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1. Article 50 withdrawal negotiations: The Committee will take evidence from-
Rt Hon David Mundell MP, Secretary of State for Scotland, UK Government.
2. Article 50 withdrawal negotiations (in private): The Committee will consider the evidence heard earlier in the meeting.
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A
Our
first
item
of
business
today,
as
a
decision
on
taking
item
agenda
item
3
in
private,
our
members
agreed
our
main
item
of
business
city
as
an
evidence
session
with
the
right
honourable
David
Mondale
MP
Secretary
of
State
for
Scotland
with
the
UK
government
and
welcome
to
the
meeting
mr.
Mendell
and
I
understand.
You
would
like
to
make
an
opening
statement.
B
Yes,
thank
you
convene
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
short
a
opening
statement,
I'm
pleased
to
again
be
here
with
this
committee
to
discuss
the
ongoing
negotiations
of
the
UK's
exit
from
the
European
Union
I
was
last
in
front
of
this
committee
in
February
of
this
year
and
I.
Think
one
thing
at
least
we'll
be
able
to
agree
on
that.
Quite
a
lots
happened
since
then
that
experence
we
discussed
the
Prime
Minister's
speech
at
Lancaster
House
and
the
12
principles
that
will
shape
the
government's
approach
and
strategy
to
negotiations.
B
They
also
discussed
the
Scottish
Government's
white
paper
and
Scotland's
place
in
Europe
and
the
introduction
of
the
European
Union
notification
of
withdrawal
bill
since
then,
we've
yet
again
seen
significant
developments
and
I
remain
ambitious
and
positive
about
the
UK
and
Scotland's
future
and
these
negotiations.
Firstly,
we've
seen
significant
developments
in
the
talks
with
the
EU.
Both
sides
have
approached
the
talks
with
professionalism
and
a
constructive
spirit,
and
we
should
recognize
what's
been
achieved
to
date.
B
In
particular,
the
Prime
Minister's
repeatedly
emphasized
that
safeguarding
the
status
of
EU
citizens
in
the
UK
and
UK
nationals
in
the
EU
is
one
of
our
first
goals
and
negotiations
through
the
citizens
rights
negotiations.
We've
reached
agreement
on
a
range
of
issues
with
the
Commission
and
are
now
within
touching
distance
of
a
deal.
B
For
example,
we
already
have
complete
agreement
on
the
broad
framework
which
were
used
to
grant
residents
include,
who
will
be
considered
in
scope
on
key
issues
such
as
social
security
was
reached
agreement
on
the
bulk
of
the
areas
and
on
reciprocal
health
care.
We
have
agreement
on
all
aspects.
The
Prime
Minister's
recent
speech
in
Florence
also
moved
forward
the
negotiations
with
two
important
steps,
adding
a
new
impetus
on
the
financial
settlement
and
the
time
limited
implementation
period
and
the
latest
European
Council.
B
The
27
member
states
responded
by
agreeing
to
start
their
preparations
for
moving
negotiations
on
to
trade
and
future
relationships
that
we
want
to
see.
I
believe
that,
by
approaching
these
negotiations
in
a
constructive
way
in
a
spirit
of
friendship
and
cooperation,
the
UK
government
can
and
will
deliver
the
best
possible
outcome
that
works
for
the
whole
of
the
UK
I'm,
confident
we'll
be
able
to
negotiate
a
new,
deep
and
special
partnership
between
a
sovereign
United
Kingdom
and
our
friends
in
the
European
Union.
B
B
For
me,
one
of
the
core
principles
of
the
negotiations
is
to
strengthen
the
UK
and
deliver
a
deal
that
secures
the
specific
interests
of
Scotland
Wales
and
Northern
Ireland,
as
the
committee
would
expect,
I'm
working
hard
to
ensure
that
Scotland
gets
the
best
possible
deal
from
the
process
of
EU
exit
and
takes
all
opportunities
available.
There
are
signs
of
real
progress.
For
example,
the
joint
Ministerial
Committee
on
e.u
negotiations
was
able
to
meet
again
last
month
and
I
found
that
to
be
an
extremely
constructive
meeting.
B
B
B
This
work
is
ongoing
and
with
a
series
of
activity
lined
up
to
ensure
continued
engagement
with
Scottish
stakeholders.
Ensuring
their
concerns
are
recognized
and
acknowledged
as
we
leave
the
EU
convener.
The
UK's
exit
from
the
EU
remains
one
of
the
most
high-profile
and
engaging
issues
and
there
remains
much
work
ahead.
Deliver
smooth,
orderly
exit
from
the
EU
I
welcome
the
committee's
continued
contribution
to
this
walk
and
look
forward
to
our
discussion
today
and
our
continued
engagement.
A
This
week,
in
a
letter
to
Baroness
Verma,
the
UK
Minister
for
exiting
the
EU
listed
58
sectors
which
have
been
subject
to
government
analysis
on
how
they'll
be
affected
by
breaks
it,
and
until
now
they
have
remained
secret.
Last
night
in
the
House
of
Commons
and
a
motion
was
passed,
that
they
should
be
shared
and
with
the
House
of
Commons
for
exit
committee,
will
they
be
shared.
The.
B
Government
a
had
previously
indicated
a
such
assessments
and
analysis
had
I
had
been
made.
The
letter
you
refer
to
set
out
at
the
detail
of
which
areas
they
covered
and
I
think
one
if
I
can
just
make
one
clarification,
because,
in
relation
to
some
media
reports,
that
there
was
a
Scotland
specific
analysis,
there
is
not
a
Scotland
specific
analysis.
There
is.
There
is
analysis
of
these
sectors
and
as
to
how
they
apply
within
Scotland.
The
government
is
reflecting
on
last
night's
vote.
B
Of
course,
the
government
respects
the
decisions
of
Parliament
and
indeed
the
decisions
of
this
Parliament,
but
on
the
other
hand,
the
government
has
a
duty
to
attacked
in
the
best
interests
of
the
United
Kingdom,
and
the
government
still
believes
that
sharing
all
the
information
that
is
contained
in
these
analysis
would
not
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
United
Kingdom
in
terms
of
being
able
to
carry
out
these
negotiations
to
achieve
the
best
possible
outcome.
Thank.
B
If
it
was
an
impression,
it
wasn't
one
I
intended
to
give
I
what
I
said
at
that
committee
was
that
there
was
analysis
which
impact
which
I
covered
a
Scotland,
that
we
had
agreed
at
the
joint
Ministerial
Committee
on
EU
negotiations,
that
officials
between
the
UK
government
and
the
Scottish
government
I
would
engage
in
relation
to
the
analysis
that
we
had
both
done,
because
the
Scottish
Government,
of
course,
has
done
some
of
their
own
analysis
in
these
and
other
areas.
But
it
was
agreed
that
officials
would
begin
discussions
about
a
sharing
our
respective
analysis.
Why?.
B
The
analysis
is
in
relation
to
set,
you
know,
two
sectors
that
will
be
impacted
on
by
leaving
the
EU.
Obviously
many
of
these
sectors
are
very
prominent
in
Scotland
and
therefore
Scotland's
interests
in
those
sectors
of
our
part
of
the
analysis,
but
the
these
are.
These
are
our
UK
wide.
These
are
a
UK,
wide
analysis
of
important
sectors.
A
B
I
have
seen
some
of
the
analysis,
because,
obviously
some
of
the
analysis
is
much
more
relevant
to
Scotland
than
others.
There's
58
a
sectors
as
you've
written
I,
saw
you
as
you've
as
you've
alluded
to
a
set
out
in
the
letter
and
though
those
sectors
which
have
a
particular
relevance
to
Scotland,
then
obviously,
I
have
take
my
clothes
interesting.
So.
A
B
We've
just
a
I've
just
set
out
that
the
government
is
going
to
respond
to
a
to
a
vote
in
the
House
of
Commons
last
night
in
terms
of
what
a
it
a
what
it
says
in
relation
to
these
analysis
and
but
I'm
not
going
I'm
not
going
to
reamped
that,
because
our
position
remains
that
putting
these
analysis
into
the
public
domain
would
not
be
beneficial
to
the
interests
of
the
UK.
As
we
take
these
negotiations
forward.
A
B
I
I
don't
see
that
the
analysis
is
about
whether
brexit
is
good
or
bad.
It
is
a
decision
across
the
United.
Kingdom
has
been
taken
to
leave
the
EU
and
were
preparing
to
leave
the
EU
and
negotiating
to
get
the
best
possible
deal
now.
I
know
and
I
respect
that
there
are
people
who
will
think
that
that
is
per
se
a
bad
thing
and
would
would
wish
that
that
was
not
the
case,
but
that's
the
basis
on
which
we're
proceeding.
B
So
what
the
analysis
is
about
and
what
it
backs
up
is
our
work
to
ensure
that
we
get
the
best
possible
deal
for
Scotland
and
the
rest
of
the
UK,
but
when
you're
involved
in
these
detailed
negotiations,
I
don't
think
that
it's
beneficial
that
you
disclose
all
the
information
that
you
hold
in
relation
to
your
own
position
to
the
people
on
the
other
side
of
that
negotiation,
I
think
it's
just
you
know.
I
I,
just
think
that
is
not
the
best
way
in
which
to
achieve
the
best
outcomes.
A
B
Want
to
leave
the
EU
without
a
deal
and
therefore
what
our
efforts
are
focused
on
is
getting
the
best
possible
deal,
and
you
know
I
recognize
all
the
reports
that
appear
in
the
media
from
all
sorts
of
sources
which
paint
all
sorts
of
very
dark
outcomes,
but
rather
than
focus
on
a
the
worst
possible
outcome.
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
the
government
to
seek
to
achieve
the
best
possible
outcome
and
that's
what
I
want
to
do
and
that's
what
I
want
to
do
in
conjunction
with
the
Scottish
Government
I.
B
Think
if
we
need
we've
reached
a
point,
I
think
in
in
Europe
preview.
In
your
meeting
with
mr.
Barney,
he
said,
the
clock
is
ticking
and
the
clock
is
ticking,
and
that
means
that
we
all
need
to
focus
our
efforts
on
the
negotiations
on
getting
the
best
outcome,
not
reflecting
on
what
the
worst
possible
outcomes
could
be.
C
You
very
much
I'd
like
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
this
morning
about
the
relationship
between
the
policy
process
in
relation
to
the
negotiations
with
European
Union
and
in
relation
to
what
the
domestic
consequences
of
that
are
in,
particularly
in
the
EU
withdrawable.
Can
you
say
a
little
about
how
the
the
discussions
you
take
forward
on,
on
the
one
hand,
with
Europe
relate
to
what
you're
discussing,
on
the
other
hand,
with
colleagues
on
without
the
devolved
governments
around
future
arrangements?
Well,.
B
B
He
has
brought
a
certain
order
to
the
process
which
I
have
personally
found
very
helpful,
I
think
so,
and
the
basis
on
which
we're
proceeding
is
we
recognize
that
there
are
areas
where
we
were
not
in
agreement
and
but
we
have
those
you
know
those
are
in
what
at
one
side
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
discuss
a
whole
range
of
other
issues.
So,
for
example,
and
I
acknowledge
the
Scottish
government
have
issues
with
a
parts
of
the
EU
withdrawal
bill,
but
rather
than
spend
the
whole
of
our
joint
ministerial
meeting.
B
Discussing
that
you
know,
we
had
a
very
productive
focus
on
how
we
would
take
forward
the
work
in
relation
to
the
frameworks
and
those
powers
which
will
be
which
will
return
to
the
United,
Kingdom
and
and
here
to
the
Scottish
Parliament.
So
we've
we've
been
able
to
bring
that
focus
in
the
last
meeting
of
the
JMC
I.
Think
what
we've
also
sought
to
do
is
by
the
various
sort
of
position
and
policy
papers
which
have
been
produced
in
relation
to
setting
the
backdrop
for
the
discussion
in
relation
to
the
future
relationship.
B
Then
again,
there's
been
extensive
engagement
on
those
and
that's
ongoing.
That's
ongoing
on
a
daily
basis
between
officials
in
the
Scottish
Government
and
the
UK
government.
Now
we've
had
some,
you
know:
we've
had
some
process
issues
and
I'm
not
going
to
suggest
otherwise
in
terms
of
timing
of
getting
things
between.
You
know
getting
things
between
the
governments
but
Jen
generally,
for
example,
in
relation
to
these
positioning
papers.
You
know
that
there's
been
a
very
good
level
of
agreement
actually
in
terms
of
what
we
would
both
want
to
get
from
from
the
name
a
stage.
B
Clearly,
as
we
as
we
move
a
forward,
there
will
be
some
very
big
policy
decisions
to
be
taken
and
those
whom
you
will
be
the
subject
of
parliamentary
scrutiny
and
parliamentary
debate,
because,
in
addition,
as
I
think
you'll
be
aware
to
the
EU
withdrawal
bill,
they're
going
to
be
a
number
of
specific
bills
is
going
to
be
a
fisheries
bill.
There's
going
to
be
an
agricultural
bill,
it's
going
to
be
an
immigration
bill.
There's
a
customs
bill,
a
trade
bill
you're.
All
these
will
be
subject
to
the
usual
discussion.
Parliamentary
scrutiny
in.
C
Terms
of
the
the
way
in
which
you're
making
policy
within
the
UK
government,
there
was
an
announcement
a
couple
of
days
ago,
around
cabinet
committees
dealing
with
brexit,
and
I
noted
that,
for
example,
you're
a
member
of
the
subcommittee
dealing
with
domestic
preparedness
legislation
and
devolution,
which
is
what
one
would
expect,
and
I
think
you're
also
a
member
of
the
the
overall
committee
for
dealing
with
european
union
and
trade.
Can
you
tell
us
how
that
structure
works?
From
your
point
of
view?
C
B
It
said
you
played
a
full
part
in
the
process,
and-
and
this
is
you
know,
this
is
almost
a
formal
recognition
of
the
importance
that
the
involved
administration's
will
have
in
the
next
phase
of
the
of
leaving
and
I
as
we
move
I
with
the
EU.
So
it
it's
making
sure
that
issues
that
that
reflect
fraud
in
relation
to
the
Scottish
government
in
relation
to
the
operation
of
a
many
of
the
the
devolved
areas,
I
is
recognized
at
the
heart
of
the
at
the
heart
of
the
process,
and
that's
you
know
that.
B
That's
what
we're
looking
to
do
now,
we're
not
always
going
to
agree
a
and
we
respect.
We
acknowledge
that.
What
we
also
respect
is
that
the
the
decisions
in
areas
which
are
devolved
are
not
ours
and
the
UK
government
is
not
for
the
UK
government
to
say
you
know
who
should
get
health
care
in
Scotland
or
who
should
a
access,
a
father
and
higher
education.
But
we
want
to
work
with
the
Scottish
government
your
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
coherent
approach.
Even
if
we
have
different
approaches
within.
C
That
new
structure,
however,
there
is
perhaps
the
most
critical
subcommittee-
is
the
European
Union
strategy
and
negotiations
committee
subcommittee,
which
is
chaired
by
Theresa
May
and
I'm.
Looking
at
the
list
of
members
here,
Damien
green
Philip
Hammond
amber
rod,
Boris
Johnson,
David,
Davis,
Liam,
Fox,
Craig,
Clark,
Michael,
Gove,
Sir,
Michael
Fallon,
but
no
David,
Mandel
and
I
wonder
how
you
are
able
to
influence
the
strategy
of
our
associations
without
a
seat
at
that
particular
table.
The.
B
As
you
set
out,
that
is
a
subcommittee
of
the
cabinet
and
the
way
in
which
we
approach
all
these
matters
is
that
there
are
decisions
of
the
cabinet,
ultimately
in
relation
to
a
strategy
and
approach
and
I'm
satisfied
that
I
have
the
opportunity,
with
direct
access
to
the
Prime,
Minister
and
other
ministers,
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
my
contribution
to
that
debate
is
held
and,
hopefully
is
acted
upon.
So.
C
One
very
practical
example:
one
of
the
things
I
know
we'll
be
discussing
with
Scottish
Ministers,
his
future
framework
for
fisheries
or
indeed
for
agriculture
in
terms
of
this
negotiating
committee.
Presumably
they
will.
The
subcommittee
will
be
taken
forward
the
work
of
identifying
what
future
Arrangements
the
United
Kingdom
will
have
a
European
Union
in
those
policy
areas.
B
What
I
can
update
you
on
is
that
on
Monday
mr.
Ewing,
and
indeed
his
counterparts
from
Wales
and
a
representative
Northern
Ireland
said,
are
going
to
meet
with
mr.
golf
Michael
Gove
in
order
to
actually
discuss
it
begin
discuss
in
a
discussion
around
what
frameworks
in
relation
to
fisheries
and
agriculture.
Might
my
Luca
look
like
so
you
know
in
in
that
direct
departmental
area?
There
will
be.
You
know
there
will
be
a
direct
Scottish
government,
UK
government
policy,
discussion
that
at
that
point.
C
B
D
Thank
you
I
think
that,
astonishing
that
the
sector
of
State
for
Scotland
has
not
commissioned
a
Scottish
specific
analysis
of
the
impact
of
Bray
exits,
especially
now
that
you
understand
of
up
to
70
staff
working
in
the
scotland
office.
But
notwithstanding
that,
let's
talk
about
sectors
and
as
the
MSP
for
space
aid,
but
are
owned.
Half
of
Scotch
whisky
production
takes
place.
Can
you
give
us
an
insight
to
what
the
analysis
of
the
Scotch
whisky
sector
is
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
breaks?
D
B
B
We
are
a
absolutely
clear
on
the
need
to
protect
the
the
geographic
indicators
around
a
whisky
products
were
clear
on
the
need
to
open
to
continue
existing
markets
and
open
new
markets,
but
and
I'm
very
heartened
by
the
very
positive
approach
that
Scotch
whisky,
Association
others
take
to
the
opportunities
that
brexit
could
I
could
provide
for
them
and
the
opportunities
to
actually
grow
the
industry.
And
if
you
look
at
the
comments
of
that
industry,
you
know
has
made,
they
have
been
very
positive
in
relation
to
opportunity.
So
that's
what
I'm!
That's?
D
Clearly,
scotch
whiskey
is
the
biggest
drink
export
for
the
UK
and
Scottish
salmon's,
the
biggest
food
export
from
the
UK
and
they're,
both
Scottish
sectors
and
two-thirds
of
Scottish
fishing
opportunities.
They
belong
to
Scottish
waters
as
well.
That's
why
I'm
astonished
also
you're,
not
in
the
subcommittee
who
have.
Presumably
that
subcommittee
will
be
discussing
many
of
these
really
important
industries
of
disproportionate
importance
to
Scotland.
B
I've
indicated
in
my
answer
to
Mr
Macdonald
how,
in
terms
of
direct
a
direct
inter
relationship,
a
between
Scottish
government
involving
the
scotland
office
and
UK
department,
these
very
important
industry's
interests
are
being
represented
and
taken
forward.
That's
you
know
it's
not
just
about
what
happens:
a
1,
a
sub
committee
meeting.
It's
not
a
it's
about
the
overall
approach
and
the
overall
approach
recognizes
the
absolute
importance
of
these
industries
and
the
importance
of
achieving
the
best
possible
outcome
in
these
negotiations
for
those
industries.
My.
B
D
Negotiations
for
our
tradition,
transition
deal
and
Michael
golf
according
to
Lord.
Duncan
has
said
that
a
agriculture
and
fishing
will
not
be
part
of
any
transition
deal
suggesting.
Therefore,
within
a
year
up
to
that,
full
control
over
Scottish
waters
will
be
returned
to
the
Scottish
Parliament.
What
makes
you
believe
that
the
other
member
states
of
Europe
are
going
to
lay
the
UK
to
cherry-pick
and
a
low
of
transition
for
some
areas
but
turn
and
see,
but
you
can
have
our
fishing
quarters
in
2019.
D
B
A
the
position
that
has
mr.
golf
I
confirmed
is
that
that
there
have
been
no
farm
decisions
in
relation
to
agriculture
and
Fisheries
during
the
transition
period
during
the
transition
period.
So
therefore,
your
those
are
matters
are
still
under
consideration,
and
you
know
there
are
a.
For
example.
I
was
pleased,
of
course,
that
the
Scottish
Government
I
welcomed
the
transition
period.
D
Question
relates
to
the
purse
we
just
discussed
in
terms
of
agriculture
and
fishing
there's
enormous
expectations,
particular
amongst
our
fishing
community,
because
every
cloud
has
a
silver
lining
and
even
exiting
the
EU
has
a
silver
lining
in
terms
of
returning
our
fish
and
waters
to
Scottish
control.
And
are
you
able
to
get
a
guarantee
to
this
committee
and
to
the
fishing
communities
that
perhaps
in
2019,
if
the
transition
deal
goes
as
we
like
it,
that
100%
control
of
Scottish
fishing
drones
will
be
returned
to
the
Scottish
Parliament's?
What.
B
B
B
But
I've
a
I've
been
round
that
course
many
times
in
relation,
for
example,
to
a
Scotland
at
2016.
When
we
were
told
that
promises
that
had
been
made
would
not
be
delivered,
they
were
delivered
the
Scotland
Act.
Sixteen
delivered
the
Smith
Commission
in
fool.
We
have
I've
been
very
clear
that
significant
powers
and
responsibilities
will
come
to
the
Scottish
Parliament
as
a
result
of
leaving
the
EU
and
I
am
absolutely
clear
that
that
will
be
the
case.
F
Have
you,
as
secretary
of
state,
had
any
intimation
from
political
parties
who
have
a
great
deal
to
say
on
so
many
different
aspects
of
the
negotiation,
that's
underway,
what
they
regard
as
an
acceptable
divorce
bill
and
insofar
as
you
have
had
indications
from
them,
do
you
find
those
to
be
credible
and
acceptable?
I.
B
F
On
that,
because
it
did
seem
when
we
were
in
Brussels
that
there
was
a
an
agreement
that
considerable
progress
was
being
made
on
the
issue
of
Northern
Ireland
on
the
issue
of
citizens
rights,
although
there
was
still
some
more
to
be
had
and
that
the
budget
was
going
to
be
an
absolutely
critical
factor
in
the
determination
of
sufficient
progress.
Do
you
place
the
budget
and
the
importance
of
an
agreement
in
principle
around
how
that
will
progress?
F
B
Negotiation
has
to
parties
are
in
this
case
we
could
say
28
parties
plus
the
Commission
plus
European
Party
empowerment.
So
we
can't
assert
your
what
then,
what
either
the
process
is
or
how
it,
how
it
unfolds,
or
the
relative
importance,
that's
placed
on
your
different
issues
and
we've
acknowledged
that
we
wouldn't
have
always
proceeded
on
the
basis
that
has
been
has
been
the
actual
outcome.
But
you,
the
more
general
point
is,
is
correct
and
it
goes
back
to
something
I
said
earlier.
B
You
know
we
are
a
key
point
in
this
negotiation
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
much
better
for
the
country
as
a
whole.
The
United
Kingdom
Scotland
that
we
did
all
pull
together
in
relation
to
the
negotiations
and
tried
to
get
the
best
possible
deal
not
to
seek
political
objectives,
not
seek
to
defeat
the
government
simply
because
that
was
possible
on
the
basis
of
parliamentary
numbers,
but
actually
to
rally
around
and
try
and
get
at
that
best
possible
deal.
B
F
One
other
question:
that's
relation
to
the
111
powers
as
identified
and
which
I
know
there
have
been
sustained
and
ongoing
engagement
with
the
Scottish
government.
I
know
that
mr.
green
has
been
involved
in
these
conversations
as
well
in
relation
to
how
these
matters
will
proceed
as
I
understand
that
you've
said
either
these
powers
will
be
the
subject
of
a
transfer
to
the
Scottish
Parliament
or
to
framework
agreements
in
which
the
Scottish
Government
will
have
had
its
party
of
agreement.
B
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
arbitrary
number,
but
basically
I
would
like
us
very
quickly
to
get
to
a
situation
where
there
is
a
series
of
powers
and
responsibilities.
Everyone
agrees
comes
the
Scottish
Parliament
as
soon
as
practical
there's
a
second
area
where
everyone
agrees
that
a
framework
is
necessary
in
the
Scottish
government.
B
You
acknowledge
that
there
are
areas
where
there
will
be
frameworks
necessary,
and
at
this
stage
you
know,
there's
an
area
where
the
some
continued
discussion,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
extremely
helpful
to
the
process
extremely
helpful
to
giving
a
mr.
lawhead
and
others
confidence
in
our
approach
a
that.
We
were
able
to
achieve
that
and
I
hope
that
that
can
be
forthcoming
relatively
shortly.
B
There's
something
ongoing
at
the
moment,
which
is
called
a
deep
dive,
which
is
where
officials
from
both
governments
are
working
on
on
two
areas:
a
a
justice
and
agriculture
to
look
at
what
frameworks
might
look
like
and
what
all
the
sort
of
technical
areas
and
that's
ongoing
at
the
moment
that
there's
a
third
area
of
health
that's
being
looked
at
because
obviously
wheels
doesn't
have
its
own
justice
system,
so
they
you're
separate
from
a
England.
So
it
a
that
work
is
ongoing.
B
B
Convening
isn't
just
important
where
there
is
a
framework
that
a
UK
framework
that
does
not
mean
that
the
UK
government
imposes
a
position
on
a
respective
administration's
in
the
United
Kingdom.
It
means
that
there
is
an
agreement
on
what
arrangement
should
apply
across
the
United
Kingdom.
Thank
you.
B
They
want
really
just
one
point
of
change:
they
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
a
change
at
the
in
in
March
2019
when
we
entered
the
transition
period
and
another
change
as
we
left
the
transition
period.
So
the
intention
or
wish
that
we
would
want
in
relation
to
the
transition
period
is
that
everything
would
be
as
as
much
I
as
is
possible
equivalent
to
the
arrangements
that
exist.
Now.
Of
course,
there
are
some
complexities.
A
mr.
B
Locke
had
alluded
to
one
in
relation
to
the
Common
Fisheries
Policy,
the
Common
Agricultural
Policy,
when
your
effectively
have
left
the
EU
and
those
issues
will
have
to
be
those
issues
that
have
to
be
resolved.
The
Prime
Minister
has
made
the
government
has
made
a
clear
statement
in
relation
to
a
funding,
a
position
which
would
continue
in
that
a
in
that
period
as
part
of
the
overall
arrangements.
For
as
we
would
see
it
meeting
all
our
obligations
as
we
leave.
It's.
B
We
won't
those
decisions,
are
me
well,
we
will
not
be.
We
will
not
be
a
member
state
of
the
EU,
and
that
is
the
consequence
of
the
outcome
of
of
the
referendum
and
not
even
that
is
a
fact,
but
of
course
it
would
be.
That
would
be
the
same
position
if
we
were
in
FTE
arrangements.
That's
that's
the
basis
on
which
they
proceed.
Ok,.
G
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that
I
am
I,
really
want
to
touch
on
focus
on
EU
citizens
or
and
you'd
opening
statement.
You
said
that
the
UK
isn't
touching
distance
of
a
deal
with
the
EU
on
citizens
rights.
However,
it
would
not
be
fair
to
say
that
there
are
still
substantial
hurdles
to
be
overcome
in
that
in
relation
to
X
state
the
likes
of
extended
family
and
in
terms
of
that
all
of
the
european
court
of
justice
and
upholding
citizens
rights.
And
how
do
you
see
those
hurdles
being
overcome?
I.
B
Think
that
a
the
the
level
of
agreement
that
we've
managed
to
reach
gives
us
a
hope
that
that
the
outstanding
issues
can
be
resolved.
I
think
we
mean
I
think
we
have
come
a
very
significant
distance.
We
want
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
that
a
EU
citizens
can
a
remain
in
the
United
Kingdom
Prime
Minister
has
always
set
out
how
that
the
value
importance
the
Welcome
that
she
has
in
respect
of
EU
citizens.
B
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
conclude
those
arrangements,
of
course,
as
we've
set
out
previously,
we
want
to
be
able
to.
We
want
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
UK
citizens
who
are
resident
in
other
parts
of
the
year,
you
also
have
equivalent
rights,
but
I
am
I,
am
confident
that
we
are
that
in
that
area
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
resolution.
I
think.
G
It's
all
very
well
that
the
plane
Minister
welcomes
EU
citizens
and
has
offered
those
those
platitudes,
but
essentially
I
feel
like
that's
what
that's
all
that
they
are
because
it
isn't
very
reassuring
to
the
EU
citizens
living
in
this
country
when
they
really
don't
know.
What's
going
on
and
in
terms
of
a
New
Deal
scenario,
no
understand
this
may
be
something
you
don't
want
to
see
happen,
but
in
the
committee
at
the
Scottish
Affairs
Committee
last
week,
you
said
that
we
understand
the
need
to
prepare
for
the
No
Deal
scenario.
G
B
Know
deal
scenario:
it
is
a
in
my
view,
I
know
where
we
effectively
leave
the
EU
on
a
WTO
terms,
but
that
various
other
agreements
have
been
put
in
place.
So,
although
that
is
characterized
as
no
deal,
it
is
effectively
a
minimalist
deal
and
I
would
anticipate
that.
If
even
if
we
left
on
the
basis
of
a
minimis
deal,
we
would
fully
implement
the
arrangements
that
have
already
been
negotiated
and
are
close
to
being
finalized
in
relation
to
EU
citizens.
We
want
you
citizens
to
be
able
to
remain
in
the
United
Kingdom.
G
Are
just
a
couple
of
other
points
that
I
feel
are
really
important
and
and
need
to
be
discussed
in
terms
of
settled
status.
Now
we're
told
and
evidence
to
give
this
committee
that
there's
a
legal
uncertainty
around
that
term
and
it's
particularly
problematic
because
of
the
uncertainty
that
it
gives
for
landlords,
employers
and
indeed
the
NHS
in
terms
of
how
they
will
treat
people.
So
are
you
able
to
tell
us
exactly
what
settled
status
will
mean
and
how
all
that,
compared
to
the
current
rates
that
you
citizens
have
living
in
this
country?
What.
B
I'll
do
because
of
the
of
because
these
are
these
are
complex
issues.
I
will
write
specifically
to
the
Committee
on
the
settled
status
issue,
but
basically
anyone
who
has
anyone
who
has
a
been
in
the
UK
for
five
years,
a
date
which
will
be
the
subject
of
negotiation,
will
be
able
to
achieve
settle
status.
If
a
that,
if
they,
if
they
haven't
achieved
the
five
years,
they
will
be
able
to
remain
for
the
remaining
period
part
of
the
five
year
period
to
reach
that
point.
But
I
do
recognize.
B
G
You
I
do
appreciate
that,
but,
to
be
honest,
it's
all
very
well
relating
to
the
committee,
but
we're
not
the
ones
who
need
to
be
informed
about
what's
happening,
because
I
think
that
it's
the
uncertainty
for
the
people,
the
EU
citizens
living
here-
that
they
really
need
to
know
what's
going
on,
and
that
would
lead
me
on
to
communication
as
well.
What
is
the
communication
strategy
in
terms
of
informing
EU
citizens
of
the
most
up-to-date
information
that
that's
happening
with
EU
negotiations
and
about
what
their
future
status
might
be?
G
B
Opportunity
to
and
to
get
the
maximum
possible
information
and
I
will
I
will
share
that
with
the
committee.
I
accept
that
that
needs
to
be
widely
promulgated.
You
know,
I
understand
the
concerns
that
people
have
had
during
this.
It
is
an
uncertain
period
and
you
know
I
understand
that,
but
that's
why
we
want
to
resolve
it
as
quickly
as
possible
to
bring
as
much
certainty
as
was
possible.
B
I
would
have
I
would
have
preferred
that
we
had
actually,
you
know,
been
able
to
negotiate
this
immediately,
that
article
50
was
triggered,
but
the
EU
didn't
want
to
proceed
on
that
basis
at
that
time,
but
you're
absolutely
right.
It's
incumbent
on
us
to
get
as
much
information
to
people
as
we
possibly
can
I
I
think
there
is
always
a.
G
B
Are
we
are
aware
than
that,
and
you
know
the
evidence
that
you
took
was
an
important
important
validation
of
that
these
issues
are
the
under.
We
are
taking
place,
I
mean,
obviously
we
do
have
report
within
Scotland
and
the
UK
comprehensive
discrimination
anti-discrimination
legislation
and
that
a
you
know
that
in
itself
should
be
utilized
where
these
cases
come
to
a
come
to
a
four
had
come
to
the
fore.
B
We've
got
very
comprehensive,
both
here
in
Scotland
and
UK
anti-slavery,
a
and
a
real
determination,
I
think
in
relation
with
both
governments
not
to
tolerate
in
any
way
modern,
a
slavery
or
trafficking,
and
we
must
utilize.
You
know
those
laws
and
means
that
anybody
who's
got
any
information
about
that
happening.
You
know
needs
to
get
that
to
the
police.
It's
not
it's
not
acceptable,
but
we
need
to
you
know.
We
do
also
need
to
in
relation
to
the
the
discrimination
that
you
mention
in
relation
to
your
financial
arrangements
and
mortgages
mortgages
in
housing.
G
Thankfully,
being
done
at
the
moment,
because
I
understand
what
you
say
about
the
legislation
being
there
to
tackle
that,
but
it
solve
it
about
looking
at
it
now,
but
you
know
this
is
it's
been
ongoing
for
a
while?
It's
continuing
to
happen
and
I
think
that
people
need
to
be
reassured
that
the
government
is
proactively
looking
at
ways
to
tackle
this,
and
it's
also
proactive
actions
that
would
be
looking
well.
B
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
proactive
action
and
going
ahead
in
relation
to
the
modern
slavery
and
trafficking
front,
for
example
you're
on
on
that
specific,
but
you
are
making
it
very
clear,
malik
an
that.
That's
the
sort
of
discrimination
that
you
mentioned
in
your
right.
It's
just
not
you
know
it's
not
acceptable.
It's
not
acceptable
here
in
scotland
is
not
acceptable
anywhere
in
the
UK.
If
a
we
have
comprehensive
your
array,
discrimination,
a
laws
within
a
both
Scotland
and
the
UK,
but
if
they're
not
adequate,
then
something
that
would
need
to
be
done.
A
B
H
B
H
You
questions
were
just
supplementary
to
some
of
the
questions.
Aren't
fisheries
and
I
wasn't
clear
about
the
point
you
were
making
on
Fisher
agriculture
in
transition?
Will
the
current
regimes
that
we
all
understand
and
love
or
hate
con
Fisheries,
Policy,
Nocona,
Common
Agricultural
Policy
continue
as
they
currently
are
delivered
during
that
transition
period,
a.
B
Final
decision
has
not
been
taken
in
relation
to
those
matters,
because
the
transition
arrangements
have
not
been
fully
negotiated
fully
negotiated,
so
it
would
be
I
I.
Couldn't
give
you
at
this
moment
a
definitive
position
now
the
position
a
and
I,
don't
think
it's
a
breach
of
confidence.
I'm
in
position,
for
example,
the
Scottish
Government,
is
that
they
would
wish
for
both
those
arrangements
to
continue
during
that
during
the
transition
period.
B
My
understanding
is
that
the
nf
us
in
Scotland
would
wish
the
cap
position
to
continue
during
the
transition,
but
that
the
Scottish
fisherman's
Federation
would
not
wish
for
the
Common
Fisheries
Policy
to
proceed
during
the
transition.
So
obviously
you
know
there
are
discussions
to
be
had
and-
and
you
know,
the
decisions
ultimately
to
be
made,
but
then
I
can't
there
isn't
a
definitive
response
at
this
moment.
No.
H
I'm
sad
but
you've
said
well,
the
scottish
government's
position
is,
but
what's
the
UK
government's
position
on
both
the
Common
Agricultural
Policy
and
the
Common
Fisheries
Policy
during
transition
is
the
UK
government's
position
that
those
policies
should
continue
during
the
transition
as
they're
currently
well.
Our.
B
H
B
H
B
H
B
H
You,
the
final
question
I
had
was
on
the
on
No
Deal,
take
a
point
that
some
say:
you're
not
seeking
no
deal,
but
no
deal
is
clearly
one
of
the
things
that
could
happen.
Has
the
note
has
all
these
sectoral
analysis
that
you
were
being
asked
about
earlier
on
included
an
assessment
of
what
would
happen
to
every
part
of
the
UK
economy
if
there
was
no
deal
or
a
minimalist
ear,
I
think
to
use
your
phrase,
I
think.
B
H
B
I
One
brief
supplementary
on
the
matter,
GU
Jones
point
before
moving
on
the
evidence
session
that
their
committee
took
with
European.
Citizens
has
been
mentioned.
One
of
the
witnesses
that
we
had
are
wound
from
Romania
here
with
her
family
husband
and
two
young
sons
said
that
she
felt
like
she
other
European
citizens.
Her
family
had
been
treated
like
the
dog
that
the
UK
had
bought
for
Christmas,
but
didn't
want
anymore.
I
B
Don't
a
III
don't
think
that
to
be
the
case,
I'm,
obviously
always
concerned.
You
know
to
hear
about
people
who
feel
that
they
have
been
badly
a
treated
or
the
the
personal
experiences
that
they
had,
but
I
think
what
the
government
has
made
it
clear
throughout
that
it
was
a
priority
to
to
resolve
this
issue,
and
it's
been
pretty
clear
throughout.
You
know
that
we
wished
people
to
stay
and
we've
we've
sought
to
convey
a
from
the
Prime
Minister
myself
other
members
of
the
government
that
we
wanted.
B
I
Government
prioritized
less
within
ago
she
ations
you're
correct,
but
you
could,
of
course,
simply
removed
it
from
negotiations
and
taken
unilateral
action
to
reassure
people,
but
moving
on
to
the
the
form
of
the
deal,
your
cabinet
colleague,
Liam
Fox,
said
either
yesterday
or
this
morning
that
he
is
not
afraid
of
a
no
deal
right
scenario.
Are
you
afraid
of
an
audio
scenario?
What.
B
We
are
in
is
a
negotiation
to
try
and
achieve
the
best
possible
deal.
We
are
not
seeking
new
deal,
but
we
have
to
plan
for
there
being
a
new
deal
it
a
and
that
that's
basically
a
where
we
are.
We
mu.
I
III
don't
think
that
a
by
characterizing
a
new
deal
scenario
as
cataclysmic
and
m'l
way
of
taking
that
forward
in
terms
of
getting
a
good
deal,
because
that's
what
that's
what
we
want
to
do
so,
therefore,
you
know
the
reality
is
yeah.
B
If
we
are
not
able
to
get
a
deal,
we
will
be
in
a
New
Deal
scenario,
and
we
will.
We
will
look
to
manage
that.
We
will
look
to
get
the
best
possible
outcome
from
a
New
Deal
scenario,
as
I
said
and
I.
Think
mr.
mr.
Scott
characterize
I
mean
New.
Deal
scenario
is
essentially
a
minimalist
scenario:
it's
not
as
a
sometimes
it's
portrayed
that
we
sort
of
crashed
out
of
the
EU.
It's
just
that
we
are,
we
would
be
leaving
EU
on
WTO
terms
and
on
the
basis
of
certain
specific
agreements,
the.
I
Projections
that
the
schematic
commissioned
from
the
freezer
founder
Institute
for
the
minimal
steel
no
deal
at
that
range
of
scenarios
projected
that
Scotland
would
be
set
to
lose
80,000
jobs
and
that
the
average
wage
would
drop
by
2,000
pounds
see
it's
not
helpful
to
characterize
this
negatively.
But
this
is
simply
economic
analysis.
There
was
no
political
spend
on
that.
Surely
what
workers
in
Scotland
would
be
concerned
would
be
afraid
of
a
2,000
pound
drop
in
average
wages.
Why
are
you
as
their
secretary
of
state
not
also
concerned
and
afraid
of
that
I'm.
I
B
A
I've
said
and
made
clear
today
is
the
United.
Kingdom
has
voted
to
leave
the
EU.
What
it
is
incumbent
on
the
UK
to
do
UK
government
to
do
working
in
conjunction
with
Scottish,
Government
and
others
is
to
get
the
best
possible
deal
and
that's
what
I
you
know.
That's
what
I
want
to
focus
on,
not
on
all
sorts
of
a
negative,
a
scenarios
when
those
are
not
what's
currently
in
play.
I
am
confident
that
we
will
be
able.
B
We
have
to
prepare
for
no
deal,
it
would
be
an
audio
scenario.
It
would
be
irresponsible
of
the
government
not
to
prepare
for
a
New
Deal
scenario,
but
it
is
not
what
we're
seeking
to
achieve.
What
we're
seeking
to
achieve
is
the
new
economic
partnership
with
the
EU
which
the
Prime
Minister
has
a
has
set
out,
which
we
hope
we
can
begin
negotiating
after
the
December
council.
That's
where
we're
putting
a
our
a
focus
it.
No,
you
know
it's
not
it's
clear.
There
are
some
people
who
would
out
who
do
argue
for
a
new
deal.
B
Just
those
are
some
people
who
argue
that
we
should
be
taken
back,
you
know,
but
we
should
abandon
brexit
and
remain
in
a
in
in
the
EU,
and
you
know
people
have
their
reasons
for
for
arguing
a
both
and
other
scenarios,
but
what
the
government's
about
the
UK
government
about
is
getting
the
best
possible
deal
and
that's
what
I
thought?
That's
what
our
focus
is
on.
That's
what
our
focus
is
on
in
relation
to
the
shape
of
this
future
economic
partnership,
which
we
want
to
achieve.
You.
I
B
Listened
to
everything,
a
that
is
communicated
from
this
Parliament,
but
we
know
I
in
the
basis
of
the
you
know,
the
deve,
the
devolution,
a
settlement
where
and
we've
had
this
discussion
before,
where
the
respective
responsibilities
lie.
So,
whilst
I
will
always
listen
to
what's
said
in
this
Parliament
to
the
views
of
this
Parliament,
you
know
ultimately
a
the
responsibility
for
the
nature
of
these
negotiations,
as
I
think
mister
Monsieur.
Mr.
Barney
confirmed
to
you
was
it
was
the
UK
government.
Thank.
I
B
There's
you
know
what's
described
as
an
EU
task
force
so
which
is
in
situ
and
so
that,
whilst
there
isn't
the
formal
nik
near
the
formal
negotiation
process
in
this
in
this
period
negotiations,
discussions
are
still
ongoing.
Of
course
I'm
not.
Of
course,
we
would
have
preferred
that
there
was
a
decision
in
October
by
by
the
council
to
a
proceed
at
that
point
with
discussions
about
the
future
relationship
about
what
I
think
would
have
been
preferable,
but
that
was
that
was
not
the
decision.
B
The
decision
was
how
to
begin
preparations
for
that,
and
that
therefore
indicates
to
me
and
my
colleagues
in
the
government
that
we
that
we
are
in
a
position
to
take
that
we
should
be
in
a
position
to
take
that
forward
in
December,
but
there
is
a
huge
amount
of
work
to
be
done.
I
and
you
know
I'm
very,
very
seized
of
the
amount
of
work
that's
to
be
done.
B
The
amount
of
work
that
we'll
need
to
do
with
the
Scottish
government,
with
with
this
Parliament
in
relation
to
a
lot
of
the
statutory
instruments
and
other
legislation
that
will
require
to
come
through
Parliament.
So
a
you
know
that
would
go
back
to
the
the
clock
is
ticking.
There
was
a
lot
to
be
done
in
a
relatively
short
time,
but
I'm,
confident
with
the
right
spirit
right,
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
do
it.
I'd.
B
This
is
a
negotiation
and
in
any
negotiation
you
know,
financial
arrangements
are
always
there.
They're
always
important.
I
mean
I,
think
that
we
have
made
what
is
a
generous
offer
in
relation
to
a
those
financial
arrangements
were
seeing
through
all
our
obligations.
In
order
to
a
that,
we
have
currently
undertake
in
everything
that
countries
could
expect
that
the
UK
would
be
contributing
to
various
arrangements,
Common
Agricultural,
Policy
and
others.
So
I
think
that
the
financial
arrangement
we've
put
forward
is
a
generous
but
appropriate
one,
but
clearly
the
financial
arrangements.
B
B
Devolved
administrations
are
able
to
feed
in
on
any
issue
or
that
that
they
that
they
wish
to
do
as
I've
said
earlier.
I
do
very
much
welcome
the
fact
and
the
constructive
way
in
which
the
Scottish
Government
has
approached
the
transitional
period.
That
was
something
they
wanted
to
see.
It's
something.
That's
you
know
it's
going
to
happen
and
we
want
a,
but
you
know
it
is.
It
is
a
basis
on
which
a
we
we
would
that
we
would
listen
to
what
was
said
in
relation
to
any
particular
aspect.
B
J
And
finally,
there's
been
much
discussion
today
about
whether
there
will
be
a
deal
or
there
won't,
be
a
deal
and
will
fall
to
WTO
rules.
I
wondered
when
your
recent
visit
to
sky
I
wondered
what
was
highlighted
amongst
the
tourism
businesses
that
you
spoke
to
there
there
at
the
opportunities
that
they
felt
from
breakfast
it
and
perhaps
the
concerns
that
they
had.
And
what
reassurance
did
you
give
them
that
businesses
would
have
certainty
well.
B
I
have
to
say
their
biggest
concern
was
that
during
the
summer
people
had
gone
around
saying
that
sky
was
full
when
it
wasn't,
and
they
wanted
to
make
clear
that
there
was
always
opportunities
for
people
to
go.
Go
to
Sky
I
mean
I,
think
one
I
mean.
Obviously
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
that
business
raises
and
very
very
contem
to
some
business
raises
is
the
availability
of
seasonal
workers
were
very,
very
you
know,
seized
of
that
issue,
and
that
will
be
a
big
part
of
the
work,
I
hope
of
the
migration
Advisory
Council.
B
E
You
can
be
Anna
good
morning
consecutive
state
of
wonder
brief
supplementary
to
government
you'd,
all
in
line
the
Christian
community
before
it
into
a
couple
of
other
questions
and
that's
regarding
the
the
Vorta
to
place
the
Commons
last
night
and
I've
read
reports
us
morning,
they're
claiming
that
the
speaker
Belko
stated
that
the
that
the
vote
last
night
was
binding.
Know.
If
that's
the
case,
then
can
you
tell
the
committee
Wayne
at
the
supports
well
actually
be
published
I.
B
E
If
I've
been
the
case
that
have
been
a
number
of
amendments
have
been
placed
by
then
you
viterbo
placed
by
both
the
Scottish
and
Welsh
Government's.
No,
but
I've
been
the
case
if
you,
if
you
went
to
have
that
United
and
Kisa
free
going
forward.
Well,
the
all
the
UK
car
won't
be
accepting
these
immense.
What.
B
We
take
the
these
amendments
in
the
spirit
that
they
were
offered
to
be
helpful
and
to
make
it
better
at
bill
and
we're
in
detailed
discussions
with
both
the
Scottish
government
Welsh
government
on
the
nature
of
the
amendments,
because
there
are
a
number,
the
number
of
amendments
and
we're
reflecting
on
what
approach
we
will
take
to
those
those
amendments.
But
what
I
can
reassure
him
is
that
we're
taking
them
Satan
you'll,
take
them
seriously.
There
is,
you
know
there
is
a
difference
of
approach
in
terms
of
how
a.
E
You've
already
said
this
morning
too,
that
you'll
always
listen
to
the
views
of
Parliament
Office
Poland,
but
ultimate
it's
up
to
the
UK
government
to
take
part
in
the
discussions
with
was
the
EU,
but
you
can
buy
to
that
point
of
having
a
united
and
cohesive
approach
going
forward.
Then,
surely
not
all
the
amendments
are
going
to
be
rejected.
There
will
be
a
members
that
the
UK
government
can
agree
to
to
have
like
united
and
cohesive
approach
going
forward.
Well,.
B
I
hope
we
can
have
you
know
I
hope
we
can
have
a
united
and
cohesive
approach,
it's
in
our
best
interests
for
everyone
in
Scotland
everyone
in
the
UK,
the
amendment.
You
know
the
amendments
that
withdraw
bill
are
part
of
that
process.
There
are
a
number
of
other
pieces
of
legislation
that
have
alluded
to
a
number
of
other
processes,
but
I
feel
strongly.
You
know
that
we're
in
a
better.
You
know
we
are
in
a
better
position
now
in
relation
to
being
able
to
achieve
that.
I
want
to
achieve
that.
B
E
E
That's
the
situation
no
before
before
any
type
of
agreement
or
any
type
of
free
markets,
Putin
police
regarding
agriculture,
going
forward
so
160
million
pounds
come
back,
will
come
to
Scotland,
weird
it
should
be
coming
to
before
any
framework
discussions
are
taking
place
and
will
that
be
on
the
agenda
on
Monday?
That.
B
B
B
A
B
A
I
could
just
come
back
to
your
initial
line
of
questioning
where
we
talked
about
about
your
evidence
to
the
Scottish
Affairs
Committee,
where
you
clarified
that
you
had.
You
had
not
in
fact
being
indicating
that
there
was
Scotland
specific
Rossio
on
to
the
impacts
of
brakes,
although
that
was
the
wide
interpretation
of
what
you
said
just
a
few
days
after
that
mr.
A
Davis
was
was
giving
evidence
to
the
brexit
committee
and
he
was
questioned
on
that
as
well,
and
he
also
seemed
to
confirm
that
there
was
Scotland,
specific
research
and
that
it
would
be
shared
with
the
Scottish
government
and
he
referenced
your
own
remarks
to
the
Scottish
Affairs
Committee.
So
was
he
misinterpreted
as
well?
I've.
B
Well,
I've
got
it.
I've
got
in
front
of
me
the
the
the
exchange
that
he
had
with
a
miss
cherry
and
I
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
place
your
interpretation
on
a
or
on
those
remarks,
I
mean.
Essentially,
he
said
that
the
matter
had
been
discussed
at
the
JMC.
He
that
what
I
had
said
would
be
followed
through
on
I
mean
that
that's
how
I
that's,
how
I
read
a
the
various
and
a
exchanges
a
there.
You.
B
A
B
A
B
A
G
You
and
a
response
to
Stuart
McMillen
point
by
the
impact
assessments.
I
mean
you
talked
about
working
on
behalf
of
the
UK,
the
national
interest
and
the
best
interests
of
people
here
in
terms
of
try
to
protect
a
negotiating
position.
But
governments
and
Parliament's
across
the
UK
are
elected
to
represent
the
best
interests
of
the
citizens
who
elect
them
and
all
the
citizens
who
live
here.
So
surely
it's
within
the
best
end
trace
of
all
the
citizens
in
this
country
and
across
all
the
nations
of
the
UK
to
know
how
they
their
lives.
B
The
best
interest
of
the
citizens
of
Scotland
and
the
UK
to
get
the
best
possible
deal
for
Scotland
and
the
UK
in
negotiations
with
the
European
Union,
and
it
is
not
the
best
way
to
achieve
that
outcome.
By
sharing
absolutely
every
piece
of
information
that
you
have
not
just
with
your
citizens,
but
with
the
people
that
you're
negotiating
with
so.
G
B
Had
a
referendum
on
whether
we
should
remain
in
the
EU,
those
issues
about
how
a
leaving
the
EU
would
impact
on
people
was
a
saw
were
the
subject
of
the
discussion
in
that
referendum.
When
we
get
to
an
end
point
in
relation
to
these
negotiations,
of
course,
people
I
need
to
and
will
understand
what
the
implications
are,
but
sharing
all
the
analysis,
all
the
facts.
Every
you
know
going
naked
into
the
negotiations
with
the
27
other
countries
will
not
achieve
the
best
possible
outcome
for
Scotland.
J
B
B
Well,
III,
I'm,
sorry
you!
You
feel
that
you,
you,
like
everybody
in
this
room,
had
an
opportunity
to
play
a
part
in
the
referendum.
We're
not
rerunning.
You
know
we're
not
re
running
the
referendum.
The
decisions
been
taken
that
the
United
Kingdom
will
leave
the
EU.
We
need
to
proceed
to
do
that.
We
need
to
proceed
to
do
that,
to
get
the
and
get
the
best
possible
outcome
and
that's
what
we're
seeking.
That
is
what
we're
seeking
to
do
now,
obviously
were
not
in
agreement.
G
I'll
have
to
I
just
have
to
say
that
I
think
that
the
responses
you've
given
today,
they
will
give
me
absolutely
no
confidence
that
a
good
outcome
will
be
achieved
and
I
do
think.
People
are
entitled,
and
people
have
a
right
to
know
how
this
is
going
to
impact
their
lives
and
that
information
needs
to
be
forthcoming.
Well,.