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A
The
final
lines
for
businesses
are
members,
business
debate
or
motion
one
six,
six:
three:
seven
name
of
Claudia
B
Michonne
towards
an
independent
Palestinian
state,
a
Scottish
proposal.
This
debate
will
be
concluded
without
any
questions.
Being
put.
You
can
ask
those
members
who
wish
to
take
part
in
the
debate
to
press
their
request
to
speak
buttons,
no
Nicole
and
Claudia
Beamish
to
open
the
debate.
Mr.
Beamish,
please
Thank.
B
You
presiding
officer
I
am
saddened
to
have
to
bring
my
motion
to
the
chamber
this
afternoon,
but
relieved
that
this
opportunity
has
been
created
to
debate
the
grave
situation
created
for
the
people
of
Palestine
and
commit
to
supporting
a
just
way
forward,
one
which
benefits
Palestinians
and
Israelis
alike.
I.
Thank
my
colleagues
who
have
signed
the
motion
for
debate.
B
We
must
first
remember
the
historic
conditions
that
made
it
happen:
the
roots
of
conflict,
conflict
date
back
to
the
late
19th
century,
when
Palestine
was
still
part
of
the
Ottoman
Empire
and
Jewish
nationalism,
political
Zionism,
developed
in
Europe,
largely
in
response
to
the
programs
in
the
Russian
Empire.
We
should
never
forget
either
the
century-long
history
of
virulent
anti-semitism
throughout
Christian
Europe
in
1917.
B
A
statement
from
the
UK
government,
formerly
known
as
the
Balfour
Declaration,
largely
driven
by
strategic
wartime
considerations,
turned
an
aspiration
of
establishing
a
Jewish
state
in
Palestine
from
an
idealistic
and
unrealistic
vision
into
a
possibility,
as
Britain
publicly
pledged
to
establish
a
national
home
for
the
Jewish
people
in
Palestine.
It
is
worth
remembering
that
at
that
time
there
was
600,000
Arabs
and
only
55,000
Jews
living
there,
most
of
whom
were
indigenous
and
religious,
non
scientists
Arabic
speaking
in
the
Jewish
community
in
Palestine,
oh
and
less
than
3%
of
the
land.
B
B
Sadly,
and
shamefully,
as
we
are
all
aware,
that
still
is
Sora
feel
emotional
about
this.
If,
if
we
were
only
able
to
find
a
solution,
then
we
wouldn't
have
had
to
wait
70
years
and
surely
we
must
find
one
now
past
British
responsibilities
that
still
provokes
present
injustice
demands,
British
involvement
to
work
urgently
for
a
safe,
brighter
future
for
all
the
people
in
Israel
and
Palestine.
Only
by
seeking
and
achieving
equality
of
rights,
peaceful
coexistence
between
the
citizens
of
Israel
and
Palestine
and
the
right
to
self-determination
equally
exercised.
Can
there
be
a
lasting
security.
B
A
lasting
security
of
one
people
does
not
come
by
suppressing
the
rights
of
the
other
to
achieve
these
universal
values
that
Britain
helped
incorporate
into
international
law.
My
motion
calls
for
six
measures
to
be
taken
proposed
by
the
balfour
project
and
end
the
closure
of
Gaza,
which
I
visited
in
2011
with
my
friend
and
colleague,
John
Finnie,
and
what
we
witnessed
then
has
tragically
deteriorated
further
for
those
struggling
to
bring
up
children,
their
true
freedom
of
worship
for
all
believers,
Jews,
Muslims
and
Christians.
B
At
their
holy
sites,
it
is
Jerusalem,
is
occupied,
Palestinian
territory
and
like
the
rest
of
the
West,
Bank
and
Gaza,
and
this
is
a
Palestinian
state
of
which
I
speak
today.
Respect
for
the
rule
of
law,
the
whole
Israeli
settler
enterprise
is
indeed
illegal
in
relation
to
the
Fourth
Geneva
Convention.
B
Furthermore,
the
International
Court
of
Justice
issued
an
advisory
opinion
regarding
the
legality
of
the
Israeli
war
in
the
West
Bank
concluding
them
all
is
contrary
to
international
law,
for
accountability
and
consequences
for
whoever
is
responsible
for
continuously
breaking
international
law
without
fear
or
favor,
and
five
recognition
by
the
UK
government
and
other
European
states
of
the
state
of
Palestine
alongside
Israel.
In
order
for
this
to
happen,
in
my
view,
we
need
a
Labour
government
and
the
Scottish,
Government
I'm
sure
will
be
working
for
this
as
well.
B
Six,
the
UK
government
commitment
to
defend
the
fundamental
rights
of
both
peoples,
free
legitimate
movement
of
goods
and
people
from
between
Gaza
and
West
Bank,
is
just
one
of
these.
In
the
Balfour
Declaration,
the
British
government
pledged
to
protect
the
rights
of
the
existing
Arab
population
and,
alas,
we
have
broken
our
promise.
The
moment
is
now
to
show
our
support
in
the
diarist
of
times
with
a
toxic
mix
of
the
Israeli
government's
deeply
concerning
politically
military
activity
and
the
profoundly
detrimental
Trump
administration.
In
two
weeks,
the
people
of
Israel
will
vote
in
a
general
election.
B
Prime
Minister
Netanyahu
seeks
the
votes
of
Israeli
settlers
by
promising
to
annex
the
legal
settlements
such
a
step
itself
illegal
poses,
in
my
view,
an
existential
threat
to
the
policy
of
two
states
and
equal
rights
advocated
by
the
British
government
and
the
UK.
Sorry,
the
EU
recognition
of
Palestine
and
Palestinian
rights
is
the
right
way
to
preempt
and
even
prevent
that
very
real
threat.
B
Make
no
mistake:
annexation
is
actually
a
threat
to
the
well-being
of
both
people's
for
if
there
were
not
to
be
two
states
that
would
affect
to
be
one
state
one
tower
tragically,
that
state
would
be
an
apartheid
state.
I
am
an
optimist.
I
still
believe
there
can
be
peaceful
coexistence
through
mutual
recognition
and
parallel
self-determination,
but
history
teaches
us
that
this
conflict
cannot
be
resolved
by
the
two
parties
by
themselves.
The
disparity
on
power
is
too
great
between
them.
B
That
is
why
I
say
what
we
do
here
and
what
we
say
matters
we
can
act
or
we
can
simply
watch
I
say
we
must
act
together
for
the
good
of
all.
Recognition
of
Palestine
along
with
Israel,
does
not
deal
Edyta,
mais
Israel.
It
takes
nothing
away
from
Israel
which
belongs
to
Israel;
rather,
it
serves
to
confirm
Israel's
borders
and
her
security.
It
also
serves
to
establish
Palestine's
borders
and
her
security
and
affirms
the
equal
rights
of
two
peoples
in
statehood
each
in
their
own
country.
B
Finally,
it
is
my
belief
and
I
hope
the
chamber
will
agree
today
that
we
must
acknowledge
the
profound
challenges
ahead
and
I.
Ask
today
that
we
reaffirm
the
commitment
of
this
Parliament
to
adjust
solution
for
the
Palestinian
and
Israeli
peoples,
acknowledging
the
work
of
the
Balfour
project
and
committing
to
working
to
help
make
the
six
measures
I
have
highlighted
today
a
reality
Thank
You.
C
The
Claudia
Beamish
quite
rightly
said
about
the
history
of
Palestine
and
I've,
always
been
a
great
believer
as
of
many
others
that
you
can't
look
to
your
future.
If
you
really
don't
know
about
your
past
and
Claudia
gave
us
a
very
detailed
issue
and
content
of
the
past
of
what
has
happened
to
the
Palestinian
people
and
to
the
Middle
East
as
well,
so
I
won't
dwell
on
all
of
that.
C
There
we
know
about
the
British
Mandate
as
Claudia
had
mentioned,
and
we
know
about
the
Balfour
Declaration
promised
to
establish
in
Palestine
a
national
home
for
the
Jewish
people,
essentially
vowing,
to
give
away
a
country
that
was
not
theirs
or
ours
to
give
away.
And
hence
this
is
what
happens
since
so,
let's
get
was
actually
47.
C
The
British
government
knows
me
behind
in
Palestine
over
to
the
United
Nations,
as
Claudia
domitius
said,
November
29th
1947,
the
UN
adopted
resolution
181,
recommending
the
petition
of
Palestine
to
Jewish
and
Arab
states
the
special
international
status
for
the
city
of
Jerusalem.
We
must
remember
that
that
was
a
UN
statement
and
will
have
Trump
and
we
have
what
I
would
say
a
toothless
UN.
C
When
you
see
the
state
of
the
West
Bank
and
Gaza
and
the
City
of
Jerusalem
know
as
well
and
it's
timely
that
we
need
to
act
now,
the
proposals
then
were
not
acceptable.
They
went
against
the
principles
of
self-determination
and
imposed
conditions
on
the
Palestinian
people,
which
were
absolutely
unworkable
and,
as
is
today,
there
still
unworkable
as
well
but,
as
I
said,
I
think
and
I
think
others
do.
You
need
to
know
your
past,
where
you.
D
C
C
But
for
myself
and
many
many
others,
it's
the
only
viable
option
open
to
us,
no
not
just
to
us,
but
the
Palestinian
people
as
well,
particularly
people
are
unpleasant
in
Gaza
the
largest
open
air
present
in
the
world,
and
that
cannot
be
just
as
that
cannot
be
right
and
we,
as
a
parliament,
Riaan
Scotland
as
well.
We
can't
continue
to
burning
our
heads
in
the
sand
it's
time
for
that
us
the
UK
to
join
with
other
un
members
who
do
recognize
the
state
of
Palestine.
C
It's
time
that
the
police
use
government
UK
government
recognised
the
state
of
Palestine,
and
if
we
in
this
Parliament
recognised
the
state
of
Palestine
that
sends
a
huge
message
not
just
to
UN.
It
sends
a
hue
message
throughout
the
world
from
attainment
administered
Palestine
until
it
was
abandoned
in
1948.
C
Our
possession
in
Palestine
has
really
really
been
quite
shameful.
We
do
support
and
we
do
support
any
UN
efforts,
as
I
said
before.
I
think
that
was
target,
unfortunately,
for
a
two-state
solution,
and
it's
something
that
we
have
to
do
is
tame
for
action.
Both
talked
enough
about
it,
it's
time
for
action,
so
fully
support
the
motion
put
forward
by
Claudia
Beamish
and
my
other
college
have
supported
also
and
I.
Just
put
the
six
majors
mentioned
in
the
motion:
Thank
You,
presiding
officer.
Thank.
E
You
presiding
officer
first,
let
me
thank
Claudia
Beamish
for
bringing
forward
this.
This
debate,
I
visited
Israel
and
the
West
Bank
twice
most
recent
time
being
summer
2018
as
part
of
the
building
bridges
with
Israel
cross-party
group
trip
that
was
organized
for
msps,
as
has
been
outlined
by
colleagues,
the
Israel
Palestine
issue
has
been
a
prominent
conflict
and
international
arena
for
decades
and
since
2005,
when,
despite
Israeli
disengagement
from
the
Gaza
Strip
Palestinian
terrorist
group,
Hamas
won
control
of
the
strip
and
deposed
the
Palestinian
Authority
in
a
violent
coup.
E
Now
there
let
me
get
on
a
little
bit,
I.
Think
with
my
my
points.
Thank
you.
There
are
six
measures
mentioned
in
the
motion
and
I
will
attempt
to
touch
on
each
of
these.
During
my
my
speech.
First,
an
end
to
the
closure
of
Gaza
in
2005
Israel,
unilaterally
disengaged
from
the
Gaza
Strip
and
dismantled
all
its
settlements
there.
This
could
have
been
a
victory
for
the
Palestinians,
but
instead
in
the
year
following
Hamas,
won
control
over
the
Gaza
Strip
and
deposed
the
Palestinian
Authority
in
a
coup.
E
E
You
presiding
officer,
second,
true,
freedom
of
worship
for
all
believers,
Jewish
Muslim
and
Christian
at
their
holy
sites
in
Jerusalem,
which
must
be
the
shared
capital
of
two
states.
The
religious
freedom
and
religious
holidays
are
enshrined
by
constitutional
legislation
in
Israel.
Freedom
of
access
and
worship
is
ensured
at
all
sites,
and
that's
certainly
what
I
saw
when
I
was
there.
These
facts
are
perhaps
unsurprising
as
Israel
has
consistently
ranked
as
the
freest
country
in
the
Middle
East.
E
These
facts
stands
in
stark
contrast
to
the
West
Bank
in
Gaza
when
it
comes
to
holy
peace
places,
Jews
have
little
to
no
access
to
religious
sites
in
the
West
Bank.
Third,
respect
for
the
rule
of
law
and
body,
din,
UN
Security,
Council
resolutions.
Israel
has
accepted
UN,
Security
Council
resolution
242
and
made
peace
with
both
Egypt
and
Jordan,
based
on
it.
In
both
instances,
Israel
returned
land
for
peace
and
operate.
Our
bruited
Israeli
settled
Ezreal
has
in
fact
offered
blueprints
for
a
two-state
solution
between
itself
and
the
Palestinians,
but
was
rejected
by
the
Palestinians.
E
Fourth:
accountability
and
serious
consequences
for
breaking
international
law.
The
High
Court
of
Justice
of
Israel
is
renowned
worldwide
for
its
judicial
independence
and
it
has
ruled
many
times
against
Israeli
government
decisions.
In
the
meantime,
Hamas
violates
international
humanitarian
law
by
targeting
civilians
with
its
missiles
using
its
own
civilians,
including
children
as
human
shields,
and
hiding
its
Arsenal's
in
heavily
populated
areas,
including
schools,
Firth
UK
government
commitment
to
defend
fundamental
rights
of
both
peoples,
including
their
right
to
security.
E
No
I'm
just
want
to
get
my
points
made.
Thank
you.
People
who
care
about
the
fundamental
rights
of
both
peoples
too
often
ignore
those
human
rights
violations
of
Palestinians
by
Palestinians,
despite
being
legally
mandated,
no
national
elections
have
taken
place
in
the
Palestinian
territories.
Since
2006
Mahmood
Abbas
was
elected
president
of
the
National
Authority
in
January
2005
for
a
four-year
term
ending
in
2009,
the
last
elections
to
the
Palestinian
Legislative
Council
were
held
in
January
2006.
The
Palestinian
people,
therefore,
are
prevented
from
choosing
their
representatives
by
their
own
leadership.
E
Finally,
a
key
issue
is
that
a
recognition
by
the
UK
government
and
European
partners
of
the
State
of
Palestine,
alongside
Israel,
recognizing
a
Palestinian
state
without
it,
arising
from
direct
negotiations
between
the
two
parties,
will
harm
the
peace
process
and
drive
the
Palestinians
away
from
the
negotiating
table.
It
will
reward
the
Palestinians
for
their
rejection,
ISM
and
eliminate
any
incentive
they
have
to
compromise
and
key
issues
that
are
critical
in
the
negotiations.
E
F
Question
of
Palestine
is
the
story
of
people
without
a
land,
in
fact
of
the
land
and
very
a
very
violent
struggle.
It
is
a
simple
story
of
colonial
dispossession
and
ethnic
cleansing.
Some
people,
like
the
woman,
don't
want
to
recognize
the
historical
and
recorded
facts
on
the
history
of
Palestine,
because
you
need
and
want
to
create
a
narrative
to
defend
the
Israel
that
you
saw
and
clearly
you
didn't
see
anything
mr.
Wolman
of
the
brittle
elements
of
the
occupation,
which
has
now
been
53
years,
the
longest
military
occupation
in
history,
the.
F
No
hope
for
the
Palestinians,
no
hope
for
a
future
and
20
years
of
peace
talks
tons.
I
I
think
to
be
a
sham.
Interestingly,
mr.
boomin,
who
blames
a
Palestinian
leadership
I
met
with
members
of
the
Knesset
I,
was
an
observer
in
the
election,
and
some
of
the
members
were
good
enough
to
admit
that
they
deliberately
humiliated
Yasser
Arafat,
who
laid
down
arms
an
order
to
provide
a
peaceful
solution
for
the
Palestinians
and
the
people,
rightly
or
wrongly,
water
for
Hamas
in
2006.
F
So
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
Palestinian
leadership
do
always
a
reason
not
to
grant
them
their
state,
but
the
state
that
we
talk
about
as
a
state
of
occupation
and
day
and
daily
a
children
are
shot
in
the
street
for
throwing
stones.
In
fact,
interestingly,
it
was
the
Jewish
leader,
Henry
stickmin
who's.
The
former
head
of
the
American
Jewish
Congress,
said
that
as
fielder
as
preventing
a
Palestinian
state,
he
said
millions
of
Palestinians
live
any
subservient
position
without
rights,
without
security
without
hope
and
without
a
future.
F
Palestinians
only
want
the
seemed,
as
is
really
Jews
want,
as
you
would
expect.
I'm
actually
proud
that
a
libre
government
has
said
that
if
he
got
to
Peres
daily
would
recognize
that
Palestine
is
an
independent,
sovereign
state.
I
understand
that
as
also
SNP
policy.
In
fact,
a
hundred
and
thirty-eight
countries
have
recognized
the
Palestine
as
an
independent,
sovereign
state
and
one
in
her
talk
about
the
action
taken
against
children
and
the
occupation,
arrested
and
detained
it's
underway
and
I
who
were,
and
so
one.
F
If
you
remember
many
years
ago,
a
child
which
we
may
age
three
years
old
was
detained
by
the
IDF
for
throwing
stones.
Children
are
interrogated
taken
from
their
parents
during
the
night
and
their
parents
are
presented
with
documentation
in
Hebrew
that
they
cannot
understand.
There
are
adult
adolescents
locked
in
Israeli
jails,
where
we
don't
know
where
they
are.
Their
families
have
not
heard
from
them
for
ten
and
fifteen
years.
Is
this
the
kind
of
issue
that
really
you
want
to
defend
and
I?
F
Some
law
has
left
hurts
all
of
the
mas
peace,
and
he
says
it's
a
Christian
woman
in
the
history
of
the
Palestine,
as
Raekwon's
like
not
just
for
Palestinians,
but
for
his
release
to
the
incumbent
is
really
play
ministers
facing
an
election
which
he
openly
advocates,
ISIL
that
against
the
two-state
solution,
which
has
British
foreign
policy,
conservative
policy,
labor
policy,
liberal
policy
and
war
US
policy.
Until
very,
very
recently,
as
Katya
Beamish
says,
the
unit
has
the
UK
has
a
unique
and
historic
responsibility.
F
The
Balfour
Declaration
was
clear
in
the
creation
of
the
State
of
Israel,
the
rights
of
the
indigenous
population
were
to
be
protected.
No
such
thing
has
happened
in
the
last
five
decades.
The
only
way
for
peace
in
the
region
is
to
recognize
the
Israel
must
be
challenged
to
draw
back
from
its
occupation,
which
is
illegal
and
get
around
the
table
and
create
an
independent
Palestinian
state
after
you
believe
in
any
kind
of
fairness,
that's
what
your
support
I.
G
Please
do
thank
you
very
much
indeed,
save
no
for
seven
can
I
start
by
congratulating
my
friend
and
colleague.
Claudia
be
much
as
ever.
An
excellent
speech,
and
one
of
the
phrases
are
noted
from
her
speech
was
her
just
way
forward
and
I
would
hope.
I
would
hope
that
we
would
all
be
up
for
that.
I
really
would
certainly
ambassador
some,
but
and
his
letter
to
all
of
us
talks
about
living
in
peace,
equality,
freedom
and
with
the
ability
to
enjoy
the
basic
right
of
self-determination,
along
with
the
other
peoples
of
this
world.
G
No
I
have
to
say
I.
Do
that's
not
radical,
that's
mainstream
thinking,
that
is,
there
is
nothing
there's
nothing
off-the-wall
about
that.
That
is
the
fundamental
basis
of
liberal
democracies,
of
international
law,
of
basic
humanitarian
norms
and
I.
You
know
putting
mr.
moment
I
understand
that
you
didn't
want
to
accept
a
interventions.
G
This
is
a
debate,
is
about
discussing
I,
don't
know
the
source
of
some
of
your
information
there,
but
you
know
if
I
quite
often
and
we've
spoken
in
these
countless
debates
and
if
there's
frustration
and
people's
voices
this,
because
we
asked
frustrated
I'm
weary
of
seeing
the
same
things,
how
condemn
violence
from
any
quarter?
Are
you
mr.
Boorman,
prepared
to
condemn
violence
from
any
quarter?
G
No,
no
you're,
not
you're,
not
shaking
your
head
and
they're
there
they're
there
there's
the
problem
with
this,
because
this
isn't
a
contest.
If
this
is
how
it's
viewed,
this
is
not
a
contest
of
equals.
This
is
a
heavily
armed
and
in
apartheid
regime
and
in
every
term
of
international
law.
This
would
be
how
it
and
I
see
mr.
Mountain
screw
his
face
up.
That
is
the
terminology.
That's
exactly
the
same
terminology
that
we'd
applied
to
the
oppressive
regime
in
South
Africa
and,
thank
goodness,
was
progressed
from
there.
No,
we
only
progressed
by
having
discussions.
G
H
I,
take
very
grave
exception
to
anyone
that
says
that
anyone
should
be
promoting
or
accepting
violence
on
on
any
side
and
I.
Think
the
first
thing
and
I
accept
the
point
you
made
mr.
Finney
that
must've
been
a
I.
Take
the
point
you
made
that
the
first
thing
to
do
is
for
both
sides
to
disengage:
stop
fighting,
stop
firing
bullets
eat
each
other
and
stop
killing
each
other.
Now,
once
that
happens,
then
we
can
move
forward.
H
A
G
Apologies
to
mr.
mountains,
you
know
the
paramedics
that
are
short
and
targeted
at
these
protests.
They
are
not
shooting
at
anyone:
the
journalists,
the
photographic
journalists
who
are
covering
these
demonstrations
and
that's
what
they
are:
the
right
to
free
assembly
that
affright
text
based
opinion.
They
are
putting
a
threat
to
no
one
they're,
posing
a
threat
to
no
one,
so
I
have
to
say
I've
immediately
run
ahead
of
time.
I
had
something
of
a
speech
prepared
here
and
I
wanted
to
save
some
well-crafted
emotion
that
laid
out
I
I
thought
in
a
very
balanced
way.
G
A
number
of
things
very
briefly:
Britain
has
a
historic
responsibility.
It
is
very
well-placed
to
bring
about
engagement,
that
engagement,
isn't
selling
arms,
that
engagement
isn't
turning
a
blind
eye
to
the
latest
atrocity
or
having
no
comment
to
make
it's
very,
very
important
that
we
promote
the
universal
values
that
it
says
here.
Button
helped
enshrine:
when
did
it
help
and
strain
these?
G
It
helped
and
strain
these
at
the
conclusion
of
the
Second
World
War,
so
that
there
were
no
repetition,
no
repetition
of
enclosed
enclaves
with
people
under
attack,
as
we
have
in
the
biggest
prison
in
the
world,
which
is
going
to
be
uninhabitable
in
a
year
in
according
to
the
UN.
So
you
know,
collective
punishment
is
illegal
and
that's
what's
happening.
I
think
that
we
all
need
to,
and
it's
important
that
we
engage
in
this
chamber
to
there,
because
what
little
influence
it
may
feel.
G
We
have
I
know
that
the
Scottish
Government
do
and
I
commend
the
efforts
and
and
and
and
and
their
willingness
to,
engage
in
this
and
to
raise
this
internationally
I
think
that
is
very,
very
important.
You
know
we
must
bring
about
a
situation
with
our
children
that
we
saw
Claudia
and
I
clothing,
be
mission
I,
sorry!
So
when
were
and
Gaza
there's
a
traumatized
community
now
this
chamber
day
and
do
talks
about
adverse
childhood
experiences,
we
were
talking
about
individuals
and
individual
circumstances.
This
is
an
entire
community.
That's
had
adverse
experiences
right.
G
A
I
You
very
much
presiding
officer,
I'm
too,
very
grateful
to
Claudia
Beamish
we're
bringing
such
a
well-crafted
motion
to
the
Parliament
this
afternoon.
It
is
well
crafted
it
threads,
the
needle
to
allow
all
sides
I
think
of
this
chamber
to
support
it,
and
certainly
the
Liberal
Democrats
do
this
afternoon.
I
Presiding
officer,
one
of
the
darkest
legacies
of
the
British
Empire
is
the
reality
that
there
are
lines
drawn
by
British
cartographers
in
maps
around
the
world
which
spark
conflicts
to
this
day
and
that
carries
with
it
a
burden
of
atonement
and
redress
that
is
handed
down
through
the
generations,
as
we
as
parliamentarians
have
a
role
to
play
in
and
at
least
trying
to
unpick
some
of
that
mess.
And
nowhere
is
that
cat's
cradle
greater
than
in
the
current
state
of
affairs
in
Israel
Palestine,
three
treaties.
I
Two
with
the
promise
of
a
Jewish
homeland
state.
Each
of
these
treaties,
seemingly
vital
to
British
interests
at
the
time
effectively
carved
up
the
same
piece
of
land
and
its
people's
with
no
thought
of
the
impact
that
that
would
have
for
those
peoples
or
those
lands
were
generation
upon
generation
and
that
legend,
and
that
legacy
is
measured
out
in
human
lives
in
disproportion,
violence
and
displacement.
That
goes
on
to
this
very
day,
between
March
and
November.
I
Last
year,
Israelis
launched
intermittent
air
and
artillery
attacks
on
the
Gaza
Strip
killing
37
Palestinians,
while
Palestinian
groups
fired
over
a
thousand
rockets
into
Israel
in
the
same
period.
I
welcome
the
motion
today
and
the
questions
it
asks
of
what
we
in
Scotland
can
do
and
must
do
and
as
the
damage.
We
strongly
believe
that
these
two
peoples,
Israelis
and
Palestinians,
are
obliged
to
share
this
region
forever,
but
it
is
part
and
parcel
of
our
responsibility,
our
historic
responsibility
to
the
region,
to
help
them
to
do
that.
I
We
favor
neither
group
over
the
other
in
that
reality
and
we
look
forward
to
recognizing
a
wholly
autonomous
and
sovereign
Palestinian
state
when
it
will
lead
to
a
workable
and
sustainable
two-state
solution.
We
condemned
the
disproportionate
use
of
force
on
both
sides,
whether
that's
right
attacks
by
Palestinians
or
the
Israelis,
continuing
illegal
policy
of
settlement
expansion,
the
morass
of
Israel
Palestine
and
all
the
suffering
that
goes
with.
It
is
the
dark
inheritance
of
our
history
and
we
need
to
play
a
part
in
his
future.
Thank
you.
J
You
say
no,
sir:
this
should
not
be
a
to
be
a
blame
because
we
support
a
possession
or
a
state,
but
debate
of
solutions
can
I
thank
Claudia
Beamish
for
securing
this
to
be
on
Palestine
tonight
and
I
listened
intently
to
a
Scottish
plan.
I'll
cover
some
of
the
points,
but
again
I
am
the
main
lead.
The
Scottish
government
supports
a
two-state
solution,
as
do
I
two
states,
two
governments,
Jews
and
Palestinians,
working
together
for
peace
and
a
region,
peace
which
is
long
over
as
the
deputy
convener
of
the
cross.
J
Part
of
you're
building
bridges
with
ezreal
I
can
only
say
that
the
cpg
I
joined
would
be
very
happy
to
hold
a
joint
meeting
with
the
cpg
on
Palestine
and
this
Parliament
to
discuss
solutions
and
I,
say
Claudia,
Beamish,
I,
hope
she
and
others
accept
my
request
and
listen
visit
to
Palestine
I
took
the
opportunity.
Yes
of
all,
don't.
G
Very
grateful
for
mr.
Lyall
accepting
that
interview
and
my
intervention
and
in
the
normal
course
of
things.
Having
said
what
I've
said
about
dialogue,
gas,
but
I
wondered
with
mr.
Lyall,
except
that
it's
perhaps
unfortunate
that
some
of
the
people
who
attained
the
cross
particular
in
Palestine
would
feel
uncomfortable,
extremely
uncomfortable,
perhaps
even
under
threat
by
attending.
That
group
and
that's
extremely
unfortunate
Richard.
J
J
Well,
we've
got
to
speak,
you
know
and
I
like
to
speak
when
I
went
in
the
vessel.
I
I
could
speak
to
anybody
in
this
real
last
book
and
and
the
West
Bank.
Regarding
the
current
situation
in
the
region,
I
spoke
to
both
urban
issues
Palestinians
and
they
all
say
they
wanted
peace.
They
want
to
live
in
peace
and
cooperation.
I
saw
a
cooperation
and
organization
diversity.
The
manager
was
Jewish,
the
deficit
part
was
powers
done
in
and
they
work
together.
J
We
also
visited
Palestine
in,
say,
a
beam
belt
and
rail
Roja
B
and
the
West
Bank.
This
was
an
excellent
project
funded
by
Palestinians.
Now
Western,
we
own
the
project.
As
members
as
fellow
members
know,
my
questions
are
very
often
direct
and
I
attend
a
meeting
with
a
senior
member
of
the
Israeli
government.
I
told
him
directly.
I
supported
the
three
nations
solution
has
delay
answer
to
me
and
that
Court,
so
do
we
master.
A
J
Want
this
year
the
British,
the
British
in
1947,
the
British
in
1947,
caused
us.
This
was
a
recipe
for
disaster
and
you
only
need
to
go
on
until
May
see
the
recipe
from
disaster,
the
Winnicott
palestine,
my
goodness,
and
we
are
having
teeth.
I
mean
there
have
been
so
many
clients,
so
many
plans
rejected
guys
have
struck
the
the
Saudia
by
Saudi
Arabia,
the
Benjamin
Ellen
planned
the
era
of
Phyllis.
J
It
was
Adin
officer
the
the
art
which
the
West
Bank
was
joined
with
Gaza
the
West
Bank
split,
the
secular
Arab
state,
Palestinian,
National
Covenant,
the
Federal
Circuit
Jewish
and
Arab
areas,
the
United
Arab
Kingdom
plan.
All
these
plans
have
been
rejected.
The
problem
knows
no
rubbish
is
true.
That's
true.
The
problems
in
the
region
go
back
decades
or
finish.
Many
have
tried
to
solve
the
problems.
Numerous
American
presidents,
many
meetings,
Camp,
David
or
Nala.
You
know
you
don't
want
it.
Your
lesson,
that's
the
problem.
You
know.
D
A
J
You
for
saving
ourselves
I
want
a
two-state
solution.
I
want
to
work
with
anyone
anywhere
to
afford
peace,
to
both
Palestinians
and
Jews,
and
what
are
the
regions
which
deserves
peace,
so
I
say
to
Claudia
Benesch.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
see
let
our
CPGs
work
together
and
sure
what
we
can
do
to
bring
peace.
If
you
can't
do
that.
Well,
we
can't
do
anything.
Thank
you
for
saying
officer
right.
K
Officer
I
welcome
this
debate
to
call
for
action
towards
an
independent
Palestine.
The
calls
for
a
freedom
of
belief
for
all
people,
respect
of
human
rights
and
respect
for
the
rule
of
law,
accountability
and
recognition
of
the
state
of
Palestine
alongside
Israel
I'd,
also
like
to
thank
Roger
Beamish
for
raising
this
motion
in
the
parliament
this
evening
and
putting
it
in
its
historic
context.
I
would
also
like
to
tip
for
my
remarks
by
taking
the
six
measures
mentioned
in
the
motion
in
order
on
the
closure
of
Gaza.
K
The
Scottish
government
strongly
encourages
both
the
Israeli
government
and
the
Palestinian
Authority
to
prioritize
a
sustainable
solution
for
Gaza.
That
includes
practical
steps
to
ensure
the
Reconstruction
and
economic
recovery
of
Gaza.
The
current
situation,
where
Palestinians
are
trapped
within
Gaza
but
also
in
a
cycle
of
violence,
should
not
be
allowed
to
continue.
Un
figures
say
that
in
2018,
260
Palestinians
were
killed
in
Gaza
with
a
further
65
killed
so
far
this
year
the
border
Gaza
needs
to
be
reopened
according
to
an
Oxfam
report.
K
Last
year,
unemployment
rates
in
Gaza
42%
were
amongst
the
highest
in
the
world.
96
percent
of
water
is
undrinkable
access
to
electricity,
a
medicine
is
severely
restricted.
A
tolerant
world
should
not
allow
a
situation
like
this
to
develop.
The
end
of
the
blockade
of
Gaza
needs
to
go
hand
in
hand
with
a
cessation
of
violence,
and
this
includes
Hamas
in
Gaza,
who
need
to
commit
to
an
end
to
attacks.
Un
figures
show
14
Israelis
killed
by
Palestinian
last
year
with
a
further
eight
deaths
this
year.
Violence
on
both
sides
must
end
on
freedom
of
worship.
K
The
right
to
worship
freely
is
a
key
human
right
and
peaceful
in
the
Middle
East
is
dependent
on
communities
being
free
to
pursue
their
religious
beliefs.
Without
religious
tolerance,
there
can
be
no
long
term.
Peace
and
I
include
the
practice
of
Christianity
in
Israel,
which
is
a
key
issue.
That's
been
raised
with
by
my
constituents
with
me.
Peace
in
the
region
is
only
possible
if
everyone
is
treated
equally,
no
matter
their
beliefs,
their
ethnicity
or
their
gender.
K
We
aspire
for
Scotland
to
act
as
a
good
global
citizen,
drawing
in
our
own
experience
at
home
to
promote
tolerance
and
respect
for
human
rights
in
other
countries.
People
of
all
faiths
and
none
must
be
supported
to
follow
their
way
of
life
without
fear
of
discrimination,
on
respect
to
the
rule
of
law,
with
rights
become
with
rights,
become
responsibilities,
peace
and
a
tolerant
society
will
only
exist
where
the
human
rights
of
all
are
respected,
and
there
is
a
respect
for
the
rule
of
law.
There
must
be.
This
must
be
at
the
heart
of
any
solution.
K
Ensuring
a
just
and
lasting
peace
can
be
maintained,
an
accountability,
the
rule
of
law
can
only
be
respected
where
there
is
accountability,
security
forces
and
the
police,
the
government
and
its
institutions
that
must
be
held
to
account
with
no
accountability.
There
can
be
no
real
trust
without
trust.
There
can
be
no
real
peace.
A
recognition
of
the
State
of
Palestine,
the
Scottish
Government,
in
line
with
other
governments
in
Europe,
supports
the
two-state
solution
based
on
the
1967
borders.
K
More
than
130
countries,
as
we've
heard
around
the
world,
have
already
formally
recognised
the
state
of
Palestine
and
on
the
15th
of
May
2018
I
wrote
to
the
UK,
encouraging
them
to
do
so
at
the
UN,
but
as
yet
as
we
know,
they
have
not
done
so
officially.
Recognizing
the
state
of
Palestine
was
send
a
clear
signal
that
the
rights
of
the
people
of
Palestine
to
self-determination
are
recognized.
K
We
firmly
encourage
both
Israel
and
Palestine
to
reach
a
sustainable
and
yes
negotiated
settlement
under
international
law,
which
has
at
its
foundation
mutual
recognition
and
the
determination
to
coexist
peacefully.
Despite
considerable
diplomatic
efforts
in
the
past,
the
two-state
solution
has
practical
barriers.
The
construction
of
illegal
settlements
continues
to
be
tolerated
even
encouraged
by
the
government
of
Israel
and
continuing
plans
for
new
settlements
in
the
West
Bank
and
the
retroactive
approval
of
unauthorised
settlements,
undermine
stability
and
the
viability
of
a
two-state
solution.
Official
recognition
would
make
clear
the
expectations
on
a
responsible,
independent
palestinian
nation-state.
K
Palestine
should
aspire
to
the
standards
in
terms
of
respect
for
human
rights,
for
the
integrity
of
its
neighbors
and
the
sanctity
of
the
lives
of
the
people.
The
people
of
palestine
should
not
allow
the
territories
to
be
used
by
those
who
seek
the
destruction
of
his
room.
The
people
of
Israel
deserve
to
live
free
from
the
scourge
of
terrorism
and
anti-semitic
incitement,
which
gravely
undermines
the
prospects
for
a
two-state
solution.
We
believe
that
peace
depends
on
their
being
to
secure
stable
and
prosperous
states
of
Israel
and
Palestine
living
side
by
side.
K
Accepting
Palestine
as
a
state
and
its
own
right
alongside
Israel,
should
be
the
starting
point
of
negotiations
within
Scotland
Scottish
government
does
not
tolerate
violence
or
extreme
extremism
in
any
form.
Just
as
we
condemn
it
when
directed
at
our
own
communities,
we
condemn
it
in
Israel
and
Palestine.
We
believe
it
is
long
overdue
for
a
lasting
resolution
that
sends
that
ends.
The
settlement
expansion
delivers
peace
for
both
Israelis
and
Palestine.
K
Uk
needs
to
use
its
influence
to
what
were
the
international
community
and
global
institutions
to
help
secure
a
lasting
peace
in
the
region.
This
could
only
be
achieved
by
taking
a
human
rights-based
approach
by
respecting
the
rights
of
all
who
live
in
the
region
and
by
pushing
for
a
two-state
solution
where
rights
are
respected.
We
have
consistent,
consistently
condemned
obstacles
to
progress
in
the
peace
process
like
the
indiscriminate
rocket
attacks
on
Israel
or
the
continued
expansion
of
illegal
settlements
in
the
occupied
territories.
K
We
have
also
repeatedly
called
in
the
UK
government
to
use
its
influence
to
help
revitalize
the
peace
process,
finding
a
way
to
break
through
the
political
deadlock
and
bring
an
end
to
the
conflict.
Presiding
officer
I'd
like
to
commend
the
work
of
the
Balfour
project
to
educators
as
all
about
the
underlying
causes
of
the
Israel
passed
in
conflict.
In
conclusion,
the
Scottish
government
strongly
encourages
the
Israeli
government
and
the
Palestinian
Authority
to
work
for
the
international
community
on
securing
long-term
peace
and
ending
the
cycle
of
conflict
which
continues
to
affect
both
Palestinians
and
Israelis.
K
The
Scottish
government
supports
the
EU
position
of
a
two-state
solution
based
on
the
1967
borders
and
firmly
encourages
both
Palestine
and
Israel
to
each
a
sustainable
negotiated
settle
under
international
law,
which,
as
its
foundation,
has
mutual
recognition
and
the
determination
to
coexist
peacefully.
We
will
continue
to
press
the
UK
government
to
do
all
it
can
to
work
with
international
partners
to
actively
work
to
secure
peace
in
Israel
and
Palestine.
A
tolerant
world
can
demand
no
less
and
presiding
officer
in
this
chamber
and
in
Scotland
I
want
to
see
a
tolerant
debate
with
understanding.