading
through
this
previously,
but
there
is
a
member
of
the
board
who's
assigned
or
a
commissioner
who
is
said.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
have
been
a
part
of
a
public
utility
may
not
have
experience
in
that,
but
they
are
represented.
They
still
have
representation,
even
though
they're
not
necessarily
associated
with
the
utility,
and
so
how
are
we
ensuring,
rather
that
another
voice,
like
an
environmentalist,
is
actually
included
in
the
new
construction
of
the
board.
AQ
AQ
We
tried
to
take
the
the
the
with
the
the
current
boards
that
were
made
up
of
and
merged
those
into
this
one,
and
there
were
a
few
changes,
I
mean,
but
for
the
most
part,
it's
it's
pretty
Equitable,
and
and
just
to
remind
you
that
the
Comptroller
is
not
an
this
Comptroller's
office
is
not
tdac.
Their
purpose
is
not.
AQ
Environmental,
theirs
is
financial,
and
so
that's
everything
that
every
person
on
this
board
is
is
here
to
ensure
that
these
utilities
have
have
the
rate
sent
properly
to
protect
the
the
community
and
make
sure
that
they're,
justifiable
and
reasonable
rates,
and
also
to
make
sure
that
the
the
rates
are
not
too
low
so
that
the
utility
gets
into
financial
distress.
So
that's
the
main
purpose
of
this.
This
board.
A
A
M
A
AQ
U
You
Mr
Speaker,
the
Dan
Daniel
boo
Institute,
established
in
2013
is
headquartered
in
Budapest
hungry
and
is
one
of
the
Premier
conservative
think
tanks
of
Europe.
It
builds
itself
as
a
center
right
and
is
committed
to
a
respectful
conversation
in
cultural,
religious
and
social
life.
One
particular
area
in
which
the
Institute
focuses
is
the
Christian
faith.
U
This
can
be
seen
by
the
research
group
that
puts
a
focus
on
the
importance
of
Christian
faith
and
democracy.
This
group
believes
the
study
of
Christian
principles,
values,
practices
and
institutions
can
can
contribute
to
the
rediscovery
of
Christian
Roots
and
provide
a
solid
basis
for
the
practice
for
the
preservation
of
Christian
political
Traditions.
It
also
created
A,
persecuted,
Christians
research
Group,
which
helps
Hungary
become
one
of
the
first
countries
in
the
world
to
address
the
issue
of
persecuted
Christians
at
a
government
level.
U
It's
fun
kiss
is
the
executive
director
and
is
met
with
the
Tennessee
Department
of
Economic
and
Community
Development,
and
the
Department
of
Agriculture
Mr
kiss
was
here
and
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
senate
floor
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
Hopefully
we
can
work
together
on
issues
that
affects
our
citizens.
It
has
been
interesting
to
read
about
the
Hungarian
way
of
life.
U
AX
AX
You're
bringing
a
resolution
for
an
organization
tied
to
an
authoritarian
who
you're
not
even
familiar
with
what
this
organization
is,
and
so
that
just
shows
us
that
there's
not
been
thought
put
into
this.
This
is
about
fascism.
This
is
an
organization
that
has
been
allied
with
Fascist
governments
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
what
this
government
wants
to
be.
We
see
what
we're
doing
here,
expelling
members
for
dissenting,
but
that's
what
was
happening
in
Hungary,
and
so
this
is
very
disturbing.
It's
very
troubling.
U
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
had
a
good
stem,
my
district
that
has
done
the
research
and
actually
went
to
Hungary
and
presented
the
executive
director
and
the
director
of
this
with
the
proclamation,
and
he
was
on
the
senate
floor
not
long
ago,
and
that's
that's
why
I'm
at
in?
In
studying
this,
it
was
actually
very
interesting
to
find
you
know
we
live
in
a
great
state,
okay,
but
but
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
we
deal
with
in
this
state
inspects,
especially
of
late,
is
not
solved
politically.
U
AX
A
A
A
AX
AX
A
Question
Jones
I'm
asking
you
right
now:
what's
your
point
of
order,
making
accusations
and
other
stuff
would
not
be
good.
So
I
would
ask
you
if
you
have
a
point
of
order,
you
need
to
stick
to
the
point
of
order.
This
is
not
where
you
can
do
personal
orders,
personal
statements,
political
statements.
This
is,
if
you
have
a
question
for
a
point
of
order.
AX
I'm
laying
out
the
reasons
for
my
point
of
order,
we've
had
multiple
out
of
order
comments
be
made
from
this
floor.
On
this
day,
no
one
else
will
shut
off
from
speaking.
We've
had
members
here
acting
out
of
order
obstructing
speakers,
I
couldn't
even
hear
the
majority
of
comments
made,
because
you
see
us
Jody's
standing
here
talking.
This
is
what
has
happened
all
day.
You
mean
representative
I
mean
Jody
Barrett,.
AX
AX
A
A
AM
AM
AM
AM
We
passed
HB
437
third
grade
literacy.
We
passed
322
physical
security
in
our
schools,
House
Bill
329
are
raising
expectations
for
teacher
salaries
and
House
Bill
843
the
appropriateness
of
materials.
We
must
also
hold
to
higher
expectations
for
our
parental
rights
and
the
interface
with
the
Lea
and
trying
to
accommodate
the
lack
of
involvement
by
some
parents.
We
have
taken
away
the
fundal
fundamental
rights
of
many
parents
with
that
Mr
Speaker
I.
A
AX
I
was
once
a
member
of
Education,
Administration
committee
and
I
heard
this
bill
and
and
I'm
even
more
troubled
by
the
exclamation
given
by
representative
Fritz
today
than
I
did
than
I
was
in
committee.
This
bill
is
about
preemptively,
trying
to
censor
education.
It's
putting
more
work
on
our
teachers
to
submit
their
lesson,
plans
their
surveys,
any
activities
to
parents
for
approval,
and
it's
under
the
guise
that
we
want
parent
involvement.
A
AX
A
AM
AY
AY
So
I
think
what
I'm
saying
is:
if
I
had
a
son
or
daughter,
God,
forbid,
I,
don't
think
I
have,
but
if
I
had
one
I'd
want
them
to
feel
comfortable
to
come
to
me
where
I
could
instruct
them
and
help
them
to
go
to
the
right
persons
to
get
the
counseling
that
they
needed
and
I
think
that
your
legislation
could
prevent
that
from
happening.
If
we're
not
careful,
how
do
you
respond
to
that?
Sir?
Represent.
A
AM
A
AY
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Sometimes
the
child,
as
you
know,
will
have
more
confidence
in
the
teacher
than
they
will
the
parents
in
some
cases,
because
you
know
as
parents
we
are
going
to
always
teach
our
kids
the
right
thing
and
put
the
hammer
down
and
say:
don't
do
this
and
don't
do
that
when
sometimes
they
will
go
to
that
teachers
and
express
themselves
about
things
that
they
don't
feel
comfortable
to
come
to
us.
So
to
me,
I
think
the
legislation
is
hindering
us
from
having
those
kind
of
relationships
with
our
children.
AY
Well,
I
think
I
know
what
you
mean
and
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
I
really
believe
that
that
is
going
to
maybe
cause
some
division
between
the
parent
and
the
student.
In
some
cases,
I
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
record.
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing,
but
I
don't
think
this
is
a
good
idea.
I
want
my
child
to
be
able
to
express
his
or
herself
to
whomever
they
feel
comfortable
to
do
that,
first
and
foremost,
and
then
moving
to
whatever
counseling
we
need
to
to
help
them.
AM
M
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
and
representative
Fritz
I've
enjoyed
getting
to
know
you
this
year.
I
I
really
disagree
with
this
piece
of
legislation,
and,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
questions
I
have
and
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
so
you're
requiring
a
parent
to
opt
in
to
sexual
orientation
instruction
I'm,
not
sure,
I
understand
what
sexual
orientation
instruction
is
and
if
you
could
answer
that
represent.
A
AM
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
the
the
bill
is
pretty
clear.
You
can
read
through
the
bill.
It
gives
a
very
specific
examples
of
what
is
required
for
that
learning.
It's
those
two
topic
areas.
However.
It
does
require
the
Same
opt-in
by
parents
for
other
clubs
and
organizations
within
the
school.
This
bill
is
written
upon
the
foundation
that
God
gave
the
children
to
the
parents,
not
the
state
of
Tennessee,
and
he
did
not
give
them
to
the
United
States.
AM
AM
AP
M
AM
You
Mr,
Speaker
and
representative
I've
also
enjoyed
getting
to
know
you
this
year.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
I
appreciate
your
comments,
but
I
think
you've
just
made
the
point
of
what
I'm
trying
to
do
here,
because
you
use
the
word,
allow
the
parents,
and
that
comes
from
a
statist
belief-
that
we,
the
state
of
Tennessee,
somehow
have
have
authority
over
those
parental
rights.
AM
Our
nation
was
not
founded
on
that
The
Godly
principles
of
which
we
have
built
this
nation
and
our
founding
fathers
do
not
support
that
view
of
allowing
parents
to
do
things
and
our
Supreme
Court
decisions
have
not
been
consistent
with
that
view,
I
will
offer
you
this.
In
1997,
the
Supreme
Court
declared
the
due
process.
Clause
of
the
14th
amendment
protects
the
fundamental
right
of
parents,
I,
say
again:
parents
to
direct
the
care,
upbringing
and
education
of
their
children,
so
I
would
offer
you
representative.
AM
This
is
simply
in
compliance
with
what
has
been
our
law,
our
Supreme
Court
decisions
and
the
basis
of
which
this
nation
was
founded.
Secondarily,
I
would
offer
in
2000
the
court
declared
that
and
I
quote
the
Liberty
interests
of
parents
in
the
care,
custody
and
control
of
their
children
is
perhaps
the
oldest
of
the
fundamental
liberty
interest
recognized
by
the
court.
So
again,
I
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
it
is
get
it
good
to
getting
to
know
you.
A
AM
AJ
Okay,
so
by
requiring
parents
who
have
no
problem
with
the
instruction
and
the
curriculum
that
this
body
has
approved,
you
are
stepping
on
those
parents
right
by
requiring
them
to
opt
in
I.
Don't
understand
why
those
few
parents
who
disagree
with
our
curriculum
and
our
instruction
I'm,
not
sure
what
you
think
is
being
taught
but
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
maybe,
if
some
folks
went
and
spent
some
time
in
classrooms,
they
would
see
what
is
actually
being
taught
and
so
I
think
you're.
AJ
AJ
AM
You
Mr
speaker,
thank
you,
ma'am
for
the
question
and
I
would
question
your
use
of
the
word.
Always
it
has
been
a
relevantly
relatively
recent
thing
that
we
decided
that
we
were
going
to
instruct
in
any
topic
that
the
parent
did
not
give
permission
to.
Many
of
us
are
of
the
same
age
group
that
the
parents
had
to
approve
of
whatever
we
learned
in
our
schools
outside
the
base
curriculum
anything
that
we
participated
in
in
clubs
and
groups.
AM
So
I
would
question
you
use
your
use
of
the
word
always
or
your
definition
of
always
and
I
do
not
think
at
all
we're
stepping
on
the
rights
of
parents.
Again.
This
bill
simply
requires
that
for
most
things
there
is
an
opt-in
by
the
parent
I
think
that
is
consistent
with
what
we
have
done
in
raised
expectations
in
this
good
body
for
how
we
educate
and
make
Tennessee
the
very
best
schools
in
this
entire
nation.
That
is
my
objective.
AM
I
assure
you
that
everyone
around
these
United
States
would
look
to
the
schools
in
this
great
state
of
Tennessee,
as
the
very
best
I
think.
That's
very
much
achievable
and
I
think
that
setting
these
high
expectations
that
we
have
said
over
this
session
and
sessions
prior
to
are
the
right
ways
to
do
that.
AJ
Do
you
have
any
data
to
suggest
that
that
this
bill
is
going
to
improve?
Is
there
any
research
on
that,
because
you
know
I
am
with
you
100
on
making
Tennessee
the
best
schools
in
the
country
and
the
way
you
do,
that
is
by
funding
great
programs
and
fully
funding
public
education
and
not
privatizing
education
and
and
the
idea
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
nightmare
for
educators.
AJ
As
far
as
the
opt-in,
it
would
be
so
much
easier
to
track
parents
who
opt
out
than
requiring
every
parent
to
opt
in
if
you've
been
in
a
classroom
and
you've
seen
a
lot
of
students
that
struggle
to
get
things
back
to
class
and
and
parents
who
are
working
two
and
three
jobs
that
struggle
to
get
things
back
so
so
the
reality
is
the
opt-out
is.
Is
it's
a
much
better
solution.
AM
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
for
your
input.
I
appreciate
that
I
I
would
I
would
draw
on
one
word
that
used
their
representative.
You
referred
to
it
being
easier
laugh,
and
my
experience
has
taught
me
that
the
path
of
ease
is
not
the
past
path
to
Excellence,
and
so
sometimes
it
requires
us
to
take
that
steeper
path.
Sometimes
it
requires
up
to
us
to
stand
up
and
do
the
right
things.
AM
Sometimes
it
requires
us
to
take
on
those
challenges
for
Norms
that
we
have
allowed
to
filter
themselves
into
our
society
that
weaken
our
society.
Sometimes
it
requires
us
to
stand
up
and
do
the
right
thing,
and
sometimes
that
requirement
is
making
sure
that
our
parents
are
engaged
in
this
process
of
learning
and
that
they
opt
in
again
I.
Don't
think
the
easier
path
is
the
right
path.
I
think
most
of
my
good
teachers
in
my
district
do
not
choose
the
easy
path.
AM
AZ
A
A
F
A
A
Y
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
to
clear
some
of
this
up
and
some
of
the
confusion.
Legal
did
say
that
the
way
the
Bill's
written
it's
somewhat
convoluted,
but
they
assured
me
that
when
meds
are
funded
by
the
federal
or
state
funds,
then
the
county
has
no
duty
to
pay
for
it.
In
other
words,
that
money
is
coming
in
so
now
they
can
relax.
It
does
not
remove
their
responsibility
of
providing
this
medication
if
there
is
no
money
and
of
course
that's
the
intent
of
the
bill
anyway,.
A
X
Thank
you
for
talking
to
legal
and
chatting
about
that
with
me,
because
I
was
definitely
a
concern
that
I
had.
What
I
also
want
to
know
is
looking
at
the
fiscal
note
for
this
bill.
It
talks
about
the
Ryan
White
fund.
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
that
fund
is
and
how
the
dollars
are
currently
allocated.
Y
I'm
not
positive
about
the
complete
allocation,
but
Ryan
funded
white
money.
It
comes
from
the
federal
government.
There
has
been
some
changes
in
that,
but
the
executive
branch
of
our
government
I,
don't
know
all
the
details
about
that.
I
do
know
that
there
is
a
plan
to
substitute
State
money
in
for
some
of
that,
and
that's
why
the
wording
was
changed
and
some
of
it
is
allocated
for
prevention.
Some
of
it's
allocated
for
treatment.
Some
of
it's
allocated
for
education,
but
that's
a
whole
purpose,
was
to
open
up
an
Avenue.
X
Yeah-
and
this
is
the
challenge
and
well
I-
believe
one
question
was
answered-
that
the
challenge
that
I
have
is
the
Ryan
White
fund
and
all
that
it
does,
which
I
believe
is
really
important
work
and
still
only
about
26
million
dollars.
So
it's
not
extraordinarily
substantial
for
the
work
that
our
state
needs
to
do,
particularly
when
we
turn
away
nine
million
dollars
from
the
federal
government
to
deal
with
HIV
prevention
and
education
and
the
reason
this
is
an
important
issue
for
me.
X
Drawing
down
on
the
money
from
the
general
population
through
the
Ryan
White
fund,
instead
of
us
paying
or
those
counties
paying
the
cost
of
care
for
the
people.
They're
incarcerating
is
there.
How
are
we
preventing
that
from
happening?
And
not
using
a
fund,
that's
supposed
to
deal
with
the
HIV
epidemic
in
the
state
of
Tennessee
to
going
directly
to
our
to
prisons.
Chairman.
A
Y
A
X
I
didn't
want
you
to
think
that
there's
for
some
reason,
a
value,
a
life
judgment
that
we're
making
we're
talking
about
where
the
resources
come
from
and
right
now
the
counties
are
paying
for
the
resources
for
people
who
are
incarcerated
and
the
Ryan
White
fund
is
open
more
to
the
general
public.
I
believe
the
potential
fix
right
is
more
resources
going
to
counties
to
help
fund
the
folks
who
are
incarcerating
our
citizens,
who
are
incarcerating
and
getting
their
support.
X
Y
Thank
you
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
just
can't
solve
it:
I'm
just
trying
to
find
an
Avenue
that
jails
can
find
some
Financial
relief
and
I.
Don't
know
that
they
would
get
all
that
they
need
out
of
this
anyway,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
find
a
way
to
help
them
without
a
renewable
motion.
Chairman
Clements.
AB
My
concern
is
that
under
current
law,
those
County
legislative
bodies
have
the
responsibility
to
provide
all
that
Medical
Care
in
those
jails,
and
here
we're
saying
they
don't
have
to
do
it
for
medication,
for
HIV,
positive
patients
understand
the
desire
to
shift
that
burden
over
to
the
federal
government
or
the
state
government.
So
my
question
then,
is,
since
you
have
amended
this
legislation
and
shifted
it
to
the
state
or
federal
government.
AB
AB
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
so
my
concern
there
is
I
know
that
the
governor
has
said
he's
going
to
put
x
amount
of
dollars
to
replace
that
Federal
funding,
but
I
believe
the
Ryan
White
funding
was
well
in
excess
of
that
8.3
give
or
take
million
dollars,
and
that
Ryan
White
funding
is
what
was
used
to
fund
this
medication
in
the
jails.
So
are
you
a
hundred
percent
sure
that
that
funding
is
available
in
this
year's
budget
to
fill
in
this
hole
to
the
to
the
jails?
AB
Because
if
it's
not
now
we're
excluding
it
from
the
local
government's
responsibility,
putting
it
in
the
state's
responsibility
we're
denying
those
federal
funds,
but
the
state
might
not
have
that
money
to
even
do
it
so
now,
the
unintended
consequence
of
your
legislation
may
be
that
that
HIV
medication
is
not
going
to
be
available
at
all.
That's
that's
my
sole
concern,
and
so
I
would
like
Assurance
that
that
money
is
going
to
be
in
this
budget.
Chairman.
Y
Y
In
my
County
right
now,
I
have
two
inmates
that
are
HIV:
it
costs
the
county,
Sullivan
County,
Sheriff's
Department,
seven
thousand
dollars
a
month.
For
that,
let's
say
they
apply
and
can
only
get
a
two
thousand
dollar
relief
on
that
they're
still
responsible
for
the
other
five
thousand
dollars
to
make
sure
that
the
medication
is
served.
They
still
have
that
statute
responsibility
to
do
that.
So,
however,
you
shift
the
money
around.
If
there's
no
money
for
them
to
get
there's
no
money
for
them
to
get.
This
is
the
only
door.
AC
Y
A
F
Mr
Speaker
that
completes
Monday's
regular
calendar,
but
if
I
made
Mr
Speaker
remind
the
members,
two
of
those
bills
were
rolled
to
the
heel
of
the
regular
calendar,
one
that
was
set
for
today.
So
if
you
printed
any
material,
please
save
that
material
for
those
bills
when
they
come
up
at
the
end
of
a
regular
calendar.
One
for
today.
BA
BA
For
those
of
you
all
that
know,
Mr
Bailey
that
the
he
was
hit
several
years
ago
by
a
motorist
while
stranded
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
lost
one
of
his
legs
and
was
unable
to
attend
football
scholarship,
and
so
we're
basically
calling
this
move
over
Bill
and
naming
it
after
him.
With
that,
I
move
to
concur
with
Senate
amendment
number,
one
representing.
A
Glass
removes
and
current
Senate
Member
One,
probably
seconded
any
discussion
on
the
amendment,
so
you
know
any
objection
to
the
question.
Seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
Senate
Member
One
vote
out
when
the
bell
rings.
Those
opposed
vote,
no,
as
they
remember,
voted
same
memories,
change
their
vote.
F
A
AP
AP
A
A
F
V
V
Just
for
clarity,
if
you
remember
there
were
three
three
parts
in
there
that
the
that
the
schools
had
have
an
incident
or
excuse
me
an
armed
Intruder
drill,
an
incident
command
drill
and
a
bus
safety.
It
said
that
the
students
need
to
be
present
in
the
armed
Intruder
and
not
necessarily
present
in
the
incident
commanding
the
bus
safety
and
we're
letting
the
private
schools
determine
whether
or
not
they
can
be
present.
Students
present
or
not,
and
with
that
Mr
Speaker
I
concur
with
Senate
amendments
number
two,
three
and
four
chairman.
A
X
Thank
you
sponsor
and
for
the
Amendments,
also
from
the
Senate
version,
but
again
I
think
these
are
not
addressing
the
issues
that
a
lot
of
parents
and
people
in
our
community
are
here
about
today,
as
it
relates
to
making
our
community
safer
and
making
our
schools
safer.
Yesterday
I
had
the
opportunity,
along
with
other
colleagues,
to
meet
parents
at
covenant
and
one
of
the
things
they
said
that
this
legislation
and
these
amendments
don't
address,
is
what
happens
when
their
children
are
on
playgrounds.
A
F
A
A
A
AZ
Q
Yes
ma'am,
so
the
amendment
that
the
Senate
put
on
would
allow
for
law
enforcement
officers
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
experience
to
be
able
to
be
hired
as
probation
officers
without
fitting
other
criteria
because
of
their
experience.
There
was
a
broader
provision
in
there
that
would
allow
virtually
anyone
that
had
Armed
Forces
experience
to
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
and
I'm,
assuming
the
other
body
did
not
feel
like
all
of
those
experiences
matched
up
as
well
with
what
just
law
enforcement
experiences
are
for
purposes
of
becoming
a
probation
officer.
Q
A
F
A
Chairman
Vaughn
moves
to
refuse
to
receive
from
her
action,
not
concerning
cinnamon
number
one
and
two,
and
that
a
commit
a
conference
committee
be
appointed
to
court.
Confer
with
the
light
committee
from
the
Senate
to
resolve
the
differences
between
the
two
bodies
properly
seconded
with
objection
motion
carries
appoint
the
following
members:
Representatives
Vaughn,
vital
Todd
and
Shaw
next
message:
Mr
clerk.