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A
You
colleagues,
the
next
item
of
business,
is
consideration
of
business
motion.
One
nine
zero.
Two
four
in
the
name
of
agreeably,
the
minister
of
power
mention
business
on
behalf
of
the
bureau,
setting
out
a
timetable
on
the
stage
three
consideration
of
the
climate
change
emissions
reduction
target
to
Scotland
bill
could
I
Colin
Morris
Gordon
as
mayor
of
the
bureau
to
move
this
motion
moved.
Thank
you
very
much.
No
member
wishes
to
speak
against
the
motion.
Therefore,
the
question
is
that
motion
1
9,
0
2
4
be
agreed.
Are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed.
A
So
the
next
item
is
stage
3
proceedings
on
the
climate
change
emissions
reduction
targets
Scotland
bill
in
dealing
with
the
amendments.
Members
should
have
the
bill
as
amended
at
stage
2
the
marshaled
list,
the
supplement
to
the
marshal
list
and
the
grouping
of
amendments
I've
just
remind
members
that
the
Division
Bell
will
sound
and
proceedings
will
be
suspended
for
five
minutes
for
the
first
division
of
the
afternoon.
The
period
of
voting
for
the
first
version
will
be
30
seconds
thereafter.
I
will
allow
a
14
period
of
one
minute
for
the
first
division.
A
A
B
You
presiding
officer,
this
grouping
contains
two
very
minor
technical
amendments,
I
mean
which
need
little
explanation.
Amendment
two
fixes
a
duplicate
of
section
heading
in
the
2009
Act
amendment
five
into
you,
insurer's
wording,
consistency
between
the
provisions
for
calculating
annual
targets,
I
move
amendment
2
in
my
name.
A
Thank
you
very
much
on
as
no
one
else
wishes
to
comment
on
this
group.
The
question
is
that
amendment
to
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed.
We
are
agreed
so
return
now
to
group
two
on
interim
targets
and
I
call
amendment
17
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish,
mrs.
grouped
with
a
permit,
18
and
I
would
remind
members
at
this
stage
that
amendment
17
and
18
are
direct
alternatives,
so
direct
alternatives
are
two
or
more
amendments
seeking
to
replace
the
same
text
in
a
bill
with
alternative
approaches.
A
A
vote
will
be
taken
on
both
amendments
17
and
18,
in
the
order
in
which
they
appear
in
the
martial
list.
If
both
17
and
18
were
to
be
agreed
to,
then
the
second
amendment
that
his
amendment
18
succeeds,
the
former
and
the
first
amendment
17
will
cease
to
have
effect
so
Claudia
be
wish
to
move
a
member
17
and
speak
to
both
amendments
in
the
group.
C
This
chamber
well
knows
that
the
UN
say
that
we
now
have
11
years
to
stop
irreparable
climate
damage
and
that
what
happens
in
the
next
decade
is
crucial.
The
opposition
parties
came
to
agree
that
the
SNP
is
proposal
for
the
2030
target
at
70%,
only
a
few
degrees
up
from
what
it
was
back
in
the
date
back
in
2009
wasn't
good
enough.
The
real
evidence
base
for
this
decision
had
to
come
from
the
IPCC,
the
climate
catastrophes
we
have
already
been
witnessing
and
the
public
mandate
from
the
brilliant
climate
strikers.
C
It
is
a
political
decision,
but
it
is
based
in
science.
I
came
to
submit
75
for
stage
3
in
the
hope
that
it
would
be
a
place
of
consensus
in
the
midpoint
of
the
first
shares
calculation
coming
down
from
our
own
Scottish
labor,
higher
initial
position
of
77
I'm
delighted.
This
has
been
successful
and
that
all
parties
have
come
to
agree
I'm,
proud
of
the
energy
and
vision
shown
at
UK
Labor's
conference
this
week
and
the
motion
agreed
on
the
new
Green
Deal.
Although
he
is
sympathetic
to
amendment
18
labour
will
today
abstain.
C
We
look
forward
to
consulting
on
a
unique
Scottish
position,
including
how
we
can
take
action
to
deliver
beyond
75
percent
for
the
interim
target
of
2030
across
the
parties.
There
is
a
clear
grasp,
but
the
challenges
faced
by
the
agriculture
and
land-use
sectors
in
terms
of
the
challenges
and
need
for
funding
and
advisory
support
and
adjust
transition.
It
just
also
acknowledged
that
many
of
the
carbon
accounting
systems
for
farms
must
be
altered
to
to
recognize
that
peat
restoration
and
tree
planting
and
other
issues.
C
We
have
all
received
significant
numbers
of
emails,
calling
for
bolder
interim
targets.
Many
of
us
have
also
been
in
dialogue
with
extinction.
Rebellion
members
about
their
radical
brave
demands.
I
also
expect
members
across
this
chamber
were
at
the
first
throughout
the
climate
strike
last
Friday
and
I
hope
their
enthusiasm
and
frustration
and
unity
rocked
you
all.
The
interim
target
is,
above
all,
all
justice
for
those
young
people.
If
we
set
a
business-as-usual
target,
we
will
shake
their
trust
in
this
Parliament.
C
Another
of
the
institutions
that
has
failed
to
take
on
this
issue
seriously
so
far
for
far
too
long
I
do
not
want
this
Parliament
to
shake
its
head
and
turn
its
back
on
these
brilliant
young
people
and
on
the
generations
to
come
and
on
the
global
South.
So
I
urge
this
chamber
to
support
a
stronger
interim
target
for
Scotland
and
show
we
are
truly
world
leaders
and
then
to
go
on
from
there.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
we
have
10
years
just
two
parliamentary
sessions
left
to
tackle
the
climate
emergency.
That's
the
challenge
laid
down
by
the
scientists
and
by
the
thousands
of
young
people
protesting
on
our
streets.
It's
the
debt
from
our
industrial
history
that
we
carry
and
it
demands
that
we
do
our
fair
and
our
equitable
share.
If
we
don't
come
out
of
today
with
a
bill
that
rises
to
that
challenge,
then
we
will
have
spectacularly
failed
ourselves:
the
young
and
future
generations.
D
The
Greens
have
led
the
call
to
strengthen
the
2030
targets
in
this
bill.
80
percent
by
2030
would
dramatically
improve
our
chances
of
keeping
the
world
within
1.5
degrees
of
warming.
It
will
give
us
the
best
hope
that
we
can
survive
extinction.
A
lower
target
and
the
advice
in
the
UK
climate
change
committee
are
based
on
a
gamble,
a
50-50
chance
of
keeping
the
world
safely
within
1.5
degrees,
presiding
officer.
Would
you
gamble
your
children's
future
on
the
flip
of
a
coin?
I
know
I.
Wouldn't
the
UK
climate
change
committee
was
clear
in
its
stage.
D
Parliament
is
waiting
for
this
government
to
fully
review
all
policies
and
propose
new
actions,
but
we
can't
wait
for
yet
more
delay
and
year
of
analysis
of
our
options.
We
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
We
know
that
we
know
that
a
Scottish,
green
New
Deal,
using
every
lever
available
to
transition
to
a
zero
carbon
economy
is
the
transformational
change
that
we
need
now.
Labour
proposed
a
moderate
increase
to
the
2030
target
to
75
percent
and
I
welcome
this
in
the
commitment
from
the
SNP
today.
But
it's
not
enough.
D
A
E
You
presiding
officer,
it's
clear
that
business
as
usual
will
only
make
the
dangers
presented
by
climate
emergency
declared
by
both
the
UK
and
the
Scottish
government
earlier
this
year.
Worse,
that's
why
the
Scottish
Conservatives
supported
the
scottish
government's
commitment
to
setting
a
more
ambitious
emissions
target
for
2045
and
voted
in
favour
of
amendments
to
bring
forward
interim
targets.
F
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
my
five
years
as
climate
change,
minister,
fundamentally
changed
my
life
when
we
sat
at
2050
target
I,
told
colleagues
that
I
hoped
to
be
a
hundred
and
four
years
old,
I'm,
very
grateful
that
we
brought
it
forward
by
five
years.
I
only
need
to
be
99
years
old
in
2045,
but
even
in
2030,
I
hope
to
be
84.
But
therefore
that
tells
you
it's
not
about
a
wrinkly
old
soul
like
myself.
It
is
about
the
generations
who
have
to
follow
I,
admire
unambiguously
and
without
reservation.
F
The
efforts
of
youngsters
we
in
our
committee
had
a
primary
age.
School
student
come
to
talk
to
us
and
the
most
impressive
person
she
was.
We
are
to
her
to
all
the
youngsters.
Who've
been
campaigning
to
set
targets
which
are
realistic,
founded
in
science
and
which
will
be
hard
for
us
to
actually
deliver
on
the
75%
figure.
1
I,
initially
I
must
say,
had
reservations
about.
70%
is
already
world-leading,
but
75%
in
trenches,
Scotland
position
as
a
world
leader
in
climate
change,
but
there's
nothing
good
about
being
a
world
leader.
F
If
we
don't
use
that
leadership
to
persuade
others,
we
are
about
one
seven
hundredths
of
the
world's
emissions,
so
I
hope
the
Parliament
will
unite
because
there's
a
united,
unanimous
view.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
will
have
the
credibility
to
persuade
others.
We
must
do
that
to
support
future
generations,
presiding
officer,
Thank.
G
It
was
once
supported
by
the
advice
of
the
UK
ccc,
but
setting
such
a
target
would
be
largely
symbolic
unless
we
also
commit
to
greater
ambition
and
young
urgency
in
the
early
stages
over
the
next
decade.
The
IPCC
report
in
2018
could
not
have
been
clearer
to
limit
global
warming
to
one
and
a
half
degrees
centigrade.
It
requires
court
rapid,
far-reaching
and
unprecedented
changes
in
all
aspects
of
society.
Moreover,
the
IPCC
confirmed
that
what
happens
between
now
and
2030
is
crucial
in
response
to
this
advice.
G
I
believe
that
setting
the
target
of
70
percent
reduction
in
emissions
by
2030
is
inadequate.
It
represents
only
a
marginal
increase,
but
what
was
set
in
the
2009
act
and
as
the
UK
CCC
itself
itself
acknowledged,
it
emerged
from
simply
drawing
a
straight
line
from
emissions
in
2020
to
the
date
of
net
zero
I.
Think
setting
a
more
ambitious
target
for
2030
still
needs
to
be
based
on
what
is
realistic
and
achievable.
If
nothing
else.
G
This
allows
us
to
take
people
with
us
to
ensure
that
they
can
and
will
play
their
part
in
the
necessary
transition.
There's
been
much
discussion
with
colleagues
across
parties
about
what
an
appropriate
figure
of
my
being
and
welcomed
that
cross
part
of
the
engagement
that
I
think
has
characterized
the
scrutiny
of
this
bill
overall,
but
I
believe
75%.
G
Since
the
right
balance,
it
is
stretching,
it
will
be
extremely
challenging,
but
it
is
achievable
and
sets
us
on
a
course
for
net
zero
emissions
by
2045
to
go
beyond
seventy
five
percent
at
this
stage
and
if
there
should,
of
course
be
scope
within
this
bill
for
targets
to
be
reviewed
as
evidence
and
opportunities
to
change.
But
at
this
stage
to
go
further
relaxed,
I,
believe
credibility
and
therefore
I
support.
The
amendment
and
Chloe
communities
need
Thank.
B
Officer
throughout
the
bill
process,
the
Scottish
Government
has
remain
committed
to
following
the
independent
expert
advice
of
the
Committee
on
climate
change,
on
what
constitutes
the
most
ambitious
targets
that
are
also
credible.
We
immediately
lodged
amendments
that
stage
two
to
put
the
CCC's
recommended
targets,
including
net
zero
by
2045
and
a
70%
reduction
by
2030
into
the
bill.
The
approach
of
following
the
CCC's
advice
is
also
what
the
ECR
ACC
LR
Committee
called
for
in
its
stage
to
report
on
the
bill.
B
One
of
the
key
strengths
of
Scotland's
approach
to
emissions
reductions,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
it's
been
so
successful
to
date
is
the
reliance
on
an
evidence
based
approach
based
on
the
best
available
scientific
advice.
This
government
remains
committed
to
maintaining
that
link
between
the
evidence,
the
pathway
we
play
Scotland
on
for
the
years
to
come.
The
CCC
has
set
out
the
most
robust
scientific
assessment
of
the
right
targets
for
Scotland
and
the
UK.
It
is
clear
that
our
2045
NetZero
target
is
correct
and
the
most
ambitious
scientifically
feasible.
B
The
CCC
itself
has
also
set
out
that
there
is
a
gap
in
their
detailed
analysis
of
the
path
for
emissions
in
the
years
up
to
2045.
In
the
absence
of
that
detailed
work
which
they
have
committed
to
undertake,
their
initial
analysis
suggested
that
the
right
target
for
Scotland
it
was
for
2030
was
70
percent.
They
explicitly
said
that
they
had
chosen
a
prudent
target
of
70
percent,
and
we've
always
been
clear
that
we
believe
this
meets
the
requirements
of
the
Paris
climate
agreement.
Mark.
A
D
B
All
parties
supporting
this
amendment
must
understand
how
enormous
Lee
challenging
a
75%
target
will
be
and
must
be
prepared
to
join
us
in
making
the
difficult
delivery
decisions
that
will
follow
in
agreeing
to
by
far
the
most
ambitious
statutory
target
for
2030
of
any
country
anywhere
in
the
world.
Parliament
is
committing
itself
to
supporting
the
pathway
set
out
in
the
bill
and
the
tough
policies
required
by
that
pathway.
Let
me
be
clear:
two
opposition
parties
in
this
chamber
when
recent
proposals
have
been
put
forward
to
tackle
emissions,
for
instance,
introducing
a
workplace
parking
levy.
B
They
have
been
met
with
fierce
opposition
to
have
any
hope
of
achieving
a
higher
target
for
2030.
Those
parties
who
are
calling
for
the
higher
target
and
claim
to
be
serious
about
tackling
climate
change
will
need
to
back
such
assertions
with
action.
If
Parliament
sets
this
target,
it
is
no
longer
an
option
for
any
party
to
stand
in
the
way
of
the
measures
we
need
to
take
to
tackle
climate
change.
The
targa
also
represents
a
clear
challenge
to
the
UK
government
to
step
up
and
match
Scotland's
high
ambition.
B
The
current
UK
target
for
2030
of
a
50/50
7%
reduction
will
not
support
the
delivery
of
a
75%
reduction
here
in
Scotland
I
would
invite
members
to
note
that
the
CCC's
recommended
70
percent
target
for
2030,
let
alone
75
percent
would
be
the
most
ambitious
in
law
of
any
country
in
the
world.
I've
already
referred
to
the
UK's
current
target
of
57
percent,
the
--use
current
target,
the
EU
s
current
target
is
for
40%
and
Sweden's
main
target
for
that
year,
which
is
across
some
sectors
only
is
for
63
percent.
A
C
Although
I've
listened
to
what
the
cabinet
secretary
is
saying,
and
we
have
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
supports
communities
and
workers
and
the
global
South,
so
I
think
that's
that's
a
very
important
issue
to
do.
I
think
I
mean
Stewart.
Stevenson
highlighted
the
area
around
calling
ourselves
world
leaders
and
I
think
we
are
certainly
up
there
and
in
relation
to
the
fact
that
very
excitingly
next
year
that
the
clock
will
be
coming
to
Glasgow.
C
We
can
all
push
forward
as
hard
as
we
can
to
make
sure
that
we
are
the
are
the
very
best
so
that
we
can
be
a
really
strong
example
to
the
world
and
also
as
a
developing
country,
make
sure
that
we
don't
impact
heavily
or
indeed
at
all,
if
possible,
on
the
global
south.
I
I
wanted
just
to
recognize
very
briefly.
C
If
I
may
presiding
officer,
I'm
sat
next
to
Sarah
black
and
that
Stuart
Stevenson
was
also
involved
in
the
2009
act
and
recognized
that
their
work
and
those
of
those
that
put
that
into
law
in
Scotland
then,
and
how
how
far
we've
come,
and
also
how
far
we
have
to
go.
Sarah's
just
reminded
me
that
it's
three
Parliament's
from
now
when
the
20,
when,
when
those
targets
will
be
coming
to
fruition,
we
hope
and
and
expect,
and
which
of
us,
will
be
here
in
a
sense
that
doesn't
really
matter.
C
What
does
matter
is
that
our
children
and
our
children's
children
are
more
likely
to
be
able
to
have
a
real
future
and
a
real
quality
of
life
and
that
children
across
the
world
are
less
likely
to
be
climate
migrants
and
also
it's
possible.
We
hope
that
they'll
be
able
to
stay
where
they
are
and
have
a
good
quality
of
life
as
well,
wherever
they
are.
So,
let's
be
sure
that
some
we
reach
these
targets
in
an
equitable
way
and
I
I
move.
Or
do
I
press
the
amendment?
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
the
question
is
that
amendment
17
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
amendment
18
in
the
name
of
Mark
Russell,
already
debated,
mark
Moskal
to
move
or
not
moved?
That
is
moved.
The
question
is
the
amendment
18
be
agreed
to
are,
we
all
agreed
were
not
agreed,
we're
going
to
move
the
division
now.
This
is
the
first
division
of
the
afternoon,
so
I'm
going
to
suspend
the
Parliament
for
five
minutes,
but
I
summon
members
to
the
chamber
from
its
suspended
for
five
minutes.
A
A
A
C
C
Sorry
I'm
feeling
overwhelmed
already.
Okay
on
we
go.
These
amendments
are
designed
to
see
Scotland
stand
up
for
climate
justice
that
ministers
act
with
respect
to
Scotland's
historic
high
emissions
and
support
the
global
South
in
its
own
climate
action.
Members
will
recall:
I
had
amendments
that
stayed
which
covered
these
issues.
Am
I
thanks
to
the
government
for
dialogue
over
the
summer.
We
must
play
our
part
and
do
no
further
harm.
C
This
amendment
is
so
significant
and
it's
addition
to
the
bill
cannot
be
underestimated.
Climate
change
is
inextricably
linked
with
human
rights
and
exacerbates
inequality
by
disproportionately
affecting
already
marginalized
people
in
the
global
south,
especially
the
lives,
health,
housing,
sanitation,
food
and
water
are
all
put
on
the
line
by
developing
countries.
Dragging
their
feet
are
making
decisions
which
shoot
ourselves.
C
Amendment
10
adds
the
climate
justice
principle
and
means
that
ministers
must
have
regard
to
this
principle
when
preparing
climate
change
plans.
This
is
welcome
and
I
urge
all
just
today
and
also
to
support
amendment
19,
which
adds
reference
to
the
principle
to
the
target
setting
criteria.
This
is
much
more
meaningful
way
to
deliver
climate
justice,
including
it
in
the
approach
to
overall
ambition
and
speed
of
tackling
climate
change,
rather
than
just
in
our
domestic
edition
emissions
reduction
plan.
C
Amendment
for
further
amends
the
definition
of
the
safer
and
safe
emissions
budget
for
Scotland
already
in
the
bill
to
include
reference
to
the
United
Nations
Framework
Convention
on
Climate
Change
article
3.
This
article
includes
extremely
worthy
principles,
including
equity,
common
but
differentiated
responsibilities,
special
circumstances
of
developing
country
parties
and
the
precautionary
principle,
sustainable
development
and
support
for
sustainable
economic
growth.
C
My
Amendment
20,
however,
goes
somewhat
further
than
amendment
4
and
I
hope
there
will
be
support
for
it
today
across
the
chamber
in
that
it
makes
explicit
the
reference
to
the
principles
of
equity
and
common
but
differentiated
responsibilities.
These
are
the
essence
of
ensuring
the
fair
part
of
the
fair
and
safe
budget.
I
understand
the
cabinet
secretary
has
concerns
regarding
competing
hierarchies,
but
without
amendment
20,
these
vital
aspects
are
absent
from
the
face
of
the
bill
and
only
exists
in
a
reference.
C
Amendment
6
is
also
a
result
of
dialogue
with
the
cabinet
secretary
following
stage
2,
and
it
adds
supporting
actions
in
developing
countries
to
tackle
climate
change
to
the
scope
of
the
climate
change
plans
themselves.
It
specifically
requires
ministers
to
set
out
how
they
will
do
so
by
sharing
the
expertise
and
technology.
This
is
further
in
line
with
Scotland's
delivery
of
climate
justice,
which
we
have
a
strong
record
on
led
by
the
Scottish
Government
and
supporting
these
those
least
equipped
to
deal
with
the
crisis
not
of
their
own
making.
C
Finally,
in
this
group,
I
have
a
number
of
amendments
relating
to
sustainable
development
goals.
Amendment
3
adds
sustainable
development
considerations,
including
the
UN
sustainable
development
goals
to
the
target
setting
criteria,
while
amendment
12
requires
the
climate
change
plans
be
set
out
must
set
out
how
they're
expected
to
contribute
to
achieving
sustainable
development
goals,
and
amendment
14
adds
reference
to
these
goals
to
the
general
duty
in
relation
to
sustainable
development.
C
In
section
92,
going
back
to
the
2009
Act
I
have
further
amendments
12a
and
14a,
both
of
which
add
in
the
stipulation
that
consideration
should
be
taken
to
ensure
that
Scotland
Scotland's
actions
do
not
negatively
impact
on
the
ability
of
other
countries
to
achieve
sustainable
development.
These
are
a
much
stronger,
Duty
and
properly
account
for
the
do
no
harm
principle,
which
in
reality
is
do
no
more
harm.
Amendment
9
and
11
minor
consequentials
and
amendment
16
provides
a
definition
of
the
UN
sustainable
development
goals.
C
I
will
also
support
Angus
MacDonald's
amendment
1,
making
important
reference
to
the
1.5
degree
target,
which
we
all
have
to
stay
under
if
we
are
going
to
have
a
safe
and
prosperous
world
for
all
in
the
future.
I
urge
members
to
pass
all
these
amendments
in
this
group
and
show
the
world
that
Scotland
is
a
member
of
the
global
community
and
is
taking
a
moral
approach
approach
for
all
across
the
world
to
the
climate
emergency.
Thank
you
thank.
A
H
You
this
amendment
is
similar
to
amendment
in
87,
which
are
lodged
at
stage
two
and
can
I
thank
the
government
for
its
assistance
in
refining
the
amendment.
It
ensures
that
regular
independent
expert
advice
will
be
sought
and
published
on
how
Scotland's
targets
relate
to
global
efforts
to
limit
warming
to
1.5
degrees
centigrade.
So,
needless
to
say,
I'm
pleased
that
both
my
eclair
committee
and
the
Scottish
Government
have
recognized
the
importance
of
the
UN
Intergovernmental
Panel
on
Climate
Change
report
on
warming
of
1.5
degrees.
H
It's
therefore
incredibly
important
that
the
targets
continue
to
be
kept
under
a
regular
review
in
light
of
further
developments
in
the
science
and
the
progress
of
efforts
in
other
countries.
The
bill
ensures
that
updated
advice
from
the
Committee
on
climate
change
will
be
sought
at
least
every
five
years.
H
These
requests
for
advice
will
include
the
CCC's
views
on
the
appropriate
level
for
the
fair
and
safe
emissions
budget
for
Scotland,
which
is
defined
in
relation
to
the
internationally
agreed
global
temperature
aim
set
out
in
the
Paris
agreement,
and
that
in
reference
is
well
below
two
degrees
centigrade,
as
well
as
1.5
to
be
centigrade,
so,
in
effect,
this
amendment
provides
a
way
to
ensure
that
expert
advice
on
how
Scotland's
targets
relate
to
the
particular
one
point.
Five
degree
centigrade
aspect
of
the
Paris
School
in
particular
will
continue
to
be
sought
and
made
available.
D
Thank
You
presiding
officer
I'd
like
to
thank
Claudia,
be
mission,
Angus
MacDonald.
In
moving
these
amendments,
the
bill
is
a
response
to
the
Paris
agreement
and
the
spirit
and
substance
of
Paris
must
be
delivered
into
the
heart
of
this
bill.
Our
Industrial
Revolution
created
a
huge
climate
debt.
That's
been
passed
on
to
communities
around
the
world,
communities
who
barely
even
begun
their
own
development
journey.
We
have
to
all
our
countries
in
developing
world
the
room
to
breathe
in
this
climate
emergency.
D
Our
target
setting
must
be
equitable
and
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
the
climate,
injustice
and
suffering
that
is
already
happening
in
a
world
with
just
one
degree
of
warming,
let
alone
what
may
come
in
the
decades
ahead.
Our
role
must
also
be
to
smooth
a
path
to
sustainable
development
for
all
countries
and
not
to
put
barriers
in
their
way
through
our
own
actions
at
home.
So
for
those
reasons
we
strongly
back
all
the
amendments
in
this
group.
Thank.
I
You
presiding
officer
I
do
want
to
support
all
these
amendments
in
this
group
because
it
is
about
being
cross-cutting
and
it
is
about
global
action.
The
key
issue
about
the
UN
sustainable
development
goals
is
there
is
no
one
policy
lever.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
climate
action
cuts
right
across
all
of
those
issues
across
the
world,
whether
it's
housing,
transport,
energy
economy,
biodiversity,
flooding
or
equalities.
I
All
the
SDGs
need
to
be
acted
on
and
we
need
to
have
at
the
forefront
the
concept,
the
global
justice,
so
that
when
we
work
through
United,
Nations
and
support
for
the
global
south,
we
acknowledge
they
are
already
facing
huge
poverty
and
inequalities
and
action
has
got
to
be
factored
into
all
of
our
trade
aid
and
business
policies.
I
particularly
want
to
thank
CR
for
the
work
they've
done
and
promoting
these
amendments
this
afternoon,
but
also
for
the
work
of
so
many
of
our
charities
for
the
work
that
they
do
at
the
moment.
I
Supporting
countries
and
supporting
people
who
are
already
experiencing
what
climate
change
will
be
like
across
the
globe
groups
like
Oxfam.
Do
you
fund
the
Christian
League?
Their
work
is
essential.
As
we
see
sea
level
rises,
we
will
see
people
being
shifted
from
their
countries,
we're
already
seeing
that
impact
in
places
like
Bangladesh,
and
we
already
see
people
who
are
climate
refugees.
I
So,
let's
all
support
these
amendment,
I
hope,
colleagues
and
every
party
will
support
these
amendments
because
they're
practical
but
they're
also
ethical
they're
about
what
we
need
to
do.
If
we
say
that
we
are
one
of
the
most
radical
countries
in
the
world,
tackling
our
climate
emergency,
we
have
got
to
follow
through
in
all
of
our
policy
delivery
and
all
of
our
government's
actions.
So
I
support
these
amendments
and
hope.
Colleagues,
for
this
afternoon,
Thank
You
presiding
officer.
E
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
we
support
the
principles
of
international
environmental
law
and
indeed
the
intention
behind
much
of
these
amendments
not
fully
convinced
that
the
codification
of
international
environmental
law
into
this
bill
will
is
necessary
or
required.
But
nonetheless
we
are
sympathetic
to
the
much
of
the
amendments
in
this
group.
B
I'm
happy
to
support
amendment
one
from
Angus
MacDonald,
which
represents
a
sensible
way
to
further
reflect
the
importance
of
limiting
global
warming
to
1.5
degrees
in
the
bill.
The
Scottish
Government
has
accepted
the
vital
message
of
the
IPCC
special
report
on
1.5
degrees
and
is
committed
to
contributing
to
global
efforts
to
reach
this.
We
must,
however,
be
realistic
as
to
what
any
one
small
country
can
do
to
affect
global
emissions
levels.
The
statutory
framework
around
targets
needs
to
reflect
this
reality,
as
well
as
Scotland's
leadership.
B
At
stage
two,
we
amended
the
bill
to
explicitly
link
the
definition
of
Scotland's,
fair
and
safe
emissions
budget
to
the
Paris
agreement,
global
temperature
goal,
which
is
to
limit
warming
to
well
below
two
degrees
and
pursue
further
efforts
to
1.5
degrees.
Angus
McDonald's
amendment
provides
a
useful
and
complimentary
addition
to
the
target
framework
by
requiring
ministers
to
regularly
ask
the
CCC
for
additional
advice
on
how
Scotland's
targets
will
contribute
to
global
efforts
to
the
1.5
degrees
aspect
of
the
Paris
goal.
B
In
particular,
I'll
now
turn
to
the
suite
of
amendments
from
Claudia
Beamish,
with
whom
there
was
constructive
engagement
over
the
summer.
I
was,
however,
it's
a
little
disappointed
to
see
further
amendments
then
lodged
which
undermined
some
of
the
areas
in
which
I
had
thought
we'd
established
consensus
I
am
sympathetic
to
the
underlying
purpose
of
this
grouping.
Climate
change
is
a
global
challenge
and
it
is
right
that
this
is
clearly
reflected
in
our
domestic
legislation,
including
through
recognizing
the
interactions
between
actions
to
reduce
emissions
and
sustainable
development.
B
Scotland
is
a
responsible,
global
citizen
and
we
recognize
our
moral
obligation
to
contribute
to
the
challenge
of
climate
change
and
to
influence
others
to
do
the
same.
I
am
content
to
support
Claudia
barrages
amendments
where
these
will
work
to
reflect
these
considerations
in
the
target
framework
of
this
act
in
a
workable
and
appropriate
way.
The
Scottish
Government's
national
performance
framework
is
Scotland's
way
to
localize
and
implement
the
UN
sustainable
development
goals.
The
framework
has
a
focus
on
tackling
inequalities
so
that
no
one
in
Scotland
is
left
behind
as
we
work
together
to
achieve
the
goals.
B
Amendments
3,
11,
12,
14
and
16
from
Claudia
Beamish
provide
a
strong
package
to
reflect
the
importance
of
this
policy
coherence
around
sustainable
development
at
the
heart
of
our
climate
change
legislation.
Amendment
6
ensures
that
climate
change
plans
will
include
a
section
on
action
to
support
developing
countries
in
tackling
climate
change,
as
well
as
the
actions
to
reduce
emissions.
B
So
these
amendments
will
significantly
strengthen
the
role
of
sustainable
development
and
climate
change,
climate
justice
in
Scotland's
climate
change
legislation.
I
cannot,
however,
support
amendments.
2019,
12a
or
14a,
and
I
must
urge
members
to
reject
these
amendment.
20
seeks
to
further
amend
the
definition
of
the
fair
and
safe
emissions
budget
to
highlight
specific
and
selective
wording
from
the
UNFCCC
principles.
B
This
approach
does
risk
creating
presentational
and
legal
hierarchies
by
suggesting
that
these
elements
of
the
principles
are
more
important
than
others.
It
also
fails
to
recognize
all
aspects
of
article
3.1
of
the
UNFCCC,
where
these
principles
are
outlined.
That
article
sets
out
that
developed
countries
should
lead
action
to
tackle
climate
change.
Precisely
what
Scotland
is
doing,
I
would
urge
members
to
support
amendment
4
from
Cordia
Beamish,
as
I've
already
indicated,
which
does
refer
to
the
UNFCCC
principles
in
the
round
and
to
reject
amendment
20.
B
These
two
amendments
cannot
both
be
sensibly
agreed
to
amendment
19
is,
in
my
view,
unnecessary
and
potentially
counterproductive.
It
seeks
to
add
the
climate
justice
principle
to
the
target
setting
criteria,
whilst
I'm
supportive
of
the
principle
itself
I
consider
that
this
ground
is
sufficiently
well
covered
by
the
existing
set
of
criteria
and
adding
further
principles
to
this
would
at
best
add
no
value
and
could
at
worst
cause
confusion.
B
The
statutory
target
setting
criteria
already
include
economic
circumstances,
including
a
particular
requirement
to
consider
jobs
and
employment
opportunities,
social
circumstances,
in
particular
the
likely
impact
on
those
living
in
poorer
or
more
deprived
communities
and
the
likely
impact
of
those
living
in
remote,
rural
and
island
communities.
If
amendment
4
is
agreed,
the
UNFCCC
principals
will
also
be
referred
to
within
the
criteria
through
this
fair
and
safe
emissions.
Budget
I
would
also
invite
members
to
consider
that
the
statutory
just
transition
principles
which
we
will
discuss
further
in
a
later
grouping
do
not
form
part
of
the
criteria.
B
They
would
seem
inconsistent
to
highlight
one
of
our
climate
change
plan
principles
over
these
other
ones.
In
the
way
it
proposed
amendments
12,
a
and
14
a
which
seek
to
directly
amend
Claudia
B
muscies
own
amendments
are
entirely
impractical.
I
cannot
support
proposals
that
would
require
in
law,
assessments
to
be
made
of
the
impact
of
Scottish
policies
on
the
ability
of
other
countries
to
achieve
sustainable
development
outcomes.
It
is
entirely
unclear
from
these
amendments
how
such
assessments
could
be
robustly
and
meaningfully
undertaken.
B
It
is,
for
example,
unclear
whether
this
Duty
should
apply
to
all
other
countries
and,
if
not,
which
ones
amendment
6
requires
ministers
to
set
out
the
positive
actions
they
are
taking
to
support
developing
countries
in
tackling
climate
change,
and
we
think
that
this
is
the
right
way
forward
to
be
clear.
I
could
not
support
amendment
12
or
14,
which
are
otherwise
positive
measures
if
amendments
12a
and
14
a
were
to
be
agreed.
A
C
C
We
decided
that
we
wanted
to
go
further,
and
that
is
something
that
the
problem
that
will
have
to
decide
if
they
they
want
to
join
in
in
supporting
the
global
South
in
what
we
see
is
the
most
robust
way
possible
and
the
sustainable
development
goals,
as
Sarah
Boyk
has
highlighted,
have
no
one
policy
lever
and
climate
justice
is
something
that
encompasses
all
our
actions
in
policy
and
and
our
policy
should
be
judged
against
those
as
a
develop
as
a
developed
country.
I'm
puzzled.
C
By
what
Morris
golden
says
and
I
don't
understand
any
examples
he
hasn't
given
any
examples
of
how
what
we're
doing
here
would
affect.
What
we
do
would
would
affect
the
global
South
in
a
way
that
is
negative.
That
prevents
them
from
supporting
our
amendment.
So
I
don't
know
if
he
could
clarify
that
at
all,
but
if
he
will
I'm
happy
to
listen.
But
yes.
A
C
Don't
think
that
this
I
I
think
that
these
articles
are
so
sorry.
These
principles
are
so
important
that
we
should
be
highlighting
them
with
on
the
face
of
the
bill
and
in
terms
of
the
target
setting
I,
think
it's
fundamentally
and
that
we
recognized
the
issue
of
climate
justice
in
the
setting
of
every
target.
So
I
hope
members
will
support
that
and
all
the
all
the
other
amendments
which
I've
highlighted
in
the
group.
Thank
you
thank.
A
A
C
A
The
question
is
that
amendment
three
be
agreed
to
I
will
read,
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
a
Mehmet
20
called
the
village
to
move
that
is
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
20
be
agreed
to
our
well
agreed
or
not
agreed,
we'll
move
to
a
division,
members
new
constables
now,
member
20.
This
is
the
32nd
vote.
A
The
results
of
the
vote
on
amendment
number
20
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish
is
yes
34,
no
86
there
were
no
abstentions.
The
amendment
is
that
were
not
agreed.
Can
I
call
amendment
for,
in
the
name
of
Claudia,
be
mr.
Beamish
to
move?
Thank
you
very
much.
The
question
is
that
amendment
for
be
agreed
to
are:
we
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
amendment
one
a
name
of
Angus
McDonald,
Angus
McDonald,
to
move
a
firmly
pressed?
Thank
you
very
much.
The
question
is
that
I
meant
one
be
agreed
to
are
well
agreed.
D
Thanks
very
much
presiding
officer,
it
was
indeed
firmly
press
that
meant
I
could
hear
from
him.
Can
I
can
I
am
just
a
please
stand
to
move.
Then
amendment
21
on
the
establishment
of
a
climate
citizen's
assembling
can
I
welcome
the
cross
portfolio.
Discussions
have
been
taking
place
with
Patrick
Harvie
Michael
Russell.
It
was
on
a
Cunningham
and
myself
on
this
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
those
activists
from
outside
Parliament,
maybe
even
some
of
them.
D
Maybe
inside
Palmer
today,
I,
don't
know
who's
pushed
hard
for
such
an
assembly
to
be
set
up,
and
it
is
clear
that
we
are
going
to
face
unprecedented
societal
change
in
the
years
ahead
and
how
we
take
people
with
us
in
designing
and
preparing
for
hard
choices
will
be
absolutely
critical.
So
a
citizen's
assembly
is
essential
to
understand
the
issues,
set
the
agendas
and
test
the
solutions.
It
will
go
beyond
our
current
thinking
about
what
is
possible.
Now
the
Irish
citizens.
D
Assembly's
work
on
climate
should
be
a
strong
inspiration
for
our
own
by
feeding
its
work
to
ministers
and
Parliament.
It's
set
in
train
new
actions
for
Ireland's
climate
action
plan
and
it
was
able
to
consider
issues
such
as
tax
policy,
which,
were
you
know,
two
thorny
at
first
for
the
politicians
to
consider,
but
they
eventually
caught
up
on
that
one.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
establishment
of
Scotland's
first-ever
citizens,
assembly
and
I
hope
that
it
will
light
the
path
to
tackling
the
climate
emergency.
D
G
Guy
thank
Moscow
for
launching
amendment
21
and
setting
over
very
clearly
the
case
for
the
citizens
assembly.
It's
got
a
lot
of
Democrats
very
much
support,
but
I
would
add
that
this
is
precisely
the
sort
of
circumstance
in
which
the
use
of
citizens
assemblies
it's
just
a
fighting
where
they
can
make
a
real
contribution,
as
Marcus
Kowal
says,
in
identifying
ways
of
achieving
a
genuinely
shared
objective,
I
think
perhaps
in
contrast
other
instances
that
are
currently
being
proposed.
How
such
citizens
assemblies
would
interact
with
other
sources
of
advice,
evidence
and
expertise.
G
It's
an
obvious
question,
but
there
seems
nothing
in
what
Marcus
Kowal
is
proposing
would
preclude
that
happening
in
ways
that
would
inform
and
support
the
work
of
the
citizen
sembly
themselves,
as
well
as
ensuring
ministers
are
able
to
draw
on
the
advice
that
they
will
continue
to
need
and
when
they
need
it.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
cabinet
Secretary's
comments,
but
for
now
very
much
welcome
my
criticals
amendment.
Thank.
C
I
do
want
to
say,
though,
that
looking
back
to
Tuesday,
not
that
far
back
to
the
Supreme
Court
decision
and
how
Parliament
is
sovereign
I
do
feel
uncomfortable
about
the
view
of
some
people
who
have
been
approaching
us
in
relation
to
the
citizens
assembly
assembly
for
climate
change,
that
they
would
like
to
see
this
Parliament
being
bound
by
their
deliberations
and
that
I,
don't
believe
in
parliamentary
democracy
is
something
that
we
can
possibly
support.
We
can
be
inspired
by
it.
We
can
be
influenced
by
that.
C
B
You
presiding
officer,
the
Scottish
Government
supports
the
use
of
deliberative
democracy
in
Scotland,
where
a
problem
requires
a
longer-term
approach,
a
change
of
perspective
or
a
development.
In
the
way
we
as
a
country
discuss
an
issue
then
involving
the
people
of
Scotland
directly
in
the
debate
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
We
won't
solve
the
most
challenging
issues
of
the
day
if
we
don't
listen
to
each
other.
B
If
we
don't
hear
and
understand
what
the
experts
have
to
say
and
what
the
people
are
most
concerned
about,
or
if
we
don't,
as
a
country,
commit
ourselves
to
a
more
respectful,
balanced
and
informed
dialogue.
The
cabinet
secretary
for
government,
business
and
constitutional
relations
set
out
the
case
for
citizens
assemblies
generally
in
the
chamber
in
a
recent
debate,
and
there
was
support
from
across
the
parties
for
assemblies
to
look
at
the
most
challenging
issues
of
our
day,
including
support
for
an
assembly
on
climate
change.
Climate
change
is
an
issue
well-suited
to
a
citizen's
assembly.
B
This
amendment
guarantees
that
it
requires
the
assembly
to
lay
its
report
before
Parliament
and
provide
a
copy
to
the
Scottish
Ministers
to
which
they
must
then
respond.
I,
therefore
support
this
amendment
look
forward
to
working
with
parties
across
the
Parliament
to
establish
Scotland
citizens
assembly
on
climate
change.
During
the
remainder
of
this
parliamentary
session,
Thank.
D
You
know
we're
seeing
deliberative
democracy
really
taking
off
in
Scotland
participatory
budgeting
in
the
Environment
Committee
we've
held
our
own
citizens
jury
on
the
future
of
agricultural
subsidies
as
well,
and
it's
genuinely
engaging
it
accesses
views
that
otherwise
we
wouldn't
hear
it
brings
in
new
voices
into
decision-making
and
thinking
which
I
think
is
hugely
important.
I
think
there
is
a
danger,
sometimes
when
these
initiatives
are
established,
that
expectations
run
incredibly
high.
I
think
the
expectations
of
this
assembly
are
very
clear.
This
isn't
a
decision-making
body.
D
This
is
a
body
that
will
produce
reports
and
advice
and
thinking
which
then
government
and
the
Committees
of
this
Parliament
can
then
consider
I,
don't
believe
it
should
have
responsibility
to
take
decisions.
That
rightly
lies
with
us
in
this
Parliament,
but
we
should
actively
engage
with
the
results
and
they
engage
and
the
work
of
the
other
citizens
assembly
and
consider
that
in
our
own
business,
in
in
Parliament.
A
Thank
You
mr.
mr.
Russell,
the
question
is:
is
that
amendment
21
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
amendment
5
in
the
name
of
the
cabinet
secretary,
already
defeated
Kerala
secretary
to
move?
Thank
you.
The
question
is
the
moment.
Five
we
agree
to.
Are
we
agreed?
We
are
agreed.
D
I
think
it
was
last
year
that
the
National
Grid
noticed
a
sudden
and
huge
drop
in
electricity
consumption
in
Dundee,
and
it
actually
took
them
a
while
to
work
out
that
it
was
due
to
9
Wells
Hospital
of
something
happening
at
the
hospital.
A
few
phone
calls
later
confirmed
that
the
hospital
was
okay.
There
was
no
problem
here,
it's
just
that
they'd
had
their
new
energy
system
switched
over
and
it
immediately
started
to
make
a
massive
impact
on
the
grid.
D
So
the
decisions
that
public
bodies
make
especially
around
their
infrastructure
are
some
very
significant
in
terms
of
how
we
tackle
climate
change,
they
can
either
lock
in
emissions
for
decades
or
they
can
make
big
emission
savings,
which
can
also
deliver
equally
big
financial
savings.
Tackling
the
climate
mergency
means
getting
every
institution's
actions
and
spending
going
in
the
right
direction.
We
need
to
understand
how
public
bodies
are
contributing
to
the
solution
on
both
the
capital
and
revenue
signs
of
their
budgets.
I
We
definitely
want
to
support
this
amendment,
because
every
single
one
of
our
public
bodies
shoot
as
a
matter
of
course,
be
mainstreaming,
action
and
climate
change,
and
that
should
be
something
that
is
agreed
before
their
budgets
are
agreed.
It's
about
leadership,
it's
about
culture,
and
it's
also
about
thinking
proactively
about
public
procurement,
so
that
every
investment
and
expenditure
decision
actually
thinks
through
the
impact
of
climate
change,
whether
it's
about
resilience
to
climate
change
or
whether
it's
about
lowering
our
carbon
emissions.
I
B
Sorry
officer,
whilst
I
have
sympathy
for
the
motivation
for
this
amendment.
I
cannot
support
it.
This
is
because
a
better
way
forward
is
not
only
available
but
already
in
train.
The
Scottish
Government
is
currently
consulting
on
the
role
of
public
sector
bodies
in
tackling
climate
change.
This
includes
a
specific
question
in
relation
to
whether
such
bodies
should
report
annually
on
how
they
use
their
resources
to
contribute
to
reducing
emissions.
Once
the
consultation
is
complete,
the
Scottish
Government
will
bring
forward
secondary
legislation
to
update
the
statutory
reporting
duties
under
the
2009
Act.
B
There
are
several
reasons
why
this,
rather
than
the
present
amendment,
is
the
right
way
to
progress
the
entirely
legitimate
questions
of
how
the
public
sector
are
supporting
emissions
reductions.
Firstly,
the
review
covers
the
full
range
of
public
sector
bodies
in
Scotland.
In
contrast,
the
first
amendment
will
exclude
many
significant
players
by
Framing
itself
in
terms
of
only
those
bodies
for
which
ministers
must
approve
proposals
for
the
use
of
resources.
B
Secondly,
the
proposed
amendment
would
not
capture
any
UK
public
bodies
operating
in
Scotland
such
as
HMRC
and
DWP,
and
just
yesterday,
I
wrote
to
the
UK
government
asking
them
to
decarbonize
their
estates
and
operations
in
Scotland
in
time
to
allow
our
net
zero
date
of
2045
to
be
met
rather
than
their
target
date
of
2050.
The.
I
B
Of
the
member
listens
to
what
I've
actually
said,
I've
written
to
the
cabinet
said
to
the
Secretary
of
State
in
in
Westminster,
asking
them
to
agree
to
what
we
are
going
to
discuss
in
terms
of
public
sector
bodies.
Of
course,
we
can't
legislate
for
their
public
sector
bodies,
but
their
emissions
will
add
to
our
mission
stats,
so
I'm
asking
them
to
come
on
board
with
this.
B
The
point
I'm
making
is
that
there's
a
group
of
public
sector
bodies
which
don't
submit
their
budgets
to
us,
but
the
proposed
amendment
wouldn't
capture
all
public
bodies,
even
those
within
the
devolved
arena.
It
would
exclude
those
such
as
Scottish
local
authorities,
health
boards
and
Crown
Estate
Scotland,
where
budgets
are
their
own
to
set.
In
contrast,
all
of
these
bodies
are
captured
by
the
public
sector,
reporting
duty
so
pursuing
that
route
forward
would
be
substantially
more
effective.
So,
for
these
reasons,
I
urge
members
to
reject
this
amendment.
D
And
I
feel
I've
been
listening
to
this
debate.
For
some
time
now,
I
mean
you
know,
terrible
Act
talks
about
mainstreaming
and
public
procurement.
You
know
we
talked
about
this
in
the
second
session,
and
yet
we
still
are
not
seeing
significant
action
from
government
to
actually
crack
this.
You
know
the
government
here
has
a
climate
change
bill.
This
was
the
opportunity
to
put
in
provisions
around
bodies
around
a
whole
raft
of
other
areas
that
are
needed
to
tackle
the
climate
emergency,
to
actually
ensure
that
every
single
institution
in
this
country
is
working
together.
D
So
you
know
it's
disappointing
to
see
opposition
here
today.
You
know
we
had
a
discussion
over
the
summer
around
this
I
respect
the
fact
that
there
are
consultations
ongoing,
but
this
is
the
moment
this
is
the
moment
to
actually
put
something
into
legislation.
It
might
not
capture
absolutely
everything,
but
it
moves
things
forward
significantly.
D
We
had
evidence
coming
to
committee,
in
particular
for
the
n8
from
the
NHS,
about
the
importance
of
this,
about
the
importance
of
reducing
energy,
the
importance
of
tackling
climate
change
and
also
improving
the
financial
bottom
line
and
many
of
our
public
institutions.
You
know
we
should
be
driving
this
right
now,
just
because
there
isn't.
This
amendment
isn't
complete
in
its
scope,
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
be
passing
it
now
and
then
consulting
on
other
areas
which
are
not
included
in
this
amendment.
To
then
improve
action
over
time.
A
A
E
I
think
that
will
allow
more
time
for
research,
modeling
and
consultation
and
therefore
is
entirely
more
appropriate
because
night
Rijn
balance
sheets
are
an
established
technique
for
understanding
nature
and
flaws
across
all
sectors
of
the
economy.
A
night
Rijn
balance
sheet
would
allow
us
to
calculate
nitrogen
use
efficiency
across
Scotland,
and
it
would
allow
a
baseline
figure
for
nitrogen
use
efficiency
and
show
areas
where
nitrogen
should
be
used
more
efficiently.
E
This
would
help
us
develop
fear,
evidence-based
policies
to
identify
and
tackle
nitrogen
lost
across
the
whole
of
the
economy
and
also
ensure
the
nitrogen
efficiency
is
monitored
and
reported
on
to
ensure
that
policy
always
reflects
practice.
The
Scottish
Government
committed
to
developing
a
national
nature
and
balance
sheet
in
this
year's
program.
For
government
and
I
would
hope
that
we
have
support
not
just
from
the
SNP
but
across
the
chamber
on
these
amendments.
E
F
Much
welcome
this
amendment
and,
in
particular,
the
change
to
18
months.
It's
worth
saying
that
John
Scott
and
myself
in
committee
have
both
been
concerned
about
the
position
in
relation
to
the
way
the
International
inventory
of
greenhouse
gasses
works
in
relation
to
agriculture,
because
the
inventory
is
very
unfair
in
reflecting
the
true
cost
and
benefit
of
Agriculture,
because
it
doesn't
attribute
to
agriculture
things
like
forestry.
It
doesn't
attribute
to
agriculture.
Things
like
renewable
energy.
F
I
think
this
plays
its
own
part
in
giving
us
a
better
understanding
of
the
positive
impact
that
agriculture
and
agri-food
Street
for
that
matter
can
have
on
this
particular
agenda
and
with
this
chamber
there
has
been
too
much
lazy
commentary.
Bluntly,
not
looking
at
the
full
facts
related
to
agriculture,
so
I
think
this
proposal
from
Morris
golden
is
one
that
I'm
happy
to
support
on
that
basis
and
for
many
other
reasons
as
well
presiding
officer,
Thank,.
D
This
amendment,
the
case
where
nitrogen
budget
force
cotton
has
been
building
for
several
years
now,
and
this
approach
will
cut
pollution,
waste
and
energy
usage,
while
saving
money,
especially
for
farmers.
Our
fields
are
currently
drenched
with
a
staggering
excess
of
eighty
seven
kilos
of
nitrogen
per
hectare.
Now
that
this
is
not
only
an
expensive
waste
of
inputs,
the
subsequent
cost
of
pollution
cleanups
in
water
and
air
is
then,
of
course,
borne
by
taxpayers.
The
starting
point
in
this
budget
I
hope
will
be
compulsory
soil
testing.
C
You
presiding
officer
I
want
to
speak
in
support
very
briefly
of
Morris
golden
some
important
amendment
and
identify
myself
with
the
remarks
of
other
members
who
have
highlighted
these
issues,
because
it
is
a
challenge
for
farmers
when
a
lot
of
what
they
do,
isn't
recognized
and
I
think
that
the
nitrogen
balance
sheet
will
help.
Of
course
it
relates
to
other
sectors
as
well,
but
we've
grappled
with
nitrogen
in
in
committee
in
this
Parliament
and
in
the
last
Parliament,
for
you
know
quite
a
time
and
I
think
that
it's
very
timely.
C
G
Very
much
Priscilla
colors
on
rise
to
speak
in
support
of
the
amendment
I
think
the
manuscript
amendment
is
very
welcome
in
terms
of
buying
a
little
bit
for
the
time.
There
seem
to
be
some
concerns
around
the
flexibility
over
the
longer
term,
but
I,
don't
think
any
of
those
that
are
insurmountable.
Nothingís
Stewart,
Stephenson
absolutely
rightly
pointed
out
I
think
providing
that
greater
balance
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
agricultural
playing
in
meeting
our
and
helping
us
meet
our
climate
change
champion.
Challenges
going
forward
is
in
part
addressed
through
this
amendment.
B
Indicated
by
Morris
golden
the
Scottish
government
has
already
committed
in
the
programme
for
government
to
preparing
a
nationwide
nitrogen
balance
sheet.
We
recognise
the
value
that
such
information
can
have
and
better
understanding,
Scotland's
nitrogen
cycle
and
allowing
us
to
take
a
systemic
approach
to
improving
nitrogen
use,
efficiency
and
reducing
nitrogen
waste
throughout
the
entire
economy.
The
first
stage
of
the
work
to
create
a
balance
sheet
is
necessarily
research
to
explore
the
available
evidence,
and
this
will
take
some
time
if
it
is
to
be
done
well.
The
amendment
as
originally
lodged
did
pose
some
technical
difficulties.
B
It
would
have
meant
that
the
government
had
substantially
less
time
to
undertake
the
necessary
initial
research,
and
so
I
am
very
grateful.
Tomorrow's
Goldman
for
being
willing
to
listen
to
these
concerns
and
bring
forward
a
manuscript
amendment
to
make
the
timing
requirement
more
realistic.
On
this
basis,
I
have
no
reservations
in
supporting
the
amendment
hi.
A
You
so
the
question
is
that
amendment
23
e
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed
and
the
question
is
the
amendment
23
as
amended
be
agreed
to?
Are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed
I
turn
now
to
group
7
emissions
attributable
attributable
to
consumption
of
goods
and
services,
reports
and
proposals
and
policies
can
I
call
amendment
24
in
the
name
of
Mark
Russell,
grouped
with
amendment
34
mark
Russell,
to
move
amendment
24
and
to
speak
to
both
amendments
thanks.
D
It
would
be
blinkered
to
solely
focus
on
cutting
emissions
at
home.
Only
then
to
increase
emissions
through
the
consumption
of
products
that
are
made
abroad.
The
picture
is,
unfortunately
worsening.
We
live
in
a
community
consumer
society,
consumption
emissions
are
not
falling
fast
enough
and
those
that
are
embedded
in
imported
goods
and
services
are
rising.
Getting
a
grip
on
this
picture
means
reporting,
consumption
emissions
by
sector
and
then
addressing
how
these
can
then
be
cut
through
the
climate
change
plan.
B
Content
to
support
both
of
these
amendments
and
I'm
grateful
to
Mike
Roscoe
for
working
with
the
government
on
these
over
the
summer,
consumption-based
emissions
associated
with
imported
goods
and
services,
commonly
referred
to
as
our
carbon
footprint
from
an
important
part
of
the
wider
climate
change
picture.
Scotland
is
already
a
leader
in
this
regard,
being
one
of
the
very
few
countries
to
publish
regular
official
statistics
on
its
carbon
footprint,
and
one
of
the
national
indicators
is
also
based
on
this
metric.
B
It
is
appropriate
that
the
bill
now
strengthens
these
reporting
duties
through
amendment
24,
and
also
that
it
ensures
that
measures
to
reduce
these
are
included
in
a
scope
of
climate
change
plans
through
amendment
34.
We
must
also
remember
the
international
practice,
including
under
the
Paris
agreement,
is
to
report
emissions
on
a
territorial
basis
in
part,
because
this
avoids
risks
their
own
double,
counting,
reducing
terror,
Oriol
emissions.
Those
from
sources
located
here
in
scotland
does
need
to
remain
the
main
focus
of
our
target
framework
and
efforts.
A
More
Russell
does
not
restless
I
didn't
think
of
a
way
of
waiting
up
Nucky's
we'll
move
to
the
vote.
The
question
is
that
amendment
24
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed
turn
now
to
group
8
land-use
strategy
and
can
I
call
amendment
25
in
the
name
of
Cody
Beamish,
grouped
with
amendment
27
Claudia.
We
wish
to
move
amendment
25
and
to
speak
to
both
amendments.
Thank.
C
Presiding
officer,
my
two
amendments
in
this
group
are
designed
to
better
align
our
land
use
strategy
with
climate
change,
action
and
I'm
pleased
that
they
have
the
support
of
a
number
of
NGOs,
including
WWF,
Scotland,
Scottish,
lanten
estates,
National,
Farmers,
Union,
Scotland
and
nourish
recognizing.
The
key
role
that
land-use
plays
in
climate
mitigation
and
adaptation
was
a
key
part
of
the
2009
act.
We
were
still
seeing
little
progress
on
policy
delivery,
no
reporting
since
2016
and
in
our
view,
under
resourcing
this
government
has
not
taken
the
land-use
principles
and
underpinning
the
the
planning
seriously
enough.
C
It
was
welcomed
in
the
program
of
government.
However,
for
this
year
there
was
a
commitment
to
developing
proposals
for
implementing
land
used
partnerships
and
frameworks,
establishing
partnerships
by
2021
and
tasking
partnerships
to
create
frameworks
by
2023.
These
amendments
seek
to
support
these
commitments
and
I
would
be
confused
if
the
Scottish
government
today
does
not
support
our
amendment.
C
Regional
land-use
partnerships
and
frameworks
are
key
for
identifying
land-use
priorities
in
partnership
with
landowners
and
communities
to
bring
multiple
co2
benefits,
with
targeted
public
spending
to
support
delivery.
An
appropriate
land-use
strategy
would
support
climate
action
and
a
transition
to
a
carbon
positive
or
a
landscape,
as
well
as
developing
its
important
role
in
carbon
sequestration,
as
highlighted
by
the
UK
Committee
on
climate
change.
Thank
you
thank.
B
Programme
for
government
commits
us
to
establishing
regional
land-use
partnerships
and
frameworks
by
2023.
The
present
amendments
are
broadly
aligned
with
those
commitments
and
I'm
content
to
accept
them.
The
development
of
regional
land-use
partnerships
and
frameworks
is
likely
to
be
complicated,
and
that
is
reflected
in
the
phased
approach
set
out
in
the
programme
for
government.
It
is
important
that
we
maintain
that
phased
approach
to
ensure
that
we
get
this
right
so
that
regional
partnerships
and
frameworks
are
as
effective
as
possible
in
contributing
to
tackling
climate
change.
B
I'm
content
that
amendment
27
provides
a
reasonable
way
to
ensure
that
progress
on
delivering
these
commitments
is
reflected
in
future
climate
change
plans
on
amendment
25
in
relation
to
annual
reporting
on
progress
to
the
land
use
strategy.
I
do
have
some
concerns
that
such
reporting
may
prove
to
be
duplicated
of
what
will
be
set
out
in
any
case,
in
the
monitoring
reports
on
the
climate
change
plan.
Nonetheless,
I
can
recognize
the
desire
for
regular
reporting
on
the
land
use
strategy
in
its
own
right
and
I'm
prepared
to
support
the
amendment
on
that
basis.
Thank.
C
Thank
You
presiding
officer-
this
has
been
a
long
time
in
the
coming
I'm
delighted
that
the
cabinet
secretary
is
supporting
these
amendments
and
I
hope
that
across
the
chamber
that
this
will
be
the
case
as
well,
because
as
we
go
forward
with
our
land
use
strategies
now,
land
use
regional
partnerships.
It
is
vital
that
climate
change
is
at
the
heart
of
these
and
to
have
it
on
the
face
of
the
bill
is
really
significant.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
so
I
call,
so
the
question
is
that
about
25
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed
turn
to
group
name,
timing
off.
First
climate
change
plan
and
monitoring
reports
can
I
call
a
member
in
226
in
the
name
of
our
Kruskal
group,
to
the
moment,
13
Margaux
sort
of
this
amendment
and
to
speak
to
both
amendments
in
the
group.
I
think.
D
He
was
only
officer,
yes,
I'm
pleased
to
move
this
amendment.
The
last
few
months
of
this
climate
emergency
has
seen
everybody,
including
the
Greens,
reassess
whether
our
proposals
are
fit
for
delivering
an
unprecedented
rate
of
change,
and
the
amendments
that
have
already
been
passed
today
lay
down
fresh
challenges.
The
revised
climate
plan
is
needed,
a
tweak
here
and
there
to
revise
plan
won't
cut
it.
This
has
to
be
a
priority
for
government
is
a
refresh
plan
with
fresh
ambition
in
the
next
six
months.
J
B
I
will
first
respond
if
I
made
to
mark
Rosco's
amendment
26,
which
I
was
very
disappointed
to
see
lodged
again
after
the
discussions
in
committee
at
stage
two,
the
first
minister
has
made
a
very
clear
commitment
in
line
with
what
the
environment,
climate
change,
Land,
Reform
Committee
called
for
in
its
stage
to
report
to
update
the
current
climate
change
plan
within
six
months
of
Royal
Assent.
Amendment
26
would
instead
require
an
entire
new
climate
change
plan
process
to
be
fully
completed
within
six
months.
B
This
is
a
significantly
different
proposition
to
the
committee's
recommendation
and
is
frankly
not
just
unreasonable,
but
flat-out
impossible.
There
are
extensive
statutory
requirements
governing
a
full
planned
process.
A
draft
version
of
the
plan
will
need
to
be
laid
and
scrutinized
by
Parliament
within
the
proposed
six
month.
Window
amendments
agreed
at
stage
two
in
response
to
the
committee's
recommendations
will
mean
that
at
least
four
of
those
months
must
be
occupied
by
parliamentary
scrutiny.
B
This
would
leave
the
government
with
less
than
two
months
to
design,
prepare
and
consult
on
the
plan,
which
is
clearly
untenable,
particularly
given
the
additional
elements
to
the
process
that
were
amended
into
the
bill
at
stage
two.
For
example,
the
bill
requires
the
CCC's
views
to
be
sought
on
draft
plans.
Clearly,
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
needs
to
be
given
to
the
CCC
to
do
that,
and
the
government
would
want
to
consider
the
CCC's
advice
before
laying
the
plan
in
Parliament.
B
If
we
allow
a
month
for
that
process,
we
are
then
in
a
position
where
the
draft
plan
has
to
be
produced,
consulted
on
and
all
statutory
assessments
completed
in
just
one
month,
this
Parliament
agreed
to
the
Environment
Assessment
Act
in
2005.
That
act
requires
government
to
conduct
strategic
environmental
assessments
of
plans
and
programs
likely
to
have
significant
environmental
effects.
It
would
not
be
possible
to
meet
both
that
statutory
requirement
and
a
statutory
requirement
to
finalize
a
new
climate
change
plan,
including
parliamentary
scrutiny
of
four
months
within
a
six
month
period.
B
There
is
a
global
climate
emergency
and
what
is
needed
in
response
is
meaningful.
Swift
action,
the
current
climate
change
plan
was
published
just
over
18
months
ago,
following
a
process
of
parliamentary
scrutiny.
An
updated
plan
is
what
the
committee
called
for,
and
what
both
the
first
minister
and
myself
have
made
clear
commitments
to
delivering
delivering
an
update
within
six
months
would
be
so
challenging,
but
we
are
committed
to
doing
so.
Mark
Russell's
amendment
isn't
practicable
or
reasonable,
and
I
strongly
urge
members
to
reject
amendment
26.
B
In
contrast,
amendment
13
and
my
name
represents
a
pragmatic
adjustment
to
the
timing
of
future
climate
change
plan
monitoring
reports.
In
light
of
the
commitment
to
update
the
current
climate
change
plan
within
six
months,
the
bill
places
annual
reporting
on
a
statutory
footing,
as
recommended
by
the
committee.
The
timing
of
these
reports
has
now
been
moved
to
fall
before
summer
recess
each
year.
Our
commitment
to
updating
the
current
plan
within
six
months
of
Royal
Assent
means
that
this
can
be
expected
in
late
spring
next
year.
B
It
would
not
make
sense
for
there
to
be
a
requirement
to
lay
a
set
of
monitoring
reports
at
the
same
time
as
we
lay
the
updated
plan
and
to
avoid
that
scenario,
this
amendment
means
that
the
first
set
of
monitoring
reports
under
the
bill
arrangements
will
be
required
in
matron.
Twenty-One
this
does
not
mean
that
no
monitoring
of
the
current
climate
change
plan
will
occur
until
2021
building
from
the
first
plan.
Monitoring
report
in
October
2018
again
today
confirmed
that
we
will
publish
a
second
annual
report
later
this
autumn.
B
E
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
we
will
be
supporting
amendment
thirteen
today,
however,
I
appreciate
Mark
Rascals
intention
behind
the
amendment
for
a
new
climate
change
plan.
On
these
benches,
we
agree
that
there
should
be
a
new
climate
change
plan.
There
are,
there
is
a
requirement
for
us
to
set
out
and
chart
our
progress
towards
these
new
targets
that
we
have
agreed
today,
however,
I
think
the
timescales
associated
with
of
six
months
is
is
just
two
stretching
and,
while
I'm
sure,
as
opposition,
we
want
to
put
as
much
pressure
on
the
Scottish
government
as
we
possibly
can.
E
C
You
presiding
officer,
anything
new
that
should
come
forward
in
relation
to
the
climate
emergency
in
the
climate
change
plan
can
in
fact
be
put
into
an
updated
plan
with
the
agreement
of
the
with
committee
agreement
and
with
the
agreement
of
the
Parliament.
So
on
reflection
on
what
the
Cabinet
Secretary
has
said
today
on
on
Martin
Rascals
amendment
26,
we
will
actually
abstain
and
we
will
support
the
cabinet
Secretary's
amendment
13
if
I
have
understood
right
that
the
cabinet
secretary
is
saying
that
there
will
be
an
updated
plan
in
within
six
months.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
mean
I.
Welcome
the
clarification
for
the
cabinet
secretary
there
about
the
government's
plans
for
the
process.
I
mean
we
have
to
ensure
we
have
to
ensure
that
this
revision
to
the
climate
plan
is
meaningful
and
that
there
is
enough
time
and
enough
involvement
from
committees
to
actually
scrutinize.
D
What
comes
out
of
this
we're
making
big
changes
here
today
with
this
climate
bill,
there
will
be
big
implications
coming
out
of
that,
I
welcomed
the
support
from
opposition
parties
for
the
intention
of
this
amendment,
but
I
reflect
on
the
contribution
of
the
cabinet
secretary
and
the
reassurances
that
she
gives
them
not
for
us.
This
amendment.
A
Amendment
you're
not
pressing,
no
so
I'm,
a
min
26
is
not
being
pressed
to
can
I
ask
the
chamber:
does
number
of
Russian
to
withdraw
amendment
to
26
we
agreed
can
I
call
amendment
27
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish.
This
was
debated
earlier
part
of
image
to
move
move.
Thank
you
that
is
move.
The
question
is
that
amendment
27
be
agreed
to.
Are
we
all
agreed
we're
not
agreed
we'll
move
to
a
vote
on
amendment
27.
This
will
be
a
one
minute
division
and
remembers
me
cast
their
votes
now.
A
D
Officer
there
is
a
frustration
amongst
opposition
parties
in
this
Parliament.
For
years
now
we
have
continually
highlighted
what
we
see
is
poor
ambition
on
climate
change,
especially
in
the
areas
of
housing
and
farming.
Stronger
action
is
called
on
by
the
UK
climate
change
committee
should
have
been
embedded
into
the
climate
change
plan,
but
it
wasn't-
and
so
we
needed
to
take
action
inside
this
legislation
now
if
I
could
start
with
the
amendments
on
farming,
which
we
all
accept
in
this
group.
D
It's
clear
that,
while
countries
like
France
have
forged
ahead
crazy,
ambitious
Agri,
ecology
action
plans
to
cut
emissions,
restoring
biodiversity
and
supporting
farm
businesses
in
Scotland,
we
remain
stuck
in
preserving
the
status
quo.
We
know
how
to
change.
We
have
excellent
if
underfunded,
research
institutes,
we
can
restore
our
soil,
our
integrating
trees
onto
farm
systems,
and
we
can
expand
organic
production.
We
can
design
advice
and
financial
support
to
drive
the
farming
transition,
while
recognizing
the
whole
contribution
that
farm
Holdings
can
make
to
the
nation's
carbon
balance
sheet
on
housing.
D
Drafty
cold
homes
are
dragging
down
our
efforts
to
cut
household
emissions,
and
it
needs
a
fresh
focus
alongside
a
determination
to
earn
the
disgrace
of
fuel
poverty.
A
tolerable
standard
of
at
least
EPC
C
must
be
the
norm
for
the
vast
majority
of
households
in
Scotland.
We
can
learn
from
us
retrofit
approaches
across
Europe,
as
well
as
the
targeted
approaches
to
helping
hard
to
heat
properties,
access
advice
and
financial
support.
D
We
must
also
be
pioneering
a
look
to
new
frontiers
in
preserving
and
locking
up
carbon
on
the
day
that
the
on
this
day
today,
the
IPCC
has
launched
its
new
report
on
the
oceans
on
demanding
that
future
climate
plans
recognize
and
support
these
ecosystems
and
their
role
as
carbon
sinks,
as
well
as
their
ability
to
help
us
adapt
to
extreme
weather.
Kelp
has
never
been
more
important,
presiding
officer,
and,
finally,
we
need
clarity
from
the
government
on
their
policies
for
fossil
fuel
extraction,
including
unconventional
oil
and
gas.
D
Now
it's
been
a
welcomed
change
in
tone
from
the
first
minister.
While
we
still
await
a
legally
watertight
fracking
ban
to
be
delivered,
the
government's
policies
and
fossil
fuels
cannot
exist
in
a
separate
silo
away
from
these
climate
plans.
The
need
for
transition
has
to
be
addressed
in
the
heart
of
these
climate
plans,
regardless
of
the
level
of
ambition,
so
presiding
officer
across
a
range
of
policy
areas.
I
move
amendments,
28,
29
30
in
this
group.
D
A
E
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
you
permit
me
I'll,
start
off
with
amendment
33,
the
agricultural
modernization
fund,
and
this
would
introduce
a
requirement
for
Scottish
Ministers
to
set
out
the
proposals
and
policies
in
the
climate
change
plan
for
such
a
fund
to
reduce
green
house
green
house
gas
emissions
on
Scottish
farms.
This
year's
program
for
government
set
out
the
Scottish
government's
plans
to
consider
funding
in
the
budget
as
part
of
a
new
agricultural
transformation
programme.
My
amendment
would
ensure
the
policies
and
proposals
for
any
future
agricultural
modernisation
fund
are
considered
in
the
next
climate
change
plan.
E
Taking
forward
policies
and
proposals
for
funding
to
support
climate
friendly
farming
practices
could
help
contribute
to
on-farm
sequestration
and
emissions
reductions.
Present
funding
is
not
available
to
support
farmers
with
with
often
apprehensive
upfront
costs
associated
with
reducing
emissions
from
agriculture.
On
amendment
31,
this
seeks
to
introduce
a
requirement
for
Scottish
Ministers
to
set
out
their
proposals
and
policies
for
a
whole
approach
to
emissions
accounting
on
Scottish
farms
in
the
climate
change
plan.
E
Amendment
32
seeks
to
introduce
a
requirement
for
Scottish
Ministers
to
set
out
their
proposals
and
policies
on
the
potential
for
capture
and
storage
of
carbon
when
designated
marine
protection
areas
in
the
climate
change
plan.
This
amendment
would
encourage
the
Scottish
Government
to
take
account
of
the
potential
for
carbon
sequestration
alongside
biodiversity
concerns
when
designated
marine
protected
areas.
C
You
presiding
officer,
if
I
may
I
will
start
with
my
rascals.
Amendment
28,
which
we
will
be
supporting
and
I,
would
stress
that
it
will
oblige
discussion
on
the
future
of
our
fossil
fuel
industry
and
where
that's
going
and
that's
a
discussion
that
needs
to
be
had
across
this
parliament
in
relation
to
climate
emergency
and
the
just
transition,
and
also
highlights
the
onshore
fracking
position
that
the
Parliament
holds
as
as
as
I
speak
in
terms
of
mark
rusticles.
C
Amendment
29
research
is
needed
to
build
on
what
we
have
already
and
mirror
the
peatland
research
journey
to
action.
And
so
we
support
this
because
I
mean
climate
change
plan.
We
have
somewhat
heated
around
real
support
for
the
marine
ecosystems
and
blue
carbon
and
I
think
there
should
be
a
priority
and
there
should
be
more
research
into
this
in
terms
of
Mark
Rascals.
C
Morris
golden
and
Mark
Rascal
building
on
mark
rusticles
state
to
amendment
on
whole
farm
commitments
and
also
the
work
by
some
colleagues
in
the
committee,
such
as
John
Scott,
who
I'd
pay.
My
good
wishes
to
today
as
well
and
Findlay
Carson
is.
This
is
a
really
important
amendment,
because
agriculture
is
one
of
the
heaviest
and
somewhat
intractable
emitters
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
I.
C
K
C
C
So
it's
very
important
that
we,
in
my
view,
that
we
put
this
into
the
amendment
so
that
that
recognition
is
there
and
I
do
find
it
to
go
on
from
there
disappointing
that
if
I
understand
it
right,
the
Morris
golden
isn't
going
to
support
either
of
my
amendments,
either
on
on
peatland,
restoration
or
on
agroforestry
as
I
think.
These
are
ways
forward
which
farmers
can
really
contribute
through
and
also
they
can
bring
great
benefits
to
farmers
themselves.
You
know
the
agroforestry
they're
not
over
prescriptive.
C
For
you
know,
I
think
ways
of
combining
woodlands,
tree
planting
and
hedging
for
growing
or
grazing
in
agroforestry
and
seasonal,
shade
and
shelter,
as
well
as
riparian
planting.
To
avoid
erosion
are
only
two
examples
of
two
or
three
examples
of
the
value
that
agroforestry
can
bring
and
I
think
this
should
be
at
the
heart
of
this
amendment
in
the
climate.
Emergency
and
I
would
stress
also
that,
with
the
great
deal
of
work
that's
been
done
by
nourish.
These
two
amendments
have
been
supported
as
strengthening
additions
to
amendment
31.
Okay,
thank.
B
Thank
You
presiding
officer,
the
amendments
in
this
grouping
all
seek
to
constrain
the
content
of
future
climate
change
plans
to
set
out
policies
and
proposals
on
specific
matters.
Parliament
already
has
substantial
input
into
the
design
of
plans
through
scrutiny
of
a
draft
version,
so
the
group
of
amendments
does
run
the
risk
of
overly
prescribing
a
set
of
certain
policy
areas.
B
It
will
run
the
risk
of
restricting
the
process
for
a
plan,
preparation
and
and
also
runs
a
danger
of
introducing
a
hierarchy
of
policy
options
with
those
chosen
no
to
be
on
the
face
of
the
act
taking
precedence
over
all
others,
and
these
do
remain
concerns.
Nevertheless,
I've
reflected
on
the
decisions
made
by
the
committee
at
stage
2
and
the
ongoing
desire
to
further
such
amendments
as
such
I've
looked
closely
at
each
of
today's
amendments.
With
a
view
to
supporting
these,
wherever
possible.
B
I
can
accept
amendment
28
to
require
that
our
client
of
feature
climate
change
plans
should
include
our
policies
on
onshore
and
offshore
oil
and
gas.
I
am
sympathetic
to
both
of
the
amendments
on
blue
carbon.
Our
oceans
are
vital
in
mitigating
climate
change,
in
Parliament's
interest.
In
the
marine
environment
is
welcomed,
however,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
sensible
for
both
of
these
to
be
agreed.
I'm
of
the
view
that
Morris
Golden's
amendment
30
to
better
reflects
the
status
of
the
emerging
and
evolving
evidence
base
around
these
matters
than
mark
Rosco's.
C
My
understanding
is
that
there's
a
vital
focus
of
planning
and
monitoring
for
MPAs
in
that
amendment,
where,
as
Mart
Rosco's
amendment
is
more
widely,
looks
at
and
highlights
the
whole
marine
environment
and
the
opportunities
there.
So
that's
why
I'm
Scottish
labor
today
will
be
supporting
both
of
them
cameras.
B
Process
of
explaining
why
I
think
the
Morris
golden
amendment
actually
suits
the
situation
better
at
the
moment,
certainly
because
of
the
that
international
scientific
guidelines
not
actually
being
there
for
the
measurement
and
I'm
glad
that
Claudia
Beamish
mentioned
the
particular
reference
to
marine
protected
areas,
an
amendment
25,
because
actually
that
is
welcome.
If
the
MPA
network
needs
to
be
adapted
in
the
future,
then
it
is
right
that
the
potential
sequestration
of
carbon
is
a
material
consideration
and
site
selection,
designation
and
management.
I.
B
Would
our
embers
to
support
amendment
32
and
reject
amendment
29
I
can
accept
amendment
30
to
set
out
measures
in
our
climate
change
plans
linking
to
achieving
EPC
C
for
a
majority
of
homes
by
the
end
of
the
plan
period
were
practical.
The
ccc
has
been
clear
that
the
scottish
government
has
already
put
forward
a
strong
plan
for
creating
more
energy-efficient
homes.
B
We've
also
accepted
the
committee's
recommendation
on
heat
decarbonisation
and
will
publish
a
heat,
decarbonization
policy
statement
in
summer
2020
and
we
are
currently
developing
our
plan
to
ensure
any
new
build
homes
consented
from
2024
are
required
to
use
renewable
or
low-carbon
heat.
The
scottish
government's
policy
position
is
that
by
2040
our
buildings
will
be
warmer,
greener
and
more
efficient,
and
we
will
continue
our
strong
delivery
approach
towards
achieving
these
goals
as
a
key
part
of
achieving
Net
Zero
emissions
by
2045
across
Scotland's
economy
as
a
whole.
B
However,
do
let
me
be
clear
that
all
those
who
support
this
amendment
must
also
support
any
necessary
measures
in
future
to
compel
homeowners
to
invest
in
the
energy
efficiency
of
their
homes.
I
can
also
accept
amendment
31,
including
amendments
31,
a
and
31
B,
on
the
establishment
of
a
whole
farm
approach
to
emissions
accounting,
we're
all
eager
to
give
proper
recognition
and
credit
to
Scotland's
farmers
and
land
managers
for
the
wide
range
of
activities
they
undertake
to
help
tackle
climate
change.
B
The
government
is
already
undertaking
work
to
develop
a
complementary
reporting
system
of
emissions
on
a
whole
farm
basis.
The
present
amendment
will
mean
that
such
reporting
only
happens
every
five
years
with
each
new
climate
change
plan.
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
quite
what
stakeholders
are
looking
for,
the
government
would
look
to
report
rather
more
frequently
than
that.
Furthermore,
as
discussed
at
stage,
two
members
must
understand
that
any
such
complementary
accounting
scheme
cannot
replace
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
which
is
determined
by
international
classifications.
B
Finally,
in
this
group,
I
can
also
accept
Morris
Gordon's
amendment
33
on
an
agricultural
modernization
fund.
Well,
there
is
a
slight
danger.
This
may
prove
too
prescriptive
in
a
bill
requiring
reporting
to
continue
until
2045.
Nonetheless,
we
were
content
to
factor
this
into
the
development
of
our
existing
commitment
to
a
long
term.
Agriculture,
agricultural
transformation
program,
which
was
set
out
in
the
programme
for
government.
D
Obviously
not
here
today.
John's
contribution
Committee
on
this
issue
has
been
that's
been
very
strong
in
terms
of
the
blue
carbon
issues
and
Morris
Golden's.
Amendment
I
am
concerned
as
an
alternative
to
mine
that
it
focuses
entirely
on
MPAs
and
the
MPA
designation
process.
You
know
our
kelp
forests
are
our
blue
carbon
resources
exist
across
the
coast
of
Scotland
in
our
seas.
D
They're
not
just
restricted
to
MPA,
so
I
would
have
concerns
about
supporting
that
amendment
on
its
own
if
it
was
in
combination
with
a
broader
strategic
approach
as
I'm
proposing
through
my
amendment,
I
would
accept
it,
but
not
on
its
own.
It
clàudia
Beamish
is
nodding
away
as
well.
The
the
the
definition
of
that
is
far
too
constrained.
D
All
in
gas
I
think
it's
significant
that
both
Labour
Party
and
the
SNP
supporters
to
support
the
start
of
a
discussion
of
oil
and
gas
in
the
context
of
climate
change
in
the
climate
change
plan.
That's
not
to
you
know,
build
policies
at
this
point
into
that
climate
change
plan
for
the
future,
but
it
is
to
acknowledge
that
we
need
to
start
somewhere
with
this
discussion.
It
is
about
just
transition.
It
is
about
the
future
of
that
industry
and
taking
communities
with
us
in
that
transition
and
I.
Welcome
that
I.
D
A
A
D
A
A
The
result
of
the
vote
on
amendment
number
29
in
the
name
of
Mark
Russell
is
yes
34,
no
87
there
were
no
abstentions.
The
amendment
is
therefore
not
agreed.
I
call
amendment
six
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish.
This
was
debated
area
and
group.
Three
could
have
used
to
move
that
it
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
six
we
agreed
to
are,
we
agreed,
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
them.
In
thirty,
in
the
name
of
Marc
Ross
killed,
Marc
Roscoe
to
move
loose.
That
is
moved.
A
E
C
A
A
A
A
The
result
of
the
vote,
an
amendment
number
31,
be
in
the
name
of
Cody
Beamish
is
yes
93,
no
28
there
were
no
abstentions.
The
amendment
is
therefore
agreed
so
Morris
Gordon
to
press
or
withdraw
amendment
31
as
amended
press
press.
The
question
is
that
amendment
31,
as
amended,
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
him
Emmett
32
in
the
name
of
Morris
golden
already
debated,
Morris
:
to
move
amendment
32
move
that
is
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
32
be
agreed
to
are
we
agreed?
We
are
agreed.
L
A
Now
can
I
call
him
I
made
33
in
the
name
of
Morris
golden
Morris
golden
move,
move
that
is
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
33
be
agreed
to
how
we
agreed.
We
are
agreed
column.
It
34
in
the
name
of
Mark
Russell
mark
Kruskal
to
move
that
is
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
34
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed
which
are
now
group
11.
C
You
presiding
officer,
I
have
four
amendments
in
this
group
designed
to
embed
the
just
transition
into
the
core
of
this
bill,
and
I
will
speak
to
them
shortly.
In
Scottish
Labor's
opinion
this
bill
has
a
glaring
oversight
in
the
exclusion
of
the
statutory
just
transition
Commission,
we
embark
on
a
pathway
to
reach
net
zero
emissions
by
2045
at
the
latest,
a
huge
positive
shift,
but
one
that
will
require
a
change
in
all
areas
of
life
from
the
individual
for
the
worker
for
the
for
Communities
for
businesses
across
all
sectors.
C
This
shift
must
benefit
from
the
guidance
of
those
in
these
industries
of
those
with
relevant
experience
and
expertise,
and
these
questions
of
justice
must
be
re
asked
multiple
times
throughout
this
shift
and
beyond.
It
is
in
Scottish
Labor's
for
you
nonsensical
that
the
Scottish
Government
thinks
that
their
Commission
with
respect
to
its
membership
can
provide
the
answers
within
three
years.
C
3
I
see
the
Scottish
Government's
rejection
of
a
statutory
Commission
as
a
fundamental
misunderstanding
of
the
concerns
of
workers,
communities
and
businesses.
However,
I
will
now
move
on
to
the
amendments.
I
have
been
able
to
submit,
within
the
confines
of
the
bills,
somewhat
limited
scope
in
this
area.
Amendment
8
includes
further
information
relevant
to
the
just
transition
within
the
pub
within
the
climate
change
plans
requiring
ministers
to
set
out
how
the
policies
will
affect
different
regions
of
Scotland
and
the
employment
of
those.
C
In
regions
and
sectors
of
the
economy,
it
also
requires
Minister
to
set
out
how
they
would
support
the
workforce,
employers
and
communities
in
these
sectors
and
regions.
Amendment
7
is
a
minor
consequential
to
this
amendment.
35
includes
specific
reference
to
the
just
transition
principles
in
the
preparation
of
the
plan,
which
is
the
section
of
the
bill
in
which
the
consideration
the
principles
will
be
most
significant.
C
Setting
the
domestic
policies
to
deliver
these
targets
must
have
the
influence
of
social
justice
and
amendment
37
adds
trade
unions
to
those
persons
with
which
the
Scottish
Ministers
must
develop
and
maintain
social
consensus
through
engagement.
The
existing
list
included
workers,
communities,
non-governmental
organisations,
representatives
of
the
interests
of
business
and
industry
and
appropriate
others.
The
just
transition
movement
was
born
from
the
trade
unions,
and
so
this
is
a
glaring
omission
and
I
hope.
Members
will
support
this
today
and
the
other
amendments
in
the
group.
These
four
amendments
are
important
additions
and
I'm.
C
Glad
to
see
they've
received.
The
backing
of
a
number
of
NGOs
in
particular
also
nfu
earth
are
securing
a
just.
Transition
will
be
so
important
for
farmers
have
a
potential
greater
role
to
play
in
solving
the
climate
challenges
as
custodians
of
our
land
in
one
of
the
heaviest
emitters
that
being
agriculture.
I
know,
though,
that
there
will
be
many
today
who
are
disappointed.
C
Finally,
that
the
just
transition
Commission
cannot
be
put
on
the
statutory
footing,
not
least
the
just
transition
partnership
of
NGOs
and
unions
and
the
St.
You
see
itself,
who
have
done
so
much
work
to
put
this
on
a
long-term,
properly
resource,
statutory
footing
for
the
people
of
Scotland.
Thank
you.
A
D
You
I've
been
very
pleased
to
work
with
Claudia
Beamish
at
stage
2
in
our
attempts
to
try
and
embed
the
just
transition
principles
into
the
bill
and
an
establish
a
statutory,
Commissioner
and
I
share.
A
frustration
and
I
will
be
returning
to
that
in
the
debate
we're
going
to
have
after
stage
3
amendment
phase,
but
the
amendments
in
this
group
that
have
been
agreed
with
government
go
a
little
way
to
ensuring
that
just
transition
is
recognized
in
the
climate
plans.
D
Now
my
own
amendment
in
this
group
ensures
that
the
reporting
must
also
spell
out
how
communities,
workers
and
employers
are
being
assisted
in
that
transition.
It's
a
small
improvement,
it's
a
small
improvement,
but
hopefully
a
step
towards
a
much
wider
approach
to
transition
and
the
work
needed
on
the
ground
to
plan
and
progress.
The
changes
that
are
profound
but
also
just.
G
And
presenting
officer
about
the
importance
of
taking
people
with
us
as
we
seek
to
make
the
changes
that
are
necessary
in
delivering
our
climate
change
machines.
This
is
true
nation
to
the
targets
we
sent.
It
underpins
the
case
for
establishing
a
citizens
assembly
and
it's
very
much
central
to
the
concept
of
ensuring
a
just
transition.
Achieving
zero
emissions
by
2045
and
the
interim
target
we've
now
set
for
2030
will
be
enormously
challenging.
It
will
require
significant
changes
in
behavior
practice
and
the
way
in
which
our
overall
economy
functions.
G
Recognizing
this
and
finding
ways
of
mitigating
the
impacts
were
possible.
A
living
Lewis
directly
effected
an
opportunity
to
shape
the
way
in
which
that
change
happens
will
be
essential.
The
amendments
I
think
in
this
group
are
useful
in
that
respect,
for
the
fleshing
out
what
a
just
transitions
should
look
like
I'm,
particularly
pleased
to
see
amendment
eight
and
Claudia
Bhima
she's,
near
name,
which
I
think
seeks
to
break
down
this
process
to
a
more
regional
and
sectoral
level,
recognizing
that
the
effect
of
those
changes
that
will
not
be
felt
uniformly
across
the
board.
G
I,
absolutely
shared
thought
of
omission.
Mark
Russell's.
Frustration
about
the
failure
to
make
progress
in
embedding
the
just
transition
Commission,
only
statutory
fruiting
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
the
Cabinet
Secretary
has
disabled
from
Scottish
Liberal
Democrats
generally
supported
with
the
intention
of
eyes
behind
the
amendments
in
this
group.
Thank
you
thank.
B
Was
anticipating
actually
speaking
to
the
amendments
that
have
been
lodged
and
presiding
officer?
The
amendments
in
this
group
seek
to
further
strengthen
the
emphasis
on
a
just
transition
approach
at
the
heart
of
climate
change
plans
and
I'm
grateful
to
Claudia
Beamish
and
mark
Roscoe
for
constructive
engagement
with
the
government
over
the
summer
to
adapt
their
stage
to
amendments
on
these
matters
into
a
form
that
will
better
fit
with
the
wider
bill
framework.
B
The
present
amendments
build
usefully
from
the
government's
amendments
at
stage
two
which
have
added
a
set
of
just
transition
principles
to
the
bill
as
matters
that
ministers
must
have
regard
to
when
preparing
climate
change
plans.
Those
plans
must
also
then
set
out
how
the
principles
have
been
taken
into
account.
B
Amendment
37
adds
trade
unions
to
the
bodies
that
must
be
engaged
as
part
of
these
principles.
This
would
have
been
the
case
I'm
happy
to
support
the
change
on
the
face
of
the
bill.
Amendment
8
will
ensure
that
existing
assessments
of
the
impacts
of
climate
change
plans
on
sectors
of
the
economy
will
include
regional
dimensions
and
employment
in
particular.
An
amendment
8
also
ensures
that
plans
must
also
include
policies
and
proposals
to
support
workforces,
employers
and
communities
through
the
transition
to
net
zero
emissions.
B
Amendment
36
ensures
that
such
measures
are
also
within
the
scope
of
the
sector
by
sector,
annual
monitoring
reports
on
progress
to
delivering
the
plan,
and
all
of
these
represents
sound
additions
to
the
statutory
framework.
I
would,
however,
art
Claudia
Beamish,
not
to
press
her
amendment
35.
This
seeks
to
require
the
specific
element
of
the
plan
relating
to
assessing
impacts
on
the
economy
to
be
prepared
with
reference
to
the
just
transition
principles.
B
My
objection
to
this
amendment
is
purely
technical
as
I
hope
that
I've
been
clear
that
I
see
the
just
transition
principles
as
firmly
underpinning
the
climate
change
plan.
However,
the
bill
as
it
stands
already
requires
that
ministers
take
into
account
the
just
transition
principles
when
preparing
all
aspects
of
climate
change
plans
and
to
set
out
how
they
have
done.
So
it
is
these
duties
which
gives
substance
to
the
principles
as
such.
The
proposed
amendment
would
be
largely
duplicative
of
the
existing
provisions
and
therefore
not
good
legal
practice.
B
So
I
would
encourage
Claudia
Beamish
to
not
press
amendment
35
for
these
strong
technical
reasons.
If
she
does
continue
to
do
so,
then
I
will
oppose
it.
In
respect
of
the
amendment
there
isn't
here
in
putting
a
just
transition
Commission
into
a
statutory
framework,
could
I
remind
everybody
in
this
chamber
that
there
is
a
just
transition
Commission.
It
has
been
working
hard
over
the
last
year
and
it
will
continue
to
work
hard
and
I
look
forward
to
their
report.
When
it
comes.
C
Thank
for
siding
officer
and
I've
listened
with
care
to
what
the
cabinet
secretary
has
said.
However,
I
am
disappointed
that
she
hasn't
given
further
explanation
of
why
a
long
term
statutory,
properly
resourced
just
transition
Commission,
is
not
something
that
the
Scottish
government
can
support,
because
some
net
zero
is
going
to
be
some
time
in
the
coming
in
the
climate.
C
So
I,
just
transition
must
be
at
the
heart
of
our
climate
change
bill
and
our
plans
for
the
future,
and
all
policies
must
be
assessed
against
the
effect
that
the
climate
change
plans
going
forward
have
on
our
communities
and
on
workers
and
on
indeed
individuals,
particularly
those
on
their
incomes.
So
I
am
very
glad
that
there
is
considerable
support
for
these
across
the
chamber
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
Has
moved
the
question?
Is
the
amendment
ten
be
agreed
to?
Are
we
all
agreed
agreed
call
them
at
11:00
Claudia
be
wish
to
move.
That
is
moved.
The
question
is
that
amendment
11
be
agreed
to
are.
We
all
agreed
that
has
agreed?
Can
I
call
amendment
12,
Claudia
Bemis
to
move
that
has
moved
the
question
is
that
could
so
that
question
is
yes,
sir
yeah
I
call
in
12
E
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish?
That
is
moved.
So
the
question
is
that
I'm
at
12,
E
we
agreed:
are
we
agreed
or
not
agreed?
A
A
A
Is
amendment
12
to
be
agreed
how
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
amendment
36
in
the
name
of
mark
Roscoe,
Marc
Krauss
will
to
move.
That
is
moved.
The
question
is
the
remember
36
be
agreed
to
are
we
agreed,
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
a
moment
13
in
the
name
of
the
cabinet
secretary
already
moved?
Thank
you
very
determined.
The
question
is
the
limit
13
be
agreed
to
are
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed,
can
I
call
a
moment
37
in
the
name
of
Claudia
be
wish
code
appears
to
move
moved.
A
A
A
There
is
not,
as
a
vote
on
amendment
number
14
II
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Beamish
is
yes
27,
no
92
there
were
no
abstentions.
The
amendment
is
therefore
not
agreed.
The
question
is
the
moment.
14
we
agreed
to
are
we
agreed.
We
are
agreed
I
turn
to
our
final
group
group.
12
impact
of
infrastructure.
Investment
on
emissions
can
I
call
amendment
15
in
the
name
of
Claudia
Michigan,
a
group
in
its
own
cloud
of
use
to
speak
to
and
move
the
amendment.
Thank.
C
You
for
sodding
officer
amendment
15
relates
to
the
Scottish
Government's
infrastructure
investment
plans,
as
has
emerged
thanks
to
discussion
between
myself,
Marc
Roscoe
and
the
cabinet
secretary.
Following
our
amendments
that
stayed
infrastructure,
investments
made
by
the
public
purse
need
to
be
fit
for
the
future
and
for
the
public
good
in
the
context
of
the
climate
emergency.
This
public
good
must
be
in
alignment
with
emissions
reductions
efforts.
This
amendment
goes
some
way
to
achieving
that
by
requiring
ministers
to
set
out
an
assessment
of
how
its
infrastructure
investment
plan
will
contribute
to
our
targets.
C
I'm
pleased
that
this
works
in
conjunction
with
my
amendments
passed
in
the
Planning
Act,
which
required
an
assessment
of
the
lifecycle
of
emissions
of
major
developments,
giving
a
much
clearer
picture
of
the
emissions
associated
in
construction
usage
and
I
stress
decommissioning.
There
is
further
work
to
be
done
in
ensuring
the
future
proofing
of
our
public
infrastructure,
but
I
hope
members
will
support
this
amendment
to
give
a
better
understanding,
at
least
of
the
strategic
and
financial
decisions
made.
Thank
you
thank.
D
Thanks
financial
budgeting
is
an
area
of
this
bill
where
I'd
hoped
we
could
have
made
greater
progress
by
now.
At
stage
two,
we
did
discuss
the
imperative
of
setting
a
clear
target
to
shift
infrastructure
spend
from
high
carbon
to
low
carbon
to
lock
out,
rather
than
to
lock
in
emissions
for
decades
to
come.
Sadly,
in
this
bill,
we're
no
further
forward,
although
I
do
welcome.
D
The
government
are
commissioning
work
to
flesh
out
a
methodology
for
assessing
high
to
low
carbon
infrastructure
projects
and,
crucially,
the
emissions
that
are
generated
from
the
use
of
that
infrastructure.
This
amendment
to
help
reveal
the
infrastructure
investment
plans.
Climate
impact
is
a
welcome
baby
step
forward,
but
there's
still
much
to
do
in
this
area.
B
I'm
content
to
support
amendment
15
as
a
pragmatic
measure
to
improve
reporting
arrangements
around
how
Scotish
budgets
are
supporting
emissions
reductions.
However,
this
amendment
should
also
be
seen
as
fitting
into
a
wider
body
of
work
on
these
important
matters.
The
Scottish
Government
has
placed
climate
change
at
the
heart
of
the
current
programme
for
government,
and
it
will
likewise
be
central
to
the
upcoming
spending
review
and
budget.
There
were
a
range
of
stage
two
amendments
lodged
regarding
the
relationship
between
budget
information
and
climate
change.
B
B
Such
a
review
will
necessarily
take
some
time
in
order
to
be
effective,
but
we
expect
it
to
be
able
to
inform
the
2020
2021
budget
I've
also
offered
to
Commission
programmes
of
research
to
better
understand
her
capital
expenditure
can
be
assessed
in
terms
of
emissions
impacts
and
how
information
on
the
emissions
impacts
of
all
relevant
policies
is
currently
being
identified
and
communicated
through
existing
statutory
impact
assessment
processes.
These
review
and
research
programs
will
help
identify
steps
to
deliver
improvements
in
cross
portfolio
processes
and
transparency.
This
first
step
gathering
and
reviewing
evidence
is
the
right
one.
B
There
are
real
and
very
challenging
issues
of
methodology
that
need
to
be
resolved
before
we
can
determine
the
best
reporting
requirements
in
the
meantime,
I'm
content
to
support
the
present
amendment
on
the
emissions
impacts
of
the
Scottish
Government's
infrastructure
investment
plans.
This
recognises
the
particular
importance
of
strategic
capital
investment
decisions
for
Scotland's
journey
to
Net
Zero
emissions,
but
does
so
in
a
way
which
is
not
overly
prescriptive,
given
the
current
our
own
methodologies
for
assessing
these
impacts.
B
C
Thank
you,
I
would
like
to
press
the
amendment
and
I
I.
Do
welcome
the
comments
by
mark
Roscoe
that
we
haven't
gone
far
enough.
However,
I
also
welcome
the
cabinet
secretary,
some
comments
and
commitment
to
the
review
to
inform
the
budget
and
also
the
further
assessment
review.
The
two
reviews
that
she's
highlighted
I'm
sure
will
take
us
well
forward
for
future
budgets
and,
as
she
highlights,
the
strategic
capital
investment
issues
are
profoundly
important
if
we
are
to
move
forward
in
the
climate
emergency.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
very
much
and
the
question
is
that
moment:
15
be
agreed
to
how
we
agreed
we
are
agreed.
Can
I
call
816
air
code
image
to
move
that?
Let's
move
the
question?
Is
the
amendment
16
be
agreed
to
how
we
agreed?
That's
agreed
that
ends
consideration
of
amendments
now
before
we
move
on
a
determination
to
meet,
which
is
that
at
this
point
proceedings
and
required
under
Standing
Orders
to
decide
whether
or
not
in
my
view,
any
provision
of
the
bill
relates
to
a
protected
subject
matter.
A
That
is
whether
it
modifies
the
electoral
system
or
franchise
for
Scottish
parliamentary
elections.
In
my
opinion,
in
this
case
it
does
not.
Therefore
it
does
not
require
a
supermajority
to
be
passed
at
stage.
3
now
I
had
hoped
we
were
ahead
of
time,
but
we've
actually
lost
time
again.
So,
but
I'm
gonna
take
a
short
suspension.
So
if
I
can
suspend,
maybe
four
emails
longer
back
here
before
10
past
a
short
suspension.
L
L
L
M
Thank
you.
They
say
to
her
businesses,
the
stage
fee
debate
and
Wars
from
1
9
to
5
in
the
name
of
Rosanna
Cunningham
on
the
climate,
changed
emissions
reduction
targets,
Scotland,
Dalton
I.
Ask
those
members
who
wish
to
speak
the
day
expressed
that
request
to
speak
buttons,
though,
and
I
call
them
as
Alec
Cunningham
to
speak
to
and
move
the
motion
cabinet
safely.
Seven
minutes.
So
they
are
votes.
Please
Thank.
B
You
presiding
officer,
we
are
ten
years
from
the
2009
climate
change.
Act
and
I
should
say
that
Stuart
Stevenson,
who
was
then
the
minister
who
took
the
legislation
through
in
2009,
has
reminded
me
that
stage
three
in
that
act
took
morning
and
afternoon.
So
I
hope
people
are
pleased
that
this
time
around,
it's
been
considerably
slimmer
in
terms
of
management
that
Act
established
Scotland
as
a
world
leader
and
tackling
climate
change,
and
we
continue
to
be
a
world
leader
because
of
the
effective
and
rigorous
framework
had
created.
B
Scotland
is
still
the
only
country
in
the
world
to
set
legally
binding
annual
targets
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
We
were
the
first
country
to
include
a
fair
share
of
the
emissions
from
international
aviation
and
shipping
in
our
targets.
Since
2009
three
climate
change
plans
have
been
brought
forward,
with
some
annual
targets
being
met
and
some
missed,
but
crucially
Scotland's
emissions
are
now
down
by
47%,
since
the
1990
baseline,
we're
already
almost
halfway
to
reaching
net
zero
emissions
and,
equally
importantly,
this
progress
has
been
achieved,
while
growing
the
economy,
increasing
employment
and
productivity.
B
The
bill
makes
the
Act
stronger
and
more
a
transparent,
but
crucially,
it
increases
the
ambition
of
Scotland's
targets.
Last
year's
special
report
from
the
Intergovernmental
Panel
on
Climate
Change
on
global
warming
of
1.5
degrees
made
clear
that
the
world
is
now
facing
a
climate
emergency,
and
this
is
recognized
by
not
only
the
scientists
but
also
the
larger
numbers
of
citizens
here
in
Scotland
and
across
the
world
that
have
taken
to
the
streets
to
demand
the
more
action
and
greater
ambition
be
the
result.
B
In
light
of
the
IPCC's
report,
the
Scottish
government
commissioned
expert
advice
on
targets
from
the
independent
advisory
body
mandated
by
this
Parliament.
The
Committee
on
climate
changes,
advice
recommended
that
Scotland
should
set
2045
as
the
target
year
to
reach
Net
Zero
emissions
of
all
greenhouse
gases.
It
also
recommended
that
we
increase
our
interim
targets
for
2030
and
2040
to
reductions
of
70%
and
90%
respectively.
B
The
CCC
advises
that
these
targets
represent
the
highest
possible
ambition
called
for
under
the
Paris
agreement
and
that
they
represent
a
fair
contribution
towards
what
is
needed
globally,
to
limit
warming
to
1.5
degrees
and
I
immediately
lodged
amendments
at
stage
two
to
give
effect
to
the
CCC's
recommendations.
Today,
we've
committed
to
going
even
further
and
adopting
a
target
of
a
75%
reduction
in
Scotland's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2030
I've
already
set
out
my
reasons
for
this
approach.
B
B
At
stage
two,
we
accepted
a
large
number
of
the
recommendations
made
by
the
environment,
climate
change
in
land
reform
committee
in
its
stage
1
and
stage
2
reports,
including
directly
linking
Scotland's,
fair
and
safe
emissions
budget
to
the
global
temperature
goals
set
out
in
the
Paris
agreement,
tightening
the
safeguards
around
any
potential
lowering
of
target
levels
in
the
future.
Clarifying
and
strengthening
the
role
of
the
CCC
and
the
climate
change
plan
process
requiring
that
climate
change
plans
include
estimates
of
the
costs
and
benefits
of
the
policies
to
reduce
emissions.
B
Over
the
summer,
we
worked
with
colleagues
across
party
to
bring
back
amendments
from
stage
two
for
discussion
today,
and
these
include
those
that
will
embed
sustainable
development
considerations
throughout
the
act
and
place
climate
justice
at
the
heart
of
climate
change,
plans
strengthen
the
reporting
duties
around
consumption
emissions
and
ensure
that
the
Scottish
government
strategic
infrastructure
investment
plans
are
assessed
against
emissions
targets.
The
government
has
made
every
effort
to
accept
opposition
proposals
wherever
we
have
felt
it
possible
to
do
so.
B
J
Harvey
I'm
grateful
of
cabinet
IG
for
giving
way.
She
says
that
the
government's
tried
to
accept
amendments
wherever
possible,
but
she
has
rejected
the
proposal
for
an
80%
target
for
2030
can
I
remind
her
that
in
that
2009
debate
that
longer
debate,
I
put
forward
amendments
for
a
50%
target
for
2030
and
90%
by
2050
I
was
told
by
the
government
at
the
time
falling
back
on
the
advice
of
the
UK
CCC
that
those
were
unachievable
and
too
ambitious
to
back.
Given
that
we
were
right
before.
M
M
B
The
transition
to
Net
Zero
will
require
changes
to
virtually
every
aspect
of
everyday
life
for
Scotland's
people.
This
can
and
will
only
be
achieved
if
it
is
in
national
endeavor.
The
Scottish
Government's
commitment
is
clear.
Climate
change
lies
at
the
heart
of
our
programme
for
government
and
we
have
committed,
in
line
with
the
committee's
recommendations,
to
updating
our
current
climate
change
plan.
B
Within
six
months
of
the
bill
receiving
Royal
Assent,
we
are
looking
across
our
full
range
of
responsibilities
to
make
sure
we
continue
with
the
policies
that
are
working
and
identify
areas
where
we
can
go
further.
Faster
I
will
return
to
some
of
the
specific
actions
we're
already
taking.
In
my
closing
remarks,
central
central
to
our
approaches
are
just
transition,
one
in
which
no
one
is
left
behind
to
reflect
this
commitment.
B
Clearly,
in
law,
the
bill
was
amended
at
stage
two
to
place
a
set
of
internationally
recognized
just
transition
principles
on
its
face
and
at
the
heart
of
climate
change
plans.
Amendments
agreed
today
have
strengthened
these
arrangements.
Even
further
public
engagement
will
be
vital.
Building
from
the
big
climate
conversation
over
the
summer,
we've
committed
to
a
national
forum
on
climate
change,
and
we
have
today
supported
an
amendment
to
mandate
the
establishment
of
a
citizen's
assembly.
B
I
would
like
to
conclude
by
expressing
my
special
thanks
and
gratitude
to
all
the
members
of
the
environment,
climate
change
and
land
reform
committee
for
their
contributions
to
the
bill
process
and
can
I
make
a
special
mention
of
John
Scott,
who
I
know
would
wish
to
have
been
here
today
to
see
this
bill
through
to
the
end,
because
he
took
a
great
interest
in
it
presiding
officer.
This
bill
maintains
Scotland's
position
as
the
country
with
the
most
stringent
framework
of
statutory
climate
change
targets
anywhere
in
the
world
and
I
think.
B
We
should
sometimes
remember
that
when
we're
discussing
climate
change,
if
agreed,
it
will
mean
that
Scotland's
contribution
to
climate
change
ends
definitively
within
a
generation.
Today
will
then
mark
the
start
of
the
second
half
of
Scotland's
journey
to
Net
Zero
emissions.
I
move
that
the
Parliament
agrees
that
the
climate
change
emissions
reduction
targets
Scotland
bill
be
passed.
Thank.
E
M
E
Deputy
presiding
officer,
the
Scottish
Conservatives
are
committed
to
tackling
climate
change
and
protecting
our
planet
for
future
generations.
We
know
that
human
activity
is
caused
around
one
degree
of
global
warming
and
that
temperatures
will
continue
to
rise.
If
we
do
not
drastically
cut
our
emissions,
these
increases
in
temperature
will
have
a
devastating
impact
on
humanity.
Today,
a
new
I
PCC
report
warns
us
that
the
Earth's
oceans
are
already
under
severe
strain
from
climate
change.
Our
seas
have
become
hotter,
more
acidic
and
contain
less
oxygen
and
less
fish
because
of
human
activity.
E
Large
emission
reductions,
particularly
across
the
energy
and
waste
sectors,
are
welcome
achievement
made
possible
by
a
range
of
public,
private
and
third
sector
actions
and
a
favorable
policy
landscape
from
both
the
UK
and
Scottish
Government's.
However,
our
success
so
far
hides
a
lack
of
progress
in
major
areas
such
as
the
housing
sector,
where
emissions
are
only
down
21%.
Last
year,
we
won
cross-party
support
to
enact
stronger
energy
efficiency
targets
for
homes
by
2030
to
help
drive
down
the
missions
from
our
housing
sector.
E
This
is
the
issue
my
colleague,
Alexander
Burnett
has
worked
hard
to
promote
and
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
the
Scottish
government
listened
to
the
will
of
the
Scottish
Parliament
and
pledged
to
bring
forward
a
commitment
to
this
in
their
programme
for
government
this
year.
We
were
pleased
to
support
a
green
amendment
from
mark
Roscoe,
which
will
ensure
that
the
climate
change
plan
sets
out
measures
from
improving
the
energy
efficiency
of
housing
across
Scotland.
E
We
must
continue
to
ensure
that
we
are
taking
action
that
creates
opportunities
for
individuals
and
businesses,
as
the
opposition
party
to
have
released
policy
ideas
of
a
comprehensive
policy
document.
We
have
always
been
clear:
we
want
the
actions
to
limit
global
warming
that
provide
a
creation
and
sustainability
of
jobs,
support
for
innovation
and
investment
in
cutting-edge
technology.
We
have
always
supported
this
bill
in
principle
and
believe
that
many
of
the
changes
that
have
been
made
throughout
the
legislative
process
have
strengthened
the
bill
and
made
it
better.
E
Our
amendments
of
stage
three
seek
to
promote
and
support
the
transition
to
a
low-carbon
economy
and
encourage
further
action.
We
recognize
the
importance
of
supporting
all
sectors
of
the
economy
transition
to
a
low-carbon
economy.
That
is
why
I've
lodged
an
amendment
on
the
agricultural
modernization
fund
and
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
gained
cross-party
support
this
afternoon.
This
fund
will
support
investment
in
mitigation
measures
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
on
Scottish
farms.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
farmers
are
supported
as
part
of
a
transition
to
a
low-carbon
economy
and
are
supported
to
produce
better
environmental
and
economic
outcomes.
We
also
recognize
the
importance
of
supporting
emerging
technologies
and
so
introduced
an
amendment
that
would
require
future
climate
change
plans
to
set
out
proposals
and
policies
regarding
the
considerate,
consideration
of
carbon
capture
and
storage
when
Scottish
Ministers
designate
marine
protected
areas,
I
was
also
pleased
to
see
this
gained
support
this
afternoon.
E
M
C
You
presiding
officer,
Scottish,
Labour's
vision
for
the
Climate
Change
Act
has,
from
the
first
being
about
meeting
ambition,
and
also
about
it
being
just.
It
has
been
about
confessing
what
we
see
before
our
eyes
and
responding
honorably.
The
climate
emergency
is
here.
It
is
a
terrible
threat
to
millions
of
lives.
C
Who
can
dismiss
a
mandate
for
millions
around
the
world
and
the
indomitable
Greta
Tom
Berg
frustrated
to
tears
speaking
at
the
UN
this
week,
I'm
so
proud
today
to
be
in
Labour
Party,
the
first
major
political
party
to
set
an
ambition
at
a
level
anywhere
near
what
is
needed
to
happen
at
a
national
conference
yesterday,
accompanied
by
raft
of
proposals
fit
for
our
future.
Members
of
the
SNP
government
have
sometimes
called
me
gung-ho.
C
A
number
of
times
I-
dare
them
to
use
that
line
today
with
a
thousands
of
eyes
of
climate
strikers
on
us
all
and
that
of
the
global
South.
The
fact
is,
their
interim
target
was
not
enough
and
the
IPP
IPCC
demanded
rapid
and
transformational
change
in
order
to
prevent
irreversible
damage.
Already
children
in
Iceland
have
held
a
funeral
at
the
site
of
the
first
glacier
lost
to
climate
change.
Some
revocable
damage
is
already
happening
and
affecting
ecosystems
and
humans
across
the
globe,
and
yet
the
government
seven
90%
talk.
C
It
was
only
a
few
numbers
off
the
target
set
ten
years
ago
in
the
2009
act.
I'm
proud
this
week
that
the
labor
movement
demonstrated
the
utmost
commitment
to
taking
on
climate
change
and
Scottish
labor
will
now
consult
on
our
Scottish
labor
position.
Climate
strikers,
the
Labour
Party,
is
listening
and
in
many
ways
this
whole
Parliament
is
listening.
I'm
also
heartened
that
opposition
parties
today
came
together
to
go
some
way
to
ensuring
this
I
lodged
my
amendment
of
75%
reduction
by
2030,
with
this
very
intention
that
consensus
could
be
found
and
show.
C
This
Parliament
is
serious
and
is
listening.
It
will
also
send
a
signal
to
all
to
innovators,
to
finance
ears,
to
those
gathering,
research
funding
to
businesses
and
to
communities
and
public
bodies
and
individuals
across
Scotland
and
indeed
I
hope
across
the
world
with
Glasgow
coming
up
next
year,
as
the
cop
here,
that's
all
commit
today
to
going
further
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can.
C
This
is
a
real
lost
opportunity
for
this
bill,
knowing
that
the
voices
of
those
in
the
affected
industries
and
communities
and
regions
were
front
and
center
would
have
been
a
comfort
to
those
who
feel
uncertainty
and
the
government's
refusal
to
give
the
bill
of
financial
resolution
so
limiting
its
budget
has
denied
the
just
transition
commission
even
to
go
to
a
vote.
We
will
not
have
the
answers
to
an
equitable
pathway
for
20
by
2020
by
2021,
when
our
economy
and
society
will
be
transitioning
through
the
coming
years.
C
This
is
about
getting
union
business
worker
and
community
input
into
an
equitable
transition
for
those
in
the
oil
and
gas
fields,
for
farmers,
for
transport
workers,
for
those
in
every
sector
and
every
home
and
community
on
whatever
incomes
cabinet
secretary.
These
people
would
be
grateful
if
you
could
make
clear
your
reasons
again.
The
statutory
and
long-term
just
transition
Commission.
Is
it
because
you're
not
willing
to
meet
its
cost?
Is
it
because
you
think
it
would
take
too
long
to
set
up?
C
These
are
issues
that
really
should
be
addressed
and
I
hope
at
the
end
of
the
of
the
the
two
years
that
is
still
to
go
for
the
present
just
transition,
Commission
that
these
will
be
addressed
and
that
we
will
move
forward
together
and
make
it
statutory.
However,
I
am
delighted
that
there
was
collaboration
with
government
on
securing
more
meaningful
climate
justice
for
the
global
south.
We
now
have
the
principle
of
climate
justice
in
statute
and
duties
set
out
to
ensure
that
Scotland
always
stands
in
solidarity
with
those
on
the
climate
front
line.
C
It
bears
repeating
those
who
have
done
the
least
to
cause
climate
change
and
at
least
equipped
to
tackle
it
are
the
people
being
struck
by
it's
terrible
effects.
First
and
worst,
labor
will
vote
for
the
climate
change
bill
today
and
celebrate
what
successes
it
has
delivered
for
our
transition,
knowing
that
we
have
much
more
to
build
and
to
do
for
decades,
individuals
have
been
turning
down
their
thermostats
at
home
to
save
the
planet.
C
Let's
no
longer
rely
on
the
individual
alone
to
keep
the
heating
down
it's
time,
for
structural
collective
action
to
keep
temperatures
below
1.5
and
to
protect
the
future
of
this
planet.
For
all
the
quote
goes
treat
the
earth.
Well,
it
is
not
given
to
us
by
our
parents.
It
was
loaned
to
us
by
our
children.
M
D
You
presiding
officer-
and
it
would
be
perhaps
remiss
of
me
not
to
thank
everybody
who
has
lobbied
and
protested
and
provided
evidence
around
this
bill.
There
is
an
incredible
youthful
climate
movement
out
there,
which
is
certainly
inspiring
MSPs
on
these
benches,
and
there
are
huge
strengths
and
a
huge
testament
as
the
hundreds
of
emails
that
I
have
received
this
week's
bailout,
the
science
shows
that,
at
the
current
rate
of
emissions,
Scott
will
have
used
our
entire
carbon
budget
for
two
degrees
C
in
the
next
ten
years.
There
is
no
turning
back
from
that.
D
We
will
be
locked
into
a
world
with
more
suffering.
The
climate
crisis
is
deepening.
A
new
report
from
the
IPCC
today
warns
that
accelerating
impacts
on
the
oceans
put
1
billion
people
at
risk,
and
this
week
to
the
UN
has
said
that,
even
if
all
the
governments
around
the
world
meet
their
targets,
then
we
would
go
well
beyond
manageable
levels
of
climate
change.
So
this
crisis
demands
political
risk-taking,
however
uncomfortable
it
may
feel
to
challenge
sectors
like
farming
or
oil
and
gas
to
change.
D
D
You
know
steps
of
progress
that
we
could
all
celebrate
together,
the
tweaks
to
budgeting
and
how
we
measure
things:
the
recognition
of
key
principles
around
global
justice
and
equity,
the
focus
for
action
on
sectors
like
farming
and
housing,
the
involvement
of
people
in
designing
solutions
to
a
citizen's
assembly.
These
are
all
welcome
gains,
but
when
I
look
at
the
enormity
of
the
challenge
that
we
face
the
worsening
scientific
picture,
the
risks
that
we
are
taking
with
our
children's
future
I'm
saddened
and
angry
that
an
opportunity
to
deliver
real
transformative
change
has
been
passed
up.
D
Instead,
we
have
a
narrow
piece
of
legislation
setting
distant
targets
while
failing
to
deliver
the
rapid
transformation,
an
unprecedented
change
demanded
by
the
IPCC
and
even
within
the
narrow
scope
of
this
bill.
Big
opportunities
have
been
missed.
A
statutory
just
transition
commission
should
have
been
the
centerpiece
of
this
bill,
a
body
with
the
teeth
and
the
focus
to
take
on
the
challenges
of
change,
ensuring
that
no
communities
are
left
behind
in
this
transition,
a
body
that
should
be
at
the
heart
of
the
if
I
can
get
a
time
back.
N
Fatigue,
intervention:
it
seems
from
what
you're
saying
that
you're
not
going
to
support
the
climate
change
bill
at
decision
time
tonight.
So
why
is
it
that
when
we've
all
worked
so
hard
cross-party,
there's
so
much
more
to
agree
on
and
it's
so
more
of
robust
and
enforceable
after
all
agree?
So,
while
you
make
and
grandstand
comments
when
it's
more
important
of
a
consensus
on
these
issues,
mister.
M
D
Does
so
disappointing
for
mr.
costly,
if
you
not
listen
to
any
of
the
evidence
that
has
come
to
our
committee,
the
nature
of
this
crisis
demands
an
emergency
response.
Your
party
might
be
happy
with
his
weak
legislation.
My
party
isn't,
let
me
get
back
to
action,
because
we
need
to
start
to
talk
about
action
now
that
comes
from
this
bill.
A
just
transition
commission
should
be
at
the
heart
of
a
Scottish
green
New,
Deal
planning
those
new
regional
strategies
to
rebuild
and
reindustrialize
communities
in
a
low-carbon
age.
D
Instead,
it's
been
left
to
the
green
and
labour
parties
in
this
Parliament
to
try
and
desperately
amend
this
bill,
to
give
it
the
tools
it
needed
on
transition,
and
we
are
left
with
virtually
nothing
as
a
result.
Monitoring
reports
and
principles
in
plans
will
not
create
real,
lasting
change
that
is
needed
in
the
five
communities
that
I
represent.
D
Now
we
won't
stand
in
the
way
of
the
small
steps
of
progress
that
have
been
made
through
this
bill
today,
but
we
also
won't
endorse
a
bill
that
is
preoccupied
with
distant
targets
while
doing
nothing
to
deliver
transformative
action
and
does
not
go
far
enough
for
the
critical
period
of
the
next
10
years.
Time
is
running
out
and
while
the
targets
in
this
bill
are
eye-catching,
they're
not
backed
by
anything
that
suggests
the
status
quo
is
really
being
challenged.
D
When
we
look
back
at
this
bill
in
the
years
to
come,
we'll
see,
missed
opportunities
to
drive
strong
progress,
but
there'll
be
no
time
machine
to
call
on
its
government's
job
to
lead
and
to
deliver
the
change
that
is
necessary,
and
if
we
don't
see
that
necessary
change,
then
politics
and
democracy
will
have
failed.
Thank.
G
You
very
much
I
think
it's
regrettable
that
my
rascal
has
chosen
to
take
that
the
tone
that
he
has
I
respect
very
much
the
differences
of
opinion
that
he
has
not
just
with
the
government,
but
those
of
us
another
benches
but
I
think
one
of
the
strengths
and
I
think
Claudia
very
much
mentioned
it
in
our
earlier
deliberations.
One
of
the
strings
is
the
united
front
of
this
parliament
has
put
forward,
and
I
think,
there's
been
evidence
suggested.
We
do
many
things.
G
Jessie's
plea
has
been
since
echoed
by
young
people
from
across
Scotland
the
beyond
in
recent
weeks
and
months.
It
stems
from
an
understanding
that
urgent
action
is
essential
over
the
next
decade
if
we're
to
have
any
realistic
prospect
of
averting
the
catastrophic
consequences
of
climate
change.
If
we
are
to
hit
our
Net
Zero
targets
emission
target
for
2045
and,
if
were
to
deliver
an
appropriate
response
to
the
IPP,
cease
IPCC's.
G
A
latest
report
I'm
delighted,
therefore,
that
Parliament
has
voted
today
to
increase
the
interim
target
to
75
percent
by
2030
I
congratulate
again
Claudia
Beamish
on
launching
Merriman
and
I
was
happy
to
co-sign
an
amendment
that
has
enabled
I
think
a
highly
significant
change
to
be
made
in
the
climate
change
bill.
Some
argued
we
should
be
going
faster
and
further.
These
debates
have
been
happening
within
as
well
as
between
parties.
G
I'm
conscious,
though,
that
what
the
chair
of
the
UK
CCC
said
to
the
Eclair
Committee
on
target
setting
and
lured
them
and
constant
that
it
is
not
sensible
to
expose
a
target
without
being
clear
about
what
it
really
means.
You
can
have
any
old
target,
but
it
will
not
work
if
you
cannot
come
down
to
the
terms
for
how
you
will
get
there.
Yes,
we
need
to
be
ambitious,
challenging
and
resolute.
We
need
to
adapt
as
the
evidence
and
the
opportunities
available
change.
G
Ultimately,
though,
the
public
must
have
confidence
in
the
basis
on
which
we
are
setting
legislation.
I,
think
the
more
ambitious
75%
target
for
2030
strikes
the
right
balance
in
terms
of
ambition,
urgency
and
a
chief
of
a
cheaper
bullet
II.
For
now,
they
will
not
be
easy
or
required
with
their
effort
more
resources
and
involve
many
difficult
decisions
will
need
to
change
our
cars
retrofit
our
homes
and
industry
plant
more
trees
than
ever
before,
and
then
still
we
will
rely
on
technology
that
doesn't
even
exist
yet,
but
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
G
It's
the
right.
It's
right
that
we've
taken
steps
to
better
reflect
the
principle
of
equity
and
climate
justice
in
this
bill,
Scotland
as
he
developed
nation,
bears
the
larger
respond
ability
for
global
warming
and
therefore
should
be
doing
more
in
response
ski
off
merci
Katia
fund.
Another
stir
right
to
remind
us,
those
in
the
global
safe
who
have
contributed
list
for
the
creation
of
climate
change,
but
we
were
already
experiencing
its
worst
impacts.
G
Have
a
right
to
expect
us
to
step
up
to
the
plate,
w
presiding
officer
in
2009,
the
Act
we
passed
to
the
the
process
of
scrutinize
ation.
It
was
a
genuinely
cross-party
effort.
I
thanked
colleagues
for
the
efforts
and
constructive
engagement
as
I.
Do
the
many
many
external
stakeholders
and
members
of
the
public
who
have
engaged
so
passionately
and
enthusiastically
over
recent
months,
I'm
pleased
to
have
been
able
to
help
strengthen
the
bill
in
areas
such
as
international
aviation,
public
procurement
and
low
emission
vehicles
in
the
use
of
district
heating.
G
Since
schemes
others
will
point
to
their
own
success,
he's
now
warmly
welcomed,
for
example,
the
addition
of
the
climate
assembly
among
them,
but
overall,
as
in
2009,
there's
been
a
collective
effort,
and
that
has
been
one
of
its
strengths.
Of
course,
as
with
any
piece
of
legislation
passing,
it
is
very
much
the
easy
part
delivering
on
the
commitments
contained
in
this
bill
and
delivering
them
on
time
will
be
enormous
ly
challenging.
However,
the
clear
and
present
threat
posed
by
climate
change
here
internationally
has
been
laid
bare
by
the
IPCC.
G
M
F
You
very
much
presiding
officer,
and
let
me
just
start
by
wishing
John
Scott
well
and
hope
he
will
be
sitting
beside
me
when
we
look
at
the
climate
change
plan
update
because
John's
wise
council-
that's
not
to
say
I
unequivocably,
agree
with
everything
John
says,
but
his
wife's
council
will
be
important
in
that
stage.
If
farming
has
been
an
important
part
of
the
discussion
and
John
has
contributed
to
that,
as
others
across
the
political
parties
have
done,
and
I
very
much
welcome
the
fact
that
we've
incorporated
as
a
result,
the
most
organs
amendment,
nitrogen
accounting.
F
O
O
F
I
I
suspect,
if
they
had
better
roads
in
sub-sahara,
Africa
be
less
of
a
feminist
issues,
but
but
I
expect.
That's
not
really
the
point
the
member
is
trying
to
make
and
let's
just
quickly
address
where
patrick
harvie
correctly
said,
that
the
greens
and
became
50
percent
target
for
2030
in
the
last
time
right.
However,
the
other
thing
we
need
to
think
about
is
have
been
several
changes,
the
baseline,
which
is
added
to
the
inventory
of
co2.
F
So
we
need
to
translate
those
targets
in
2009
to
what
we
would
be
today
against
the
gauge
beta
baseline
under
be
rather
different.
We
also
in
2015
added
another
greenhouse
gas
to
the
inventory
nitrogen
trifluoride,
so
there
have
been
various
changes
that
affect
the
way
in
which
the
numbers-
well,
it's
just
a
bit
more
complex
than
we
sometimes
like
to
now.
I
do
want
to
talk
briefly
about
the
whole
subject
of
unanimity.
F
I
strongly
believe
we
have
to
be
driven
by
scientific
consensus,
not
by
individual
scientists
who
are
one
edge
of
the
argument
or
the
other,
particularly
not
because
these
scientists
are
wrong.
They
will
be
correct
within
the
area
of
their
research,
but
it's
that
consensus
that
comes
through
the
IPCC
and
I
welcome
the
new
report.
This
come
today
that
will
drive
further
change
as
it
has
to,
but
also
that
if
we
start
to
pick
scientists
from
an
extreme
position
valid
as
they
are,
we
allow
others
to
choose
scientists
who
disagree
with
a
whole
agenda
altogether.
F
That
is
why
we
should
always
go
by
the
consensus.
Now,
there's
nothing
to
stop
us
exceeding
the
recommendations
that
scientists
are
so
I
encourage.
My
colleague
says
on
the
green
benches,
to
think
carefully
about
withholding
their
support
for
this
while
continuing
to
campaign
for
more.
Let
me
conclude,
presiding
officer
and
say
I'm
inspired,
as
others
have
been
by
gratitude
mark
and
millions
of
young
climate
activists
around
the
world,
and
when
I
cast
my
vote
shortly,
it
will
be
thinking
of
her
and
her
young
companions.
I'll
be
deeds
before
all
matters.
P
You,
deputy
presiding
officer
and,
firstly,
can
I
recognize
the
hard
work
that
has
gone
into
this
bill
from
our
clerks
and
researchers,
as
well
as
all
constituents
and
organizations
who
have
contributed.
I'd,
also
like
to
thank
members
across
this
chamber
who
have
worked
across
party
lines
to
strengthen
this
bill
in
our
combined
goal
of
limiting
global
warming
to
one
and
a
half
degrees
Celsius
above
pre-industrial
levels.
We
are
all
committed
to
protecting
our
planet
for
future
generations.
P
Now,
as
members
will
know,
I've
been
a
strong
advocate
in
this
Parliament
on
improving
energy
efficiency
in
residential
homes,
to
EvCC
or
above
by
2030.
In
addition
to
winning
a
debate
on
the
matter
with
cross
body,
support
I've
tabled
amendments
at
stage
two
to
similar
effect
and
despite
the
SMP
imposing
this
for
the
last
two
years,
I'm
very
glad
to
see
that
our
position
has
now
adopted
in
the
programme
for
government.
A
Scottish
governments
have
backed
this
proposal
by
committing
10
percent
of
capital.
P
An
amount
that
currently
costs
us
up
to
80
million
pounds
a
year
now
for
us
to
find
a
pathway
to
zero
carbon
by
2045.
Their
report
also
sets
out
many
policies
and
programs
to
ensure
that
it
would
be
a
success
particularly
interested
to
read
their
five
recommendations
for
program,
development,
delivery
and
support
for
a
zero
carbon
future.
P
Our
Scottish
Conservatives
are
strong
advocates
for
the
devolution
of
powers
and
we
believe
that
the
delegation
and
distribution
of
powers
are
important
to
ensure
maximum
success
and
so
therefore,
the
first
recommendation
to
extend
local
authority
led
area
based
programs
to
deliver
both
energy
efficiency
and
heat
measures
are
welcome
now,
as
they
state
procurement
should
prioritize
Community,
Benefit
and
local
economic
development.
So
introducing
a
program
to
incentivize
deep
renovation,
where
appropriate
ism
is
important.
P
Now
Scottish
to
conservatives
believe
it
actions
to
limit
global
warning.
Warming
will
have
a
higher
probability
of
success
if
they
create
jobs
and
support
innovation.
So
we
welcome
the
suggestion
to
increase
support
for
self-funding
household
by
expanding
the
energy-efficient
scotland
pylons.
This
will
deliver
community
engagement,
develop
local
supply
chains
and
ensure
quality
control
combined
with
the
availability
of
loan
finance.
P
So,
therefore,
we
must
work
with
a
supply
chain
to
provide
support
in
training
and
skills
development
to
address
gaps
in
certain
trades
and
geographic
areas.
We
move
towards
a
zero
carbon
future
is
one
that
all
society
must
work
towards
in
a
coordinated
effort
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
energy
sector
to
make
this
a
reality.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
Q
You,
deputy
presiding
officer,
there
is
no
greater
political
cause
than
that
of
climate
change,
no
more
urgent
need
for
action,
and
it's
against
this
context
that
this
bill
is
to
be
welcomed
as
important.
Indeed,
it's
vital
that
we
put
our
action
towards
tackling
climate
change
on
a
legal
footing
with
clear
and
practical
steps
towards
Chile,
and
that
is
what
we
should
be
welcoming,
but
I
think
we
cannot
ignore
the
tenor
of
this
debate.
The
calls
to
go
further
and
I
indeed
I
understand
the
government's
caution.
Q
Q
Since
1970
there,
we
seen
an
accelerated
lost
and
polar
ice
caps
and
glaciers
that
that
will
have
the
consequence
of
rising
oceans
and
the
possibility
of
a
catastrophic
snowball
effect
in
terms
of
warming
thawing
releasing
more
rural
greenhouse
gases
that
will
lead
to
a
revocable
climate
change.
So
that's
why
we
need
a
target,
a
challenge
which
we
might
not
know
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
oiled
measure.
Q
Up
to
so
let
me
draw
a
parallel
because
sometimes
the
there
are
political
projects
which
do
exactly
that
in
1962,
JFK
gave
a
groundbreaking
speech
setting
out
an
objective
which
seemed
impossible
and
probable
of
landing
human
beings
on
the
moon,
and
just
seven
years
later
that
was
achieved
and
ever
after.
Of
course,
politicians
have
been
butchering.
Q
Those
quotes
to
their
own
ends
and
I'm
going
to
I'm
afraid
do
exactly
the
same
thing
here,
because
this
is
something
that
we
not
must
do
not
because
just
because
it's
hard,
but
because
it's
a
essential
NetZero
must
be
treated
as
our
moonshot.
We
need
to.
We
have
a
decade
to
reshape
our
economy
and
save
our
environment
and
our
planning
a
planet,
and
we
must
treat
it
with
the
same
level
of
urgency,
imperative
and
collective
effort,
because
failure
simply
isn't
an
option
and
I
think
Paul.
I
was
thinking
about
this
debate
in
preparing
for
it.
Q
Greta
Tim
Berg's
words
rang
in
my
ears
what
she
said
that
the
the
politicians
assembled
at
the
UN
that
you
all
come
to
us
young
people
for
hope.
How
dare
you?
The
reality
is
that
caution
and
pragmatism
and
while
I
understand
that
those
are
the
considerations
of
the
way
that
government
must
be
done
in
normal
times,
and
normal
issues
cannot
be
the
way
that
we
approach
dealing
with
climate
change.
Q
We
have
to
listen
to
the
people
that
we
must
achieve,
not
just
strive
for
Net
Zero
strive
for
75
percent
reduction
by
2030,
not
even
80
percent
reduction
by
those
calls
saying
that
we
must
achieve
Net
Zero
by
2030.
We
must
listen
to
those
and
set
ourselves
the
challenge
of
doing
everything
we
can
towards
that.
So
that
is
the
tenor
that
the
remarks
made
in
this
chamber
this
afternoon
must
have
that's
the
way
in
which
these
criticisms
and
these
observations
must
be
taken
by
the
government
not
to
be
rebuked.
These
aren't
political
points.
Q
In
fact,
I
would
regard
these
as
collective
criticisms,
collective
observations
of
our
collective
failures
to
do
what's
required
in
order
to
tackle
climate
change.
So
this
is
our
imperative.
We
must
play
our
part
as
the
nation
of
coal
and
steel
of
the
locomotives
and
ships
that
were
ushered
in
the
first
wave
of
globalization
on
this
planet.
We
have
a
moral
responsibility
to
do
our
bit
to
tackle
the
climate
change
that
they
ushered
in.
Q
R
You
say
lobster
today
we're
on
the
cusp
of
passing
legislation
that
will
have
a
massive
impact.
The
hugely
ambitious
and
challenging
targets
said
in
this
bill
across
every
sector
in
Scotland
every
business,
every
household,
every
person.
These
targets
are
the
goal
we
cannot
miss
and
the
targets
that
will
commit
to
today
will
require
a
massive
system
and
behavioural
change
to
achieve.
Scotland
will
need
to
change
and
so
much
of
what
we
ask
from
our
government
from
now
on,
mini
to
take
those
targets
in
decade.
R
If
you
want
a
home
which
comes
to
use
materials
lock
up
carbon
instead
of
adding
to
the
carbon
birth
burden,
you
may
only
be
able
to
heat
your
home
by
burning
oil
with
a
big
tank
out
in
the
garden
you
might
live
in
rented
accommodation.
We
have
no
choice
and
how
to
heat
your
home
at
all,
heat
pumps
and
electric
vehicles
are
the
preserve
still
of
the
wealthy,
and
you
can
only
dream
of
such
choice.
R
You
may
want
to
cycle
to
work
there,
given
that
you
don't
live
in
our
cycle
route,
you
can't
take
the
risk
have
been
hit
by
a
car
in
the
dark
winter
mornings.
You
might
want
to
rid
your
home
of
soap
thing
or
use
plastics,
but
the
supermarkets
are
full
of
them
and
even
though
you
recycle
everything
you
can
you
find
yourself
for
2/3
bin
bags
of
mixed
refuse
a
week
that
you
know
what's
going
to
landfill,
so
your
job
and
money
that
you
take
home
to
pay
your
mortgage
and
feed.
R
Your
kids
depends
on
oil
and
gas.
That's
a
lot
of
people
in
my
area
and
you
hear
people
campaigning
to
keep
it
in
the
ground.
But
you
know
that
if
we
do
that
too
soon,
your
city
will
be
a
ghost
town
and
unemployment
would
be
Rafe.
You
only
just
got
a
decent
job
after
losing
one
in
2016,
so
you
have
first-hand
experience
of
what
that's
like
you
want
to.
R
Take
your
skills
and
work
in
an
organization
where
that
would
which
will
be
part
of
a
low-carbon
revolution,
but
they
aren't
happening
as
fast
as
you
talked,
but
where
you
can
change
your
life,
you
do
you
make
all
the
choices
you
can
make
to
reduce
your
carbon
footprint.
You
hold
you
at
home.
Instead
of
flying,
you
modify
your
diet.
You
minimize
your
food
waste.
You
try
to
fix
things
rather
than
replace
them.
You
go
around
the
house,
switching
off
lights
and
turning
down
heating
and
searching
it.
R
Your
children
to
put
jumpers
on,
but
the
big
things
that
you
want
to
do
are
out
with
your
hands.
Those
big
things
are
up
to
us
here
in
this
chamber
and
the
choices
we
urge
the
government
to
make
I
look
forward
to
the
updated
climate
change
plan
will
set
in
place.
What
we
need
to
do
to
achieve
the
aims
of
this
bill
because
we
have
no
option
but
to
achieve
those
aims
and
the
people
of
Scotland
they
do
want
to
play
their
part.
R
Probably
we
opened
our
doors
a
little
wider
than
than
we
actually
had
time
for,
but
I
think
it
was
very
important
to
have
everyone
round
the
table
that
had
a
locust
than
this,
including
the
many
young
activists
from
across
Scotland
who
we
sat
down
around
the
table
with
with
the
international
intergovernmental
pilot
and
climate
change.
We
all
sat
in
the
one
room
and
I'm
very
proud
that
we
did
that
I'm
proud
to
vote
for
a
bill
that
has
these
ambitious
targets,
but
from
tomorrow.
R
M
I
Oh,
thank
you
very
much.
The
2009
climate
change
at
was
off
it's
time
groundbreaking,
but
no
Luke's,
old
fashioned,
because
things
have
moved
so
fast.
Then
the
opposition
party,
my
own
party,
preached
the
Scottish
government
very
hard.
We
ended
up
with
42%.
We
felt
that
was
really
radical
and
I
have
a
sense
of
that
today.
When
we're
going
to
support
the
bill,
that
has
got
a
radical
target
today.
I
know:
Claudia
Beamish
was
up
for
77%.
The
greens
are
up
for
80%,
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
be
in
a
decade.
I
The
point
is
what
we
have
agreed
today
is
not
the
limit
is
the
absolute
lowest.
We
must
reach
over
the
next
decade
and
if
we
can
go
further,
we
should
do
that
and
I.
Think
picking
up
in
the
last
comments
of
just
been
meet
by
Gillian
Martin,
first
to
many
of
our
communities.
They
don't
have
the
choices
we
want
them
to
have.
They
don't
have
their
little
carbon
present
that
they
need
and
they
should
have
the
right
to
have.
I
That's
something
that
needs
to
be
focused
on
as
well,
and
it
can
be
empowering
so
I
think,
there's
an
agreement
across
the
chamber
that
we
have
a
climate
emergency.
It's
not
global
warming.
It's
not
climate
change
that
we
will
get
Rome
to
tack
on
at
some
point.
It
is
something
we
need
to
tackle
now
we
can
see.
Even
in
this
year
the
lives
are
being
lost
and
the
climate
refugees
are
being
created,
so
Scotland
will
need
to
step
up
to
the
plate.
I
Colleagues
have
rightly
quoted
from
IPCC
report
today
and
also
the
work
of
the
UK
climate
change
commission.
This
bill
is
important,
but
it
is
not
the
end.
It
has
no
got
to
be
the
start
of
the
next
push
to
make
sure
that
we
really
delivered
and
climate
change,
and
we
have
to
think
about
how
we
accelerate
our
investment
in
climate
resilience,
as
well
as
climate
change.
I
We've
even
had
fires
this
year
in
Scotland
places
like
Scotland
and
Siberia
having
fires
of
gone
out
of
control
is
unthinkable,
so
it
is
an
emergency
and
there
is
a
powerful
call
for
action
to
us.
Today.
Last
week
in
Edinburgh
we
had
20,000
young
people
marching
in
the
city
across
the
globe.
We've
seen
the
next
generation,
but
they
are
challenging
us.
The
the
placard
I
remember
from
Edinburgh
was,
you
will
die
of
old
age.
We
will
die
of
climate
change,
we
need
to
act
now.
I
We
need
to
act
together
and
we
need
to
compete
with
each
other
to
make
sure
that
we
push
each
other
further,
but
we've
also
sometimes
got
to
work
together
and
I
particularly
want
to
thank
the
climate
change
coalition
in
Scotland.
All
of
their
members
or
constituent
members
of
the
public
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the.
I
N
You
deputy
presiding
officer
and
to
clear
an
unchaste
as
a
member
of
the
NF
US
and
as
a
partner
and
a
former
farmer
farming
business,
and
please
do
the
closing
for
the
Scottish
Conservatives
in
the
final
stages
of
what
I
believe
is
the
most
important
bail
that
this
current
Parliament
will
pass.
And
now
that
this
bill
has
been
strengthened
through
committee
amendments
of
stage
two
and
test
AIDS
stage.
N
Three
amendments
I
believe
that
this
legislation
will
be
the
springboard
to
ensure
that
Scotland
continues
to
lead
the
way
on
tackling
climate
change
now
and
in
the
future.
But
also
importantly,
the
bail
recognizes
and
goes
some
way
in
addressing
the
pressures
that
these
targets
will
place
on
individuals
and
businesses
across
Scotland.
And
despite
the
narrative
from
some
climate
change
activists.
N
As
a
member
of
the
clear
committee,
we
have
been
and
continued
to
lesson
with
lesson
were
listening
to
a
broad
spectrum
of
experts,
organisation
and
intergenerational
panels,
to
understand
the
measures
we
need
and
are
able
to
take.
The
committee
took
almost
25
hours
of
evidence
and
spent
20
hours
deliberating
its
reports.
N
This
bill
will
ensure
that
the
government
policies
will
know
how
to
start
to
deliver
the
Committee
on
climate
change
outlined
how
Scotland
can
go
faster
and
further
and
achieving
net
zero
emissions
and
I
support
the
principle
that
we
need
to
go
further
and
faster
for
the
good
of
both
the
economy
and
the
global
environment.
So
I
feel
understand
the
demands
from
many
organizations
and
indeed
some
msps
to
say,
enter
them
targets
of
80
percent
for
2030.
N
But
we
must
now
ignore
the
importance
of
an
evidence-based
and
realistic
approach
and
that
the
realistic
approach
favors
an
emission
reduction
target
which
is
75%
lower
than
the
baseline
over
the
next
decade.
We
cannot
and
should
not
set
targets
for
emission
reductions
that
are
not
achievable,
not
sustainable
and
not
believable.
It
is
research
and
science
that
are
showing
us
that
there
is
indeed
a
climate
change
emergency,
and
it
must
be
research
and
science
that
leads
us
to
the
right
policies
to
address
that
emergency.
N
Well,
let
me
be
clear
by
setting
a
more
ambitious
interim
target
for
2030,
but
not
throwing
our
agricultural
industry
under
a
BOTS
siliceous
to
deliver
the
more
ambitious
75%
target
will
be
focused
and
a
combination
coming
from
all
sectors,
including
industry
transport,
each
doing
what
it
can
as
Stevenson
touched
on
earlier.
The
impact
on
agriculture
and
environment
has
been
badly
must
represented.
N
Most
concern
me
much
of
that
misrepresentation
has
emanated
from
our
mainstream
media
sources,
seriously,
misrepresenting
the
IPCC
reports
naively
and
somewhat
lazily,
applying
its
finding
findings
almost
exclusively
to
the
UK
on
a
rather
than
on
a
global
basis
and
on
what
it
was
intended.
I
can
assure
you
that,
as
a
meat-eating
nation,
the
best
way
to
address
global
climate
change
is
not
to
introduce
policies
to
put
a
livestock
farmers
out
of
business,
and
it's
important
to
be
aware
that
Scotland
is
not
so
self-sufficient
in
beef.
N
So
it's
crucial
the
way
we
don't
displace
meat
production
to
countries
with
pure
environmental
credentials
but
ensure
that
we
eat
meat.
That
is
always
high-quality
grocery
of
Scotch
beef
and
lamb
throughout
the
process.
John
Scott
and
I
have
a
continually
enforced
that
message
and
I'm
delighted
to
see
whether
amendment
such
as
the
nitrogen
balance
sheet.
We
now
have
the
opportunity
to
recognize
the
hugely
significant
contribution
Scottish
farmers
make
in
tackling
climate
change
right
here
right
now
and
with
improved
knowledge,
transfer
and
support
that
contribution
can
be
further
improved
in
the
future.
N
Belle
has
made
its
way
through
my
committee
and
ultimately
today
and
the
chamber
when
we
vote,
this
generation
needs
to
get
it
right
and
get
it
right
right
now
for
future
generations.
The
Scottish,
conservative
and
unionist
welcome
that
this
bill
has
been
strengthened
as
its
progressed
through
the
register
process
and
presiding
officer
were
confident
that
it
lays
the
foundations
for
a
climate
change
plan
which
will
support
innovation,
create
jobs
and
utilize
technology
as
well.
Addressing
the
undeniable
climate
change
emergency
that
we
face.
Thank.
B
You
presiding
officer
and
I,
say
I'm
grateful
to
members
across
the
chamber
for
they're,
mostly
helpful
and
constructive
contributions
to
the
debate
today.
I
think
I'm
right
in
saying
that
all
members
who
lodged
amendments
have
had
at
least
some
successes:
Morris
golden
Claudia,
Beamish
mark
Roscoe
and
Angus
McDonald.
The
government
has
continuously
sought
consensus
through
this
bill.
We
are
facing
a
global
climate
emergency
and
we
must
all
work
together
to
tackle
this.
B
It
is
my
strong
hope
that
the
bill
can
now
achieve
the
same
cross-party
support
that
the
2009
Act
has
enjoyed
and
which
I
believe
has
contributed
significantly
to
its
subsequent
success
and
Claudia
Beamish
has
returned
repeatedly
to
the
question
of
putting
a
just
transition
Commission
into
legislation.
I
do
need
to
remind
her
that
we
are
still
the
only
country
in
the
world
that
actually
has
a
just
transition
Commission.
It
is
up
and
running
and
it
is
working
hard
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
times
I
have
already
explained
to
her.
B
Why
we
are
not
inclined
to
put
it
on
a
statutory
basis.
I
will
try
again.
It
would
cost
at
least
seven
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
pounds
to
set
up
by
way
of
comparison.
The
annual
contribution
we
make
to
the
Committee
on
climate
change
is
a
mere
three
hundred
thousand
pounds
and
I
really
have
to
say
that
it
is
for
her
to
make
the
case
of
the
value
that
putting
on
a
statutory
basis
whoo
dad,
don't
think
that
case
has
been
made.
B
I
very
much
regret
the
tone
I'm
going
to
move
on,
because
I
need
to
get
through
quite
a
bit
and
I
very
much
regret
the
tone
of
Mark
Russell's
intervention.
For
goodness
sakes.
This
is
the
strongest
toughest
legislation
of
anywhere
in
the
world.
I
find
it
extraordinary
that
the
Green
Party
members
appear
to
be
contemplating
not
supporting
this
bill,
which
does
set
the
most
ambitious
statutory
targets
of
any
country
in
the
world
and
includes
many
of
their
own
proposals.
B
No
amendments
were
lodged
at
stage
3
to
propose
any
changes
to
the
net
zero
emissions
target
date
or
the
2020
target
or
the
2040
target.
It
appears
that
the
sole
sticking
point
is
the
exact
level
of
the
2030
target,
where
the
Scottish
government
has
today
gone
even
further
and
adopted
a
target
of
75%.
To
be
absolutely
clear,
is
75
percent
target
exceeds
what
is
needed
globally
over
the
next
decade
to
limit
warming
to
1.5
degrees
and
no
other
country?
B
Even
recognized
leaders
such
as
Sweden
has
set
a
higher
target
in
law
for
that
year,
and
it
is
the
case
that
our
focus
must
no
shift
to
delivery.
The
Scottish
government
will
now
update
our
current
climate
change
plan
in
light
of
the
debate
here
today.
The
update
will
draw
on
the
many
new
and
emboldened
initiatives
that
have
already
been
announced
since
the
first
ministers
declaration
of
a
global
climate
emergency,
and
these
include
a
bold
package
of
measures
on
low-carbon
transport,
including
investing
500
million
pounds
to
improve
bus
services.
B
A
range
of
actions
to
maximize
the
potential
of
every
part
of
Scotland's
land
to
contribute
to
the
fight
against
climate
change,
with
increased
funding
for
people,
restoration
and
even
more
ambitious
tree
planting
targets,
we
will
create
an
agricultural
transformation
program
that
reduces
emissions
while
focusing
on
sustainability,
simplicity,
profitability,
innovation,
inclusion
and
productivity,
and
there
are
a
lot
more
up
to
and
including
the
introduction
of
a
new
deposit
return
system
and
as
ambitious
as
these
actions
are.
I
am
under
no
illusion
that
they
will
be
sufficient.
B
The
second
half
of
Scotland's
journey
to
debt,
zero
emissions
will
undoubtedly
require
different
and,
in
many
cases,
much
more
difficult
choices
than
has
been
the
case
to
date,
and
all
of
us
here
will
need
to
step
up
our
willingness
to
make
these
decisions.
If
the
targets
are
to
be
met,
no
one
should
be
at
any
doubt
of
the
Scottish
Government's
commitment
to
using
all
policy
levers
at
our
disposal
to
rise
to
this
challenge.
But
I
could
remind
everybody
as
I
have
earlier
today
when
providing
its
advice
on
targets
in
May.
B
The
CCC
were
absolutely
clear
that
Scotland
cannot
deliver
net
zero
emissions
by
2045
through
devolved
policy
alone.
So
it's
welcome.
The
UK
government
has
followed
our
lead
to
legislate
for
a
net
zero
target.
Uky
delivery
policies,
however,
must
also
no
ramp
up
significantly
presiding
officer.
Scotland
is
already
recognized
as
a
world
leader
in
tackling
climate
change,
but
the
tiny
UN
climate
talks
come
to
Glasgow
in
the
late
to
an
inlay
2020.
We
will
have
an
even
stronger
message
with
which
to
welcome
the
international
community
to
Scotland.
B
We
will
have
the
most
stringent
framework
of
statutory
targets
of
any
country
in
the
world
and
all
of
us
today,
whatever
we
think,
should
be
proud
of
that
and
support
this
bill.
The
bill
before
us
maintains
and
strengthens
Scotland's
place
at
the
very
forefront
of
global
efforts.
To
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
bring
emissions
down
and
I
am
very
proud
to
have
moved
the
motion.
A
Thank
you
very
much
cabinet
secretary.
That
concludes
our
stage
three
debate
on
the
climate
change
bill.
The
next
item
of
business
is
consideration
of
business
motion:
1
9
0
for
7,
in
the
name
of
cream
d,
on
behalf
of
the
bureau,
it's
a
day
of
the
business
program
calling
grim
day
to
move
this
motion
move
and
no
one
in
this
motion.
The
question,
therefore,
is
that
motion
1,
9,
0
4
7,
be
agreed.
Are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed.
A
The
next
item
is
consideration
of
business
motion:
1
9,
0,
5
4,
also
in
the
name
of
Graham
Dean
behalf
the
bureau
and
its
tip
on
the
stage
one
timetable
for
a
bill
could
I
call
on
grim
day
to
move
this
motion
move.
Thank
you
very
much
and
again,
no
one
wishes
to
speak
on
this
motion.
The
question
therefore,
is
that
motion
1
9,
0
5
4
be
agreed.
Are
we
all
agreed?
We
are
agreed.
The
next
item
is
consideration
of
problem
in
chibuto
motion:
one
nine,
zero.
A
Four,
nine
on
approval
of
an
SSI
could
I
ask
you
empty
and
perhaps
the
view
to
move
this
motion
move
decision
time.
The
next
item
is
consideration
of
six
parliamentary
buta
motions.
Could
ask
PMD
about
the
bureau
to
move
motions,
one
nine
zero,
four,
eight
and
one
nine
zero;
five,
eight:
five:
zero
on
approval
of
an
SSI
one,
nine
zero,
five,
one
on
committee
meeting
times,
one
nine
zero;
five:
two
on
committee
membership,
one
nine
zero;
five,
three
on
substitution
on
committees
and
one
nine
zero.
A
Nine
five
on
designation
of
a
lead
committee
moves
a
mob.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
put
all
these
decision
time
to
which
we
now
come
and
the
first
question
that
decision
time.
2D
is
there
motion
one
nine
zero:
two:
five
in
the
name
of
Rosanna
cunning
Cunningham
on
the
climate
change,
emissions
reduction
targets,
Scotland
billet
stage,
DB
agreed
and
members
should
cast
their
votes
now.
A
A
A
The
result
of
the
vote
on
motion
1
9
0
for
9
in
the
name
of
PMD,
is
yes
89.
There
were
no
votes
against.
There
were
28
abstentions.
The
motion
is
therefore
agreed
and
I
propose
to
ask
a
single
question
on
the
6th
parliamentary
buta
motions.
Does
anyone
object?
That's
good.
The
question
is
the
motions
one:
nine
zero:
four,
eight
one:
nine:
zero:
five:
zero
one:
nine
zero,
five
one,
one:
nine
zero:
five:
two
one:
nine
zero:
five,
three
and
one
nine
zero
nine
five
be
agreed.
Are
we
all
agreed
we
are
agreed?