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A
And
the
topics
that
we
have
would
you
like
to
make
a
short
intro?
We
have
the
nathan
who
who's
joining
and
who's
going
to
have
to
get.
You
know
all
of
it
together
and
let
you
from
ta
philosophy
and
dan
has
also
joined
today.
So,
if
you
just
say
hi
and
a
bit
to
yourself
that
yeah
that
the
others
also
get
to
know.
B
Yeah,
my
name
is
nathan
and
recent
member
of
the
tec.
Just
getting
involved
come
from
a
bit
of
a
diverse
academic
background
to
geology
public
administration,
political
science
microscopy-
and
I
found
my
way
here
and
I'm
really
enjoying
it
very
interested
in
problems
associated
with
collective
action
and
getting
technology
into
the
hands
of
people
who
actually
need
it.
So
yeah,
it's
nice
to
meet
everybody.
A
C
So
hello,
my
name
is
I'm
yeah
happy
to
be
here
as
well.
I
really
like
to
be
called
a
philosopher
in
this
group.
Maybe
that's
the
label
we
have
to
just
hold
here,
but,
as
nathan
says,
I
used
to
have
a
very
diverse
background,
mainly
in
law,
political
science
as
well,
but
I've
been
very
interested
in
in
all
the
blockchain
ethereum
space
from
the
very
beginning
and
right
now
like
very
interested
in
this
kind
of
new
models
and
new
things
that
we
can
create
here
in
this
space.
C
D
Oh,
shall
I
go
you
just
thank
you
for
joining
just
reminded
me
that
I
was
so
dan
you're
here,
the
first
time
yeah
yeah.
Can
you
hear
me?
D
Okay?
Okay,
you
just
reminded
me
that
I
was
a
terrible
pain
in
the
ass
to
my
philosophy
teacher
back
in
school
ages
ago,
and
I
got
her
fire
and
I
taught
a
class
after
her
because
I
was
like
so
against
plato
and
and
the
scar
test-
the
card
I
guess
anyway,
and-
and
I
was
reading
niche
when
I
was-
I
don't
know
11
earlier.
I
guess-
and
I
was
like.
Oh
my
god.
D
This
is
the
thing
you
guys
need
to
know
anyway,
I'm
rambling,
but
otherwise
daniel,
I'm
with
commons
stack,
I'm
based
in
latin
america
and
in
caracas
in
venezuela.
I'm
very
engaged
in
the
political,
technical,
world's
empire
of
singularity
university
for
so
many
years
now.
Big
corporations.
So
I'm
in
many
different
networks,
and
I
try
to
find
the
sign
ups
between
them
anyway
and
I'm
rambling
again,
I'm
just
having
my
breakfast,
so
I'm
distracted
but
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you.
A
D
A
Okay,
so
so,
basically,
maybe
also-
I
don't
know
if
you
know
livia
and
and
tommy
and
septimus
as
well,
they
are
community
stewards
and
leading
working
groups.
A
Soft
golf
transparency
and
the
community
stewards
working
group
where
all
of
this
gets
connected,
and
basically
with
this
in
my
background,
is
computer
science
and
to
get
with
the
philosophical
roots.
It's
only
started
last
october,
when
we
were
really
talking
and
meaning
ethical
engineering
and
basically
let
me
share
we
went,
I
went
looking
the
the
other.
A
Basically
went
looking
the
other
area,
the
other
side
of
this
crypto
economics,
flower
and
yeah
philosophy,
law,
ethics.
That
actually
should
be
our.
You
know
that,
in
the
seed
of
the
token
entering
ethos,
because
that
is
what
we
are
saying,
what
tokenizing
commons
should
you
know
nurture
foster
that
we.
A
Ethical
engineering
place,
but
I
can
tell
you
as
a
software
engineer,
this
is
not
what
you
learn
as
part
of
your
training
etc,
so,
and
also
with
ai
ethical
ai.
At
the
recent
awareness
you
you
hear,
or
you
might
have
heard,
that
it
really
is
an
issue
in
the
technology
space
at
large
that,
and
especially
for
us,
as
you
know,
potentially
initial
algorithm
algorithmic
policy
makers
that
we
just
need
to
get.
A
On
this
transdisciplinary
field
that
we
are
really
working
with
many
many
disciplines
together
that
developers
techies
working
really
with
people
from
law,
political
science
and
you
know,
but
but
mostly
I'm-
I
really
want
able
to
reach
out
to
the
people
who
are
like.
Oh,
we
don't
have
time
for
this.
I
need
to
get
the
smart
contract
edit,
audited
and
deployed,
and
I
need
to
fight
off
the
the
dark
side,
hackers,
etc
that
we
find
a
place
for
them
to
actually
make
time,
and
we
also
find
basically
what
are
their
needs.
A
Where
are
they
at
the
moment,
how
far
away
in
their
reality
from
that
type
of
ethical
engineering
that
we
want
to
really
embed
in
in
the
seed
of
the
public
goods?
Also
that
we're
creating
so-
and
I
said
since
this
is
a
new
for
me
at
the
very
least,
a
relatively
new
topic,
which
we
got
really
great
feedback
input
from
fabian
buddha.
A
But
I
just
I'm
super
happy
with
with
more
people
coming
in
and
helping
us
to
to
shape
that
information
that
it's
accessible
to
token
enters.
That
is
practical
for
token
engineers
and,
at
the
same
time,
yeah
just
trying
to
shape
that
information
and,
at
the
same
time
or
through
the
the
community
survey
right
through
formulating
those
questions.
A
And
yes,
so
let
me
get
back
to
and
let
you
please
don't
hesitate
to
ask
or
anyone
else.
If
you
want
to
add
something,
don't
hesitate.
I
just
want
us
to
get
on
on
the
one
page
and
I'm
super
curious
about.
Basically
everyone's
feedback
on
are
we
are
we
doing
this
right?
Are
we
getting
to
to
the
core,
and
are
we
basically
asking
questions
that
will
also
be
practical
or
the
answers
will
also
be
practical
and
relevant
to
what
token
engineering
commons.
A
A
So
if
are
there
any
any
things
that.
C
C
Like
this
is
one
of
the
few
a
lot
or
like
media
models,
we
we
we
can
choose
to
to
reflect
reality
and
I
think
what
we,
the
the
efforts
of
this
group,
is
like
to
try
to
to
put
that
content
into
a
practical
or
an
experimental
knowledge
to
then
be
processed
and
be
applied
to
the
engineering
world.
I
I
like
to
say
like
the
engineering
world,
because,
if,
as
you
as
you
say,
it's
something
bigger
than
maybe
token
engineering,
but
I
know
it's
like
we
need,
like
maybe
a
scope.
C
A
Yeah
yeah
and
I
have
an
idea
I
would
like
to
come
back
towards
the
the
end
of
this
session,
namely
like
this
community
service,
the
first
outreach
and
maybe
even
just
an
awareness
and
then
getting
feedback
really
from
the
token
engineering
community,
but
we're
planning
a
workshop
or
our
workshops
on
this
topic
and,
for
example,
if
you're
interested
to
shape
this
and
get
this
into
a
really
practical
format
which
could
be
in
a
dialogue
or
or
a
session
with
token
engineers.
A
We
could
have
that
as
a
format
where
you
know
I'd
be
super
happy
to
to
to
work
this
together
or,
if
you
just
say
whatever
time
and
effort
you
want
to
put
in.
Basically
even
just
feedback
is
super
super
important,
so
just
mentioning
it
that
you
don't
lose
interest
while
we're
going
through
the
the
current
question
collection
for
them
or
the
community
survey.
A
That's
one
point,
but
we
definitely
also
have
this
workshop
planned.
So
I
have
one
update
that
was
quite
fast
so
from
from
felix,
he
really
wanted
to.
You
know
scope
depending
on
how
big
the
these
these
insights
are,
that
we
have
and
how
you
know,
depending
on
the
participants
in
this
working
group,
what
we
really
can
offer
as
a
working
group
to
the
community
a
workshop,
a
maybe
a
coaching
of
a
lot
around
these
ethical
engineering
questions,
etc
could
be
this
type
of
offers.
A
He
said
that
we
could
also
have
a
token
engineering
commons
gathering
at
the
script
commons
event
that
is
in
june
or
july,
but
he
just
mentioned
to
me
that
he
might
not
be
able
to
focus
on
on
that.
So
the
workshop
or
the
event
is
happening,
but
we
might
not
have
them
have
felix
on
board
because
he
has
some
yeah
other
things
that
came
up.
A
E
Yeah,
we
talked
briefly
about
it.
I
think
that's
a
really
cool
idea
that
we
feel
passionate
about
and
and
I
think
we
could
get
together
soon
to
organize
it,
but
I
feel
like
so
many
things
are
happening
now
that
this
got
a
little
bit
off
the
priorities,
but
we
just
need
to
bring
it
in
the
you
know,
a
bigger
effort
to
put
maybe
in
the
next
sprint,
and
then
we
can
design
something
because
it's
going
to
be
in
july,
right
and
end
of
june
or
july
yeah.
I
feel
like.
A
Okay
cool,
so
basically
we
do
have
the
time
anyways
and
if
you
say
yeah,
we
would
really
like
to
have
that
then,
basically,
the
ones
in
this
working
group
who
are
interested
in
actually
putting
workshop
topics
out
there.
You
know,
basically
we
could
put
the
effort
already
in
parallel
and
then
basically
sync,
I
don't
know,
maybe
in
yeah
end
of
may
june,
right
to
say:
okay,
these
are
workshop
topics
we
would
like
to
do.
We
have
worked
them
out
and
coordinate.
A
A
So
one
workshop
topic-
I
think
everyone
is
excited
about-
is
invisible
economy,
basically
incentive
mechanism
design
to
to
actually
protect
creative
spaces
when
we
know
where
extrinsic
rewards
are
actually
harmful.
So
that
is.
A
That
that
is
definitely
going
to
to
happen
as
the
topic
the
others
were
just
in
there
for
for
reference,
and
I
said
if
you
want
to
you
know
you
don't
have
to
decide
now,
but
if
you're
like
that
was
interesting,
and
we
could
basically
really
check
this
this
these
questions
or
this
fundamental
assumptions
and
worldviews,
and
how
to
put
that
in
a
practical
format
for
token
engineers
to
actually
for
them
to
apply
that
maybe
new
mel
mental
models
that
they
need
for
assessing
in
what
situations
they
you
know
they
need
to
have
their
ethical
mode
of
reasoning
or
ethical
thinking.
A
Cap
on,
I
guess
it's
going
to
be
yeah
some
effort
to
to
get
there.
But
again,
if
we
did
put
these
things
together,
these
topics
together.
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
good
and
interesting
workshop
and
and
again,
I
think,
the
the
ethical
engineering
sides,
if
you
are
interested
in
that,
will
not
just
be
applicable
to
token
engineering.
A
But
of
course,
if
you
are
roaming
in
other
communities
in
other
tech
communities,
I'm
sure
those
insights
we
gain
here
are
also
interesting
to
other
tech
communities,
good,
so
workshops
scope.
So,
first
of
all
we
say
yes
workshop
and
crypto
commons
super
interest
thing
we're
going
for
it
and
basically
the
members.
The
active
members
here
in
working
with
omega
are
highly
encouraged
to
to
shape
topics.
It's
yeah
that
revolve
around
the
the
ethos
of
token
engineering
of
ethical
engineering
of
incentive
mechanism
design.
A
You
know,
but
at
the
same
time
taking
care
of
that.
It's
not
just
mechanistic
systems
that
you're
engineering,
but
socioeconomic
systems,
big
human
factories
in
there,
okay
good-
and
we
have
time
so
now
we
can
get
to
the
questions.
Are
there
any
any
questions
or.
A
Does
anyone
want
to
add
to
workshop
topics,
for
example,.
A
If
not
I'd
like
us
to
go
through
the
questions
that
we
have
gathered,
and
maybe
even
if
you,
if
you
have,
if
you
were
able
to
prepare
some
more
that
you
just
edit
them
together
here.
A
So
we
know
we
have
actually
pretty
practical
questions.
I
think
we
just
need
to
write
them
down.
Then
we
had
these
questions
about
mindset
and
you
know
at
least
bringing
awareness
for
example
about
you
know.
Do
you
know
the
domain
and
culture
in
in
those
economies
in
which
you
are
basically
engineering,
a
token
economy,
for
example,
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
the
more
philosophical
questions
and
potentially,
I
believe
like
this-
could
be
as
teaser.
A
I
think
and
the
the
comments
that
ladies
did
here
were
actually
super
helpful
and
also
yeah
super
helpful
one
second,
so
this
is
coming
to
terms
it's
basically
more
about
like
about
their
views,
so
where
how
did
all
of
this
start?
A
You
know
what
was
the
big
bang
of
token
engineering?
Does
every
one
of
us,
I
think,
have
different
starting
points
why
they
are
driven
to
this,
and
it
would
be
great
to
to
get
those
questions.
Some
are
again.
Actually
how
did
you
get
in
contact?
Are
you
inactive
at
all?
When
did
you
hear
the
first
time
about
token
engineering
etc?
A
And
then
which
backgrounds
they
come
from,
but
then
also
whether
they're,
currently
actively
researching
or
or
participate
practicing
token
engineering,
their
roles,
etc.
Yeah
and
there's
one
aspect
I
assume
or
like
this
is
super
fundamental
actually
like
who's,
that
what
token
engineering
is
and-
and
how
are
we
currently
basically
co-creating
this,
this
knowledge,
where
you
know
where
do
we
get
our
information
from?
A
How
do
we
make
sense
of
those
economies
that
we're
engineering-
and
you
know
we-
we
know
that
we
have
many
different
tools
or
sources
of
information
and
again,
if
you
think
of
every
one
of
us,
as
rather
t
shaped
meaning,
we
are
interested,
and
we
are
acknowledging
all
of
these
disciplines
that
that
make
up
crypto
economics,
but
we
are,
you
know,
only
knowledgeable,
maybe
in
one
or
at
most
and
two
of
those
right
and
yeah.
A
We
have
some
polymers
for
sure,
but
it
is
super
interesting
to
actually
ask
yourself
that
question
like
how
do
I
form
these
insights?
You
know
why.
Why
did
I
buy
ends,
for
example,.
A
A
A
It
is,
it
is
there,
but
it's
at
the
very
bottom.
Second,
are
you
here?
So
it's
yeah
it's
these
questions
here.
You're
welcome!
A
Okay!
Yes,
so
I
would
say
yeah
like
the
questions
that
we
have.
It
would
be
good
that
if
every
one
of
you
really
went
through
them
and
just
gave
feedback,
like
maybe
prioritization,
to
say,
okay,
this
is
really
a
interesting
question.
You
know
not
bothering
about
whether
it's
a
philosophical
or
not.
You
know,
whatever
your
concerns
are
or
your
interests
are,
why
you
are
interested
in
the
community
survey
and
that
you
basically
help
us
rank
or
help
us
curate
through
these
questions.
A
And
then
yes,
if
you
can
add,
for
example,
questions
that
help
us
to
learn
more
about
their
environments
as
well
in
which
they
are
active.
A
I
think
we
could
have
at
and
hear
some
more
and
then
really
any
any
practical
questions,
or
you
say
if
I
only
knew
what
these
token
engineers
think
about
that.
Please
do
do
edit
here,
yeah
and
then
I
would
just
like
to
discuss
this
part.
A
So,
basically,
when
we
have
all
of
the
questions-
and
everyone
had
a
look
and
maybe
helped
us
really
create
in
a
sense
like
design,
interesting
questions
or
add,
more
interesting
questions,
please,
then
we
should
basically
sort
through
them,
and
this
is
one
suggestion
based
on
our
discussions
in
the
top
nintendo
and
philosophy
channel
with
letitia
and
others.
A
There
was
someone
else
in
notes,
I'm
sorry.
I
forgot
the
name,
but
basically
that
we
can.
You
can
have
a
look
at
the
questions,
but
they
are
nicely
sortable
about.
You
know
what
is
as
a
token
engineer
or
someone
who
suspects
themselves
relate
doing
things
related
to
talk
and
saying,
like
what
are
their
real
perceptions
of
what
is
token
engineering
and
their
dreams
could
be
from
you
know.
You
know.
Imagine
someone
like
zargem
answering
this
versus
someone
like
angiograms
answering
this
right.
A
They
both
are
active
in
this
and
andre.
Is
a
software
engineer
a
really
good
one,
but
potentially
you
know,
yeah
doesn't
even
see
themselves
as
active
or
as
token
engineers
or
could
not
even
say
what
is
token
engineer
anyway,
so
that
type
of
range
are
expecting.
A
Then
this
objective
observation
again,
it
will
very
much
likely
depend
on
whether
they
are
new
to
the
token
engineering
community,
whether
they've
been
there
since
the
beginning,
and
there
might
be
really
observations
like
we
became
a
long
way
to
hey.
This
is
utter
chaos
super
exciting,
but
it's
really
too
much
to
take
in
right,
so
that
type
of
questions
then
about
the
perceived
culture,
values,
meaning
of
token
engineering.
A
I'm
thinking
like
this
is
really
these
questions
won't
be
the
ones
one
can
lead
up
with,
especially
like
these
leading
or
this
initial
one
and
two
question
areas
could
really
help
them
to
actually
get
into
the
mood
of
at
all.
You
know,
thinking
more
deeply
about
token
engineering
and
then
maybe
they
will
be
able
to
share
some
some
insights
of
theirs.
A
What
does
that
really
entail
to
to
be
a
token
engineer,
even
if
they
don't
perceive
themselves,
as
you
know,
being
a
token
engineer
active?
But
what
would
they
think
of
a
token
engineer?
What
should
be
the
culture
values
again?
There
could
be.
The
rains
will
be
potentially
huge
and
it
would
be
also
super
cool
to
really
have
even
answers
from
people
who
are
not
very
active
or
really
contributing
in
token
engineering,
but
still
they
they
perceive
this
culture.
A
So
these
are
basically
more
or
less
the
hypothesis
we're
putting
in
and
then
the
about
the
environment
projects.
Token
engineers.
A
In
which
the
top
engineers
are
involved
in
yes
and
then,
basically,
one
area
like
what
yes
or
we
should
rather
say
not
products
and
services,
but
public
goods
that
they
would
like
to
see.
A
To
to
have
in
this
space
as
a
token
engineer,
but
would
be
helpful
resources
for
them,
you
know,
does
it
really?
How
do
you
call
it
educational
materials?
A
Is
it
a
place?
Is
it
standards,
for
example,
are
they
really
waiting
for
any
token
engineering
standards
to
appear,
and
then
they
will
be
interested
in
actually
joining
and
using
or
also
contributing
and
then
to
write
the
generic
questions
I
thought
are
practical
and
and
important
is
basically
the
token
entering
comments
like
this
whole
setup.
A
How
can
that
set
up
support
them
with
funding,
but
also
with
you
know,
maintenance
and
sharing
of
knowledge,
products
and
services?
If
you
will
and
then
also,
basically,
where
can
they
see
themselves
as
supporting
the
token
engineering,
commons,
okay,
one
comment
and
then
basically
I'd
like
to
have
anything
that
is
on
your
mind,
so
I
guess
these
two
question
areas
are
the
practical,
practical
questions
side,
and
maybe
we
should
lead
with
those
and
basically
this
one
about
the
ethos
could
be
the
last
part.
A
E
A
A
A
Yeah,
as
you
see
below,
are
some
more
questions
from
michael
that
needs
sorting.
So
I'm
happy
to
sort
through
any
questions
and
then
comments
you
bring
in
or
yeah
and
also
we
can
do
this.
Basically,
I
was
really
acknowledged.
G
But
yeah,
so
if
I
can
jump
for
a
second,
no
I'm
waiting.
G
Hi
hi
I've
been
lurking
around
and
just
you
know
like
listening
a
little
bit,
because
I
need
to
do
some
other
stuff,
so
I've
been
trying
to
do
sense
making,
and
you
know
you
mentioned,
I
have
like
some
questions,
but
it's
more
like
comments
and
just
thinking
out
loud.
G
There
were
two
bits
that
really
caught
my
attention
and
I
was
wondering
why
one
of
one
of
them
was
around
workshops
right.
So
it's
like
do
we
need
workshops.
Are
people
asking
for
workshops,
since
you
know
like
how
many
people
will
be
there
and
so
on
and
the
other
one
is
when
we
think
about
designing
the
survey.
G
Of
course
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
and
when
there
are
a
lot
of
questions,
people
start
wondering
if
they
are
willing
to
invest
the
time
into
answering
so
again,
you
know
kind
of
pragmatic
question
is
how
many
people
are
we
going
to
to
survey?
You
know
like
how
many
people
do
we
need
to
survey
who
we
need
to
survey
and
so
on,
but
overall
you
know
kind
of
again
thinking
out
loud.
G
I'm
wondering
how
we
can
get
to
the
point
of
having
less
questions
about
stuff
and
and
more,
let's
say
like
decisions
and
answers
to
some
of
our
questions,
so
basically
how
to
make
it
more
tactical
rather
than
strategic,
and
I
don't
have
you
know,
like
specific
answers
just
again,
showing
out
loud
what
was
passing
through
my
brain.
A
Okay,
agreed
agreed
so,
and
I
think
livia
made
this
comment
last
time
that
you
can
have
a
you
know,
please,
if
you
don't
do
anything
else,
you
know
just
give
us
these
three
questions.
You
know
that
there
are
basically
a
three
basic
we
want.
We
really
want
to
get
to
know
you
type,
and
I
said
I
would
but
open
to
suggestions
really.
A
I
would
nominate
like
the
information
about
their
environments,
because
these
are
things
people
can
actually
quickly
answer
right,
like
am
I
active,
am
I
currently
designing
a
token
economy?
Understood
like
how
does
it
look
again?
There
are
some
questions
be
gathered
and
then
outcome
focused,
meaning.
You
know
this
is
a
token
entering
commons.
A
We
are
creating
public
goods
on
and
or
funding
and
want
to
maintain
public
goods
for
and
by
token
engineers.
Where
can
we
support
you?
Where
can
you
support
us
like
this
would
be
the
minimal
questions
of,
I
think,
really
practical
to
know
for
them
about
tokenizing
comments
and
for
us
and
what
are
token,
who
are
the
token
engineering
community
members
and
potential
members
right
and
then
we
can
basically
have
these?
A
A
C
B
C
Questions
people
are
gonna,
be
a
little
bit,
maybe
disappointed
about
this,
but
maybe
you
have
like
five
questions
at
the
beginning.
That
are
only
yes
or
no
are
you
involved
in
this?
So
those
are,
like
you
say,
the
the
questions
to
get
to
know
the
people
that
are
very
quick
to
you
to
answer
like.
Where
are
you
or
maybe
for
absolutes,
and
then
maybe
trying
to
follow
this
model
like
you
have
30
or
40?
C
Maybe
this
five
getting
to
know
the
person
and
then
you
have
10
about
and
what
is
the
very
specific
work
inside
the
community
just
going
for
the
very
very
close
in
the
community
to
towards
the
the
models
at
the
end,
maybe
just
to
construct
building
up
the
questions
on
that
on
that
front,
and
then
you
get
to
the
maybe
the
philosophical
questions
we
you
have
options
and
those
options
depend
on
our
model
because
we
are
doing
the
survey.
So
it's
like
we
are.
C
We
are
just
having
this
input
in
the
surface,
so
maybe
this
time
and
then
you
have
like
the
ones
you
are
saying
about
the
outcome
like
what
do
you
want
to
help
us
with
or
can
how
can
we
help
you?
Maybe
those
are
comments,
so
are
open
like
input
from
the
person
they
are.
Actually
writing.
It's
not
a
question
but
an
open-ended
comment
or
something
like
that.
Yeah.
B
Okay,
I
just
want.
A
B
I
think
that
having
a
community
is
very
important
in
trying
to
inform
how
we
approach
the
the
omega
working
group
and
how
we
integrate
it
into
the
rest
of
the
tec
working
groups.
I
think
it
can
be
very
informative.
B
I
do
think
a
comprehensive
survey
could
be
used,
there's
like
a
requirement
during
the
application
process
for
particular
projects
who
are
wanting
funding
proposals
trying
to
get
to
understand
like
what
they
have
to
engage
with
on
a
daily
basis
and
understand,
like
the
the
ethical
concerns
that
they
have
when
building
their
project
and
trying
to
keep.
B
You
know
this
kind
of
information
exchange
back
and
forth
as
constant
as
possible,
but
outside
of
that,
I
also
see
educating
community
members
about
the
findings
that
we
do
have
is
going
to
be
the
most
valuable
thing
that
we
can
create
from
this
group.
In
terms
of
creating
kind
of
this
social,
mutual
monitoring
across
working
groups
and
saying
hey,
we
have
enough
people
who
understand
these
ethical
issues.
We
have
enough
people
who
understand
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
we're
having
them.
B
Looking
over
the
shoulder
of
the
people
that
are
building
these
these
products-
and
these
these
you
know,
engineering,
yeah,.
C
Those
will
be
like
the
bridging
questions,
maybe
that
you
can
like
connect
those
well
like
what
the
community
is
looking
to
to
to
bridge
with
all
the
communities.
Like
the
token
engineers
with
the
engineering
world
and
those
questions,
maybe,
as
nothing
is
saying,
is
like
providing
the
the
outlook
for
us
to
to
to
get
to
know
what
are
we
looking
for
so,
like
kind
of
informing
the
the
work
forward
and
trying
to
get
the
community
to
know
at
what
point?
Are
they
what
they
need
to
be
informed
about?
A
So
that
is
something
also,
I
think,
mikhail.
You
also
brought
multiple
times
bridging
to
the
disciplines
like
they
maybe
they're,
not
already
in
token
engineering,
but
they
come
from
one
or
two
disciplines,
and
so
you
said
bridging
questions.
C
Do
you
think
your
work
has
like
implications
for
the
the
ai
space
or
something
like
open
and
then
just
trying
to
read
more
specific?
I
think
it's
done
in
this
way,
like
something
open
for
for
you
to
get
the
people
to
to
think.
B
C
It
and
then
providing
another
question
that
is
more
specific.
Like
do
you
think
this
has
implications
with
policies
about
technology,
something.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
the
the
list
of
questions
we
want
to
ask
and
then
from
them
see
which
are
the
ones
that
are
fundamental,
that
that
are
like
that
will
give
us
a
lot
of
information
just
from
them
and
then
put
most
of
them
as
optional,
and
actually
this
is
the
perfect,
the
perfect
setup
for
a
workshop,
because
it's
really
hard
for
people
to
answer
philosophical
questions
and
like
oh,
let
me
stop
between
one
call
and
another
and
jump
into
this
like
super
deep
space.
E
A
Okay,
basically
you're
saying
you
could
have
a
maybe
not
even
a
teaser,
but
just
have
an
awareness
question
or
so
and
then
basically
ask
or
indicate
ask
whether
they
would
be
interested
in
learning
more
about
ethical
token
engineering.
A
Basically,
and
if
we
get
enough,
how
do
you
call
it
if
you
get
enough
answers
and
engagement,
especially
asking
for
such
content,
then
that
would
be
one
workshop
item.
Basically.
B
A
The
the
the
art
of
surveying
does
any
one
of
you
have
actually
experienced
there
like
I've
heard
that
it
does
make
a
difference
even
with
what
questions
you
start
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
in
order
to
be
able
to
you
know
or
even
like
do
we
need
to
be
that
scientifically
appropriate
or
is
it
for
us
a
first,
you
know
deeper
running
contact.
That's
a
very.
C
A
I
mean
if
you
could,
if
we
could
embed
this
really,
as
you
know,
actually,
if
we
have
more
areas
where
we
could
ask
for
is
survey
especially
like
when
they're,
when
they're
entering
the
forum
etc
or
when
they're
creating
a
proposal,
as
nathan
just
said,
maybe
that's
also
an
opportunity
for
us
improving
our
our
survey
skills
before
you
know
over
engineering
this,
this
one
initial
arts
outreach.
G
So
then
I
can.
I
can
drop
a
few
insights
now
yeah,
it's
a
philosophical
question.
In
a
way
when
it
comes
to
you
know
how
to
build
those
things,
because
then
it
also
depends
what
you
want
to
learn
from
the
survey
pragmatic
things
yeah.
G
Normally,
if
you
get
more
than
10
or
15
questions
or
or
even
you
know,
like
less
than
that,
you
have
massive
drop-off
in
most
cases
that
I
saw
if
you
get
to
40
or
60
completion
rate
out
of
a
large
group,
you
know
that's
a
massive
success
already.
In
most
cases,
it's
probably
around
20,
so
any
kind
of
you
know,
like
incentive
schemes
that
you
can
figure
out
will
be
will
be
probably
really
worthwhile.
G
One
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
that
we
try
to
experiment
with
in
a
different
community
was
doing
those
kind
of
like
parties
where
you
would,
basically,
you
know,
fill
in
the
survey.
So
in
that
sense,
maybe
you
know
carving
out
five
minutes
from
some
of
the
token
engineering
meetings
or
workshops
for
doing
those
surveys
is
a
way
to
get
more
completion.
G
Now,
when
it
comes
to
processing
and
user
again,
it
goes
back
to
what
kind
of
insights
you
want.
Some
open-ended
questions
might
give
you
much
better
insights
and
maybe
more
creative
insights
than
close-knit
questions,
and
why
one
of
the
exercises
that
I
really
like
during
workshops
is
a
tweet
from
the
future.
G
So
you
could
ask
you
know
like
what
would
be
a
massive
disaster
of
you
know
token
engineering
in
10
years
or
what
would
be
a
massive
success
from
token
engineering
in
let's
say
five
years
from
technical
point
of
view,
but
a
complete
failure
on
ethical
part
right.
So
then
you
can
get.
You
can
get
some
interesting
insights,
how
people
think,
but
it's
difficult
to
process
and
aggregate
and
then
communicate
so
in
in
those
cases.
G
F
Yeah,
sorry,
I
guess
there's
a
bit
of
light
on
my
side.
I
really
like
all
the
things
that
michelle
is
that
how
I
pronounce
your
name
or
is
it
michael.
G
I
usually
go
with,
I
usually
go
with
michael,
but
yeah.
The
closest
one
would
be
mihao
like
me.
How.
F
So
I'd
like
to
just
add
to
what
mikhail
said,
I
think
there
are
great
ideas.
I
think
the
incentive
will
help
drive
the
completion
and
it
can
be
something
like
a
a
raffle.
So
if
you
fill
out
the
survey,
you
enter
a
chance
to
win
a
prize.
The
prize
could
be
something
cool
from
the
tec
community,
whether
it's
a
t-shirt
or
possibly,
the
trend.
Degear.
H
F
Just
something
to
help
incentivize
people
to
complete
the
surveys,
but
they're
entered
into
the
raffle
from
incentive
angle
and
from
the
open
closed
ended.
I
think
here
the
key
is
the
the
reason
you
know
this
is
not
a
a
physical,
tangible
incentive,
but
you're
helping
the
community
like
this
is
this
is
we're
doing
this
for
the
community?
F
So
if
you
have
a
really
good
reason
to
take
that
15
or
20
minutes
and
sit
down
and
finish
the
survey,
a
really
compelling
reason,
I
think
that's
the
other
thing
that
can
drive
people
to
to
take
the
survey
and
complete
it
and
open
and
closed-ended
questions
again.
As
mikhail
said,
it's
really
compelling
a
lot
of
people
do
like
to
explain
what
they
want
to
say
with
open-ended
questions,
but
probably
the
vast
majority
of
people
just
want
to
click
a
button,
so
it
is
a
delicate
balance
between
those
two.
E
Yeah,
I
will
share
my
screen
quickly.
So
remember
we
did
this
the
survey
in
the
beginning
and
it
was
like
six
questions
and
they
were
somehow
open-ended
and
we
had
like
a
a
range
of
how
detailed.
B
E
G
Sorry,
I
was
not
sure
if
I
was
unmuted
or
not
getting
a
bit
confused
with
the
ui
one
other
thing
about
questions
I
mean.
Sometimes
you
can
ask
obvious
or
leading
questions.
So
let's
say
we
might.
We
might
want
to
have
more
diversity
in
the
group.
So
if
we
ask
it's
like,
should
we
have
more
women
engineers,
people
will
of
course
say
yes
or
like
should
we
have
black
engineers?
I
mean
yes,
should
we
have
you
know
like
younger
and
older
engineers.
G
The
answer
is
yes,
but
the
question
is,
you
know
like
what
how
how
that
would
work
in
reality
right
so
asking
some
of
the
questions
gonna
give
you
leading
answers.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
art
how
to
get
basically
reliable
representative.
E
A
Okay,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
add.
So,
for
example,
because
you
really
have
have
a
thing
for
a
service
and
and
data
would
it
would
be
great
like
if
you,
at
the
very
least
at
the
end,
to
and
they're
not
going
to
be
many
questions,
as
I
said
so,
if
you
can
go
through
them
and
actually
really
try
to
make
it
make
it
round.
A
A
I
want
to
ask
them,
for
example,
if
they
can
share
as
well.
This
is
where
basically,
we
would
need.
We
would
reach
more
people
who
may
be
interested
in
token
engine,
but
not
there
yet
and
then
basically
our
own
channels,
if
I
just
put
in
tech
here
and
and
ask
other
community
stewards,
I
think
we'll
be
fine
right,
or
should
we
look
out
for
more
channels
or
for
more
groups
where
we
can
send
it
out.
D
Oh,
that's
that's
interesting.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question
actually
about
the
channels.
I
had
a
friend
that
I
told
him
a
little
bit
about
the
the
perspective
of
the
intrinsic
motivations
of
this
group
and
he's
actually
one
of
the
leading
dev
braille
guys
from
consensus
ethereum
foundation.
D
B
D
A
Yeah,
but
I
think
it
is
valuable
so
with
that
personally,
what
I'm
interested
in
is
to
get
a
feel
like
how
many
people
we
reach
really
as
as
three
wide
as
possible,
and
even
if
you,
for
example,
you're
from
your
backgrounds,
are
all
political
science.
You
know,
if
you,
if
you
say
hey
actually,
I
do
have
people
who
might
be
interested
in
the
the
bubbles
of
one
discipline
right.
A
Even
that
would
be
interesting
to
really
to
really
reach
out
and
then
basically,
what
is
how
many
people
potentially
and
how
many
people
come
back
and
whether
they're
one
or
two
from
from
those
areas
as
well
would
be
super
interesting
to
see,
or
is
token
engineering
really
our
our
little
our
little
village.
D
Yeah
and
if
you,
if
you
want
to
do
something
in
kernel,
I'm
happy
to
support
you
in
there
as
well.
I
know
we
had
great
and
sean
and
tanner
and
other
people
and
some
people
thinking
in
terms
of
the
incentives.
I
guess
you
guys
had
seen
the
po-aps
the
proof
of
attendance
protocol.
You
can
actually
give
one
of
these
tokens
and
they
can
be
used
as
a
governance
tool,
people
that
had
a
a
specific
pop.
They
can
vote
on
some
something.
So
that's
more
related
to
you
know
the
results
of
the
survey.
D
Are
they
going
to
be
used
in
some
way?
I
don't
know
that
could
eventually
be
like
there
could
be
some
governance
applied
to
them.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
seen
that
for
app
application
on
boarding.
I
can.
I
can
send
it
on
the
on
the
text
channel,
but
it's
it's
it's
cool
anyway.
It's
there.
I
This
was
the
ethereum
foundation
or
consensus,
possibly
it's
mostly
complex.
D
I
mean
we
meet
once
a
month.
They
are
very
interested
in
growing
ethereum
in
latin
america,
so
the
dead
countries
in
colombia
and
austin
griffith
is
doing
like
a
mapping
of
the
whole
ecosystem
kind
of
the
flows
of
people
entering
learning
so
yeah.
I
can
talk
about
both.
A
Cool:
okay,
thanks
a
lot.
E
I
know
we're
on
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
just
want
to
say
something
like
about
this.
I
I
would
be
interesting
to
hear
these
questions
from
people
that
are
working
in
the
field
of
token
engineering,
because
I
feel
like
sometimes
the
confusion
comes
exactly
from
this-
that
there
are
multiple
opinions
sometimes
from
like.
I
A
Okay,
but
but
what
about
this?
You
know
the
the
non-engineering
side
of
things.
I
have
a
feeling
that
yeah,
I'm
really
curious
like
where
to
reach
actually
get
some
like
this
operations,
research,
etc.
I
don't
think
we
have
them
yet
and
we
should
have
them.
For
example,
I
don't
know,
let's
see
your
background,
like
are
you
con?
Are
you
active
in
the
token
engineering
or
token
project,
for
example,
just
to
get
a
get
a
feel.
A
Yeah,
so
so
mostly
so
I
mean
legal
rights,
it's
always
counseling
and
such
so
there
is
this
advisory
role
or
people
actually
who
we
want
to
be
empowered
as
token
engineers
and
also
you
know,
have
the
tools
for
them.
So
it's
not
just
a
software
engineer
doing
the
modeling,
but
actually
it
has
a
nice.
You
know
graphical
interface,
that
also
legal
engineering
can
happen
because
that's
where
the
ethics
parts
come
in.
C
Like
when
you
have
this
bridge,
we
need
to
make
like
those
questions
that
we
try
to
use.
Nothing
says
like
having
this
information
to
be
able
to
breed
those
worlds.
It's
like
a
good
outcome
of
this
of
this
experiment.
Maybe,
but
it's
tricky
to
do
that,
because
if
we
need
to
to
get
a
lot
of
people
answering
this,
you
cannot
make
like
a
different
world
to
to
get
to
you
to
have
all
this
knowledge
so
yeah.
It's.
A
Okay,
yeah
yeah
yeah,
but
I
would
like
us
to
go
bits
further
out
than
just
you
know,
can't
chat
and
actually,
at
the
very
least
that
we
know.
Okay,
we,
you
know
we
have
the
political
science,
people
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
We
have
reached
them
wherever
they
are,
if
they're
involved
in
a
token
engineering
project.
So
we
can
have
this
like
aryan,
modern
token
engineering,
token
project
in
in
any
role,
and
we
ask
after
the
role
etc
understood.
A
So
basically
you
would
say
we'd
rather
go
for
a
small
scope
and
get
the
imminent
and
people
who
will
be
most
yeah,
most
intrinsically
incentivized
and
motivated
anyways
to
to
engage
and
get
them
first
and
maybe
to
reach
outreach
in
a
second
now
I
would.
A
Talking,
okay,
okay,
cool
cool
thanks
a
lot,
so
what
I
will
do
is
try
again
and
maybe
I'll
try
and
sort
a
few
questions
in
here,
but
this
is
our
collection.
Okay,
and
this
is
our
collection.
I
can
try
and
sort
a
few
in
here
already
if
we
could
then
asynchronously
at
the
very
least.
A
Try
to
you
know,
say:
okay,
these
are
the
ultimate
questions
and
then,
basically,
maybe
we
have
another
session
where
a
few
of
us
or,
if
not
everyone,
has
a
time,
but
those
who
are
interested
to
really
tune
the
wording
you
know
and
and
the
ordering
of
the
questions
that
would
be
cool.
Yes,
one
area,
basically
concretizing
what
this
incentive
could
be
if
everyone
can
just
think
about.
A
If
you
know
what
we
can
concretely
do
and
has
can
concretize
that
it
would
be
super
helpful
as
well
that
at
the
end
we
can
just
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
actually
attack
tech.
Swag
is
the
is,
is
the
reward?
Basically
the
extrinsic
reward?
That
would
be
interesting.
We
do
have
text
swag,
right,
tech,
t-shirts.
D
But
yeah,
I
I
put
another
link,
a
huge
community
of
faults
that
are
very
reminded
of
ethics.
It's
a
transformative
tech
guys,
I'm
not
twice
they're
alone,
good
friends
anyway,
yeah
take
care
of
you.
A
So,
for
the
workshop
definitely
we'll
come
back
to
you.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Okay,
basically,
everyone
for,
for
the
great
input.
It's
always
needs
a
bit
of
warm
up,
but
I
think
that's
that's
just
perfect.
Thank
you.