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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
everyone
to
the
twelfth
meeting
of
the
culture,
tourism,
Europe
and
External,
Affairs
Committee
and
our
third
remote
meeting
I
mean
item
of
business
this
morning
as
an
evidence
session
on
the
future
relationships.
Negotiations
between
the
European
Union
and
the
UK
government,
and
we
have
David
McAllister
NDP
with
us.
David
is
speaking
to
committee
committee
today,
in
his
role
as
chair
of
the
UK
coordination
group
in
the
European
Parliament
David's,
a
pleasure
to
welcome
you
to
the
meeting
today.
I'll,
be
it
remotely
and
I.
A
Do
hope
that
you
will
bill
to
welcome
you
in
Pearson
to
the
Scottish
Parliament
very
soon.
In
a
moment,
I
will
invite
mr.
McAlister
to
make
an
opening
statement,
but
I
just
want
to
go
through
some
technical
issues.
First,
because
of
the
challenges
of
managing
a
virtual
meeting
such
as
this,
we
are
going
to
take
questions
in
a
pre-arranged
order.
Once
mr.
McAllister
has
made
his
opening
remarks,
I
will
invite
members
to
ask
questions.
A
I
will
then
invade
David
to
respond
and
go
back
to
each
in
turn,
and
each
member
has
one
follow-up
question
once
completed.
I
will
invite
the
next
questioner,
and
so
on.
I
be
careful
of
questions
and
answers
could
be
kids
such
things
and
finally,
I
would
remain
members
to
give
broadcasting
staff
a
few
seconds
to
operate
their
microphone
before
beginning
to
ask
your
question
or
provide
an
answer,
and
I
know
like
to
invite
mr.
McAlister
to
make
an
opening
statement
up
around
five
minutes.
Mr.
McAlister.
B
B
As
the
Honorable
convener
mentioned,
I
chair
the
UK
coordination
group
in
the
European
Parliament,
which
has
replaced
the
brakes
of
steering
group,
which
was,
as
you
I
remember,
led
by
Kiefer
hofstadt,
the
Belgian
liberal
MEP,
perhaps
up
again
with
outlining
how
different
these
negotiations
are
from
any
other
trade
negotiations.
The
EU
has
ever
held
due
to
the
unprecedented
level
of
interconnectedness,
the
geographic
proximity
and
the
already
tight
alignment
of
the
EU,
the
UK
with
EU
regulatory
standards.
B
So
in
order
to
address
in
the
best
possible
way
the
interests
of
the
citizens
in
the
EU
and
also
in
the
UK,
the
European
Union
has
adopted
a
negotiating
framework
that
envisages
a
strong
and
comprehensive
partnership
between
both
sides.
Now
we
deliberately
talk
about
a
partnership,
because
a
partnership
is
more
than
just
a
mere
three
trade
agreement.
B
The
approach
of
Brussels
is
to
take
into
account
the
wishes
of
the
UK
government
to
affirm
clearly
the
British
independence
sovereignty,
as
well
as
the
geographical
proximity
and
how
we
are
interconnected
between
the
EU
and
the
UK.
After
46
years
of
successful
UK
membership
in
the
EU,
the
U
has
made
clear
from
the
start,
the
more
privileges
and
the
more
rights
the
UK
seeks.
The
more
obligations
are
linked.
B
B
Unfortunately,
and
I'm
saying
that
as
somebody
who
builds
very
close
at
heart
to
the
UK,
unfortunately,
our
ambition
hasn't
been
matched
by
that
of
the
UK
government
and
least
until
now.
Nevertheless,
I
welcome
the
belated
publication
of
the
UK
government
of
a
series
of
legal
texts
covering
quite
a
number
of
areas.
I
think
this
is
an
important
step
in
transparency
and
accountability
towards
citizens.
B
Let
me
be
frank,
beginning
because
we
want
to
have
an
open
debate
and
discussion
after
three
rounds
of
negotiations.
No
real
progress
has
been
achieved,
with
the
exception
of
very
limited
openings
on
the
also
limited
number
of
areas,
and
this
is
disappointing.
We
had
a
joint
Foreign,
Affairs
and
Trade
Committee
meeting
yesterday,
/
remote
videoconference
and
colleagues
across
all
party
lines
echoed
that
they
are
very
disappointed
that
progress
hasn't
really
been
made
and
that
we
are
now
under
enormous
time
pressure,
since
the
UK
government
is
still
determined
not
to
extend
the
transition
period.
B
B
The
EU
will
be
very
vigilant
regarding
implementation
of
the
withdrawal
agreement,
and
especially
the
European
Parliament
will
scrutinize
this
aspect
of
negotiations
closely
in
the
context
of
the
withdrawal
agreement.
The
protocol
on
Ireland
Northern
Ireland
remains,
of
course,
the
biggest
challenge,
considering
the
technical
complexity
and
the
political
sensitivity.
B
Secondly,
we
have
to
prepare
our
businesses
and
citizens
on
both
sides
for
those
changes
that
will
take
place
on
the
1st
of
January
2021.
If
we
have
an
agreement
or
if
we
don't
have
an
agreement-
and
the
third
thing
we
have
to
do
is
a
future
agreement,
we
still
believe,
but
it's
wise
to
negotiate
a
comprehensive
economic
and
security
partnership
with
an
overall
governance
framework,
as
agreed
by
the
EU
and
the
UK
in
the
political
declaration
of
a
17th
of
October
last
year,.
B
There
are
four
fields,
as
you
all
know,
where
we
are
still
at
odds:
the
level
playing
field,
Fisheries,
cooperation
on
justice
and
police
issues,
and
finally,
the
overall
government's
the
next
negotiating
round
will
start
on
the
1st
of
June.
We
will
be
debriefed
by
Michel
Barnier
after
the
last
day
of
the
negotiating
round
on
the
4th
of
June
and
I.
Think
after
this
negotiating
round,
booked
sides
will
have
to
analyse.
B
So
in
the
moment,
it's
a
rather
pessimistic
mode
here
in
Brussels,
not
only
the
Commission
but
also
the
Member
States
and
the
European
Parliament
share
the
analysis
that
there's
a
considerable
lack
of
tangible
progress
on
the
main
main
issues.
We
are
an
enormous
time
pressure.
We
understand
that
the
UK
government
is
not
willing
to
ask
for
an
extension
of
the
transition
period,
but
this
now
really
means
the
clock
is
ticking
its
ticking
very
fast
and
we
need
to
make
progress
very
soon.
B
Once
again,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
and
it's
a
real
honor
for
me
as
a
son
of
somebody
who
came
from
Glasgow
to
Germany
in
the
1950s
to
talk
to
the
representatives
of
the
Parliament
of
his
country
and
I'm.
Still,
the
proud
holder
of
a
British
passport
and
I
love,
visiting
Scotland
and
I've
been
to
your
Parliament
many
times
and
I
would
like
to
really
underline
the
good
rope.
All
of
you
are
doing.
I
follow
Scottish
politics
as
good
as
I
can
from
Brussels
and
I'm
hoping
to
ask
it
answer.
Many
of
your
questions.
A
He
underlined
the
use
refusal
to
Oh
cherry
picking
and
from
past
agreements
and
emphasized
that
the
UK,
an
automatic
entitlement
to
any
benefits
offered
or
granted
in
other
contexts.
I
did
not
really
pierce
exchange
of
letters.
What
is
achievable,
given
the
timescale
that
we're
looking
at
and
whether
any
was
that
anything
in
the
draft
meeting
takes
from
the
UV
that
surprised
her.
For
example,
I
need
to
that
was
no
mention
of
the
European
Court
of
Justice,
and
any
of
those
12
draft
takes.
B
B
We
are
way
behind
on
time
skills
timeframe,
which
would
have
been
ambitious
anyhow.
We
should
have
now
been
preparing
for
the
fifth
round.
Instead,
we
just
have
the
third
round
and
I
can't
tell
you
by
all
means.
I
can't
tell
you
what's
going
to
happen
in
June
I
think
both
sides
now
know
that
it
is
very,
very
serious
and.
B
Let
me
just
try
to
make
clear
the
current
schedule
and
the
pressing
time
is
the
result
of
the
UK's
choice.
I
have
been
told,
but
we
shouldn't
request
an
extension
of
the
transition
period
as
Europeans
I
understand
that
it's
totally
up
to
the
UK
think
it's
an
open
secret
that
if
the
UK
were
to
ask
for
an
extension,
I
definitely
EU
would
say
no,
but
we
have
to
accept.
B
Tariffs,
no
tariffs,
parrot
lying
patella
fly
now.
This,
of
course,
would
mean
that
we
have
absolutely
no
chance
of
concluding
a
trade
agreement
until
the
end
of
the
year.
If
you
say
eh,
you
definitely
need
more
time
and
then
is
being
because
this
is
what
we
do
in
normal
and
thread
negotiations
with
third
countries,
and
they,
as
you
know,
take
five
six,
seven,
eight
ten
years.
B
It's
about
establishing
conditions
for
an
ambition
and
balanced
partnership
with
the
UK,
having
regained
its
total
sovereignty
whatever.
That
means-
and
we
know
that
this
was
so
important
for
some
in
the
UK,
but
also
taking
into
account
our
geographic
proximity
and
importance
of
our
trade.
You
cannot
compare
the
UK
with
Canada
or
South
Korea,
there's
a
big
big
difference,
because
the
UK's
in
our
immediate
neighbourhood
and
thus
it
the
single
market,
the
world's
largest
single
market,
is
the
most
important
trading
partner
from
the
UK.
B
So
our
objective
is
to
ensure
open
and
fair
competition
to
benefit
businesses
on
companies
on
both
sides.
We
are
making.
We
are
offering
the
UK
today,
which
is
unprecedented
for
a
third
country,
but
is
not
member
of
a
single
country,
a
single
market
access,
no
quotas,
no
temps.
But
of
course
this
comes
at
a
price
and
the
price
is
phat.
We
don't
start
a
race
to
the
bottom
when
it
comes
to
our
standards,
the
very
mental
standards,
consumer
protection,
state
subsidies
and
others.
B
Efforts
and
engagement
to
negotiate
an
agreement
have
always
been
based
on
the
political
declaration,
and
the
political
declaration
was
signed
by
both
sides
in
October.
This
is
not
an
EU
invention,
it
has
the
signature
of
the
UK
Prime
Minister,
and
the
second
is
that
we
will
not
drive
for
an
agreement
to
be
done
at
all
costs.
We
are
making
an
offer
and
it's
up
to
the
UK
to
decide
if
they
want
to
accept
this
offer
or
not.
But
if
we
are
so
at
odds
in
the
very
vital
issues
then
we
need
to.
B
This
has
been
a
question
for
the
UK
Prime
Minister
and
twenty-seven
Heads
of
Government.
We
will
then
have
to
think
how
we
can
continue
our
negotiations
in
the
second
half,
but
still
in
the
moment,
I
will
remain
an
optimist
until
the
last
minute.
I
still
do
hope
that
both
sides
know
how
important
and
bashas
ambitious
and
balanced
partnership
for
both
sides
would
be
to
be
concluded
before
the
end
of
this
year.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
David,
seeing
obviously
it's
a
bleak
picture
than
that.
It
almost
sounds
as
if
the
agreement
can't
be
reached,
then
we
could
see
an
end
to
negotiations
in
in
June
if
the
UK
doesn't
ask
for
an
extension
which
is
legally
not
allowed
to
do,
and
one
of
the
submissions
to
a
committee
from
Professor
Christopher
Edley,
the
Royal
Holloway
says
that
his
view
is
that
an
extension
to
the
transition
period
is
vital,
and
but
it
need
not
necessarily
take
the
form
of
a
you
key
request.
A
He
says
that
withdrawal
agreement
would
allow
it
to
be
agreed
by
the
Joint
Committee
without
publicly
having
to
be
initiated
by
either
side,
and
is
that
the
kind
of
political
fudge
that
sand
might
follow
the
UK
government
to
to
to
get
an
extension
to
the
period
and
orders
that
another
creatively
that
we
can
get
an
extension
that
isn't
too
humiliating
for
the
UK
government.
Given
the
situation
that
willing
with
call
with
19
and
most
people,
would
consider
it
reasonable.
B
Well,
it's
been
agreed
that
once
an
extension
of
the
transition
period
can
be
agreed
for
over
one
year
or
two
year
and
that
this
decision
would
have
to
be
taken
in
the
joint
committee
since
I
believe
it's
a
sensible
thing
to
extend
the
transition
period,
but
I
would
never
ask
in
a
public
debate
the
UK
to
die
to
follow
my
advice.
It's
just
I
personally
I
think
would
be
a
sensible
thing
to
do.
I
think
that
there
would
be
ways
and
means
to
make
sure
that
the
transition
period
can
be
extended
and.
B
You
can
use
papers.
It's
just
interesting,
interesting
that
Wow
now
that
you've
left
the
EU
is
sometimes
you
have
the
impression
I
believe
more
interested
in
what
we're
doing
here
on
Brussels,
but
look
at
the
beginning.
Michel
Barnier
was
life
on
the
line
if
I
start
to
my
political
career
together
20
years
ago,
both
so
life
on
the
line
said.
Let's
start
these
negotiations
in
a
spirit
of
mutual
respect
and
goodwill,
and
this
is
very
important
that
the
even
though
we're
four
hundred
and
thirty
million
people
in
a
single
market,
the
UK
are
70
million.
B
We
want
to
have
negotiations
full
of
respect
for
both
sides
and,
despite
some
challengers
we've
seen
and
despite
some
difficulties,
we've
had
the
huge
huge
majority
of
people
responsible
here
in
Brussels
want
to
make
the
best
of
this
difficult
situation,
and
we
want
to
have
the
closest
partnership
possible
with
the
UK,
and
we
fully
understand
that
the
UK
has
important
issues
and
not
to
use
the
word
that
they've
the
wrong
lines
of
a
certain
colour.
On
the
other
hand,
the
EU
is
also
are
not
easy
situation.
B
These
special
stages
for
Northern
Ireland
requires
full
implementation
of
the
political
declaration
on
the
British
side
and
the
more
and
the
more
effectively
and
the
quicker
the
British
side
implements
what
has
been
agreed
in
the
protocol.
This
indicates
how
credible
and
trustworthy
the
UK
could
be
on
other
political
fields.
We
will
also
need
to
rely
on
each
other's
goodwill.
A
D
Thank
You
convener
and
the
rostral
agreement
said
the
legal
basis
on
which
the
UK
Risley
him
EU
and
the
political
declaration
was
the
accompanying
document.
That
said,
the
proposals
and
the
levels
of
the
direction
Julie
as
she
have
emphasized
that
was
signed
on
the
17th
of
October
and
since
then
before
the
general
election
December,
and
do
you
feel
you
seem
to
be
quite
a
lot
of
faith
from
the
political
declaration?
But
do
you
still
believe
it's
a
meaningful
document
to
the
UK
government,
given
the
political
changes
we've
seen
in
the
past?
That's
Mansour.
B
B
Council
Parliament
and
in
the
end
of
the
commission,
worked
on
a
mandate
for
these
negotiations,
and
now
you
have
this
piecemeal
approach
in
London,
but
you
pick
certain
bits
and
pieces
of
the
political
declaration
which
are
in
the
British
interest
and
you
leave
others
and
say:
oh,
that's
not
so
relevant,
we've
had
elections
and
there's
a
new
majority
in
the
House
of
Commons.
This
is
once
again
cherry-picking-
and
this
is
extremely
unpopular
in
Brussels,
because
we've
gone
through
this
for
so
many
decades.
B
By
the
way
in
your
language,
you've
picked
cherries,
the
German
translation
is,
will
Zealand
pick
and
we
pick
raisins
in
the
German
language,
but
we
mean
the
same.
So
I
can
only
once
again
say
our
efforts
and
engagement
to
negotiate
agreement.
I've
been
indicated
in
the
political
declaration
will
be
considered
a
political
declaration
as
finding.
D
Yeah
I
don't
disagree
with
any
argument
you
put
forward
there,
but
it
does
personally
appear
that
the
UK
government
and
are
trying
to
be
flexible
with
the
political
declaration.
They
don't
see
it
as
a
as
a
as
you
say,
a
legal
document
and
I
wanted
to
ask
for
more
specifically
about
the
free
trade
and
sorry,
the
level
playing
field
and
the
different
approaches
that
are
too
high.
That
sheep
introduced
to
yourself.
You
I'm
part
of
the
European
Parliament,
looked
for
a
dynamic
alignment.
D
Barney
is
talking
about
non
progressive
and
partnership.
The
UK
is
talking
about
reciprocal
commitment.
Do
you
see
area
for
a
agreement
here
the
three
positions
and
are
quite
strongly
poot?
Do
you
see
any
flexibility
have
been
able
to
reach
the
agreement
and
every
dog
which
niggly
men
around
a
level
playing
field?
What
are
the
consequences
of
that.
B
B
B
17
out
of
20
committees
have
contributed
to
this.
Working
document
now
contains
60
pages
of
what
the
two
reporters
have
written
down
and
then
all
the
statements
of
the
working
committees.
So
this
is
now
a
very,
very
big
Christmas
tree
and
we
have
to
work
now
on
this
working
on
this
resolution
to
make
out
of
a
big
Christmas
tree.
Perhaps
a
smaller
Christmas
tree
or
no
Christmas
tree
at
all,
because
with
the
month
of
June.
B
I'm
saying
this
as
a
representative
of
the
EPP,
if
I
look
at
the
debates
in
other
political
groups
in
the
socialist
group
in
the
liberal
group,
in
the
green
blue
or
in
the
socialist
communist
GUI
group-
and
you
can
imagine
that
the
issues
of
level
playing
field
play
an
even
more
important
role
than
perhaps
in
my
political
family.
So
we
have
to
be
very,
very
clear
that
the
standards
we
have
now
by
the
way
standards
the
UK
has
accepted
and
has
implemented
that
they
are
key
for
any
further
cooperation
with
the
single
market.
So.
B
What
we
followed
with
interest
is
at
what
Mr
Gove
said
a
few
days
ago.
He
said
that
he
could
live
with
some
tariffs
and
quotas,
but
this
of
course,
is
inconsistent
with
the
current
timeline
and
the
ambition
declared
in
the
political
declaration,
because
if
you
want
to
negotiate
tariffs,
buy
tariffs
and
quoted
by
quota,
you
will
need
a
long
long
time
and
then
the
question
will
be
for
the
UK
government.
B
I
wish
I
could
present
you
this
working
document,
but
it's
still
I
think
it's
still
internal
and
we
really
have
to
go
through
it
and
make
it
shorten
the
text
and
make
it
better
readable.
Also
for
our
interested
interest
rate
readers
in
Scotland,
but
on
the
18th
of
June,
hopefully
will
be
adopted
and
we
adopt
our
documents
in
something.
We
call
in
it's
a
kind
of
a
same
language.
They
used
to
be
in
the
United
Kingdom
somebody.
You
know
it's
a
very
technical,
EU
English,
but
they're
used
to
these
kind
of
papers.
E
Thank
you.
A
convener,
hello,
I'm,
I
I,
wanted
to
ask
you
what
you
would
see.
The
purpose
of
an
extension
being
you've
said:
oh,
that
the
EU
has
what
are
in
effect
red
lines
and
the
UK
has
what
are
our
red
lines
and
we've
been
talking
for
I,
know
four
years
and
still
as
some
of
those
red
lines
exist.
But
what,
if
you
would
be
achieved
by
talking
for
longer.
C
B
So
it
would
have
been
ambitious
anyhow,
but
things
have
changed
since
March.
Well
we're
facing
the
loudest
challenge
since
the
Second
World
War,
the
largest
economic
crisis,
since
the
nineteen
thirties
I
think
many
people
would
show
some
understanding.
If
politicians
in
London
said
look,
we
were
so
determined
to
leave
a
single
market
on
the
31st
of
December,
but
because
of
the
huge
challenge
of
the
pandemic
and
all
the
consequences.
This
has
also
for
the
ongoing
negotiations.
B
The
EU
from
the
first
day
presented
a
draft
text
325
pages,
or
what
this
is
our
proposal.
Anyone
can
have
a
look
at
it.
That's
where
we
are
where,
as
what
you
see
on
the
British
side
is
that
step
by
SEM,
certain
Texas
are
handed
over
to
the
Commission
negotiators,
however,
that
the
Commission
negotiators
are
not
even
allowed
to
share
the
UK
text
drafts
with
any
piece
from
a
democratic
scrutiny.
Point
of
view.
B
This
is
hard
to
understand
in
the
European
Parliament,
because
we're
just
as
interested
in
reading
in
detail
what
the
UK
side
has
actually
proposed.
Until
now,
we
were
depend
on
reports
written
by
third
people
in
the
commission
describing
summarizing
what
the
UK
has
proposed.
Well.
Finally,
now
the
Texas
have
been
published
I
mentioned
initially.
That
is
a
major
step
forward.
B
Honestly,
I
really
believe
we
just
need
more
time
the
delicate
issue,
for
instance,
of
Fisheries,
where
you
now
see
after
the
third
round
that
there's
some
movement,
that
the
UK
has
now
presented
a
text
which
we
you
can
deal
with,
and
the
example
of
Fisheries
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
we
could
find
an
agreement.
But
this
time
pressure,
I,
don't
believe
in
the
moment-
is
helpful,
but
anyway
I'm,
probably
preaching
to
a
majority
of
these
politicians
in
Scotland
who
are
in
favor
of
extending
the
transition
period.
B
If
I
followed
the
debate
correctly,
it
doesn't
matter
we
can
do
whatever
we
want.
Our
British
dancing
part
that
doesn't
want
to
dance
the
tango
of
us.
So
we
have
to
accept
that
there
will
be
an
extension
of
the
transition
period
by
the
way.
This
means
on
a
technical
side
that
the
energy
Asians
will
have
to
be
concluded.
The
beginning
of
June
a
beginning
of
November.
That
means
now
we
have
June
July
August
September
October.
We
actually
only
have
five
and
a
half
minutes
to
get
done
whatever.
E
C
E
I,
thank
you
I
for
hire
that
I
answer
you
you're
not
preaching
to
me.
I
know
that
there
are
other
politicians
in
Scotland
who
do
you
want
to
see
an
extension
but
I?
Imagine
I
did
have
views
I
on
your
comments,
but
I
don't
think
that
I
could
realistically
go
back
to
my
constituents,
more
of
whom
I
have
voted
for
exit
than
voted
for
me
and
tell
them
that
we
were
going
to
wait
even
longer.
E
I
had
to
get
really
out
of
the
EU,
especially
and
if
a
Canada
or
Japan
stay
like
women
is
not
an
offer.
I
think
it
would
be
worth
waiting
for
longer
if
there
was
a
good
deal
I
on
offer
from
the
EU
I,
but
from
what
you're
saying
I
had
those
options
seem
to
be
closed
off
head
to
the
UK
and
I
wanted
to
ask,
and
you've
mentioned
that
could
be
movement
on
fishing
I'm.
What
what
do
you
see
that
looking
like
we've,
obviously
seen
in
pressure
ports
here
in
the
UK.
B
B
The
EU,
however,
highlights
the
long
term
conservation
and
sustainable
exploitation
of
stocks
and
considers
that
it
can
discuss
quotas
be
seized
by
species.
However,
this
cannot
be
done
annually
so
back.
That
is
none
of
the
major
point
of
divergence
between
the
two
sides,
the
UK
for
understandable
reasons
once
annual
negotiations,
but
that
won't
be
accepted
by
countries
like
France
of
the
Netherlands
Denmark
and
others
who
have
specific
interests.
So
but
at
least
a.
B
A
G
Thank
You,
convener
and
good
morning
Dave,
it's
nice
to
see
you
and
certainly
agree
with
you
on
that
point.
Around
extension
I
think
it
was
almost
inevitable.
One
was
going
to
be
required
before
the
crisis
that
were
in,
but
purely
in
the
midst
of
this
crisis.
I
think
there
would
be
broad
understanding
from
the
public
in
Scotland
down
across
the
UK,
on
the
need
for
an
extension
I'd
like
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
points
you
made
on
the
Irish
Protocol.
G
Now
that
the
UK
government
has
accepted
what
was
known
all
along
that
there
will
need
to
be
customs
checks
between
Northern,
Ireland
and
Great
Britain.
Do
you
believe
there
are
still
issues
of
difference
of
opinion
and
policy
differences
of
opinion
on
what's
been
agreed
in
relation
to
the
Irish
Protocol,
or
is
the
issue
there
now
purely
one
of
implementation
and
a
lack
of
time
to
get
that
implementation
underway?
G
B
B
So
I'll
just
tell
you
what
the
latest
is
from
the
Vanier
team
on
the
Irish,
Film
and
Irish
protocol
they
have
now
declared
the
Commission
has
repeatedly
underlined
the
importance
of
the
UK
setting
at
its
plans
with
regard
to
all
implementation
measures
prescribed
by
the
protocol
on
Ireland
and
Northern
Ireland,
and
providing
a
detailed
timetable.
The
required
implementation
measures
are
set
out
and
the
Commission's
technical
note
of
the
30th
of
a
approval.
B
In
that
respect,
the
Commission
welcomes
for
publication
of
the
UK's
paper
on
the
implementation
of
the
protocol,
which
it
will
now
study
in
detail.
We
will
share
our
assessment
of
the
European
Parliament
and
the
member
states
and
look
forward
to
detailed
discussions
with
the
UK
at
technical
level.
The
protocol
provides
a
stable
and
lasting
solution
to
address
the
unique
circumstances
on
the
island
of
Ireland.
This
solution
avoids
a
or
dentin
protects
the
Belfast
agreement
in
all
its
dimensions,
while
also
safeguarding
the
integrity
of
the
EU
single
market.
B
The
detailed
legal
commitment
set
out
in
the
protocol
must
now
be
implemented
precisely
to
give
full
effect
to
this
solution.
The
time
to
implement
the
protocol
is
short
and
practical
implementation
measures
must
start
immediately
so
that
the
protocol
can
be
operational
by
the
1st
of
January
2021.
To
this
end,
the
Commission
stands
ready
to
work
with
the
British
authorities.
G
Thank
you
on
certain
questions
on
a
quite
different
area
and
around
Erasmus,
a
number
of
non
EU
member
states
participate
in
Erasmus
and
other
schemes
and
get
huge
benefit
from
being
able
to
do
so,
and
you'll
obviously
be
aware.
The
education
and
issues
around
there
are
a
matter
for
the
Scottish
Parliament
and
Scottish
government.
Do
you
believe
that
there
would
be
school
for
Scotland
to
participate
in
Erasmus
in
the
way
that
other
nor
new
you
nations
do,
and
even
if
the
rest
of
the
UK
were
perhaps
to
take
a
different
position.
B
B
We
call
on
the
Commission
not
to
accept
piecemeal,
UK
participation
in
Erasmus
plus
or
participation
for
a
period
shorter
than
the
full
length
of
the
program
under
the
multi
financial
framework.
We
stress
the
importance
of
ensuring
the
requisite
conditions
for
learning
mobility
and
the
erasmus+,
both
in
the
UK
and
the
EU,
including
equal
treatment
for
learners
on
an
exchange,
for
example,
with
respect
to
tuition
fees,
easy
access
to
course,
services
and
the
avoidance
of
unjustified
financial
or
administrative
burdens.
H
Thank
you.
Can
you
know,
and
good
morning
mr.
McAlister
I'd
like
to
ask
a
bit
about
a
the
fisheries
negotiations,
not
least
because
I
represent
a
fishing
community
and
a
you've
already
referred
to
the
fact
that
you
know
there's
been
some
movement
after
the
third
round
of
discussions.
I
know
that
the
chair
of
the
European
Parliament's,
officially
skirmish
committee,
had
indicated
that
the
UK's
position
could
be
self-sabotaging
and
I
just
would
like
to
have
a
bit
more
understanding
about
what
a
shift
might
be.
B
North,
Germany
and
I
have
the
two
major
fishing
ports
in
my
district.
They
might
have
new
cooks
happen.
I
under
I
am
under
no
circumstances
at
all.
An
expert
on
fisheries
fishing
industry
in
Germany
tells
me
we
need
to
get
a
fisheries
deal
done
and
the
best
would
be,
but
everything
remains
that
it
is
too
much
to
expect.
Now.
Our
fisheries
committee,
as
you
have
pointed
out,
is
led
by
a
French
colleague,
a
French
liberal.
B
If
you
look
at
the
composition
of
the
Fisheries
Committee,
no
surprise,
there
are
many
French
colleagues,
Spanish
colleagues
are
Dutch
friends,
the
Danish,
the
Portuguese
and
there,
of
course,
heavily
interested
in
this.
The
Fisheries
Committee
has
also
sent
us
an
opinion,
and
that
is
well.
It's
very
straightforward.
B
C
B
The
greatest
mutual
benefit
will
be
obtained
by
maintaining
reciprocal
access
to
water
and
resources
by
defining
common,
coherent
and
stable
principles
and
rules
enabling
open
access
of
fishing
and
aquaculture
products
to
markets
without
causing
economic
or
social
tensions
through
unbalanced
competition
and
the
other
things
are
all
very
technical.
And
finally,
the
provisions
of
any
fisheries
agreement
should
be
supported
by
dispute
settlement
mechanisms
as
part
of
the
general
management
of
the
governance
of
the
future
relationship
between
the
EU
and
the
UK.
B
The
agreement
should
be
built
on
the
principles
of
the
Common
Fisheries
Policy,
from
a
sustainable
exploitation
of
conversation
of
marine
living
resources
and
from
the
socio
economic
benefit
of
fishes
operators
and
the
fishery
sectors
and
communis
consumers
last
sentence.
It
should
be.
It
should
offer
balanced,
sustainable
and
long
term
arrangements,
and
it
says
he
had
an
internal
paper
in
the
Parliament.
B
It
is
positive
that,
despite
the
delay
in
the
publication
of
the
UK's
draft,
Exxon
Fisheries,
the
eagle
and
the
UK
managed
to
achieve
some
progress
on
the
negotiations
on
fisheries
during
the
last
negotiating
round,
bringing
the
two
completely
divergent
positions
closer
to
each
other
on
five
to
six
key
areas.
So
that's
some
positive
development,
at
least
a
starting
point.
A
H
C
B
B
B
B
D
Thank
you
Peter
good
morning,
mr.
McAllister
on
the
issue
of
fish.
I
would
just
say,
of
course,
that,
sadly,
for
the
many
years
of
our
membership
of
the
EU,
the
Scottish
government
has
been
conducting
the
negotiations
directly
and
if
that
had
been
the
case,
I
think
we
would
have
seen
home
for
the
many
decades
very,
very
different
results,
but
running
to
the
issue
of
the
extension
of
transmission
or
not
I'm.
Currently
taking
into
account
that
previous
comments
from
my
part,
I
would
be
entirely
with
mr.
D
McAlister
I
can't
see
how
the
the
purpose
of
seeking
an
extension
could
really
be
questioned
by
any
sane,
irrational
character,
because,
of
course
it
reflects
reality
in
terms
of
the
length
of
time
it
takes
normally
to
negotiate
trade
agreement.
That
reflects
the
fact
that
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
global
pandemic,
and
indeed
a
to
pile
on
economic
pressure
on
business
at
this
time,
is
just
nonsensical.
D
A
point
made
by
the
Financial
Times
board
editorial
board
in
a
statement
last
week
where
they
asked
the
UK
government
to
give
the
UK
economy
a
break
by
getting
an
extension.
But
an
interesting
point
was
put
forth
by
Fabian
zuly
and
his
team
of
the
European
Policy
Center
in
a
pic
they
submitted
to
the
committee
this
morning.
I
don't
know:
McCallister
has
seen
that
where
he
paused
the
theoretical
possibility,
at
least
of
if
the
1
July
2020
cutoff
date,
passes
with
no
extension
agreed.
D
Would
it
be
that
legally
or
theoretically
politically
possible
for
there
to
be
none?
The
last
an
expansion
agreed
in
that
period
on
July
22
concede
through
the
end
of
the
year
he
talked
about
legally
well,
you
need
to
have
a
particular
treaty
to
do
that.
It
required
unanimity
in
the
council
which
are,
of
course,
EP
consent.
It
would
require
to
be
ratified
according
to
the
National
member
state
processes
and
then
asked
to
the
substance
of
that.
There
could
be
issues
politically.
Does
mr.
mcallister
see
that,
as
at
all,
more
than
a
kind
of
intellectual
talking.
C
B
First
of
all,
it's
always
great
to
hear
and
read
that
Fabian
sulig
who's,
a
German
fellow
citizen,
is
so
well
known
in
Scotland
and
respected
there
that
he
has
a
tremendous
knowledge
of
Scottish
politics
really
outstanding
and
met
him
a
couple
of
times,
and
so
it's
a
pleasure
talking
to
him.
I
read.
E
B
Today's
press
cuttings,
a
commission
spokes
person,
was
asked
a
similar
question,
probably
yesterday,
at
the
daily
press
conference
about
it,
with
this
extension,
have
to
be
agreed
by
the
1st
of
July
and
I
think
she
gave
a
wise
diplomatic
answer
that
it
has
been
agreed
and
the
withdrawal
agreement
that
the
joint
committee
may
before
the
1st
of
July
2020
the
single
decision
extending
the
transition
period
for
up
to
one
or
two
years,
and
that
this
decision
would
have
to
be
taken
shortly
by
both
sides.
So
that's
the
line
to
take
in
the
moment.
B
B
However,
having
talked
to
UK
negotiators
and
having
followed
so
many
public
statements
by
the
UK
government,
I
would
agree
with
Oliver
Mondale
that
we
will
just
simply
have
to
take
note
of
a
UK
position
not
to
agree
to
an
extension
of
the
transition
period.
There's
nothing
else.
We
can
do
if
there's
not
a
change
of
mind
in
10,
Downing
Street
or
to
make
things
now
even
more
complicated
in
the
House
of
Commons.
D
Hannibal,
okay,
well
I,
and
it's
very
much
a
wait-and-see.
Sadly,
the
attention
of
the
UK
government
at
the
moment
seems
very
focused
on
attain
zoning
Street
facial
advisor
and
his
eyesight
or
otherwise,
and
another
issue
that
I
think
a
note
hasn't
yet
been
covered.
Is
the
important
issue
of
judicial
cooperation
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
mr.
D
mikoshi
could
just
be
indicate
what
the
key
stumbling
block
appears
to
be
there,
because
this
has
been
any
of
you
aware,
broadly
speaking,
the
UK
government
through
the
sorry
I'm,
getting
a
note
for
my
computer
battery's
running
low,
and
you
know
previously
this
happy
little
beer
when,
with
the
things
tended
to
to
work
well,
even
though
it
was,
and
they
just
blew
the
what
is
the
key
stumbling
block
at
the
moment.
Mr.
McAllister,
on
that.
B
Yes,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
four
main
stumbling
blocks:
governance,
fisheries
level
playing
field
and
internal
security.
I
hear
I
would
say
the
following.
With
regard
to
law
enforcement
and
judicial
cooperation,
the
European
Union
has
never
previously
offered
such
a
close
and
broad
security
partnership
of
any
third
country
outside
the
Schengen
area.
B
B
Dutch
access
is,
however,
linked
to
the
obligations
that
member
states
have
to
comply
with
and
would
go
beyond
what
some
of
them
have
to.
These
are
also
areas
that,
by
their
nature,
requires
strong
safeguards
in
terms
of
protection
of
fundamental
rights.
We
need
the
UK
to
provide
those
guarantees,
as
agreed
only
seven
months
ago,
in
the
political
declaration,
such
as
adequate
data
protection
standards.
B
So
this
is
a
rather
technical.
I
know
that
there
is
an
ongoing
debate
just
in
these
days
in
Brussels
about
further
British
participation
in
the
Schengen
information
system,
and
the
problem
is
that
the
UK,
unfortunately,
is
a
third
country,
but
we
both
are
very
interested
in
having
the
closest
possible
cooperation.
But
if
you
want
to
have
access
to
the
database,
you
need
to
follow
the
rules
which
apply
to
all
other
countries
participating,
so
I
think
that's
where
we're
standing
at
the
moment-
and
these
are
very
technical
issues.
B
I
still
believe
that,
with
goodwill
on
both
sides,
they
can
be
solved.
Let
me
just
add
one
point
since
I
chair
the
Foreign
Affairs
Committee
in
the
European
Parliament,
it's
regrettable
that
the
UK
has
until
now
shown
no
interest
at
all
to
negotiate
any
kind
of
cooperation
on
foreign
affairs,
external
security
and
defence.
This
was
a
major
part
of
our
draft
for
the
future
cooperation
and
it's
not
even
part
of
one
of
the
eleven
negotiation
tables
which
have
been
established.
F
Thank
You
convener
and
good
morning
mr.
McAlister
and
I'd
like
to
take
you
back
to
the
questions
that
that
Ross
Scalia
asked
earlier
regarding
Erasmus
I
am
someone
who
has
studied
in
France,
Germany
and
also
in
Sweden,
so
I
fully
understand
and
appreciate
how
important
the
annoucement
that
scheme
it
was
at
the
table
set
us
Socrates
I
was
involved
in
and
also
European
Social
Fund
in
terms
of
the
future
relationship
between
the
the
Scottish
government
and
the
European
Union,
and
also
of
the
Scottish
Parliament
and
the
EU
institution
Hey.
B
B
As
it
is
underlined,
there
is
a
simple
fact:
a
continued
British
participation
in
a
massless
plus
must
respect
all
relevant
rules
and
conditions
of
participation,
as
laid
out
in
the
program
regulation
and
the
K
cannot
enjoy
any
decision-making
power
with
respect
to
the
program
to
bear
for
for
the
EU
UK's
demands
that
it
will
consider
participation
in
elements
of
erasmus+
on
a
time-limited
basis
are
not
acceptable.
So
what
can
you
do
since
right?
We
can
only
negotiate
the
participation
of
sovereign
countries
in
the
erasmus+
programme.
B
I
would
lobby
for
the
UK
to
understand
that
participating
in
Erasmus
plus
is
highly
beneficial
for
the
UK
m-more.
Students
from
the
eu-27
are
going
to
English,
Scottish
and
Northern
Irish
universities
and
the
other
way
around.
But
I
must
say
that
fascinating
to
me,
a
Scot
who
you
studied
in
three
different
EU
countries,
including
Germany,
when
keen
to
learn
which
university
you
stayed
in
Germany
and
I,
hope
you
enjoyed
it
and
that
the
Germans
treated
you
in
a
decent
way.
C
B
F
F
My
constituency
in
the
West
of
Scotland
has
got
many
challenges
as
across
Europe.
There
are
many
areas
that
are
challenged
and
leaving
the
European
Union.
That
decision
has
already
been
taken,
but
the
opportunity
brought
an
extension
because
of
the
recorded
pandemic.
There
is
something
that
is,
that
is
little
for
for
all
sides
in
this
particular
debate.
F
I
genuinely
believe
that
if
we
want
to
try
to
detect
our
constituents
as
best
we
possibly
can
when
the
when
the
UK
s
adlet
leaves
a
European
Union,
an
extension,
as
is
that
wonderful
opportunity
in
terms
of
the
potential
economic
depression
that
has
been.
It's
been
spoken
about,
that
the
social
challenges
that-
and
you
you
spoke
earlier
regarding
the
the
level
playing
field
regarding
the
good
and
employment
and
also
environment.
B
The
key
message
would
be
prepare
the
next
round
of
negotiations
at
the
beginning
of
June
thoroughly.
Let's
see
real,
tangible
progress
breakthrough,
which
will
then
lead
to
a
high-level
conference
middle
at
the
end
of
June,
and
this
can
then
pay
the
way
to
finalize
the
negotiations
in
the
second
half.
So
it's
real,
tangible
progress
and.
B
That
would
be
my
bestie
and
because
you
mentioned
the
the
corona
pandemic,
our
German
health
secretary.
Just
certainly
this
morning,
an
article
he
published
in
an
American
or
British
news
out
that-
and
it
finishes
with
like
most
crises.
This
one
offers
also
opportunities
in
many
areas.
It
has
brought
out
the
best
in
us
a
new
sense
of
community,
a
greater
willingness
to
help
others
and
renewed
flexibility
and
creativity.
B
Perhaps
we
need
to
be
even
more
flexible
and
creative,
also
in
negotiating
our
future
relations
in
these
incredibly
tough
times
of
the
pandemic
and
by
the
way,
I
know,
at
least
from
Germany
every
night.
On
the
Germany
evening
news
there
are
reports
about
a
situation
in
the
UK
and
there's
so
much
sympathy
and
solidarity
in
Germany,
my
friends
in
the
UK
and
the
UK
government
knows
that
the
one
thing
is
to
leave
the
EU,
but
you
have
friends
in
Europe.
You
have
partners
in
Europe.
B
A
A
I
So
that
was
the
well
worthwhile
experience
and
I
want
to
ask
moving
on
from
well
perhaps
building
on
what
my
colleague
Stewart
has
asked,
and
this
is
about
relationships
moving
forward
beyond
December
of
this
year
after
the
UK
has
left,
the
European
Union
I
was
on
a
delegation
from
the
Scottish
crown
would
led
by
the
presiding
officer
to
Lower
Saxony.
Last
June
and
I
know
the
the
convener
as
well
has
been
on
a
trip
looking
to
encourage
and
establish
mutual
relationships
with
Germany
and
others
have
visited
different
European
countries.
I
So
what
would
you
say
about
how
we
can
develop
mutual
relationships
trading
relationships,
cultural
relationships,
and
how
can
we
encourage
these
between
Scotland
and
European
nations
and
and
indeed
the
whole
of
the
UK
and
European
nations,
beyond
the
stage
of
which
we
get
beyond
this?
This
situation
we've
been
discussing
here.
C
B
Are
about
the
delegation
of
which
went
to
Lower
Saxony?
That's
my
BOB
region.
We
saw
our
family
and
Lower
Saxony
and
had
the
honor
of
being
the
equivalent
of
the
first
minister
in
leaders,
acts
from
2010
to
2014,
and
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
a
course
of
cooperation.
But
we
need
his
acts
in
Scotland.
I
should
have
had
the
idea
ten
years
ago,
but
I.
Remember
that
the
then
First
Minister
Alex
Salmond
came
to
an
official
visit
to
need
a
Saxon.
B
The
education
system,
the
high
tech
companies,
the
small
and
mid-sized
businesses
focusing
on
real
high-tech
areas,
tourism,
of
course,
here
exports.
What
you
can
do
is
reach
out
organize
bilateral
relations
with
other
regions
in
Europe.
I
know
that
the
Ministry
of
as
it
could
what's
English
translation
of
science,
research
and
universities
in
either
as
accent
the
Minister
has
agreed
close
cooperation
between
universities
in
leaders,
accent
getting
in
hannover,
Brunswick
and
Scottish
universities.
That's
what
I
would
definitely
encourage
you
to
continue
to
knit
networks
across
the
whole
of
Europe
and
I.
B
Also
very
much
welcomed
the
new
activities
in
the
Scottish
government,
and
especially
in
the
Scottish
Parliament,
to
also
have
closer
cooperation
with
other
regions
in
Europe
and
but
also
say,
don't
only
go
for
the
most
obvious
countries
like
Germany,
France,
Spain,
Italy,
I,
think
there's
also
an
incredible
potential
in
eastern
and
southeastern
Europe,
which
still
has
to
be
raised,
and
so
that's
all
I
can
really
say,
be
active
and
also
after
a
Scottish
voice
in
Brussels
or
in
Berlin.
I.
B
Think
the
Scottish
government
is
very
active
here
in
Brussels.
They
do
a
lot
of
interesting
events.
Scotland
House
reaches
out
on
a
regular
basis
that
teuvos
any
peace
who
have
links
to
Scotland
who
are
interested
in
Scotland,
and
you
don't
have
any
peace
at
the
moment.
But
there
are
any
piece
of
this
Parliament,
including
David
McAllister,
who
are
interested
in
supporting
you.
Wherever
we
can.
C
B
Never
forget
when
the
first
minister
visited
Brussels,
she
invited
all
the
Scottish
any
piece
for
tea
and
there
were
six
and
a
half
invited.
I
was
my
additional
half
mep
and
unfortunately,
the
representative
of
the
UK
Independence
Party,
that
Peter
was
able
to
sit
at
the
real
table.
That
Inc
don't
think
anyone
really
missed
him.
A
C
B
You're
absolutely
right,
please
apologize
my
sarcastic
remark:
Germany
humor.
He
said
what
I
meant,
but
my
party
leader
in
Chancellor's
Angela
Merkel,
so
it's
always
I'm,
always
safe.
To
quote
the
Chancellor
and
the
Chancellor
I
remember,
gave
a
government
declaration
of
the
German
Bundestag
a
few
hours
or
a
few
days
after
the
results
of
the
brexit
referendum
were
made
public
and
I.
Remember
her
saying
in
the
German
Bundestag
after
of
course
underlining
that
she
deeply
regrets
this
decision
and
she's
very
sad
and
so
on.
B
She
said
in
German,
and
perhaps
you
still
understand
that
the
German
phrase
escaped
Kynan
gastic
susan,
which
is
more
or
less
translated
in
English.
There's
no
reason
to
be
nasty,
and
this
is
a
line
we
have
taken
in
the
member
state
in
the
Commission
in
the
European
Parliament,
despite
so
many
of
us
being
so
upset
and
if
you
believe
it
or
not,
I
saw
many
colleagues
and
Brussels
cry
on
the
31st
of
January
cried
because
we
were
so
sad
to
see
your
great
country
leave
our
family
of
Nations.
B
G
B
Leaving
the
EU,
but
also
wants
to
leave
the
single
market
and
the
customs
union,
so
the
closest
possible
partnership
is
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
and
I
mean
you
can
criticize
the
European
Commission
and
Michel
Barnier
for
many
things,
but
you
cannot
criticize
Michel
van
ye
and
his
team
for
offering
a
very
ambitious,
wide-ranging
proposal
for
an
agreement.
So
from
our
side
there
is
really
a
lot
of
goodwill.
The
one
thing
the
UK
needs
to
understand
is
the
integrity
of
a
single
market
needs
to
be
protected
at
all
times.
There
cannot
be
any
shortcomings
here.
E
A
J
Thank
you
Davina
and
a
good
morning.
Mr.
McAlister
we
met
before
when
I
was
the
achiever
Finance
Committee,
and
you
were
a
minister
president
of
Lower,
Saxony
and
well
Elliot.
Today,
in
response
to
the
debut
convener,
you
talked
about
avoiding
a
cliff
age
when
transition
ends
and
I
think
the
key
for
most
members
of
the
public
would
be
that
and
the
wave
of
them
covered
19
and
the
economic
dislocation
that's
caused.
J
B
J
That'd
be
good
because
I
think
ultimately,
people
want
to
know
what
is
going
to
mean
for
them
and
their
communities
ultimately
only
born.
Then,
from
a
second
question,
I
would
like
to
quote
him
professor
Christopher
Greer,
who
gave
written
evidence
to
the
committee
this
morning.
I
don't
know
if
you've
actually
seen
like
I'll
just
quote
what
he
said
briefly.
He
said:
I
quote
the
statements
and
reports
following
the
third
most
recent
round
of
negotiations
which
concluded
on
15th
of
May
2020
gesture.
J
The
two
states
are,
if
anything
diverging
rather
than
converging,
that
are
a
huge
number
of
uncertainties.
So
prediction
is
difficult,
but
my
judgment,
as
there
is
more
likely
than
not
the
UK,
will
leave
with
a
trade
agreement
in
the
sense
of
freely
if
Ledyard
and
free
trade
agreement
do
you
believe
that
the
UK
actually
wants
a
deal.
B
Thing
one
thing
is
clear:
after
the
disappointing
second
and
third
round,
the
European
Union
now
has
stepped
up
all
preparations
for
both
possible
outcomes,
the
UK
leaving
the
single
mark
and
the
customs
union
without
an
agreement
or
on
the
basis
which
we
still
prefer
on
a
partnership
agreement,
so
we're
stepping
up
both
preparations.
If
the
UK
decides
that
they're
not
interested
in
negotiating
an
agreement
on
the
conditions
we
have
suggested,
then
I
think
it
would
be
fair
for
both
sides
that
we
will
be
informed
timely.
B
So
we
can
then
prepare
the
emergency
legislation
on
both
sides
to
avoid
the
cliff
edge.
Didn't
you
talk
in
your
country
about
a
managed,
No
Deal
breaks.
It
I.
Remember
that
term.
There
would
then
the
managed
exit
of
the
single
market
or
the
customs
union,
but
honestly
this
would
by
far
only
be
the
second
best
option.
Well,
there
are
no
good
options.
Anyhow,
this
game
they're
all
terrible
options,
but
of
all
options.
B
I
still
believe,
it
would
be
best
that
we
focus
on
priorities
in
the
second
half,
as
we
try
to
get
as
much
as
possible
done,
and
perhaps
we
can
agree
then
to
negotiate
further
details
after
the
first
of
January.
But
what
we
definitely
need
is
an
agreement
on
the
basics
and
this
by
the
way,
includes
our
demand
for
an
overarching
governance
framework,
something
we
haven't
discussed
yet
this
morning.
B
We
don't
believe
that
the
British
approach
is
the
right
one
to
have
many
many
specific
agreements
with
many
many
detailed
governance
structures.
We
want
one
agreement
covering
as
many
issues
as
possible
and
especially
with
an
overarching
governance
framework
and
if
I
may
just
add
one
point,
because
I
was
in
a
conversation
with
Hilary,
then
the
chairman
of
the
House
of
Commons
committee
on
the
on
the
cooperation
on
my
parliamentary
side.
B
B
Eu
UK
parliamentary
assembly
being
established
after
the
EU
leaves
a
single
market
and
the
customs
union,
so
we
can
also
keep
parliamentarians
on
both
sides
involved.
Those
of
you
who
know
the
European
Parliament
know
that
we
have
many
of
these
kind
of
Parliamentary
Assembly
delegations
with
other
countries
and
the
Western
Balkans
in
Eastern
Europe,
just
to
name
a
few.
B
B
B
A
B
Well,
one
thing
is
that
if
that
friendship
groups
have
been
established
here,
but
they
are
informal
groupings
of
MPs,
as
the
group
Friends
of
the
UK
there's
also
a
group-
that's
been
established,
friends
of
Scotland
I,
usually
don't
join
friendship
groups,
but
I
made
one
exception
and
a
member
of
the
Friends
of
Scotland
a
group.
But
of
course
we
need
some.
How
can
I
put
it
guidance
and
support
coming
from
Scotland
House
to
keep
it
going?
B
The
members
of
the
Scotland
friendship
group
in
the
European
Parliament
are
mainly
the
colleagues
who
either
have
family
in
Scotland
or
have
studied
in
Scotland,
and
many
colleagues
across
the
lines
across
party
lines
have
studied
in
Scotland.
Now
on
the
official
cooperation
in
the
EU
draft
text
of
the
agreement
on
the
new
partnership
with
the
UK,
we
suggest
a
parliamentary
partnership
assembly
should
be
established.
It
shall
be
a
forum
for
members
of
the
European
Parliament
and
the
Parliament
of
the
United
Kingdom
to
meet
and
exchange
views.
B
It
shall
meet
and
intervals
which
it
shown
itself
determine.
It
shall
consist
of
many
peas
and
members
of
the
House.
It
says
members
of
the
Parliament
of
the
United
Kingdom,
so
we're
not
getting
into
details.
If
this
also
means
the
House
of
Lords,
it
should
be
chaired
in
turn
by
a
representative
from
the
one
side
and
the
other
side,
and
the
parliamentary
partnership
assembly
shall
be
informed
of
the
decisions
and
recommendations
of
the
partnership
Council.
So
really,
what
we
want
is
to
build
another
link.
B
B
Convener,
if
you
come
to
Brussels
with
your
colleagues,
you
are
always
welcome
and
if
I
count,
the
numbers
you
might
just
all
fit
in
my
office
and
I
would
be
happy
to
serve
you
a
cup
of
Belgian,
coffee
and
chocolate.
My
door
is
always
open
to
all
Scottish
politicians
from
wherever
party
they
come
from,
with
one
exception.