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B
Oh,
let's
see,
let's.
D
B
B
There's
this
group
called
the
mutation
salon
which
talks
about
gene
gemster's
integral
work
every
week.
A
B
A
So
what
what
times
just
a
question
like
if
we
changed
what
time
would
it
be
because
some
people
also
asian
time,
were
asking.
B
A
Also
think
about
maybe
thursdays
or
so
I
don't
know
what
I
could
do
you
know
hope
dies
last.
What
I
could
do,
maybe
is
just
send
round
a
doodle
with
sometimes
just
to
see
the
flexibility
of
the
group
and
if
it's
the
possibility,
maybe
we
could
we
could
shift
days.
So
because
it's
my
evenings,
I
actually
I
could
do
also
thursday
or
maybe
earlier
because
it's
the
time
of
the
token
drink
commons
community
call
but
yeah,
but
that's
about
it.
A
I
can't
do
any
other
day
either,
but
let
let's
just
ask
in
the
group
also
I'm
curious
like
whether
they
maybe
there
are
clusters
and
maybe
we
can
do
twice
or
different
sessions
and
so
on
hi
manu.
A
So
I
think
steph.
If
I'm
right,
steph
is
joining
a
new
from
motion
down,
but
I
also
see
he's
got
a
problem
with
his
audio.
It
didn't
connect,
that's
how
it
looks
like.
A
Okay,
okay,
so
let's
see
whether
he
he
can
fix
it
yeah,
okay,
but
other
than
that.
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
the
agenda,
mostly,
I
think,
would
be
great
if
he
can
give
space
for
mert
and
the
updates
he
did
on
the
token
engineering
consilience
project.
Basically,
the
the
library
where
we
put
together
created
materials
that
basically
helped
us
to
onboard.
A
To
get
on
board
with
the
many
rabbit
holes
of
token
engineering
and
crypto
economics
matt:
do
you
do
you
want
to
just
start
sharing.
F
B
A
Enjoy
your
meal,
don't
worry
and
you
can
you
can
mute
while
not
speaking
so
wow
matt,
let's
go
it's
super
cool
to
see
so.
D
D
D
So
as
as
we,
as
the
initial
document
said
like
we
will
have
like
seed
creators,
initial
creators,
so
maybe.
E
D
After
we
decide
structure
we
can
discuss
like
parameters
like
how
do
we
like
allocate
reputation,
points?
How
how
how
long
will
we
have
like
creators
who
will
be
the
benevolent
dictators
in
like
quote-unquote
like,
for
example,
to
me?
We
will
discuss
on
this,
but
to
me
let's
say:
durga,
das,
manu
and
shayna.
You
like
have
more
experience
than
us
like
steph
and
me
in
token
engineering,
so
you
will
have
like
better
understanding
of
which
kind
of
library
would
you
like
to
present.
D
We
will
have
like
bounties
for
top
creators.
I
think
we
should
somehow
like
like.
We
could
somehow
create
your
points
to
be
cool
in
terms
of
getting
the
bounty.
So
maybe
people
don't
want
to
like
people
will
get
like
the
conversation
of
nepotism
or
something.
So
maybe
I
thought
about
it.
We
can
discuss
on
this.
D
A
Basically,
it's
also
not
just
benevolent
dictator,
but
also
really
how
to
moderate.
Until
basically,
there
is
a
baseline
that
people,
people
who
contribute
know
what's
the
direction
or
or
what
is
base
value.
Basically.
G
A
No,
that's
that's
very,
very
true
and
and
valid,
and
that's
basically
also
one
of
the
decision
making.
A
Patterns
that
works
right,
the
benevolent
dictator
for
life,
from
open
source
networks
and,
however,
I
think
we
were
already
starting
pretty
if
you,
for
example,
multi-discipline
for
lampilan.
When
you
show
this,
I
like.
D
A
No,
I
I
like
it.
It
warms
my
heart
mat
so
when
you
show
this
a
crypto
economics
flower,
just
briefly
also
for
for
staff,
for
example,
I
know
they're
coming
also
in
in
motion
now
it's
also
about
sharing
knowledge,
etc.
A
So,
in
our
case,
in
in
token
engineering,
we
actually
have
a
baseline,
like
what
is
this
whole
crypto
economic
space
that
we
want
to
cover
right,
the
different
versions
etc.
So
this
is
where
we're
starting
and
that's
the
last
thing.
It
will
be
easier
to
moderate
because
we
can
always
basically
say
fall
back
to
in
the
beginning.
A
A
That
would
be
you
know
the
starting
criteria,
kind
of
the
starting
structure
and
writing
that
down
will
help
us
a
lot
to
actually
initially
start
creating
and
once
there
is
content,
I
think
so.
That's
why
we,
I
would
say
the
moderation
in
the
beginning,
before
even
creation,
right,
helping
people
to.
A
Well,
maybe
maybe
keep
keep
track
of
it,
because
I
wanted.
You
know
that
we
have
one
dry
run
of
what
what
structure
we
have,
so
that
also
people
can
actually
self-select
to
to
help
support
the
development
of
the
library,
because
at
the
end,
yeah.
D
B
D
Behind
that's
in
the
manifesto
part
like
we
talked
really
talk
about
crypto
economics,
ethics,
a
lot
probably
more
than
most
other
like
projects,
so
I
think
we
can
increase
that
narrative
in
our
manifesto,
so
it
will
kind
of
it
will
create
some
sort
of
uniqueness
to
our
library
and
the
third.
We
might
help
create
like
we
write
like
what
we
want
from
them
like,
for
example,
we
talked
about
it's
not
about
like
technocratic
best
sources,
library,
it
will
be
about.
D
Experience
in
your
cryptocurrency
journey,
so
it
will
we
can.
We
will
tell
like
what
we
want.
Basically
in
the
creation,
then
I
wanted
to
make
a
section
called
tasks,
so
we
can
assign
tests,
so
contributors
will
go
there
if
there's
a
like
open
task
and
they
are
interested
in
library
like
me,
they
can
easily
find
repeat,
etc.
So
it
will
be
good
and
there's
contact
and
promotional
material
is
basically
like.
We
can
create
some
sort
of
like
library
batch
or
something
like,
for
example,
those
things
which
I
find
kind
of
cool.
A
Cool,
that's
really
cool
that
we
can
actually
reuse.
A
D
F
F
It's
it's
it's
a
platform,
that's
trying
to
gamify
the
the
knowledge
base
of
daos
so
kind
of
going
into
their
their
git
book
and
then
creating
quests
and
bounties
like
creating
a
structure
that
that.
F
Quests
and
bounties,
with
and
and
also
we
have
this
interesting
idea
of
like
a
dynamic
nft,
which
is,
I
think,
what
what
matt
was
trying
to
get
at
with
the
profiles
and
and
it
functions
like
like
an
updating
tv
where,
depending
on
the
quests
or
the
bounties
or
the
issues
whatever
it
is,
you
you've
been
completing
in
your
squad
or
in
your
work,
working
group
or
in
the
work
stream,
because
git
coin,
you
get
also.
B
F
A
microphone
where
it
fits
in
your
profile
and
then
after
a
while
people
can
actually
see
what
you're
competent
in
based
on
the
work
that
you've
actually
done,
based
on
the
deliverables
that
you've
completed
as
opposed
to
the
current
I
I
guess
the
closest
thing
is
on
linkedin,
where
you
raise
your
friends,
but
everyone
knows
that
your
friends
trade,
you
because
they're
your
friends
right.
This
is
like
it's
a
way
to
to
it's.
F
It's
a
way
to
create
a
more
engaging
medium
where
people
can,
even
later
on
get
paid
to
learn,
earning
to
to
yeah
to
learn
like
like
bitcoins,
you
know
objectives
but
but
yeah.
It's
it's
a
whole
thing.
Super.
A
A
Super
cool,
basically,
that's
also
is
this
also
connected
to
the
skill
tree.
It's
not
an
alliance,
but
it's
a
group
yeah
perfect,
perfect.
A
Perfect,
so
that
that
was
exactly
the
the
corner,
I
was
hoping
us
to
land.
Also
with
you
know
just
putting
this
library
together,
but
then
also
actually
kind
of
you
know.
Okay,
this
is
what
you
say.
Is
that
the
knowledge
that
you
want
to
jump
together,
bring
together
and
also
want
to
actually
see
people
who
have
been
through
the
multiple
petals
of
the
crypto
economics,
flower
and
and
have
gathered
experience
published?
A
What
have
you
read
and
if
we
can
basically
a
alpha
test,
whatever
is
coming
from
that
ecosystem
part
and
at
the
same
time
yeah
test
it
and
use
it
and
help
us
to?
Actually,
you
know,
find
those
people
and
also
connect
them
directly
through
the
library
and
through
their.
B
But
I
want
to
ask
a
question
whether
or
not
one
of
one
or
more
of
you
could
help
me
the
moment.
Anyone
says
the
word
gamified
I'm
gone.
I
have
no
clue
what
it
means.
That
means
I'm
not
gonna
connect
with
your
group.
I'm
not
gonna,
have
any
clue
what
you're
doing
I'm
I'm
just
gonna
bail
so
like
I
just
honestly
like
like
met
a
game
like
I'm
there,
I'm
cool
love
the
people
and
everything,
but
what
in
the
world
are
you
doing
in
there?
I
have
no
concept.
B
Space,
what
in
the
world
does
that
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
take
over
the
space?
I
just
need
somebody
to
like
get
me
over
this
hump
like
I
just
do
not
get
it.
It's
complete
blockage
for
me
and
I
just
didn't,
want
to
derail
the
meeting,
but
I
just
feel,
like
you
know,
of
all
the
people,
I
could
ask
that
question
of
it's
just
you
know
I
just
feel
like
I'm
missing
something,
and
it
seems
like
this
is
all
anyone's
ever
talking
about.
B
F
I
have
a
take
on
that.
The
the
I
understand
that
the
concept
is
like
trite
by
now
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
trying
to.
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's.
B
B
All
I
hear
is
we're
going
to
more
deeply
ingrain
ourselves
into
assumed
dualities,
so
we're
going
to
gamify
everything
which
means
that,
instead
of
going
toward
the
unified
way
of
thinking
we're
going
to
more
deeply
ingrain,
I
mean
the
whole
problem
with
the
centralized
situation
was
that
it
was
gamified.
B
A
A
It
would
be
actually
nice
to
have
you
know
you
enter,
you
enter
a
discord,
and
actually
there
are
people
to
who
welcome
you.
I
don't
know
what
was
steph's
experience,
who
joins
talking
and
doing
commons
discord
now
first,
but
he
probably
you
know,
stumbled
through
some
things
at
that
ran
I
mean,
if
you
know,
if
people
aren't
invited,
guided
but
actually
wants
to
figure
things
out,
it
is
actually
helpful
to
see
look.
This
is
a
token
engineering
game.
This
is
the
metagame
game.
A
This
is
the
motion
tower
game
right
in
a
sense
like
how
do
I
get
along
here
and
what
are
the
things
that
I
can
do
and
who
are
my
players
what's
next
for
me,
I
I'm
just
vaguely
interested
in
this,
so
I
think
number
one
is
really
getting
people
to
get
to
know
their
surroundings
whilst
having
fun.
A
However,
I
agree,
of
course,
with
durga
does
like
if
one
guy
is
coming
up
with
a
perfectly
game,
gamified
system
and
he's
the
only
one
who
designed
it
right
to
what
purpose
whatsoever,
it
can
go
as
wrong
as
yeah
as
judah
said.
So
the
question
is
really
is
it?
Is
it
going
to
be
helpful.
A
But
the
thing
is
because
yeah
but
token
engineering
is,
I
know,
but
token
engineering
is
gamifying
things
you
know,
even
if
you
talk
say
we're
designing
incentive
mechanisms.
What
is
that
you're
incentivizing,
for
example,
to
create
a
library?
Well,
that's
a
kind
of
a
game
that
we're
coming
up
with
and
so
on,
right,
so
yeah,
basically
and
those
profiles,
meta
game
is
obviously
in
in
this
game
meme.
So
it
may
be
a
style
thing,
but
I
don't
think
we
should.
A
You
know
we
shouldn't
go
too
much
into
those
details
in
a
sense,
I
think
for
our
group-
and
I
think
each
group
needs
to
come
to
their
terms
and
then
connect
with
other
groups
and
figure
out
common
terms
and
not
common
terms
and
that's
how
collaboration
and
so
on
can
grow
that
that
would
be
something
that
I
you
know
wished
for
for
us,
because
otherwise
you
know
well
we're
gonna
just
get
stuck
in
in
some
dilemmas
all
the
time,
because
none
of
this
is
perfect.
A
B
D
D
Okay,
thank
you.
So
my
last
idea
was
that,
like
it's
again
ripped
off
from
bitcoin
like
I,
we
will
have
we
should
have
like,
or
we
may
have
like
some
sort
of
event
series
for
like
library
so
like
they
have
this
thing.
G
C
D
I
talked
with
manu
about
books
like
we
talked
about
at
the
beginning
of
my
entry,
so
it
it
threw
my
attention
a
lot
and
it
was
very
fun,
so
I
thought
people
like
me
will
like
benefit
from
it.
For
example,
we
we
always
like
talk
about
omega
group,
but
maybe
we
can
sort
of
transfer
some
of
our
discussion
to
library
talk
some
sort
of
events
or
podcast
series,
or
we
can
like
create
a
book
club,
for
example.
D
B
Can
I
bring,
can
I
bring
that
up?
It
seems
to
me
that
our
group
is
broad-minded
enough
to
include
a
lot
of
different
things
like,
for
example,
I
know
with
seb,
nem
and
manu.
I've
talked
about
deep
spiritual
things
and
it
isn't
it
isn't.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
incredibly
obvious
to
everyone
how
those
things
actually
connect
into
crypto,
so
it
may
be
that
we'd
want
to
have
like
episodes
of
the
podcast.
B
That
say
how
is
it
that
that
different
parts
of
the
crypto
economic
flower
work
or,
for
example,
if
you
look
at
the
cryptoeconomic
flower
for
me,
the
things
that
are
important
are
all
the
cool
colors
right,
all
the
purple,
the
the
blue,
the
green
and
the
light
green.
All
of
that
is
what
I'm
interested
the
rest
of
it.
I
I
could
really
you
know,
oh
sorry,
and
maybe
operations
and
management
science,
but
pretty
much
that
whole
bottom
half
is
my.
B
The
left
side
is
my
interest
right,
so
I
have
skills
in
the
other
thing,
but
I'm
not
interested
in
that
in
this
situation.
So
it's
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
both
break
those
up
and
how
we
combine
them
and
it
might
be
an
interesting
discussion.
A
Cool,
what
would
we
need
matt?
What
do
you
think
like
a
scheduled
and
people
who
actually
propose
like
durgada
said
I
would
love
to
do
such
a
topic
and
they
also,
you
know,
raise
their
hand
and
say
I'll
be
there,
but
then
we
need
people
who
coordinate,
etc,
but
that
that's
just
perfect
and
it's
exactly
what's
you
know
what
should
come
out
of
it's
been
said.
You
know
this
working
group.
Oh,
my
omega
has
two
initiatives
right.
A
One
of
them
is
tea
consultants,
and
actually
you
know
there
should
be
or
there
will
be
funds
for
it
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
should
really
self-organize
and
and
perfect.
So
at
least
I'm
all
game,
and
then
we
have
already
you
know
together
is
already
proposing
with
respect
to
books
or
book
discussions.
A
F
I
would,
I
would
suggest,
a
format
that
that
incorporates
some
repetition
into
the
process
and
not
just
like
someone
presents
and-
and
someone
presents
another
people
here
and
then
they're
taking
notes
and
they're
not
paying
attention
and
by
like
48
hours
later
like
they.
They
won't
even
remember
and-
and
everyone
at
the
moment,
thought
that
it
was
very
valuable
and
everyone
enjoyed
it
etc.
B
The
way
we
did
this
in
the
nonviolent
communication
group,
so
we'd
say
you'd
have
to
read
the
books.
That
was
your
entry
sort
of
thing
and
then
what
we
did
was
we
made
sure
we
had
a
leader
full
group
so
that
you
would
be
expected
to.
We
would
go
over
a
chapter
per
week,
but
it
was
also
not
just
a
chapter
per
week.
B
It
was
a
chapter
per
week
led
by
a
different
person,
so
you'd
get
a
different
perspective
on
what
that
was,
and
so
maybe
what
we
can
do
in
this
initial
thing
is
just
to
say:
let's
all
agree
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
certain
thing
and
then,
let's
all,
maybe
break
it
up
into
okay.
So
we've
got
let's
say
five
of
us
here:
we're
going
to
have
our
five
different
perspectives
on
that
thing
or
whatever
you
know
what
I
mean,
and
then
we
all
bring.
B
You
know
our
resources
and
stuff
to
that,
and
that
might
be
an
interesting
thing
to
then
record
as
an
intro
to
the
topic
or
and
then
the
more
people
that
come,
then
maybe
the
more
leaderful
that
can
become.
I
don't
know
if
you
think
that's
a
good
idea,
but
that
was
something
I
think
worked
well
in
nvc.
A
And
just
just
to
clarify
manu:
did
you
mean
that,
like
it
should
rotate,
every
participant
actually
should
prepare
us
something
or
how
did
you
meet
the
engagement.
F
Yes,
but
it's
more
open-ended
in
that,
I
think
we
we
ought
to
steer
away
from
the
usual.
You
know
like
just
exposition,
and
then
you
know
the
usual
like
university
or
or
predict
the
usual
technology
and
and
actually
look
into
okay.
How
is
it
we
learn,
and
how
is
it
that
we
acquire
information
and
preserve
information?
Is
it
through
repetition,
through
discussions
through
essays
to
ques,
actually
look
at
how
we
and
incorporate
that
into
our
own
library?
F
I
have
some
understanding
and
of
how
that
would
be,
but
I'm
by
no
means
an
expert
like
I'd
I'd
love
to
do
the
research,
but
I'm
just
saying
like
actually
incorporate
that
into
the
actual
structure
of
of
how
it's,
maybe
if
it's
pull-ups,
I
like
what
what
is
saying
with
the
the
chapter
by
chapter,
I
definitely
thought
that
for
other
book
clubs
as
well,
I
think
that's
like
a
standard
that
that's
being
time
tested
is.
Is
that
enough,
like
how
do
we
augment
that
etc?
A
B
B
Well,
I
was
just
you
know
the
the
the
thing
that
I
was
talking
about
earlier
in
terms
of
you
know
the
graphic
that
I
was
relating
to
is
you
know,
I
think
we're
going
to
start
at
a
certain
point.
All
right,
there's
like
five
of
us
here
and
we've
got
a
curated
amount
of
materials.
Right
manu
has
a
certain
expertise
in
decision
science
and
other
things,
I'd
love
to
hear
what
he
has
curated
about
that
and
I'd
love
to
hear
how
he
moderates.
B
F
F
B
Is
for
me
the
the
process
by
which
that
can
come.
A
So,
basically,
what
I'm
hearing
is
or
what
I'm
hearing
and
adding
most
likely
is,
so
we
have
to
script
economics
flower
instead
of
you
know
just
going
into
one
book
we
go
into.
You
know
one
curator's
perspective
and
that
just
you
know
most
likely
one
and
more
pet,
more
than
one
petal,
but
also
we
could
do
it
like.
You
know
how
they
like
to
roll
in
a
sense,
say:
okay,
this
is
the
top
five
and
I'd
like
to
host.
A
You
know
three
four
or
five
sessions,
how
many
and
basically,
but
then
also,
I
have
the
the
autonomy
to
actually
not
just
autonomy,
but
also
the
the
ask
from
the
t
consultants
initiative
to
form
it
in
a
way
and
also
our
support
to
bring
it
in
a
way
that
is
more
engaging
that
helps
the
people
to
actually
to
think
across
those
disciplines
that
the
curator
has
trespassed
is
what
we
say
sometimes
or
synthesized.
A
So
in
our
in
a
way
such
that
the
participants,
you
know,
look
into
at
the
very
least
that
they
come
with
questions
like
okay.
How
did
you
make
that
connection
from?
I
don't
know
ethics
to
decision
science
right
and
basically
they
know
your
favorites
and
can
actually
ask
us
questions
and
don't
just
listen,
think
hey.
A
This
was
great,
but
actually
when
they
leave
the
call,
they
have
no,
no,
no
ability
to
actually
build
on
on
this
initial
excitement
and
knowledge,
but
actually
have
them,
engage
a
with
the
created
library
and
with
the
contents
and
b
also
help
them
maybe
go
through
more
than
just
one
pedal
just
because
they
see
hey,
these
people
have
done
it
and
that,
basically,
somehow
so
excites
them
helps
them
to
engage
better
yeah.
B
B
So
that's
that's
your
curated
stuff
right
and
then,
when
you're,
like
I'm
putting
my
hand
up
to
say,
I'm
gonna,
moderate
anything
then
you're,
then
at
that
middle,
and
you
have
to
hold
that
educator
space
right
and
then
you
also
have
to
make
sure
you're
good
at
the
yes
and
thing,
because
I've
been
in
groups
where
the
moderators
closed
down
the
yes
and
and
they
were
like
you're
you're
supposed
to
only
be
interested
in
what
I
have
to
say
and
the
stuff
I've
curated
right,
which
is,
I
think
the
thing
that
you
were
trying
to
who
was
somebody
else
was
mentioning
that
they
didn't
want
that
to
happen,
right,
that's
and
and
and
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
talking
about
is
and-
and
I
think
a
part
of
this
thing
needs
to
be
that
we
need
to
explicitly
say
I
give
you
permission
to
say
yes
and
not
only
to
yourself
but
also
to
engage
with
this
group
and
do
all
these
things
and
just
to
recognize
that
this
is
the
internal
process
that
we
all
have
to
follow.
B
And
I
will
tell
you
that
I
would
not
be
in
this
community
talking
about
these
things
and
doing
all
this
if
it
wasn't
for
7m,
giving
me
some
explicit
permission
to
say
yes
and
within
the
context
of
the
token
engineering
commons.
That
would
not
have
happened,
and
it's
part
of
the
internal
process.
That.
B
Can
go
through,
but
also
we
as
a
community
can
go
through
just
you
know
up
a
further
number
of
steps.
So
I'm
saying
that
when
people
come
in
here
we
should
say
we
want
you
to
say
yes
and
the
reason
why
I
want
a
leaderful
group
is
to
give
you
the
yes
and
permission
within
yourself.
That's
my
opinion.
A
Totally
and
to
be
honest,
like
anyone
who,
who
adds
to
the
library
and
created
something
of
value
that
is
going
to
draw
interest
of
you
know
more
than
a
few
people
has
all
the
yes
ands
that
they
they
could
hope
for,
and
I'm
also
then
sure
that
they're
able
to
actually
host
a
session
about
those
topics.
A
What
I
just
want
to
add
is
you
know
when
we
have
that,
let's
just
be
super
happy
and
cheer
those
people
and
help
them
to
actually
host
that
session
and
help
the
participants
to
actually
take
something
out
of
it
so
totally
with
you,
but
we
don't
have
to
first
come
up
with
the
protocol.
How
to
do
it?
I
think
it's
almost.
A
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
gamified,
but
that
one
thing
leads
to
the
other
like
and
number.
One
thing
is:
how
are
we
going
to
create?
Get
those
people
get
their
curations
and
then
already
the
process
start
like
how
are
we
going
to
say
improve
the
quality
of
the
initial
creations
right
without
stepping
on
toes
etc?
So.
A
And
also
incentivize
that
the
beautiful
structure
that
smarts
now
started
doesn't
stay
just
empty,
with
the
full
of
full
flow
of
tasks,
but
not
actually
being
being
added
to.
So
that's
basically
really.
What's
next
step
is
more
my
concern
than
actually
us
the
po
probably,
is
that
us
not
being
able
to
hold
and
enable
those
sessions.
So
I
think
that's
it's
getting
there
and
also
it's
great
to
see
that
there
are
other
libraries.
A
A
Example,
git
coin
is
definitely
one.
It
seems
right.
D
B
D
To
justify
what
how
we
do,
what
we
do
and
the
money
we
need.
So
if
you
agree,
let's
open
it,
I
we
had
tasks
section
in
this
notion.
If
it's
okay,
I
can
share,
we
will
let's
decide
like
the
tasks
we
initially
wanted
to
do
so
people
who
like
to
contribute
just
assign
themselves-
and
let's
just
like
give
it
a
kick
start.
I
think,
like
we
had
very
great
ideas,
but
I
think
initial
start
will
like
make
it
faster
to
implement
those
other.
D
D
How
to
is
it
possible
or
not
if
it
is
not
possible
what
we
can
do
or
we
will
cope
with
reward
reward
people
like
how
to
be.
How
do
we
give
the
bounties
to
people
like
you
said
it
worked
with
notion,
so
it's
good
so
so
we
will
talk
about
like.
Maybe
we
can
arrange
it
like
separate
session
about
just
one
reputation
point:
how
do
we
want
to
allocate.
A
You
should
definitely
have
a
have
a
have
one
also
for
updating
the
the
token
engineering
commons
post
to
it.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
work
like
with
a
with
a
longer
working
group?
No
with
a
longer,
how
do
you
call
it
hack
session
work
for
you,
or
do
you
rather
like
to
work
as
synchronously
and
then
and
then
we
connect
again
or
shall
we
have
a?
I
don't
know
one
and
a
half
to
our
session,
where
we
really.
A
A
I
could
even
see,
especially
with
all
the
events
book
club,
linking
to
other
libraries
implementing
my
meta
for
participants
getting
people
to
use.
It
then
the
whole
incentive
mechanism.
How
do
we
link
it
up?
How
do
we
write
the
funding
proposal,
etc?
So
I
think
I
can
imagine
that
the
initiative
will
need
its
own
yeah
working
sessions
right.
D
A
Well,
it's
super
hard
to
you
know.
A
He,
I
would
say
if
we,
you
know,
worked
full-time
on
it.
I'd
say
it'd
be
done
in
in
three
weeks
max.
You
know
not
not
with
technical
integration,
but
with
everything
respect
that
we
know
what
to
do
and
whatever
is
not
technical
or
is
off
the
shelf.
We
could
implement
three
three
weeks
top,
but
without
knowing
how
much
people
can
invest
and
how
many
people
will
be
actually
contributing
that
becomes.
F
How
does
this
tie
into
this,
though?
The
mega's
working
group
funding
proposal,
if
is
that
something
you're
working
on.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
had
a
short
very
short
sync
with
tamara,
thankfully,
and
basically
roughly
it's
also
what
I
said
like
it
depends,
I
guess,
with
the
whole
and
the
pace
that
we
had
until
now.
I
I
estimated
about
46
months
to
get
those
initiatives
so
far
off
the
ground
that
you
know
there
are
core
contributors.
A
People
take
care
of
what
we
started
and
it's
already
useful
so
much
that
people
actually
keep
continue
caring.
That
was
what
I
anticipated,
and
I
think
I
also
said
very
roughly,
like
15k,
for
each
initiative,
whereas
with
the
token
engineering
ethics
initiative
and
the
facilitators
etc,
I
think
that's
really
just
for
getting
it
off
the
ground
and
once
those
sessions
are
established
and
people
see
the
value,
especially,
you
know
this
coaching
value
that
people
like
durga,
das,
etc
provide,
which
is
immensely
helpful.
A
That
could
you
know,
follow
on
on
its
own
and
at
the
same
time
I
think
during
that
time
we
will
see
like
what
of
it
is
really
currently
needed.
Right,
I
mean
for
token
and
during
comments.
T
es6
is
very
much
needed,
but
in
the
beginning
it
might
be
just
that
we
have
these
principles
and
that
they
are
known
and
it's
just
the
initial
foothold.
But
it
could
be
that
the
you
know
I
don't
know
whatever.
A
The
crypto
market
is
going
through,
you
know
could
be
that
tea
ethics
becomes
so
sexy
that
everyone
wants
to.
You
know,
get
get
support
or
get
get
a
players
get
a
foothold.
A
How
to
think
about
those
dilemmas
in
their
networks,
or
it
could
be
that
you
know
people
copy
paste.
The
t
ethics
principles
like
code
of
contact,
a
code
of
conduct
right-
it's
always
copy-pasted
and
put
somewhere,
but
that's
that
you
know
that
it
could
be
both.
But
I
would
say
in
46
months
we
definitely
have
created
valuable
content.
A
We
have
a
group
here
that
is,
you
know,
supporting
each
other
in
those
developmental
areas,
as
well
as
at
the
edge
and
even
spiritual
areas,
and
I
think
for
this
group
it
is
already
very
valuable.
Look
at
that.
Sorry
took
a
bit
longer.
B
I
was
just
wondering
see
my
brain
goes
to
there's
some
things
that
we're
doing
as
a
group
right
in
terms
of
like
we're,
trying
to
produce
a
thing
so
we're
trying
to
produce
this
consilience
thing
and
immediately
my
mind
goes
to
okay.
What
are
the
needs
of
it?
But
then
I'm
also
thinking
about
things
in
terms
of
like
what
is
the
engine
right.
So
I
have
this
idea
in
my
head
about
an
engine.
So
for
me
I
mean
the
way
I'm
motivated.
B
F
B
Is
there
some
way
that
we
could
try
to
figure
out
what
that
engine
could
be
for
us
in
terms
of
like
so
so
speaking,
for
myself
like
having
an
office
hours
where
people
can
drop
in
and
go,
you
you've
probably
seen
me
in
something
you
might.
You
know
like.
I
know
mauna
and
I
you
know
he
started
coming
to
me
to
be.
F
B
And
and
so
like,
could
it
be
that
there
could
be
like
I
mean
like
there's
no
way,
I'm
gonna
know
a
damn
thing
about
whatever
griff
knows.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying,
but
I
also
might
be
able
to
contribute
to
what
griff
and
libby
are
talking
about,
and
I
would
like
to
sort
of
make
myself
available
to
that
in
a
way
that,
like
I,
just
dropped
into
all
these
groups,
but
I
don't
have
I'm
not
like
griff,
where
I'm
in
every
damn
group
and
I'm
just
not
I'm.
B
Have
a
degree
in
blockchain,
I
don't
have
all
that
stuff,
but
I
think
that
I'm
still
providing
value.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
figure
out
not
only
an
engine
for
me,
but
also
something
that
could
indicate
to
the
larger
group
that
there
are
people
here
as
resources
that
then
hopefully,
if
they
feel
like
they
have
a
place,
they
can
go
to
get
questions
asked
around
this
stuff.
Then
then
this
could
work.
So
I
one
of
the
things
I've
started.
B
Just
individually
going
to
people
and
saying
you
know
I'm
here
for
you,
I
hear
that
you're
having
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time.
I
know
you
might
have
your
own
support
network,
but
I'm
here-
and
this
is
actually
a
thing-
that
I'm
starting
to
do
with
gravity
people
and
thinking
that
maybe
that's
the
thing
that
I
should
do
so
I
just
wonder
so.
That's
a
question
you
know.
B
Maybe
that
could
be
then
an
engine
that
would
create
some
of
the
content
for
consilience,
because
I
can
come
back
to
you
guys
and
say
I'm
hearing
this
stuff.
Maybe
we
could
engage
and
then
get
that
stuff
down
and
put
in.
I
don't
know.
I'm.
A
Obviously
it
would
be
fantastic
if
those
facilitators
also
say
and
look
I
am
available,
but
again
it
should
be
open
and
if
you
facilitate
the
offer
is
that
that
should
be
also,
you
know
valued,
but
it
should
not
be
a
necessity
that
you
know
you
have
to
be
available
and
have
office
hours.
A
Super
thankful
that
these
sessions
will
come
about
and
you'll
be
hosting
them,
etc,
and
that
is
the
area
where
I
would
say,
office
hours
make
or
whatever
you
offer
being
available
and
thinking
about
how
to
make
that
visible.
We
could
look
into
those
my
meta
profiles,
like
imagine
you
have
a
mymeta
profile.
It
says
you're
active
in
working
group
omega.
A
B
B
B
B
C
A
Maybe
we
have
that
look.
Look.
We
have
that
right.
So
we
have
manu
here
he
brought
in
capabilities
approach.
We
thought
it's
a
great
way
to
think
you
know
we
have.
I.
B
A
You
know
we
have
these
right
and
then
well
it's
not
it's
about
always.
You
know
we
have
to
kind
of
stay
focused
on
t
ethics.
Why
do
we
look
into
those
decision
making
frameworks
because
those
seem
to
be
actually
helpful
to
make
decisions
in
not
simple
situations,
not
one-dimensional
situations,
or
they
help
us
to
actually
open
our
mind
and
see
that
there
are
more
than
one
worldview
in
which
something
could
be
both
true
and
false
at
the
same
time,
in
the
protocol
that
I'm
currently
designing
mind
blown
so
these
sessions
right?
A
These
are
you
know
not
because
you're
kick
ass
decision
make,
I
don't
know
certified
decision
making.
A
Coaches
or
whatever,
but
we
are
the
ones
you
know,
who've
been
burnt
and
resurrected
through
many
token
projects
who
you
know,
got
their
bloody
noses
and
who
figured
out
ways
and
so
on,
so
that
that's
what
how
you
know
we're
offering,
for
example,
those
worldviews
games.
A
The
whole
mental
models
thing
that
that
you
have
is
literally,
you
are
the
collector
of
mental
models,
and
we
here
actually
say
this
is
damn
valuable
to
actually
have
someone
like
this
to
give
us
a
tour
of
decision
making
frameworks.
Actually
who
speaks
token
engineering
jargon?
Even
if
he's
not.
You
know,
coming
from
a
token
engineering
engineering,
heavy
site,
you're
able
to
actually
grasp
the
problem
of
these
networks,
and
you
know
about
situations
that
have
come
up,
etc.
A
So
these
facilitators,
we
offer
those
sessions
in
token
engineering,
ethics
initiatives
right
and
we
are
also
I
won't
be,
but
if
those
facilitators
in
addition
offer
an
additional
hour
where
someone
can
drop
in
and
say,
hey,
I
want
to
you
know,
I
tried
to
apply
this,
but
I
got
stuck
or
you
know,
I
pitched
it
to
my
network
and
they
love
it.
Can
you
come
and
actually
you
know
help
us
to
make
use
of
this
framework
in
our
specific
case
and
and
situation,
etc?
A
So
totally
with
you,
but
I
would
say
it's
definitely.
You
know
the
the
token
engineering
ethics
initiative
so.
B
F
B
That
this
and
I
just
took
a
screenshot
of
it,
so
I
got
it
never
mind.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
that.
B
Radical
inclusion
includes,
and
then
next
to
that
would
be
the
intro
to
to
mental
models.
Next,
to
that
would
be
worldviews
and
then
below
that
would
be
capability,
so
I
can
see
a
roughly
cascading
whole.
You
know
like
like
circles
within
circles,
with
respect
to
that
mono.
Do
you
see.
C
F
B
Would
be
a
key
distinction.
A
A
A
B
A
Gonna,
do
that
go
for
it.
I
I'd
go
for
it.
You
know
me
I'd
go
for
it,
but
I
think
really
people
need
footholds
and
then
you
know
once
they've
been
through
this
one
and
they
didn't
like
it,
but
they
went
into
the
decision
making
frameworks
and
they
said
oh
kenneth,
and
that
makes
sense
you
know
that's
not
so
vuvu
but
then
from
there.
So
you
know
it's
a.
How
do
you
call
it
think
different
people
will
have
different
footholds.
B
There's
30
different
approaches
to
a
problem
here
just
in
these
cards
in
in
in
liberating
structures,
right
and
so
having
having
people
who
you
know,
maybe
as
a
as
a
compliment
to
the
things
that
manu
is
talking
about.
We
could
talk
about
these
and
he
and
I
could
maybe
go
over
that
or
that
could
be
a
working
group
or
a
book
club
type
of
activity
where
we
can
just
review
the
liberating
structures
and
and
propagate.
B
B
A
A
B
A
A
Yeah
got
it
yeah.
I
think
the
same
thing
goes
for
token,
entering
ethics
initiatives
like
those
people
who
raised
up
their
hands
and
said,
okay,
you
know
we
can
make
something
out
of
this,
and
we
want
to
you
know
this
is
the
dynamo
would
be
actually
offering
those
sessions
or
the
engine
would
be
an
actual
people.
A
It's
super
helpful,
thank
you
and
then
even
you
know
pulling
you
forward.
I
apologize.
F
B
Time,
knowing
sometimes.
A
That's
the
problem,
that's
the
that's
the
problem.
I
mean
you
know
with
the
token
entering
consistency,
if
marge,
wouldn't
have
raised
its
hand
and
and
would
have
you
know,
just
started
actually
putting
it
into
structure.
A
F
D
A
B
F
Like
you
have
well,
I
mean
the
I
think
to
like
incorporate
discovery
that
that
that's
like
a
whole.
That's
like
a
proposal
on
itself.
I
think
for
conciliants.
I
can
focus
on
my
art
of
expertise,
which
is
around
like
decision
making
and
the
leadership
behind
it.
How
how
how
how
power
creates
ethical
dilemmas,
the
cognitive
biases
meta
thinking,
you
know,
I
really
hate
that
facebook
renamed
to
meta,
because
that's
that
prefix
is
just.
F
F
Yeah
they
cloned
us,
actually
so
you
mark
and
and
on
record
yeah
on
record
yeah
we're
gonna
keep
using
the
meta
prefix,
but
but
yeah
the
the
meta
concept.
I
also
think
like
dude
with
all
the
diagrams
is
what
we're
trying
to
get
at.
You
know
it
like
fights
to
create
symbols
around
maneuvering,
the
around
the
the
labyrinth
of
systems
that
we
created,
but
but
yeah
we're
probably.
A
One
second
one:
second
perfect:
there
is
just
one
just
one
principle,
please
you
know
at
least
in
the
beginning.
Please
adhere
to
that.
It's
the
crypto
economics
flower,
like
what
I
hear
you
say
is.
Do
you
want
to
create
content
for
the
library,
but
for
those
domains
that
you
just
said.
F
Yes,
yes,
like
like
I
do.
I
do
honestly
yes
around
around
that
that
area
of
like
decision
making
the
psychology
of
leadership
meta
thinking
and
how
that
I
mean,
of
course,
how
that
relates
to
ethics
and,
like
you
said
to
the
to
the
petal
of
the
of
the
flower
that
deals
with
with
moral
philosophy,
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
that's
the
only
thing
I
I
just
you
know
that
we
in
that
we
have
that
structure
in
the
beginning,
of
course
it
shall
evolve,
etc.
But
if
we
start
with
one
structure
that
you
know,
it
is
agreeable
that
that's
the
only
literally
into
only
how
to
create.
A
Beautiful
because
prompt-
that's
that's
that's
and
other
than
that
perfect.
B
B
Appreciate
you
know
that
so
if,
if
manu
and
I
are
going
to
hack
on
something
we'll
be
like
okay,
so
I
mean
I've
already
talked
about
how
I
like
the
cool
color
thing.
But
it's
also
true
that
it's
probably
true
that
we
can
find
analogs
to
how
the
how
different
parts
of
the
cryptoeconomics
flower
relate
to
each
other
right
in
in
those
relationships.
Then
we
can.
We
can
pull
apart
some
of
the
stuff
that
mono
and
I
are
interested
in
and
and
connected.
A
Perfect,
and
also
like
what
you
share,
I
don't
know
your
your
best
pick.
Basically
right
right,
I
know
it's
going
to
be
tough,
but
you
know
that's
the
game
and
if
you
have
more
than
five,
don't
throw
it
away,
of
course,
just
put
it
there,
but
you
know
really
just
what's
your
top
five
in
a
sense
as
not
to
overwhelm
people
in
a
sense
to
say:
okay,
those
people,
you
know
they
have
these
30
sources
and
even
more
growing,
but
they
say
this
is
the
top
five.
A
They
would
love
me
to
look
into
first
because
they
say
this
is
how
I'm
going
to
get
into
that
area.
This
is
going
to
help
me
to
make
the
bridge
from
how
does
all
of
this
craziness
relate
to
decision
making
or
if
I
have,
if
I'm
finally
grasping
that,
actually
incentive
mechanism,
design
and
token
entering
is
all
about
decision
making.
A
A
You
know
that
that's
basically
the
the
basic
the
only
basically
like
just
keep
in
mind.
Who
is
it
for
right
and
does
it
really
help
them
to
grasp
and
not
to
draw
in
knowledge
right.
F
The
the
article
that
we're
working
on,
I
also
think
that
that's
because
I
think
in
leadership,
there's
self
leadership,
obviously,
which
could
be
like
thought
up
as
micro
and
there's
meso,
which
can
be
like
thous,
there's
macro,
which
is
like
dial
to
dao.
F
You
know
like
like
sort
of
like
the
ecosystem
and
how,
how
we're
collectively
deciding
and-
and
even
you
know,
using
snapshot-
that's
sort
of
like
our
ledger
of
like
collective
decision
making
as
web
3
tally
and
whatnot,
but
the
the
article
or
the
series
of
articles
that
we've
been
working
on
or
or
actually
the
resources.
F
Article
on
on
token
engineering
as
a
social
movement-
that's
very
interesting
because
it
is
a
type
of
collective
leadership
that
someone
has
to
like
like
frame.
If
we
don't,
we
allow
it
to
implicitly
operate
from
the
same
understandings
of
capitalism
and
colonialism
that
we've
seen
before
so.
But
whereas,
if
we
say
hey
culturally,
we
want
to
proceed
ethically
in
this
direction
and
we
don't.
We
understand
the
biases
that
we
were
part
of
before
and
now
we're
trying
to
amend
them.
And
this
is
how
we're
moving
forward
et
cetera.
B
B
See-
and
I
think
part
of
the
reason
why
I'm
all
the
time
talking
about
the
largest
possible
context
is
not
because
I
can't
reduce
things
down
to
easily
understandable
chunks.
It's
I
I
guess
it's
my
fundamental
point
that
decontextualization
works
for
the
oppressor
for
the
centralizer
for
the
colonizer.
For
the
do
you
see
what
I'm
saying?
That
is
the
primary
mechanism
by
which
all
of
this
happens
so
the
moment
I
go
to
move
from
the
complex
to
the
complicated
like
in
connection.
I've
got
two
choices.
F
F
B
F
A
A
E
Technically,
I'm
not
hearing
murders.
I
don't
know
because
I'm
not
only
here
for
motion,
though
like
that's
how
and
I
got
in
contact,
I'm
kind
of
working
in
brussels
on
a
little
project
called
les
gauche,
which
thinks
a
lot
about
commenting.
So
not
I'm
not
a
coder,
I'm
not
a
person
who
actually
knows
how
to
make
a
computer
do
things
besides,
like
a
gui
or
whatever.
F
I
think
all
of
us
all
of
us-
well
maybe
except
feminism,
but
most
of
us
are,
are
in
that
context
of
being
more
qualitative,
so
you
you'll
fit
right
in
it's
just
that.
I
think
maybe
we're
we're
relying
on
a
lot
of
previous
information
gathered
from
sessions
that
you
were
not
a
part
of,
but
you
you
you'll,
get
a
hold
of
it.
There's
there's,
certainly
not
not
a
learning
curve
as
steep
as
labs
or
common
swarm
or
other
more
technical
working
groups.
E
C
E
And
so
yeah,
I'm
just
running
on
a
very
simple
format,
which
is
basically
saying
I'm
trying
to
combine
mint
base
kind
of
with
open
collective
and
connecting
it
to
astro
dao
and
trying
to
connect
it
with
the
kind
of
payroll
organization.
So
what
I'm
basically
trying
to
do
is
to
create
some
kind
of
ecosystem
where
artists
can
be
employed
and
somehow
also
be
introduced
to
some
kind
of
web
3
technology
by
creating
an
economy
of
solidarity.
E
It's
on
a
very,
very
low
key
right.
Now,
it's
just
one
little
space
in
brussels
and
like
a
very
precarious
level,
that's
a
bit
like
the
direction
I'm
taking.
So
I
don't
know
yet
in
how
or
what
I
can
contribute,
but
there's
like
other
organizations
that
might
be
interesting
for
specifically
blockchain,
which
is
like
the
robin
hood
cooperative
or
the
economic
space
agency,
they're
also
kind
of
busy.
Now
with
cooperatives
and
comments
on
the
common
stack
yeah
like
yeah,
exactly
like
I
used
to
like,
I
was.
B
E
Them
but
like
they're
kind
of
still
doing
stuff
so
yeah,
the
other
thing
is
yeah
like
what
I'm
personally
always
finding
quite
difficult,
is
to
understand
how
to
make
it
interesting
for
like
non-technical
persons.
So
if
it
becomes
about
curatorship
like
I
also
have
a
website
called
transdisciplinary.art,
where
I
kind
of
copy
left
it
three
years.
A
E
E
The
moment
this
will
become
part
of
a
kind
of
economy
that
generates
value.
Besides,
like
kind
of
private
use
of
reason
between
persons,
then
it
would
become
a
big
question
for
me
ethically,
because
then
I
could
not
really
put
that
out
there
so
yeah.
These
are
like
questions
that
I'm
having
personally
like
how
to.
B
E
A
B
A
Share
this
with
you
steph,
but
it
sounded
like
you,
do,
have
some
overlap
and
also
the
question
of
how
do
we
make
all
of
this
accessible
to
non-taxes
x
exactly
like,
and
then
also
all
of
the
ethical
concerns
you
know
when
we
do
things
when
we
decide
about
who
creates
who
puts
knowledge
together,
etc.
These
are
things
we've
been
kind
of
through
it's
not
and
we're
now,
starting
to
actually
put
things
together.
A
So
it's
actually
great
to
have
you
know
people
like
you
on
board
and
actually
challenge
again
or
ask
you
know.
Why
is
that?
Why
have
you
left
this
out,
so
it
did
resonate
and
it
would
help.
I
think
if
you
just
want
to
go
over
and
just
share
your
perspective,
what
came
to
your
mind?
It
might
help
us
to
actually
not
forget
anything
when
we
put
this
structure
and
content
and
tasks
together.
A
And
after
the
this
meeting
I
also
always
try
to
summarize
at
the
very
least
the
next
point
that
that
I
see
and
other
than
that.
I
I
think
now
this
weekend.
A
So
if
it's
okay
with
people
that
I
put
what
we
didn't
go
through
today
to
next
week-
and
of
course,
unless
there
is,
you
know
some
things
that
need
to
be
provided
for
the
token
engineering
consilience
initiative,
we
can
also
take
that
on
the
agenda
next
time
and
other
than
that,
let's
just
see
to
it
that
we
don't
lose
steph
and
actually
he
gets
a
foothold
as
well
with,
because
it
seemed
that
that
that
there
is
some
definite
resonance
or
overlap,
but
also
the
perfect
big
question
marks
that
are
our
engine.
A
We
want
to
help,
you
know,
get
them
into
exclamation
marks
and
and
contributions.