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A
Good
afternoon,
our
first
item
of
business
today
is
a
statement
by
Michael
Russell
on
the
impact
of
the
proposed
new
EU
exit
deal
in
Scotland.
The
cabinet
secretary
will
take
questions
following
a
statement,
sir,
to
encourage
members
who
wish
to
ask
a
question
to
press
their
request
to
speak
buttons
and
I
call
on
the
cabinet
secretary,
Michael
Russell.
A
B
Statement
will
consider
the
impact
on
Scotland
of
the
new
EU
withdrawal
agreement
and
political
declaration
negotiated
by
Boris
Johnson
and
enshrined
in
the
withdrawal
agreement
bill,
whose
passage
at
Westminster
was
dramatically
opposed
by
the
Prime
Minister.
Just
over
a
week
ago,
the
Prime
Minister
in
truth,
trumpian
fashion,
calls
this
package
of
measures
a
great
deal.
It
is
nothing
of
the
sort.
No
brexit
can
be
a
good
brexit,
but
this
is
a
particularly
rotten
exit.
B
It
would
take
Scotland
out
of
the
EU
out
of
the
single
market
and
out
of
the
customs
union,
to
the
great
detriment
of
the
people
of
Scotland
and
absolutely
against
the
will
of
the
majority
but
presiding
officer.
This
is
a
deal
which
the
conservative
party
here
and
in
Westminster
wants
to
ram
through
the
UK
Parliament
and
which
it
will
now
apparent.
They
fight
the
forthcoming
general
election.
The
last
EU
deal
considered
by
this
Parliament
was
rejected
by
92
votes
to
29.
B
We
concluded
that
it
would
be,
and
I
quote,
from
the
motion
passed
by
us
damaging
for
Scotland
and
the
nations
and
regions
of
the
UK
as
a
whole.
Nonetheless,
the
conservative
members
of
this
Parliament
voted
in
favour
of
that
deal,
and
it
did
so
because
in
their
own
words,
they
were
satisfied
that
it
preserved
their
precious
union.
B
He
wrote
this
in
the
Financial
Times
in
October
last
year
from
its
cottage
conservative
in
unionist
perspective.
What
goes
for
Northern
Ireland
must
go
for
Scotland.
Also
in
particular,
there
can
be
no
separate
brexit
deal
for
each
of
the
nations
that
comprise
the
United
Kingdom
and
he
went
on
to
say
no
unionist
could
ever
endorse
ever
endorse.
Any
sort
of
differentiated
deal
what
a
difference
a
year
and
a
new
Prime
Minister
makes
what
a
difference.
B
Presiding
officer
I
understand
the
Brixton
weariness
with
the
people
of
Scotland
I,
feel
it
too.
They
didn't
want
a
referendum
on
the
EU.
In
the
first
place,
they
voted
against
leaving
by
a
large
majority,
but
that
preference
has
been
treated
with
contempt
by
the
UK
government
in
Parliament
and
three
years
on
that
contempt
continues.
But-
and
this
will
be
bad
news-
there
is
no
way
that
this
deal
gets
his
awful,
drawn-out
debilitating
process
of
breaks
it
over
and
done
with.
B
What
an
appalling
prospect,
what
a
a
veritable,
continuous
Halloween
of
sneering,
anti-democratic
horror
on
our
screens
for
another
year
or
two
or
three
for
presiding
officer.
The
withdrawal
agreement
bill
envisages
a
future
relationship
with
the
EU
which
will
be
negotiated
and
ratified
inside
barely
12
months.
That
beggars
belief,
even
if
the
full
option
of
a
two-year
extension
to
the
transition
period
were
taken
up.
Such
a
three-year
period
would
be
an
exceptionally
fast
negotiation.
B
By
comparison,
the
EU
Canada
agreement
took
to
negotiate
an
EU
Japan
six
years,
a
much
more
likely
scenario
as
a
UK
crashing
out
out
of
the
transition
period
at
the
end
of
2020,
with
No
Deal
agreed
in
order
to
satisfy
the
brexit
extremists
in
the
Tory
party.
That
would
mean
years
of
economic
stagnation,
followed
inevitably
at
some
point
by
the
resumption
of
negotiations
with
the
EU.
B
This
afternoon,
the
Scottish
government
is
publishing
an
assessment
of
the
impact
of
the
latest
withdrawal
agreement
and
political
declaration.
That
assessment
concludes
that
what
is
being
proposed
is
an
even
more
damaging
deal
than
the
May
deal
this
parliament
rejected
last
year.
Let
me
deal
with
some
elements
of
it.
First,
as
I've
said,
it
takes
Scotland
out
of
the
single
market,
which
is
the
largest
and
most
lucrative
market
in
the
world.
Membership
presently
provides
Scotland
businesses
with
unrestricted
access
to
over
510
million
people.
B
Last
year,
around
six
thousand
nine
hundred
companies
operated
in
Scotland
exported
goods
to
the
EU,
and
the
eleven
thousand
companies
here
in
Scotland
were
reliant
on
imports
from
elsewhere.
In
the
EU
we
used
four
freedoms,
the
free
movement
of
goods,
services,
capital
and
people
have
for
decades
brought
huge
advantages
to
Scotland
in
the
UK,
and
the
economic
consequences
of
losing
those
advantages
will
be
severe.
B
In
fact,
the
impact
of
a
trade
agreement
of
the
type
of
the
UK
government
intends
could
lower
Scottish
GDP
by
six
point,
one
percent
by
2030
compared
to
EU
membership
that
is
equivalent
to
a
cost
of
1600
pounds
for
each
and
every
person
in
Scotland,
and
just
today
we
had
further
confirmation
of
the
extraordinary
cost
of
brexit.
A
report
from
the
highly
respected
national
institute
of
economic
and
social
research
has
found
that
this
Tori
deal
will
cost
the
UK
seventy
billion
pounds
in
the
next
ten
years.
B
Moreover,
to
make
things
even
worse,
Scotland
is
now
to
be
placed
at
a
competitive
disadvantage
to
Northern
Ireland
because
of
the
special
deal
the
Tories
said.
It
must
never
be
struck.
The
Scottish
government
fully
and
unconditionally
supports
the
Good
Friday
Agreement.
We
recognise
the
importance
of
maintaining
an
invisible
border
on
the
island
of
Ireland.
B
We
do
not
want
to
prevent
Northern
Ireland
benefiting
from
this
special
deal,
but
we
could
never
accept
allowing
Scottish
businesses
to
lose
market
share
in
a
single
market
compared
with
their
direct
competitors
in
Northern
Ireland
and
in
fact,
economic
growth
in
Scotland
is
already
being
damaged.
Last
week,
the
Fraser
of
Allender
Institute's,
most
recent
economic
commentary,
estimated
that
the
Scottish
economy
is
already
around
two
percent.
B
Smaller
that's
three
billion
pounds
smaller
than
it
would
have
been
without
the
vote
to
leave
the
EU,
and
this
deal
is
also
a
threat
to
many
of
our
vital
rights
and
protections.
The
purpose
of
level
playing
field
provisions
in
three
trade
agreements
is
to
protect
businesses
in
one
country
from
deregulation
in
another
which
would
distort
the
market.
It's
inevitable
that
the
eu-27
will
require
from
the
UK
a
more
robust
level
playing
field
commitment
than
those
that
which
were
acceptable
for
agreements
with
the
likes
of
Canada
and
Japan.
B
This
is
in
the
greatest
part,
because
the
UK's
economic
scale
and
geographic
proximity
make
it
far
more
of
a
risk
to
the
EU
marketplace
as
a
competitor.
The
media
recognized
that
and
agreed
to
the
inclusion
of
level
playing
field
protections
within
the
legally
binding
withdrawal
agreement
as
part
of
the
backstop
Arrangements,
which
allowed
for
a
closer
relationship,
but
the
Johnston
government
has
removed
them
from
the
withdrawal
agreement
and
left
only
weaker
references
in
the
non-binding
protocol,
but
it
says
it
still
respects
them.
That
change
can
only
mean
a
more
distant
relationship
is
envisaged.
B
Could
anyone
be
taken
in
by
such
a
sleight
of
hand,
particularly
from
those
who
have
spent
their
entire
political
careers
reeling
against
these
protections
providing
officer
the
leopard
doesn't
change
its
spots?
The
EU
played
a
hugely
important
role
over
decades
in
driving
up
standards
for
our
environmental
protection
and
social
and
environmental
rights,
but
there
is
no
doubt
that
in
a
few
short
years
all
that
work
will
have
been
for
nothing
as
far
as
ordinary
people
in
this
country
are
concerned.
B
B
Our
devolved
competences
will
be
sidelined
in
that
process
and,
as
a
result,
our
citizens
will
have
their
basic
rights
and
protections
eroded
year-on-year.
That
is
what
the
Conservatives
in
this
chamber
are
supporting,
but
there
are
more
reasons
to
reject
absolutely
this
so-called
great
deal
on
the
issue
of
population
and
migration.
B
The
deal
will
undermine
the
rights
and
well-being
of
those
he
used,
citizens
who
have
chosen
to
make
Scotland
or
the
UK
their
home,
and
it
will
make
it
much
more
difficult
to
attract
people
from
across
the
EU
to
visit,
study,
work
and
live
here
in
the
future.
Let's
be
clear,
the
UK
government
should
not
be
making
EU
citizens
apply
to
maintain
rights
they
already
have,
but
whilst
they
are
doing
so,
it
would
be
wisest
for
EU
citizens
to
apply
for
and
gain
settled
status.
B
However,
the
UK
government
should,
in
return,
implement
in
UK
law
the
commitments
they
have
made
to
protect
UT
citizens
rights
in
the
UK
as
set
out
in
the
withdrawal
agreement,
and
to
do
so
without
reference
to
the
rest
of
the
deal.
That
would
be
the
fair
and
humane
thing
to
do,
and
it
would
say
loudly
and
clearly,
as
our
First
Minister
did
again.
Last
week,
we
want
you,
you
citizens,
to
continue
to
be
valued
members
of
our
communities.
B
There
is
a
practical
reason
for
doing
so
as
well,
because
not
doing
so
will
discourage
much-needed
migration
and
drive
people
who
are
here
away
in
a
scenario
of
50%,
less
EU
migration.
Our
working
age
population
will
decline
by
1.9
percent
over
the
next
25
years,
hitting
the
economy,
the
NHS
and
Social
Care
very
hard,
particularly
in
rural
areas.
Let
me
know
presiding
officer,
to
make
a
final
point
about
democracy
see
and
the
Constitution.
This
deal
will
give
Northern
Ireland
the
right
to
consent
to
any
new
arrangements,
but
deny
such
a
right
to
Scotland.
B
That
is
democratically
wrong.
Moreover,
Scotland
not
only
voted
by
a
large
majority
in
2016
to
remain
in
the
European
Union,
but
we
did
so
by
a
larger
majority
than
in
Northern
Ireland.
That
choice
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
ignored
and
dismissed
by
the
UK
government
in
July
2016.
The
former
prime
minister
promised
she
would
not
trigger
article
50
until
she
thought
there
was
an
agreed
UK
approach,
an
objective
for
negotiations.
B
She
helped
to
establish
a
new
joint
mysterio
Committee
on
EU
negotiations,
with
terms
of
reference
to
seek
to
agree
that
UK
approach
for
negotiations,
but
in
March
2017
she
sent
in
the
letter
to
trickle
article
50
without
any
agreement
by
that
committee.
Indeed,
she
sent
it
without
the
committee
ever
seeing
the
letter
course
in
January
of
that
year.
She
had
also
dismissed
our
proposed
compromise
position,
as
set
out
in
the
first
Scotland's
place
in
Europe
document
before
any
discussion
could
even
be
held
in
the
JMC.
B
That
has
been
the
pattern
for
the
last
three
years.
Not
once
says
the
UK
governments
ought
to
agree
with
the
default
administration's
the
content
of
the
withdrawal
agreement
or
political
declaration.
In
fact,
presiding
officer.
Our
views
have
not
been
sought
on
a
single
paragraph
of
the
over
500
pages
of
text
agreed
with
the
EU,
and
this
Prime
Minister
has
been
even
worse
than
the
last.
He
doesn't
even
know
or
care
how
devolution
works.
In
fact,
he
doesn't
even
know
what
his
own
government
is
doing
when
he
was
asked
last
week
in
the
House
of
Commons.
B
B
It
had
to
do
so
and
if
it
is
refused,
then
he
will
defy
democracy
if
he
uses
a
power
only
used
once
before
in
devolution
and
over
rules,
and
given
the
present
opposition,
he
will
have
to
do
the
same
in,
and
the
majority
of
MPs
in
Wales
in
Scotland
and
even
in
Northern
Ireland
opposed
his
deal.
He
has
no
Democratic
mandate
to
proceed
here
and
the
fact
that
that
fact
alone
should,
but
her
last
would
stay
the
hand
of
the
Tories
in
this
chamber
and
make
them
think
again.
B
The
paper
we
have
published
today
says
that
the
scale
of
the
damage
the
Tories
here
and
in
Westminster
want
to
inflict
on
Scotland.
It
demonstrates
beyond
death.
The
Tories
here
and
at
Westminster
have
nothing
but
contempt
for
the
Scottish,
Parliament
government
and
people.
The
Tories
here
and
at
Westminster
are
hell-bent
on
imposing
on
Scotland
a
so-called
deal.
They
will
leave
Scotland
poorer
distant
from
our
friends
in
Europe,
vulnerable
to
trade,
bullying
from
Donald
Trump,
with
workers,
rights
and
protections
under
threat
and
our
environment
trashed.
We
should
never
accept
that
and
we
will
never
accept
that.
B
B
C
Aware
of
returning
officer
you
chair
at
the
parliamentary
Bureau
parliamentary
Bureau,
sets
the
program
for
meetings
in
this
chamber
and
decides
on
the
allocation
of
business.
Ministerial
Simmons
are
here
to
inform
Parliament
as
the
government
policy
and
to
make
announcements
to
the
chambers
of
parliamentarians
are
aware
of
what
is
coming
there
and
should
not
be
used
as
what
we've
just
heard.
A
15
minute
party
political
broadcast
on
behalf
of
the
Scottish
National
Party
and
the
most
hysterical
and
ridiculous
of
terms
presiding
over.
A
A
Can
I
thank
mr.
Fraser
for
the
point
of
order?
Mr.
Fraser
is
right.
The
Bureau
did
agree
and
set
aside
45
minutes
for
the
statement,
including
50
minutes
for
the
minister.
All
parties,
including
the
Conservative,
Party
labour,
liberals
and
Greens,
will
have
the
chance
to
ask
questions,
including
an
extended
period.
Further
opening
speaker.
However,
I,
would
take
this
opportunity,
given
that
general
election
is
imminent
to
remind
members
not
to
bring
election
politics
too
much
into
this.
It's
it's
going
to
happen.
A
I
recognize
I
recognize
it's
going
to
happen,
but
I
would
ask
members
please
to
keep
the
election
campaigning.
I
would
say
the
chamber
and
keep
the
chamber
for
government
business
and
the
questioning
of
that
government
business.
Mr.
Tomkins
question
from
start
with
questions.
Mr.
Tompkins
crushed.
Thank.
D
D
Yes,
he
said
that
the
Prime
Minister
had
no
intention
of
negotiating
a
brexit
deal
and
was
intending
to
take
the
UK
out
of
the
EU
without
a
deal.
He
was
wrong,
but
today
there
was
no
apology
from
the
SMP,
his
boss,
Nicola
Sturgeon
who's
just
left
to
go
campaigning
presumably
said
they
were
said
that
there
are
no
meaningful
negotiations
going
on.
D
She
was
wrong,
but
today
the
Minister
offers
no
apology
for
the
misleading
and
mistaken
statements
of
his
boss,
SNP
leader
in
the
House
of
Commons
Ian
Blackford,
about
to
lose
his
seat
said
said
it
is
a
complete
sham
to
say
that
negotiations
are
taking
place.
He
was
wrong,
but
today
the
Minister
glosses
over
all
of
this
to
treat
us
not
to
a
ministerial
statement
worthy
of
the
name
but
to
a
party
political
broadcast
on
behalf
of
the
Scottish
National
Party.
The
truth
is
this
presiding
officer,
Mike
Russell
called
for
a
transition
period.
D
Boris
Johnson's
New
Deal
provides
for
one
Mike
Russell
called
for
no
heart
border
on
the
island
of
Ireland
Boris
Johnson's
New
Deal
ensures
that
we
won't
have
one
Nicola
Sturgeon
called
for
a
guarantee
on
EU
citizens
rights,
but
Boris
Johnson's,
New
Deal
provides
it.
Is
it
not
the
case,
presiding
officer
that
the
SNP
rail
against
this
deal,
because
they
want
the
most
chaotic
brexit
possible?
D
Is
it
not
the
case
indeed
that
they
want
a
No
Deal
brexit,
because
the
only
thing
they
care
about
is
independence
and
they
think
do
they
not
that
the
shortest
route
to
independence
is
via
a
No
Deal
grexit?
Isn't
that
the
real
reason,
presiding
officer,
why
mr.
Russell
has
come
to
Parliament
today,
armed
not
with
apologies
but
with
yet
another
stockpile
of
manufactured
grievance
Michael.
B
Russell,
thank
you
busy
officer
can
I
can
I
thank
mr.
Tom
mr.
Tompkins
for
his
very
non-political
question.
I
called
from
any
things
which
I
want
to
see.
Scotland
have
and
I
called
have
many
times
for
Scotland
to
be
in
a
single
market
in
the
customs
union.
That
is
absolutely
essential.
Indeed,
that
was
the
basis
of
the
paper
that
we
published
at
the
end
of
2016
that
has
been
treated
with
contempt
by
the
Conservatives,
both
north
and
south,
of
the
border.
B
B
It
has
not
only
been
pursued
by
the
current
prime
minister,
but
the
opportunity
for
a
new
deal
still
can
is
still
on
the
table
and
indeed
given
the
terms
of
the
withdrawal
agreement,
and
people
may
not
realize
this-
that
the
decision
about
what
happens
next
would
be
taken
not
this
time
next
year,
but
in
July
next
year.
According
to
the
withdrawal
agreement,
so
we
will
have
theirs
Beks,
it
will
not
get
done,
no
matter
what
happens
within
five
months
of
leaving
the
EU.
B
E
E
Scotland
of
that
there
can
be
no
doubt
the
effort
when
it
comes
to
break
sir
I
hope
that
we
can
unite
in
this
chamber,
apart
from
the
Tory
party,
to
get
that
message
out
the
earth
and
the
campaign
in
the
common
weeks
that
break
sir
is
bad
for
Scotland,
but
the
forthcoming
campaign,
as
by
more
than
just
break
sir.
It's
about
the
kind
of
economy,
the
kind
of
society,
the
kind
of
future
that
we
warn
for
our
country.
Does
he
agreed
his
own
party's
growth.
E
Commercial
proposals
are
as
bad
for
Scotland
and
will
give
us
years
indeed
years
and
the
decades
of
austerity
and
the
only
party
that
will
stop
austerity
and
transform
our
economy
for
the
many
as
the
labour
party.
So
the
only
choice
on
the
12th
December
as
a
Labour
government
or
a
Tory
government,
a
heartbreaks
or
a
people's
choice
of
people's
vote
does
he
agree.
B
Mr.
ally,
but
strangely
I
do
not
agree
with
that
point
and
I.
Don't
agree
for
a
very
clear
set
of
reasons.
I
do
agree
that,
if
certainly
we
should
unite
against
brexit
people
of
Scotland
voted
against
brexit
breaks.
It
should
not
take
place.
We
should
try
and
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
take
place,
but
we
should
also
consider
two
other
things.
What
circumstances
could
it
happen
again?
B
Could
this
constitutional
chaos
happen
again
the
circumstances
in
which
Scotland
votes
one
way
and
the
rest
of
the
United
Kingdom
votes
another
way
and
we
are
left
powerless.
How
do
we
avoid
that
happening?
Ever
again?
There
is
only
one
answer
to
that
and
the
answer
is
independence,
and
the
second
thing
is
the
positive
nature.
I
know
mr.
Rowley
and
I
both
want
to
see
a
better
Scotland
for
all
its
citizens,
but
to
be
fair,
the
Labour
Party
has
tried
to
do
that
over
the
last
hundred
years
and
look
where
we
are.
B
The
solution
to
a
better
Scotland
is
Scotland.
It
works
for
all
its
citizens
is
the
normal
solution
of
Independence
and,
what's
more,
we
see
it
working
all
across
Europe,
because
11
members
of
the
EU
are
the
same.
Size
are
smaller
than
Scotland.
We
are
as
prosperous
as
there
anybody
else.
We
are,
in
actual
fact,
the
best
educated
country
in
Europe.
Officially
we
have
huge
assets.
We
have
the
awkward.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
do
exceptionally.
B
Well,
the
naked
say
we
shout
from
the
laborer
backbenches
they're
always
going
to
do
that,
but
the
reality
is
Scotland
Shortland
and
also
the
hallo
last
laughter
is
from
those
that
do
not
understand
that
Scotland
has
every
bit
as
greater
potential
as
any
other
country.
Let's
be
real
about
it.
Let's
realize
that
potential.
Let's
choose
independence
and
I.
Look
forward.
I,
look
forward
to
working
mr.
Riley
in
an
independent
Scotland
to
build
the
best
possible
place
for
all
our
citizens
party.
A
F
Because
I
really
really
can't
apparently
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
their
cabinet
secretary
mentions
the
level
playing
field
probations
in
the
withdrawal
agreement,
or
rather
those
that
have
been
removed
from
the
withdrawal
agreement
and
put
into
the
weaker
non-binding
political
declaration,
and
we
know
why
this
has
been
done
a
hard
right,
libertarian
agenda
by
some
in
the
UK
government.
Indeed
just
this
month.
F
Let's
trust
the
trade
secretary
said
that
scrapping
those
protections
is
vital
for
giving
us
the
freedom
and
flexibility
to
strike
new
trade
deals
and,
on
the
same
day,
an
unnamed
cabinet
source
told
the
Sun
the
level
playing
field
promised
has
to
go.
It
would
seriously
restrict
our
ability
to
deregulate
if
that
withdrawal
agreement
bill
is
put
forward
after
the
election.
B
There
are,
of
course,
proposals
that
I
have
brought
to
the
table
in
to
join
ministerial
committee
to
reform
the
legend
of
consent
process
which
have
been
utterly
ignored
by
the
UK
government,
and
therefore
it
is
impossible
for
it
to
see
us
giving
lessons
consent
to
the
this
bill
or
any
other
bill
to
do
with
breaks
it
unless
those
are
reformed.
But
let
me
come
to
the
issue
of
level
playing
field,
because
it
is
absolutely
it's
central
to
the
issues
we've
got
here
and
the
short
answer
to
mr.
B
Harvey
is:
there
is
nothing
in
the
present
devolution
settlement
that
in
the
end
cannot
be
overruled,
and
that
is
why
independence
is
the
only
way
to
defend
Scotland
against
brexit
to
get
done
with
brexit
by
making
sure
that
we
can
move
on
once
and
for
all
from
it.
The
level
playing
field
provisions
were
agreed
to
by
Tereza
may
as
a
means
of
moving
forward.
B
They
are
an
absolute
and
nassima
to
most
current
Tories
in
the
House
of
Commons
and
particularly
to
the
Prime
Minister
and
hard
right
around
him,
and
it
is
quite
clear
that
this
will
be
the
major
issue
to
be
discussed
debated
in
the
in
the
transition
period,
and
there
is
no
way
that
the
EU
will
weaken
its
position
on
it.
Mr.
Bernier
says
no
tariffs,
no
quotas,
no
dumping.
B
It
is
absolutely
central
to
the
relationship
that
will
exist
and
because
the
Prime
Minister
and
those
around
them
hate
those
regulations,
they
hate
workers
protections
they
human
rights,
they
hate
environmental
protections
in
all
those
circumstances.
In
all
those
circumstances,
what
will
happen
is
those
will
be
chipped
away
at.
There
will
be
a
road
it
bit
by
a
bit,
and
ordinary
people
will
suffer
greatly
now
there
most
of
the
parties
in
this
Parliament,
not
all
probably,
but
most
of
the
parties
in
this
Parliament
want
to
protect
people's
basic
human
rights.
B
G
Minister
is
rightly
incredulous
that
the
Conservatives
can't
defend
a
deal
that
puts
a
border
in
the
Irish
Sea
when
they
condemn
that
deal
last
year,
I'm
not
sure
how
they
can
call
themselves
unionists
anymore,
but
I
am
puzzled
that
the
minister
states
that
breaking
from
the
EU
will
be
a
disaster,
but
breaking
from
the
UK
will
be
of
benefit.
Does
he
not
get
it
by
now
that
putting
up
board
and
barriers
cost
jobs
and
the
economy
does
he
know
understand
that
we
need
to
learn
the
lessons
of
brexit,
not
repeat
them
with
independence?
B
Secretary
well,
I
agree
with
the
member
that
we
should
stop
brexit,
but
then
we
aren't.
He
is
that
he
has
no
plan
to
stop
brexit.
His
only
plan
to
stock
brakes,
it
was
to
have
was
to
have
a
second
referendum,
and
we
would
still
support
that
second
referendum,
whether
a
prospect
of
it
succeeding.
But
the
member
has
consistently
failed
to
address
the
central
question
in
this
because
he
cannot
guarantee
it
any
sense
that
there
will
be
a
defeat
for
the
forces
of
brexit
now
or
in
the
future.
B
A
Thank
you.
No
all
the
parties
have
had
a
chance
to
make
an
opening
steamers
alongside
the
question,
so
can
I
just
encourage
all
the
subsequent
questioners
to
ask
a
question
about
the
statement
and
a
boat
that
was
12
agreement
rather
than
particularly
I.
Don't
want
to
hear
any
camp
any
pleas
to
vote
for
one
part
to
another
on
December
the
12th.
So
if
that's
in
your
question,
please
remove
it
now
before
I
call.
You
I
called
jeath
Keith
Brown
to
be
followed
by
Jimmy
green
key
phone.
H
B
I
do
agree,
and,
of
course,
if
you
look
at
the
track
record
and
history
of
the
person,
that's
seeing
it
they've
not
been
right
about
much
over
a
long
period
of
time,
but
then
you
actually
have
to
look
more
widely
and
look
at
what
the
UK
ministers
themselves
said
and
did
say
about
the
process
of
negotiation
of
the
EU
over
the
withdrawal
agreement.
This
was
meant
to
be
the
easiest
agreement
on
record.
This
was
meant
all
the
cards.
B
I
think
David
Davis
said
all
the
cards
were
in
the
UK's
hands,
and
this
would
essentially
be
over
by
Christmas
it's
not
even
over
by
this
Christmas,
let
alone
the
Christmas
he
was
meeting
the
reality
of
this
situation
is
nobody.
Nobody,
who
is
any
involvement
or
interest
in
or
knowledge
of,
free
trade
negotiations,
particularly
with
the
EU,
who
have
the
best
negotiators
in
the
world,
believes
this
will
be
concluded
by
the
end
of
2020.
What
is
more
likely
and,
of
course,
some
ERG
members
have
given
the
game
away
on
this.
B
What
is
more
likely
is
that
the
side
assurances
that
come
from
people
like
Michael
Gove
that
in
actual
fact,
there's
no
intention
of
coming
to
a
deal
because
they
want
no
deal
at
the
end
of
the
spirit.
Those
are
the
things
that
count
for
them,
and
people
should
remember
that
getting
brexit
done
in
those
terms
means
getting
what
the
Tory
right
wing
wants,
and
it
doesn't
want
to
be
tied
down
by
the
things
that
the
EU
insist
upon
the
level
playing
field.
That
is
the
reality.
Jamie.
J
You
officer,
this
agreement
provides
the
gateway
to
the
UK's
exit
from
the
Common
Fisheries
Policy
and
the
UK
becoming
an
independent
coastal
state.
Those
are
the
words
of
the
Scottish
fisherman's
Federale,
which
begs
the
question
presiding
officer.
If
the
agreement
is
good
enough
for
our
freshmen,
why
isn't
that?
Good
enough
for
Mike
Russell
and
the
SNP
cameras.
B
Well,
it's
not
good
enough
for
many
of
the
fishermen
I
represent
I
have
to
say,
and
there
are
very
considerable
fears
that
are
now
arising.
Let
me
give
Jamie
Greene
one
of
them.
He
is
a
an
MSP
that
represents
I,
think
the
West
of
Scotland.
He
might
consider
this
because
it
will
affect
people
that
he
knows
the
agreement
would
permit
boats,
particularly
inshore
boats,
that
fish
in
the
Clyde
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
of
the
Mall
of
kintyre,
to
register
in
Northern
Ireland
and
to
sell
our
produce
in
Northern
Ireland.
B
That
would
allow
them
to
sell
it
without
tariffs
and
without
difficulties.
So
it
could
spend
the
fairly
end
of
the
processing
sector
in
whole
parts
of
the
west
coast
of
Scotland.
That's
the
reality
of
it
more
rock,
moreover,
moreover,
I
don't
think
anybody
who
has
been
involved
in
any
way
in
looking
at
fishing
over
the
last
10,
15,
20,
30
or
40
years,
would
believe
a
word.
The
UK
government
said
to
the
fisherman
Federation
or
anybody
else,
because
what
will
happen
is
this?
B
Will
their
rights
will
be
traded
away
as
they
always
have
been
so
Jamie
Jamie?
Greene
Jamie
Greene
needs
to
consider
the
reality
of
what
has
happened
and
the
reality
of
what
can
happen
out
of
this
agreement
and
perhaps
be
a
little
bit
more
skeptical
about
what
he
is
told
by
the
UK
government.
Animal.
H
You
presiding
officer,
the
couple
a
couple
secretary,
the
Tories
in
this
chamber,
used
to
hold
to
the
principle
that
they
wouldn't
support
a
deal
that
created
a
border
of
any
kind
in
the
Irish
Sea,
nor
one
that
led
to
Northern
Ireland's
having
a
different
relationship
with
the
EU
than
the
rest
of
the
UK.
Can
the
cabinet
secretary
clarify
given
that
Boris
Johnson
still
does
both
whether
he
has
had
any
indication
that
the
Scottish
Tories
not
oppose
this
deal?
Or
is
it
simply
a
case
of
the
Tories
in
Scotland,
saying
those
are
my
principles?
A
B
I
think
that
sums
it
up
pretty
well
I
mean
I've,
quoted
from
I've
quoted
from
Ruth
Davidson
and
David
Mandela
I've
quoted
from
Adam
Tompkins
I,
repeat
at
Tompkins
Worlds.
There
can
be
no
separate
brexit
deal
for
each
of
the
nations
that
comprise
the
United
Kingdom.
No
unionists
could
ever
endorse
any
sort
of
differentiate
deal.
This
is
a
differentiated
deal.
There
is,
there
are
no
ifs
and
buts
about
it.
K
Recognising
the
paper
that's
published
today,
the
cabinet
secretary,
will
he
join
me
in
calling
for
the
UK
government
to
publish
their
economic
analysis
and
forecast
for
this
damaging
deal
so
that
the
electorate
can
be
properly
informed
about
the
impact
of
this
deal
will
have
on
our
country
as
they
go
to
the
polls.
I
wonder.
A
B
Agree
with
with
the
member,
certainly
with
regard
to
the
UK
government.
Publishing
information
I
did,
however,
ask
Michael
Gove
years
ago,
if
there
had
been
any
work
done
on
the
comparative
disadvantage
between
Scotland
and
Northern
Ireland.
Given
the
deal-
and
he
said
their
hat
so
I-
suppose
it's
pretty
impossible
for
them
to
publish
work.
They
haven't
done,
but
they
should
have
done
work
on
the
impact
of
this
deal
and
that
work
should
be
published.
Ruth.
L
Officer,
the
cabinet
secretary
will
note
the
2018.
You
came
a
grecian
advisory
committees
conclusion
the
EEA
migrants
are
net
contributors
to
our
health
service
and
then
the
provision
of
Social
Care
through
both
financial
resources
and
work.
My
ear
share
constituents
requiring
vital
support
both
in
hospital
and
at
home
value
and
depend
upon
the
care
they
receive
from
our
workers
from
EU
countries.
Yet
the
Tories
can't
stop
boasting
about
how
this
deal
will
end
freedom
of
movement.
L
B
B
If
I
look
at
my
own
constituency,
I
know
that
freedom
of
movement
is
actually
vital
as
a
means
of
trying
to
stem
the
the
the
rise
of
depopulation
and
the
difficulties
that
we
have,
and
this
deal
will
continue
to
drive
EU
citizens
out
of
Scotland
and
will
be
a
disincentive
for
citizens
to
come
to.
Scotland
I
was
speaking
at
the
nfu
autumn
conference
last
last
Friday,
and
there
were
farmers
there,
particularly
on
the
East
Coast,
those
involved
with
fruit
farming,
who
have
seen
part
of
their
crop
brought
on
the
bushes
this
year.
B
We
know
in
England.
Part
of
the
apple
crop
has
rocked
rotted
on
the
trees
this
year
because
of
shortage
of
labour.
This
will
only
get
worse.
Supporting
the
end
of
freedom
of
movement
is
bad
for
incoming
labour
and
it
is
really
bad
for
people
who
want
to
go
elsewhere.
I
recorded
a
brief
message
this
morning
for
a
Scottish
lady
who
is
teaching
us
this
song
in
the
South
of
France
and
I.
M
You
upstanding
officer
thing
also
less
than
10
days
ago,
Michael
golf
confirmed
to
this
part
of
its
Finance
Committee.
But
to
this
deal
that's
on
the
table,
it
would
actually
pervade
ease
of
access
or
Northern
Ireland
to
this
thing,
with
European
single
market
as
compared
to
elsewhere
within
the
UK,
including
Scotland.
So
with
that
in
mind,
what
are
the
implications
for
Scottish
persons
being
at
a
competitive
disadvantage
and
does
the
cabinet
secretary
believe
that
the
Tories
have
actual
no
through
and
Scottish
businesses
under
bonuses
breaks,
applause.
B
Well,
the
number
of
bodies
under
the
brakes
approach
is
quite
considerable,
because
the
Northern
Ireland
has
been
thrown
under
it.
Breaks
apart,
Scottish
businesses
that
the
student
won't
be
room
underneath
it
they'll
have
to
get
another
bus
with
another,
vacuous
and
inoculate
in
accurate
slogan
upon
it.
But
the
reality
of
this
deal
is
I've
tried
to
indicate
in
the
statement
is
that
Scottish
businesses
will
be
put
as
a
disadvantage,
and
it
is
obviously
so
because
Northern
Ireland
will
have
direct
access
to
the
single
market
and
we'll
be
in
to
customs
zones.
B
There
will
be
considerable
difficulties
in
implementing
that
and
difficulties
Scottish
ports
and
implementing
that,
but
there
is
no
doubt
for
this
will
against
the
interest
of
Scotland.
If
people
were
going
to
set
up
a
business
that
worked
and
needed
to
work
within
it
with
the
EU
or
within
the
EU,
they
would
do
so
in
Northern
Ireland,
not
in
Scotland.
That
is
where
we
are
now
now.
The
other
disadvantage
is
the
Democratic
disadvantage.
It
is
absolutely
wrong.
The
Northern
Ireland
should
have
the
opportunity
to
say
yes
or
no
to
this
deal
on
a
regular
basis.
B
Quite
interestingly,
of
course,
apparently
having
an
independence
referendum
after
six
or
seven
years
is
wrong,
but
you
can
actually
look
at
this
again
in
Northern
Ireland
every
four
years.
That
seems
a
rather
curious
contradiction,
but
the
reality
is
they
deal
favors
Northern,
Ireland
I'm,
not
against
Northern,
Ireland
being
given
all
the
special
treatment
at
once,
but
I
do
think
that
Scotland
should
not
be
left
at
a
disadvantage
as
a
result
of
that
cream.
N
Thank
you
on
17th
of
October
Dame
Caroline
Fairbairn,
the
director-general
of
the
CBI,
said
this
deal.
Unlocks
a
transition
period
guarantees
rights
of
the
four
million
citizens
living
abroad
in
the
UK
and
EU
and
opens
a
pathway
to
a
new
EU
UK
partnership.
It
would
keep
trade
flowing
freely
across
the
island
of
Ireland
and,
most
importantly,
avoid
our
damaging
No
Deal
scenario,
presiding
officer.
Why
does
the
Cabinet
Secretary
think
he
knows
more?
What's
best
for
business
than
the
leader
of
British
business.
A
B
As
he
as
the
member
knows,
I
know,
the
member
has
been
a
keen
brexit
ear,
so
so
maybe
he's
just
glossed
over
at
the
start
of
that
statement,
but
energy
fed
her
first
premise
was
no
brakes
at
all.
Her
first
premise
was
that
she
did
not
want
brexit
to
take
place,
and
that's
exactly
my
first
premise
here
because
breaks
it.
It
will
be
damaging,
no
matter
what,
when
you
get
to
the
stage
that
your
businesses
are
suffering
greatly.
B
Of
course
you
will
gasp
any
straw
you
can't
can,
but
this
is
a
straw
and
it's
a
very
weak
straw
and
it's
fact,
a
straw
that
will
not
raise
you
up
in
the
water
in
the
slightest,
because
it's
going
to
cook
caused
enormous
difficulties
and
even
worse
difficulties
for
Scotland,
and
if
mr.
Simpson
would
like
to
go
online
and
I
invite
him
to
go
online
and
look
at
the
map
of
Scotland
that
we
have
put
up
with
his
7000
data's
owns
that
show
how
brexit
will
impact
it.
He
will
find
in
every
of
Scotland.
B
B
If
he
was
the
last
man
standing
in
a
brakes
at
Scotland,
he
would
be
happy,
but
there
are
people
on
the
Tory
benches
who
were
opposed
to
this,
who
knew
how
bad
it
was,
and
they
are
the
ones
who
are
really
culpable
because
they're
allowing
this
to
happen
and
they're,
allowing
that
damage
to
take
place
and
they're,
not
lifting
a
finger
to
speak
up
for
those
they
represent.
Jenny.
O
You
presiding
officer,
Boris
Johnson's
commitment
to
protect
workers,
rights
has
been
shown
to
be
nothing
but
smoke
and
mirrors.
Does
the
Cabinet
say
actually
see
this
deal
as
I
do
as
facilitating
a
race
to
the
bottom
when
it
comes
to
standards
and
rights
derived
from
EU
membership,
particularly
environmental
protection
and
the
rights
of
working
people?
Obviously,.
B
The
level
playing
field
as
I
keep
stressing
is
absolutely
central
to
this,
and
if
you
look
at
what's
happened
to
the
level
playing
field,
commitment
has
moved
from
the
legally
binding
withdrawal
agreement
into
the
non-binding
protocol,
which
should
make
anybody
suspicious
then
you're
in
the
position
in
the
non-binding
protocol,
where,
behind
the
scenes,
senior
Tory
figures
are
saying,
don't
worry
lads
we'll
get
rid
of
this?
We
don't
really
want
this
at
all
and
if,
in
those
circumstances,
anybody
who
believes
anybody
who
believes
that
this
deal
guarantees
workers
rights,
guarantees,
human
rights
or
guarantees.
P
It
would
reward
just
yards
from
this
place.
We
see
people
sleeping
in
the
cold
streets,
audacity,
people
dying
from
drugs
and
record
numbers
and
waiting
times
for
health
services
growing
I
wish.
We
were
hearing
from
the
government
on
these
important
issues
rather
than
this
pathetic
no
kaboom
today,
but
does
the
cabinet
secretary
accept
the
breaks
that
has
nothing
compared
to
the
complexity
and
upheaval
of
unravelling
300
years
of
social,
economic
and
political
integration
with
their
friends
and
neighbors
across
the
UK
and
what
would
be
better.
P
B
The
I
know
it's
difficult
for
mr.
Finley
to
be
self-reflective
or
self-critical,
but
let
me
let
me
let
me
ask
him:
let
me
ask
him
to
do
so.
Let
me
ask
him
just
to
do
so
for
a
moment
and
to
think
about
this
point
that
the
actions
of
the
Labour
Party
have
enabled
a
Tory
government
to
run
scotland
for
generations,
and
if
we
were
to
take
actions
that
prevented
that
happening,
then
we
would
not
have
had
austerity.
We
would
not
have
had
the
cruel
social
policies
we
have
had.
B
We
would
not
have
had
they
bearing
down
upon
the
Scottish
and
local
authority
budgets
have
taken
place,
so
it
is
a
choice
for
mr.
Finlay
to
make,
because
no
matter
what
he's,
no
matter
what
he
says
the
longer
he
perpetuates
the
ability
of
the
Tories
to
run
down
Scotland
the
more
he
himself
will
be
culpable
for
the
problems
he
talks
about.
Q
You
presiding
officer,
Scottish,
exports
of
Technology,
digital
and
media
services
represent
nearly
10%
of
our
total
exports
to
the
European.
Union
resulted
in
over
1.4
billion
pounds
worth
of
trade.
Can
his
cabinet
sector
confirm
under
Les
Deux
Scotland
and
the
UK
will
be
operating
outside
of
the
digital
single
market
and
what
clarity
has
the
UK
government
provided
as
to
what
this
means,
for
example,
for
e-commerce
country-of-origin
principles
and
on
geo
blocking
camera.
B
The
member
is
a
very
important
point.
The
digital
single
market
opera
offers
a
huge
opportunity
to
companies
large
and
small
within
Scotland.
The
transition
period
would
see
us
continuing
in
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
transition
period
of
massive
is
specifically
negotiated
and
it's
a
complex
thing
to
negotiate,
because
it
involves
issues
of
data
security
amongst
others.
We
would
not
be
part
of
that
now.
B
That
would
be
bad
enough,
but
there
are
issues
and
bred
suit,
which
are
opportunities
for
gone
things
that
we
would
be
involved
in,
which
would
continue
to
grow
and
develop,
which
we
are
within
stand
back
from,
because
we're
shout
out
from,
and
the
digital
single
market
is
a
really
strong
example.
Not
only
will
it
disadvantage
us
not
to
be
in
it,
it
will
greatly
disadvantage
our
growing
tech
sector
are
exciting
tech
sector.
R
Four
dispatches
this
week
uncovers
secret
talks
between
the
UK
and
the
US.
The
government's
under
pharmaceutical
industry
regarding
the
US
have
an
access
to
the
NHS
post
breaks
in
the
form
of
trade
deals.
I
find
this
deeply
concerning
well,
the
cabinet
secretary
joined
me
in
condemning
the
u.s.
involvement
in
our
NHS
and
while
he
encouraged
the
UK
government
to
fully
disclose
all
talks
between
the
government's
with
regards
to
trade
deals,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
our
NHS
Cavendish.
B
It's
the
member
makes
a
really
important
point.
Not
only
was
with
the
revelations
in
the
dispatcher's
program
deeply
troubling,
but
of
course
the
revelation
is
also
illustrated
the
fact
that
Scotland
had
not
been
consulted
in
the
slightest.
My
good
friend
here,
the
health
secretary
had
not
had
a
phone
call
from
Matt,
Hancock
or
anybody
else
to
say
what
do
you
think
of
this?
How
should
we
have
these
conversations?
B
In
fact,
we
would
deliberately
cut
out
from
it
and
as
with
health,
so
it
will
be
with
agriculture,
so
it
will
be
with
fisheries,
so
it
will
be
with
all
sectors
of
the
Scottish
economy.
There
will
be
every
attempt
to
keep
us
away
from
any
discussions
of
trade.
Now
we
published
a
paper
last
year
on
trade
I
know
my
my
friend
a
trade
minister.