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A
Good
you're,
all
on
sorry
for
being
late
yeah
I
feel,
like
the
the
times
are
getting
shorter.
As
the
world
turns
back
to
you
know,
post
covet,
I
don't
know
how
you
all
are.
Are
you
feeling
that
too,
that
kind
of
yeah,
when
people
all
were
more
more
online,
that
we
had
more
hours
in
the
day.
A
Yeah
so
my
my
energy
related
projects
are
coming
back
and
I'm
super
happy
about
that,
of
course,
but
it's
an
entirely
different
different
world.
So
it
takes
a
lot
more
attention
and
changing
my
mindset.
A
A
But
basically,
of
course,
one
is
the
the
ethics
principles
after
your
talks
or
the
exchange
between
nick
and
durgados,
and
also
before
that
and
in
other
communities.
A
What
I
witnessed
is
the
self
sovereignty,
this
agency
and
autonomy,
which
is
actually
you
know
the
basic
tenet
of
crypto,
crypto
or
cypherpunk
carteret
that
gave
raise
to
crypto
economics
and
it's
very
different
from
just
distributed
systems,
peer-to-peer
peer,
etc,
so
that
that
is
actually
quite
a
big
unsolved
topic.
A
So,
but
I
found
it
wonderful
in
in
our
omega
exchange
in
the
chat
to
follow
yeah
the
exchange
and
also
the
insight
that
nick
and
douglas
shared,
so
that
was
super
interesting
to
see
or
it
it
really
emerged
and
at
the
same
time,
that
is
a
faculty
that
we
need
so
that
this
whole
incentive
mechanism,
design
and
reward
people
to
do
things
doesn't
become.
You
know
this
creme
de
la
creme
of
social
engineering
at
global
scale.
A
So
that
was
something
I
would
like
to
discuss
if
you're
up
for
it,
but
that
that
might
take
a
bit
longer
depending
on
right.
And
the
second
point
is
the
tea
consilience
project.
A
I
think
all
of
you
know
right
and
if
not
please
ask
caesar
you
are
new
right.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
don't
hesitate
to
just
jump
in
and
ask
also
any
clarifications.
Of
course,
we
all
know
it's
very
hard
to
stay
on
top
of
those
topics
that
are.
A
A
lot
and
also
very
diverse,
but
these
are
basically
the
the
two
initiatives
that
were
into
the
t:
ethics
and
the
coincidence,
projects
with
the
library
and
marriage
actually
reached
out
and
said
that
he
has
no
time
and
would
like
to
actually
just
discuss
how
we
can
move
that
forward.
So
I
guess
I
might.
A
We
could
have
maybe
start
with
that,
depending
on
what
you
want
to
share,
but
basically
just
the
brief
update,
then
how
we
could
structure
it
in
notion
is
one
suggestion,
but
maybe
the
others
have
and
then
basically
an
incentive
structure.
First
of
all,
you
know
just
for
people
to
who
might
not
have
been
into
the
reads
of
tokenizing
to
give
them
an
idea
of
how
how
one
can
design
incentives,
and
in
this
case,
for
curation
yeah.
A
That's
one
topic:
if
it's
okay
for
everyone,
I'd
like
to
go
into
that
first
and
the
second
half,
it
can
go
long
and
deep
into
the
ethical
principles
and
most
of
all,
also
how
to
keep
track.
How
to
keep
those
ex
make
those
accessible
again
notion
pages
is
an
option
so
yeah.
A
Okay,
then,
then,
let's
do
let's
go
into
the
t
coincidence,
project
right,
so
so,
basically
we
have
this
document
mart.
You
had
a
look
into
it
right
where
we
already
started
mapping
some
interesting
resources
just
by
the
people
here
who
participate
in
omega
without
you
know
really
dictating
at
all.
A
C
Yeah
so
after
we
talked,
I
look
at
the
like
construct
library
on
notion.
I
found
quite
a
bit
of
examples.
Actually
even
notion
itself
has
like
templates
for
creating
libraries.
C
Look
pretty
for
me,
so
I
literally
learned
about
how
to
like
navigate
it
so
perfect.
Maybe
if,
if
everybody
is
okay
with
notion,
we
will
just
kick
start
a
notion
page
about
this
library
and
laid
it
out
as
a
draft.
Then
we
will
have
a
feedback
session
about,
for
example
like
oh,
this
is
not
incoh.
A
C
C
D
A
D
C
Everybody
to
just
spread
their
articles,
so
it
won't
be
like
beneficial
thing
to
learn.
So
maybe
we
will
incentivize
mechanism,
like
maybe
upwards,
like
reddit,
for
example,
you,
since
you
think
that
you're
a
newcomer,
you
just
click
orientation
like
creation,
usually
you
really
liked
it.
You
just
click
upload,
so
among
orientation,
kind
of
articles
or
creations,
it
will
be
more
on
the
top,
so
people
will.
C
C
A
C
Yeah,
so
that
will
be
good
and
also
we
can
make
like
reputation
points
like,
for
example,
as
te
members,
for
example,
you
are
still
you
are
more
like
experienced
than
let's
say
a
newcomer,
so
your
upwards
will
count.
I
should
I
believe
I
should
count
more
than
let's
say
just
a
person
who
just
joined
tc.
Like
me,
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
I
would
also
say:
let's
start
this
with
the
simplest
and
fun.
Basically,
the
structure
in
mario
is
the
most
important
one
and
that
we
get
it
up
that
we
get
started
somehow
the
creators-
it's
just
you
know,
let's
start
with
us
in
the
beginning
and
start
with
this.
A
Our
network,
of
course
we
can
like
reaching
out
to
the
oh
jesus,
is
not
a
problem
in
a
sense,
but
I'm
really
really
really
always
interested
in
in
the
newcomers,
because
you're
also
bringing
new
perspectives
and
and
the
diversity
basically
again
that
we
discovered
that
this
even
still
is
not
radically
inclusive,
because
it
is
more
academic,
oriented
or
or
assuming
some
background
education
or
places
of
framing.
On
the
importance
of
that.
A
Whereas
at
the
same
time,
we
want
permissionless
global
networks
right,
so
it's
the
ability
to
see
those
gaps
is
really
with
every
new
player.
If
you
will
so
just
as
yeah,
I
would
love
to
find
something
there
that
yeah
some
sort
of
a
waiting
of
like
new
inside.
I
don't
know
something
like
you
know,
someone
who
who's
been
in
the
weeds
that
say
for
four
years
and
someone
new
coming
in
and
the
one
player-
let's
say
who's
been
here
for
three
years-
says:
oh
wow.
I
had
not
seen
that
before.
A
I
believe
that
would
be
such
a
you
know
something
like
I
think
in
source
code,
it's
something
like
power
or
credits
flowing
from
one
to
the
other.
You
know
if
that
comes,
for
example,
from
an
og
to
a
new
entrant
because
they
really-
and
that
is
really
heartfelt.
A
You
know
that
I
think
that
this
could
be
empowering
or
could
could
signal
the
value
of
it
that
we
don't
end
up
in
these
themes.
Oh
you're,
an
apprentice.
Well,
you
have
to
do
two
years
and
three
other
maria
and
then
you
will
be.
A
You
will
have
the
reputation
points,
but
I
think
we
should
definitely
have
a
way
such
that
those
new
insights
that
can
only
merge
because
someone
with
a
new
perspective
is
coming
in
and
as
all
that
it
takes
so
they
could
come
up
with
this
inside
or
with
this
new
yeah
totally
totally
like
for
orientation.
There
is
no
better
suited
source
than
the
new
newcomers,
new
players
no-
and
I
should
definitely.
A
B
D
B
Thing
that
that
we
and-
and
I
don't
know
again
if
this
is
like
v1
or
not,
but
you
you
must
have
seen
token
log
right.
What
yeah.
B
A
B
So
we
could
do
that,
and
I
know
that
source
credit
pulls
a
lot
of
information
from
github
right
and.
D
B
Log
2,
so
when
you
create-
and
so
I
actually
have
played
with
token
log-
and
I
have
done
like
voting
stuff
there
right,
so
you
basically
create
an
issue
in
github
and
that's
what
gets
surfaced
right
and
if
you,
if
you,
if
I'm
a
car,
I'm
really
interested
in
that
I
click
on
it.
And
then
it
takes
me
to
the
document
right
that
that
lays
out
the
proposal
right.
But
I
mean
I
could
look
into
that.
I
can.
B
B
To
the
the
giving
of
of
credit
right,
if
we.
A
A
A
At
it
already,
yes,
yes,
it's
super
nice
everyone,
so
please
share
it
super
insightful
it.
It
tells
things
that
we
have
heard,
but
much
more
pointed
so
and
basically
what
we
can
really
look
into,
like
I
think
number
one
again
is
really
the
the
structure
that
we
get
started
at
first.
A
One
thing
would
be
you
know
if
we
can
already
sort
in
notion
right
that
we
have
this,
you
know
top
five
visibility
kind
of
as
being
you
know,
and
those
that
can
move
upward.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
already
comes
with
notion.
We
could
already
play
there
with
those
bounties
and.
E
A
See
how
that
works
out
if
it
is
not
possible
in
in
option,
because
at
the
end
it's
just
in
quotation
marks,
it's
just
a
database
token
lock.
Definitely
I
would
have
also
thought
so
and
source
grid
is
basically
both
of
them
are
in
use
in
token
engineering
commons.
So
you
you're
not
on
your
own.
A
If
you
want
someone
to
to
help
you,
we
can
find
someone
who
has
already
set
it
up,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
someone
in
the
group
here
already
done
so
no
so
we
can
definitely
have
have
someone
helped
there
or
shortcut.
Basically,
you
just
tell
me
like
if
you
would
like
to
have
an
overview
of
how
those
two
are
used
in
in
token.
A
B
B
A
Exactly
so,
no
no
totally
take
take
your
your
time,
and
if
you
want
to
to
have
shortcuts,
then
we
can
I
I
can
arrange
a
session
and
I'd
like
to
also
learn
more
about
it.
So
definitely
would
be
games.
Why.
B
A
Okay,
I'll
ask
I'll
tag
you,
but
what
would
be
really
wonderful
if
you,
if
you
know
like
math,
to
go
and
said
I'm
gonna,
look
into
notion
how
to
make
it
if
this
is
anyway
something,
and
why
did
that
interest
you
if
you
can
just
take
the
lead
to
get
people
together
like
I'll,
be
in
there
but
finding
a
time,
etc
or
asking
people?
That's
my.
How
do
you
call
it
kryptonite
yeah.
B
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
so
yeah.
If
notion
has
the
upvoting
functionality
already,
then
then
yeah,
maybe
we
can
stop
it
or
we
can
not
use
token
log.
The
only
thing
with
talk
and
log,
which
I
think
would
be
interesting,
is
the
ability
like
I
can
mint
a
token
right.
That's.
D
A
B
With
quadratic
voting,
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
conviction.
A
Right
exactly.
B
A
A
D
A
And
I
guess
people
here
in
omega,
maybe
they're
more
interested
to
just
use
it,
and
you
know
just
waiting
resources
that
they
find
useful
might
be
just
the
scenario
that
gets
them
to
use
token
lock
and
the
tooling.
Basically,
and
that's
what
I
really
like,
the
suggestion
that
we
use
the
same
tooling
same
infrastructure
to
get
people
to
use
to
to
learn.
B
A
C
No
go
ahead,
please.
You
were
saying
something.
A
Not
just
I
haven't
looked
into,
but
if
you,
if
you
research
and
you
don't
come,
come
up
with
something
that
seems
to
cut
it
like,
I
don't
know
sorting
or
upvoting.
A
If
you
look
for
it
and
you
come
out
empty
just
after
a
short
search,
if
you
just
basically
ping
roberto
on
the
discord
and
also
use
the
chat,
so
everyone
else
is
also
in
the
know
what
you're
doing
that
would
be
it
right,
just
a
short
search
if
if
one
could
use
it
and
if
yes,
we
just
use
it
already
to
to
play
with
it,
but
token
would
be
interesting
in
any
case
because
will
definitely
or
as
a
group,
we
should
definitely
ask
for
budget
for
these
projects
just
to
have
first
of
all,
a
distribution
mechanism
for
token
engineering
or
for
tech
tokens
right,
but
I
don't
know,
I
think
they
will
take,
might
be
more
time
than
we
want
to
get
started.
A
So
not
to
be.
You
don't
have
to
wait.
We
can
start
with
those
play
tokens
even
but
at
some
point
this
can
be
a
nice
way.
A
This
literally,
this
library
can
be
a
nice
way
for
actual
usage
of
token
engineering
or
tech
tokens,
and
also
to
connect
it
with
other
communities
like
metagame
right
because
they
were
planning
a
meta
library
where
basically
path
suggested
that
we
could,
you
know
just
add
this
to
their
section
on
crypt
economics
and
at
the
same
time,
we
can
also
try
out
test
the
my
meta
profiles
for
the
curators.
A
You
know
for
for
these
new
new
ratings
or
reputation,
we
can
basically
use
and
test
what
my
meta
enables
there
and
that's
basically
more
or
less
again
a
playground
for
people
to
connect
through
different
communities,
exchange
knowledge
and
tokens.
If
you
will
right
so
that's
why
definitely
talking
log
go
ahead
right
because
I,
I
believe,
we're
going
to
use
it
in
any
case.
A
B
A
C
C
C
I
think
we
can
kick
start
like
this.
Then,
if
we,
if
it
is
obstacle
like
the
limited
features
of
notion,
we
should
lose
something
else.
B
Yeah
agree
yeah,
I
I
I
agree.
I
think
that
maybe
only
the
proposal
stuff,
I
would
take
off
notion
because
notion
is
really
good
right
to
to
coordinate
and
and
put
a
lot
of
knowledge
into
it
but
yeah.
I
think
that
I
I
would
think
that
notion
will
always
be
there.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
and
and
then,
if
we
want
to
do
these
edge
things
with
tokens
and
things
that
would
we
would
take
that
out
of
there,
but
I
I
agree.
It
makes
sense
to
have
no
chance.
A
And
basically
feel
free
really
to
run
with
it
and
then
also
to
to
ask
people
to
join
and
and
spar
like
the
structuring
or
the
content.
Putting
the
content
into
the
structure
merits,
I'm
always
game
just
yeah.
Sometimes
we
need
a
ping
basically
and
also
others
who
are
who
are
interested.
A
I
don't
know
cesar.
Would
you
like
to
share
whether
you're
following
and
this
makes
all
sense
you
you
get
the
gift
or
do
you
have
any
questions.
D
A
No,
no
just
feel
welcome.
I
just
wanted
to.
Sometimes
people
don't
speak
up,
although
they
have
a
lot
valuable
insights
to
share.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
feel
feel
feel
welcome
to
to
share
any
time
when
you
feel
like
it.
A
E
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
yeah
yeah.
I
definitely
I'm
definitely
interested
in
helping
set
this
up
for
sure.
Actually,
this
part
here
about
the
tec.
Tokens
next
aligns
with
the
dashboard
idea
that
I
proposed
like
like
a
couple
weeks
ago
or
something
where
we
would
just
have
a
dashboard
where
people
can
just
create
posts
and
vote
with
their
tc
tokens
and
then
gain
reputation,
but
yeah,
that's
cool
that
aligns
with
very
far
in
the
future
kind
of
thing.
So
I'd
love
to
help
with
with
the
startings
of
it.
E
A
Okay,
so
perfect,
and
also
I
know
lettie
she's
into
it.
So
definitely
yeah
definitely
perfect.
Look
look
forward
to
it
and
also,
if
there's
need
for
structuring.
But
I
guess
it's
pretty,
I'm
saying,
let's
start
with
this,
but
also
quite
open
to
actually
first
of
all
make
clear
that
we're
really
interested
in
the
the
overlap
of
both
the
humanities
and
the
engineering
heavy
sites,
but
also
not
only
right.
A
Maybe
we
really
have
a
freestyle
cryptic
cryptoeconomics
or
this
section,
and
there
were
actually
some
some
links
already
in
in
the
one
document
where
I
would
say
hey.
This
is
even
you
know,
crypto
economic
system
native
because
it
tries
to
already
capture-
or
it
has
already
captured
the
synthesized
view
of
more
than
just
one
pattern
like
looking
at
crypto
economics
from
just
game
theory,
but
not
only,
but
also
from
psychology
decision
making
computer
science
ai
that
type
of
overlaps.
A
A
So
next
topic
would
be
te
ethics,
principles,
d,
e,
token,
engineering,
ethical
principles,
and
we
had
one
focus
group
already
right,
where
basically,
the
the
og
token
engineers
and
and
the
token
engineers
in
the
trenches
who
actually
apply
and
model
so
mostly
from
the
technical
side.
If
you
will,
where
we're
asked
to
participate
and
then
share
their
more
or
less
pain,
points
right
when
it
comes
to
making
decisions
and
those
decisions
being
a
typical
dilemma
like
there
is
no
right
or
wrong,
it's
just
going
to
be
a
difficult
decision.
A
Yeah,
starting
from
that
focus
group,
and
we
even
again
last
week,
we
put
it
together
in
this
sessions
list.
We
also
really
have
people
working
towards
making
those
principles.
Not
just
yeah
acknowledge
different
worldviews
if
you're
lucky,
you
might
know
what
that
means
right,
but
actually
really
working
through
accepting
that
there
are
multiple
world
fields
always
and
most
likely.
You
have
not
just
one
two
but
the
multitude
of
those
present
in
the
token
economy,
you're,
creating,
etc.
A
And
then
how
do
you
work
through
that
as
a
token
engineer,
as
a
participant
as
a
practitioner
anyways,
because
those
different
worldviews
are
actually
the
the
the
source
of
those
dilemmas
emerging
if
they
emerge
and
then
actually
they
can
be
transformed,
but
oftentimes,
it's
even
those
parallel
worldviews
exist
and
people
thinking
and
acting
only
in
their
world.
We
use,
don't
even
touch
the
other
ones.
A
Explanations,
etc.
So
we
have
this
acknowledge
different
worldviews,
reflect
on
the
dynamic
landscape,
but
literally
decision
making
frameworks
when
there
is
not
just
one
best
practice
to
follow,
but
it's
actually
dynamic
landscape.
A
Of
course,
as
a
token
engineer
like
really
make
understandable
what
it
is
that
has
been
embedded
as
incentives.
Why
and
how
people
can
actually
be
part
of
the
design
of
those
incentives
or
at
least
be
part
of
changing
those.
After
seeing
how
they've
been
affected
by
those.
A
And
the
third
one
from
this
enable
informed
participation.
Actually
that
started
this,
this
great
thread
from
from
nick
and
dog
with
us
and
then
yeah.
It
was
basically
all
about.
A
Having
you
know,
we
have
these
memes
or
these
sentences
floating
around
right,
not
your
keys,
not
your
coins
or
do
your
own
research,
but
these
are
exactly
actually
calls
for
participation
for
saying
this
technology
is
giving
an
agency
autonomy.
What
are
you
going
to
do
and
it's
very
powerful?
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
that
power
when
you
participate
when
you
vote,
when
you
propose
things
how
right
it's
literally
before
you
even
start?
A
How
do
you
form
these
these
yeah
beliefs
in
the
first
place?
As
you
hear,
that's
the
that's
the
one
aspect
of
talking
entering.
I
I
personally
struggle
with
the
most
and
I
think
it's
really
the
deepest
and
it
really
you
know
token
engineering
can
be
a
likened
to
system
engineering
a
lot,
and
we
can,
I
think,
really.
The
technical
part
is
clear.
It
is
tough,
yes,
but
it
can
be
handled
or
okay
coming
from
the
technical
side,
it
is,
it
seems,
like
yeah,
it's
complicated,
but
we
can
deal
with
it
right.
A
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
other
way
around,
you
know
actual
people
who
who
are
more
active
on
this
at
the
social
interaction
level.
I
don't
know
economics
or
just
community
building
or
just
being
a
sociable
person
in
the
first
place,
whether
that
is
super
clear,
of
course,
self-sovereignty
and
community.
A
This
play
between
autonomy
and
the
community,
autonomy
and
interdependence.
That's
what
you
know
draws
you
in
there
and
you
you
feel
super
yeah
like
a
fish
in
water
and
then
you're,
basically
just
baffled
by
software
engineering,
financial
engineering.
That
would
be
an
interesting.
A
This
new
one,
beware
of
social
engineering.
Does
that
sound
well
with
you
or
do
you
say
I
cannot
relate?
I
don't
know
what
what
is
really
meaning.
What
that
really
means.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
all
of
those
are
super
interesting
headlines
right
and
and
what's
what
what
catches?
My
eye
is
that
you
know
there's
kind
of
like
inherent
tensions
between
all
of
them
right,
one
like
so
yeah
social
engineering.
Beware
of
that
just
in
general
right,
but
then
almost
like,
almost
like
in
in
a
counterpoint
to
that
is
like
oh
what,
but
we
need
to
build
a
community
and
we
need
to
build
social
norms
and
we
need
to
be
so.
B
D
B
E
B
Self-Sovereign,
individual
rights,
maybe
right
but
from
a
community
perspective,
there's
a
ton
of
benefits
to
to
having
immune
heart
immunity
right.
So
all
of
those
are
really
interesting,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
solve
them.
I
think
that
they
just
pose
the
tensions
like
they
kind
of
like
surface
those
tensions.
A
He
is
behind
all
of
this
meaning
like
he
he
he
was
this
first
person
actually
really
deep
in
those,
but
I
think
yeah,
uncomputable
things
and
and
basically,
but
also
being
a
computer
science.
You
know
being
able
to
speak
a
language
that
I
understand
that
didn't
sound
woohoo.
A
It's
actually
how
this
all
started
right-
and
this
thing
is
what
he
just
mentioned-
was
really
metaphor
of
a
lighthouse.
A
That
basically
shines
light
on
or
even
shines
light
from
a
place
that
is
dangerous,
but
it
doesn't
steer
a
ship
away
from
that.
Like
literally
light,
you
know
what
that
means.
You
know
you,
you
don't
drive
into
that
rock
or
steer
into
that
rock,
but
it's
still
in
your
hand.
A
Right
I
mean
you
might
be
sleeping
or
you
might
not
be
fully
there,
but
just
knowing
that
there
is
something
that
can
shine
light
right,
that,
as
you
said,
surfaces,
those
dilemmas
saying
we
can't
maybe
not
solve
it,
but
just
to
know
for
every
individual,
and
maybe
then
also
you
know
I
we
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
solved
as
we
know
in
token
engineering
comments,
we're
starting.
A
A
A
This
dynamic
landscape
and
just
number
one
is
just
be
comfortable
that
those
dilemmas
will
arise
and
be
comfortable
that,
based
on
your
framing,
you
know,
if
you
say,
I
have
to
sacrifice
autonomy
for
community
if
that
is
the
framing
like,
if
that
was
a
scale
where
you
can't
have
dots
in
here
as
well
as
dots
in
here
or
even
personally,
I
think-
that's
also,
you
know,
believes
our
own
belief
systems
like
I
come
from
turkey,
and
I
grew
up
then
later
in
germany,
cultural
belief
systems
and
how
different
they
are
and
how
different
they
make.
A
These
are
super
interesting
things
just
to
become
aware
of,
but
then,
if
you
could
really
give
that
as
a
tool
as
a
compass
as
a
sensor,
however,
this
looks
like
this
ie
from
the
invisible
economy
from
the
stada
artist.
A
Collective
is
something
that
drew
my
attention
a
lot
because
it
shows
those
tensions
or
why
tensions
arise
right
and
literally,
they
put
dada
in
the
middle
of
the
intensive
meaning,
believing
that
there
are
actions
that
don't
sacrifice
autonomy
against
interdependence,
but
there
is
an
action
space
where
you
act
and
you
feel
fully
autonomous
and
your
action
is
actually
filling
up
the
community.
A
Well,
the
same
thing
like
you
earn
money
right,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that's
by
externalizing,
the
the
bad
for
maximizing
your
profits,
externalizing
on
on
on
greater
or
yeah
externalizing,
the
cost
on
the
greater
good
just
to
maximize
your
basic,
your
material
outcome.
So
when
you
look
at
it,
I
I
always
say
like.
Aha,
these
are
the
epiphanies.
It's
like.
A
I
think
humans
have
been
talking
about
these
things
for
ever,
maybe
since
they
started
talking
right-
and
these
are
things
that
one
cannot
solve
for.
A
But
just
the
awareness
and
the
awareness,
I
think
it's
super
important
because
I
don't
know
how
you
all
think
and
maybe
please
do
share.
I
will
take
a
break
and
give
space
so
so
that
you
share.
But
if
you
are,
for
example,
really
a
problem
solution,
if
that's
been
a
mindset
that
you've
been
used
to
your
whole
career
learning
and
basically
apply
it.
A
Then
you
don't
even
think
that
way.
You
have
actually
very
linear,
optimization
systems
and
that's
basically
called
you
know,
keep
it
simple
right,
but
that's
also
just
truncating
literally
that
we
don't
have
a
co2
priced
in
into
the
cost
of
goods
that
we're
consuming.
A
B
A
And
yeah,
please.
C
C
C
C
A
Definitely-
and
I
added
guiding
principles
as
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
misunderstood,
I
mean
I
I
hope
it
cannot
be.
I
was
more
thinking
like
what
do
you
think
of
bizarre,
I
would
even
say
not
acknowledge,
but
host.
A
A
A
So
those
sessions
should
make
these
big,
guiding
or
rough
guiding
principles
more
tangible,
but
for
sure
also
the
outcome
literally
will
be.
There
is
no
recipe.
There
is
no
like,
for
example,
astrum's
principles,
questions
yeah.
These
are
principles,
right,
astronomers
principles
for
managing
or
yeah
for
managing
commons,
perfect.
A
A
A
That's
basically
that
that's
basically
it's
bureau
of
social
engineering,
but
then
how,
when
we
are
doing
incentive
mechanism
design
and
then
coming
up
with,
maybe
this
right
coming
up
with
lighthouses
or
sonars,
maybe
it's
just
the
best
possible
thing
we
we
have
on
offer
right
now
in
this
group,
but
then
again
that
gives
opportunity
to
see
what
similar
things
are
being
explored
in
other
taos
in
in
other
communities,
having
a
place
that
people
can
come
in
and
learn
more
or
exchange
on
these
topics.
A
I
think
that's
what
that's
what
the
omega
working
group
should
be
or
become
like,
even
if
we
have
done
these
done
done
our
work.
I
would
love
this
group
to
be
here
to
exchange,
to
share
new
new
insights
anything
related
to
these
difficult,
but
actually
very
rewarding
questions
that
that
would
be.
A
That
would
be
my
wish,
even
if
I
know,
and
at
least
in
the
in
a
month's
time
I
will
I
will
be
mia,
so
I
would
love
to
for
us
to
have
a
have
a
have
set
this
up
basically
or
have
gone
into
a
rhythm
that
people
can
come
in
contribute
if
they're
gone
for
two
three
weeks,
they
they
know
they
can
come
back
and
there
are
still
people
here
actually
exchanging
on
those
topics
and
then
gathering
information
and
knowledge
on
these
topics.
A
A
So
thanks
a
lot
for,
as
always
for
your
participation
and.
C
Input
one
last
request
for
me:
could
you
open
a
notion
like
I
haven't?
I
don't
have
access
to
the
tc
notions
page.
So
maybe
can
you
grant
me
some
access
like
limited
access
to
create
like
template
library.